Monster Talon Pre-boost Tune 15psi

[mikeboostin]

lol at these noobs trying to teach you shit, if you built this car and made 730 awhp and ran 140+ in the quarter, im pretty sure you dont need tips from faggot teenagers on youtube

[dougieisbamf]

I have a question, and you seem like one of the few really knowledgeable people out here, not ones that pay a mechanic to do it, or just bolt on. But I have a 1995 Eagle Talon TSI AWD with a vacuum issue. My brakes aren't working at full potential. I figured brake booster. But thats not the case. All of my tubing is sealed, no leaks whatsoever, some people think its my injectors. Which are 750cc. Could you shoot me some advice through an inbox. It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks -Doug

[eclipsegsx765]

I got a 1998 eclipse GSX i wanna up grade the turbo to a GT35R will i need to do anything the internals? or injectors?

[RetroFingerboards]

RICER.... jk that thing is bad ass

[freakskater854]

anti lag :)

[chanzie911]

anyone know why my bro 1g gsx is bogging at 4,000 rpm? how come it didnt go up to 7000 redline? and why does it bog at times when i tried to floor the car? is it due because of turbo leak or something else? ty

[cameroooony18]

nice job :) good build

[taylonhung]

see /watch?v=3HWMd7PoiF0

[DonaldEHS]

e85 is better to run in a boost application because of it's higher ocane rating, decreasing chance of knock, but you can also run pump gas and use methanol injection (Windshield washer fluid) and achieve the same sometimes better results.

[brandongbmx1]

@DonaldEHS again finally another person with some sense!

[2gturbodsmer]

wow dude, impressive. your setup is legit. good work!

[brandongbmx1]

sorry.. impossible to making 560 hp on 15 psi.. e85 is just higher octane. but takes alot more fuel to make power. also.. even with a 4g63 ur not pushing that power on 15psi. unless u have a massive turbo and built from hell 4g63. ur talking going from 210 hp stock on 10 psi to 560 with 5 more lbs? even if ur turbo is huuggge and flows amazingly.. u wouldnt be spoolin that kinda power till 100000000 rpms in that car on 15 lbs. sorry. not possible.

[drfast4ward]

you obviously dont have a clue... e85 is more than just higher octane, its an oxygen rich fuel and the turbo was a borg warner s366 and ended up making 733 hp at 40 psi on e85 search monster talon on streetfire you will see the videos I ran 147 mph in the quarter do the math before you start blowing off about something you have no knowledge of you should do your research...

[brandongbmx1]

@drfast4ward i know the math idiot. i have taken many classes on it. 733 hp at 40 psi is possible u dumbass. 560hp on 15 lbs isnt. moron. so why do u have to run larger injectors larger fuel lines. larger everything to run e85?? uhh idunnoooo.. b.c it consums much more fuel to make the same power on e85.. ur obviously an idiot to agree witht eh fact that 15 psi will make almost 600 hp on a 2.0 lol.. r u retarded.. seriously? 40 lbs is stupid to run anyway.. well see how long it last.

[drfast4ward]

@brandongbmx1 yeah a whole 27% more fuel jackass and when that video was produced it was an estimation of what it was making and the same engine has been together for over 2 years running on e85 at 43 psi.. this is a full out drag car now that is licensed and insured, down to 2600 lbs. also the estimation at the time was at the crank... now the hp is 733 awhp 2 yrs running.... short block has never been apart, aside the initial build up in the beginning...

[brandongbmx1]

@drfast4ward wow no way!!!!! on 27% more fuel to reach almost 115octane!! yea bruh!! ill redo my whole fuel system!! Spend more money for gas and 27% less gas mileage! OH BOY and driving thru towns without e85 when im on E will be stellar!!! BRUH ILL BE PAUL WALKER STATUS WITH THIS POWAAAAAAAAA!!! or ill spend a couple hundred bucks on a damn good water/meth kit, keep my gas mileage and 93. but when needed i can have 115 for pennies. wiper fluid is alot cheaper and better.. just sayin.but w/e

[baseballstarjc12]

@drfast4ward I'd have to agree. 560 on 15psi just ain't happening. 733@40 hell yes. and borg warner makes great turbo's. do you have a street tune that you run? and when do you hit full boost

[JST4CYL]

@brandongbmx1

Man/kid, go play in heavy traffic. I love how you/people jump on youtube and become car experts. Funny thing is, people read everything on the internet and then assume it's true.

