Yin baguazhang apps

[bruceblackthorne]

awesome drunken snake mantis.*master rules.

[Maskedpsycho]

I studied under Mr. Usui.

[DuYiZhang]

This man has some XY.

[bigfatdick5000]

Damn the japanese just loves to learn chinese internal martial arts.

They know where to find the rare gems.

[cfG21]

@bigfatdick5000 but then they turn around and act as if they made it for themselves or perfected it.aikido is from bagua goju is from fukien white crane and 5 ancestor style.

[cornfedanimal]

I thought so too. but I think it resembles mantis because all human anatomical movements are related. Also everyone gravitates towards the truth :)

[rAFiCoRe]

0:26 was cool :D yin style seems to be a very creative and funny style, although devestating in fighting.. whoever says that this great man is fake or anything... BITE THE BIG ONE!.

[ZhuangziZhou]

Can we get some English subtitles please?

[ZhuangziZhou]

Is Zhu Baozhen related to Men Baozhen?

[sylvester134]

the wisdom of ancient chinese

[rclere1]

if any of you even knew anything about Zhe Boazhen, You would not make such ignorant and uniformed comments... Oh, and the comment "not bad for an old man" he would dispense with your silly ass in short order. Rather be an old man and useful, instead of YOUNG DUMB AND FULL OF CUM!

[sloppymantis]

gross

[redmansounds]

Nice comment, I completely concur!...

[jervis8784]

this guy didn't consider how to counter the japanese guy's left hand in the beginning

[gordhill]

HE didnt consider it cuz it is irrelevant. IF he had actually made contact, the dude in black wouldnt have had the option to use the left.

[jervis8784]

oh ok, i forgot that he used a palm strike at the same time towards the guy's face

[ssj7gokurpg]

4:16 love that head butt counter

[ssj7gokurpg]

not bad for an old man

[YuGiOhGXJadenYuki]

dude it depends on your skill and training and how you use the style so u really shouldn't underestimate any styles of martial art -_-

[maekelon8]

I do wing chun kungfu from lineage Wan Kam Leung and i can see a lot of techniques that can be very effective for combat within the bagua system. Actually, alot of wrist movements in this vid are similar to the wing Chun. (i guess that alot of wingchun techniques derive from other early developed kungfu styles) So other wing chun guys/girls out there,try to be more humble against other styles, because you actually can learn something from them :D

Kind kungfu regards from the Netherlands

[ZajiaLushiChunqiu]

Wing Chun will destroy this style...

[vorpal83]

This was the style of the imperial bodyguards. There's probably a reason.

[ZajiaLushiChunqiu]

a reason for what?

[vorpal83]

For becoming the style of the bodyguards of one of the most hated regimes in China's history, in one of the most messed up times, in a city where all the big shots of kungfu gathered to smack each other down for reputation. Yes, there must be a reason.

[ZajiaLushiChunqiu]

??????

Like I said, Wing Chun will destroy this system of fighting...

[MattBaumann777]

lol silly chunners.

[mel956]

you cant really make a statement like that. it all dependso n the person and their understanding of the martial arts

[quanjiahao87]

Don't be naive I practice wing chun for years but it has it's limits as a system. Bagua is a very complex art. And to even get it right you need a great teacher who totally understands the structure of it.

[valkrion1]

NO MATTER WHERE YOU go bagua

seems to reveared the world over by many masters and teachers. it might be because it efective at long,med,and short range as an internal martal art one of the hardist to learn

[Moumichy]

Baguazhang! i always like that style of Kung Fu! it's interesting and it seems to be very useful!

[silatk]

Really nice!!VEry nice clear explanations!

Thank you

[YodaTheName]

This is the only bagua teacher I would learn from....unfortunately i don't have money

[theMAG101]

Why are there so many movements in this video that resemble Mantis? I practice Ba Gua, but not Yin style...are the movements inherent to that style, or does this man have a Mantis background?

Just curious. This is a very nice video

[tomlang]

I never did any mantis training, i have no idea why do you think its resemble MAntis... Teacher Zhu BAozhen never practiced Mantis in his life, just bagua

[theMAG101]

There were a few movements that reminded me of Mantis, such as his quick armpit strike near the beginning and his method of side-kick. Like I said, just curious.

[rAFiCoRe]

@theMAG101: about the stuff with mantis boxing: you need to understand that all styles come from the same root, there are a lot of same techniques and strategies, for example all the kicks in wing chun are taken from bagua.. and mantis was a style put together out of many other styles, so you never know what was invented by whom.

[RemekMM]

@theMAG101 Ba Gua contains many styles.Its normal in kung fu.

[theMAG101]

@RemekMM Actually no, the original Ba Gua Zhang was completely its own style consisting of the Lao Ba Zhang. Adept practitioners applied their previous martial backgrounds to form sub-styles (Cheng Ba Gua, Yin Ba Gua, Gao Ba Gua, etc.). And very few things are "normal" from style to style in Chinese martial arts, aside from core principles.

