dwight howard is easily the most overated player in the nba im not saying he isnt a very good player but people give him to much praise the man is a terrible free throw shooter and doesnt have any where close to the same foot work and post game that bynum has bynum plays big dwight plays athletic if dwight truely wanted to be a power post player he would be unstoppable but he doesnt he plays athletic with his gay one spin move
Andrew isn't as dominant as Dwight, but when healthy, his length and post game can close the gap. I'm not saying Andrew is BETTER than or even close to Dwight. But there IS room for comparison.
Stephen A. is gay for Dwight if he can't realize that Skip's decision is reasonable.
You can't hack AB the same way you can hack D12 in late game situations.
Dwight howard is good but he struggles against real centers and bynum schooled him in da finals and howard struggled on perkins,rasheed wallace and smaller guys then him lol
This is the most ridiculous "debate" I have ever heard. It is not a debate it is two rants going back and forth. Andrew Bynum will never be Dwight Howard. He is frail and has no where near the athleticism as Dwight.
First of all, Skip Bayless doesn't respect Dwight Howard enough.
Secondly, main thing Skip said is "when Bynum is right", and honestly who knows how good bynum is then. That being said, Bynum does have a better offensive game than Howard.
Lastly, I wouldn't trade Gasol and Bynum for Dwight. That's way too much to give up.
andrew bynum is better than dwight howard of course when hes injured howard plays better so i dont see why people are comparing healthy howard to injured bynum when bynums physcially set injuries gone hes better than howard
bynum is on howards level now, as the 3rd option for the lakers he averages 17pts 12 boards 2blks per 34 mins, while howard is the no 1 option 20pts 15 boards 3 blks, i reckon if you byunum on the magic he would put up roughly the same numbers
bynum has a better offensive game then howard. howard is a great defender but bynum is good defender as well. if kobe stops shooting so much and give bynum more shots his numbers would be better then howards. bynum is avg 12 rbs howard 15 but bynum is playing with another 7ft in gasol who always grabbing 10rbs a game. if im the lakers i keep bynum and trade gasol for deron williams. btw bynum has 2 rings and held his own vs howard in the finals
dewight howard is a teeny tiny bit better than bynum on defense, on offense bynum is 3 football fields better thand howard so obviously bynum is better.
Stephen Smith didn't even play in the NBA. Both of them need to stop taking about any player in the NBA. Including LUKE WALTON and SCALIBRINE. These guys were never in the NBA. How can you talk smack and u never worked hard enough to play in the NBA.
I am 14. I am trying to make it to the NBA. One thing i don't like is people acting like they worked harder than these guys to question their abilities. It is stupid and pathetic to have all that mouth action and can't even play to that potential!
LeBron has a better chance of winning a title than Kobe in 2012, LeBron is the best, most complete player in the game today, PPG 29, RPG 8, APG 7, SPG 2, BPG 1, not a single other player in the game shas those stats, and those are very close to his career averages, and Dwight Howard is much better than Bynum, Howard has better athletics, defense, rebounding, shot blocking, his footwork isn't as center based, but obviously is a better scorer, stats prove that.
Pathetic discussion guys, compare all you want, but here's the real deal: no way can a man be the most valuable player if there is D. Wade in the same team. PERIOD. LeBron might have been MVP in Cavs for once, that's it, his second wasn't deserved, Kobe should have taken that, he led his team to 2 championships in a row and 3 Finlas in a row, LeBron just quit on his Cavs, grabs second MVP and leaves to the Heat, that is not MVP performance for sure.
@noopz0r what people are failing to realize is that just because wade and lebron are on a team together that doesnt automatically equate to success!! look at the knicks with melo, stoudemire and chandler...they absolutley fucking suck! it takes alot for 3 all-star players to be able to co-exist on 1 team..you need your 3 stars to be unselfish and be team 1st players,there has to be an even greater commitment to winning and you need them to play both sides of the court lol good luck with that!
@youz1uglybish You are definately made that thing with the Knicks 2 or 3 days ago, because we couldn't know how much they suck until then, I understand what you mean, but, D. Wade - second best player after Bryant, already a champion, the most athletic SG in the game today, you have to understand, Melo and Amare are stars, Wade is a super star of MVP level himself, Pippen wasn't MVP when Jordan played, do you see at least that?! LeBron is a great player, but is he the MVP?!
@youz1uglybish About the NY Knicks, lol, this is a shocker, they suck so much that it's not even funny, and about LeBron again, every time I or anyone else tries to be objective, there is someone telling: "a hater", I'm not an idiot, LeBron James is a legit super star, but what I think is that putting him to the same level as Kobe, Magic, MJ is disrespectful, cuz' they are true leaders and winners, LeBron is a great all-around player, BUT, he hasn't won shit yet.
@noopz0r lol look magic johnson was the greatest player to ever where a lakers uniform IMO! i would never have the odasity to compare him to jordan lebron james doesnt belong in the same sentence,paragraph or book for that matter! but lets be honest kobe bryant isnt the best in the game and he hasnt been for quite some time now
@youz1uglybish About Magic, good thing you said IMO, cuz' Kobe will be the greatest Laker when it's all said and done, even West said that, and we have to understand, LeBron's outburst of being awesome happens at the same time Kobe gets older, this is not a coincidence, prime Kobe was dunking the shit out of every big man in the league, scored 35 points a game. But right now, LeBron is the best, but again only because he is younger. Let's be objective. LeBron needs a ring. PERIOD.
@noopz0r lol kobe wasn't even the best player on his own team for his 1st three championships! magic ran the show time lakers like tom brady runs the new england patriots near flawlessly! kareem abdul jabbar isnt the nba leader in total point without magic plain and simple he made every single player on his team play to the absolute best of there abilities magic was like mayonaise on a sandwhich his entire career he just made everything better..and 4 that he will always be the best in my book
@youz1uglybish Magic was awesome, no one disagrees here, but as well as he was out of this world with his size and skills, he never scored 12 threes, or 81 points, every great player is famous for his own achievements. Kobe broke 99% of Laker records already and he's still on a mission, the fact that he is 33 years old and injured and still plays on the same level as LeBron/Wade, man, you have to understand something, that is not common, he is just that incredible...
@noopz0r when has kobe bryant ever shot better than 50% from the field in his entire career??when has he ever had a season with more than 6 apg lol magic owned the lakers from the second he walked into the door from day 1 he was the best player on that franchise even with kareem abdul jabbar still the best center in the game..magic won the nba finals mvp as a rookie and lets be honest he should have won the reg season mvp as well! kobe is a scoring machine but his overall play is over-rated
@youz1uglybish Ok, man, Magic Johnson was the beast, but stop it, I won't respond anymore, you seemed like a clever guy, but the more you say, the more you are getting closer to embarrasing yourself, you look like a hater, who's trying to prove that he's not. Kobe is anything but not overrated, he won too much to be called that. PERIOD. Just enjoy the game and have a nice life... xD
@noopz0r lol im far from a hater!! if you ask me who's the best sg in the history of basketball and i'll always say kobe second to MJ..but the theory that kobe was ever on JORDANS LEVEL! or the notion that he's still the best player in the game at 33 years old is total and utter bullshit..i completley understand that kobe is a great winner..he's also a great player but he's only great as an individual the truely great players find a way to make every one else around them better..same to you xD
@youz1uglybish Magic was a 6'9-6'-10 250 lbs PG, are you fucking serious? Magic had a FUCKING HUGE, GIGANTIC, COLOSSAL , BIG advantage on other PG's. your key heard should be "SHOOT" BETTER THAN 50%....... as oppose to drive better than 50%.... Kobe is a scorer who loves to shoot. Shot is harder than driving for a layup up. MJ even said Kobe was better than Magic. MJ said it himself that the only person comparable to him in skills and legacy is Kobe.
@RillMusik last time i checked anything inside 22 feet is a 2 point field goal...i dont care if magic scored 99.9% of his baskets on lay-ups its about being efficient! just because jordan said that he's comparable doesnt mean that jordan thinks hes the second greatest ever next to him! lmao i remember when michael jordan referred to bryant as a top 10 sg of all-time!! not top 3 not top 5 but top 10...lol just like shaq says bynum is a better center than dwight howard dont hang on every word man
@RillMusik lol yeah magic was 6'9 250+lbs but when has there EVER been a duplicate of this?? magic wasn't succesful souly because of his size it was his basketball IQ,court vision,leadership,decision making,ball skills,heart and desire to be the best that made him great! magic johnson could have played just about any position on the court he chose him being 6'9 is only a small part of the story...but again im going to tell you like a i told a couple others on this your entitled to your opinion
@youz1uglybish MJ basically said Kobe was the only one comparable to him in skills and legacy which stuns Magic down a few notches. When you are a 6'9 point guard you can literally see over your defender with ease, and know were they are at to make the pass. and even you have a SHOW TIME "TEAM" of great players to inflate your stats that could make even Mario Chalmers look like a Legend. Yes, people are entitled to their opinion.
@RillMusik are you serious right now?? NEWS FLASH every single player that has been top 10 in assists ALL-TIME have been under 6'5 with the exception of magic johnson and maybe oscar robertson!! so you trying to dis-credit magic for being 6'9 is complete bullshit!!the lakers went from winning 47 games to 60 and went from making the semi-finals to winning the finals the year magic was drafted! ppl have short memories kareem didnt play game 6 of the finals and magic had 42pts 15boards an 7 assists
@youz1uglybish big ass point guard... just look at Oscar Robertson, 6'5 Buff point guard in a time where your avg PG was about 5'10, and he avg a triple double. it just proves that when you're a big PG you can easily be a legend. yes every other all time top 10 leader in assists are under 6'5 because they had skill and High IQ, not a cheap ass gigantic height advantage to carry them to greatness. Never said Mario would be just as good as Magic. But if he were a 6'9 250 lbs PG with that roster...