As for larger fuel lines and whatever else you jammed into your slurry of words. I'll cover that in my next post.

[JST4CYL]

@brandongbmx1

If you in fact had "taken many classes on it" You would understand that increasing the size of lines increases volume, therefore increasing the ability to flow more fuel. And this isn't important if you do not have the demand for it. The flashpoint of E85 is what sets it's aside from typical pump gas (89-93 locally). You are able to run more boost and or timing than what you are able to run on pump. Thus making more power.

[brandongbmx1]

@JST4CYL that has absolutly nothing to do with what im disagreeing with. you just stated exactly what i said. Yes obviously as read in my post it consumes more fuel.. which obviously means more volume... are you trying to tell me that b.c u increased the fuel line size that it also made the intake ports larger? lol it has nooo effect on the actual boost pressure monitered. see what im saying? Yeaaa as i stated more fuel more boost more power but depends on the flow ill cover more in next post

[brandongbmx1]

@brandongbmx1 wow i completly agree.

[kwikdsm]

@brandongbmx1 have you ever owned a DSM or are you just going by what you learned in school? Just wondering

[JST4CYL]

@brandongbmx1

If your so smart, oh great one. Then why are FACTORY vehicles capable of running E85? Do you think they are running -8an lines also?

[josieonetoothh]

@brandongbmx1 you sir are an idiot...i hope you've gotten smarter in the last year

[bobbond000]

@drfast4ward

I couldn't make anything over 400 with my 70mm until above 30psi we made 475@30psi 650@36psi, 710@42psi although we were at 10.8:1afr the whole time so its possible we could have got close to 550 but not at 15psi, I barely made over 300 at that boost level without spraying. now I just spray on top of the 710 car went 148 with a massive boost leak on C16 tho, I don't mess with that corn crap :)

[4g63jojo]

@drfast4ward if u dont mind sharing ????? what kind of main and rod bearings , piston and rod combo do you got goin on?? and r u still using the factory main caps ???i just wonderin cuz plan on doin high HP build soon and u say urs been runnin for 2 years now so i figured wouldnt hurt to see what u got goin on

[brandongbmx1]

@drfast4ward also to follow up on your stupidity and to further point out how your comment relates nothing to my post... your going to tell me that this car made 560whp on 15lbs with e85 and yours made only 173 more hp with a better turbo setup and 25 more lbs or boost!!! wow you must be doing something wrong then!!!!!! i would be pissed my comment is the car is not makeing 560whp on 15lbs even on e85. if you disagree. put urs at 15psi and dyno. then when u see the whp. do ur research

[PrentissRacing]

@brandongbmx1  I made 516 on 2.4L ka24det Nissan motor, E85 and a garrett super 60 turbo. The Builder of this Talon built and set up my E85 build. 516hp on stock cams, 1050cc injectors. e85 and a 60 trim garrett turbo. Search 500hp nissan 240sx. It's blue and on the dyno.

[brandongbmx1]

@PrentissRacing thats impressive. but your turbo is more likely much larger then the dsm in the video. also your a 2.4.. if this dsm had the stroker kit then i could see... but i bet u werent on 15lbs. also how much tq did you make. i know the ka t makes more tq then a sr20. my friend had a ka-t and it was sick.

[JST4CYL]

@brandongbmx1

Once again your wrong.

5psi gain on a 14b (Stock turbo on a 5 spd car) and 5psi gain on a 80lb+ lb per min. turbo is totally different. PSI and velocity are not the same.

However, I do agree that 560hp is probable to someones inflating it. This turbo is known to make great power at lower than normal psi. I could see 20-25psi making this EASILY!

[brandongbmx1]

@JST4CYL yes higher octane gives u the ability for more boost/timing.. my arguement here is i do not agree that this dsm is makeing 560whp on 15lbs, but little is known as to what is done to the engine. larger intake manifold, ported head, bored, larger valves, all determines the boost factors. just like expanding a sealed room the pressure becomes less even tho there is the same amount of air inside. so you tell me what all would need to be done to a 4g63 to make 560whp on e85 buddy 15p

[Staztrx250]

@brandongbmx1 it's totally possible psi dose matter at all. It come down to flow rate if you really took classes on it you would know that.

