this means in about 2 years this will be the best way to do animations for web...
i know programmers dont like flash...but hey... chill out.. Flash is here to stay and it gives more interactivity and options for the web than html...its the truth
If the pathetic company that is Apple would stop blocking Flash, Adobe wouldn't have to make such a useless piece of software. Adobe developers could work on more imaginative software.
The point is, you could never code all that fancy animation by hand in HTML5. You need Flash to do it. And if you need Flash to do it, then you don't need HTML5!
Grow up Apple! Do the right thing, and join the rest of every smart phone and tablet out there. Your products are becoming deprecated.
@haya1299 HAHAH ... that's awesome. You clearly have no idea how ubiquitous and pervasive and powerful Flash is on the internet. Newbie!
Apple products are slowly becoming deprecated. As new products allow users to access the entire Internet, Apple users will begin to resent the fact that game websites, pornography, animations, videos, google analytics, etc are ALL being blocked by Apple.
You keep protecting your precious Apple company. But the rest of us will enjoy the unfiltered Internet.
How can we know if every HTML5 compliant browser will render it EXACTLY the same way? It's not like browsers have had a good track record with this very thing.
a) AFAIK, the flash licence allows you to export fla files, but does NOT allow you to import them. If I'm not mistaken, these guys are in for legal trouble.
b) How long will it for Adobe to hire these guys or hire hitmen? :)
instead i think this is a huge step forward. yes many divs there are. how many divs would you be using and how much work would this be if you try to do it by hand? besides being peissimistic, do you think this is the final stage of this conversion tool? i would say that in many cases there can be a lot of work for long animations, but what if you were to write something a little bit smaller? i feel there is always this negation towards Adobe Flash even trying, it's not good enough?
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Awesome! but it sucks it doesnt convert action script. Safari, Chrome, Firefox should support native actionscript. then 10 years later internet explorer follows xD.
@Zillionair1 Depends on the platform. I believe flash has good, hardware video acceleration on windows, but that might not be the case on OSX or Linux.
@Zillionair1 rarely. Converting code to another language will always cause worse performance that it would be if you were to remake it in its entirely. However, this reduction in performance can be so miniscule that it doesn't matter.
@PornoGraaf All valid doctypes can be used in HTML5, in fact the XML serialisation of the HTML5 spec even allows you to use no doctype at all, and still render the page in standards mode.
Most people use the new short one because it's easy to type, but you can use any.
Great, generated code that is easy to edit /sarcasm.
This is bullshit. Also people using Windows for non .NET development is just plain retarded. And who the fuck uses Dreameweaver for serious front-end dev?
Hey - if this works, Flash ain't goin' nowhere. I for one like this, as I think Flash is decent for doing animations. That said, I don't see any interactive elements...just animation. Maybe only non-interactive parts can be converted (which would make this pointless)
its about css, not about including graphics. they just want to bypass it.
its like i wanted to make a webpage look exactly as i want in a browser, that doesn't support my website.
compared to adobe, i would just go to my website, capture a video of it and embed it in my site and say it is optimized for this special kind of browser.
adobe is emulating flash, and you know that emulations are slow!
if there was a way to block that shit i would use it. its NOT faster than flash, its not CSS or HTML5
If it is HTML5 why the doctype is XHTML 1.0 strict? Check how many divs and inline images are being used. This isn't a step forward but a huge jump backwards... it's all about hype...
@millerhbm If you knew what HTML5 actually was (the specification not the buzzword), you'd be aware divs, inline images and XHTML 1.0 Strict DOCTYPE's are all allowed.
@curly95432 in fact I do know what HTML5 is.. and I even gave a presentation about it a couple months ago ( blog[dot]millermedeiros[dot]com/2010/07/html5-overview/ ) - it's not about of being allowed or not. it's because the code it generates is far from being HTML5 and "good".
@millerhbm Your presentation does look pretty decent. However, it seems to me the comment about (to which I originally replied) was written by someone other than the author of that presentation. Sure your account hasn't been compromised?
FYI, doctype is retained in HTML5 for backwards compatibility, to avoid quirksmode - it's no longer relevant as a type indicator though. The short doctype is used most often because it is easy to remember, but whatever doctype you choose to use is irrelevant
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partnerhit 1 month ago
I want to persue a career as an actionscriptor. I wonder the future job outlook?
packersrogers 2 months ago
i dont get it -_-
robertonator101 10 months ago
@robertonator101 it shows a program to make flash stuff into HTML5 stuff so you can use it on no-flash gadgets like iPhone, iPad, iPod touch etc.