@RillMusik Magic Johnson is second to none in basketball. Not even to MJ. 6'9" player that can play any position, and do anything? Magic Johnson is basically Lebron with less athleticism but with way more skill.
"When you're a big PG you can easily be a legend"
This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Tyreke Evans is huge + fast, strong, talented. LEGEND!? Get outta here with that.
@thiennguyenX2 is Tyreke a 6'9 250 lbs pg? not even close. "When you're a big PG you can easily be a legend" does not mean every PG over 6'4 is a legend. plus Tyreke is still young... you thinking a high draft pick 3 year man can become a legend just in 3 years is truly a dumb statement. Magic above Jordan? need i say more?
"Magic is second to none" meaning, he is second to none.
"if you're a big PG you can easily be a legend"
"Tyreke a 6'9 250 lbs pg? not even close"
NBA info page has Magic at 6'9", 220lbs. Tyreke is fucking 6' 6", 220lbs. Not even close? Do you know what "close" means? Cuz that's close. lmao. He's gigantic! for a PG in any era, he'll be a legend easily then. Boy will your face be red when Evans doesn't make the HOF.
@thiennguyenX2 First quote as random you clearly don't slacked off on hte reading comprehension part. Tyreke is barley scratching 6'5.. my bad my bad MAGIC WEIGHTS 255 lbs not 250. LOL 6'9 250 lbs is close? LOL i guess you think shaq and AI are close too right? Whats next you have predictions that Kevin Love won't be a Legend in the future because he's too young now? LOLOL
Remove brackets, read description, deal with your embarrassment. In this universe, the weight of human beings fluctuates. Prime Magic is not 255 do you have downs? He's also been listed at 6'8" by the NBA.
Buff ass Lebron is only 240-250. LBJ = Bigger/faster/stronger.
Olympics measured Magic at 6'7". Bird is measure at 6'9", and Bird = Taller than Magic.
Is there a point in this corny height measuring? lmao.
@thiennguyenX2 SMH dude dont even waist your time on this 1 he's too far gone at this point! i tried talking some sense into him BUT to no avail lmao it gets to the point where you feel crazy even arguing about this..magic is a top 5 player on my list.i feel as if he should be at bare minimum top 10 on everyones list ALL-TIME! the guy has the highest assist rate per game ALL-TIME hes got 5 nba championships, 3 NBA MVP'S, 3 finals MVP'S, 9 finals appearances in 12 seasons what more do you need??
@youz1uglybish Trolls are funny as hell man. I like to mess with them. When you got some scrub saying that magic is only a GOAT cuz he tall, best thing to do is walk away indeed. He's stressing over Magic's weight, like Magic was Shaq and backing down dudes to get all them assists. lmao. Like more weight helps you get assists? LMFAO. People man.
@thiennguyenX2 that explains why the nba & other numerous sites also so says he is 6'9 255 lbs, several times. Weight = muscle, muscle = easier to score in the paint... do you not use your head? LOL you're dumb if you think weight could literally start make assists. clearly his height gave him the ability to look over nearly everybody on the court.
"Trolls are funny as hell man", Agreed. But dickriders are even funnier. Look at the guy who cameback for no reason. LOL at you saying magic > MJ.
Second to none =/= Magic > MJ. These do not mean the same thing. This is the third time I had to tell you this, you can try to quote me, but it doesn't change the meaning of what the phrase.
You are going to have to ask an adult what second to none means. Or, just go google. For the last time, stop bothering me about what second to none means. lol
@thiennguyenX2 LOL got exposed and now you're trying to change around hte meaning of a commonly used phrase, because you contradicted yourself. You're Magic dickriding has put you in a hole that you can't escape. You have nothing more to fallback on. Please go back to what you were doing before you replied to me.
@RillMusik ? I'm changing the meaning of a commonly used idiom?
Second to none, is an idiom used to say that something takes second to nothing else. It does imply that it is the best, but it was invented so you wouldn't have to say "the best".
On topics where there are possibly multiple answers for, 'the best'. i.e. this restaurant is second to none. It means that this restaurant is AMONG the best.
You can say, Magic is second to none. Jordan is second to none. Does not conflict. *sigh*
@RillMusik Why would you fucking embarrass yourself after so many warnings and actually demand that I define the phrase to you is beyond me. You could have just googled the phrase (or use your head) and learned the connotations but you had to pester me four fucking times to get an explanation.
To be second, means that there is something better. To be second to none, means there is nothing better, not that there aren't equals.
@RillMusik Cherry pick broken info, on the official site of the NBA? what?
Why is your data not cherry picked and mine is? Also, Olympics? Cherry picked? Basketball Reference (unreliable site huh? lmao) has Magic even lower, 6'8" 215lbs. Larry Bird = taller than Magic. Oh you'll ignore these points twice I imagine.
And again, magic was never known for his scoring. He was 20ppg, career.
We've been talking assists and playmaking, where does having more weight benefit?
@thiennguyenX2 lol its just the blatant disrespect that keeps me coming back to this video and laughing hysterically at some of these comments! if kobe bryant even had a dream that he was better than magic johnson he should immediatley wake up and apologize!! anytime i say that magic is the best player to ever where a lakers jersey i get my inbox bombarded by angry kobe fans who get butt hurt by the mere mention of any player that could possibly be better than there beloved hero lol amazing!
@RillMusik im done with this magic debate!!!! i refuse to respond to anyone who thinks mario chalmers would have been just as good for the showtime lakers as magic johnson..have a great day!
@youz1uglybish And about MVP, try to imagine Heat without James, Wade would still lead them to the playoffs with Bosh, now try to imagine Lakers without old banged up Kobe, they would suck so badly, Knicks would seem like the best team out there, and that thing has stayed the same since Shaq left, the only reason Lakers are a contender from year to year - Kobe Bryant, you can hate on guy, but it's a fact. Gasol helped, but he didn't carry the team.
@noopz0r the miami heat very well may make the playoffs without lebron...but i'd like you to hit the rewind button for a second..it was LBJ who made the nba finals with arguably the most garbage supporting cast EVER when he played for the cavs! you literally could put lebron on the most horrible team in the league and they would be playoff bound because LBJ would find a way to get the most out of what ever little talent is around! kobe bryant could never do this he isnt a playmaker for others
@youz1uglybish Whoooowe, man, two words: two championships. Kobe led his team to two championship without Shaq and you are bringing up LeBron's "making to the Finals"? You have to understand, Kobe actually wins games for his team, right now being 33 he is the most athletic and skilled player in LA, if LeBron will be at least half as great at 33 years of age and would have 5 rings by then, then we'll talk.
@noopz0r this isn't about rings...championships are team effort you WIN as a team and you LOSE as a team! kobe at any age was never half the team player that magic was and IMO shaq and bryant from a talent perspective where the greatest duo EVER! its a travesty that kobe let his bitch feelings and ego ruin what should have been at bare minimum a 5 year championship run with shaq on that team! im not saying kobe is common by any means i just feel he's over-rated and has been for quite a while now
@youz1uglybish Kobe overrated?! Wow, and you talk about LeBron and then call Kobe overrated?! Double standards much?! About that feud with Shaq, here's what I think, and what we've seen so far, even Shaq said it himself, Kobe was a more prospective player, future of Lakers was about Kobe, not Shaq, and moreover, Shaq was older and should have been wiser, but it was his ego at the end of the day, not Kobe's, he was unhappy when Kobe scored 12 threes, that pretty much was it.
@youz1uglybish But of course they are both to blame, Kobe did some bitch moves I guess, but he is that kind of a person, every great player is a dick a times, even MJ was the greatest trash talker, that's not the point, the point is the Kobe's ability to play at All-Star level for his whole career, ability to break records and win rings as a 2nd and 1st player on the roster.
@youz1uglybish I understand what you mean about championship, there guys like Iverson etc. but, you have to understand, there are great players, and there are great winners, during MJ's era a number of top athletes ended up to form Dream team, but MJ was the best, it's just the same with Kobe right now, he was best on Redeem team, he won the Finals against Spain, Wade did a lot, but Kobe closed the deal, it's just that simple.
@youz1uglybish And again, it's the combo of Wade/James which makes the team dangerous, James himself wasn't capable of winning, he is now, he has open road to the ring this year, CP3 in the Clippers, no Green light on Howard trade yet, Tyson in sucking knicks, D. Rose in constant ricks of injuries, Kobe is older, Dirk gets injured, Durant/Westbrook issues, there probably won't be a more comfortable time to take the ring, but, if he fails this year, I'll be speechless.
@noopz0r you saying that lebron james has an open road to a finals championship is disrespectful to the entire nba! he doesnt have an open road..no one has ever had an open road and no matter who his teamates are it still requires hard work!! if it was that simple the heat woudnt have gotten pimp smacked out of the finals by the mavs last year with arguably 2 of the top 5 players in the entire nba on 1 team! the nba is home to 400 of the best ballers on earth dont forget that!
@youz1uglybish *insert Stephen A Smith laugh* Andrew Bynum on his best day is the best big man in the NBA PERIOD. The guy is the 3rd option on the Lakers team where kobe gets 24 shots and Gasol gets at least 10. Dwight Howard gets as many shots as he fucking wants. He gets the ball in the paint on every posession. Andrew Bynum is more skilled while Dwight is all athleticism. Bynum is better shooting free throws and jumpshots. The kid was mentored by Kareem for 3 years. He's legit.
