@jcj83429 OR let's find a way to keep Hollywood from passing legislation that encourages selling DRM infected files. I'd like to pay for my music if at all possible.
...I just bought a TV that won't play DRMed MP3s and/or WMVs...
Yet non-DRM MP3s work just fine...
But the best part is 1080p Blu ray rips (MKV types) play just fine...
How freaking awesome/retarded is that? Here we are 2 years after this video is made and we can actually SEE this BS. not just with music, but with movies!
lol i could careless if i get caught lol its only only $2000 lol....thats chump change lol...i youse lime wire lol...oooo yea im a rebel...meh i dont rly care lol...and ooo its got viruses....ummmmm so far i got non lol.........
This is bull. I hate these record companies, I should be able to play the music I purchased wherever I want. I was going to buy an MP3 player until I figured out about this DRM crap.
You can still buy an MP3 player from a company that doesn't support DRM. The main DRM device is the Ipod... Also there are sites where you can buy music that doesn't have DRM on it.
LMAO CRAP! thanks, I'm just worried that if I buy a zune it won't play my music, not to mention purchasing music that won't play anywhere else. It reminds me how cell phone companies make all these different connections for accessories so you have to buy a whole new cell phone and the accessories for it when you switch phones and/or service.
lol dont buy music........download it for free...like i do lol....why would i wana pay 50 cents per song lol...fuck that....id rather steal it...its not bad...who cares...u wont get caught lol...
I notice myself buying less music and PC games because of DRM. I don't want to deal with the hassle and I don't want to be treated like a potential criminal. oh, well, I guess that frees up my money for other pursuits...
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The ironic thing about pirating DRM-encumbered music is that the *pirate* has more freedoms than a complying user. The pirate can copy it anywhere he likes, the complying user is bound by the DRM.
Does this make sense? No, you should NOT let yourself be treated like a criminal.
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Stupid thing is, DRM does nothing to stop piracy. There is no such thing as unbreakable DRM. And it's break-once, play everywhere.
DRM is purely about vendor lock-in, and making people buy extra copies of things they already own. In short, it's pure greed. Don't believe anyone who says DRM stops piracy (or even that piracy "threatens music") -- find out the facts first.
Great Video! This really shows it well. I agree that music needs to be paid for like anything else, but encrypting it is not the way to go. It angers users and doesn't stop hardcore pirates.
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no not quite, you have to pay for the servers, to hold the mp3's plus there's power and manpower, nothing's free, but it's extremely cheap to maintain, and cost very little on a large scale to distribute, nowhere near a dollar per transaction(probably closer to 5 cent if that)
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Writing, producing, mixing and recording the sounds which are then compressed into mp3 form costs money. Sometimes a lot of money. Are you really so ignorant to think otherwise? Then again with a user name like boobgurl77....
yup, maybe they can get some contracts from ISPs and have em check all MP3 traffic, then they pay the artists according to popularity (small sums which they collect through all broadband bills). Wont be totally accurate but hey :P
DRM isn't surprising. Its just the first time technology which allows this much control has come along. If they could have done the same with past technologies, they would have done so.
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Music always updates and makes it hard for those barely scraping by to be able to afford buying music. I can't even buy music on cassette tape anymore. They used to have albums on casette tape aty K-Mart for 5 dollars (I should've jumped on that when I had the chance)
It's funny, CD's are cheaper to produce than Tapes, and MP3's are cheaper than CD's (they cost almost nothing on large scale) so why buy a song for a buck, the artist isn't getting a buck, they get such a small percentage of that, that it forces the artist to defend the DRM just to make money on THEIR music... The outcome... only the company wins...
Boycott ALL DRM-mandatory devices & media. No one is forcing you to buy it. Boycott it, listen to the TV/radio, and watch DRM blow itself up. Is a gun pointed to your head to buy DRM-mandatory music or devices? No i don't think so...
i have most formats, but u cant beat vinyl for texture, visuals, sound, and collectability. mp3s wont last long cheap memory will make them irrelevant. when it doesnt matter what size your file is you may as well make it a big 1! cd stylee. try sticking drm on vinyl! if you havent got record decks you should get yourselves 2nd hand ones, have fun and really appreciate music. sometimes that means paying for it too! loved the vid and your music, cheers!
Then they will lose a hell of a lot of customers. I know a lot of people who buy itunes music just so they can burn it to CD and listen to it on their car stereo and elsewhere.
