@BR0KENT0YS0LDIER can not beat .45 stopping power. Also, i get so many returns and trade ins of the pt 809 i dont sell or buy them anymore. You can not beat Glock reliability. I will always stock and sell 1911's and glocks.
@MyRagingPwner I Just bought a 21SF and the hand grip feels so much more comfortable and makes it feel like you have more control when firing. Definitely worth it.
The video is informative and awesome. Hooray for consistency.
This just goes to show that in 100 years, the same cartridge performs the same on high end/low friction pistols, but the newer 40 S&W is more practical. I know of a few 45 ACP cartridges that have performances that are insane... but you need a +P+ rated pistol.
It always seemed counter intuitive that a 1911 would be easier for multiple shots in quick succession, but the slow motion shows what might be the reason: the heavier slide, and stronger spring, push the weapon back into battery faster and with more force. The recoil might be a little more exaggerated, but when the slide comes back it pushes the weapon back to the original point of aim. Cool video.
@LordHumungusFL WTF do you mean it's not? what are you measuring powerful as? what do YOU define it as, in all honesty of course? Because when it comes to semi-automatic handgun rounds the .45 Automatic Colt Pistol round is devastating. It is able to transfer more energy that a .30-06 and that was proven by the military when comparing the M1911A1 Handgun and the M1 Garand Rifle. It is as large a caliber tends to get before becoming unsavvy with recoil like the .50 Action Express is.
@AlllamericanQB 30-06-.223,762.xx,7mm,8mm,308..not trying to start shit but these are all rifle rounds and you are VERY wrong to even try and compare a 30-06 or any of these rounds to a .45ACP! Its not even a rifle round!?! 357 mag is far more powerful then 45acp in every way you look at it. Its a fact that 45acp CAN* fall short with penetration. Also you would be a fool to try and hunt any LARGE game with 45acp..I love my GLOCK 21 but it is not as powerful as my 357 or my 10mm!
@LordHumungusFL I know they're rifle rounds, which is why i brought it up. I didnt say anything whatsoever about penetration. I said it can transfer energy which are 2 different things and transfering of energy is a matter of physics. Also, what made you come up with hunting?? i said it was powerful but you won't see people fighting wars with any handgun sir. Also, you can't say a .45 ACP isn't powerful. You can say it is not as powerful as another....but you can't say it is weak
@LordHumungusFL its a powerful round, but not a fast one. it will penetrate more then lets say a 5.56 round would because of bullet weight. Being a subsonic round, i feel doesnt make it "not powerful"
Very good video. But have to ask, what is the outcome of watching the slo-motion video in comparing these two .45 pistols? To my eye, I really don't see any difference. Perhaps I am still old school, but I like seeing the exposed hammer on the 1911 vs. the indicator on the Glock. Again, thanks for you efforts.
The grip I talk about using is a tactical grip for every hand gun not just revolvers,,, its a style that keeps your hands free and clear of the action when your moving around in a tactical style...... Aka cover to cover..... 80% of shooters have the worst bad habbits in shooting cuz they are self tought.... Movies.... You tube videogames.... Airsoft.. lmfao!
@suicideking302 I used to use that grip starting off, now I use a slightly modified version of the one you see in this video. It's a grip that offers more control of the recoil. The grip you described is best used for revolvers only.
@FiveTwoSevenTHR I have not ran any Finite Element Analysis on it myself, but according to Glock and many popular gun shows, they say it does absorb some shock due to the material properties. I can't prove this myself, so take that with a grain of salt.
@FiveTwoSevenTHR Let me clarify. When I say gun shows, I meant like on TV, such as Lock N Loaded, etc. My background is in Mechanical Engineering and a Polymer frame would absorb shock. Not sure if this would reduce recoil but if it did, it would be so small that it would not matter. I am also a Certified Glock Armorer, so I am not some bone head either. lol
@ProxStud Oh, I thought you were talking about the place where people pay good money to walk around and be assaulted by high prices and lies. How does the Glock absorb recoil? Last time I shot a .40 S&W Glock, it was uncomfortable yet my XD-40 is perfectly fine.
@FiveTwoSevenTHR First let me say that the Glock may or may not absorb recoil. I do know that Polymer can and will absorb shock. How much shock is associated with recoil? I have no clue. As for your XD-40 experience, it depends on your hand size, the pistol grips, etc. The XD has a high bore axis in comparison to the Glock, so it should feel snappier in recoil. The lower the bore axis the better recoil control. But if your hand fits the XD better, you may feel it's less recoil for you.
The only 1911's that are similar in price to a glock are generally made in other countries, and don't have the same amount of custom work kimber, dan wesson, wilson combat, etc. put into their guns. Is a 1200-3000 dollar 1911 better then a stock glock? Hell yes. Is a stock glock better then a stock 1911 in the same price range? Hell yes. Could you buy 3 glocks upgraded with night sights, and a surefire light for the price of one wilson combat CQB? hell yes.
@scsettlemire87 That is true. A great debt is owed to John Moses Browning. I hold him with the likes of Nikola Tesla. He was a genius. But today we have different, better materials to make guns with. As far as reliability and accuracy go, every other pistol out there is at best a close second to the GLOCK. When SHTF you want a GLOCK in your hand!
