"Way fo the Winds" is a concept (ya kno move like the wind and ect which is y the h2h stuff is very wind like) because the element wind is very devistating and the Way of the Winds Ninjustu created by Duncan is a complete blend of the traditional MA he studied along with the styles of Ninjutsu he has studied. He blended n molded the system 2 meet the realities of todays world. Now i cant prove he trained in ninjutsu i can list the if u give me ur email n show u 1st hand the styles he claim 2 kno
actuall there is one other guy thats the oldest i dont know his name but hes in several demonstrations with ducan in ninja magazine and karate magazine that guy train with duncan in 64' or 65', as i posted on another video somewhere loreiga and vasquez trained in 66' but again the ninja boom didnt occure until the mid 1970s. An when ducan started first teaching ninjutsu in 64 0r 65 it was only taught to his senior students the rest of it was just martial arts like jujutsu and kobojutsu
is that the new tread lol "low class ninjutsu" no1 started you's that phrase until steven used it in his video he just made about lock picking.
That is kawakami in the video (seminar video) give me ur email address i'll send u some photo's.
No clue i honestly dont kno who his ninjutsu instructors are but that doesnt mean he's fake. he has studied several ninjutsu styles. as for it being low class i dont know if thats a approprate statement
@Creationsofmyown funny, im willing to show u pictures of the seminar and prove to u thats kawakami u wanna just o well the camera man said its not him? that doesnt make sense, and goes against wut u said to b4
"im willing to view and discuss all sides of the matter"(paraphrase).
I would be willing to list some ninjutsu ryu he claims to kno
@Creationsofmyown no the video i posted above is kiyomoto and some other guy performing bujutsu i sent u this video watch?v=dnxT4ffZV78 (which is the one im talking bout right now) to show u the sounds and movements being made, and compare them to the sounds and movements at the seminar. now the seminar videos u have kawakami has the sword and kiyomoto has the rings, the kasuri gama. i have always maintained kawakami n kiyomoto in the seminar so wut needs clearification?
the ninjutsu portion was when they asked questions bout his linage and ect..For ninjutsu he did demonstrate breathing techniques an walking skills n on other thing but most of it was a oral presentation. im sorry if it doesnt meet to ur satisfaction but those are the facts take em or leave em
first off duncan never claimed to learn ninjutsu from Don Draeger and has certainly never laid claim to knowing Fujita's Wada Ha style of ninjutsu so i dont kno wut ur talking bout. Duncan trained with Don in judo while in the marine corps
"first off duncan never claimed to learn ninjutsu from Don Draeger"
really it was on his webpage for a while.... or you could deny evidence in print. or just ANSWER the questions i asked... what ryu is it? and WHO is the teacher who has otherwise elluded being named.
"and has certainly never laid claim to knowing Fujita's Wada Ha style of ninjutsu so i dont kno wut ur talking bout. Duncan trained with Don in judo while in the marine corps"
" never ever was it on his website did it state he learned ninjutsu from don draeger"
thats a broad proclamation. you go through time for that? or do you just KNOW that he has never admitted it and only lets his flunkies put it in his mouth....
" im sorry its just not true if it was id admite it."like you lie about the rest... sure.
"@Arteanor never claimed to learn ninjutsu in panama either thats totally false,"
@Creationsofmyown i have crossfire magazine lol panama says nothing bout ninjutsu my dude panama he learned boxing. Which shows u obviously dont have that magazine or never even seen it. I read ebudo comments n bullshido comments, all of it is slander an they shoould be ashamed of themselfs. if u look at ebudo all r bujinkan, genbukan wats that tell u ?
" if u look at ebudo all r bujinkan, genbukan wats that tell u ?"
that they are just like you.
that they only look at the evidence so far as creating a semantic argument in which it appears as if they have already proven their point, this is simply a multi level assertion, and i will not be the platform for it.
prove your claims of duncan learning ninjutsu, ESPECIALLY the claim he was teaching it in 1964...
"I would be willing to list some ninjutsu ryu he claims to kno
funny, i just directly asked you to do that.... how many times are you going to say you are willing instead of actually SHOWING the things you claim to have...
or PROVING the claims being made... none of these should be difficult to manage .... and all are easily verifiable...
James loriega atested he taught ninjutsu at the time Felix Vasquez Atested the same the thing two of his oldest and most senior students i will provide u a video with them saying so
"u have no prove hes fake and wuts dispicable is how u SlANDER the man with lies and things that never happend and arent truth "
"ur ignorant u have seen 3 mins in total of the seminar u dont even kno thats kawakami in the video, but ur gonna talk shit like, when clearly u kno nutin "
i have shown here that you in fact DID make the claim this was kawakami in the video. you have failed to cover your lie.
so who is his teacher? what style? why is it such low class ninjutsu
@Creationsofmyown Yes I m a proud member of the bujinkan.I believe Hatsumi Sensei bro.It`s like being a christian.Even tho there is no concrete evidence that Jesus is the son of god.People still believe.Because why?They have faith.As I have faith that Takamatsu Sensei was what he said he was.What do u mean Hatsumi Sensei mastered a few other martial arts b4training with Takamatsu.In judo n karate.Why do u dislike the bujinkan n Hatsumi so much?U either have faith or u don`t.And in this case I do
@Creationsofmyown Where did Takamatsu say they didn`t or don`t exsist.Send me a message.With all of ur info on this.I will ask a few people that no more about this then me.I luv training n I luv ninpo.Whether u or other people out there that think Hatsumi isn`t legit n isn`t what he claims2b.It doesn`t matter2me.I no how the art makes me feel n itz like no other martial art I`ve ever felt b4.Whether itz real or not.Therez sumthing about it that keeps me going n keeps me training n keeps me happy
he told the bugei ryuha daijiten that he recieved a kuden transmission, and watatani didn't believe him despite their being friends because he didn't have any paperwork for it.
".I luv training n I luv ninpo"
that is a good thing, nobody is saying you should quit the buj, but that doesnt make it ninjutsu..
"It doesn`t matter2me.I no how the art makes me feel n itz like no other martial art I`ve ever felt b4"
@Creationsofmy Well in my heart in my eyes in my mind.I feel it is my friend.I don`t really like sayin I do nin-jutsu.Cause nin-jutsu isn`t really a martial art.Thats more on the lines of spying n espinoge.I like2say I train in ninpo-tai jutsu.And samurai were ninja.So like what does it matter if itz not confimed as a koryu?If the actual fighting techniques were past down within the lineage.What does it matter?There are plenty of traditional arts that aren`t koryu.So what does it really matter?
"Cause nin-jutsu isn`t really a martial art.Thats more on the lines of spying n espinoge."
thanks i taught u that. i am also arteanor. thanks for fighting tooth and nail against the idea until you thought you could incorporate your fake ninja school into it....
"I like2say I train in ninpo-tai jutsu" i'll bet you do.
it doesn't make your school connected to shinobi in any way, EVER!!
@Creationsofmyown U didn`t tell me any of that.Show me the proof that takamatsu made it up.Why don`t go down 2 Hatsumi`s dojo n tell him what u think.Call him a lier and a bullshiter 2 his face.Instead of talkin yo shit 2 his students.Alls ur sayin is hear say.So me the proof..
@Creationsofmyown Ur makin this big deal of this shit.I can care less.I have a life outside of of youtube.Unlike u it seemz like.This is ur life goal.I`ll help u pay 4 a plane ticket 2come2 where I live.U sound like u just need ur ass kicked.And to get laid.I can help u out with both.I no sum whores who will fuc anyone.Whens the last the last time u got sum pussy?Itz been a minute huh?? LOL
@Creationsofmyown I'm pretty sure the Bugei ryuha daijiten accepted Togakure (bikenjutsu) for the 1978 edition and 2003 edition. That's a catalog of koryu bujutsu and I guess that'll do for most people will it not?
"I'm pretty sure the Bugei ryuha daijiten accepted Togakure (bikenjutsu)"
stop, you are not understanding what the goal is for the BRD... this was a chance for people to put their CLAIMS on record. there was no authenticating, unless volunteered. hence, no accepting, just a list of claims.
"for the 1978 edition and 2003 edition. That's a catalog of koryu bujutsu and I guess that'll do for most people will it not?"
@Creationsofmyown that's not entirely correct is it? If the Bugei Ryuha Daijiten just accepted claims then it would be a lot larger and incorporate a lot more schools... The bugei ryuha daijiten is still referred to as 'the standard academic resource' by many. They still list Togakure as a koryu bujutsu do they not? If not by their standards by what other noteworthy academic definition, not a persons/small groups opinion, would you use for Koryu or even ninjutsu?