Wow. Why does it bother you when people ask questions like this? The sound is a part of the content. Regardless if it not the point of the post. The comments are for people to discuss and share information. If you don't know the name, just skip it and flame the guy who is really being an ass.
My friends and I have over 26,000 songs on our iTunes combined. Not once did we pay for a song. As if I'd pay for music.
Sorry DRM people, but for as long as theres a breath in my body, I will always get my music for free. Oh look, my CD that I just burned is finished. I must be off. Time to burn 6 more CDs before I have to work. Bye.
You can also play the song on your computer, then use sound recorder to record the sound. All creative sound blaster cards has the option to go to the volume settings and change the recorder to "what you hear". so anything that comes out of you speakers digitally can be recorded with any recording software, like windows sound recorder that has been in in windows since 95. It will be a wave file, so you just need some other program to convert it to mp3 again, and the drm is gone.
Oh and by the way, removing DRM from a song is illegal per the DMCA. If you want to break the law to circumvent DRM, why just not get the song from BitTorrent for free. You breaking the law either way.
Runn1ng, that is because iTunes allows this behavior. With DRM they can restrict how many times you can play a song, if you can burn it on CD, and you can only use it on their players (eg. iTunes, or iPod). If Apple goes bankrupt, you lose all your music. Later.
"wt*? if you want to use iTunes mp3s, burn it on CD (-RW) and rip it back. Thats all folks."
Except this burn/rip adds a major loss in quality, and is two steps more than it really has to be. Also you lose all your album art, song names, lyrics, and anything else you had as metadata in the file. And that's just the _technical_ issues with it, let alone legal and moral.
Wonderful! I really hope the general public starts speaking out against DRM... but they'll probably just keep buying $.99 songs because "they're such a good deal!"
Per the first 90 yrs, couldn't copy music stuck in vinyl. Still can't go from vinyl/tape to CD/PC w/o using analog.
While half-life drops (60 yrs vinyl, 30 yrs tape, 15 yrs CD, 7 yrs WMA, etc), tech hasn't changed much: you can still go from DRM content to PC or tape through analog line as well. Do people not remember the first decade of digital audio CDs were not "DDD" but usually "ADD" or "AAD"?
Nothing's changed, except people's desire to infinitely replicate the MASTER.
The video isn't talking about replication; it's talking about playability. You cannot play DRMed material in a device that doesn't support that specific DRM - and can't play it after you have changed players a certain number of times(5 pcs for itunes).
And it's not even like how a tape can't play in a CD player, it's like how it would be if a Sony tape wouldn't play in a Pioneer one, and wouldn't play if you changed 5 Sony tape players and would have to buy another tape. You must get paid by RIAA to say that.
Funny, that's exactly the case with high definition digital versatile disc players. Discs that work in one brand do not work in another. You, the consumer, need to make an informed choice.
Technology companies "have the right" to be incompatible (metric vs Imperial nuts and bolts, for example), and consumers have a right to not purchase incompatible technologies.
Well, as for that, sorry kids, but the cat's out of the bag. Even if one has to transfer from analog to digital once to get it into an open digital format, it's lossless from there down to the last 10,000th generation. A friend of mine downloads TV shows she misses. Except for the ones recorded with a digital HDTV tuner, they are all across the analog gap from the cablebox to a computer's video recording card. And they still look great.
"DRM means you cannot extract them in their native (digital) format. you can get the 'processed' output. but not the 'native' data..."
Who cares? Few people trade the native data anyhow. They ecode the source in lossy audio MP3 or lossy video MPG4. If they have to go one analog jump to get it in these unrestricted formats, if it's done well (and these people are smart and talented) it will not degrade what will then become the new, uninhibited master. Companies need to get a grip and adapt.
No, as stated in the comment that opened this part of the thread, Skeuomorph thinks the video's analogy is flawed.
Happen to agree business models need to adapt. Recent survey says two thirds of music label execs believe DRM hurts, not helps, digital download sales.
Btw: monopolies no, standards yes, and DRM should DIAF.
Which is the name of the song? I liked it.
obsidiansmoke 8 months ago
DRM makes me laugh. Its like the guy who was insulted was to late with the comeback cos the other guy already left the room! lol...
morrismagic08 9 months ago
Do what you want cos a pirate is free.
