Who said having sex with boys and donkey's is ok? I've seen it in their mother land....it's sick. I remember their coin phase, boys are for fun and women are for making babies.Yep you heard it here. We are against the ARAB everything, side note. I'm an Islamophob and proud of it!
Uzbek man guilty of plotting to kill President Obama (YahooNews/Reuters Feb 11, 2012):
"A man from Uzbekistan living illegally in the United States pleaded guilty on Friday to terrorism and weapons charges involving a plot to kill President Barack Obama. According to court evidence ... he was acting on behalf of an Islamist militant group in his homeland and was plotting to shoot Obama while the president campaigned for re-election this year."
@Wrath0fKhan yeah yeah yeah sure, Islam is cultural imperialism, not the Western culture. That is probably the reason we see most people in the world dressed in an Islamic and not Western fashion, buildings predominantly being build in Middle Eastern and not Western styles, most TV channels in the world showing Muslim prayer lessons instead of Disney cartoons. And have you seen Anne Coulter's new burqa? Lol dude, keep living in your world of hatred.
@Uzbekimage "Islam is cultural imperialism" Sure. "not the Western culture" Ive never said that. However, in general Western culture leads to prosperity. Islam leads to oil! LOL "TV showing" No one is forcing you to watch these channels or is there. "ACoulters new burqa" If she keeps the burqa practice entirely private and doesnt scare little kids, its not my biz. "world of hatred" I dont arrest comedians for making fun of me, "god", atheism, etc. Pakistan, Egypt and co do.
@Wrath0fKhan So do many Latin American dictatorships that are a product of Western Culture. Oppression can come from any form of religion or political ideology. And the one that is pushing their political ideology and way of life down everyone's throat is the West.
@Wrath0fKhan So, when the West produces dictatorships and death squads somewhere in Nicaragua it is a product of certain atavisms, and not product of the West. But when Islamic world produces a dictatorship and death squads somewhere in Libya it is the fault of Islam? Bigotry anyone?
@Wrath0fKhan West produces less dictatorships? Actually most of Latin America was ruled by dictators during the entire 20th century. Soviet Union took dictatorship to a whole new level. North Korean regime, Chinese Communist regime, Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia, communist dictatorships in Africa like one in Angola, and Ethiopia are all products of Western ideas. All sprung up from the powerful pen of Karl Marx, who studied under Hegel. Western secularism at it's height.
@Uzbekimage "West produces less dictatorships" Sure. "Latin America" Erm... Check out HDI and IHDI statistics. "Soviet" Is not the West. Neither is NK, China, Cambodia, etc. "Western ideas" Actually they are the product of Middle Eastern ideas. "Karl Marx" Bringing workers paradise down to Earth. What does it remind me about? "Western secularism" What? You dont seem to know what secularism is about then.
Killing homosexuals, cutting off limbs of thieves, physically punishing adulterers and those who dare to "challenge" rasool allah. Holy bigotry, indeed.
@Wrath0fKhan I'd rather have that than titty bars, my daughter being fucked by some looser in on the back seat of a car, my children being taught at school that being a homosexual is ok.
Exactly... Thats why you have nothing lost "here."
"my daughter being fucked by some looser"
Riiiight... Id better not had my daughter being raped and beaten on daily basis by an abusive husband without having having the possibility for some safe haven (and enforceable rights).
"being taught ... homosexual is ok"
Of course being homosexual is OK. Its "natural" (e.g. theres a genetic and or epigenetic factor) and when its consensual no one gets hurt.
@Wrath0fKhan Being a homosexual is NOT OK. It is not natural. It is an anomaly, a disgusting abomination. You want perversions taught to your children? Go ahead. We can see what it created in the West. A complete destruction of family institution.
@Uzbekimage "Being homo is not OK" Yes it is. "It is not natural" Yes it is. "anomaly" Yes, a natural anomaly. Possibly even giving breeding groups of primates a tiny, yet important advantage. "perversions" F*cking 9 year old girls is a perversion, indeed. "family" Your family has failed. You guys are incestoids (this is measurable) and violence keep perpetrating on massive (medieval) scales. Your families are something like small fascist dictatorships.
@Wrath0fKhan Where I come from there is respect for the elderly, no cursing in families, no half naked women walking the streets, wives and daughters are humble and modest, and old people are not dumped in "homes" by their own children to die on a piss soaked bed surrounded by strangers. It is in the West that I first saw a child telling his mother to fuck herself. It is in the west that I saw a wife call her husband a bitch. Our family values are superior to Western ones.
Silence on spousal sexual assault jarring: Doctors (The Express Tribune, March 9, 2011):
"Gynecologists at several city hospitals have expressed their concerns over the growing number of married female patients who are forced into intercourse. “The number of marital rape cases keeps going up but no one even acknowledges that the problem exists."
@Wrath0fKhan A rape would be if a woman resists her husband and he still takes her against her will. The video you provided only speaks of a Hadith that says that a woman should satisfy her husband, and if she does not angels will be upset with her. It does not say it is ok for husband to have sex with her, while she is resisting. Nice try though.
Silence on spousal sexual assault jarring: Doctors (The Express Tribune, March 9, 2011):
"Gynecologists at several city hospitals have expressed their concerns over the growing number of married female patients who are forced into intercourse. “The number of marital rape cases keeps going up but no one even acknowledges that the problem exists."
@Wrath0fKhan As far as that Saudi cleric goes. I say Saudi clerics can go to hell. They are like the pharisees of the New Testament. They are so focused on following their interpretation of the law to a letter, that they forget that love and compassion is the reason behind true Islam. It is these backward clerics that we can blame for the backwardness of Islamic societies.
"Pakistan: Growing Concerns About Extremism, Continuing Discontent with U.S."
bit(.)ly/KOPEQ
"The new poll finds broad support for harsh punishments: 78% favor death for those who leave Islam; 80% favor whippings and cutting off hands for crimes like theft and robbery; and 83% favor stoning adulterers."
