Christopher Hitchens on the American Revolution

[mwillis1000]

LOL, America really isnt the best.

[AlexanderEBott]

Has Christopher Hitchens accepted the moral rightness in capatilism when he declares that the American Revolution was good because it established individual rights rather than group rights?

[RaySquirrel]

@AlexanderEBott I believe in an interview with Reason Magazine he commented that Marx admired America and the creative power of capitalism. So make of that what you will.

[AlexanderEBott]

@RaySquirrel I would assume he admired it so much as he desired to enslave the productive in America.

[agentssith]

@AlexanderEBott Not really. Modern Crapitalists are using state's (small s as in Alabama, ...) rights as a vehicle for state based Capitulism. I don't think given Hitch's background that he is the neo-con you might think he is in contemporary terms. I doubt he would have a problem with collectivism as a true macrocosmic expression of individualism. His belief in the principles of the Constitution mandates this in fact. How can you have self-governance without self control? Kaputilists possess Ǿ.

[AlexanderEBott]

@agentssith Businessmen are not necessarily capitalists.

"collectivism as a true macrocosmic expression of individualism", there is either individualism or collectivism, one is an ideological system of ideas expressing the individual as rightful, the other the collective

A constitution limiting the powers of the government (the collective) is a concrete example of individualism.

Imposing the collective's will on any individual negates self-governance/control. It ends individualism.

[agentssith]

@AlexanderEBott You aren't thinking correctly. The whole idea of self-governance whilst maintaining freedom MUST have an element of collectivism. The best way for self-governing collectivism to work is for it to be a macrocosmic version of individualist liberty possessing self-control and restraint. Self-control and freedom should be integral and inextricable from each in any self-governing system. Why we try to separate them and collectivize each as 'stand alones' is beyond me.

[howser12]

Please get well Mr. Hitchens, From: Your Christian Neighbor (John Burbank, Ca)

[nemirn]

Happy 4th, comrades.

Get well, Mr. Hitchens.