You are a pirate.
newblenderbeer 1 year ago
DRM is BS!Let's pirate everything!
jcj83429 2 years ago 5
@jcj83429 OR let's find a way to keep Hollywood from passing legislation that encourages selling DRM infected files. I'd like to pay for my music if at all possible.
siskavard 6 months ago
...I just bought a TV that won't play DRMed MP3s and/or WMVs...
Yet non-DRM MP3s work just fine...
But the best part is 1080p Blu ray rips (MKV types) play just fine...
How freaking awesome/retarded is that? Here we are 2 years after this video is made and we can actually SEE this BS. not just with music, but with movies!
TheParadox2 2 years ago
@TheParadox2 and games <,<
903harman 1 year ago
You forgot the 8 track... oh my GOD.. how could you skip it????
actorkent 2 years ago
buy???
wtf? lol
pezfugo3 2 years ago
YOu can BUY music?
Ominona001 3 years ago
lol i could careless if i get caught lol its only only $2000 lol....thats chump change lol...i youse lime wire lol...oooo yea im a rebel...meh i dont rly care lol...and ooo its got viruses....ummmmm so far i got non lol.........
ericardron 3 years ago
The way you said it sounded entirly gay but im on ur boat... They can track me down.
whatbrains 2 years ago
@ericardron lolwut? 2 grand to throw away by getting caught...if you had that money sitting around you don't need to pirate :P
CorruptLupine 1 year ago
niec! down with DRM!
kelemi821 3 years ago 3
VERY nice and smart spot! I like it. Just kick the DRM outta this world!
CZpersi 3 years ago
Awesome video.
JephirDromulus 3 years ago
just use a mp4 to mp3 converter.. simple as that.
gbmack2000 3 years ago
This is bull. I hate these record companies, I should be able to play the music I purchased wherever I want. I was going to buy an MP3 player until I figured out about this DRM crap.
HistoryMajor7 3 years ago
You can still buy an MP3 player from a company that doesn't support DRM. The main DRM device is the Ipod... Also there are sites where you can buy music that doesn't have DRM on it.
Another name for DRM is CRAP:
Content
Restrictions
Anullment
Protection
Death2Evil 3 years ago
LMAO CRAP! thanks, I'm just worried that if I buy a zune it won't play my music, not to mention purchasing music that won't play anywhere else. It reminds me how cell phone companies make all these different connections for accessories so you have to buy a whole new cell phone and the accessories for it when you switch phones and/or service.
HistoryMajor7 3 years ago
lol dont buy music........download it for free...like i do lol....why would i wana pay 50 cents per song lol...fuck that....id rather steal it...its not bad...who cares...u wont get caught lol...
ericardron 3 years ago
Actually, some people got caught for downloading less than 10 songs. They were fined 2000 dollars.
mostliberal 3 years ago
I notice myself buying less music and PC games because of DRM. I don't want to deal with the hassle and I don't want to be treated like a potential criminal. oh, well, I guess that frees up my money for other pursuits...
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alexf1996 4 years ago
The ironic thing about pirating DRM-encumbered music is that the *pirate* has more freedoms than a complying user. The pirate can copy it anywhere he likes, the complying user is bound by the DRM.
Does this make sense? No, you should NOT let yourself be treated like a criminal.
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SexyDina345 4 years ago
Stupid thing is, DRM does nothing to stop piracy. There is no such thing as unbreakable DRM. And it's break-once, play everywhere.
DRM is purely about vendor lock-in, and making people buy extra copies of things they already own. In short, it's pure greed. Don't believe anyone who says DRM stops piracy (or even that piracy "threatens music") -- find out the facts first.
jnigelj 4 years ago 36
Fairplay4WM ftw.
masonpw 4 years ago
Great Video! This really shows it well. I agree that music needs to be paid for like anything else, but encrypting it is not the way to go. It angers users and doesn't stop hardcore pirates.
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Pikalter00 4 years ago
no not quite, you have to pay for the servers, to hold the mp3's plus there's power and manpower, nothing's free, but it's extremely cheap to maintain, and cost very little on a large scale to distribute, nowhere near a dollar per transaction(probably closer to 5 cent if that)
CarlosElPeruacho 4 years ago
great vid!