Men should be allowed sex slaves and female prisoners could do the job - and all this from a WOMAN politician from Kuwait (DailyMail, June 7, 2011):
"A Kuwaiti woman who once ran for parliament has called for sex slavery to be legalised - and suggested that non-Muslim prisoners from war-torn countries would make suitable concubines."
First she must prove that he is abusive and that this abuse is beyond the tolerated level of abuse prescribed by "Allah." Then she practically becomes undesired and untouchable.
"in many aspects exceeding those of a Western woman"
@Wrath0fKhan A divorced Muslim woman is not untouchable. Divorce is ok in Islam, there is no stigma attached to it. A Muslim husband has to provide for his woman. A woman can work and have a business, and the money she makes are hers to keep, a husband can't take it. So he has to feed and cloth her, and she can do what she wants with her money.
Child bride horrors last a lifetime (CNN Sept 30, 2010):
"Reem al Numeri is 14-years-old and recently divorced. She was 11 when she says her father forced her to marry a cousin more than twice her age. Reem says she has been stigmatized by her divorce and now lives the life of an outcast. Without a husband or father to support her, she cannot attend school."
@Wrath0fKhan You are confusing Shariat and Adat. Many Muslim societies live by Adat, their local old customs, many of them pre-Islamic. Woman's life under Sharia is good. Her life under Adat can be hell. That is why I mention a need for a purely Islamic society, without backward tribal customs, a society that elects it's leaders, a society that protects private property and enforces honest business practices, a society that protects the rights of both men and women.
Child bride horrors last a lifetime (CNN Sept 30, 2010):
"More than 100 leading religious clerics called the attempt to restrict the age of marriage "un-Islamic"."
Lebanon Sunni clergy reject domestic abuse law (Google News, June 25, 2011):
"This will have a negative impact on Muslim children... who will see their mother threatening their father with prison, in defiance of patriarchal authority"
@Wrath0fKhan I know one thing for sure. I saw how children can treat their parents in the West. I saw how young men and women interact with each other and the elders. And I know that I DO NOT WANT THAT in my country.
@Wrath0fKhan You are saying that Muslim world is backward because religion and politics are indistinguishable. Show me a single truly Islamic state today. Before you can blame the problems of the Middle East, dictatorships, political and economic backwardness on Islam, prove that Middle East is run based on true Islamic principles. Show me a truly Islamic country.
"backward because of religion and politics are indistinguishable"
Obviously there is a measurable substantial overlap there. This is actually nothing new, "we" experienced the same a couple centuries ago.
"truly Islamic state"
Ah... The "perfect recipe" fallacy turns up again. Well, the truly Islamic state (allegedly) existed at the time of the prophet. Read the Quran, hadith, sirat, tafsir and so on. Full of slavery, murder, rape, loot, self-induced martyrdom...
@Wrath0fKhan Qur'an is full of slavery, murder, rape, loot? So is the Bible. The Islamic state of the prophet Muhammad (SAWS) was no more violent than any other state of that time period.
Sure... Yet its not considered the best example to be followed. Uswa Hasana is by definition so to say.
"no more violent than any other state of that time period"
This may or may not be a true statement. Yet even that doesnt matter, since "we" dont consider these examples worthy of being emulated. "You" do. Again, a sophomoric fail on your part.
Islamophobia is a stupid term. Islam is scary, look at beheading. Muslim imperialists want to dominate the world. I do not have a big problem with Muslims being Muslims in their own nations. Its not about Muslims wearing their silly hates, its about the fact they behead people. Muslims need to learn to chillout like Christian(for the most part) have. However it is stupid to be blinded by "Islamophobia", Islamism may be bad but Zionism is worse.
Islamophobeophobia: "the irrational fear or hatred of people who object to being targeted, persecuted and killed on the grounds that they refuse to submit to the Muslim God Allah".
Every one of the three big monotheist religions claims to be the only one, the better one, the right one, which is why all three of them are also victim of "cultural imperialism". Islamophobes are just as wrong as "Christophobes" (how do you call them?). You either critisize religion in general or you worship your God and don't care if others worship their's. If you want to critisize specific aspects of one religion, you don't generalize and you better start with your own.
@Wrath0fKhan Generalization is never objective; it can therefore not be seen as valid evidence, cause it isnt usable. Fail. But as I said.. ur on the right track.
You didnt bring anything forward that would elucidate your position. Neither did you bring anything forward that would substantially challenge the (references to) facts which I provided.
"not my problem"
To me it looks like its exactly that. Your problem only.
"nice day"
Indeed... Someones (e.g. your) ignorance is not going to ruin my day. So... Less ignorance on your part and have a nice day, too.
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@Wrath0fKhan Ur completely out of arguments. Go visit a shrink to help u with ur psychological youth-trauma due to religious indoctrination and ID crisis. Have a nice day!
Islam is true becaue it is true - DOGMA! unreason! Western Enlightement values are true because they produce results SCIENCE, EDUCATION, TOLERANCE, DOUBT, DECREASING VIOLENCE in most secularised western countries. WAKE UP please WAKE UP. Learn History, learn the value of doubt. Peace.
"Pakistan: Growing Concerns About Extremism, Continuing Discontent with U.S."
bit(.)ly/KOPEQ
"The new poll finds broad support for harsh punishments: 78% favor death for those who leave Islam; 80% favor whippings and cutting off hands for crimes like theft and robbery; and 83% favor stoning adulterers."
One or the other, right, Sami? Its "your way" (i.e. the "medieval one") or "our way" (i.e. the "enlightened one") and there is no middle ground...
""This will have a negative impact on Muslim children... who will see their mother threatening their father with prison, in defiance of patriarchal authority, which will in turn undermine the moral authority" of fathers, it said."
Reviving the medievals? Come on Sami... Time to get clean.
Islamaphobes want to see their culture superscede the culture of others? Funny, I always hear Muslims talking about how every nation should follow Sharia law. So would the wars waged by Islam against Christian nations for 600 years classify as "Imperialism" It fits your definition. Bottom line, your understanding of history is severely limited, highly selective, intellectually dishonest, and effectively juvenile. You embarras yourself, and your "culture" with every video you create.
