Newday 2009 - 'How did we get here?' 12-14's meeting, Andrew Wilson

[raginmagin]

MARY GIVING BIRTH TO JESUS IS ONE LITTLE SLUTS LIE THAT GOT OUT OF HAND

[piecesofexistence]

@raginmagin yet the child that was born just happened to fulfill all the prophesies made 1000s of years before?

[raginmagin]

theres no evidence of god, god does not exist

[piecesofexistence]

@raginmagin No evidence? Try telling that to the people who used to be terminally ill but are now living perfectly healthily after prayer

[raginmagin]

@piecesofexistence thank GOD for the national healthcare system

[raginmagin]

@piecesofexistence thank GOD for modern day medicine

[FoundingPrinciples]

@raginmagin I pitty you. I don't mean that as an insult or a judgment or to suggest I am better than you. In my experience, people who show such hatred and vitriol towards God and people who believe in God are bitter because they feel somehow wronged by someone. Or maybe you just want to get a rise out of people by offending them. Either way, I believe in God. I am not offended if you don't. So why do you seem so offended by those of us who do? Peace and love.

[TheSaviourslove]

missginger1234... in the bible it says god never had a beginning nor end. therefore anything outside of the beginning of the universe must be supernatural, which is exactly what god is.

[SnoweyRawr]

@missginger1234 Nothing comes from nothing so universe had to come from somewhere. Where did God come from? If he has no beginning, no end then so does the universe, its not one rule for one set of believes and vise versa.

[SnoweyRawr]

@missginger1234 But where did God come from? Nothing comes from nothing, if god just "existed" then the big bang can just "exist" because its not one rule for one theory and one rule for the other.

[myshuno383]

something cant come from nothing, that doesn't make any sense. and the something just hasnt always been, there had to be a beginning. the universe cant just pop into existence, something had to create it

god cant just pop into existence, something had to create it.

[ugoalex]

The last quote just means that it would be easier for people to understand that the universe was created by a god than explain some of the theories behind how it could have been created scientifically.

[movadoband]

I like it

[tallicafan86]

if something designed us, then what designed it? life wasnt planned. especially when you throw in the idea of evolution. it just happened over 15 billions years of chains of events. there is no meaning of life, as there is no meaning for why the rocks are arranged outside the way they are. they just are, its where they ended up at this point in time. it only all seems impossible from our point of view. there are so many answers we probably wont ever know, the god model is just an easy answer.

[faro0485]

@tallicafan86 Then... you're saying that there's no meaning to your words even? Okay well, we can ignore you as random noise.

[vmossimo]

trilogyoforiginsorg

[vmossimo]

If we never question our existence, Religion evolution, nor science would not exist. Through science, the knowlege of the natural world or creation, both religionand evolution tries to defines mankind's existence. Through science religions believe tha we were created, and through science evolution beleives we evolved.

[teeoh38]

"There is probably no God" - Stpehen Hawking 2010

[tazyload]

Good video, but the same point is always missed, we know 100x more about the universe than we did 100 years ago and we will continue to make new discoveries which will make what we know now look like childsplay. All im saying is that the idea of a "creator" is an easy filler until we gain further knowledge of the universe. We haven't even managed to leave our own solar system yet so to presume that either science or religion has any complete answers is foolish.

Much love tho to all! :-D

[raysofgreys]

Great video! I would love to see it in other languages as well. Is there any plans of (re)making it for other nations?

[thicketwings05]

whats the song called?

[sunrisesotrue]

How did we get here?

What caused the big bang?

What caused stars and planets to form afterwards?

Answer: 'Such is God your Lord,the creator of all things: there is no god but Him. How can you be so deluded?' Quran 40:62

Not Jesus, as he did not put us on earth because he wasn't alive when the universe was being created. And thus he did not cause the big bang and did not cause the stars and planets to form afterwards.

[sunrisesotrue]

God created all nd he Only deserves to be worshiped. He does not need to reveal himslef, his creation points 2 him enough. If he did life wd nt hv been a test.

[joelfwilson]

I agree with the message but I am not 100% god would be behind the cross.  but for all I know I could be wrong. so I stay unsure. all's I know is I am 100% for what's right. and if thats god I thank you and am on your side. if not then what is is what is and I am thankful for what it is always trying to make what is better.

[sunrisesotrue]

@joelfwilson How did we get here?

What caused the big bang?

What caused stars and planets to form afterwards?