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Ricksvette3333 4 years ago
Writing, producing, mixing and recording the sounds which are then compressed into mp3 form costs money. Sometimes a lot of money. Are you really so ignorant to think otherwise? Then again with a user name like boobgurl77....
intelevision87 4 years ago
well they have to find new ways to earn money, cause piracys unstoppable.
sokseb 4 years ago 2
sokseb, I agree, the music industry does have to rethink it's model. Music is becoming less of a product, and more of a service.
intelevision87 4 years ago 2
yup, maybe they can get some contracts from ISPs and have em check all MP3 traffic, then they pay the artists according to popularity (small sums which they collect through all broadband bills). Wont be totally accurate but hey :P
sokseb 4 years ago
and if ppl choose to encrypt their traffic, too bad
sokseb 4 years ago
DRM isn't surprising. Its just the first time technology which allows this much control has come along. If they could have done the same with past technologies, they would have done so.
britoca 4 years ago
they cost the electricity used in producing a copy of the original file.
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XxxweelassiexxX 4 years ago
Music always updates and makes it hard for those barely scraping by to be able to afford buying music. I can't even buy music on cassette tape anymore. They used to have albums on casette tape aty K-Mart for 5 dollars (I should've jumped on that when I had the chance)
JackRussellTerrier2 4 years ago
It's funny, CD's are cheaper to produce than Tapes, and MP3's are cheaper than CD's (they cost almost nothing on large scale) so why buy a song for a buck, the artist isn't getting a buck, they get such a small percentage of that, that it forces the artist to defend the DRM just to make money on THEIR music... The outcome... only the company wins...
CarlosElPeruacho 4 years ago
How else are they supposed to buy a solid gold Humvee? Or diamond studded swimming pools? These things don't grow on trees? lol. Weird AL FTW.
masonpw 4 years ago 6
Suitkin, no jutsu!
ttaatt22 5 years ago
WHATS DRM???
Skeletine 5 years ago
Too true. DRM is lame!
DJNathanV 5 years ago
Please do post the soundtrack online on your band's myspace or whatever! I like it :)
skyfaller 5 years ago
Nice video! And yes, DRM does suck!
JNOtaku 5 years ago
DRM sucks. People who say stuff like "As if I'd pay for music" suck just as much.
BrokenUnity 5 years ago 2
Isnt the Playstation 3 going to have a DRM drive : (. i really like the Playstation.
iceiceice777 5 years ago
Boycott ALL DRM-mandatory devices & media. No one is forcing you to buy it. Boycott it, listen to the TV/radio, and watch DRM blow itself up. Is a gun pointed to your head to buy DRM-mandatory music or devices? No i don't think so...
XSEMULATORdotNET 5 years ago 2
very nice video and a very true message! only a few of those numbers aren't correct, but that doesn't matter ;)
Xiaopang666 5 years ago
i have most formats, but u cant beat vinyl for texture, visuals, sound, and collectability. mp3s wont last long cheap memory will make them irrelevant. when it doesnt matter what size your file is you may as well make it a big 1! cd stylee. try sticking drm on vinyl! if you havent got record decks you should get yourselves 2nd hand ones, have fun and really appreciate music. sometimes that means paying for it too! loved the vid and your music, cheers!
playsomethingelse 5 years ago
DRM can suck my cock! Corporatatatatata bastards piss me off! eat shit!
iceiceice777 5 years ago
DRM = spyware, rootkits, and future viruses, advertising, cookies/trackers & other corporate bullocks.
Sorry, but if DRM is inside i'm not buying it. Not now. not ever!!
XSEMULATORdotNET 5 years ago
Yeah, fuck that BS.
DigiEvolve 5 years ago
Ha, there are always ways around it. Necessity is the mother of invention. If you need to keep stealing music, someone will help you out
Shinx23 5 years ago
so true, but what runn1ng said, what if apple or other company deside to take away the abilaty to burn that song to a disc?
maurice1979 5 years ago
Then they will lose a hell of a lot of customers. I know a lot of people who buy itunes music just so they can burn it to CD and listen to it on their car stereo and elsewhere.
buggyBY 5 years ago
Brilliant I say. Eff DRM
NinjaFishBand 5 years ago
Is it just me or is it just so annoying when people ask what`s the name of the music playing in the video,,,aaaaarrrgggg,,stop it...
rakklefrakkle 5 years ago
Wow. Why does it bother you when people ask questions like this? The sound is a part of the content. Regardless if it not the point of the post. The comments are for people to discuss and share information. If you don't know the name, just skip it and flame the guy who is really being an ass.
rgisassi 5 years ago
My friends and I have over 26,000 songs on our iTunes combined. Not once did we pay for a song. As if I'd pay for music.