@r0binzero lol yeah your right he is the third option!!! but there is a reason he is the 3rd option pau gasol is a better player than bynum! how on earth is bynum being mentored by kareem abdul jabbar relevant...thats like me saying dwight howard works with hakeem olajuwon in the off-season..if your going by that then i have news for you olajuwon had more moves in the low post than kareem could have dreamed of having but i wont even get into that
@youz1uglybish Pau isn't better than Bynum. He's just a more complete player. He has a terrific ft % for a F/C and has a great jumpshot. He's an amazing passer and if he had his own team, he could get 20 10 and 5 with 2 blocks nightly. Bynum's more of a scorer and his jumpshot doesn't stretch to 18-23 ft like Pau's does. It's not degrading Bynum's skillset, like Smith said in the video, it's elevating Pau Gasol's skillset. Kareem is a 6 time MVP and has the most points all time. #KnowyourNBA
@r0binzero im very well aware of kareem's accomplishments! him leading the nba in scoring is the equivelant to emmit smith leading the nfl in rushing...emmit was no where near the greatest running back ever much like kareem wasn't the best scorer ever!! kareem has that record due to sheer longevity he played longer than any other top 10 scorer hell it only took him 20 seasons..hakeem in my opinion was much more well rounded and complete than kareem he didnt have magic johnson to lean on
@r0binzero lol look bro dwight howard is a guy that can score 10 points and still dominate a basketball game! he is a complete game changer defensivley i dont care if andrew is slightly better offensivley and even thats up for massive debate! could you imagine how absolutley atrocious the magic would be defensivley without dwight holding down the paint?? andrew bynum and dwight howard just played head to head like a week ago by the halftime break bynum had more fouls than points that says alot!
@youz1uglybish You don't think Bynum is good defensively? The guy had like 4 blocks today and some of them in clutch situations. He blocked Al Jefferson's layup that would've given the Jazz a 1 point lead and lead the Lakers to a win. Plus Drew has that fear factor. He's kind of known as a dirty player and people tend to stay away from him. Michael Beasley, Gerald Wallace, and JJ Barea are prime examples. I love Dwight Howard, but you gotta give Andrew some props. Shaq even said it.
@r0binzero i think bynum is solid....look dwight howard from an athletic stand point is one of the most gifted centers iv'e ever seen!! dwight howard could very well one day be 1 of the greatest centers to ever play this game he is future hall of fame material!! andrew bynum strikes me as some one who could be good for a long time i havent seen any flashes of greatness!! bynum has 1 career 20 point 20 rebound game in 6 seasons.....dwight howard has 37 of those in 8 seasons its not close STOP IT!
@youz1uglybish Once again we come at this crossroad. It's pretty useless to compare the stats for them. Dwight Howard is the best player on the Magic. Andrew Bynum is thr 2nd best but gets the 3rd most field goal attempts on his team. Not to mention Dwight gets more playing time.. It's not a fair comparison. Lakers would only trade Bynum for Howard for 1 reason. When Dwight jumps up to dunk, people get excited. When Bynum does, people cross their fingers and hope he doesn't get injured.
@r0binzero don't get me wrong im not hating on bynum i think next to dwight howard andrew is the best center in the league by far...but lets not loose sight of reality here before his career is over dwight howard could easily rack up 6 defensive player of the year awards hell he already has 3...this guy is a perennial mvp candidate let me know when bynum gets his named thrown in the hat for atleast 1 year before making crazy comparions.. please beleive the lakers would trade bynums soul 4 howard
@youz1uglybish How can he be a MVP when the MVP is already in his locker room. Kobe drags Bynum down. Let me know when Bynum plays over 35 minutes a game and gets the most shot attempts on the Lakers before you call this "a crazy comparison." As a pure unbiased point of view, I love Bynum. The guy has a relentless motor for victory. He's tough, he's physical, and he'll play through an injury through the playoffs.
@r0binzero kobe is not the MVP and he hasnt been the MVP since 2008..bynum plays 34 minutes per game right now compared to howards 37 there both averaging 12 fga per game all things are pretty equal right now except for production howards numbers are still better across the board! in a head to head match-up howard will make bynum look like a bonafied scrub 99 x's out of 100 where talking about bynum whos averaging 10 pts per game thru out his career and you dont think this is a silly comparison?
@youz1uglybish It is a silly comparison. This is the first season Bynum's gotten decent minutes and hes putting up around 15 and 15. You're still going around comparing a player who was drafted #1 overall and given the keys to the franchise with a player who isn't the best on his team. What don't you get?.. Plus Kobe is the MVP favorite right about now...If you want to argue that, go to NBA and ESPN analysts to voice your opinion.
@r0binzero no bynum is not putting up 15 and 15 he's putting up 16 ppg 12 rpg thats a huge difference.howard is putting up 19 ppg and 15rpg and this is why hes an mvp candidate i dont need to inflate howards stats the simple truth is amazing! lmao again if otis smith was to call mitch kupchak right now and offer a deal for howard strictly for bynum his ass would be out the door before otis smith could hang the phone up but your entitled to your opinion man even if very few would agree with you!
@r0binzero and as far as kobe bryant being the MVP..lmaooo!!!! analysts are crowning him mvp for 4 40 point games in a row!!!!! look kobe cant keep that up and he hasnt!! lebron james has the 5th best fg % in the nba and he's putting up 29 ppg with 8 rebounds and 7 assists to match and you may as well throw in 2 steals per game on top of all that..there is no way he isnt the mvp at this point i will lose my faith in all humanity if they give kobe bryant the MVP he clearly doesnt deserve it!
@youz1uglybish Kobe's doing everything with a injured wrist. LeBron slightly tweaks his ankle and he's out for a game.. Kobe is literally triple-teamed late in games so he won't shoot the ball. LeBron is encouraged to try and dominate the 4th. Kobe can go for 40 just about every night if he really wants to. The guy has had 9 40 point games in a row and 4 50 point games in a row in his career. He just does what is necessary to win the game. It's the Most "Valuable." LeBron doesn't fit that role.
@r0binzero lol you dont win MVP awards for past achievments that shit doesnt accumulate!! lmao i like how people feel that points equal mvps!! no scoring champ has won the MVP since allen iverson and he did that shit almost 12 years ago! MVPS are about winning and OVERALL play..yeah im sure kobe could score 40 every night if he keeps jacking up 30 fga per game..lmao you'd be a fool not to triple team kobe late in the game he refuses to pass the ball so why woudnt you???
@r0binzero kobe bryant is great as an individual dont get me wrong...but this is where it stops..the lakers NEED an elite point guard because bryant doesnt have the ability as a playmaker to consistently create offense for his teamates! that is the deficiency in his game he doesnt make any one around him a better player..if anything kobe hurts pau and andrew bynum production wise because hes a volume shooter he takes more shots than anyone else in the league right
@youz1uglybish The fuck is this. How many fucking replies did you send people? You know you're taking it too far when you own just about an entire page of comments. Listen pal truth of the fact is, your opinion just isn't that important. Misconceptions is 1 word by the way as mis is a prefix. I'm not even going to bother reading all this crap you're putting in my inbox. Expecting me to read 3 replies just who the hell you think you are..
@r0binzero lmao and again your mis-conceptions..LBJ has been one of the most durable players since hes entered the league hes never missed more than 7 games in a season in 8 years...hes been proven to be much more durable than bryant who has had nagging injuries all thru out his career that forced him to miss significant time! lmao and then your going to talk about winning the lakers are barley a .500 ball club right now apparently bryant hasnt been doing enough..STOP IT..know your basketball!!
@noopz0r lol thats just about as biased and ignorant as it gets..congrats for spewing 1 of the most asinine comments iv'e read in a long time!! thats almost like saying karl malone didnt deserve an mvp because he played with john stockton..or shaquille oneal didnt deserve his MVP because he played with kobe or jordan didnt deserve his mvp because he played with pippen..MVPS are based on WINNING and STATS not wether or not your teamates name is dwayne wade and on that note im done with you!!!
@r0binzero smh man david robinson use to be a beast..easily 1 of the best centers to have ever played this game no disrespect to robinson but hakeem olajuwon made him look like D-LEAGUE talent virtually every time they played against each other..this is not a knock on robinson its just that olajuwon was just that dam great! this is what where seeing here with howard and bynum..you know your HOF bound when you make the best players at your position look like grade A garbage night in and night out
@youz1uglybish It's all about matchups.. You just think that whenever a player outplays his counterpart it's only due to talent? There are a ton of factors to consider. Put Dirk on the block against Hakeem and he'd make him look silly trying to guard him with all his fadeaways. Like I said before, every player has a certain skillset. That skillset could give them a huge advantage one night or a huge disadvantage the other. Night in and night out. Besides Bynum, who else is Howard's competition?
@r0binzero lol 1st of all hakeem olajuwon is 1 of the greatest defenders to ever play this game he has to be top 5 he could probably play dirk nowitzki better than 90% of the players who currently try and fail miserably today so thats a horrible analogy! you could give bynum the keys to anything he wants..i would bet my house and my neighbors dog that the magic woudnt make the playoffs if you simply swapped howard for bynum with the current orlando magic line-up!
Bynum is actually pretty good probably can be as good as howard if he didnt have any injuries.hes tall,powerful,better shooting n post moves than howard only thing he lack is probably howards athleticsm
the only reason people like dwight better is becuase he has an ugly ass team in the sence that he's the only good player but bynum has kobe on his team so he's not as much of a star
Despite his injuries and outside and inside court issues, Andy plays tough as a monster. This kid can at least power inside and dunk on the good dunkers such as Amare.
@carrisa345 IF Bynum is healthy and plays 37 minutes per game like Howard (he only plays 24 minutes per game), he could do it. Also, Bynum has to settle for less shots because he is the THIRD (not even the second) option on his team. Howard is the first (and second) option on his team. Look and compare their per 36 minute stats. They are IDENTICAL. Now, Howard is more athletic and a bit better defensively but Bynum DESTROYS Howard in terms of offense (and offensive moves). DESTROYS.