"They still list Togakure as a koryu bujutsu do they not?"
news to me... i think the words of takamatsu are more useful.
"If not by their standards by what other noteworthy academic definition, not a persons/small groups opinion, would you use for Koryu or even ninjutsu?"
i would use the koryu societies, namely the Nihon kobudo shinkokai, or the Nihon Kobudo Kyokai...
@Creationsofmyown Hi, no those organisations are not too small however what I asked for was an 'academic' definition of which both of those organisations technically do not provide.. They have stringent requirements but they are not an academic definition as they exclude quite a number of classical schools, do they not? Does this mean that not being a member is the same as being illegitimate...its similar to being a member of WKF org karate...doesn't mean what you study isn't 'legitimate' karate
@Creationsofmyown I didn't say that it was given in the BRD I said it was "listed as a koryu bujutsu",this relates to the BRD listing Koryu... you claimed that it was not koryu or ninjutsu and I was asking you to supply the definition and in particular an academic definition that you use, if you actually refer back to the post..... how would that be for the use of terminology??
"Does this mean that not being a member is the same as being illegitimate"
of course not. it means you cannot prove your school past 1868. but you would know this already if you did any research that wasn't trying to shift the burden of proof around...
heres how it goes... you will not be allowed to simply assert, unchallenged, that the claims of the bujinkan with regard to ninjutsu have already been proven.
if you insist the ninjutsu is legitimate, please prove your claim.
@Creationsofmyown Actually wrong there kiddo, the membership of the two koryu organisations doesn't just ask for a lineage that goes pre 1868...but if you looked into them instead of just quoting of what others have said you may realise that... there are various reasons why famously legit schools are not members of those organisations...again why i was asking for your definition of koryu/ninjutsu is to understand the issue of legitimacy..
"there are various reasons why famously legit schools are not members of those organisations"
but you cannot name any of these ryu that you know are legit but are not listed in the BRD ( with verifiable information) or in the NKS or NKK?
so where do your magical powers of deduction come from??
as for reasons... the problems usually arise from a diversion from the koryu way of doing things... like switching to dan grading or selling those grades at break neck pace.
@Creationsofmyown For example; Takenouchi Ryu Bichuden... do some research yourself... i note that you, Anthony et al, like to make your statements and let the public do the research for you.... A lot of the koryu schools also have rivalries with members of the NKK/NKS organisations and do not want to be considered part of them due to this... you still haven't provided the definition of a koryu bujutsu or ninjutsu that you use or reccommend, could you provide me with a link please?
@Creationsofmyown Interesting ... I wasn't at that seminar. But I do know someone who was there as a "silent observer". That's how I found your videos.
ah, i have been told by someone on the other video that this is kawakami (who is elderly ) and kiyomoto.... not kiyomoto and someone else.
can you either confirm or deny this?
i found it to be unlikely as i think the previous soke and the heir to ANY japanese bujutsu ryu should be able to do better noto than this swordsmen......
and by chance you wouldn't be speaking of one of the ron duncan fan clubs members would you?
@Creationsofmyown - OK, my source states that the one wearing black was Kawakami. He also states there were several more mistakes besides the noto. He says you were too kind to Kawakami. To his opinion there was no swordsmenship! For the rest he would rather PM you. If you are interested?
"that's not entirely correct is it? If the Bugei Ryuha Daijiten just accepted claims then it would be a lot larger and incorporate a lot more schools.."
then share with us some of the schools you believe are legit that are NOT listed ....
or better, explain to us how they were able to even authenticate the first lineage given to them by takamatsu...
you cannot use the revised story after the facts were set by takamatsu.
@Creationsofmyown - "then share with us some of the schools you believe are legit that are NOT listed.."
Actually I was going the other way with this one... with a lot more schools claiming to be older than they actually are : )
I believe that they changed their opinion due in part to the following books...Kore wa Ninjutsu da!, Shinsetsu Nihon Ninja Retsuden(Koyama Ryutaro), and Ninjutsu no Kenkyu(Nawa Yumio),
It is sad that no talent anonymous bitches like you go around trying to convince people your opinion is right when you have no right to offer any judgement. You show nothing about your ranks or training and you show nothing of skill what so ever. All you do is make up bullshit lies you think will offend your opponent. I have never had any of my accounts closed by youtube. You are still spreading illegal lies. Did I tell Haku and okami they could join Dean in a gay sexual fantasy of course!
@hotpopcorncake Yep I give shit to worthless cunts that give me shit. You too are on that list pancakepopcornboy. At least I got you. I use your face as target practice when I train now. I only wish creations was not such a coward, I would love to hunt him down. I can probably get you pissed off enough to want to fight and then you are mine bitch.
@hotpopcorncake What will be amusing is the video I make showcasing your Martial arts skills and teaching abilities. I tried to warn you, but it looks like you want what is coming. lol this will be fun for me as well. I would tear your fucking head off bitch. Do you need some money to come out to CA for a fight? I could start a fund raiser and we could have a real fight on video with ring girls and everything. You want to have a go at me. lets go or are you a coward like creations?
@DanBowenTV Dude seriously how much we talking?..this could be the easy money, i can make..lol na this time I'm turn down cause you back off at first so i don't take you serious now..your not a man anymore..your a mangina!
Dude i could careless what you do with my videos i put those vid for progress, yes it's something you will never accomplish , btw your a nonexistent pussy to me.
@hotpopcorncake the only pussy that is nonexistent is the pussy that is not in your bed at night. Maybe I am wrong and you do have some blind cow in your love life. I will keep making rad vids while you try to progress. I would kick the shit out of you faster than you can say hotpopcornpancake! btw your hairy palms are the only mangina in this discussion besides creations. lOL
@hotpopcorncake Guess what you stupid cunt. I took your advice and I took on bullshido unlike you they are down to fight. I got a fight with someone way bigger than you at the end of the summer. Go talk shit on bullshido with the rest of your douche bag buddies. Look under new posts Dan Bowen Vs White Kimbo. Win or lose I am more man than you will ever be bitch.
@DanBowenTV I doubt that. i got talent more you will ever have . your just a megalomaniac that bad mouth people (so nonmartial artist) , also your known to challenge blind/astham/jewish fighters. lol
so how your turd mining video with bad editing going? also you could be arrested have guns in your video ok cyall.
@hotpopcorncake I guess you are just hiding your talents from the youtube community, right? Lol bad editing is better than your nonexistent editing. White Kimbo was a bitch just like your fat ass. i would stick my airsoft up your fat ass and pull the trigger. lol is that illegal or just gross? You fat loser of a cunt
@DanBowenTV dude i don't need to listen your gay fantasy with airsoft gun..keep that shit to yourself homo, its funny you got trolled by whitekimbo that shit is funny.
i can make twice video's then your ass if i wanted too. but i'm to busy for that shit so shut up. so do me favor shut da fuck up..if you live around me i be sure i be waiting for you anywhere to beat your ass. but i have better shit to do then talk to a homo like you.
I have shown everything. you are still hiding. Therefore I get another Epic win over another fruitcake troll bitch. Thank for revealing the truth of your cowardice and ignorance. LOL fucking loser. You shall remain a fucking wannabe. You are one bad ass keyboard warrior. lol all talk, like I said. you are all talk
@DanBowenTV I have shown everything. you are still hiding. Therefore I get another Epic win over another fruitcake troll bitch. Thank for revealing the truth of your cowardice and ignorance. LOL fucking loser. You shall remain a fucking wannabe. You are one bad ass keyboard warrior. lol all talk, like I said. you are all talk
e ehehe you shouldnt have explanation like "any Swordsmen would take his fingers" I know that I would be cutting his fingers exclusively, but this depends on a style largely. For instance, I do only real fight techniques and most swordsman just practice how to counter others sword like how parry (block and hit to the eternity) If I practice Buddhist techniques which exclude actual killing of your opponent so im always focused only on hands, if guy wears armor than you couldnt take d cut
@oneSeabean so your cutting will be dependent on what kind of armor he wears and were he is covered... etc. Im not experts but Im certain about all that I said. I personally believe that only dead people from the ages when sword was used on battlefield really know how to use it properly, and I also believe that there is no match for Helebard on the no guns scene, but because of media and television we believe that katana was some fearsome weapon in medieval times (bullshit)
first, of course it would be... but there wouldnt be much point to training if you didnt anticipate a defense.
i personally believe that asking the people who died to the sword is the WORST idea... clearly they didnt use it well enough to stay alive.
the halberd is by no means superior to any other polearm.. and they ALL have the same strength/weakness, REACH, good advantage, get inside and ur finished tho.
in the after life they don't use sword but I can tell you that they had high risk jobs, injuries on job and death were normal everyday experience. We've lost so many great knights and man in a battle says one medieval guy Haga kure a book by some Japanese covers the subject and also we christians have those books but I don't want to give reference because of atheists I believe in God . As saying goes that good swimmers drown the Very best warriors died by swords or helebard or arrow
@Creationsofmyown I believe that those dead guys were best of the best only cowards stayed alive and that's how we become something in this world, where all that was good died. We sons of cowards, fleeing swordsman, peasants, and other scum, all greedy,
disloyal, homophobic gays, shameful, lunatics all that makes this world gray is speaking, well I want to stop that tell me your address, to begin with something
hello dan bowen ... you would do better to NOT hide your profile when making sock puppet accounts... i already sent you my address.
did you seriously think i would continually spam my address to you? i already told you, you want to act like a tough guy WHILE im on ur blocked list, YOUR LOSS.... i sent it you couldnt recieve it.
typical tough guy shouting how cool he is with his ears shut....