@TheTundrawolf I DONT THINK POLYMER IS A BETTER MATERIAL THAN STEEL, OR ALUMINUM... IT MAY BE DIFFERENT, BUT DEFINETLY NOT "BETTER" I WOULD RATHER HAVE A SIG SAUER, BROWNING HI POWER, 1911, BERRETTA 92, OR A CZ75 IF SHTF ... THE BUDGET MINDED LAW ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT CAN KEEP THEIR GLOCKS
@WestGermanSig I'm not just talking about the polymer.. I am talking about the Tennifer treatment that makes the metal almost as hard as a diamond. The gap between the slide and the frame allows for dirt to escape. The simple and bomb proof firing mechanism. The polygonal rifling. It is like the AK-47 of pistols, but actually very accurate. Dead reliable. No other manufacturer can claim that. Look up the Glock buried for 2 years then pulled out of the ground and fired only being rinsed off.
@opferte If the POLYGONAL rifling was SO GOOD they wouldnt state in the owner manual that it could be fouled and a dangerous situation could happen when firing lead bullets.. Its got the gap cause the tolerences are horrible, and the 4th gen is a complete failure... it has a great finish though....just about ANY decent gun can be burried and fired without doing anything but loading the chamber and pulling the trigger
@WestGermanSig You see, all of the weapons you listed are damn fine weapons, and I would own any of them. But they all have one fatal flaw: They won't operate without lubrication. Look up the Glock fired hundreds of thousands of rounds without cleaning OR lubrication. None of those weapons could do that. The Glock is a superior weapon and it just so happens it is NOT a high priced pistol. Are you going to take a cleaning kit with you when you are forced to leave your house?
@opferte My SIGs go THOUSANDS of rounds without having to clean or relube....maybe of i were to get into a 3000 round gun fight i would be in trouble.....
the 1911 cycles and returns to battery just a hair faster than the glock. I own both, I love both, I shoot the 1911 way more often, and carry it more often than the glock.
@ Gun4Freedom that five shot sp101 is a nice piece had a chance to buy one about 12 years ago but my buddy beat me to it 150$ with leather very very nice gun.
@megustaface 1911's are by far my favorite gun of all time ( by the way John Browning designed it answer your question) but you got to give up to Glocks I have one 9mm as my service weapon wish we would go to .40 cal but that's a different story anyway there easy to field strip and take a beaten and still work great and accurate great gun to transit from .38 revolvers to autos.
I'm kinda impressed to see the 1911 return the next round through the chamber a tad quicker every time. An expert, damn good shooter, or just a lucky shooter this can be a bit of an advantage- competition and so forth. Browning was a hell of a cat, especially with that F/N Browning "oh-no" 9mm that I adore so much. Ciao!
Glock 21 all the way. I was anti-Glock for years, then work sent me to Glock armorers school. We broke the guns on purpose and they "never" stopped firing. Made me a believer! I would trust my life with a Glock any day.
@jjb51207...yup. We are issued Glock model 22. They are tanks. The tests they go through show their reliability. I love 1911s though. When it comes to accuracy...I am dead nuts on with my 1911s. But no matter the climate or terrain the Glock will always prevail. So I carry them both.
a Glock if u ask me was th best as 9mm its leight it was know for its big clip and putting a .45 doesnt just make the clip smaller it takes away the glock feel
@outersun Clip, as in Magazine the thing with the spring thats filled with bullets, i think u understand now, althought with pistols its not really called a clip but everyone calls it that.
I find it amazing that firearms, in general, since J M Browning's design of the slide based, recoil/gas operated pistol, that almost EVERY pistol since has followed suit. From the simple fixed barrel Gas Blow-back to the locked breech, gas operated, rotating lug and tilt barrel assembly of some modern pistols with a variety of assorted functions and features... but they still work the same way. It's funny how a .45acp can cost $99... up to several thousand dollars.
Nicely done and thank you. I would also like to see side by side comparisions with .45 & 9mm out of the Glock, .45 & 9mm out of a 1911, then for grins and giggle, a G21 & 9mm 1911.
@MadeInOregon27 Springfield Armory and colt make excellent 1911s, read up on blogs and watch video reviews and you can learn alot about which 1911 would be best for you.
I personally like the .45 1911 over the glock (just my opinion for self defense)
I have been looking to get a 1911 .45 does anybody know who makes the best one? I was thinking Colt? Also what would you rather get, a 1911 .45 ACP OR a Beretta 92FS Inox? Any info from an expirenced gunman would be great!
was it an all-steel 1911? I figured the 1911 would recoil less due to a heavier frame, but in the video, the recoil difference looked neglible to my untrained eyes.
damn right cappin Simeon. probably a stupid and hard to answer question but how much worse is the recoil on a glock 21 then on a glock 17? thinking of going up on the ol caliber chart... but have pansy hands that dont even like .38 spcl +p out of a ladies S&W snubbie =(
@GunWebsites i normally only shoot 45 acp, and stepping down to a 9 mil feels like a totally different ball game. just saying moving up from 9 to 45 you might not notice a big diff, but going the other way its very noticeable. 45 to 40, negligible.
I own a glock 17, a S&W snubbie and have fired my buddies glock 21 a few times. The 21 does kick more than the 17, no doubt, but it's not uncontrollable. I don't like the snubbie because the handle is just too small. You may find that with the larger more comfy handle of the glock 21 that the kick isn't that big of an issue. I went with the 17 because i only use it for shooting paper and the ammo is cheaper.