@carrisa345 I wouldn't say Howard destroyed Bynum. He played better...but you are basing your argument on one game (not fair). Also, my point is the per 36 minutes stats show you A LOT more than just stats at the end of the game. Bynum only averages 7.5 shots per game b/c he's sharing with the ultimate ball hog (Kobe) and a great PF (Gasol). That makes him the third option. Howard is the first (& second) option on the Magic. The Magic also don't have any other rebounding players.
I don't see why we have to compare the two. They play different styles. Howard relies on his athleticism, Bynum relies on his size and skill. Both are very effective. They are the only 2 legit centers in the NBA, and I would be happy to have either one of them on my team.
@RillMusik yeah but you are blind to the fact that bynum can't play big minutes. thats the difference. he can't stay healthy enough to play the minutes. thats like saying if yao ming hadn't broken his ankle he would be the best center ever. you can't discount something that has happened. bynum is great, not as good as howard.
@SerlingPictures Bnyum CAN play big minutes. Do you realize the Lakers try to balance their front court? while ORL slaps minutes in dwight face. bnyum missed 5 games due to a flagrant soul, has what to do with bynum slapping Dwight shit. You might as well say D-wade is shitty because he get injuries alot, because thats how your talking. Dwight has never improved in anything thats going to help him win championship since he was drafted, yet he expects he to fall over over him.
@RillMusik you're honestly going to tell me that bynum would average over 60pts a game, 45 rebounds a game, 9 assists a game, and would have a fg % of close to 90% You're a moron if you believe that.
@NBAsshole Skip Bayless is insane for that statement. Any1 who would choose Bynum over Howard is CRAZY. Bynum is the 2nd best Center in the league in my opinion & Howard 1st. The stats prove that to be true, so idk where the hell Skip gets that observation from.
@Cspan1986 Their stats are LITERALLY almost identical on a per 36 minute basis. It isn't fair to Bynum b/c he plays 24 minutes per game overall during his career where Howard plays 36 MPG. Howard is more athletic and still is a bit better defensively but Bynum DESTROYS Howard offensively. I'd also take Bynum over Howard (IF he could stay healthy and play 36-37 minutes per game...and also if he could be at least the second option on his team, not third).
@baruchlanda You know what, your right & I have to change my position on the subject, its Bynums fault. If he learns to put his career first & stay healthy, he will be able to elevate his game & get more time on the court. Like Stephen said, him driving those small cars can be a problem, so he should stop for the sake them damaging of his knees.
@Cspan1986 He's taking a step in the right direction this year. His minutes per game jumped like crazy to 34 (up from an average of about 27 over the last 5 seasons), & look at where he is: 16 PPG, 13 RPG, 2 BPG. Those are DAMN good stats for a guy who has to share the ball with Kobe AND Gasol, & is the clear 3rd option on his team. Howard without a doubt is not only the 1st but 2nd option on his team (look at last night's game as a clear example of that). Give him time & you'll see.
Before you people say Dwight Howard is better look at the number of touches that Dwight Howard gets on the offensive end. He is the PRIMARY option for his team.He also is the only person underneath the basket rebounding.Andrew Bynum, however, is the 3rd option for his team.He's also splitting rebounding duties with Paul Gasol who is a consistent rebounder. Bynum has a consistent post game, can shoot, rebound, pass and play defense. Dwight Howard can't shoot and mainly rely on his athleticism
ya'll fuckers comparing bynum and howard and this is the FIRST time bynum is shining....howard is consistent to what he brings but with bynum you never know what you're gonna get.
@ThurohInFullEffect So you'd rather take Andrew injury-bound Bynum than the best not only player at his position, but best defensive player, best rebounder, and one of the best post players, as well as one of the best center passers? Good luck with that. No disrespect btw
I only think Stephen a is right because LA has what they need on offense they need to improve there defense and thats exactly what Dwight brings, and Bynum is almost always injured
@SkyConqueror3 true but he's been doing pretty good so far this season...his numbers are pretty much even right now to howard and bynum isnt the first option...when both are healthy i'd take bynum over howard b/c he is a better offensive post player and bynum is bigger at 7 ft 285...the rebounding and defense are extremely close especially with the small sample of this season...but of course the biggest issue will always be health until bynum can play a full season...
When Skip said this, most people thought he was high. They automatically assumed he was retarded because of Stephen A. Smith's reaction. But I thought he (Skip) was right. I'd take Bynum in an offensive minded team like the Lakers over Dwight. His defense isn't too shabby. Not as great as Dwight, hell nobody is as good as Dwight in defense, but Bynum can contest and block and be a dominant center in the D. And in the clutch, Bynum can make free throws.
Bynum just put up 29pts 13 rbs 2 blks on the nuggets against nene hilario who is supposed to be defensive center....gotta give to bayless on this one...( if healthy)lol
@yellowdaffadill Yup, and Dwight mainly got his 20pts/24rbs against...6'8" BORIS DIAW?!?!? Are you kidding me??? At least Nene's a legit center with an underrated face-up game. I'd like to see Howard try and put those numbers up against someone of Bynum's caliber (or size, ftm) for me to buy into the hype. Bynum pretty much tore Nene a new one on both ends of the court, lol. Just wait until he gets his stamina back to game levels...
dwight howard is easily the most overated player in the nba im not saying he isnt a very good player but people give him to much praise the man is a terrible free throw shooter and doesnt have any where close to the same foot work and post game that bynum has bynum plays big dwight plays athletic if dwight truely wanted to be a power post player he would be unstoppable but he doesnt he plays athletic with his gay one spin move
The2kTruth 1 day ago
Howard is the first option on his team and avg 20. bynum is the 3rd option with a hall of famer who loves to shoot and avg 16 lol. enough said
keyno2007 2 days ago
I got three words for Stephen A.:
Hack.
A.
Howard.
Andrew isn't as dominant as Dwight, but when healthy, his length and post game can close the gap. I'm not saying Andrew is BETTER than or even close to Dwight. But there IS room for comparison.
Stephen A. is gay for Dwight if he can't realize that Skip's decision is reasonable.
You can't hack AB the same way you can hack D12 in late game situations.
241Opportunist 4 days ago
Dwight howard is good but he struggles against real centers and bynum schooled him in da finals and howard struggled on perkins,rasheed wallace and smaller guys then him lol
mario714619 6 days ago
"Dwight Howard is a beast!"-For some reason I lol-ed at that.
Andrew300Humphrey 6 days ago
This is the most ridiculous "debate" I have ever heard. It is not a debate it is two rants going back and forth. Andrew Bynum will never be Dwight Howard. He is frail and has no where near the athleticism as Dwight.
nnyyaall 1 week ago
Andrew Bynum is not Dwight Howard!
Ero2552 1 week ago
First of all, Skip Bayless doesn't respect Dwight Howard enough.
Secondly, main thing Skip said is "when Bynum is right", and honestly who knows how good bynum is then. That being said, Bynum does have a better offensive game than Howard.
Lastly, I wouldn't trade Gasol and Bynum for Dwight. That's way too much to give up.
Just my 2 cents.
btmonster 1 week ago
I didn't know 'Dwight' has an 'A' in it, Stephen A. Smith... "Dawight!" Howard
NicholasGigot 1 week ago
@NicholasGigot and people do the same thing for Wade. "Da-wayne" Wade. it kills me
MajorAddiction 1 week ago
andrew bynum is better than dwight howard of course when hes injured howard plays better so i dont see why people are comparing healthy howard to injured bynum when bynums physcially set injuries gone hes better than howard
TheDwill26 1 week ago
Shaquille O'Neal has agreed with Skip, and he is arguably the most dominant center ever. Just saying.
NBAsshole 2 weeks ago 7
@NBAsshole I get it nice one
youngblackmhg 1 week ago
@NBAsshole he took his statement back... just saying
youngbuck0911 4 days ago
@youngbuck0911 Yeah I saw
NBAsshole 4 days ago
skip is a dumbass
elchinolatino91 2 weeks ago
STEPHEN A: OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHAHAHAHAHA OH MY SIDES
tml240 2 weeks ago
"Has Kobe reached his potential?"....nigga what the fuck do you think....
PSXTonyTone 2 weeks ago
Skip is an idiot for saying that lol
PSXTonyTone 2 weeks ago
That reaction makes me crack up so much. How does Skip come back from that lol
DirtyHazza1 2 weeks ago
"is dwight howard dwight howard?"
skip, you have managed to reach a new level of stupidity.
jtaznbreakin 2 weeks ago 4
bynum is on howards level now, as the 3rd option for the lakers he averages 17pts 12 boards 2blks per 34 mins, while howard is the no 1 option 20pts 15 boards 3 blks, i reckon if you byunum on the magic he would put up roughly the same numbers
LanzJ11 3 weeks ago
Lakers dont need dwight they need a PG to run the lakeshow.
catdaddy1040 3 weeks ago
Why trade two great players for one? I would rather keep Gasol and Bynum.
Lakers24TV 3 weeks ago
bynum has a better offensive game then howard. howard is a great defender but bynum is good defender as well. if kobe stops shooting so much and give bynum more shots his numbers would be better then howards. bynum is avg 12 rbs howard 15 but bynum is playing with another 7ft in gasol who always grabbing 10rbs a game. if im the lakers i keep bynum and trade gasol for deron williams. btw bynum has 2 rings and held his own vs howard in the finals
knink24 3 weeks ago
lol there is a reason why these guys are on TV and not actual GMS
MrKillerDuckful 3 weeks ago
@MrKillerDuckful LOL and there are GMS that shouldn't even be GMS.
Dam0ndash9 3 weeks ago
dewight howard is a teeny tiny bit better than bynum on defense, on offense bynum is 3 football fields better thand howard so obviously bynum is better.
MrGunnaxl 3 weeks ago
Stephen Smith didn't even play in the NBA. Both of them need to stop taking about any player in the NBA. Including LUKE WALTON and SCALIBRINE. These guys were never in the NBA. How can you talk smack and u never worked hard enough to play in the NBA.
