To have a will of your own as to what should be done with money, is to have a desire to own money. Every man who works does so to make money so that he can decide how to spend it. Every time you commit your effort to pleasing someone, you create new value, and the quantity of money you are given reflects your act of creation. You set the conditions for every act of your consent, and whatever the quantity, you earned it. No man EVER has a rightful claim to that which so belongs to another.
Im embarrassed by my own country - this is a true summery of the opinions i have come across here in the uk... With ideas such as these, this country is doomed
"If you're right at the top of the pile, different rules apply" - Vine
"But that's not capitalism" - Caller
Actually, if HMRC waives a big capitalist's tax liability, then HMRC is supporting big capital. What's more capitalist than the support of capital? Competition is not intrinsic to capitalism.
There's nothing uncapitalistic about government helping capitalist businesses. It's only uncapitalistic the moment gov't buys a stake in said business.
So called 'Responsible capitalism' is a concept that does not exist as there is no capitalism in the UK, what we have is corporate fascism.
Capitalism would have let the fraudulent banks collapse and crooked bankers sent to prison - neither have happened. Capitalism would have made borrowers face up to their debts, instead savers have their savings and pension funds raped to bailout borrowers. There is no capitalism.
@TheSyndicate07 Capitalism is simply privately owned means of production. Capitalism doesn't need free markets to be capitalism, it just needs to be for-profit, and privately owned. In fact, capitalist businesses doesn't want free market competition, they want to be the only business in town.
@BOZ11 No capitalism is simply the accumilation of capital. Whether its private or state owned. With the accumilation of capital a society isn't tied down by having to consistantly making food for example, so capital and labour have the ability to move onto other things that will increase the supply of the capital, so on and so forth. Free-markets, control or stated owned is the means of organisation of that capital. You can put socialism and capitalism together basing on what I've said.
@jameshedleyturner "No capitalism is simply the accumilation of capital" - you
"an economic and political system in which a country’s trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit" - Oxford English dictionary. Stupid kid
@BOZ11 Capital "Wealth in the form of money or other assets owned by a person or organization or available for a purpose such as starting a company or investing" - Oxford dictionary.
Ism - "Denoting an action or its result" - Oxford dictionary
I could of used the term Ism in the way in which you describe but then the VERY fundamentals of capitalism is CAPITAL! and without capital there is NO capitalism. He shoots he and he scores.
@jameshedleyturner "without capital there is NO capitalism" - And who the hell said you could have capitalism without capital? There can never be NO capital; it's simply money and assets. The method of ownership is the salient point, you ignoramus.
As for your defining capitalism as simply the accumulation of capital, (as opposed to businesses run privately and for profit) every dictionary says otherwise. All you did here was contradict them all. Join the flat earth society whilst you're at it.
@BOZ11 Capital is what the country produces... food, cars, woods, items of things people will use for whatever. People are then able to do whatever they want with the capital they create. The more capital a country produces the more likely a country can move on doing different things, etc... That is how a country grows. Without real usable capital then you have nothing. You won't able to make anything without the capital we have. Finished.
@jameshedleyturner Money and assets are interesting. Really assets are only based on what people determine as wealth, just the same as money. Money (and credit) is defered payment of the physical capital. Assets have prices depending on a variety of mechanisms. At the end of the day doesn't matter if a building is valued at a thousand or a million, you just still... have a building.
@BOZ11 Yes so what If i have a view different to what (I don't know if its a global definition) the english literate. The private owneship and the profit are off shoots (shall we say) of capitalism as they are the mechanism which througout history have shown, the maximum production of capital in the system. The oxford dictionary is doing exactly what the flat earth society did pervious and only look at a shallow lengths
@BOZ11 Brainwashing - "pressurize (someone) into adopting radically different beliefs by using systematic and often forcible means" - Oxford dictionary
By very nature of putting two words together and making a pretend socially accepted meaning in which you forget the very foundation of the two isolated words pervious is a dangerous thing and will envitably confuse people. Just like fundamentalism... Going back to the basics is fundamentalism. Not what the oxford dictionary describes tho.