Cultural Imperialists? How very ironic to hear a subscriber to 7th Century Arabian Cultural Imperialism calling that to another group of people (who his people were attacking, enslaving and annexing several hundred years before any response).
Of course we want our culture above others in our own lands...Muslims do the same in their lands - and sometimes violently enforce that.
ISLAMOPHOBIA? BUT ISLAM BY ITS OWN NATURE SCARES PEOPLE. ISLAM IS A POLITCAL SUPREMACIST RELIGION WHOSE AIM IS TO CONQUER THE WORLD. THE QURAN TELLS MUSLIMS TO FIGHT UNTIL THE WHOLE WORLD BECOMES MUSLIM, 9:29-33, THE SHARIA IS A FASCIST LAW. IT DOES NOT CONDEM MEN WHO BEAT THEIR WIVES, DISCRIMINATES AGAINST NON MUSLIMS, KILLS APOSTATES, STONES ADULTERERS, CUTS THE HAND OF THIEVES, EVEN IF IT IS AN ERROR OF YOUTH, HUMILIATES WOMEN: THEY INHERIT HALF, THEIR TESTIMONY IS WORTH HALF, CAN BE BEATEN
Don't get me wrong, even though I am a little concerned about large Islamist elements among the protesters, I'm not losing sleep over a huge Islamist takeover of the Arab governments. However, that doesn't change the fact that your logic here is absolute shite. By your logic, 99% of people who've ever existed are cultural imperialists just for criticizing stuff that happens in foreign countries.
Furthermore, I am quite critical of my own culture as well as others, so I'm not a hypocrite.
Also, you're saying that just because people say "Hey, maybe you shouldn't impose your religious beliefs upon others who don't want it; just a thought" are bigoted Islamophobes and cultural imperialists? Well, I assume you condemn the horrendous massacres against Muslims in Serbia and Bulgaria during the late 19th and early 20th centuries. But by your logic, these actions were perfectly acceptable; after all, they were ordained by the majority. See where this logic falls on its ass now?
Sami, I thought you were going to make a genuine point here, but you really disappointed me the moment you said that the phrases 'moderate Muslim' and 'extremist Muslim' are labels of cultural imperialism. Even moderate Muslims use these phrases to describe themselves and the nutters of their faith. What you're saying might be true for those who genuinely hold bigoted views towards Muslims, but for the rest of us, we use the exact same terminology to describe people of other religions.
I cannot find exactly what is wrong with a person in their indigenous homeland wanting to hold on and protect their culture. Muslims fundamentalists are often times keen of Islamic superiority and world domination. I am not saying that many other faiths have followers who wish for the same, but the way Muslims go about establishing themselves throughout Europe creates clash and resentment from the Europeans. Muslims want to imperialise the west before any other region. I'm not down down this.
Islamophobia has become a useless term. Labeling all Muslims as terrorists or violent is wrong, but it's also wrong to label criticising religious doctrine as Islamophobia. It's perfectly okay to criticise a doctrine, but it's not okay to hate or discriminate the people, Muslims. Luckily most Muslims are sane enough not to follow all the teachings in their holy books.
If Americans had any basic intelligence they would realize that the ethnic supremacists in Tel Aviv and their sold out Congress/Senate/President who just signed away their constitution are clearly the biggest threat they face, and Muslims are the scape-goat DISTRACTION used to scare the average uneducated dim-wit into letting their basic rights be taken.
Islamophobia (which in many cases is nothing but outright anti-arab Zionist-fuelled racism) helps to sell the illegal wars as well
I'm an Islamophobe. I have no problem with the Arab Spring. I think it's funny. A bunch of Muslims running around in circles, yelling, and killing each other? That's what they do. They're Muslims. I just don't want that going on here.
I know. Oil. If they don't want to sell us their oil, fine. I can ride a bike. They can go back to eating sand. They are so productive otherwise, you know.
What's the best way out of a depression? A war. Let's take that oil for real. Fucking Muslims.
“Allah and His angels shower blessings on the Prophet. So believers, send your blessings on him, and salute him with all respect—a worthy salutation. Those who annoy Allah and His Messenger and speak evil things of them—Allah has cursed them and prepared a humiliating torment.” Sura 33:56.
“Those who speak negatively of Allah and His Apostle shall be cursed.” Sura 33:57.
Yes. The tolerance of Muslims is legendary. Look how well Christians are treated in Muslim countries!
You really are the ugliest person I've ever seen, both inside and out. For your information, I'm an atheist, not a christian. Your abject disconnect from logic is terrifying to me.
@urheadonastick I think you two make a great combined argument as to why both your holy books are disgusting and sick. Enough said, I guess. Why bother making atheist arguments when religious people do all the work for us by comparing the hideousness of their holy books? Keep up the good work, boys!
As good as some of your points might be about the demonizing of Islam due to other agendas, all you would have to do to avoid being called a moderate or extremist anything would be to give up on religion in general. This would also be an intellectually honest position, seeing as no deity has any evidence in support of its existence, whether islamic, christian, or otherwise.
Islamophobia is a tactic to demonoize arabs... To demonoize a race would be obviously racist so the next best thing would be to demonoize their ideology... Same thing like instead of demonoizing Chinese, they demonoize "communism" which is linked to the Chinese... So by demonoizing Islam and by extension the arabs, it makes mass murder, stealing their lands and obvious war crimes justifiable....
As an American, I simply don't care what law the Arab spring embraces. Sharia is fine with me. However, I don't want Sharia here in this country. I simply wouldn't like to live under it. . .ever. I don't like it. I think of it as a 7th century totalitarian tyranny. On the other hand, our NWO empire should dissolve & we should get the hell out of Moslem lands & mind our own business. I don't think that I'm Islamophobic but I could be wrong. You're a Moslem, what do you think?