@Creationsofmyown When you are a fucking coward you will try to make every excuse in the book to hide the fact that you are a weak bitch. Enjoy chasing your own tail. Sorry anonymous worthless prick troll. Blcoked or not everyone can see who i am and wehre I train and live. you on the other hand show nothing and remain a loser, a liar and a chicken shit coward LOL I win again you stupid mother fucker.
@Creationsofmyown LOL,, I think you created this sea bean guy so you could keep jacking off. Yes I show in my vids where I train and My hometown is shown along with my Real name. Anyone could find me, but you are still hiding, l Dan Bowen just spanked your ass again. lol eat that you pussy fart of a man. I want everyone that stumbles upon this video to know exactly what you are all about. I also want them to see that Dan Bowen does not take shit from troll fags. That is all you are.
@Creationsofmyown by the way my address is on the comments lower in this forum you have created. Of course an idiot and liar such as yourself would easily forget the truth and the fact that I have shown everything , you have shown nothing, but your cowardice. I am not wasting any more time with your bitch ass. You are too afraid to show who you are, so i know you are too afraid to actually fight anyone. You are just another little doggy trying to bark like a bad ass.
@Creationsofmyown listen listen we are all allowed to use everyday handwriting like we want, we dont need sentences, here so please, and really have you every been there you speak like you just come back from the dead, shut up man you are helberd Helebard vs. Sword and Shield HELEBARD MAN HELEBARD not helbred HELEBARD
@Creationsofmyown and how can you say that about myamoto No Kama Fujiwara No Genshin Musashi some people call me Musashi some people seriously im not joking now
@oneSeabean I have shown everything. you are still hiding. Therefore I get another Epic win over another fruitcake troll bitch. Thank for revealing the truth of your cowardice and ignorance. LOL fucking loser. You shall remain a fucking wannabe. You are one bad ass keyboard warrior. lol all talk, like I said. you are all talk
regardless of school trained fighters are taught to take whats offered... why would you hold you sword there when he did nothing but put the chain in front of his body?
and at :30 there is NOTHING stopping the sword sliding down the handle.
he does nothing to protect his hand, evidence that this technique is clearly BS...
if the guy was wearing armor, i can still kill him... it just takes more time/accuracy.
i never said ninjutsu was fake, i said that people teaching "ninjutsu" are teaching fake ninjutsu...
the two are entirely different things, of course, since you cannot attack my arguments with logic you must respond in a way that elicits a defense of an argument i didnt make...
my entire youtube channel is devoted to debunking retards like dan who think that you can lie on the internet with impunity.
as a tip, its usually a good idea to make a NEW sock puppet account when you want to harass someone again....
you have used this one before in our interactions during your sexual harassment of the minors that resulted in your BAN on SacredFireDojoShow....
seriously... im done toying with you.. i know that it eats you up that you dont have my address when you could have ... and that misery is exquisite, but please continue your tirade... its good for my comment count.
no my friend im not Dan I watch Chosen ninja because he is interesting person but nothing more than that and Im not a ninja I dint know how this came about, I practice martial arts but I kick ass and people hate me because Im good really, no one appreciates me. Dan is very appreciated cock sucker
@oneSeabean my cok is sucked very much thank you. I also go down on my wife, she loves my tongue. Unlike you fucking virgins who have never been inside a real woman.
@Creationsofmyown I never sexually harassed no one is this a joke and im not banned from SacredFireDojoShow and I dont know what it is, man Im Serbian seriously and I believe in God so please stop saying that I was harassing anyone. I love you all no mater how sick you are etc I love you like a healthy person loves sick but I love you with whole of my hearth !
@Creationsofmyown HEY I DONT LIKE SUCKERS LIKE DAN WTF WHAT DAN DONT ATTACK ME OVER THAT SICK BOY. I DONT HAVE REAL INFORMATION ON ACCOUNT BECAUSE I HAVE SOME ENEMIES NOT FROM INTERNET BUT FROM REAL LIFE WHO HATE ME AND I DONT WANT TO GET STUPID MESSAGES FROM THEM
@Creationsofmyown LOL I dont watch him my younger brother do Im wing chun guy not a ninja, please stop with mentioning Dan Brown I'll never watch chosen ninja again just dont attack me with that crap, please. I also trained karate and im good and i trained russian systema for few days and i really loved it its a good training, but im good in WC and Karate no ninjitsu I like creations of my own like you, like Russian Martial art check it out
@Creationsofmyown LOL, You are so delusional. You think this poor piece of shit is me. I forgot all about your ass until I saw some comment form this loser that closed his account. God, you are a fucking imbecile. Not to mention a coward and a worthless twat that has to hide behind a fake account. anonymous pussy fart. LOL
Your so hilarious. Your life is so pathetic that you actually have to talk shit about my reputation.Seriously that should say something. to you. You are less than me.
@oneSeabean lol this is so great. You fucking morons. It is like watching the special olympics, yeah you might have won a medal, but your still a fucking retard. LOL
lol forget this guy. his entire youtube account is centered round bashing ninjutsu and he's arguing with dozens of people on videos all over youtube. im pretty sure that doesnt leave much time for actual training. just some other random bitch ass troll without a life. or actually one thats fixated around proving ninjutsu is fake.
dont mind dan, he is still crying cuz he thought we forgot his original account "SacredFireDojoShow" was banned for sexually harassing 14 year old boys...
he wanted my address and couldnt recieve it cuz i was blocked... gotta love tough guys that pick a fight with their ears shut...
@Creationsofmyown wow, you are still saying my accounts were closed by youtube. you really don't get it do you. You are a chicken shit coward who spreads lies. Fuck your faggot ass and all the little Homo cock suckers you support. SACREDFIREDOJOSHOW was my fifth youtube. for new bad ass vids go to DanbowenTV mother fucker.
@rawhide901 If you watched any of my videos you would clearly see I am a very talented and creative individual. When some asshole spreads lies challenges me to a fight and then chickens out I have a right to get bent out of shape. Maybe you should analyze the trolls you associate with. Maybe you should shut the fuck up because you have no idea what you are talking about, thank you.
@DanBowenTV Hi Dan, Nice to hear from you again. Something told me you'd be back in touch. Ur so angry! I'm beginin to wonder if the stories about u n 14yo boys bottom holes are true. Tell u what, u can reply to this calling me a cunt or something like that and then we'll leave it there. U have the last word on me. U always like the last word. I gotta b careful who I associate with. lol
@rawhide901 yes it is true I told a couple of 17 year olds to go fuck each other because they were being douchebags. I never had any account closed though. Sorry, if you are going to fuck with me I will tell you where to stick no matter what age. As far as my sexual orientation I am married to a hot wife unlike the majority of you anonymous troll fags.
-yawn- your trying too hard dan... we all know your a fake ass piece of shit... for fuck sakes i have a pm from you to dean that says how your done with choson yet your still sucking away on his cock....
@Creationsofmyown Yawn, Yep I am the one who hides his identity and talks like a big dog. Keep on enjoying your little world you live in. The walls are closing in little rat. Soon you will be strangled by your own actions and lies. LOL this is actually entertaining me. thanks bro. you rock. I love CHOSON NINJA, he is my hero and would love to suck his cock dry.
I have shown everything. you are still hiding. Therefore I get another Epic win over another fruitcake troll bitch. Thank you for revealing the truth of your cowardice and ignorance. LOL fucking loser. You shall remain a fucking wannabe. You are one bad ass keyboard warrior. lol all talk, like I said. you are all talk.