[RemekMM]

@theMAG101 I agree with You.Its only problem with translation.In some countries groups of techniques in one style were translated "styles".Thank You for answer.Its good that I got new knowledge.If You are receptive in conversation it always brings new knowledge.It was similar to mantis becouse combination of using fingers and absorbing energy of opponent is analogical way and sometimes looks comparable.

[goktimusprime]

@theMAG101 : there are quite a lot of similarities between Bagua and Mantis. The principle difference is that Bagua fights from outside of the circle inward, whereas Mantis fights from the centre of the circle outward.

[NTNGUYEN]

@theMAG101 Maybe you think he has mantis background bc of the wrist strikes... But actually Yin Bagua has many usages for wrist attacks similarly to Mantis. However, Mantis stepping methods differ greatly with Bagua Zhang, and the fighting strategy is slightly different.

[theMAG101]

@NTNGUYEN The wrist strikes were one thing I noted, his method of delivering a side kick was another. Was just curious if Mantis was in his background, that's all. I train Baguazhang, but not Yin style, so I asked the question I asked. I got my answer, thank you.

[HerBareS]

@theMAG101 what style do you learn? hmm Yin style has one main diference to other, more "grapling and moving" styles cause it is more agresive with punches, kicks and hiting. Similar to Xing Yi animal backrounding after learning the main principles ing Yin Bagua you integrate some mantis and white crane like sifu Zhu

[theMAG101]

@HerBareS No family style, just the Lao Ba Zhang as taught by Sun Lu-Tang (my Sifu learned from his daughter). We just call it Bagua...though some refer to it as "Sun style", Sun never attached his name to anything but the Tai Chi he developed. I am aware of the integration of previous MA experience that takes place, which is why I asked if this man had a Mantis background. Thank you, but with all due respect, I only ever asked the one question and it got answered two years ago.

[yumYumgwy]

I wish my grand dad was like that. I'd attack him in his sleep. throw rocks at him. If i hurt you Gdad it cause i love you.

[Lremediez]

spontaneity triumphs over technique as you will learn through Bagua etc...techinque is in fact used to root ones own basis, until individual personality decides what kind of spontaneous skill or style evolves

[cheekybastard29]

this guy is so funny and skilled. heh heh

[jinghuawushu]

haha............

[tomlang]

you can advertise yourself as you want, even doing a black PR but true is you are no one in Beijing, but Zhu Baozhen is famous. u just want to find some naive foreigners to learn from you for big bucks. have a good day

[Fence4Life]

Seems really similar to fencing

[NevanImranTheCambion]

that seems more like chu gar

[Theirry007]

them's some awsome nikes,lol

[Stormtalus]

On a side note, this guy is amazing

[Stormtalus]

Does this style use repelling techniques? As in stopping an attack with a push of roughly equivalent force? If I'm thinking of something else, please let me know

[Aheyne]

Stormtalus, I don't think so, because Bagua is a very evasive art (hence the circular footwork, large skill involved, and so on).  It doesn't generally encourage brute force and trying to muscle an attack in.

[Stormtalus]

Ah, ok. Thank you but then what was I thinking of?

[Aheyne]

It could be a number of things. I couldn't give you an exact answer - but in Kung Fu we sometimes use a movement called Gahn Sau - which essentially is pushing someone across their centerline. It looks almost like a push, but rather is a short jerk that sets them off balance.

I'm not sure what you mean though: arts like Kung Fu/Wing chun may meet hands in the middle - but immediately you'll see someone move outside, inside, around, etc. with a strike.

Can you explain what you mean more?

[Stormtalus]

Well I'm not sure if it's a specific style but in fights I've seen a person stop strikes with strikes instead of blocking

[lordtains]

Why, if it is spoken in chinese, is there japanese subtitles?

[tomlang]

because this was orifinally for Japanese audience. Guy in black is Japanese

[jimi2406]

wow...only wow...his strukture, speed and smoothness is making fear..

[teddythefrency]

BaguaZhang seems linked with Aikido.

[incumikeC]

totally different roots

[hellspawn133]

nothing like aikido wayyy different

[langying]

actually it is. In a book I've read, some of Aikido's main principles, including footwork was influenced by Baguazhang.

[BaguazhangMaster]

Yes. But the systems are just completely different.

[Hounoki]

They are both defensive, and defensive arts always involve a circular feel and a lot of deflecting. I think that's why.

[BaguazhangMaster]

Its not at all linked with Aikido. Trust me the two systems are nothing alike.

[CptKenChen]

You'll be surprised, a lot of martial arts, when practiced to the advanced level, look very similar to each other.

[Aheyne]

That's because as you become more skilled, you learn that only subtracting techniques is the way. Simplicity always becomes the key - and just a handful of techniques are those used.