Muslims are animals and need a brutal dictator to keep them in check, lest Sharia law take effect and curb basic human freedoms. You have to remember that many arab nations also have non-muslims living there. I absolutely do care what law the Arab spring embraces. This push for democracy is a dangerous gamble. Would you really advocate muslim majority leadership?
@batmanpronz I'll put it this way: I wouldn't spend 1 more tax dollar in keeping muslim majority leadrships from emerging in muslim countries while, at the same time, disdaining & rejecting any form of Sharia law from emerging as positive law in America. In this country, we "crown our good with brotherhood," so, all of us "animals" deserve respect for our human & civil rights, including muslims. You might feel better about things if you vote for Ron Paul.
@BrotherWoody1 Muslims were attacking/invading non-muslim nations LONG before anyone had foreign military in Muslim lands. We could pull out tomorrow and inside of 2 days they'd be attacking us again. They've done this historically. It's just in their blood. It's not about our presence there,that's just an excuse they use. It's about our not being Muslim. Period. Evidence of that is 1500 years of unprovoked violence perpetrated by the followers of the "religion of peace" against non-muslims
@MasterJediTimm Aggression, war & conquest is no more in "their blood" than it is in anyone else's. Think of Alexander, Rome, Sun-Tsu, or in the 12th century, Genghis Khan. You have some good points, however, your anthropology is historically myopic. A "religious" banner has often been the rasion d'etre for rape, pillage & plunder. To paraphrase the Bard, "the fault isn't in our stars (religion) but in ourselves." Throughout history war has been seen by humans as fun.
@BrotherWoody1 Genghis Khan etc waged war as a matter of conquest for power. So it's a behavior choice.Not a disposition. For Islam it's inherent disposition. Evidence of that is Islam is the only entity that STILL wages war against civilization.Where are the mongols, Romans, etc today?? I can wage war for my religion if I choose to behave that way. But that's MY behavior choice. It doesn't mean my religion mandates it, and so my religious affiliation is immaterial.For Islam, it's not immaterial
"War is politics by other means" & politics is ONLY about power. As for the religious dimension of war, ever hear of the motto "God, Honor & Country?" Or "Onward Christian Soldiers?" Even Genghis justified his slaughters by his epiphany & belief that God destined him to rule the world. All "true" religions foster "true" believers who are willing to kill & be killed for the sake of their "truth." Islam isn't alone. Theocracies are always totalitarian as was once Christendom.
@BrotherWoody1 You haven't addressed anything I said, it's like you're just spewing random ideas about religion, all of them based on a vested hostility toward religion, and not a lot of thought about religion. Equating Islam with any other religion in the world is like equating cars with motorcycles because they both have wheels. But a car is not the same as a motorcycle, and not all cars are created equally. Which makes your thinking on religion painfully limited. And limitING
@MasterJediTimm You seem no different from any other fundamentalist. You're convinced of your own perspective & committed to it. Perhaps your own mental capacities are your religion, I wouldn't know. Your particular religious brand is irrelevant to the crisis. I don't hate Islam or any other religion. I don't hate Moslems. If you do, enlist in an army & go kill some with self-righteous impunity. Americans aren't interested in doing that anymore---a reason to vote for Ron Paul.
@BrotherWoody1 You obviously don't know what "fundamentalist" means, or its easier for you to label me than it is to refute my opinions. I'm approaching you with a philosophy based on historical, irrefutable facts. Perspective has nothing to do with it. So using your feelings about religion to discount my thoughts is ridiculous. Don't worry about questioning MY mental capacities, my friend. Use that time and effort to question your own intellectual honesty, which has made a poor showing here.
@BrotherWoody1 Many religions have used their beliefs to justify political acts (war included) in the past (bar Jainism I think!). However the issue is really whether or not a religion actually condones war or not. In the case of Islam it clearly does. Christianity generally doesn't - Jesus preached pacifism, Mohammad led men to war. What makes Mohammad more moral than Jesus? I am an atheist by the way...and Christianity isn't in the 1600s anymore is it?
Yes, Christendom is dead but there's a penumbra of Christian thought that still permeates the West & Russian international relations including the "just war" criteria. Since 1986, the Assisi Conference has yearly brought together leaders of the world's religions for the purpose of fostering peace among themselves. Islam has been an active & continuous participant. It's counterproductive to dwell on foundational documents to the detriment of theological progress & development.
@BrotherWoody1 Yes, the representative muslims present at Assisi frequently quote Hasan AlBana who is the founder of the Muslim brotherhood...you know...the ones who make no bones about wanting to wipe israel off the map, and have admitted an intent to destroy western culture. These are the people representing Islam at these conferences. I honestly do respect your thinking, but you obviously give Islam a pass it doesn't deserve because your research is selective
@MasterJediTimm To reset: I'm fairly familiar with the work of Robert Spencer as well as the Islamist propaganda machine. Whether we continue our hot war against them is open to question & a diversity of answers. My view is that we can't continue because we can't afford to continue. We now borrow the money from other countries to pay for these wars and then print more money merely to service the loans, let alone, touching the principal. We need to make friends with the Moslems.
@BrotherWoody1 Robert Spencer is small potatoes. I hope your study doesn't end with Spencer. I was studying HIS sources when I was 14. Discovered AlBana's writings when I was 15. Was cross referencing Islam-apologists like Thomas Arnold at 16. Getting down to the facts of history and precedent and present example, I conclude there is no making friends with the Islamic machine, short of living under subjugation or all out conversion to Islam.
@BrotherWoody1 I'm the first to sacrifice for the sake of getting along. But at the same time i recognize when a threat is so relentless that the only compromise is complete surrender...and I'm not becoming Muslim, and I won't live under Sharia. There is no making friends with Islam. There isn't a single cultural example IN HISTORY to suggest the contrary. Not one! Not even in Turkey, which is the most secular of muslim nations yet still enforces laws that discriminate against non-muslims.
We don't need to make friends with Islam but with Moslems. Our elites need to meet them in the public arena. We need to judge for ourselves as to the actual state of affairs. The public needs a voice in foreign affairs different from the shill spin of their politicians. As two implacable enemies wage war on each other, we must discover ways to make each of them more inclined toward peace. Making friends with Moslems seem a better way to proceed than wars that break the bank.