I have shown everything. you are still hiding. Therefore I get another Epic win over another fruitcake troll bitch. Thank you for revealing the truth of your cowardice and ignorance. LOL fucking loser. You shall remain a fucking wannabe. You are one bad ass keyboard warrior. lol all talk, like I said. you are all talk.
I have shown everything. you are still hiding. Therefore I get another Epic win over another fruitcake troll bitch. Thank you for revealing the truth of your cowardice and ignorance. LOL fucking loser. You shall remain a fucking wannabe. You are one bad ass keyboard warrior. lol all talk, like I said. you are all talk.
I have shown everything. you are still hiding. Therefore I get another Epic win over another fruitcake troll bitch. Thank you for revealing the truth of your cowardice and ignorance. LOL fucking loser. You shall remain a fucking wannabe. You are one bad ass keyboard warrior. lol all talk, like I said. you are all talk.
I have shown everything. you are still hiding. Therefore I get another Epic win over another fruitcake troll bitch. Thank you for revealing the truth of your cowardice and ignorance. LOL fucking loser. You shall remain a fucking wannabe. You are one bad ass keyboard warrior. lol all talk, like I said. you are all talk.
kata is kata, waza is waza... not so dificult to undestand, right?
Fukaimaster 3 months ago
Honestly, I've never seen even a decent demo with chained weapons.
These guys are as bad as many representatives of numerous reputable ryu-ha out there.
Lillymill 9 months ago
@Lillymill In defense of such people, chain or articulated weapons are extremely difficult to wield in a proficient manner.
OMFGHUGEWOLF 7 months ago
@OMFGHUGEWOLF
Fair enough but it still doesn't explain why they all feel compelled to demonstrate chained weapon techniques :))
Lillymill 7 months ago
Are they Japanese?
sokucho 9 months ago
ROFL spends a dozen comments claiming he can prove himself.... and when he is DARED to actually do it... he pusses out and runs off....
typical ninjer
Arteanor 9 months ago
wut i can do is pretty much prove all the rumors r exactly that an the crap people have said bout him r false. the accusations r as follow
1. duncan created it bc he was mad he didnt bcome head of hakko ryu on east coast
2. Ducan studied ninjutsu from draeger who learnt it from Seiko
3.Ducan got caught in lies n changed is linage several times
they r the main accusations and they r all false he nvr changed linage,nvr claimed seikos art, n hakko story is total BS
harleyqslovechild88 1 year ago
"Way fo the Winds" is a concept (ya kno move like the wind and ect which is y the h2h stuff is very wind like) because the element wind is very devistating and the Way of the Winds Ninjustu created by Duncan is a complete blend of the traditional MA he studied along with the styles of Ninjutsu he has studied. He blended n molded the system 2 meet the realities of todays world. Now i cant prove he trained in ninjutsu i can list the if u give me ur email n show u 1st hand the styles he claim 2 kno
harleyqslovechild88 1 year ago
actuall there is one other guy thats the oldest i dont know his name but hes in several demonstrations with ducan in ninja magazine and karate magazine that guy train with duncan in 64' or 65', as i posted on another video somewhere loreiga and vasquez trained in 66' but again the ninja boom didnt occure until the mid 1970s. An when ducan started first teaching ninjutsu in 64 0r 65 it was only taught to his senior students the rest of it was just martial arts like jujutsu and kobojutsu
harleyqslovechild88 1 year ago
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harleyqslovechild88 1 year ago
Im still waiting for n email address id be will to send pictures and sett he record straight about all this nonsense
harleyqslovechild88 1 year ago
is that the new tread lol "low class ninjutsu" no1 started you's that phrase until steven used it in his video he just made about lock picking.
That is kawakami in the video (seminar video) give me ur email address i'll send u some photo's.
No clue i honestly dont kno who his ninjutsu instructors are but that doesnt mean he's fake. he has studied several ninjutsu styles. as for it being low class i dont know if thats a approprate statement
harleyqslovechild88 1 year ago
@harleyqslovechild88
good im glad you understand the reference.
"That is kawakami in the video (seminar video) give me ur email address i'll send u some photo's."
except i was told by the person who SHOT my video that it is kiyomoto and a helper.
"No clue i honestly dont kno who his ninjutsu instructors are but that doesnt mean he's fake."
then stop guessing.
" he has studied several ninjutsu styles."
then name 1, and prove the training. show anything that is ninjutsu... it isn't there.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown funny, im willing to show u pictures of the seminar and prove to u thats kawakami u wanna just o well the camera man said its not him? that doesnt make sense, and goes against wut u said to b4
"im willing to view and discuss all sides of the matter"(paraphrase).
I would be willing to list some ninjutsu ryu he claims to kno
harleyqslovechild88 1 year ago
i dont kno how to upload videos so here check this out
watch?v=dnxT4ffZV78
harleyqslovechild88 1 year ago
@harleyqslovechild88
yes and from looking at that video we can clearly see that the man in blue on the right is kiyomoto.
were you meaning to imply that the man on the left, i would estimate as the younger of these 2 ... is jinichi kawakami??
remember you already said : "i dont c anything wrong with the two videos on Kawakami and Kyomoto"
so please elaborate for me... how is THIS guy the guy in the videos by kiketet...
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown no the video i posted above is kiyomoto and some other guy performing bujutsu i sent u this video watch?v=dnxT4ffZV78 (which is the one im talking bout right now) to show u the sounds and movements being made, and compare them to the sounds and movements at the seminar. now the seminar videos u have kawakami has the sword and kiyomoto has the rings, the kasuri gama. i have always maintained kawakami n kiyomoto in the seminar so wut needs clearification?
harleyqslovechild88 1 year ago
@harleyqslovechild88
"to show u the sounds and movements being made, and compare them to the sounds and movements at the seminar."
both of which are neither stealthy, or practical. LEARN about martial breathing to discover why...
"now the seminar videos u have kawakami has the sword and kiyomoto has the rings"
uh, no i do not. neither is kawakami you ignorant fucknob.
he is in the front row of the audience. NOT on the mat.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown no lol he is on the mat that is kawakami with the sword whoever is telling u that is lieing.
walking and breathing techniques are part of the ninjutsu he showed at the seminar.
"both of which are neither stealthy, or practical. LEARN about martial breathing to discover why"
u are right the point i was making is both are demoing bujutsu not ninjutsu there for stealth isnt obviously there.
harleyqslovechild88 1 year ago
@harleyqslovechild88
"no lol he is on the mat that is kawakami with the sword whoever is telling u that is lieing."
so you think jinichi kawakami is the soke of banke shinobiden and he doesn't know how to do NOTO?
get fucking serious kid.
"u are right the point i was making is both are demoing bujutsu not ninjutsu there for stealth isnt obviously there."
so they called him for his ninjutsu credentials, and he demo'ed nothing but MA? AWESOME, he's another hatsumi...
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown he gave a bujutsu demonstrate
the ninjutsu portion was when they asked questions bout his linage and ect..For ninjutsu he did demonstrate breathing techniques an walking skills n on other thing but most of it was a oral presentation. im sorry if it doesnt meet to ur satisfaction but those are the facts take em or leave em
harleyqslovechild88 1 year ago
@harleyqslovechild88
and on to duncan
you said:"duncan started teaching ninjutsu back in 1964 way before the ninja boom"
but duncan only trained with Draeger BEFORE Draeger met Fujita, the person duncan claims trained Draeger in the ninjutsu he taught him...
did you have some evidence for the claim of either of these men being taught ninjutsu by Fujita Seiko? ah i didn't think so...
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown interesting how ur setting me up here lol
first off duncan never claimed to learn ninjutsu from Don Draeger and has certainly never laid claim to knowing Fujita's Wada Ha style of ninjutsu so i dont kno wut ur talking bout. Duncan trained with Don in judo while in the marine corps
harleyqslovechild88 1 year ago
@harleyqslovechild88
"first off duncan never claimed to learn ninjutsu from Don Draeger"
really it was on his webpage for a while.... or you could deny evidence in print. or just ANSWER the questions i asked... what ryu is it? and WHO is the teacher who has otherwise elluded being named.
"and has certainly never laid claim to knowing Fujita's Wada Ha style of ninjutsu so i dont kno wut ur talking bout. Duncan trained with Don in judo while in the marine corps"
so he learned ninjutsu in panama?
Arteanor 1 year ago
@Arteanor never claimed to learn ninjutsu in panama either thats totally false,
harleyqslovechild88 1 year ago
@Arteanor never ever was it on his website did it state he learned ninjutsu from don draeger im sorry its just not true if it was id admite it.
harleyqslovechild88 1 year ago
@harleyqslovechild88
" never ever was it on his website did it state he learned ninjutsu from don draeger"
thats a broad proclamation. you go through time for that? or do you just KNOW that he has never admitted it and only lets his flunkies put it in his mouth....