[4g63jojo]

@Staztrx250 ok??? and if u took classes or can read a turbo map you would know flow rate comes down to how much PSI your runnin

[Staztrx250]

@4g63jojo which is dependent on the turbo 25 psi on a t25 is a hell of a lot less flow than a gt35 on 5 psi you know nothing

[4g63jojo]

@Staztrx250 ok i didnt say anything about a t25 flowing more than a gt35?????? , im saying that no matter what the turbo is , the flow rate is directly dependent on psi, have u ever seen a turbo map ????

[appoxi]

@brandongbmx1 ... its very possible.. how do you know which turbo he has.. could be a fuckin 42R man.. hes got a chute.. prob a 9 second dsm

[connersafford]

take the parachute off they really dont need it like for real whens the last time u seen a normal car pull a chut besides ike those hug ass drag cars correct me if im wrong

[PrentissRacing]

@connersafford when was the Last time a normal car ran 147mph 1/4 mile? Tracks require you to run safety equipment when you reach Certain speeds and Times.

[cr123555]

sick talon. nice job on being safe tho. if u ever gonna hit something at a high speed just hit the eject button and pull the parachute lol

[rotaryturbo88]

i dont know what i would think if i saw a car pull up next to me on the street with the laundry bag sticking out the back like that........like katt williams said "I dont even wanna BE on this road"

[dsmturbo16g]

just shutting it off after boosting it is not good. the turbo housing is so hot it'll bake the oil in the line. need to cool off at least 4 minites before shutting off.

[rodatv]

@dsmturbo16g so once you ride the throttle hot for a while you should let the car idle a bit?

[yungc1019]

@dsmturbo16g thats what a turbo timer is for.. i have mine set at 1:30 when i drive normally. and preset # 2 is set for 6 min. just so i know my turbo il cool

[BoOsTFeRLiFeSRT4DSM]

NO TURBO TIMER, OOOOUCH, beat on that thing and then you just shut it of like a normal car, not goooooooood

[bhfuse]

did that fucker chirp all 4 wheels in 2nd gear???? thats sick!!!! 0:58 listen close... that thing is a monster

[BlowenSmokeRings]

@bhfuse hell yea they barked that is a beast it seems

[brandongbmx1]

@bhfuse if and that a big ifffffff its awd which i doubt.. chirppin them isnt hard.. considering the way its setup is to give 2 wheels power and the other 2 power when they loose traction or are in need. usually they get a percentage of the drivetrain power. like fwd usually only one wheel is making power

[PrentissRacing]

@brandongbmx1 You have got to be Fucking joking me, A nice FWD LSD will put power to both wheels, Fucking Internet Troll. You must drive a Grand AM

[bhfuse]

@brandongbmx1 the ass end kicked out when he launched, therefor it must be an awd.... so theres no "big iffff" about it. If you knew anything about cars, you would be able to tell the difference between a fwd launch and an awd launch with ease

[brandongbmx1]

@bhfuse hahah ok... go ride ur bike... if u belive 600 hp is coming out of a 2.0 on 15 lbs u need to go shoot urself.

[TravisCadello]

holly fuck. i want one now.

[hediki]

yo wat size injectors will let you run 40psi on e85? also what turbo? gt37r?

[drfast4ward]

@hediki 1600 cc injectors and it wasa borg warner s366 then went to a borg warner s372... car is now dissasembled and rwd

[cobraman897]

@drfast4ward do you loose torque or power with rwd since its ment to be awd?

[trillsouthernpimp]

@drfast4ward this aint no supra lol. 1250cc injectors is the key

[trillsouthernpimp]

@hediki friend is running 1250cc injectors with an hx35 70mm turbo with two fuel pumps running a lil over 40psi making over 700 at the wheels

[mitsubishilaser]

blow all 4 up on the launch, NICE!

[DSMDriver69]

what turbo is this talon running? btw nice wheels

[s13able]

that sounds like a hks ssqv

[joesmo505]

ya i think it is, i have one on my 1g... hks makes the best sounding bov for sure

[s13able]

yea i got 2 of them one on my s13 silvia and one on my talon

[Weazell]

lol, the fuckin car ice skated for the first 20 feet

[scarfaceXtc]

Isnt the 2.0L a chrysler motor?