@BrotherWoody1 It's troubling that your philosophy time and again goes back to the cost of the issue, rather than the heart of the issue. Having said that, I think your'e right on most of this, but in order for Muslims to support peace they have to become less Muslim, because the war the "radicals" are fighting is prescribed by the Quran, not merely by their personal opinions. See my next comment for more...
@MasterJediTimm Yes, because war always costs & before you enter one or extend one, you'd better be able to pay for it. Perhaps they do have to become less Muslim & more American. If we can't turn them, then they won't be turned. But it's up to us to find Muslims that love America more than they love Islam. Because most folks practice their religion in the breech, this shouldn't be impossible to do. What other choice is there. We won't be able to pay for our bullets if wars go on
@BrotherWoody1 I don't know that they have to become more American necessarily, they just have to recognize that a philosophy of conflict has no place in any civilized modern society--American or otherwise. And maybe in order to do that they have to understand/learn/recognize that their ideology is a product of a maniac, not a profit of God.
@BrotherWoody1 as I was about to say...So long as the Quran orders Muslims to wage war against us, and orders non-combatant muslims to at least support the Jihad (with money, for example) there will always be some sect of Islam blowing up our buildings and murdering people. Islam IS the problem, despite the good intentions of a small minority of genuinely peaceful, devout muslims. To make peace, Muslims have to abandon the Hadith, and ignore half of what Muhammed teaches in the Quran.
@BrotherWoody1 I think you're 90% right, I'm a real libertarian that way. However the situation isn't simple enough to say "Get out of muslim lands". The last time we ignored the threat of crazy-Islam they practically overran Europe. They still control formerly-Christian lands they overran a thousand years ago. Look at those countries now; was it a good thing that they fell to Muslim rule? Sharia is an evil invention of the mind of a lunatic and pervert. No human being should live under Sharia!
@MasterJediTimm I agree with you but we live in a different empire & this clash of civilizations must end before annihilate ourselves. This hot war with Islam has become a war of attrition. To cool it down, we need to get out of their lands & divest our interests in military conquest & economic totalitarianism. With the Police/Militarized State that we've now become, it'll be difficult to change our course. Perhaps the last time for a long time is Ron Paul to start the change.
@BrotherWoody1 By the way I'm a Ron Paul supporter, too. But this war against "radical" islam is not about the usual "we shouldn't be in any country other than our own" argument. These people are crazy. They've always been crazy, and their so-called "religion" is founded on principals of violence and subjugation against ANYONE who isn't muslim. This fight is bigger than politics, brother. Far bigger!
@MasterJediTimm They're no more "crazy" than any other group that fights for their religion. Jews, Christians & Moslems have & still are prepared to kill to protect & advance their own "true" religion. Religions are by their exclusivity, totalitarian in nature. A religious person has an ultimate commitment. Political ideologies are now subsumed under religion. Naziism, Communism, tribalism, nationalism, racism, sexism, are ideas that require an individual's ultimate commitment.
@BrotherWoody1 If you equate the Islamic war machine to that of any other religion I'm afraid you don't know Islam. Islam wages war against non-muslims by MANDATE; it is core to Islamic jurisprudence. Insofar as it is a mandated posture, it makes Islam an ideology, not a religion. Other religions issue guideliens for living (and none of them prescribe a posture of war). Ideologies presume to mandate and force/enforce a lifestyle. ONLY Islam does this. So you are right to equate it with Naziism.
@BrotherWoody1 Incidentally if they're no more crazy than any other group that fights for their religion, show me a religion where its followers are sawing people's heads off on camera. Show me a religion where raping your wife is permitted, and even supported. Show me a religion where institutionalized discrimination is its code of law? Or where executing gays is permitted. I can go on and on. The only ideology with which Islam shares similarities is Naziism. They're practically twins.
@urheadonastick Am I upset? You should take some psychology courses, teenage masturbator. So what about obeying Jesus and killing your disobedient children?
@urheadonastick this is coming from a person who believes in the Bible, where we find entire cities being slaughtered by the sword, on the orders of your God, talk about mass murder, oh but it was ok when your god ordered mass murder?
God destroys entire cities in the Qur'an as well: Thamud, 'Ad, Midian, the people of Noah, the people of Lot, the Forest-Dwellers, Rass, Tubba', etc. Also, Moses tells the Children of Israel to start slashing and killing one another for worshipping the calf in his absence with no condemnation or interference from God.
All I'm saying here is: be consistent and don't be a hypocrite.
@SamiZaatari And is there any evidence the massacres happened as described in the Old Testament outside the bible - no. Is there any evidence of a Muslim Empire carved by the sword which annexed a Third of the Christian world (and still holds it), smashed Persia's beautiful pagan culture, scourged Hindu India and went as far as harassing Tang Dynasty China - all centuries before any Crusade or Western colonialism...yes, plenty. Pot calling the kettle black methinks!
@Hereticalable You're arguing with a guy who looks like Groucho Marx and debates with the reasoning and understanding of a child. He has no knowledge of his own culture's history, let alone global history.
@MasterJediTimm He never actually replies either...only to people who make silly cases. Anyone with serious comments are ignored because it's too easy to prove him wrong.
@Hereticalable Yeah, his arguments are painfully easy to defeat; it makes me wonder if he's actually sane. And it drives me crazy that he doesn't respond good counter-arguments. I've noticed that about him in the past. It seems the real benefit to posting comments is to school the audience, not the producer. I suppose that's not such a bad deal.
@urheadonastick - Last comment I promise lol - That incident is BS on two main bases. One is that it contradicts the doctrine of divine protection from making mistakes. Two is that the descriptions of the chain of transmission extant since that period are not complete and sound (sahih). Ibn Kathir points out in his commentary that the various isnads available to him by which the story was transmitted were almost all mursal, or WITHOUT a companion of Muhammad (pbuh) in their chain. - Take care
@urheadonastick - They were executed because they were tried by their own (Jewish) law. They committed treason against the muslims. They promised peace and unity and also they promised to stand together against outside forces. They instead tried to help an outside force kill the mulsims. The jews were put on trial but the judge was neither jewish or muslim. The judged asked the jews...for your crime what is the jewish punishment and they stated that it was death...Death it is!!!