" im sorry its just not true if it was id admite it."like you lie about the rest... sure.
"@Arteanor never claimed to learn ninjutsu in panama either thats totally false,"
crossfire magazine, scans on ebudo. admit or GTFO
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown i have crossfire magazine lol panama says nothing bout ninjutsu my dude panama he learned boxing. Which shows u obviously dont have that magazine or never even seen it. I read ebudo comments n bullshido comments, all of it is slander an they shoould be ashamed of themselfs. if u look at ebudo all r bujinkan, genbukan wats that tell u ?
harleyqslovechild88 1 year ago
@harleyqslovechild88
" if u look at ebudo all r bujinkan, genbukan wats that tell u ?"
that they are just like you.
that they only look at the evidence so far as creating a semantic argument in which it appears as if they have already proven their point, this is simply a multi level assertion, and i will not be the platform for it.
prove your claims of duncan learning ninjutsu, ESPECIALLY the claim he was teaching it in 1964...
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@harleyqslovechild88
"I would be willing to list some ninjutsu ryu he claims to kno
funny, i just directly asked you to do that.... how many times are you going to say you are willing instead of actually SHOWING the things you claim to have...
or PROVING the claims being made... none of these should be difficult to manage .... and all are easily verifiable...
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown send me your email and i will
harleyqslovechild88 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown im not lieing or asking u to prove a negative.
James loriega atested he taught ninjutsu at the time Felix Vasquez Atested the same the thing two of his oldest and most senior students i will provide u a video with them saying so
harleyqslovechild88 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown
watch?v=7AUAubGHXAA
harleyqslovechild88 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown ok now with that video being displayed in 1993 i wold like to show u wut it says in crossfire
crossfire by the way wasnt 89' with his article like u thought, it was. its 82'-85'
i will show u the article if u give me ur email and show u wut he lists where and when.
i can also show u kawakami's seminar if u are interested
harleyqslovechild88 1 year ago
@harleyqslovechild88
"u have no prove hes fake and wuts dispicable is how u SlANDER the man with lies and things that never happend and arent truth "
"ur ignorant u have seen 3 mins in total of the seminar u dont even kno thats kawakami in the video, but ur gonna talk shit like, when clearly u kno nutin "
i have shown here that you in fact DID make the claim this was kawakami in the video. you have failed to cover your lie.
so who is his teacher? what style? why is it such low class ninjutsu
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
What'S wrong with is kiai it's seem to come from is throat rather than his hara
jordouellette 1 year ago
I wanna see more of this guy!!!!!!! LOL Now all of the koka people have a soke..LOL In a attempte 2 claim sum legitamcy..LOL
computron808 1 year ago
@computron808
you mean an attempt to do what hatsumi has tried to do?
atleast kawakami has skills beyond the martial arts he claims to be ninjutsu...
aren't you a bujinkan member?
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown Yes I m a proud member of the bujinkan.I believe Hatsumi Sensei bro.It`s like being a christian.Even tho there is no concrete evidence that Jesus is the son of god.People still believe.Because why?They have faith.As I have faith that Takamatsu Sensei was what he said he was.What do u mean Hatsumi Sensei mastered a few other martial arts b4training with Takamatsu.In judo n karate.Why do u dislike the bujinkan n Hatsumi so much?U either have faith or u don`t.And in this case I do
computron808 1 year ago
@computron808
"Why do u dislike the bujinkan n Hatsumi so much?U either have faith or u don`t.And in this case I do"
because believing things without evidence for them is a pollution of the mind,...
and paying money for something to someone who knows he is lying to you about what it is is not a good way of doing business in my book...
so did you have a historical source? maybe a picture of any of the ninjutsu scrolls being claimed by hatsumi? (that takamatsu said don't exist)
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown Where did Takamatsu say they didn`t or don`t exsist.Send me a message.With all of ur info on this.I will ask a few people that no more about this then me.I luv training n I luv ninpo.Whether u or other people out there that think Hatsumi isn`t legit n isn`t what he claims2b.It doesn`t matter2me.I no how the art makes me feel n itz like no other martial art I`ve ever felt b4.Whether itz real or not.Therez sumthing about it that keeps me going n keeps me training n keeps me happy
computron808 1 year ago
@computron808
he told the bugei ryuha daijiten that he recieved a kuden transmission, and watatani didn't believe him despite their being friends because he didn't have any paperwork for it.
".I luv training n I luv ninpo"
that is a good thing, nobody is saying you should quit the buj, but that doesnt make it ninjutsu..
"It doesn`t matter2me.I no how the art makes me feel n itz like no other martial art I`ve ever felt b4"
so? that doesnt make it ninjutsu or ninpo.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmy Well in my heart in my eyes in my mind.I feel it is my friend.I don`t really like sayin I do nin-jutsu.Cause nin-jutsu isn`t really a martial art.Thats more on the lines of spying n espinoge.I like2say I train in ninpo-tai jutsu.And samurai were ninja.So like what does it matter if itz not confimed as a koryu?If the actual fighting techniques were past down within the lineage.What does it matter?There are plenty of traditional arts that aren`t koryu.So what does it really matter?
computron808 1 year ago
@computron808
"I don`t really like sayin I do nin-jutsu."
i see it from you often enough.
"Cause nin-jutsu isn`t really a martial art.Thats more on the lines of spying n espinoge."
thanks i taught u that. i am also arteanor. thanks for fighting tooth and nail against the idea until you thought you could incorporate your fake ninja school into it....
"I like2say I train in ninpo-tai jutsu" i'll bet you do.
it doesn't make your school connected to shinobi in any way, EVER!!
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@computron808
"And samurai were ninja" yep taught you that as well. should make a video, this is too funny!
"So like what does it matter if itz not confimed as a koryu?" it matters WHY it isn't confirmable...
"If the actual fighting techniques were past down within the lineage."
but they weren't, they start with takamatsu.
"What does it matter?There are plenty of traditional arts that aren`t koryu.So what does it really matter?"
it's called false advertising.. its illegal.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown U didn`t tell me any of that.Show me the proof that takamatsu made it up.Why don`t go down 2 Hatsumi`s dojo n tell him what u think.Call him a lier and a bullshiter 2 his face.Instead of talkin yo shit 2 his students.Alls ur sayin is hear say.So me the proof..
computron808 1 year ago
@computron808
"U didn`t tell me any of that"
i think i WILL make that video, just to prove you are totally full of shit...
"Show me the proof that takamatsu made it up.
then go read the kukishinden zensho.... TSOAS2008 is doing a video on it shortly, as long as yosie can find a copy...
you can read the letters that takamatsu wrote to the kukishen headmaster....
"Why don`t go down 2 Hatsumi`s dojo n tell him what u think."
but hatsumi isn't going around claiming ninja BS anymore... YOU ARE!
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown Ur makin this big deal of this shit.I can care less.I have a life outside of of youtube.Unlike u it seemz like.This is ur life goal.I`ll help u pay 4 a plane ticket 2come2 where I live.U sound like u just need ur ass kicked.And to get laid.I can help u out with both.I no sum whores who will fuc anyone.Whens the last the last time u got sum pussy?Itz been a minute huh?? LOL
computron808 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown I'm pretty sure the Bugei ryuha daijiten accepted Togakure (bikenjutsu) for the 1978 edition and 2003 edition. That's a catalog of koryu bujutsu and I guess that'll do for most people will it not?
diargo2001 1 year ago
@diargo2001
"I'm pretty sure the Bugei ryuha daijiten accepted Togakure (bikenjutsu)"
stop, you are not understanding what the goal is for the BRD... this was a chance for people to put their CLAIMS on record. there was no authenticating, unless volunteered. hence, no accepting, just a list of claims.
"for the 1978 edition and 2003 edition. That's a catalog of koryu bujutsu and I guess that'll do for most people will it not?"
but it certainly isn't koryu, OR ninjutsu...
see the problem?
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown that's not entirely correct is it? If the Bugei Ryuha Daijiten just accepted claims then it would be a lot larger and incorporate a lot more schools... The bugei ryuha daijiten is still referred to as 'the standard academic resource' by many. They still list Togakure as a koryu bujutsu do they not? If not by their standards by what other noteworthy academic definition, not a persons/small groups opinion, would you use for Koryu or even ninjutsu?
diargo2001 1 year ago
@diargo2001
" 'the standard academic resource' by many."
as a listing for the claims made by schools.