Answer: 'Such is God your Lord,the creator of all things: there is no god but Him' Quran 40:62

Not Jesus peace be upon him as he did not put us on earth because he wasn't alive when the universe was being created. And thus he did not cause the big bang and did not cause the stars and planets to form afterwards.

[davidharryprosser]

@sunrisesotrue I wouldn't say life is a test, nor would I say that Jesus created the world, God did. Also this is discussing the Christian God, not your Muslim God.

[sunrisesotrue]

hi davidharryprosser. my Lord, your Lord and the Lord of the universe is One. There is no God but He the creator of the universe and us, and thus the only One worthy of our worship and submission.

[davidharryprosser]

@sunrisesotrue sorry, i don't sit with this, the views seem to differ and our bibles portray God differently, so I can't accept they're the same, but each to their own, I respect your views, but don't agree with that theory. :) nice day

[Elleluvsyoux]

i love this vid :) god bless x

[CapnBirdsye]

Guy's don't base your faith in scientific arguments. Just because you can't explain something doesn't mean God did it.

Base your faith in trust, not proof.

[enginiseer]

hm great vid, But i wud like to believe that ther r trillions of other universes and this one jus got it right by accident, and the reason we live in this one, is cos if the others got it wrong , we cudnt live ther cud we, this one, was the onli chance we had to pop into exsistence, thats not luck or chance thats certainty, we had to exsist in this one universe.

[sunrisesotrue]

@enginiseer U know sadly tht the clock is ticking nd when it’s time u or I will be gone nd it will be 2 late to accept God if one hasn’t. Make use of every min God gave it to u so u know him and worship him. God said: Say, ‘He is God the One, God the eternal. He begot no one nor was he begotten. No one is comparable to him. Quran: (112)

[sunrisesotrue]

@enginiseer That there is indeed a creator who initiated and created us and the universe?

It’s nt abt wt we wd like to think, its abt wt is the truth nd wt r the evidence tht point 2 it. God said: ‘These people merely follow guesswork and the whims of their souls, even though guidance has come to them from their Lord’.53:23

[sunrisesotrue]

@enginiseer the wonders and complexities of the universe, our bodies and everything around us invite us to think that there is indeed a powerful intelligent designer behind such a magnificent design?

[KatieMegann96]

That gave me shivers down my spine, its so good, im going to show my non-christian friends this deffo..! x

[CootsProductions]

but if time has always existed then we had an infinate ammount of time for that 1 in 10 to the power of 60 chance to happen. I liked the effects in the video just not sure about the biased standpoint.

[TeddyFlutes]

i was only there for a few nights, only like 3days, that could be why. But i'll be going next year for the full time.

[Aramiak]

Hey 'TeddyFlutes'... if you wanna message me, you can ask all the questions you want, i'll explain anything i can. But i've been in exactly your position before, so might be able to help?

[TeddyFlutes]

hello mate, thanks alot for the offer, but i've already spoken to someone ages ago, and they answer all my questions, i posted that when i was Agnostic, i can proudly say im Christain now. thanks alot though mate.

[dancer9597]

Does anybody know the song to this video?

[ballroombabe94]

Take the World - Tim Hughes

[TeddyFlutes]

but who created God?

[xXsavemylifeXx]

Nothing. If you think about it, there must have been a 'start', something that started everything. everything has to have a cause right? like, if you were late for something, there would be a cause, and a cause for that. Just like in the creation of the world, however there HAD to be something that was the first cause- God. :)

[TeddyFlutes]

that still doesn't answer my question, i went to Newday this year because i wasnt really into religion that much, and Newday still hasn't converted me.

[xXsavemylifeXx]

um, i dont really know how other to explain it than simply, nothing created him. Buut, if theres more you are wondering about, feel free to message me :)

[koowl10]

if it hasent converted u, thats fine(it would be good if it had):)

but what about the healing night? did that not say anything?

i av been goin to newday 4 a few yrs nd the first year really cleared my mind and awnsewered a lot of my confusions.

i know everyone is diffrent and newday may not have cleared all your questions.its just jesus sacrifised his life and i think everyone should see who he is and then make a decsion. is you do av questions i do think u should get them answered,maybe? = ]

[rozzerallen]

Nothing, due to His metaphysical nature He is uncreated. He is the plug of the infinite regress.

[Chris54874]

Very Very Very COOL, Wow

[emilycanseethestars]

fantastic!

all the talks by andrew at the 12-14s meetings were excellent.

God Bless