To have a will of your own as to what should be done with money, is to have a desire to own money. Every man who works does so to make money so that he can decide how to spend it. Every time you commit your effort to pleasing someone, you create new value, and the quantity of money you are given reflects your act of creation. You set the conditions for every act of your consent, and whatever the quantity, you earned it. No man EVER has a rightful claim to that which so belongs to another.
eggory 2 weeks ago
Im embarrassed by my own country - this is a true summery of the opinions i have come across here in the uk... With ideas such as these, this country is doomed
DavidsIllustrations 1 month ago
"If you're right at the top of the pile, different rules apply" - Vine
"But that's not capitalism" - Caller
Actually, if HMRC waives a big capitalist's tax liability, then HMRC is supporting big capital. What's more capitalist than the support of capital? Competition is not intrinsic to capitalism.
There's nothing uncapitalistic about government helping capitalist businesses. It's only uncapitalistic the moment gov't buys a stake in said business.
BOZ11 1 month ago
So called 'Responsible capitalism' is a concept that does not exist as there is no capitalism in the UK, what we have is corporate fascism.
Capitalism would have let the fraudulent banks collapse and crooked bankers sent to prison - neither have happened. Capitalism would have made borrowers face up to their debts, instead savers have their savings and pension funds raped to bailout borrowers. There is no capitalism.
TheSyndicate07 1 month ago
@TheSyndicate07 Capitalism is simply privately owned means of production. Capitalism doesn't need free markets to be capitalism, it just needs to be for-profit, and privately owned. In fact, capitalist businesses doesn't want free market competition, they want to be the only business in town.
BOZ11 1 month ago
@BOZ11 No capitalism is simply the accumilation of capital. Whether its private or state owned. With the accumilation of capital a society isn't tied down by having to consistantly making food for example, so capital and labour have the ability to move onto other things that will increase the supply of the capital, so on and so forth. Free-markets, control or stated owned is the means of organisation of that capital. You can put socialism and capitalism together basing on what I've said.
jameshedleyturner 3 weeks ago
@jameshedleyturner "No capitalism is simply the accumilation of capital" - you
"an economic and political system in which a country’s trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit" - Oxford English dictionary. Stupid kid
BOZ11 3 weeks ago
@BOZ11 Capital "Wealth in the form of money or other assets owned by a person or organization or available for a purpose such as starting a company or investing" - Oxford dictionary.
Ism - "Denoting an action or its result" - Oxford dictionary
I could of used the term Ism in the way in which you describe but then the VERY fundamentals of capitalism is CAPITAL! and without capital there is NO capitalism. He shoots he and he scores.
jameshedleyturner 3 weeks ago
@jameshedleyturner "without capital there is NO capitalism" - And who the hell said you could have capitalism without capital? There can never be NO capital; it's simply money and assets. The method of ownership is the salient point, you ignoramus.
As for your defining capitalism as simply the accumulation of capital, (as opposed to businesses run privately and for profit) every dictionary says otherwise. All you did here was contradict them all. Join the flat earth society whilst you're at it.
BOZ11 3 weeks ago
@BOZ11 Capital is what the country produces... food, cars, woods, items of things people will use for whatever. People are then able to do whatever they want with the capital they create. The more capital a country produces the more likely a country can move on doing different things, etc... That is how a country grows. Without real usable capital then you have nothing. You won't able to make anything without the capital we have. Finished.
jameshedleyturner 3 weeks ago
@jameshedleyturner Money and assets are interesting. Really assets are only based on what people determine as wealth, just the same as money. Money (and credit) is defered payment of the physical capital. Assets have prices depending on a variety of mechanisms. At the end of the day doesn't matter if a building is valued at a thousand or a million, you just still... have a building.
jameshedleyturner 3 weeks ago
@BOZ11 Yes so what If i have a view different to what (I don't know if its a global definition) the english literate. The private owneship and the profit are off shoots (shall we say) of capitalism as they are the mechanism which througout history have shown, the maximum production of capital in the system. The oxford dictionary is doing exactly what the flat earth society did pervious and only look at a shallow lengths
jameshedleyturner 3 weeks ago
@BOZ11 Brainwashing - "pressurize (someone) into adopting radically different beliefs by using systematic and often forcible means" - Oxford dictionary
By very nature of putting two words together and making a pretend socially accepted meaning in which you forget the very foundation of the two isolated words pervious is a dangerous thing and will envitably confuse people. Just like fundamentalism... Going back to the basics is fundamentalism. Not what the oxford dictionary describes tho.
jameshedleyturner 3 weeks ago