NATO, CIA, Mossad, Blackwater, BIS & School of Americas.
World Bank (WB, IMF & WTO created to make sure developed countries can always keep 3rd world countries poor & enslaved & can always steal everything they want from 3rd world countries, keep them oppressed & fully controlled & starving/dying in debt)
IMF (International Monetary Fund)
WTO (World Trade Organization)
War Industry, Oil Industry, Banks, Financial Casinos & Federal Reserve
@2411Mach sure, you can believe in conspiracy theories . afterall, you believe in shariah. it takes a small mind to believe in something with not enough evidence to back it up. you DO believe in a schizophrenic, power-hungry man who said we heard the word of god, hahaha!!!
@skarfaced - Ppl dying due to alcohol is no conspiracy...the only consipiracy is why are the inner cities full of liquor stores, gun stores, gangs, prostitutes and drugs? Y are politicians so damn rich? Why are we so damn poor? Why do we occupy so much land abroad? Why does Israel own most media outlets? Why is evolution a theory? Why are all the Bible NT authors anonymous? Why do christians apostacize from catholism, when they own the Vatican lol? Maybe we don't use the same scope...Peace
Umm...so basically you're saying that "Islamophobes" oppose those whose values conflict with their own, and support those who have the same values? So just like every other rational person in the world then. That's why I don't like murderers and rapists; sorry to be such an "imperialist" about it. Sharia is primitive and oppressive: of course I am against those who would impose it.
@novasigma and these people defend it by saying that shariah isn't "implemented" properly. if no country implements it properly, then clearly it's flawed. and stupid.
@novasigma - Oppose wateva you want, you're entitled to that right...You ain't gone experience sharia, but maybe your great grand kids will :) don't panic, without muslims the politicians win...And say: “The Truth has arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish.” We send down (stage by stage) in the Quran that which is a healing and a mercy to those who believe: to the unjust it causes nothing but loss after loss. (Surah Al Isra’ 17:81-82)...Peace
Best of luck with that one: Sharia is by its very nature unjust and oppressive; it is therefore unacceptable to all those who value justice, freedom and equality.
@skarfaced - First off, I said "your country"...to the person I was replying to, becuz he/she does not live in the U.S. so, Yes...YOUR COUNTRY. Now, as where i would prefer to live...America hands down. Because Islamic countries ALSO deal with corrupt governments and mostly because they do not implement sharia correctly, similar to the way the american constitution is being used as toilet paper right now. American People are great!!! but American govt. is a horse of a different color!!!!
@2411Mach implement shariah "correctly"? it sounds as if they do! they pretty much follow the ancient primitive holy text word for word. if no country implements it "correctly", then obviously it's a concept that cannot be put into practice. if no country implements it correctly, why keep trying to get it into law? it sounds like communism...looks good on paper, but.....but wait a minute. shariah doesn't even look good on paper. fuck
@skarfaced - I have no problem with thieves getting their hands chopped off lol...innocent ppl executed in error is not accepted!!! A reminder: "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in GOD hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (Quran 2::256)...Truth always wins...we all gone meet our maker, let's pray for sincerity and the removal of arrogance...peace
@skarfaced - If you followed the conversation more closely u would've known why I said "your country"...the person I was replying to, does not live in the U.S. so, Yes...YOUR COUNTRY. I also prefer to live in the U.S. because Islamic countries ALSO deal with corrupt governments and mostly because they do not implement sharia correctly, similar to the way the american constitution is being used as toilet paper. American People are great!!! but American govt. is a horse of a different color!!!!
@2411Mach i'd take prostitution and some deaths that come with drunk driving any day because it's a small consequence of the freedom we get. unless you want to live in a country that cuts of the hand of thieves.....i'll take my bike getting stolen once in a while because i have more freedom here.
@floriswazza - and??? Did you even read my comment. And I will not continue talking with you if your tactic for debate is throwing insults. I never insulted you in my comment. PLEASE ANSWER THIS!!! : Who has a bigger vehicular manslaughter problem, due to drunk driving...USA or Saudi Arabia? YOU LOSE my friend...you asked for one thing and there you go!! If you wanna use another argument, I'm game!!! Love Peace and Hair grease...brah
@2411Mach i don't give a fuck about what your rambling about. i live in the netherlands. you called me a fascist. i've asked for one example of something your country is doing better in. you have failed to give me an example. so please just ONE example. i know you cant give it cuz there aint one lol FTW
@floriswazza -Whoa brougham chill out. First of all, I wrote 3 comments and the word "fascist" was not mentioned. Secondly, I live in the US, Arabia is not my country . You asked for one thing: Alcohol related issues other countrries have. Close to 100,000 ppl each year die in my country because of alcohol and that is a SUPER low number. I'm sure muslim countries don't have that problem..but I'm positive they have other problems...peace and love
@floriswazza - Whoa...chill out. First of all, look at the 3 comments I posted and you will not find the word "fascist" written. Secondly, I live in the US, Arabia is not my country. You asked for ONE thing and here it is: "ALCOHOL RELTATED DEATHS"!!!!!!!! Each year more than 100,000 ppl die in the US because of alcohol use. Islamic countries don't have that problem...but they have other problems that the US doesn't have. There you go ONE THING!!!! Peace and Love
In how many Western nations are Muslim armies stationed? In how many Muslim nations Western armies are stationed? In how many Western nations Muslim backed leaders or governments are ruling? Now, in how many Muslim nations Western backed leaders, families, and governments rule?
Yet, yet, yeeet, Muslims are a threat? MUSLAMICS are a threat? ISLAMIFICATION???
Europification of Muslims has been going on for the past 2 centuries. You can't even get a job if you dont know ENGLISH in Muslim states.