[getdrunk1990]

4g63t and 420a are both 2.0s.

[scarfaceXtc]

ahh ok ok so the 4g63t is the japanese motor right?

[getdrunk1990]

yep

[alexbrave2]

mist. motor

[joesmo505]

no but chrysler used it for their cars as part of a deal with mutsubishi.

[eLpeach]

great video guys keep that crazy devil car on a leash! lol jk

[Preacher247]

what kind of BOV?

[TheLeeno]

holy shit, I want e85, 560hp with only 15psi is nice!

[asianstyle123]

my girlfriend had the same car, usually we always run seven psi, but once i push it 17 psi. after that the car got crankwalk. shit i hate those motor. but dont get me wrong i love the car.

[Mktj69]

ya, thats my fave car

[b4bWoW]

wow a lot of retards comment on a car video, talons are fast and a nice looking car to tune plz get a life and comment if its positive u sounds like a five year old dumb shit.

[RBdreamer]

do you have a link to a build thread

[josephflynn007]

Car sounds awesome

[pontiacfirebird1997]

i love hearing the sound of a turbo

[watchforfinger]

nice

[strongbad73]

nice parachute! u planning on skydiving with ur talon , u aint ever going fast enough in that thing to need one thats for sure!

[pepperdsm]

RIGHT! Lol and thats only 15psi.

You obviously know alot about cars

[idateugly]

what turbo?

[commodore64738]

try BMW ore AUDI these a real cars, but not that american monkey swing LOL

[seangeeb4o9]

15psi... if he ends up runnin 40 then watch.

[commodore64738]

watch what ?

[86250r]

right...i'll make you a deal... you spend 40+ grand on a new bmw or audi and i'll buy a used 2g talon and put the same amount in it, then we'll line them up and see which is faster...

[commodore64738]

don't forget to drive some bends and nor only straight LOL. I'd invest these 40 garnds in a SAAB, bye bye.

[fatazn510boi]

oh and your rims are too high for your car. you need to get some 16" or 17" rims

[fatazn510boi]

lol dats not freaking crazy. that was alright. that talon needs some more tuning up.

[MrJustincromwell]

wow i wish my 96 Esi sounded like this but it sounds like a damn dirtbike lol

[BoOsTFeRLiFeSRT4DSM]

no turbo timer??

[Red97Avenger]

i was referring to the engine not the car . notice how i said 1st gen 4g not 1st gen body style ... wtf are u smokin on

[thashogun1]

daamn

[Red97Avenger]

hope thats a 1g 4g63 if not beware of crankwalk my dude

[vbaker4]

Yeah.... That's a 2g man. And crankwalk is only on the 7 bolt 4g's.

[Red97Avenger]

2nd gen 4g63 are 7 bolt dude

[getdrunk1990]

Only idiots who are some what ricer minded aka most get crank walk. If your going to try to build a fast 4g63 you should have the brains to do matnance on it as in "replace the crank bearings" ever so many miles/hours. Crank walk only happens if you let the crank bearings go bad.

[Red97Avenger]

crankwalk is mostly due to half counter weighted cranks tryin to hold up with alot of power . fully counter weighted billet cranks will solve that . YEAH IDOITS WITH THEIR RICER MINDS ... HA ... its called main bearings not crank bearings , and also how do you think they go bad ...MY GUESS IS HALF WEIGHTED CRANKS .

[Red97Avenger]

fuckin beast

[braceyoself777]

WOW!!! Damn dude!

[josegartt]

i actually had a 94 tsi awd wich i just sold cuz i didnt wanna fix some brake problems on it....pretty much the worst thing ive ever done in my life!!! my next car is gonna be a talon 95 or newer and awd this will be my 3rd talon i hope to keep it for a while

im working on a 88 crx at the moment will have some videos soon

[mattisbak]

i've got a '98 Eagle Talon esi. It looks fast but we all know the truth. It's got the more agressive front bumper and bigger rear spoiler with the spoiler style sunroof. It's all stock. How much should I sell it for? I want a tsi

[DnzBoy07]

how many miles?

[karnag30kc]

I love how at 0:56 you can see the AWD +suspension start to dig into the pavement as the boost builds.

[wproject2g1]

sick car, dsm powahh! , what kind of wheels/tires r those?

[mrmanitoba]

I like how the intercooler looks like the front grill.