I love my 1911, and my g17 - but they aren't the same. The 9mm is much more of a 'snap' and the 45 is more of a 'push.' If that makes sense. I load my own for uspsa and I shot a little lighter than factory rounds and you can really play w/ the recoil w/ different powders.
@BigSean1992 If it is a J frame s&w it'll sting with just about anything, they weigh around 14 ounces loaded. A heavier pistol, like a 1911 comes in at ~30-40 ounces and really makes recoil easier to deal with. My 27 ounce sp101 3" firing .357 mags is servicable for me, when I tried the same thing in a s&w that weighed 1/2 as much it got real uncomfortable real quick. I shot my buddys' springfield xd .40 that was the same weight as my revolver and it was fine. Try it out first.
@BigSean1992 Modern JHPs in 9mm and .45ACP perform pretty much the same in ballistic gelatin. The reduced cost of 9mm combined with lower recoil for faster followup shots and higher capacity are good reason to stay with what you already have.
@BigSean1992 The .45 has more recoil. How much more is different for a lot of people. Might I suggest a trip to the range to shoot one? If you like it, buy one, because the .45 is one of the best self defense rounds you can get.
If you can do a push up, you can shoot a .45 acp. The thin grip on a 1911 would also be helpful in keeping a death grip on the gun without being squirrly.
I've shot both. The 21 is a heckofa shooter. Very accurate and very soft shooting. The Kimber can be crazy accurate though with a bit more trigger time.
Glocks feed all t ypes of ammo (reliable) and comes right out of the box shooting fine. The 1911 needs work and is outdated. The 1911 feels better in size and grip.
Looks like the 1911 had slightly less recoil. How would you guys compare the SF frame on the 21 to the standard size frame? I personally found the standard size frame on a Glock 21/20 to be too fat for my medium sized hands. Although I'm not really interested in a Glock in .45, the 10mm 20 really appeals to me because I already shoot a shitload of 10mm out of my S&W 1006.
I think it's very subjective in real life at normal speed.. but the cameras don't lie.. in this case it seems like as close to a tie as could be measured (for this shooter at least)
Strange, the glock appears to run smoother in slowmo.
Never shot the model 21, only 22, 17, and 23. Own the 20, and it's one of the most comfortable shooting of the bunch for some reason. Not sure why but the initial recoil impulse seems much lower and softer than any other gun I've shot. It does have a wallop to the palm, but the impulse feels very even and "slowed down" compared to the 22, which is much more snappy.
Good video guys. I personally think by what I saw in this video, that they are equal. But that is due to the skill and training of the shooter. Of course that is my opinion.
@GunWebsites i actually havent authorized your last few vids...and yet you put them up...this cannot be allowed to continue (but yeah thanks for the vidz guys)
The 1911 has been tested in several wars from 1911 to the present, over 100 years old and still rockin! You cannot beat the all steel manufactured gun!
This is the perfect example of what Todd Jarrett was talking about in his shooting course. That muzzle ends up pointing about 20 feet over the initial shot.
Hum, Glock has more rounds, but 1911 feels great in most people's hands. Both are reliable, though 1911 can jam on the last round if your mag is worn out. Glock is lighter, which means easier to carry, but the heft of the 1911 makes recoil a smooth push rather then a snap.....ugg, I can not decide! lol. I am sure I am not the only one with that problem.
Couldn't tell much difference. I want to know how it feels. Had a glock 23 for years, never could get used to it. Finally went back to my 19. I've been told the .45 has less recoil in the glocks...
John Browning Wins!!!
harpoclarx 2 days ago
@sharqus, not aware that there is a gen4 model 21 available yet so I'd say gen3
ssykes80 3 days ago
I'm not a fan of either manufacturer.
Let's face it folks, there are tons of companies making guns nowdays.
Some aren't worth the metal use to build them and some are the near model of perfection.
Personaly I prefer my taurus PT 809 9mm for two reasons. It's reasonable price and it accurate.
Lets just agree to disagree......
By the way I carry the Hornady 147gr TAP FPD rounds so save the 9mm doesnt have stopping power comments.
thank you.
BR0KENT0YS0LDIER 4 days ago
@BR0KENT0YS0LDIER can not beat .45 stopping power. Also, i get so many returns and trade ins of the pt 809 i dont sell or buy them anymore. You can not beat Glock reliability. I will always stock and sell 1911's and glocks.
TopTierFirearms 2 days ago
I've shot both. Prefer the 1911 way more. Glocks just feel like you have to wrestle with them to get back on target.
thegizmoguy1 5 days ago
Question...I've got smaller hands, the traditional 21 is a bit large. How does the SF stack up? Any help would be appreciated!
MyRagingPwner 1 week ago
@MyRagingPwner I Just bought a 21SF and the hand grip feels so much more comfortable and makes it feel like you have more control when firing. Definitely worth it.
Beachluvr28 1 week ago
What gen glock?
SharQus 3 weeks ago
I dnt like glock 9mm or and 9mm only 45s for me please :)
mw3L3GITSniper 1 month ago
The video is informative and awesome. Hooray for consistency.
This just goes to show that in 100 years, the same cartridge performs the same on high end/low friction pistols, but the newer 40 S&W is more practical. I know of a few 45 ACP cartridges that have performances that are insane... but you need a +P+ rated pistol.
The video is still awesome.
