theres no need to waste more tax money we has a new u.s.a made vehicle Oshkosh M-ATV , if you want to help the usa build factories to build t.v and p.c and all types of goodies to sell to americans and the world,like we use to! and stop buying everthing from china wake the f---- up
For all those military guys out there. wouldent you think an enclosed turrent would be better than an open top one?? With the IEDs going off right next to the vehical i would feel vunerable as a gunner.
Well theres a couple of advantages and disadvantages to each setup. Open turret makes the soldier whos gunning more vulnerable and allows a week spot on the vehicle. But it also allows a set of ears outside the vehicle which would be usefull when your just sitting out at night on an observation post/listening post. A closed turret would be ideal for maximum protection. Also close turrets usually have the advantage of advance optics and sighting system but those can be very costly and unreliable.
The extent of the corruption probe into BAE Systems became clearer yesterday as the government confirmed the defence giant's activities are being investigated in six countries...
People since when does looks matter? If anything the enemy will laugh too and give our boys the upper hand. If it saves your fucking life and the lives of your men, who the fuck cares!!!
Looks like some BAE employee has a 1st grader and their classroom-doodle some how was taken to work by Mommy or Daddy and the drawing made it to the table, since they had on other ideas.
Seriously, the vehicle looks like a Dodge, Mitsubishi Evolution and an F-117A crashed together - Might work for Hollywood, doesn't work for our troops. ( I can still hear Benny-Hill in the back ground )
exactly. .every Marine and soldier that have seen and sat in this vehicle love it. . and yes, even the looks. "very aggressive looking". . "rather be in this than a humvee for sure"
doesn't matter if Cheetah is available today..it won't be around "tomorrow" once BAE takes the contract. Eventually, Force Protection and everyone else will be building BAE JLTVs.
BAE is already supplying MRAPs. . .BAE turned out the MRAP in 90 days which would've originally taken 3-5 years to design.. .and beat out all the other competitors. .not bribery, it's because BAE's MRAP survived the mine blast testing while competitors vehicles were obliterated. BAE's JLTV would be out sooner if MRAP wasn't a DX rated project. All the manpower on JLTV had to be pulled off and onto MRAP.
BAE's vehicle doesn't come close to providing the room needed in the JLTV. It looks like they just threw a body on a dune buggy. No way this will go anywhere. Crappy design by an unproven player in mine resistant capability.
room for what? crew of 7? have you geared up in body armor and sat in the vehicle? BAE's JLTV already meets ALL requirements. .you can't say much for FRPT, OshKosh, Lockheed, Northrop, etc. ..show me another JLTV competitor that meets ALL requirements like BAE...you can't.
"..the survivability is what it needs to be to meet the requirement"?
Negative.... The survivability has to surpass the requirement.
It looks pretty low to the ground for my taste.... eithir way.... are we going to wait 2 years to field this while our Joes need a Humvee Replacement now!?
But can the soldiers wait 2 years for a vehicle that is needed today?
Also, the vehicle looks to be reverse engineered from the Russian vehicle watch?v=EP7pOuJ16JQ&feature=related
500lb bomb 1 foot under the surface should be the standard testing.... anything less than that should be criminal. Can you tell what's the amount of explosives used to test this vehicle? 50lbs?
Man this thing is ugly...
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Giuelith 1 year ago
theres no need to waste more tax money we has a new u.s.a made vehicle Oshkosh M-ATV , if you want to help the usa build factories to build t.v and p.c and all types of goodies to sell to americans and the world,like we use to! and stop buying everthing from china wake the f---- up
Conservativepacheat 1 year ago
Looks good to me!!
For all those military guys out there. wouldent you think an enclosed turrent would be better than an open top one?? With the IEDs going off right next to the vehical i would feel vunerable as a gunner.
supremancy 3 years ago
Well theres a couple of advantages and disadvantages to each setup. Open turret makes the soldier whos gunning more vulnerable and allows a week spot on the vehicle. But it also allows a set of ears outside the vehicle which would be usefull when your just sitting out at night on an observation post/listening post. A closed turret would be ideal for maximum protection. Also close turrets usually have the advantage of advance optics and sighting system but those can be very costly and unreliable.
heavylifter315 2 years ago
looks just like futuristic vehicles in 80's movies.. judge dred balde runner no?