@time0is0a0myth there might not be muslim armies stationed in western countries, but there are certainly countless of muslims who move to western countries and try to change our traditions. like the muslims who tried to get a special prayer room without christian symbols in a PRIVATE catholic university. like the muslims who tried to get a PUBLIC swimming pool to cater to their beliefs and segregate boys and girls. like the muslims who try to bring in sharia.
@skarfaced again, the muslims who threaten western and westernized muslim authors of any book that criticizes islam. this has to stop now. people are sick and tired of muslims and their need for special treatment, all because of their primitive belief system. everybody knows about muslims' difficulty with integrating into society. we all know they segregate themselves and want their own law. GO HOME. we don't want it here.
@skarfaced - NJ it is lol!!!! 99% of the ppl in this country are NOT from here...ONLY the native americans. Oh yeah, you're peeps killed them off and created a day called Thanksgiving to secretly remember the slaughter lol Listen...I'm 1,000% more American than you!!!! I stand for justice, truth, and equality!!! Ya came up with that after the civil rights movement...save the patriotic speech for July 4th...maybe I'll pay more attention to your bigotry then. Peace Love and hair grease...ONE
A "moderate" Muslim is a conformist self-hating defeatist who think that by abandoning his beliefs and identity he will be accepted. Yet the evidence suggest, looking at prior conformists like those natives of America's, Africa, and Australia that caved into European imperialism, that it only gets worse with time. As muslims you can change your religion, but as brown, black, and asians you can't change your physical characteristics. if not religion, then it's your skin, shape of eye and nose.
Who said having sex with boys and donkey's is ok? I've seen it in their mother land....it's sick. I remember their coin phase, boys are for fun and women are for making babies.Yep you heard it here. We are against the ARAB everything, side note. I'm an Islamophob and proud of it!
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ncapcs 1 week ago
No such thing as islamofobia.
Its called islamonausea.
zamestol 1 week ago
Good Work Man!!!!Peace
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Uzbek man guilty of plotting to kill President Obama (YahooNews/Reuters Feb 11, 2012):
"A man from Uzbekistan living illegally in the United States pleaded guilty on Friday to terrorism and weapons charges involving a plot to kill President Barack Obama. According to court evidence ... he was acting on behalf of an Islamist militant group in his homeland and was plotting to shoot Obama while the president campaigned for re-election this year."
Looks like the "phobes" finally got him. ;-)
Wrath0fKhan 2 weeks ago
@Wrath0fKhan yeah yeah yeah sure, Islam is cultural imperialism, not the Western culture. That is probably the reason we see most people in the world dressed in an Islamic and not Western fashion, buildings predominantly being build in Middle Eastern and not Western styles, most TV channels in the world showing Muslim prayer lessons instead of Disney cartoons. And have you seen Anne Coulter's new burqa? Lol dude, keep living in your world of hatred.
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Wrath0fKhan 3 weeks ago
@Wrath0fKhan So do many Latin American dictatorships that are a product of Western Culture. Oppression can come from any form of religion or political ideology. And the one that is pushing their political ideology and way of life down everyone's throat is the West.
Uzbekimage 3 weeks ago
@Uzbekimage
"product of Western Culture"
Product of certain atavisms... Not product of democracy, humanism, liberalism, individualism, ect. You demonstrably fail again.
"form of religion or political ideology"
Especially when religion and politics become indistinguishable. Currently Islam is the best example of this.
"is the West"
West is the best. This is demonstrable. See UNs HDI and IHDI statistics.
Wrath0fKhan 3 weeks ago
@Wrath0fKhan So, when the West produces dictatorships and death squads somewhere in Nicaragua it is a product of certain atavisms, and not product of the West. But when Islamic world produces a dictatorship and death squads somewhere in Libya it is the fault of Islam? Bigotry anyone?
Uzbekimage 2 weeks ago
@Uzbekimage
"West produces dictatorships"
Far less dictatorships than "non-West." And you still dont get it, right?
"death squads in Nicaragua"
Sure... Yet on average the West and those who join the West are faring much better. And you still dont get it, right?
"Islamic world produces"
Its all about prevalence, isnt it. Indeed; and you still dont get it.
Wrath0fKhan 2 weeks ago
@Wrath0fKhan West produces less dictatorships? Actually most of Latin America was ruled by dictators during the entire 20th century. Soviet Union took dictatorship to a whole new level. North Korean regime, Chinese Communist regime, Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia, communist dictatorships in Africa like one in Angola, and Ethiopia are all products of Western ideas. All sprung up from the powerful pen of Karl Marx, who studied under Hegel. Western secularism at it's height.
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Wrath0fKhan 2 weeks ago
@Uzbekimage
"bigotry anyone"
Killing homosexuals, cutting off limbs of thieves, physically punishing adulterers and those who dare to "challenge" rasool allah. Holy bigotry, indeed.
Wrath0fKhan 2 weeks ago
@Wrath0fKhan I'd rather have that than titty bars, my daughter being fucked by some looser in on the back seat of a car, my children being taught at school that being a homosexual is ok.
Uzbekimage 2 weeks ago
@U
"Id rather have that"
Exactly... Thats why you have nothing lost "here."
"my daughter being fucked by some looser"
Riiiight... Id better not had my daughter being raped and beaten on daily basis by an abusive husband without having having the possibility for some safe haven (and enforceable rights).
"being taught ... homosexual is ok"
Of course being homosexual is OK. Its "natural" (e.g. theres a genetic and or epigenetic factor) and when its consensual no one gets hurt.
Wrath0fKhan 2 weeks ago
@Wrath0fKhan Being a homosexual is NOT OK. It is not natural. It is an anomaly, a disgusting abomination. You want perversions taught to your children? Go ahead. We can see what it created in the West. A complete destruction of family institution.