NoahLDiamond 1 month ago
good recoil management!
hater92gt 1 month ago
the right thumb is akimbo. that should be straight pointing front
diosdadoapias 1 month ago
Good grip!
easdem 1 month ago
This was how I was trained to hold a pistol but that little lip on the side of the 1911's slide makes my left hand thumb nail terrified.
FastRedPonyCar 1 month ago
@FastRedPonyCar you do not know how to hold a pistol. you are the one complaining for that not others.
diosdadoapias 1 month ago
@nikolascote shut the f*** up u troll, I bet u can't even afford a glock t(-.-t)
boatnhoes545 1 month ago
one of these days your gonna take that slide to your hand
BLAZEDGODD 1 month ago
@BLAZEDGODD your an idiot.
SNIPERSTEVE420 1 month ago 2
wow, how many fingers, thumbs and sweaty palms can one person wrap around a pistol?!
WrathofWotan 1 month ago
@WrathofWotan would you perfer it on handed gang banger styler so the shooter cant hit anything?
SNIPERSTEVE420 1 month ago
finally someone with good grip.
m221201r 1 month ago
Heh, I didn't see the Obama ads... anyway great video.
iluv2viddyfilms 1 month ago
Why is Obama running ads during this video???
o5iiawah 1 month ago
@o5iiawah Because Obama loves guns ;)
PANT3RA 1 month ago
It always seemed counter intuitive that a 1911 would be easier for multiple shots in quick succession, but the slow motion shows what might be the reason: the heavier slide, and stronger spring, push the weapon back into battery faster and with more force. The recoil might be a little more exaggerated, but when the slide comes back it pushes the weapon back to the original point of aim. Cool video.
reddog418 1 month ago 2
.45acp is NOT a powerful round. Look it up.But id still trust my life with a .45 any day over a 9mm,.380 or,38 for a human target.
LordHumungusFL 2 months ago
@LordHumungusFL WTF do you mean it's not? what are you measuring powerful as? what do YOU define it as, in all honesty of course? Because when it comes to semi-automatic handgun rounds the .45 Automatic Colt Pistol round is devastating. It is able to transfer more energy that a .30-06 and that was proven by the military when comparing the M1911A1 Handgun and the M1 Garand Rifle. It is as large a caliber tends to get before becoming unsavvy with recoil like the .50 Action Express is.
AlllamericanQB 1 month ago
@AlllamericanQB 30-06-.223,762.xx,7mm,8mm,308..not trying to start shit but these are all rifle rounds and you are VERY wrong to even try and compare a 30-06 or any of these rounds to a .45ACP! Its not even a rifle round!?! 357 mag is far more powerful then 45acp in every way you look at it. Its a fact that 45acp CAN* fall short with penetration. Also you would be a fool to try and hunt any LARGE game with 45acp..I love my GLOCK 21 but it is not as powerful as my 357 or my 10mm!
LordHumungusFL 1 month ago
@LordHumungusFL I know they're rifle rounds, which is why i brought it up. I didnt say anything whatsoever about penetration. I said it can transfer energy which are 2 different things and transfering of energy is a matter of physics. Also, what made you come up with hunting?? i said it was powerful but you won't see people fighting wars with any handgun sir. Also, you can't say a .45 ACP isn't powerful. You can say it is not as powerful as another....but you can't say it is weak
AlllamericanQB 1 month ago
@LordHumungusFL its a powerful round, but not a fast one. it will penetrate more then lets say a 5.56 round would because of bullet weight. Being a subsonic round, i feel doesnt make it "not powerful"
fitbmxseries1 1 month ago
...... Okay, Who Would dislike this video. "Oh, guns are bad" ...
SpifySpy 2 months ago
less muzzle rise with the Glock at least with this shooter.
cardude365 2 months ago
1911 is my all time favorite pistol
MrVoorhees88 2 months ago
Very good video. But have to ask, what is the outcome of watching the slo-motion video in comparing these two .45 pistols? To my eye, I really don't see any difference. Perhaps I am still old school, but I like seeing the exposed hammer on the 1911 vs. the indicator on the Glock. Again, thanks for you efforts.
MaxCruise73 2 months ago 2
The grip I talk about using is a tactical grip for every hand gun not just revolvers,,, its a style that keeps your hands free and clear of the action when your moving around in a tactical style...... Aka cover to cover..... 80% of shooters have the worst bad habbits in shooting cuz they are self tought.... Movies.... You tube videogames.... Airsoft.. lmfao!
suicideking302 2 months ago
GLOCK ALL THE WAY!!!
ezikual55 2 months ago
left thumb over right thumb!!! lock it down!!! if it doesnt feel right then maybe your a lefty!!!
suicideking302 2 months ago
@suicideking302 I used to use that grip starting off, now I use a slightly modified version of the one you see in this video. It's a grip that offers more control of the recoil. The grip you described is best used for revolvers only.
FiveTwoSevenTHR 2 months ago
i cant stand people doing that with thier thumbs!!!
suicideking302 2 months ago
@suicideking302 agreed
ezikual55 2 months ago
lets read the comments for some grand ol glock v 1911 talk
michu070 2 months ago
Let's not forget that the Polymer frame on the Glock absorbs recoil as well.
ProxStud 2 months ago
@ProxStud No it doesn't.