"They still list Togakure as a koryu bujutsu do they not?"
news to me... i think the words of takamatsu are more useful.
"If not by their standards by what other noteworthy academic definition, not a persons/small groups opinion, would you use for Koryu or even ninjutsu?"
i would use the koryu societies, namely the Nihon kobudo shinkokai, or the Nihon Kobudo Kyokai...
not too small?
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown Hi, no those organisations are not too small however what I asked for was an 'academic' definition of which both of those organisations technically do not provide.. They have stringent requirements but they are not an academic definition as they exclude quite a number of classical schools, do they not? Does this mean that not being a member is the same as being illegitimate...its similar to being a member of WKF org karate...doesn't mean what you study isn't 'legitimate' karate
diargo2001 1 year ago
@diargo2001
"Hi, no those organisations are not too small"
but you ignore them nonetheless
"however what I asked for was an 'academic' definition "
something that also isn't given in the BRD.
"They have stringent requirements but they are not an academic definition"
because that is a flaw of language, check your terminology kiddo.
"as they exclude quite a number of classical schools, do they not? "
the only requirement is proof of your school existing past 1868...
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown I didn't say that it was given in the BRD I said it was "listed as a koryu bujutsu",this relates to the BRD listing Koryu... you claimed that it was not koryu or ninjutsu and I was asking you to supply the definition and in particular an academic definition that you use, if you actually refer back to the post..... how would that be for the use of terminology??
diargo2001 1 year ago
@diargo2001
"Does this mean that not being a member is the same as being illegitimate"
of course not. it means you cannot prove your school past 1868. but you would know this already if you did any research that wasn't trying to shift the burden of proof around...
heres how it goes... you will not be allowed to simply assert, unchallenged, that the claims of the bujinkan with regard to ninjutsu have already been proven.
if you insist the ninjutsu is legitimate, please prove your claim.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
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diargo2001 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown Actually wrong there kiddo, the membership of the two koryu organisations doesn't just ask for a lineage that goes pre 1868...but if you looked into them instead of just quoting of what others have said you may realise that... there are various reasons why famously legit schools are not members of those organisations...again why i was asking for your definition of koryu/ninjutsu is to understand the issue of legitimacy..
diargo2001 1 year ago
@diargo2001
"there are various reasons why famously legit schools are not members of those organisations"
but you cannot name any of these ryu that you know are legit but are not listed in the BRD ( with verifiable information) or in the NKS or NKK?
so where do your magical powers of deduction come from??
as for reasons... the problems usually arise from a diversion from the koryu way of doing things... like switching to dan grading or selling those grades at break neck pace.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown For example; Takenouchi Ryu Bichuden... do some research yourself... i note that you, Anthony et al, like to make your statements and let the public do the research for you.... A lot of the koryu schools also have rivalries with members of the NKK/NKS organisations and do not want to be considered part of them due to this... you still haven't provided the definition of a koryu bujutsu or ninjutsu that you use or reccommend, could you provide me with a link please?
diargo2001 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown - Were you at this seminar, if you don't mind me asking?
kagemusha013 1 year ago
@kagemusha013
no unfortunately.
scottbaioisdead had these videos up without permission and took them down when he was asked...
when i ASKED first, suiyoku allowed me to upload them here... its in the comments of them on dailymotion
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown Interesting ... I wasn't at that seminar. But I do know someone who was there as a "silent observer". That's how I found your videos.
kagemusha013 1 year ago
@kagemusha013
ah, i have been told by someone on the other video that this is kawakami (who is elderly ) and kiyomoto.... not kiyomoto and someone else.
can you either confirm or deny this?
i found it to be unlikely as i think the previous soke and the heir to ANY japanese bujutsu ryu should be able to do better noto than this swordsmen......
and by chance you wouldn't be speaking of one of the ron duncan fan clubs members would you?
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown - OK, my source states that the one wearing black was Kawakami. He also states there were several more mistakes besides the noto. He says you were too kind to Kawakami. To his opinion there was no swordsmenship! For the rest he would rather PM you. If you are interested?
kagemusha013 1 year ago
@kagemusha013 yes of course
i always love hearing all sides to discussions....
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown - Cool, I will inform him and I hope everything turns out well!
kagemusha013 1 year ago
@diargo2001
"that's not entirely correct is it? If the Bugei Ryuha Daijiten just accepted claims then it would be a lot larger and incorporate a lot more schools.."
then share with us some of the schools you believe are legit that are NOT listed ....
or better, explain to us how they were able to even authenticate the first lineage given to them by takamatsu...
you cannot use the revised story after the facts were set by takamatsu.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
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@Creationsofmyown - "then share with us some of the schools you believe are legit that are NOT listed.."
Actually I was going the other way with this one... with a lot more schools claiming to be older than they actually are : )
I believe that they changed their opinion due in part to the following books...Kore wa Ninjutsu da!, Shinsetsu Nihon Ninja Retsuden(Koyama Ryutaro), and Ninjutsu no Kenkyu(Nawa Yumio),
diargo2001 1 year ago
thats not a death yell /scream you may scare a cat but not a a dragon
toth2173 1 year ago
It is sad that no talent anonymous bitches like you go around trying to convince people your opinion is right when you have no right to offer any judgement. You show nothing about your ranks or training and you show nothing of skill what so ever. All you do is make up bullshit lies you think will offend your opponent. I have never had any of my accounts closed by youtube. You are still spreading illegal lies. Did I tell Haku and okami they could join Dean in a gay sexual fantasy of course!
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
you are still a coward and a liar.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
who school is this ? is this Greg style of fake ninja ?
hotpopcorncake 1 year ago
@hotpopcorncake
no, this is another of the fakes that is atleast actually from japan... '
despite this, he demo'd martial arts instead of the skills of ninjutsu... odd no?
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown yea i see that including that yelling what sup with that.
hotpopcorncake 1 year ago
@hotpopcorncake You would be yelling when I shove my katana up your ass.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
Hey douchebeag you still suck.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
Stay tuned for my newest video dedicated to you...
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
aw crap Dan is here too
hotpopcorncake 1 year ago
@hotpopcorncake Yep I give shit to worthless cunts that give me shit. You too are on that list pancakepopcornboy. At least I got you. I use your face as target practice when I train now. I only wish creations was not such a coward, I would love to hunt him down. I can probably get you pissed off enough to want to fight and then you are mine bitch.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
@DanBowenTV lol you all talk ,like i said ur a pussy...I'm not pissed, it's more amused then anything that i got you all mad now without trying.
just a simple question boom you got retarded on me..
hotpopcorncake 1 year ago
@hotpopcorncake What will be amusing is the video I make showcasing your Martial arts skills and teaching abilities. I tried to warn you, but it looks like you want what is coming. lol this will be fun for me as well. I would tear your fucking head off bitch. Do you need some money to come out to CA for a fight? I could start a fund raiser and we could have a real fight on video with ring girls and everything. You want to have a go at me. lets go or are you a coward like creations?
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
@DanBowenTV Dude seriously how much we talking?..this could be the easy money, i can make..lol na this time I'm turn down cause you back off at first so i don't take you serious now..your not a man anymore..your a mangina!
Dude i could careless what you do with my videos i put those vid for progress, yes it's something you will never accomplish , btw your a nonexistent pussy to me.
hotpopcorncake 1 year ago
@hotpopcorncake the only pussy that is nonexistent is the pussy that is not in your bed at night. Maybe I am wrong and you do have some blind cow in your love life. I will keep making rad vids while you try to progress. I would kick the shit out of you faster than you can say hotpopcornpancake! btw your hairy palms are the only mangina in this discussion besides creations. lOL
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
@DanBowenTV errr worst come back ever..lol ok good luck with that..NOT!!
good luck fighting with your hands down and flinching like a bitch in your punching the bag video..btw your g/f in the video fights better then you..
hotpopcorncake 1 year ago
@hotpopcorncake Thanks for the compliments i WOULD MAKE YOU FLINCH AS I BEAT YOUR FACE INTO THE GROUND
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
@hotpopcorncake Guess what you stupid cunt. I took your advice and I took on bullshido unlike you they are down to fight. I got a fight with someone way bigger than you at the end of the summer. Go talk shit on bullshido with the rest of your douche bag buddies. Look under new posts Dan Bowen Vs White Kimbo. Win or lose I am more man than you will ever be bitch.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
@hotpopcorncake Fat untalented worthless piece of shit. I will kill you with one hit bitch.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
@DanBowenTV I doubt that. i got talent more you will ever have . your just a megalomaniac that bad mouth people (so nonmartial artist) , also your known to challenge blind/astham/jewish fighters. lol
so how your turd mining video with bad editing going? also you could be arrested have guns in your video ok cyall.