[Capoeirista81]

No, the idea is to be able to know what to do, when to do it, and how to get your opponent in a position that allows you to do it. In sciences like Bagua, this skill is attained by being sensitive to where your opponent's center is moving, and then trap the person so they cannot move effectively. This ability is garnered through exercises like Rolling Hands. The resulting technique will be spontaneous, and you won't likely remember what you did. Subtracting techniques limits you.

[wushuwunder]

he reminds me of my coach!

[Riyun72]

It allowed them to train close to 100% power and conditioned them well, not many in west train chinese wrestling so not many think of it but if you look deeper into the roots of CMA you will see alot if it there.

[Riyun72]

Cloud I have to say you are wrong m8. Certainly other styles are having their day eg BJJ etc but CMA has its roots in chinese wrestling also which is not usually what people think of when they speak of CMA. The emperors soldiers actually trained maybe 85% wrestling with a little striking range.

[SupremeHedgehog]

Internal martial arts are awesome

[yiquanman]

with great respect cloud0123, I think this very video proves you wrong.

[Feixue07]

Wow :-)

[Allen2saint]

He seems like a really nice guy. Not some hardcore macho maniac. I'd study with him in a second.

[bodbodbodbod]

he looks better than most of you will at 40

[northpine]

thanx for posting. mostly yin and some cheng.

[chimbilae]

genial esas demostraciones de bagua

[jsooi]

this old guy probably never tried this stuff in real life. its just accessibly to more people so ppl think its good. but in actually fact hands alone will not work. plus china martial arts became strictly entertainment purposes after the cultural revolution. good for health yes but applicable i don't think so

[goshou]

This is a generalization. Everything you'll see in tournaments is simply excersize; however, if you look hard, you'll find the real thing. This is okay, not very good, but kind of halfway decent. However, if you say that all gongfu is now for show, you're showing your ignorance.

[jsooi]

no no no i never said all gongfu is for show. just the modern era. aka wushu lol promoted by prc

[goshou]

Ah. Well, this doesn't appear to be wushu, but old-style gongfu. You're on-point, so long as you're talking about "wushu".

[jsooi]

yes this is ba gua. an ancient art. the reson i say he wouldn't know how to use it is because. they forgot how to actually apply it in china. they never used it. you must understand china. then you realize only places like hong kong taiwan singpore have actually made use of chinese martial arts. china in the 50's banned all use of the art. than in the mid 60's allow it again but only for 'entertainment' more like dancing

[goshou]

Hold up, now, there are fighters in Beijing. Just because the government banned the arts doesn't mean people didn't use and teach them. Hell, it probably came in handy during the CR. Never underestimate the determination of someone who's truly devoted to the art; they will not let it die, and, since its purpose is fighting, they will fight.

[jsooi]

most of the masters were beheaded in the 50's or ran to other countries etc. and if you fight or do something illegal in those days. you buy your own bullet for your execution. then they will write on the walls of your apartment or house disgracing your entire family and so on. would you fight

[ahdoga]

The PRC didn't do much more than force hard core arts underground for a while.  There is a lot of hype about PRC vs. TW/HK etc... But, look at the number of people competing in San Da and other non-cooperative sports and you will see the PRC doing pretty well. Besides, when I was in Taiwan, all the teachers complained that the youth lacked the ability to train hard "年輕人不願意吃苦". Their words, not mine. Same complaints from PRC teachers now.

[liuchaquan]

"年輕人不願意吃苦" - "young people are not willing to eat bitters"

[cloud0123]

This is one of the reasons CMA is dead today. What lived on was very secret, and isolated form practice amongst families. As a result alot of CMA lost its fighting edge, and it was a reminder of a horrible time. I could go on, but this period of time was when kung fu, and chinese culture in general started dying.

[eyesonly654]

don't you mean gung fu? If you respect it so much shouldn't you know the proper pronunciation.

[BaguazhangMaster]

No,I am afraid your sadly mistaken...Kung Fu is still very much alive. Shaolin Kung Fu is very wide spread, and now days its almost as big as Taekwondo. Im not sure what you getting your facts from but your not correct.

[asiancowboy69]

that old guy is amazing!

[ruud1977]

thanks for posting. much respect

[yosheeut88]

wow, hes like 60 year old+, but hes so athletic

[tomlang]

he was 71 when this ideo was shot

[ophuchew]

I wish I could be doing that at 71 y.o.

[tkstka]

that old guy is amazing

[puja108]

good one, thanks for posting

[Newtypenewtype]

No prob! Thanks!

[Newtypenewtype]

Thanks for the vids as always...do you have any information on the Japanese group that studies with Zhu Baozhen? Are they still active? Any idea where in Japan they are based?

[tomlang]

sorry I have no idea, they never came again, I think they wanted only this footage