Sorry DRM people, but for as long as theres a breath in my body, I will always get my music for free. Oh look, my CD that I just burned is finished. I must be off. Time to burn 6 more CDs before I have to work. Bye.
Mikalaio 5 years ago
26k? as if you'd ever listen to even half of those songs...that's what i call an addicted collector...
Xiaopang666 5 years ago
you are God. I worship you. can we trade some music? ;)
XSEMULATORdotNET 5 years ago
Awesome Vid, What you people aren't getting is that when you transcode lossy formats the quality takes a major hit. DRM is junk.
locoped 5 years ago
You can also play the song on your computer, then use sound recorder to record the sound. All creative sound blaster cards has the option to go to the volume settings and change the recorder to "what you hear". so anything that comes out of you speakers digitally can be recorded with any recording software, like windows sound recorder that has been in in windows since 95. It will be a wave file, so you just need some other program to convert it to mp3 again, and the drm is gone.
ViperCG 5 years ago
Which is against the law, ViperCG.
Masterhomer 5 years ago
nice video but didn't you completely skip 8-tracks?
undone001 5 years ago
Quote: "anyone know the name of the music in the vid?"
-anyone care?
lethalthiz 5 years ago
Quote: "-anyone care?"
The person you quoted does.
Duh.
regeya 5 years ago
well.. i'm hoping someone will care enuf to lemme know wat it is... the music is awesome...
BeyonDeath 5 years ago
he cares... don't be a dick
kakifry 5 years ago
anyone know the name of the music in the vid?
BeyonDeath 5 years ago
if you read the above comment it says its his own composition
YBisME 5 years ago
wt*? if you want to use iTunes mp3s, burn it on CD (-RW) and rip it back. Thats all folks.
runn1ng 5 years ago
this just becomes a hassle when you want to move your entire library(for some folks a couple thousand songs)
mrdougfunny 5 years ago
And you have your music in horribly diminished sound quality, woo!
akucola 5 years ago
Quality is lost. Bit extravagant too.
jeremynicolas 5 years ago
OK OK, there are more ways how to de-DRM iTunes Store songs, but "burn - rip" way is the easiest (it can be done only with iTunes!)
and btw, I have 50% of my library with FairPlay - and I really dont care.
When you dont want drm, try e-music. hawk.
runn1ng 5 years ago
Oh and by the way, removing DRM from a song is illegal per the DMCA. If you want to break the law to circumvent DRM, why just not get the song from BitTorrent for free. You breaking the law either way.
Masterhomer 5 years ago
Right so what's near-audiocd quality turns into near-K7 quality. Not that great deal, really.
felyduw 5 years ago
Runn1ng, that is because iTunes allows this behavior. With DRM they can restrict how many times you can play a song, if you can burn it on CD, and you can only use it on their players (eg. iTunes, or iPod). If Apple goes bankrupt, you lose all your music. Later.
Masterhomer 5 years ago
and lose signifigant sound quality...
the itunes AAC format isn't lossless.
jackson088 5 years ago
"wt*? if you want to use iTunes mp3s, burn it on CD (-RW) and rip it back. Thats all folks."
Except this burn/rip adds a major loss in quality, and is two steps more than it really has to be. Also you lose all your album art, song names, lyrics, and anything else you had as metadata in the file. And that's just the _technical_ issues with it, let alone legal and moral.
lefte3 5 years ago
If you accept the inherent loss in audio quality, that may be fine for you. But why should I have to accept that?
buggyBY 5 years ago
Very cool ad. Should be shown on tv.
pile0nades 5 years ago
here's a big FU to DRM!
sonkface 5 years ago
nice visual. gets the point across well.
glennchilada 5 years ago
Wonderful! I really hope the general public starts speaking out against DRM... but they'll probably just keep buying $.99 songs because "they're such a good deal!"
one321 5 years ago
Excellent.
thekingacross 5 years ago
Excellent x2!
danmanx2 5 years ago
Cute
GFree678 5 years ago
anybody know what song this is? Thanks
hammydude12345 5 years ago
Great!
tehCoosh 5 years ago
i dont care. i want my property back.
gimpieman 5 years ago
Per the first 90 yrs, couldn't copy music stuck in vinyl. Still can't go from vinyl/tape to CD/PC w/o using analog.