hotpopcorncake 1 year ago
@hotpopcorncake I guess you are just hiding your talents from the youtube community, right? Lol bad editing is better than your nonexistent editing. White Kimbo was a bitch just like your fat ass. i would stick my airsoft up your fat ass and pull the trigger. lol is that illegal or just gross? You fat loser of a cunt
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
@DanBowenTV dude i don't need to listen your gay fantasy with airsoft gun..keep that shit to yourself homo, its funny you got trolled by whitekimbo that shit is funny.
i can make twice video's then your ass if i wanted too. but i'm to busy for that shit so shut up. so do me favor shut da fuck up..if you live around me i be sure i be waiting for you anywhere to beat your ass. but i have better shit to do then talk to a homo like you.
hotpopcorncake 1 year ago
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I have shown everything. you are still hiding. Therefore I get another Epic win over another fruitcake troll bitch. Thank for revealing the truth of your cowardice and ignorance. LOL fucking loser. You shall remain a fucking wannabe. You are one bad ass keyboard warrior. lol all talk, like I said. you are all talk
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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@DanBowenTV I have shown everything. you are still hiding. Therefore I get another Epic win over another fruitcake troll bitch. Thank for revealing the truth of your cowardice and ignorance. LOL fucking loser. You shall remain a fucking wannabe. You are one bad ass keyboard warrior. lol all talk, like I said. you are all talk
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
e ehehe you shouldnt have explanation like "any Swordsmen would take his fingers" I know that I would be cutting his fingers exclusively, but this depends on a style largely. For instance, I do only real fight techniques and most swordsman just practice how to counter others sword like how parry (block and hit to the eternity) If I practice Buddhist techniques which exclude actual killing of your opponent so im always focused only on hands, if guy wears armor than you couldnt take d cut
oneSeabean 1 year ago
@oneSeabean so your cutting will be dependent on what kind of armor he wears and were he is covered... etc. Im not experts but Im certain about all that I said. I personally believe that only dead people from the ages when sword was used on battlefield really know how to use it properly, and I also believe that there is no match for Helebard on the no guns scene, but because of media and television we believe that katana was some fearsome weapon in medieval times (bullshit)
oneSeabean 1 year ago
@oneSeabean
responding to yourself? how cowardly of you...
first, of course it would be... but there wouldnt be much point to training if you didnt anticipate a defense.
i personally believe that asking the people who died to the sword is the WORST idea... clearly they didnt use it well enough to stay alive.
the halberd is by no means superior to any other polearm.. and they ALL have the same strength/weakness, REACH, good advantage, get inside and ur finished tho.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
in the after life they don't use sword but I can tell you that they had high risk jobs, injuries on job and death were normal everyday experience. We've lost so many great knights and man in a battle says one medieval guy Haga kure a book by some Japanese covers the subject and also we christians have those books but I don't want to give reference because of atheists I believe in God . As saying goes that good swimmers drown the Very best warriors died by swords or helebard or arrow
oneSeabean 1 year ago
@oneSeabean
"in the afterlife..." uh dude, there isnt one.
if you base all of your claims off of things with as little evidence as your religion then we are definitely done this discussion...
and PLEASE stop using helebard... its called a HALBERD...
seriously... what are you even yammering about in this comment,,,
your sentence structure is atrocious.
the very best? so you are refusing to acknowledge people like musashi who beat everyone that came at them as the best?
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown I believe that those dead guys were best of the best only cowards stayed alive and that's how we become something in this world, where all that was good died. We sons of cowards, fleeing swordsman, peasants, and other scum, all greedy,
disloyal, homophobic gays, shameful, lunatics all that makes this world gray is speaking, well I want to stop that tell me your address, to begin with something
oneSeabean 1 year ago
@oneSeabean
ROFL and so the truth comes out...
hello dan bowen ... you would do better to NOT hide your profile when making sock puppet accounts... i already sent you my address.
did you seriously think i would continually spam my address to you? i already told you, you want to act like a tough guy WHILE im on ur blocked list, YOUR LOSS.... i sent it you couldnt recieve it.
typical tough guy shouting how cool he is with his ears shut....
i think im gonna block you like you blocked me
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown When you are a fucking coward you will try to make every excuse in the book to hide the fact that you are a weak bitch. Enjoy chasing your own tail. Sorry anonymous worthless prick troll. Blcoked or not everyone can see who i am and wehre I train and live. you on the other hand show nothing and remain a loser, a liar and a chicken shit coward LOL I win again you stupid mother fucker.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
@DanBowenTV
-sigh- finally done using your sock puppet accounts?
seriously watching you flame yourself if fucking hilarious, dont stop on my account...
and since i dont see your address on your youtube channel.... i dont see how you can claim "everyone can see who i am and wehre I train and live."
ah but you dont understand hypocrisy, mainly since you are a consummate hypocrite...
thats right timmy, feed the rage... your gonna spout off for 3 hours again right? ok, GO!
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown LOL,, I think you created this sea bean guy so you could keep jacking off. Yes I show in my vids where I train and My hometown is shown along with my Real name. Anyone could find me, but you are still hiding, l Dan Bowen just spanked your ass again. lol eat that you pussy fart of a man. I want everyone that stumbles upon this video to know exactly what you are all about. I also want them to see that Dan Bowen does not take shit from troll fags. That is all you are.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown by the way my address is on the comments lower in this forum you have created. Of course an idiot and liar such as yourself would easily forget the truth and the fact that I have shown everything , you have shown nothing, but your cowardice. I am not wasting any more time with your bitch ass. You are too afraid to show who you are, so i know you are too afraid to actually fight anyone. You are just another little doggy trying to bark like a bad ass.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown listen listen we are all allowed to use everyday handwriting like we want, we dont need sentences, here so please, and really have you every been there you speak like you just come back from the dead, shut up man you are helberd Helebard vs. Sword and Shield HELEBARD MAN HELEBARD not helbred HELEBARD
oneSeabean 1 year ago
@oneSeabean
idiot moron...
do a google search, helebard 600 pages, Halberd 800000+
i think im gonna stick with the CORRECT spelling dan.
besides you would think you would like swords more considering you wore 12 at once like a fucking clown.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown hey sont block me im not Damn Brown I never blocked you LOL Dan Brown I dont even like a guy
oneSeabean 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown and how can you say that about myamoto No Kama Fujiwara No Genshin Musashi some people call me Musashi some people seriously im not joking now
oneSeabean 1 year ago
@oneSeabean
as for the media bonanza on the sword, the katana in particular...
of course its not a "fearsome weapon" the weapon shouldnt scare you, the wielder should.
im not saying that the katana is the best weapon, or even the best sword, its just really well designed for what it does...
you seem to be defending the techniques in the video... are you unable to see the clear holes in these techniques?
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
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@oneSeabean I have shown everything. you are still hiding. Therefore I get another Epic win over another fruitcake troll bitch. Thank for revealing the truth of your cowardice and ignorance. LOL fucking loser. You shall remain a fucking wannabe. You are one bad ass keyboard warrior. lol all talk, like I said. you are all talk
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
@oneSeabean
regardless of school trained fighters are taught to take whats offered... why would you hold you sword there when he did nothing but put the chain in front of his body?
and at :30 there is NOTHING stopping the sword sliding down the handle.
he does nothing to protect his hand, evidence that this technique is clearly BS...
if the guy was wearing armor, i can still kill him... it just takes more time/accuracy.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown I still haven't seen any dead bodies in your uploads ?
oneSeabean 1 year ago
-sigh- oh the ignorance...
dont you ever get tired of building strawmen dan?
i never said ninjutsu was fake, i said that people teaching "ninjutsu" are teaching fake ninjutsu...
the two are entirely different things, of course, since you cannot attack my arguments with logic you must respond in a way that elicits a defense of an argument i didnt make...
my entire youtube channel is devoted to debunking retards like dan who think that you can lie on the internet with impunity.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown noup dude Im not any Dan Bowen or Dan Brown or anything similar I hate Dan Brown if that is the guy
oneSeabean 1 year ago
@oneSeabean
as a tip, its usually a good idea to make a NEW sock puppet account when you want to harass someone again....
you have used this one before in our interactions during your sexual harassment of the minors that resulted in your BAN on SacredFireDojoShow....
seriously... im done toying with you.. i know that it eats you up that you dont have my address when you could have ... and that misery is exquisite, but please continue your tirade... its good for my comment count.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown
no my friend im not Dan I watch Chosen ninja because he is interesting person but nothing more than that and Im not a ninja I dint know how this came about, I practice martial arts but I kick ass and people hate me because Im good really, no one appreciates me. Dan is very appreciated cock sucker
oneSeabean 1 year ago
@oneSeabean my cok is sucked very much thank you. I also go down on my wife, she loves my tongue. Unlike you fucking virgins who have never been inside a real woman.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown I never sexually harassed no one is this a joke and im not banned from SacredFireDojoShow and I dont know what it is, man Im Serbian seriously and I believe in God so please stop saying that I was harassing anyone. I love you all no mater how sick you are etc I love you like a healthy person loves sick but I love you with whole of my hearth !
oneSeabean 1 year ago
@oneSeabean @oneSeabean uh...
dude did you not read the comment?
you have ALREADY USED THIS SOCK ACCOUNT WITH ME BEFORE.
seriously dude... are you new or something?
i dont know why you think that normal people hide their account details.. only socks do that shit...
of course, if you WERENT a sock, you would show you page, and show that you ARE subbed to dan's little merry band of faggots...
the only appreciation dan gets is from fags like himself.