I am 14. I am trying to make it to the NBA. One thing i don't like is people acting like they worked harder than these guys to question their abilities. It is stupid and pathetic to have all that mouth action and can't even play to that potential!
GamingPhenom1 3 weeks ago
lol did skip say did kobe reach his potiential? stephen a smith is like wtf r u stupid....
M2Ka16 3 weeks ago
thats so disrespectful... Dwight Howard is a beeast!
NASvsEMIN3M 4 weeks ago
LOOOOOOOL stephen a smith kills me!
ImMrStealYoGurl 1 month ago 10
I agree on keeping Bynum and and Gasol over just Howard if I were the Lakers. I would rather trade just Gasol for a decent PF and a young PG.
rpandya97 1 month ago 16
daat's soooo ooo Dis Re spEC FuL
stevenp25100 1 month ago
if andrew bynum was on the magic he would average the same numbers...but he has pau on the side sooo
aaronschainm 1 month ago
He actually said that on national television.
Evenflowist314 1 month ago
Dwight is over-rated
barronguy 1 month ago
stephen a. smith is the man
rodrigoscp1993 1 month ago
We all know Skip is retarded
9987666 1 month ago
the laker 's need to run the offense through bynum. you cant be great as long as kobe is taking 25 to 30 shotsand your only get 6 shots a game
jeffnfoxylady1 1 month ago
LeBron has a better chance of winning a title than Kobe in 2012, LeBron is the best, most complete player in the game today, PPG 29, RPG 8, APG 7, SPG 2, BPG 1, not a single other player in the game shas those stats, and those are very close to his career averages, and Dwight Howard is much better than Bynum, Howard has better athletics, defense, rebounding, shot blocking, his footwork isn't as center based, but obviously is a better scorer, stats prove that.
dmaccking 1 month ago
Pathetic discussion guys, compare all you want, but here's the real deal: no way can a man be the most valuable player if there is D. Wade in the same team. PERIOD. LeBron might have been MVP in Cavs for once, that's it, his second wasn't deserved, Kobe should have taken that, he led his team to 2 championships in a row and 3 Finlas in a row, LeBron just quit on his Cavs, grabs second MVP and leaves to the Heat, that is not MVP performance for sure.
noopz0r 1 month ago
@noopz0r what people are failing to realize is that just because wade and lebron are on a team together that doesnt automatically equate to success!! look at the knicks with melo, stoudemire and chandler...they absolutley fucking suck! it takes alot for 3 all-star players to be able to co-exist on 1 team..you need your 3 stars to be unselfish and be team 1st players,there has to be an even greater commitment to winning and you need them to play both sides of the court lol good luck with that!
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish You are definately made that thing with the Knicks 2 or 3 days ago, because we couldn't know how much they suck until then, I understand what you mean, but, D. Wade - second best player after Bryant, already a champion, the most athletic SG in the game today, you have to understand, Melo and Amare are stars, Wade is a super star of MVP level himself, Pippen wasn't MVP when Jordan played, do you see at least that?! LeBron is a great player, but is he the MVP?!
noopz0r 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish About the NY Knicks, lol, this is a shocker, they suck so much that it's not even funny, and about LeBron again, every time I or anyone else tries to be objective, there is someone telling: "a hater", I'm not an idiot, LeBron James is a legit super star, but what I think is that putting him to the same level as Kobe, Magic, MJ is disrespectful, cuz' they are true leaders and winners, LeBron is a great all-around player, BUT, he hasn't won shit yet.
noopz0r 1 month ago
@noopz0r lol look magic johnson was the greatest player to ever where a lakers uniform IMO! i would never have the odasity to compare him to jordan lebron james doesnt belong in the same sentence,paragraph or book for that matter! but lets be honest kobe bryant isnt the best in the game and he hasnt been for quite some time now
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish About Magic, good thing you said IMO, cuz' Kobe will be the greatest Laker when it's all said and done, even West said that, and we have to understand, LeBron's outburst of being awesome happens at the same time Kobe gets older, this is not a coincidence, prime Kobe was dunking the shit out of every big man in the league, scored 35 points a game. But right now, LeBron is the best, but again only because he is younger. Let's be objective. LeBron needs a ring. PERIOD.
noopz0r 1 month ago
@noopz0r lol kobe wasn't even the best player on his own team for his 1st three championships! magic ran the show time lakers like tom brady runs the new england patriots near flawlessly! kareem abdul jabbar isnt the nba leader in total point without magic plain and simple he made every single player on his team play to the absolute best of there abilities magic was like mayonaise on a sandwhich his entire career he just made everything better..and 4 that he will always be the best in my book
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish Magic was awesome, no one disagrees here, but as well as he was out of this world with his size and skills, he never scored 12 threes, or 81 points, every great player is famous for his own achievements. Kobe broke 99% of Laker records already and he's still on a mission, the fact that he is 33 years old and injured and still plays on the same level as LeBron/Wade, man, you have to understand something, that is not common, he is just that incredible...
noopz0r 1 month ago
@noopz0r when has kobe bryant ever shot better than 50% from the field in his entire career??when has he ever had a season with more than 6 apg lol magic owned the lakers from the second he walked into the door from day 1 he was the best player on that franchise even with kareem abdul jabbar still the best center in the game..magic won the nba finals mvp as a rookie and lets be honest he should have won the reg season mvp as well! kobe is a scoring machine but his overall play is over-rated
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish Ok, man, Magic Johnson was the beast, but stop it, I won't respond anymore, you seemed like a clever guy, but the more you say, the more you are getting closer to embarrasing yourself, you look like a hater, who's trying to prove that he's not. Kobe is anything but not overrated, he won too much to be called that. PERIOD. Just enjoy the game and have a nice life... xD
noopz0r 1 month ago
@noopz0r lol im far from a hater!! if you ask me who's the best sg in the history of basketball and i'll always say kobe second to MJ..but the theory that kobe was ever on JORDANS LEVEL! or the notion that he's still the best player in the game at 33 years old is total and utter bullshit..i completley understand that kobe is a great winner..he's also a great player but he's only great as an individual the truely great players find a way to make every one else around them better..same to you xD
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish Magic was a 6'9-6'-10 250 lbs PG, are you fucking serious? Magic had a FUCKING HUGE, GIGANTIC, COLOSSAL , BIG advantage on other PG's. your key heard should be "SHOOT" BETTER THAN 50%....... as oppose to drive better than 50%.... Kobe is a scorer who loves to shoot. Shot is harder than driving for a layup up. MJ even said Kobe was better than Magic. MJ said it himself that the only person comparable to him in skills and legacy is Kobe.
RillMusik 1 month ago
@RillMusik last time i checked anything inside 22 feet is a 2 point field goal...i dont care if magic scored 99.9% of his baskets on lay-ups its about being efficient! just because jordan said that he's comparable doesnt mean that jordan thinks hes the second greatest ever next to him! lmao i remember when michael jordan referred to bryant as a top 10 sg of all-time!! not top 3 not top 5 but top 10...lol just like shaq says bynum is a better center than dwight howard dont hang on every word man
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@RillMusik lol yeah magic was 6'9 250+lbs but when has there EVER been a duplicate of this?? magic wasn't succesful souly because of his size it was his basketball IQ,court vision,leadership,decision making,ball skills,heart and desire to be the best that made him great! magic johnson could have played just about any position on the court he chose him being 6'9 is only a small part of the story...but again im going to tell you like a i told a couple others on this your entitled to your opinion
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish MJ basically said Kobe was the only one comparable to him in skills and legacy which stuns Magic down a few notches. When you are a 6'9 point guard you can literally see over your defender with ease, and know were they are at to make the pass. and even you have a SHOW TIME "TEAM" of great players to inflate your stats that could make even Mario Chalmers look like a Legend. Yes, people are entitled to their opinion.
RillMusik 1 month ago
@RillMusik are you serious right now?? NEWS FLASH every single player that has been top 10 in assists ALL-TIME have been under 6'5 with the exception of magic johnson and maybe oscar robertson!! so you trying to dis-credit magic for being 6'9 is complete bullshit!!the lakers went from winning 47 games to 60 and went from making the semi-finals to winning the finals the year magic was drafted! ppl have short memories kareem didnt play game 6 of the finals and magic had 42pts 15boards an 7 assists
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish big ass point guard... just look at Oscar Robertson, 6'5 Buff point guard in a time where your avg PG was about 5'10, and he avg a triple double. it just proves that when you're a big PG you can easily be a legend. yes every other all time top 10 leader in assists are under 6'5 because they had skill and High IQ, not a cheap ass gigantic height advantage to carry them to greatness. Never said Mario would be just as good as Magic. But if he were a 6'9 250 lbs PG with that roster...
RillMusik 1 month ago
@RillMusik Magic Johnson is second to none in basketball. Not even to MJ. 6'9" player that can play any position, and do anything? Magic Johnson is basically Lebron with less athleticism but with way more skill.
"When you're a big PG you can easily be a legend"
This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Tyreke Evans is huge + fast, strong, talented. LEGEND!? Get outta here with that.
thiennguyenX2 1 month ago
@thiennguyenX2 is Tyreke a 6'9 250 lbs pg? not even close. "When you're a big PG you can easily be a legend" does not mean every PG over 6'4 is a legend. plus Tyreke is still young... you thinking a high draft pick 3 year man can become a legend just in 3 years is truly a dumb statement. Magic above Jordan? need i say more?
RillMusik 1 month ago
@RillMusik Learn to read.
"Magic is second to none" meaning, he is second to none.