FiveTwoSevenTHR 2 months ago
@FiveTwoSevenTHR I have not ran any Finite Element Analysis on it myself, but according to Glock and many popular gun shows, they say it does absorb some shock due to the material properties. I can't prove this myself, so take that with a grain of salt.
ProxStud 2 months ago
@ProxStud Gun shows are the last place you would want to find info. lol.
FiveTwoSevenTHR 2 months ago
@FiveTwoSevenTHR Let me clarify. When I say gun shows, I meant like on TV, such as Lock N Loaded, etc. My background is in Mechanical Engineering and a Polymer frame would absorb shock. Not sure if this would reduce recoil but if it did, it would be so small that it would not matter. I am also a Certified Glock Armorer, so I am not some bone head either. lol
ProxStud 2 months ago
@ProxStud Oh, I thought you were talking about the place where people pay good money to walk around and be assaulted by high prices and lies. How does the Glock absorb recoil? Last time I shot a .40 S&W Glock, it was uncomfortable yet my XD-40 is perfectly fine.
FiveTwoSevenTHR 2 months ago
@FiveTwoSevenTHR First let me say that the Glock may or may not absorb recoil. I do know that Polymer can and will absorb shock. How much shock is associated with recoil? I have no clue. As for your XD-40 experience, it depends on your hand size, the pistol grips, etc. The XD has a high bore axis in comparison to the Glock, so it should feel snappier in recoil. The lower the bore axis the better recoil control. But if your hand fits the XD better, you may feel it's less recoil for you.
ProxStud 2 months ago
Enter Norinco for those who are Feeling the Strain of Expensive Hardware!
benny8hill 2 months ago
The only 1911's that are similar in price to a glock are generally made in other countries, and don't have the same amount of custom work kimber, dan wesson, wilson combat, etc. put into their guns. Is a 1200-3000 dollar 1911 better then a stock glock? Hell yes. Is a stock glock better then a stock 1911 in the same price range? Hell yes. Could you buy 3 glocks upgraded with night sights, and a surefire light for the price of one wilson combat CQB? hell yes.
oipolloi87 2 months ago
Why 1911 ?
Well, Glocks Didn't Kill Nazi's
scsettlemire87 2 months ago 2
@scsettlemire87 That is true. A great debt is owed to John Moses Browning. I hold him with the likes of Nikola Tesla. He was a genius. But today we have different, better materials to make guns with. As far as reliability and accuracy go, every other pistol out there is at best a close second to the GLOCK. When SHTF you want a GLOCK in your hand!
TheTundrawolf 2 months ago
@TheTundrawolf I DONT THINK POLYMER IS A BETTER MATERIAL THAN STEEL, OR ALUMINUM... IT MAY BE DIFFERENT, BUT DEFINETLY NOT "BETTER" I WOULD RATHER HAVE A SIG SAUER, BROWNING HI POWER, 1911, BERRETTA 92, OR A CZ75 IF SHTF ... THE BUDGET MINDED LAW ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT CAN KEEP THEIR GLOCKS
WestGermanSig 2 months ago
@WestGermanSig I'm not just talking about the polymer.. I am talking about the Tennifer treatment that makes the metal almost as hard as a diamond. The gap between the slide and the frame allows for dirt to escape. The simple and bomb proof firing mechanism. The polygonal rifling. It is like the AK-47 of pistols, but actually very accurate. Dead reliable. No other manufacturer can claim that. Look up the Glock buried for 2 years then pulled out of the ground and fired only being rinsed off.
opferte 2 months ago
@opferte If the POLYGONAL rifling was SO GOOD they wouldnt state in the owner manual that it could be fouled and a dangerous situation could happen when firing lead bullets.. Its got the gap cause the tolerences are horrible, and the 4th gen is a complete failure... it has a great finish though....just about ANY decent gun can be burried and fired without doing anything but loading the chamber and pulling the trigger
WestGermanSig 2 months ago
@WestGermanSig You see, all of the weapons you listed are damn fine weapons, and I would own any of them. But they all have one fatal flaw: They won't operate without lubrication. Look up the Glock fired hundreds of thousands of rounds without cleaning OR lubrication. None of those weapons could do that. The Glock is a superior weapon and it just so happens it is NOT a high priced pistol. Are you going to take a cleaning kit with you when you are forced to leave your house?
opferte 2 months ago
@opferte My SIGs go THOUSANDS of rounds without having to clean or relube....maybe of i were to get into a 3000 round gun fight i would be in trouble.....
WestGermanSig 2 months ago
@opferte Really.... leave the house with a cleaning kit.... dont be ridiculous
WestGermanSig 2 months ago
glock = disgusting. it belongs in the kitchen with the other tupperware.
nikolascote 3 months ago
@mopar92
lol
GunWebsites 3 months ago
With a guide rod the 1911 is better......... Come on the 1911 is a hundred years old ....