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown HEY I DONT LIKE SUCKERS LIKE DAN WTF WHAT DAN DONT ATTACK ME OVER THAT SICK BOY. I DONT HAVE REAL INFORMATION ON ACCOUNT BECAUSE I HAVE SOME ENEMIES NOT FROM INTERNET BUT FROM REAL LIFE WHO HATE ME AND I DONT WANT TO GET STUPID MESSAGES FROM THEM
oneSeabean 1 year ago
@oneSeabean
if you watch choson you are my enemy, you are paying a man that lies to THOUSANDS of CHILDREN.
i am uninterested in your excuses... you have already been found to be using a sock dan... do i have to get your new channel banned for gaming?
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown LOL I dont watch him my younger brother do Im wing chun guy not a ninja, please stop with mentioning Dan Brown I'll never watch chosen ninja again just dont attack me with that crap, please. I also trained karate and im good and i trained russian systema for few days and i really loved it its a good training, but im good in WC and Karate no ninjitsu I like creations of my own like you, like Russian Martial art check it out
oneSeabean 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown LOL, You are so delusional. You think this poor piece of shit is me. I forgot all about your ass until I saw some comment form this loser that closed his account. God, you are a fucking imbecile. Not to mention a coward and a worthless twat that has to hide behind a fake account. anonymous pussy fart. LOL
Your so hilarious. Your life is so pathetic that you actually have to talk shit about my reputation.Seriously that should say something. to you. You are less than me.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
@oneSeabean lol this is so great. You fucking morons. It is like watching the special olympics, yeah you might have won a medal, but your still a fucking retard. LOL
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
@oneSeabean I suck? Wow you don't even know what the fuck your talking about. You and this coward ass bitch can fight it out.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
lol forget this guy. his entire youtube account is centered round bashing ninjutsu and he's arguing with dozens of people on videos all over youtube. im pretty sure that doesnt leave much time for actual training. just some other random bitch ass troll without a life. or actually one thats fixated around proving ninjutsu is fake.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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DanBowenTV 1 year ago
I'm prompted to wonder how Connor Mcloud would have handled this
rawhide901 1 year ago
@rawhide901 @rawhide90
dont mind dan, he is still crying cuz he thought we forgot his original account "SacredFireDojoShow" was banned for sexually harassing 14 year old boys...
he wanted my address and couldnt recieve it cuz i was blocked... gotta love tough guys that pick a fight with their ears shut...
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown wow, you are still saying my accounts were closed by youtube. you really don't get it do you. You are a chicken shit coward who spreads lies. Fuck your faggot ass and all the little Homo cock suckers you support. SACREDFIREDOJOSHOW was my fifth youtube. for new bad ass vids go to DanbowenTV mother fucker.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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@Creationsofmyown You have given up the fight and bowed out so I win by default. I have shown everything, you still hide behind lies and cowardice.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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@Creationsofmyown You have given up the fight and bowed out so I win by default. I have shown everything, you still hide behind lies and cowardice.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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DanBowenTV 1 year ago
@DanBowenTV maybe the guy just has a life and can't be bothered? Given that the point of many martial disciplines is to overcome the ego.
rawhide901 1 year ago
@rawhide901 NO he talks shit tells lies and then will not reveal his identity you worthless fuck.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
@DanBowenTV You don't sound very centred to me. If martial arts aren't working for...Have you ever considered the benefits of psycoanalysis?
rawhide901 1 year ago
@rawhide901 If you watched any of my videos you would clearly see I am a very talented and creative individual. When some asshole spreads lies challenges me to a fight and then chickens out I have a right to get bent out of shape. Maybe you should analyze the trolls you associate with. Maybe you should shut the fuck up because you have no idea what you are talking about, thank you.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
@DanBowenTV Hi Dan, Nice to hear from you again. Something told me you'd be back in touch. Ur so angry! I'm beginin to wonder if the stories about u n 14yo boys bottom holes are true. Tell u what, u can reply to this calling me a cunt or something like that and then we'll leave it there. U have the last word on me. U always like the last word. I gotta b careful who I associate with. lol
rawhide901 1 year ago
@rawhide901 yes it is true I told a couple of 17 year olds to go fuck each other because they were being douchebags. I never had any account closed though. Sorry, if you are going to fuck with me I will tell you where to stick no matter what age. As far as my sexual orientation I am married to a hot wife unlike the majority of you anonymous troll fags.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
@DanBowenTV Dan you suck man
oneSeabean 1 year ago
@oneSeabean @oneSeabean
-yawn- your trying too hard dan... we all know your a fake ass piece of shit... for fuck sakes i have a pm from you to dean that says how your done with choson yet your still sucking away on his cock....
and sure dude people call you musashi...
Creationsofmyown 1 year ago
@Creationsofmyown Yawn, Yep I am the one who hides his identity and talks like a big dog. Keep on enjoying your little world you live in. The walls are closing in little rat. Soon you will be strangled by your own actions and lies. LOL this is actually entertaining me. thanks bro. you rock. I love CHOSON NINJA, he is my hero and would love to suck his cock dry.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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You have given up the fight and bowed out so I win by default. I have shown everything, you still hide behind lies and cowardice.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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You have given up the fight and bowed out so I win by default. I have shown everything, you still hide behind lies and cowardice.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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You have given up the fight and bowed out so I win by default. I have shown everything, you still hide behind lies and cowardice.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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You have given up the fight and bowed out so I win by default. I have shown everything, you still hide behind lies and cowardice.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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You have given up the fight and bowed out so I win by default. I have shown everything, you still hide behind lies and cowardice.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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You have given up the fight and bowed out so I win by default. I have shown everything, you still hide behind lies and cowardice.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
You have given up the fight and bowed out so I win by default. I have shown everything, you still hide behind lies and cowardice.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
You have given up the fight and bowed out so I win by default. I have shown everything, you still hide behind lies and cowardice.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
You have given up the fight and bowed out so I win by default. I have shown everything, you still hide behind lies and cowardice.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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I have shown everything. you are still hiding. Therefore I get another Epic win over another fruitcake troll bitch. Thank you for revealing the truth of your cowardice and ignorance. LOL fucking loser. You shall remain a fucking wannabe. You are one bad ass keyboard warrior. lol all talk, like I said. you are all talk.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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I have shown everything. you are still hiding. Therefore I get another Epic win over another fruitcake troll bitch. Thank you for revealing the truth of your cowardice and ignorance. LOL fucking loser. You shall remain a fucking wannabe. You are one bad ass keyboard warrior. lol all talk, like I said. you are all talk.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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I have shown everything. you are still hiding. Therefore I get another Epic win over another fruitcake troll bitch. Thank you for revealing the truth of your cowardice and ignorance. LOL fucking loser. You shall remain a fucking wannabe. You are one bad ass keyboard warrior. lol all talk, like I said. you are all talk.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
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I have shown everything. you are still hiding. Therefore I get another Epic win over another fruitcake troll bitch. Thank you for revealing the truth of your cowardice and ignorance. LOL fucking loser. You shall remain a fucking wannabe. You are one bad ass keyboard warrior. lol all talk, like I said. you are all talk.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I have shown everything. you are still hiding. Therefore I get another Epic win over another fruitcake troll bitch. Thank you for revealing the truth of your cowardice and ignorance. LOL fucking loser. You shall remain a fucking wannabe. You are one bad ass keyboard warrior. lol all talk, like I said. you are all talk.
DanBowenTV 1 year ago