[nagy05]

sick car, 40psi vid?

[connerconn]

Ethanol...methanol...pretty much the same as alcohol. alcohol(ethanol) burns at a lower temperature and burns fuller and cleaner. also its 110 octane. Im converting my 93tsi to alcohol for the advantages it has over gasoline. very cheap to convert and youll never blow a motor.

[ls1maro99]

the higher the octane the more temperature there needs to be to ignite it... you have a backwards... it slows down the burn time... does the same thing as meth/water injector but not exactly the same

[MyLimpIsGangsta]

why the chute? doesn't look like it needs one.

[Morpherex]

Do you not see what it's doing at only 15psi?

[dragunov866]

what is psi

[DirtBikesAustralia]

psi stands for: pound per square inch....

its a measurment of pressure - for example its used to test the pressure of car tyres...

[justinfoushee]

2nd gear awd scratch... not too shabby..lol.. AWESOME CAR BRO!!!

[osoqiktsi]

The car runs on ethanol, and is probably running a giant turbo, I would love to see the 40psi video

[bobbond000]

Something doesn't add up...560hp@15psi on a 2.0...are you spraying 300 shot or running 14:1 compression??

[osoqiktsi]

Read teh description, the car was making 560hp @15psi on e85 in this video. cant wait to see the 40psi runs. insane!

[blitzcarn]

Wow nice setup!! how much hp u running at? and what intercooler you using?

[stealth1234512345]

whatta nice launchhhhhhh awd babyyyyyyy

[20MiVeC20]

man i couöd watch this again and again , was this basic talon tsi awd , and do they got the 4g63t 2,0 , cause some idiotes mean this is not a 4g63 , ?????

[speedking87]

what setup r u ruinning on this tsi OMG lol

[josegartt]

hey i got a couple of questions i got a really weak talon esi and im wondering is it hard to make it awd and is it worth it, and with the t3 t4 turbo kit what kind of hp im i looking at...i hope u can help me out thanks and by the way very very nice car

[SUBY9]

no it is not worth to make it awd. It's going to cost you more onparts, labor+body work from underneath and where is suspension, brakes, time .... Get rid of your esi and buy tsi

[Jeff99GS]

Sweet video, Im with SUBY9 on that too...I just sold my 420a eclipse and bought a Talon TSi AWD! Let me tell you it was WORTH it bro...AWD is SICK!!! Sell that ESi ASAP

[josegartt]

hey man i was willing to invest a lot of money in it thanks for the tips, i wanted a 2g, so i sold the 95 esi for 1000 and bought a 94 tsi awd for 1200, and the car has 90,000 original miles and its all stock, if you ask me id say i made the best move anyone could do...

[Tucker2682]

you mean you wanted a 1g?

[speedking87]

i'm wit suby9, wtf would u go tru all dat, jus get a tsi awd or gsx which ever u like, smh, i'll only do that if i wanted sumthing sick... 4g63 awd conquest tsi lol, dam lol but yea... jus buy a awd one

[20MiVeC20]

yeah man you'r right, its very powerfull and nice

[speedking87]

i would say awd, fwd would have spinned sum, but wheels seem 2 be gettin power at the same time, dam sexi azz 2g

[20MiVeC20]

daaaamn man its fucking awesome charged awsome fwd or awd ?

[jsancho510]

song sick bro nice car!!

[ihj32607]

is it awd or fwd?

[hubz08]

awd...560hp you would smoke the tires in 4th..

[ihj32607]

is it awd or fwd?

[enigmaPL]

DUUUUUUDE!!!!! MAJOR PROPS!!!!! that talon is sick!! omg, you have to tell what wut kind of exhaust that is cuz i nutted in my pants when i heard it, and i need one of those on my talon

[djluis27]

poder americano eagle talon is the best

[14supra14]

the sound of rev limiter is nice!

[bblauter]

e 85 are you kidding

[adm2204]

dude mine runs on e85 too

[bblauter]

I have learned alot about e85 in 9 months and am glad I got to see this, basicly no detonation.

[br3nnyn]

it has higher octane...you just have to run bigger injectors.

[tsiturbomightymax]

Also what kind of exhaust does that thing have on it? It sounds sick!!!

[tsiturbomightymax]

Very Very Very noce, what mods are done to it?