"if you're a big PG you can easily be a legend"
"Tyreke a 6'9 250 lbs pg? not even close"
NBA info page has Magic at 6'9", 220lbs. Tyreke is fucking 6' 6", 220lbs. Not even close? Do you know what "close" means? Cuz that's close. lmao. He's gigantic! for a PG in any era, he'll be a legend easily then. Boy will your face be red when Evans doesn't make the HOF.
thiennguyenX2 1 month ago
@thiennguyenX2 First quote as random you clearly don't slacked off on hte reading comprehension part. Tyreke is barley scratching 6'5.. my bad my bad MAGIC WEIGHTS 255 lbs not 250. LOL 6'9 250 lbs is close? LOL i guess you think shaq and AI are close too right? Whats next you have predictions that Kevin Love won't be a Legend in the future because he's too young now? LOLOL
RillMusik 1 month ago
@RillMusik nba[.]com/historical/playerfile/index[.]html?player=magic_johnson
Remove brackets, read description, deal with your embarrassment. In this universe, the weight of human beings fluctuates. Prime Magic is not 255 do you have downs? He's also been listed at 6'8" by the NBA.
Buff ass Lebron is only 240-250. LBJ = Bigger/faster/stronger.
Olympics measured Magic at 6'7". Bird is measure at 6'9", and Bird = Taller than Magic.
Is there a point in this corny height measuring? lmao.
thiennguyenX2 1 month ago
@thiennguyenX2 SMH dude dont even waist your time on this 1 he's too far gone at this point! i tried talking some sense into him BUT to no avail lmao it gets to the point where you feel crazy even arguing about this..magic is a top 5 player on my list.i feel as if he should be at bare minimum top 10 on everyones list ALL-TIME! the guy has the highest assist rate per game ALL-TIME hes got 5 nba championships, 3 NBA MVP'S, 3 finals MVP'S, 9 finals appearances in 12 seasons what more do you need??
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish Trolls are funny as hell man. I like to mess with them. When you got some scrub saying that magic is only a GOAT cuz he tall, best thing to do is walk away indeed. He's stressing over Magic's weight, like Magic was Shaq and backing down dudes to get all them assists. lmao. Like more weight helps you get assists? LMFAO. People man.
thiennguyenX2 1 month ago
@thiennguyenX2 that explains why the nba & other numerous sites also so says he is 6'9 255 lbs, several times. Weight = muscle, muscle = easier to score in the paint... do you not use your head? LOL you're dumb if you think weight could literally start make assists. clearly his height gave him the ability to look over nearly everybody on the court.
"Trolls are funny as hell man", Agreed. But dickriders are even funnier. Look at the guy who cameback for no reason. LOL at you saying magic > MJ.
RillMusik 1 month ago
@RillMusik Again, I never said Magic > MJ. Where did you learn to read?
"magic is only a GOAT cuz he tall"
The "a" signifies that he is one among many. lmao. Otherwise it'd be "THE GOAT"
Understand? Learn to read, you've made this accusation twice now.
thiennguyenX2 1 month ago
@thiennguyenX2 "Magic is second to none" meaning, he is second to none."
LOLOL fucking moron. And here i was...thinking you couldn't get any dumber. Learn to not fucking contradict yourself when i make you look foolish.
RillMusik 1 month ago
@RillMusik ....
Oh my goodness this one is...
Second to none =/= Magic > MJ. These do not mean the same thing. This is the third time I had to tell you this, you can try to quote me, but it doesn't change the meaning of what the phrase.
You are going to have to ask an adult what second to none means. Or, just go google. For the last time, stop bothering me about what second to none means. lol
thiennguyenX2 1 month ago
@thiennguyenX2 LOL got exposed and now you're trying to change around hte meaning of a commonly used phrase, because you contradicted yourself. You're Magic dickriding has put you in a hole that you can't escape. You have nothing more to fallback on. Please go back to what you were doing before you replied to me.
RillMusik 1 month ago
@RillMusik ? I'm changing the meaning of a commonly used idiom?
Second to none, is an idiom used to say that something takes second to nothing else. It does imply that it is the best, but it was invented so you wouldn't have to say "the best".
On topics where there are possibly multiple answers for, 'the best'. i.e. this restaurant is second to none. It means that this restaurant is AMONG the best.
You can say, Magic is second to none. Jordan is second to none. Does not conflict. *sigh*
thiennguyenX2 1 month ago
@RillMusik Why would you fucking embarrass yourself after so many warnings and actually demand that I define the phrase to you is beyond me. You could have just googled the phrase (or use your head) and learned the connotations but you had to pester me four fucking times to get an explanation.
To be second, means that there is something better. To be second to none, means there is nothing better, not that there aren't equals.
Why are you bothering me on this? lol.
thiennguyenX2 1 month ago
@thiennguyenX2 nba .com / history / players /j ohnsonm_summary . html
Checkmate.... 6'9 & 255 lbs. LOLOLOL Go cherry pick more broken info please. Dickriders never cease to amaze people with the stupidity.
RillMusik 1 month ago
@RillMusik Cherry pick broken info, on the official site of the NBA? what?
Why is your data not cherry picked and mine is? Also, Olympics? Cherry picked? Basketball Reference (unreliable site huh? lmao) has Magic even lower, 6'8" 215lbs. Larry Bird = taller than Magic. Oh you'll ignore these points twice I imagine.
And again, magic was never known for his scoring. He was 20ppg, career.
We've been talking assists and playmaking, where does having more weight benefit?
lol troll.
thiennguyenX2 1 month ago
@thiennguyenX2 lol its just the blatant disrespect that keeps me coming back to this video and laughing hysterically at some of these comments! if kobe bryant even had a dream that he was better than magic johnson he should immediatley wake up and apologize!! anytime i say that magic is the best player to ever where a lakers jersey i get my inbox bombarded by angry kobe fans who get butt hurt by the mere mention of any player that could possibly be better than there beloved hero lol amazing!
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@RillMusik im done with this magic debate!!!! i refuse to respond to anyone who thinks mario chalmers would have been just as good for the showtime lakers as magic johnson..have a great day!
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish And about MVP, try to imagine Heat without James, Wade would still lead them to the playoffs with Bosh, now try to imagine Lakers without old banged up Kobe, they would suck so badly, Knicks would seem like the best team out there, and that thing has stayed the same since Shaq left, the only reason Lakers are a contender from year to year - Kobe Bryant, you can hate on guy, but it's a fact. Gasol helped, but he didn't carry the team.
noopz0r 1 month ago
@noopz0r the miami heat very well may make the playoffs without lebron...but i'd like you to hit the rewind button for a second..it was LBJ who made the nba finals with arguably the most garbage supporting cast EVER when he played for the cavs! you literally could put lebron on the most horrible team in the league and they would be playoff bound because LBJ would find a way to get the most out of what ever little talent is around! kobe bryant could never do this he isnt a playmaker for others
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish Whoooowe, man, two words: two championships. Kobe led his team to two championship without Shaq and you are bringing up LeBron's "making to the Finals"? You have to understand, Kobe actually wins games for his team, right now being 33 he is the most athletic and skilled player in LA, if LeBron will be at least half as great at 33 years of age and would have 5 rings by then, then we'll talk.
noopz0r 1 month ago
@noopz0r this isn't about rings...championships are team effort you WIN as a team and you LOSE as a team! kobe at any age was never half the team player that magic was and IMO shaq and bryant from a talent perspective where the greatest duo EVER! its a travesty that kobe let his bitch feelings and ego ruin what should have been at bare minimum a 5 year championship run with shaq on that team! im not saying kobe is common by any means i just feel he's over-rated and has been for quite a while now
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish Kobe overrated?! Wow, and you talk about LeBron and then call Kobe overrated?! Double standards much?! About that feud with Shaq, here's what I think, and what we've seen so far, even Shaq said it himself, Kobe was a more prospective player, future of Lakers was about Kobe, not Shaq, and moreover, Shaq was older and should have been wiser, but it was his ego at the end of the day, not Kobe's, he was unhappy when Kobe scored 12 threes, that pretty much was it.
noopz0r 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish But of course they are both to blame, Kobe did some bitch moves I guess, but he is that kind of a person, every great player is a dick a times, even MJ was the greatest trash talker, that's not the point, the point is the Kobe's ability to play at All-Star level for his whole career, ability to break records and win rings as a 2nd and 1st player on the roster.
noopz0r 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish I understand what you mean about championship, there guys like Iverson etc. but, you have to understand, there are great players, and there are great winners, during MJ's era a number of top athletes ended up to form Dream team, but MJ was the best, it's just the same with Kobe right now, he was best on Redeem team, he won the Finals against Spain, Wade did a lot, but Kobe closed the deal, it's just that simple.
noopz0r 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish And again, it's the combo of Wade/James which makes the team dangerous, James himself wasn't capable of winning, he is now, he has open road to the ring this year, CP3 in the Clippers, no Green light on Howard trade yet, Tyson in sucking knicks, D. Rose in constant ricks of injuries, Kobe is older, Dirk gets injured, Durant/Westbrook issues, there probably won't be a more comfortable time to take the ring, but, if he fails this year, I'll be speechless.
noopz0r 1 month ago
@noopz0r you saying that lebron james has an open road to a finals championship is disrespectful to the entire nba! he doesnt have an open road..no one has ever had an open road and no matter who his teamates are it still requires hard work!! if it was that simple the heat woudnt have gotten pimp smacked out of the finals by the mavs last year with arguably 2 of the top 5 players in the entire nba on 1 team! the nba is home to 400 of the best ballers on earth dont forget that!
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
.....good one skip hahahah
MJRiley878 1 month ago
OMG!!!!!NO HE DIDN'T LMAO....skip bayless STOP IT!!!! andrew bynum on his best day is not any where near the caliber of dwight howard!