1IImrxII1 3 months ago
the 1911 cycles and returns to battery just a hair faster than the glock. I own both, I love both, I shoot the 1911 way more often, and carry it more often than the glock.
kageoftheshadow 3 months ago
@ Gun4Freedom that five shot sp101 is a nice piece had a chance to buy one about 12 years ago but my buddy beat me to it 150$ with leather very very nice gun.
cocch2478 3 months ago
@SupremeAmerican the grip does suck on Glocks and you don't have many choices I use a Hogue grip on my gen two g19 it helps
cocch2478 3 months ago
@megustaface 1911's are by far my favorite gun of all time ( by the way John Browning designed it answer your question) but you got to give up to Glocks I have one 9mm as my service weapon wish we would go to .40 cal but that's a different story anyway there easy to field strip and take a beaten and still work great and accurate great gun to transit from .38 revolvers to autos.
cocch2478 3 months ago
or is that what you are shooting? now that i really look at it...
charmichealfan64 3 months ago
colt .45 special combat government addition any day. i know thats not what colt u r shooting, im just sayin
charmichealfan64 3 months ago
I'm kinda impressed to see the 1911 return the next round through the chamber a tad quicker every time. An expert, damn good shooter, or just a lucky shooter this can be a bit of an advantage- competition and so forth. Browning was a hell of a cat, especially with that F/N Browning "oh-no" 9mm that I adore so much. Ciao!
outersun 3 months ago
Glock 21 all the way. I was anti-Glock for years, then work sent me to Glock armorers school. We broke the guns on purpose and they "never" stopped firing. Made me a believer! I would trust my life with a Glock any day.
jjb51207 3 months ago
@jjb51207...yup. We are issued Glock model 22. They are tanks. The tests they go through show their reliability. I love 1911s though. When it comes to accuracy...I am dead nuts on with my 1911s. But no matter the climate or terrain the Glock will always prevail. So I carry them both.
AdolfOliverTitsov 1 week ago
John Moses Browning was a genius!!
azasadny 3 months ago
a Glock if u ask me was th best as 9mm its leight it was know for its big clip and putting a .45 doesnt just make the clip smaller it takes away the glock feel
MrJugoG4life 3 months ago
@MrJugoG4life 45 is better than 9mm. 1911 is more accurate than glock, even the cheap 1911's.
SupremeAmerican 3 months ago
@SupremeAmerican i never said it wsnt i totally agree but a .45 Glock feels weird thats what i said...
MrJugoG4life 3 months ago
@MrJugoG4life thats cuz of poorly designed grip of glock
SupremeAmerican 3 months ago
@MrJugoG4life What's a clip? Paper clip? Movie Ciip? I'm just confused!
outersun 3 months ago
@outersun Clip, as in Magazine the thing with the spring thats filled with bullets, i think u understand now, althought with pistols its not really called a clip but everyone calls it that.
MrJugoG4life 3 months ago
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outersun 3 months ago
I always perfered 1911's over Glocks...Glocks just feel cheap to me.
MercuryMorrison1 4 months ago
I'm always amazed watching a gun cycle. Such a cool piece of machinery.
I don't know why I am so entertained by them. Whoever designed the first semi auto was a smart dude.
megustaface 4 months ago 26
@megustaface
I know what you mean
GunWebsites 4 months ago 9
@megustaface just fyi his name was john colt reminggton winchester browning :)
toob247 3 months ago
@megustaface John Moses Browning might not have been the first, but he was the best.
ByRecentDesign 3 months ago
@megustaface
I find it amazing that firearms, in general, since J M Browning's design of the slide based, recoil/gas operated pistol, that almost EVERY pistol since has followed suit. From the simple fixed barrel Gas Blow-back to the locked breech, gas operated, rotating lug and tilt barrel assembly of some modern pistols with a variety of assorted functions and features... but they still work the same way. It's funny how a .45acp can cost $99... up to several thousand dollars.
NoahLDiamond 3 months ago
@megustaface I'm not sure he was first, but john browning was a genius.
TehBloodyYank556 2 months ago
@megustaface i think we can thank MR.Browning for that but im not 100% shure
WolfPackAttack1911 1 month ago
@megustaface Mesmerizing, indeed.
TonechannelTV 1 month ago
how about the steel frame glock CCF 39.38oz
turboMATRIX03 4 months ago
Nicely done and thank you. I would also like to see side by side comparisions with .45 & 9mm out of the Glock, .45 & 9mm out of a 1911, then for grins and giggle, a G21 & 9mm 1911.
DeadeyeSteve 4 months ago
@MadeInOregon27 Springfield Armory and colt make excellent 1911s, read up on blogs and watch video reviews and you can learn alot about which 1911 would be best for you.
TheHammerNews 4 months ago
I personally like the .45 1911 over the glock (just my opinion for self defense)
I have been looking to get a 1911 .45 does anybody know who makes the best one? I was thinking Colt? Also what would you rather get, a 1911 .45 ACP OR a Beretta 92FS Inox? Any info from an expirenced gunman would be great!
MadeInOregon27 4 months ago
The 1911 seems to have a faster slide. The recoil seems to be the same. Let's see what happens when you shoot with a limp wrist.
mikeb1444 4 months ago
1911 gets you back on target much smoother and faster imo
nme4u2nv 4 months ago
thats exactly what the .45 does to the hand.
SuperRip7 5 months ago
Wow, this shows how much difference a good grip can give you - the muzzle was basically back down as the slide finished cycling.