While half-life drops (60 yrs vinyl, 30 yrs tape, 15 yrs CD, 7 yrs WMA, etc), tech hasn't changed much: you can still go from DRM content to PC or tape through analog line as well. Do people not remember the first decade of digital audio CDs were not "DDD" but usually "ADD" or "AAD"?
Nothing's changed, except people's desire to infinitely replicate the MASTER.
Skeuomorph 5 years ago
i dont care. i want my property back.
gimpieman 5 years ago
The video isn't talking about replication; it's talking about playability. You cannot play DRMed material in a device that doesn't support that specific DRM - and can't play it after you have changed players a certain number of times(5 pcs for itunes).
ividlivid 5 years ago
Why didn't the vinyl "get stuck" in the record player and the music stop then? What's the "playability" of the vinyl in the tape deck?
Skeuomorph 5 years ago
And it's not even like how a tape can't play in a CD player, it's like how it would be if a Sony tape wouldn't play in a Pioneer one, and wouldn't play if you changed 5 Sony tape players and would have to buy another tape. You must get paid by RIAA to say that.
ividlivid 5 years ago
Funny, that's exactly the case with high definition digital versatile disc players. Discs that work in one brand do not work in another. You, the consumer, need to make an informed choice.
Technology companies "have the right" to be incompatible (metric vs Imperial nuts and bolts, for example), and consumers have a right to not purchase incompatible technologies.
Skeuomorph 5 years ago
"Nothing's changed, except people's desire to infinitely replicate the MASTER."
Wrong. Nobody's desire to do anything changes because of what media it comes on.
ayeroxor 5 years ago
You're absolutely right. I should have used the word "expectation" instead of "desire".
Skeuomorph 5 years ago
Well, as for that, sorry kids, but the cat's out of the bag. Even if one has to transfer from analog to digital once to get it into an open digital format, it's lossless from there down to the last 10,000th generation. A friend of mine downloads TV shows she misses. Except for the ones recorded with a digital HDTV tuner, they are all across the analog gap from the cablebox to a computer's video recording card. And they still look great.
Time for companies to get a grip and adapt.
ayeroxor 5 years ago
You can't go from vinyl/tape without using analog... BECAUSE THEY'RE ANALOG! As 'digital' as they seem, they're still analog formats...
You can output them in their native format and rerecord them in their native format...
With (non copy protected) CD's, you can similarly do the same thing... extract them in their native (digital) format...
DRM means you cannot extract them in their native (digital) format... you can get the 'processed' output... but not the 'native' data...
lordofcat 5 years ago
Um, sound's "native" format is analog.
Skeuomorph 5 years ago
"Um, sound's "native" format is analog."
Clearly, you don't understand the discussion. Let the adults speak, honey.
ayeroxor 5 years ago
"DRM means you cannot extract them in their native (digital) format. you can get the 'processed' output. but not the 'native' data..."
Who cares? Few people trade the native data anyhow. They ecode the source in lossy audio MP3 or lossy video MPG4. If they have to go one analog jump to get it in these unrestricted formats, if it's done well (and these people are smart and talented) it will not degrade what will then become the new, uninhibited master. Companies need to get a grip and adapt.
ayeroxor 5 years ago
I guess Skeuomorph thinks monopolies are ok.
DigiEvolve 5 years ago
No, as stated in the comment that opened this part of the thread, Skeuomorph thinks the video's analogy is flawed.
Happen to agree business models need to adapt. Recent survey says two thirds of music label execs believe DRM hurts, not helps, digital download sales.
Btw: monopolies no, standards yes, and DRM should DIAF.
Skeuomorph 5 years ago
this is great happy anti drm !
digitallysick 5 years ago
I'm actually quite sure, some of those years are about 10 to 20 years off ...
ffmusicdj 5 years ago
They seem spot-on to me, what are you basing that on?
Heinekren 5 years ago
Excellent
sinoth 5 years ago
Excellent! Very clear message, you cannot fail to miss it.
jgjones 5 years ago
OK: "you cannot fail to miss it".
That would be: You cannot manage to miss it, or, you cannot failt to get it. Double negative would be what RIAA wants. Thanks.
ividlivid 5 years ago
'cannot fail to miss it'...WHAT?
gorillagrue 5 years ago
very good
silue 5 years ago
of all of the ones Ive seen on DRM, this one gets the message across the best.
incused 5 years ago
This is my favorite of the anti-DRM videos.
djskyler941 5 years ago