On the small thumbnail of this video it looked like that object up the top right was another plane landing from right to left infront of you.. crazy eyes i have
hey im going to seneca next year for the aviation program i just had my tour today.. seneca looks amazing, fascinating 172s and the twin engines and the bonanzas also i flew the crj200 sim amazing
Student pilot learning 'circuits' and landings. I've always feared landing after my first attempt because I thought I came in hard and almost broke the plane, even though I came in with main wheels touching first.
Was so scared, I did every landing nose wheel first after that, to the shock and horror of my instructor...
Oh I know what happened. It's called a porpoise. The main-gear hits first and it just bounces the nose right back up and then in reaction the pilot pitches back down, causing the same action to repeat. If you porpoise the first time, you're supposed to hold the nose up and flare until you stall-->causing you to land, like in every other landing. People forget that a true landing is supposed to be where the plane stalls inches above the runway, which causes it to settle down nicely.
true except the nose gear touches first. not the main gear. he didn't put throttle to idle until after he started porpoising. otherwise this woudn't of happened
That depends entirely on what type of aircraft you fly. Larger aircraft--especially passenger aircraft--should maintain power until touchdown. The less time you spend floating above the runway, the less chance there is for a disasterous gust of wind.
Also, maintaining thrust ensures strong contact between the rubber and the pavement which is especially important in slick conditions.
That will work in smaller aircraft where your Vref is at a much slower speed (close to stall speed). But in a larger aircraft under a Bravo, traffic is in and around 170kias to the diamond and flaring until a stall is impractical. In fact an ILS approach will be mostly pitched down 2.5 degrees while simultaneously decreasing the throttle. A gentle rounded flare with no power should land you under 50fpm before the 1000ft line.
On short final the props should be set to full fine pitch in preparation for a go around so the likelyhood is that they won't be synced. Anyway, on short final synchronisation doesn't matter a damn, you should be concentrating on flying the plane!
propeller synchronization at 17 inches of manifold pressure is oftentimes not possible.
Besides, it's hardly a primary concern on final....I was much less impressed with that landing and the lack of inputs to more immediately stop that PIO.
landing at larger airfield from smaller ones is a visual deception, you tend to flare earlier then you should, hence the balloning, it takes a bit of time, but once you get the perspective you will be fine,
don't worry about it, the threshold speed looked OK, just keep at it my friend.
I wasn't the one landing, i was filming. The two guys flying were high time CFI/CFII's, the illusion didn't get them. The fact that he carried a couple extra inches of power on approach added to the float.
On the small thumbnail of this video it looked like that object up the top right was another plane landing from right to left infront of you.. crazy eyes i have
Cationification 10 months ago
hey im going to seneca next year for the aviation program i just had my tour today.. seneca looks amazing, fascinating 172s and the twin engines and the bonanzas also i flew the crj200 sim amazing
fmrlx 10 months ago
That game has pretty good graphics. Resolution is a bit bad though.
Rybread34 1 year ago
@Rybread34 wow.
hyegolfer 1 year ago
captain cangaroo air lol
we all have a bad one
crapper1 1 year ago
LOL! I think this vid helped me a bit
Student pilot learning 'circuits' and landings. I've always feared landing after my first attempt because I thought I came in hard and almost broke the plane, even though I came in with main wheels touching first.
Was so scared, I did every landing nose wheel first after that, to the shock and horror of my instructor...
51040007 1 year ago
by my count he landed 4 times.
MrDanieldb 1 year ago
More like a smooth landing
jonahair747meteors6 1 year ago
Nice ground effect.
TehB0ss 1 year ago
Pilots should keep the nose up!
maestrosVIP 2 years ago
Oh I know what happened. It's called a porpoise. The main-gear hits first and it just bounces the nose right back up and then in reaction the pilot pitches back down, causing the same action to repeat. If you porpoise the first time, you're supposed to hold the nose up and flare until you stall-->causing you to land, like in every other landing. People forget that a true landing is supposed to be where the plane stalls inches above the runway, which causes it to settle down nicely.
sk8drumdie0116 2 years ago 13
true except the nose gear touches first. not the main gear. he didn't put throttle to idle until after he started porpoising. otherwise this woudn't of happened
SuperMcfly12 2 years ago
Right sorry, that's what I meant :] typo
sk8drumdie0116 2 years ago
i figured...you seem to know your stuff
SuperMcfly12 2 years ago
That depends entirely on what type of aircraft you fly. Larger aircraft--especially passenger aircraft--should maintain power until touchdown. The less time you spend floating above the runway, the less chance there is for a disasterous gust of wind.
Also, maintaining thrust ensures strong contact between the rubber and the pavement which is especially important in slick conditions.
naval8viator 1 year ago
@sk8drumdie0116
That will work in smaller aircraft where your Vref is at a much slower speed (close to stall speed). But in a larger aircraft under a Bravo, traffic is in and around 170kias to the diamond and flaring until a stall is impractical. In fact an ILS approach will be mostly pitched down 2.5 degrees while simultaneously decreasing the throttle. A gentle rounded flare with no power should land you under 50fpm before the 1000ft line.
andyseesvideos 1 year ago
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strange. ive never done that in my citation. maybe he didnt flare enough.
phillipseric 3 years ago
u never done that in your citation.. hmm ok
AreeYouSerious 2 years ago
Lol how cute, you think you own a Citation.
agentfazexx 2 years ago
Agreed toastno6, I've never been worried about prop sync on short final. Props are always forward ready for a go around.
john5msu 3 years ago 3
On short final the props should be set to full fine pitch in preparation for a go around so the likelyhood is that they won't be synced. Anyway, on short final synchronisation doesn't matter a damn, you should be concentrating on flying the plane!
toastno6 3 years ago
Hard to sync to sync 17 inches? Really? IS that the case for the lycoming 360s?
I only fly the 540s on the aztec...never tried the 360s?
starlinestudios 3 years ago
Jeez....who was the instructor aboard???
Does he know how to prop sync??
Just hear the low frequency sounds...that's the propeller moving at different speeds.
starlinestudios 3 years ago
propeller synchronization at 17 inches of manifold pressure is oftentimes not possible.
Besides, it's hardly a primary concern on final....I was much less impressed with that landing and the lack of inputs to more immediately stop that PIO.
hartjason 3 years ago
well those types of lansings happen...just have to keep your concentration. Even my more experienced students pull weird stuff like that..
Read comment above.
starlinestudios 3 years ago
when u put the props full fine, thats when u have to use ur throttles to sync the props. hard at first but u get use to it
goghostie 3 years ago
never mind keep at it,
landing at larger airfield from smaller ones is a visual deception, you tend to flare earlier then you should, hence the balloning, it takes a bit of time, but once you get the perspective you will be fine,
don't worry about it, the threshold speed looked OK, just keep at it my friend.
baronzee 3 years ago
I wasn't the one landing, i was filming. The two guys flying were high time CFI/CFII's, the illusion didn't get them. The fact that he carried a couple extra inches of power on approach added to the float.
Lineguy04 3 years ago
@Lineguy04 lol @ high time CFI's......thats friggin funny.
beergut111 1 year ago