John234pwns 5 months ago
I have large hands but I like my 21 sf never hade a problem it's the gun for me if I can carry a full size
My custom kimber got rid of the dame thing never worked right jammed every time
Not that I don't like 1911 great system I have my grandpas from ww11 works every time still all original
pigmanjojo 6 months ago
The only differences that I can see are:
1. the shooter has a better grip on the glock than the colt(a very subtle observation)
2. there is a higher muzzle climb on the colt than the glock
3. the casings are thrown higher on the colt than the glock
markknife1 7 months ago
Glock 21 = awesome shooter !!!!
maddoo2008 7 months ago
was it an all-steel 1911? I figured the 1911 would recoil less due to a heavier frame, but in the video, the recoil difference looked neglible to my untrained eyes.
mkygod 7 months ago 9
@mkygod
a lot of that is from his strong shooting grip
GunWebsites 7 months ago 4
@GunWebsites How does he get it I wonder. I mean such strong grip. hmmm????
angelface22322 2 months ago
Wow, that was a very nicely done side by side, Good job guys!
skylined12 7 months ago
Thats a fine grip, there.
wedvarn 7 months ago
damn right cappin Simeon. probably a stupid and hard to answer question but how much worse is the recoil on a glock 21 then on a glock 17? thinking of going up on the ol caliber chart... but have pansy hands that dont even like .38 spcl +p out of a ladies S&W snubbie =(
BigSean1992 7 months ago
@BigSean1992
IMO 45acp is not too much worse than 9mm, worth a try
GunWebsites 7 months ago 5
@GunWebsites i normally only shoot 45 acp, and stepping down to a 9 mil feels like a totally different ball game. just saying moving up from 9 to 45 you might not notice a big diff, but going the other way its very noticeable. 45 to 40, negligible.
jjaek 4 months ago
@BigSean1992 Glock 21 is soft shooting. Some like the recoil better then the on the 17. .38spcl +p out of a J frame is a hand full for anyone.
wastool 7 months ago
@BigSean1992
I own a glock 17, a S&W snubbie and have fired my buddies glock 21 a few times. The 21 does kick more than the 17, no doubt, but it's not uncontrollable. I don't like the snubbie because the handle is just too small. You may find that with the larger more comfy handle of the glock 21 that the kick isn't that big of an issue. I went with the 17 because i only use it for shooting paper and the ammo is cheaper.
Imjony5 5 months ago
@BigSean1992
I agree w/ gunwebsites.
I love my 1911, and my g17 - but they aren't the same. The 9mm is much more of a 'snap' and the 45 is more of a 'push.' If that makes sense. I load my own for uspsa and I shot a little lighter than factory rounds and you can really play w/ the recoil w/ different powders.
tjby54 4 months ago
@BigSean1992 If it is a J frame s&w it'll sting with just about anything, they weigh around 14 ounces loaded. A heavier pistol, like a 1911 comes in at ~30-40 ounces and really makes recoil easier to deal with. My 27 ounce sp101 3" firing .357 mags is servicable for me, when I tried the same thing in a s&w that weighed 1/2 as much it got real uncomfortable real quick. I shot my buddys' springfield xd .40 that was the same weight as my revolver and it was fine. Try it out first.
Gun4Freedom 4 months ago
@BigSean1992 Modern JHPs in 9mm and .45ACP perform pretty much the same in ballistic gelatin. The reduced cost of 9mm combined with lower recoil for faster followup shots and higher capacity are good reason to stay with what you already have.
chopinbloc 2 months ago
@BigSean1992 The .45 has more recoil. How much more is different for a lot of people. Might I suggest a trip to the range to shoot one? If you like it, buy one, because the .45 is one of the best self defense rounds you can get.
TheTundrawolf 2 months ago
@BigSean1992
If you can do a push up, you can shoot a .45 acp. The thin grip on a 1911 would also be helpful in keeping a death grip on the gun without being squirrly.
mikeb1444 2 months ago
I've shot both. The 21 is a heckofa shooter. Very accurate and very soft shooting. The Kimber can be crazy accurate though with a bit more trigger time.
sungwei9 7 months ago
nice
jmmurdy 7 months ago
Glocks feed all t ypes of ammo (reliable) and comes right out of the box shooting fine. The 1911 needs work and is outdated. The 1911 feels better in size and grip.
microminiskirt 7 months ago
Nicely done buddy
Heinzyismyname 7 months ago
1911: Tried, true, withstood the test of time
Glock: ....meh.
TheBlueManChoo 7 months ago
Looked like the Kimber jammed at one point. Did I see that right???? Gotta go with the glock mang.
foosfighter1 7 months ago
1911 FTW!!! GLOCKS SUCK THEY'RE NOTHING MORE THAN A MAG FED GRENADE!
jims72 7 months ago
@jims72
*face hoof*
Sometimes I worry about you ¬_¬
BlankPicketSign 5 months ago
Looks like the 1911 had slightly less recoil. How would you guys compare the SF frame on the 21 to the standard size frame? I personally found the standard size frame on a Glock 21/20 to be too fat for my medium sized hands. Although I'm not really interested in a Glock in .45, the 10mm 20 really appeals to me because I already shoot a shitload of 10mm out of my S&W 1006.
gunzablazin01 7 months ago
@gunzablazin01
it's a small difference, so I doubt any performance is different between the two
Almost everyone I know says the SF is more comfortable though
GunWebsites 7 months ago
Seems to me like the 1911 had less flip and got back on target faster with less secondary bouncing. Does that jive with what you experienced?
TheYankeeMarshal 7 months ago
@TheYankeeMarshal
I think it's very subjective in real life at normal speed.. but the cameras don't lie.. in this case it seems like as close to a tie as could be measured (for this shooter at least)
GunWebsites 7 months ago
honestly, they looked pretty equal comparing the difference in grip angle and size of the two.
then again, the 1911 platform is the most controllable i've shot personally..
nice video!