UseTheMan999 3 years ago
The extent of the corruption probe into BAE Systems became clearer yesterday as the government confirmed the defence giant's activities are being investigated in six countries...
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sapperzulu 3 years ago
DINGO2 its better
mz1409 3 years ago
People since when does looks matter? If anything the enemy will laugh too and give our boys the upper hand. If it saves your fucking life and the lives of your men, who the fuck cares!!!
Alloyaha 3 years ago
What the hell is this?
Where is the surfboard?
LMFAO
alphaco35 3 years ago
What a rediculas looking vehicle
Looks like some BAE employee has a 1st grader and their classroom-doodle some how was taken to work by Mommy or Daddy and the drawing made it to the table, since they had on other ideas.
Seriously, the vehicle looks like a Dodge, Mitsubishi Evolution and an F-117A crashed together - Might work for Hollywood, doesn't work for our troops. ( I can still hear Benny-Hill in the back ground )
jabtrade 3 years ago
Looks funny to you but the Marines and Army like this particular vehicle. It works for them and that is the only opinion that matters.
zilch77 3 years ago
exactly. .every Marine and soldier that have seen and sat in this vehicle love it. . and yes, even the looks. "very aggressive looking". . "rather be in this than a humvee for sure"
heckkoch9 3 years ago
"rather be in this than a humvee for sure"
Did you tell them that they have to wait until 2013 for that...
Meanwhile Force Protection's Cheetah is available TODAY!!!!!
sapperzulu 3 years ago
doesn't matter if Cheetah is available today..it won't be around "tomorrow" once BAE takes the contract. Eventually, Force Protection and everyone else will be building BAE JLTVs.
heckkoch9 3 years ago
2013.... too long to wait.... troops need MRAP's ASAP.... not 5 years from now
sapperzulu 3 years ago
BAE is already supplying MRAPs. . .BAE turned out the MRAP in 90 days which would've originally taken 3-5 years to design.. .and beat out all the other competitors. .not bribery, it's because BAE's MRAP survived the mine blast testing while competitors vehicles were obliterated. BAE's JLTV would be out sooner if MRAP wasn't a DX rated project. All the manpower on JLTV had to be pulled off and onto MRAP.
heckkoch9 3 years ago
MRAPS in Iraq are way to heavy and big to replace the Humvees.... that is what we are talking about here right? replacing the Humvee.
BAE is supplying MRAPS yes... did i say otherwise?
FRPT has 3,000 MRAPS in the Field.... how many does BAE have in the field?
2013.... too long to wait for a Humvee replacement.... troops need smaller MRAP's ASAP.... not 5 years from now
sapperzulu 3 years ago
BAE's vehicle doesn't come close to providing the room needed in the JLTV. It looks like they just threw a body on a dune buggy. No way this will go anywhere. Crappy design by an unproven player in mine resistant capability.
waveman69 3 years ago
room for what? crew of 7? have you geared up in body armor and sat in the vehicle? BAE's JLTV already meets ALL requirements. .you can't say much for FRPT, OshKosh, Lockheed, Northrop, etc. ..show me another JLTV competitor that meets ALL requirements like BAE...you can't.
heckkoch9 3 years ago
"..the survivability is what it needs to be to meet the requirement"?
Negative.... The survivability has to surpass the requirement.
It looks pretty low to the ground for my taste.... eithir way.... are we going to wait 2 years to field this while our Joes need a Humvee Replacement now!?
sapperzulu 3 years ago
The requirements for survivablity are very high for this program. Meeting it is quit a challenge.
The vehicle is actually high off the ground and exceeds the requirements for the Marine and Army to clear obstacles and mine blast.
This program has been in the works for a little awhile now.Two years is actually a very quick pace to get something fielded.
zilch77 3 years ago
But can the soldiers wait 2 years for a vehicle that is needed today?
Also, the vehicle looks to be reverse engineered from the Russian vehicle watch?v=EP7pOuJ16JQ&feature=related
500lb bomb 1 foot under the surface should be the standard testing.... anything less than that should be criminal. Can you tell what's the amount of explosives used to test this vehicle? 50lbs?
sapperzulu 3 years ago