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish *insert Stephen A Smith laugh* Andrew Bynum on his best day is the best big man in the NBA PERIOD. The guy is the 3rd option on the Lakers team where kobe gets 24 shots and Gasol gets at least 10. Dwight Howard gets as many shots as he fucking wants. He gets the ball in the paint on every posession. Andrew Bynum is more skilled while Dwight is all athleticism. Bynum is better shooting free throws and jumpshots. The kid was mentored by Kareem for 3 years. He's legit.
r0binzero 1 month ago
@r0binzero lol yeah your right he is the third option!!! but there is a reason he is the 3rd option pau gasol is a better player than bynum! how on earth is bynum being mentored by kareem abdul jabbar relevant...thats like me saying dwight howard works with hakeem olajuwon in the off-season..if your going by that then i have news for you olajuwon had more moves in the low post than kareem could have dreamed of having but i wont even get into that
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish Pau isn't better than Bynum. He's just a more complete player. He has a terrific ft % for a F/C and has a great jumpshot. He's an amazing passer and if he had his own team, he could get 20 10 and 5 with 2 blocks nightly. Bynum's more of a scorer and his jumpshot doesn't stretch to 18-23 ft like Pau's does. It's not degrading Bynum's skillset, like Smith said in the video, it's elevating Pau Gasol's skillset. Kareem is a 6 time MVP and has the most points all time. #KnowyourNBA
r0binzero 1 month ago
@r0binzero im very well aware of kareem's accomplishments! him leading the nba in scoring is the equivelant to emmit smith leading the nfl in rushing...emmit was no where near the greatest running back ever much like kareem wasn't the best scorer ever!! kareem has that record due to sheer longevity he played longer than any other top 10 scorer hell it only took him 20 seasons..hakeem in my opinion was much more well rounded and complete than kareem he didnt have magic johnson to lean on
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@r0binzero lol look bro dwight howard is a guy that can score 10 points and still dominate a basketball game! he is a complete game changer defensivley i dont care if andrew is slightly better offensivley and even thats up for massive debate! could you imagine how absolutley atrocious the magic would be defensivley without dwight holding down the paint?? andrew bynum and dwight howard just played head to head like a week ago by the halftime break bynum had more fouls than points that says alot!
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish You don't think Bynum is good defensively? The guy had like 4 blocks today and some of them in clutch situations. He blocked Al Jefferson's layup that would've given the Jazz a 1 point lead and lead the Lakers to a win. Plus Drew has that fear factor. He's kind of known as a dirty player and people tend to stay away from him. Michael Beasley, Gerald Wallace, and JJ Barea are prime examples. I love Dwight Howard, but you gotta give Andrew some props. Shaq even said it.
r0binzero 1 month ago
@r0binzero i think bynum is solid....look dwight howard from an athletic stand point is one of the most gifted centers iv'e ever seen!! dwight howard could very well one day be 1 of the greatest centers to ever play this game he is future hall of fame material!! andrew bynum strikes me as some one who could be good for a long time i havent seen any flashes of greatness!! bynum has 1 career 20 point 20 rebound game in 6 seasons.....dwight howard has 37 of those in 8 seasons its not close STOP IT!
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish Once again we come at this crossroad. It's pretty useless to compare the stats for them. Dwight Howard is the best player on the Magic. Andrew Bynum is thr 2nd best but gets the 3rd most field goal attempts on his team. Not to mention Dwight gets more playing time.. It's not a fair comparison. Lakers would only trade Bynum for Howard for 1 reason. When Dwight jumps up to dunk, people get excited. When Bynum does, people cross their fingers and hope he doesn't get injured.
r0binzero 1 month ago
@r0binzero don't get me wrong im not hating on bynum i think next to dwight howard andrew is the best center in the league by far...but lets not loose sight of reality here before his career is over dwight howard could easily rack up 6 defensive player of the year awards hell he already has 3...this guy is a perennial mvp candidate let me know when bynum gets his named thrown in the hat for atleast 1 year before making crazy comparions.. please beleive the lakers would trade bynums soul 4 howard
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish How can he be a MVP when the MVP is already in his locker room. Kobe drags Bynum down. Let me know when Bynum plays over 35 minutes a game and gets the most shot attempts on the Lakers before you call this "a crazy comparison." As a pure unbiased point of view, I love Bynum. The guy has a relentless motor for victory. He's tough, he's physical, and he'll play through an injury through the playoffs.
r0binzero 1 month ago
@r0binzero kobe is not the MVP and he hasnt been the MVP since 2008..bynum plays 34 minutes per game right now compared to howards 37 there both averaging 12 fga per game all things are pretty equal right now except for production howards numbers are still better across the board! in a head to head match-up howard will make bynum look like a bonafied scrub 99 x's out of 100 where talking about bynum whos averaging 10 pts per game thru out his career and you dont think this is a silly comparison?
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish It is a silly comparison. This is the first season Bynum's gotten decent minutes and hes putting up around 15 and 15. You're still going around comparing a player who was drafted #1 overall and given the keys to the franchise with a player who isn't the best on his team. What don't you get?.. Plus Kobe is the MVP favorite right about now...If you want to argue that, go to NBA and ESPN analysts to voice your opinion.
r0binzero 1 month ago
@r0binzero no bynum is not putting up 15 and 15 he's putting up 16 ppg 12 rpg thats a huge difference.howard is putting up 19 ppg and 15rpg and this is why hes an mvp candidate i dont need to inflate howards stats the simple truth is amazing! lmao again if otis smith was to call mitch kupchak right now and offer a deal for howard strictly for bynum his ass would be out the door before otis smith could hang the phone up but your entitled to your opinion man even if very few would agree with you!
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@r0binzero and as far as kobe bryant being the MVP..lmaooo!!!! analysts are crowning him mvp for 4 40 point games in a row!!!!! look kobe cant keep that up and he hasnt!! lebron james has the 5th best fg % in the nba and he's putting up 29 ppg with 8 rebounds and 7 assists to match and you may as well throw in 2 steals per game on top of all that..there is no way he isnt the mvp at this point i will lose my faith in all humanity if they give kobe bryant the MVP he clearly doesnt deserve it!
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish Kobe's doing everything with a injured wrist. LeBron slightly tweaks his ankle and he's out for a game.. Kobe is literally triple-teamed late in games so he won't shoot the ball. LeBron is encouraged to try and dominate the 4th. Kobe can go for 40 just about every night if he really wants to. The guy has had 9 40 point games in a row and 4 50 point games in a row in his career. He just does what is necessary to win the game. It's the Most "Valuable." LeBron doesn't fit that role.
r0binzero 1 month ago
@r0binzero lol you dont win MVP awards for past achievments that shit doesnt accumulate!! lmao i like how people feel that points equal mvps!! no scoring champ has won the MVP since allen iverson and he did that shit almost 12 years ago! MVPS are about winning and OVERALL play..yeah im sure kobe could score 40 every night if he keeps jacking up 30 fga per game..lmao you'd be a fool not to triple team kobe late in the game he refuses to pass the ball so why woudnt you???
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@r0binzero kobe bryant is great as an individual dont get me wrong...but this is where it stops..the lakers NEED an elite point guard because bryant doesnt have the ability as a playmaker to consistently create offense for his teamates! that is the deficiency in his game he doesnt make any one around him a better player..if anything kobe hurts pau and andrew bynum production wise because hes a volume shooter he takes more shots than anyone else in the league right
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish The fuck is this. How many fucking replies did you send people? You know you're taking it too far when you own just about an entire page of comments. Listen pal truth of the fact is, your opinion just isn't that important. Misconceptions is 1 word by the way as mis is a prefix. I'm not even going to bother reading all this crap you're putting in my inbox. Expecting me to read 3 replies just who the hell you think you are..
r0binzero 1 month ago
@r0binzero YOUR RIGHT AGREE TO DIS-AGREE CASE CLOSED!
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@r0binzero lmao and again your mis-conceptions..LBJ has been one of the most durable players since hes entered the league hes never missed more than 7 games in a season in 8 years...hes been proven to be much more durable than bryant who has had nagging injuries all thru out his career that forced him to miss significant time! lmao and then your going to talk about winning the lakers are barley a .500 ball club right now apparently bryant hasnt been doing enough..STOP IT..know your basketball!!
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish D. Wade is in the same team, LeBron can't be the MVP. PERIOD.
noopz0r 1 month ago
@noopz0r lol thats just about as biased and ignorant as it gets..congrats for spewing 1 of the most asinine comments iv'e read in a long time!! thats almost like saying karl malone didnt deserve an mvp because he played with john stockton..or shaquille oneal didnt deserve his MVP because he played with kobe or jordan didnt deserve his mvp because he played with pippen..MVPS are based on WINNING and STATS not wether or not your teamates name is dwayne wade and on that note im done with you!!!
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@r0binzero smh man david robinson use to be a beast..easily 1 of the best centers to have ever played this game no disrespect to robinson but hakeem olajuwon made him look like D-LEAGUE talent virtually every time they played against each other..this is not a knock on robinson its just that olajuwon was just that dam great! this is what where seeing here with howard and bynum..you know your HOF bound when you make the best players at your position look like grade A garbage night in and night out
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
@youz1uglybish It's all about matchups.. You just think that whenever a player outplays his counterpart it's only due to talent? There are a ton of factors to consider. Put Dirk on the block against Hakeem and he'd make him look silly trying to guard him with all his fadeaways. Like I said before, every player has a certain skillset. That skillset could give them a huge advantage one night or a huge disadvantage the other. Night in and night out. Besides Bynum, who else is Howard's competition?
r0binzero 1 month ago
@r0binzero lol 1st of all hakeem olajuwon is 1 of the greatest defenders to ever play this game he has to be top 5 he could probably play dirk nowitzki better than 90% of the players who currently try and fail miserably today so thats a horrible analogy! you could give bynum the keys to anything he wants..i would bet my house and my neighbors dog that the magic woudnt make the playoffs if you simply swapped howard for bynum with the current orlando magic line-up!
youz1uglybish 1 month ago
"He aint Dawight Hawuhd"... lOL
cheesefish90 1 month ago
Bynum is actually pretty good probably can be as good as howard if he didnt have any injuries.hes tall,powerful,better shooting n post moves than howard only thing he lack is probably howards athleticsm
stevechen1991 1 month ago
0:40 to 1:03 good logic
PhilLakersKobe24 1 month ago
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PhilLakersKobe24 1 month ago
the only reason people like dwight better is becuase he has an ugly ass team in the sence that he's the only good player but bynum has kobe on his team so he's not as much of a star
obcflife97 1 month ago
A healthy Andy > Dwight
ericholla990 1 month ago
Despite his injuries and outside and inside court issues, Andy plays tough as a monster. This kid can at least power inside and dunk on the good dunkers such as Amare.
ericholla990 1 month ago
I completely agree with skip. The only problem with drew is his health. Bynum is bigger and tougher.