VuRp0 9 months ago
I like flash because of its enviorment
answerOfstupids 11 months ago
this means in about 2 years this will be the best way to do animations for web...
i know programmers dont like flash...but hey... chill out.. Flash is here to stay and it gives more interactivity and options for the web than html...its the truth
CreativedotMedia 1 year ago
Wooohoooooo!!!!!!!!!!
rfvlima 1 year ago
This video was what I needed for my html project. Thanks.
howtocreatewebsite 1 year ago
awesome
MyWonderApple 1 year ago
Working demo preview: Oct 2010; Tool launch: Mar 2011.. Why?
SuperSachin 1 year ago
Great. Adobe should include a "Flash Import and Conversion" into DreamWeaver.
WebZopp 1 year ago
Add Action Script. Then I will use it.
09optime 1 year ago
If the pathetic company that is Apple would stop blocking Flash, Adobe wouldn't have to make such a useless piece of software. Adobe developers could work on more imaginative software.
The point is, you could never code all that fancy animation by hand in HTML5. You need Flash to do it. And if you need Flash to do it, then you don't need HTML5!
Grow up Apple! Do the right thing, and join the rest of every smart phone and tablet out there. Your products are becoming deprecated.
dweeper1020 1 year ago
Flash is junk and you know it. Adobe is who should grow up. Adobe refuses to let go of their outdated and cumbersome Flash.
haya1299 1 year ago
@haya1299 HAHAH ... that's awesome. You clearly have no idea how ubiquitous and pervasive and powerful Flash is on the internet. Newbie!
Apple products are slowly becoming deprecated. As new products allow users to access the entire Internet, Apple users will begin to resent the fact that game websites, pornography, animations, videos, google analytics, etc are ALL being blocked by Apple.
You keep protecting your precious Apple company. But the rest of us will enjoy the unfiltered Internet.
dweeper1020 1 year ago 6
thumbs up is mac rumors brought you here :)
ObviouslyAwsome 1 year ago
All flash nay sayers should just go die now. Adobe just pwned.
nizamm 1 year ago
No support for actionsscript? Useless then ...
stuffJM 1 year ago 2
Does not work will all of my old .fla files
richlove99 1 year ago
Nice Star Trek Duds
VerizonWireless 1 year ago 3
Hahahahaha flash is dead apple win again
WATSONMUTH 1 year ago
Thank you Adobe!
benghaith 1 year ago 4
LMAO at people cheering then he tells them this is what there really not trying to do.
silver911surfer 1 year ago
Question
1) how do i get HTML ? " Cant find it "
2) what program was he using to do the animation? was it Adobe flash ?
sorry... am new
WaterMation08 1 year ago
@WaterMation08 "how do i get HTML ?" are you for real?
ssantaclause 1 year ago
@WaterMation08 new at living?
Time4Me2GoHARD 1 year ago
@Time4Me2GoHARD haha no am just a kid that is stupid that should learn to keep his mouth shut
WaterMation08 11 months ago
How can we know if every HTML5 compliant browser will render it EXACTLY the same way? It's not like browsers have had a good track record with this very thing.
waitingroom05 1 year ago
Where can we get that app? What was its name? Wallaby?
BobbyBerberyan 1 year ago
Really cool stuff :)
tonyblade67 1 year ago 2
I was wondering about two things:
a) AFAIK, the flash licence allows you to export fla files, but does NOT allow you to import them. If I'm not mistaken, these guys are in for legal trouble.
b) How long will it for Adobe to hire these guys or hire hitmen? :)
ixnaycrypticmind 1 year ago
Steve Jobs' reality distortion fields have worked!
cruiseoveride 1 year ago 2
I...am...drooling. For basic photo galleries, and the like, this just rocks the Casbah! The applause @ 1:10 is WELL DESERVED.
therototube 1 year ago
instead i think this is a huge step forward. yes many divs there are. how many divs would you be using and how much work would this be if you try to do it by hand? besides being peissimistic, do you think this is the final stage of this conversion tool? i would say that in many cases there can be a lot of work for long animations, but what if you were to write something a little bit smaller? i feel there is always this negation towards Adobe Flash even trying, it's not good enough?
juan1974mendez 1 year ago 3
awsome!!!!
but flash rly sux everytime i go 2 southpark the brower crashes (with chrome it works now but the othe browsers always crashed)
V0J0K0 1 year ago
Great job Adobe! We appreciate your efforts...
benghaith 1 year ago 4
this is absurd. If you want flash-like animations for iPhone and the like use Sencha Animator instead
Ramonacus 1 year ago
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violafinishda 1 year ago
Size? System load? Pathetic attempt to make bullet from piece of shit.
shoorikv 1 year ago
Interview with Adam Cath from Catalyst team and another man from the Adobe Air team.