FIVE50inc 7 months ago
kooooooool.
URBANAMERICANTAC 7 months ago
Strange, the glock appears to run smoother in slowmo.
Never shot the model 21, only 22, 17, and 23. Own the 20, and it's one of the most comfortable shooting of the bunch for some reason. Not sure why but the initial recoil impulse seems much lower and softer than any other gun I've shot. It does have a wallop to the palm, but the impulse feels very even and "slowed down" compared to the 22, which is much more snappy.
skyhop 7 months ago
Good video guys. I personally think by what I saw in this video, that they are equal. But that is due to the skill and training of the shooter. Of course that is my opinion.
Jadedm3 7 months ago
@Jadedm3
very true, it would be interesting to see various shooters with the same pistol, to see the variance between them
GunWebsites 7 months ago
@GunWebsites I think you just found another idea for a video. :)
Jadedm3 7 months ago
gotta go with the kimber
Blk05titan26 7 months ago
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Blk05titan26 7 months ago
aww. the glock is cute
bobbyglomp 7 months ago
@bobbyglomp ROFL!!!!!
ricksn777 7 months ago
The one chambered in .45acp won hands down.
ProGunTexan 7 months ago 8
@ProGunTexan
nice
GunWebsites 7 months ago
@ProGunTexan always does...
adamk1775 7 months ago
quick question, and may be due to the angle, but wont the slide catch his raised fingers gripping it that way? just curious...thanks ^.^
poodlemeister22314 7 months ago
@poodlemeister22314
nope
GunWebsites 7 months ago
Glock had less recoil even though it's lighter?
Five00700 7 months ago
what was the point of this exactly?
MrChandlerhodge 7 months ago
@MrChandlerhodge
The same can be asked of your comment.
ReaperAZ 7 months ago
@ReaperAZ
well said, thanks
GunWebsites 7 months ago
The Model 1911 for the win!!!
Thanks for the video
MrColt45acp 7 months ago 13
@MrColt45acp
I think you might be biased, LOL
GunWebsites 7 months ago 9
they look to be the same but ill still take a 1911
groundzero94 7 months ago
Sorry,but i saw no point on this video..both are awesome weapons in my humble opinion..one just cost more than the other.
voogun 7 months ago
@voogun
we will be sure to pass every video to you for approval then comrade
GunWebsites 7 months ago 4
@GunWebsites i actually havent authorized your last few vids...and yet you put them up...this cannot be allowed to continue (but yeah thanks for the vidz guys)
Lvl22nerd 7 months ago
Looks like the slide would catch your thumb. But that's just me...
mossy500camo 7 months ago
The 1911 has been tested in several wars from 1911 to the present, over 100 years old and still rockin! You cannot beat the all steel manufactured gun!
stephenabm 7 months ago
looks the same. nice grip on each of the pistols.
lisolangka 7 months ago
@lisolangka
he is a good shooter, made the recoil look light
GunWebsites 7 months ago
Looks about the same to me. Perhaps an experience shooter negates the difference in recoil.
sprkthead2 7 months ago
@sprkthead2
good point
GunWebsites 7 months ago
1911 is Gods Pistol... nuff said.
ken71607 7 months ago
"Where does he get those wonderful Quotes?" *Joker laughter* lol
Jon38 7 months ago
The Glock is the quintessential 80's Toyota pick up truck...no matter what you do to it, it just plain works.
The 1911 is like a Muscle Car...requires a bit more "attention" to keep it running, but if done properly will run like a champ.
ReaperAZ 7 months ago
Plastic vs metal :)
ArtisanTony 7 months ago
it looks to me like the 1911 returns to the target more quickly than the glock.
schnips074 7 months ago
This is the perfect example of what Todd Jarrett was talking about in his shooting course. That muzzle ends up pointing about 20 feet over the initial shot.
Doccarson 7 months ago
I've only shot a luger a shotgun and a m4...My life sucks :(
willmarano2 7 months ago
that is not what i expect to see from a "high speed camera" D'; Thumbs Down D:
wax147 7 months ago
@wax147
exactly what we expect from YT comments though ...
GunWebsites 7 months ago 9
@GunWebsites haven't you seen other videos that show footage taken with high speed cameras or what? T.T
wax147 7 months ago
@wax147
I have seen babys cry, I've seen puppy dogs pee, and now I've seen your foolish demands..
But I haven't seen the cash for a new camera from you.. when do you plan to send it?
GunWebsites 7 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@GunWebsites if you take a peek at my comments you will see that im not demanding anything. just sayin'
wax147 7 months ago
Hum, Glock has more rounds, but 1911 feels great in most people's hands. Both are reliable, though 1911 can jam on the last round if your mag is worn out. Glock is lighter, which means easier to carry, but the heft of the 1911 makes recoil a smooth push rather then a snap.....ugg, I can not decide! lol. I am sure I am not the only one with that problem.
Jesses001 7 months ago
@Jesses001 try deciding between the hk45 and the sig 226. That's what I'm going through. :(
MarksmanLeBlanc 7 months ago
Couldn't tell much difference. I want to know how it feels. Had a glock 23 for years, never could get used to it. Finally went back to my 19. I've been told the .45 has less recoil in the glocks...
waypasthadenough 7 months ago