2LTime33 1 month ago
yup bynum is more skilled than howard for once in my life i agree with skip bayless...
CelticsAreNasty 1 month ago
@CelticsAreNasty hell naw u let me know when andrew adverage 20 points in a season
hes goofy cant jump he just got long arms thats it
carrisa345 1 month ago
@carrisa345 IF Bynum is healthy and plays 37 minutes per game like Howard (he only plays 24 minutes per game), he could do it. Also, Bynum has to settle for less shots because he is the THIRD (not even the second) option on his team. Howard is the first (and second) option on his team. Look and compare their per 36 minute stats. They are IDENTICAL. Now, Howard is more athletic and a bit better defensively but Bynum DESTROYS Howard in terms of offense (and offensive moves). DESTROYS.
baruchlanda 1 month ago
@baruchlanda not true did u even c the game dwight destroyed bynum cum on mans
carrisa345 1 month ago
@carrisa345 I wouldn't say Howard destroyed Bynum. He played better...but you are basing your argument on one game (not fair). Also, my point is the per 36 minutes stats show you A LOT more than just stats at the end of the game. Bynum only averages 7.5 shots per game b/c he's sharing with the ultimate ball hog (Kobe) and a great PF (Gasol). That makes him the third option. Howard is the first (& second) option on the Magic. The Magic also don't have any other rebounding players.
baruchlanda 1 month ago
Lamar no mo....
aman9314 1 month ago
Andrew Bynum is MORE SKILLED IN THE POST then Dwight Howard
650ballinwhiteboy 1 month ago
@650ballinwhiteboy HELL NAW
carrisa345 1 month ago
@650ballinwhiteboy His entire offensive game is better than Howard's.
baruchlanda 1 month ago
I don't see why we have to compare the two. They play different styles. Howard relies on his athleticism, Bynum relies on his size and skill. Both are very effective. They are the only 2 legit centers in the NBA, and I would be happy to have either one of them on my team.
andyrh525 1 month ago
Dwight Howard= 3 time defensive champ and either leads or is in top 5 of ppg, fg %, rebounds and blocks. Bynum cannot compete with that.
SerlingPictures 1 month ago
@SerlingPictures if bnyum played big minutes like Dwight than bnyum numbers would triple Dwights.that's something you don't understand.
RillMusik 1 month ago
@RillMusik yeah but you are blind to the fact that bynum can't play big minutes. thats the difference. he can't stay healthy enough to play the minutes. thats like saying if yao ming hadn't broken his ankle he would be the best center ever. you can't discount something that has happened. bynum is great, not as good as howard.
SerlingPictures 1 month ago
@SerlingPictures Bnyum CAN play big minutes. Do you realize the Lakers try to balance their front court? while ORL slaps minutes in dwight face. bnyum missed 5 games due to a flagrant soul, has what to do with bynum slapping Dwight shit. You might as well say D-wade is shitty because he get injuries alot, because thats how your talking. Dwight has never improved in anything thats going to help him win championship since he was drafted, yet he expects he to fall over over him.
RillMusik 1 month ago
@RillMusik you're honestly going to tell me that bynum would average over 60pts a game, 45 rebounds a game, 9 assists a game, and would have a fg % of close to 90% You're a moron if you believe that.
SerlingPictures 1 month ago
@SerlingPictures You are an dumb ass if you took that obviously exaggerated comment seriously, about bnyum literately playing 3x better.
RillMusik 1 month ago
@RillMusik yeah because the sarcasm was so obvious. what is obvious though is that you know absolute shit about basketball.
SerlingPictures 1 month ago
@SerlingPictures Very true
carrisa345 1 month ago
Stephen Smith is a jackass
cyrustg 1 month ago
Let it be known: Skip Bayless is my role model.
NBAsshole 1 month ago
@NBAsshole Skip Bayless is insane for that statement. Any1 who would choose Bynum over Howard is CRAZY. Bynum is the 2nd best Center in the league in my opinion & Howard 1st. The stats prove that to be true, so idk where the hell Skip gets that observation from.
Cspan1986 1 month ago
@Cspan1986 Their stats are LITERALLY almost identical on a per 36 minute basis. It isn't fair to Bynum b/c he plays 24 minutes per game overall during his career where Howard plays 36 MPG. Howard is more athletic and still is a bit better defensively but Bynum DESTROYS Howard offensively. I'd also take Bynum over Howard (IF he could stay healthy and play 36-37 minutes per game...and also if he could be at least the second option on his team, not third).
baruchlanda 1 month ago
@baruchlanda You know what, your right & I have to change my position on the subject, its Bynums fault. If he learns to put his career first & stay healthy, he will be able to elevate his game & get more time on the court. Like Stephen said, him driving those small cars can be a problem, so he should stop for the sake them damaging of his knees.
Cspan1986 1 month ago
@Cspan1986 He's taking a step in the right direction this year. His minutes per game jumped like crazy to 34 (up from an average of about 27 over the last 5 seasons), & look at where he is: 16 PPG, 13 RPG, 2 BPG. Those are DAMN good stats for a guy who has to share the ball with Kobe AND Gasol, & is the clear 3rd option on his team. Howard without a doubt is not only the 1st but 2nd option on his team (look at last night's game as a clear example of that). Give him time & you'll see.
baruchlanda 1 month ago
@NBAsshole get help
theimmortal8265 1 month ago
Before you people say Dwight Howard is better look at the number of touches that Dwight Howard gets on the offensive end. He is the PRIMARY option for his team.He also is the only person underneath the basket rebounding.Andrew Bynum, however, is the 3rd option for his team.He's also splitting rebounding duties with Paul Gasol who is a consistent rebounder. Bynum has a consistent post game, can shoot, rebound, pass and play defense. Dwight Howard can't shoot and mainly rely on his athleticism
e84fresh 1 month ago
Bynum is better offensively, Howard is better defensively. But Howard is the #1 center in the NBA. Bynum is #2.
leebo508 1 month ago
ya'll fuckers comparing bynum and howard and this is the FIRST time bynum is shining....howard is consistent to what he brings but with bynum you never know what you're gonna get.
MrJtotheohnnn 1 month ago
Nigga bynum is better than Howard
TheShyboy10 1 month ago
the two best comebacks by skip...
"but is dwight howard, dwight howard?"...yes.
"but has kobe reached his potential?"...yes.
mbj0133 1 month ago
stephan A lookin real dumb rite now.. look wat happened?? bynum started tha seaqson and is havin his best year yet lol
ThurohInFullEffect 1 month ago
@ThurohInFullEffect So you'd rather take Andrew injury-bound Bynum than the best not only player at his position, but best defensive player, best rebounder, and one of the best post players, as well as one of the best center passers? Good luck with that. No disrespect btw
rps2115 1 month ago
@rps2115 i would rather have bynum and pau than just howard.. u dont agree??
ThurohInFullEffect 1 month ago
I wanna see them talk this over now !
littledodgerfan1171 1 month ago
I only think Stephen a is right because LA has what they need on offense they need to improve there defense and thats exactly what Dwight brings, and Bynum is almost always injured
SkyConqueror3 2 months ago
@SkyConqueror3 true but he's been doing pretty good so far this season...his numbers are pretty much even right now to howard and bynum isnt the first option...when both are healthy i'd take bynum over howard b/c he is a better offensive post player and bynum is bigger at 7 ft 285...the rebounding and defense are extremely close especially with the small sample of this season...but of course the biggest issue will always be health until bynum can play a full season...
ridore9 1 month ago
Smith is a big mouth! Guy hasn't got a clue!
SialeSmythe 2 months ago
When Skip said this, most people thought he was high. They automatically assumed he was retarded because of Stephen A. Smith's reaction. But I thought he (Skip) was right. I'd take Bynum in an offensive minded team like the Lakers over Dwight. His defense isn't too shabby. Not as great as Dwight, hell nobody is as good as Dwight in defense, but Bynum can contest and block and be a dominant center in the D. And in the clutch, Bynum can make free throws.
KenBantol 2 months ago
0:21
tml240 2 months ago
Stephen A. Smith is retarded.
xiAMGeno 2 months ago
Bynum > Howard this season.
andyrh525 2 months ago
Bynum just put up 29pts 13 rbs 2 blks on the nuggets against nene hilario who is supposed to be defensive center....gotta give to bayless on this one...( if healthy)lol
yellowdaffadill 2 months ago 2
@yellowdaffadill Yup, and Dwight mainly got his 20pts/24rbs against...6'8" BORIS DIAW?!?!? Are you kidding me??? At least Nene's a legit center with an underrated face-up game. I'd like to see Howard try and put those numbers up against someone of Bynum's caliber (or size, ftm) for me to buy into the hype. Bynum pretty much tore Nene a new one on both ends of the court, lol. Just wait until he gets his stamina back to game levels...
PeekaPeep 2 months ago