/watch?v=dDobpny8cgI
pineneedleproduction 1 year ago
Awesome! but it sucks it doesnt convert action script. Safari, Chrome, Firefox should support native actionscript. then 10 years later internet explorer follows xD.
iisdan 1 year ago
Is it more efficient after being converted to HTML5?
Zillionair1 1 year ago
@Zillionair1 Depends on the platform. I believe flash has good, hardware video acceleration on windows, but that might not be the case on OSX or Linux.
ufee 1 year ago
@Zillionair1 rarely. Converting code to another language will always cause worse performance that it would be if you were to remake it in its entirely. However, this reduction in performance can be so miniscule that it doesn't matter.
According to this demo it didn't seem to matter.
MicroHive 1 year ago 3
wow!!!
yohonlh 1 year ago
HTML5? ... hmmm Why use XHTML Strict then ?
PornoGraaf 1 year ago
@PornoGraaf All valid doctypes can be used in HTML5, in fact the XML serialisation of the HTML5 spec even allows you to use no doctype at all, and still render the page in standards mode.
Most people use the new short one because it's easy to type, but you can use any.
curly95432 1 year ago
Great, generated code that is easy to edit /sarcasm.
This is bullshit. Also people using Windows for non .NET development is just plain retarded. And who the fuck uses Dreameweaver for serious front-end dev?
seivanheidari 1 year ago
ActionScript developers are gonna be in high demand still.. I know HTML developers won't be too happy!
MikeHuntingtonTV 1 year ago
"and you dont need a high power device. It works on your iPhone"
GuiltWolf 1 year ago
Awesome!!!
stoneyiyi 1 year ago
He's in a Star Trek shirt because William Shatner was hosting. He took over for Leonard Nimoy who was sick.
Steamforge 1 year ago
Hey - if this works, Flash ain't goin' nowhere. I for one like this, as I think Flash is decent for doing animations. That said, I don't see any interactive elements...just animation. Maybe only non-interactive parts can be converted (which would make this pointless)
scottcarmichael 1 year ago
its about css, not about including graphics. they just want to bypass it.
its like i wanted to make a webpage look exactly as i want in a browser, that doesn't support my website.
compared to adobe, i would just go to my website, capture a video of it and embed it in my site and say it is optimized for this special kind of browser.
adobe is emulating flash, and you know that emulations are slow!
if there was a way to block that shit i would use it. its NOT faster than flash, its not CSS or HTML5
Blinkwing 1 year ago
WOW!
@millerhbm: You are right but I think that is just a matter of time.
TheNob089 1 year ago
Flash developers are going nowhere!
jvanja 1 year ago
please don't do that! use canvas, or keep flash player, but dont' oversaturate with non-content, non-semantic code.
Powerful, but bad idea at all
hasbs3h5236 1 year ago
If it is HTML5 why the doctype is XHTML 1.0 strict? Check how many divs and inline images are being used. This isn't a step forward but a huge jump backwards... it's all about hype...
millerhbm 1 year ago 7
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rcabanie 1 year ago
@millerhbm If you knew what HTML5 actually was (the specification not the buzzword), you'd be aware divs, inline images and XHTML 1.0 Strict DOCTYPE's are all allowed.
curly95432 1 year ago 40
@curly95432 in fact I do know what HTML5 is.. and I even gave a presentation about it a couple months ago ( blog[dot]millermedeiros[dot]com/2010/07/html5-overview/ ) - it's not about of being allowed or not. it's because the code it generates is far from being HTML5 and "good".
millerhbm 1 year ago
@millerhbm Your presentation does look pretty decent. However, it seems to me the comment about (to which I originally replied) was written by someone other than the author of that presentation. Sure your account hasn't been compromised?
FYI, doctype is retained in HTML5 for backwards compatibility, to avoid quirksmode - it's no longer relevant as a type indicator though. The short doctype is used most often because it is easy to remember, but whatever doctype you choose to use is irrelevant
curly95432 1 year ago
@millerhbm there is not so big number of tags or lines of code for this kind of animation. on first sight it seems ok for me.
AlwaysAndForeverPFC 1 year ago
@millerhbm doctypes are irrelevant. Browsers barely use them anyway. It's markup and use of the new APIs that matter.
bentruymanibile 11 months ago
Is he wearing a Star Trek outfit?
virgilsupreme 1 year ago 4
So it flickers and slow even in Chrome?
tezropunkel 1 year ago
Wow! Its awesome.
crypto3 1 year ago