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Wrath0fKhan 2 weeks ago
@Wrath0fKhan Where I come from there is respect for the elderly, no cursing in families, no half naked women walking the streets, wives and daughters are humble and modest, and old people are not dumped in "homes" by their own children to die on a piss soaked bed surrounded by strangers. It is in the West that I first saw a child telling his mother to fuck herself. It is in the west that I saw a wife call her husband a bitch. Our family values are superior to Western ones.
Uzbekimage 2 weeks ago
@Uzbekimage
Silence on spousal sexual assault jarring: Doctors (The Express Tribune, March 9, 2011):
"Gynecologists at several city hospitals have expressed their concerns over the growing number of married female patients who are forced into intercourse. “The number of marital rape cases keeps going up but no one even acknowledges that the problem exists."
Wrath0fKhan 2 weeks ago
@Wrath0fKhan Who said marital rape is ok in Islam?
Uzbekimage 2 weeks ago
@Uzbekimage
Who said marital rape is ok in Islam:
watch?v=QwlW9Qq_zEc
Wrath0fKhan 2 weeks ago
@Wrath0fKhan A rape would be if a woman resists her husband and he still takes her against her will. The video you provided only speaks of a Hadith that says that a woman should satisfy her husband, and if she does not angels will be upset with her. It does not say it is ok for husband to have sex with her, while she is resisting. Nice try though.
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@Uzbekimage
Silence on spousal sexual assault jarring: Doctors (The Express Tribune, March 9, 2011):
"Gynecologists at several city hospitals have expressed their concerns over the growing number of married female patients who are forced into intercourse. “The number of marital rape cases keeps going up but no one even acknowledges that the problem exists."
Wrath0fKhan 2 weeks ago
@Wrath0fKhan As far as that Saudi cleric goes. I say Saudi clerics can go to hell. They are like the pharisees of the New Testament. They are so focused on following their interpretation of the law to a letter, that they forget that love and compassion is the reason behind true Islam. It is these backward clerics that we can blame for the backwardness of Islamic societies.
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@Uzbekimage
pewresearch (August 13, 2009)
"Pakistan: Growing Concerns About Extremism, Continuing Discontent with U.S."
bit(.)ly/KOPEQ
"The new poll finds broad support for harsh punishments: 78% favor death for those who leave Islam; 80% favor whippings and cutting off hands for crimes like theft and robbery; and 83% favor stoning adulterers."
Wrath0fKhan 2 weeks ago
@Uzbekimage
Men should be allowed sex slaves and female prisoners could do the job - and all this from a WOMAN politician from Kuwait (DailyMail, June 7, 2011):
"A Kuwaiti woman who once ran for parliament has called for sex slavery to be legalised - and suggested that non-Muslim prisoners from war-torn countries would make suitable concubines."
Wrath0fKhan 2 weeks ago 2
@Wrath0fKhan A Muslim woman can divorce an abusive husband. She has rights, in many aspects exceeding those of a Western woman.
Uzbekimage 2 weeks ago
@Uzbekimage
"muslim woman can divorce an abusive husband"
First she must prove that he is abusive and that this abuse is beyond the tolerated level of abuse prescribed by "Allah." Then she practically becomes undesired and untouchable.
"in many aspects exceeding those of a Western woman"
Must be a joke...
Wrath0fKhan 2 weeks ago
@Wrath0fKhan A divorced Muslim woman is not untouchable. Divorce is ok in Islam, there is no stigma attached to it. A Muslim husband has to provide for his woman. A woman can work and have a business, and the money she makes are hers to keep, a husband can't take it. So he has to feed and cloth her, and she can do what she wants with her money.
Uzbekimage 2 weeks ago
@Uzbekimage
Child bride horrors last a lifetime (CNN Sept 30, 2010):
"Reem al Numeri is 14-years-old and recently divorced. She was 11 when she says her father forced her to marry a cousin more than twice her age. Reem says she has been stigmatized by her divorce and now lives the life of an outcast. Without a husband or father to support her, she cannot attend school."
Wrath0fKhan 2 weeks ago
@Wrath0fKhan Who says forcing a person to marry someone is ok in Islam?
Uzbekimage 2 weeks ago
@Wrath0fKhan You are confusing Shariat and Adat. Many Muslim societies live by Adat, their local old customs, many of them pre-Islamic. Woman's life under Sharia is good. Her life under Adat can be hell. That is why I mention a need for a purely Islamic society, without backward tribal customs, a society that elects it's leaders, a society that protects private property and enforces honest business practices, a society that protects the rights of both men and women.
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@Uzbekimage
Child bride horrors last a lifetime (CNN Sept 30, 2010):
"More than 100 leading religious clerics called the attempt to restrict the age of marriage "un-Islamic"."
Lebanon Sunni clergy reject domestic abuse law (Google News, June 25, 2011):
"This will have a negative impact on Muslim children... who will see their mother threatening their father with prison, in defiance of patriarchal authority"
Wrath0fKhan 2 weeks ago
@Uzbekimage
I see you have no idea about "what is" (e.g. what we are able to measure). In other words, key social indicators expose you as a crackpot. Game over.
Wrath0fKhan 2 weeks ago
@Wrath0fKhan I know one thing for sure. I saw how children can treat their parents in the West. I saw how young men and women interact with each other and the elders. And I know that I DO NOT WANT THAT in my country.
Uzbekimage 2 weeks ago
@Uzbekimage
Incestoids...
Global Prevalence of consanguinity
consang(.)net/index(.)php/Global_prevalence
Wrath0fKhan 2 weeks ago
@Wrath0fKhan You are saying that Muslim world is backward because religion and politics are indistinguishable. Show me a single truly Islamic state today. Before you can blame the problems of the Middle East, dictatorships, political and economic backwardness on Islam, prove that Middle East is run based on true Islamic principles. Show me a truly Islamic country.
Uzbekimage 2 weeks ago
@Uzbekimage
"backward because of religion and politics are indistinguishable"
Obviously there is a measurable substantial overlap there. This is actually nothing new, "we" experienced the same a couple centuries ago.
"truly Islamic state"
Ah... The "perfect recipe" fallacy turns up again. Well, the truly Islamic state (allegedly) existed at the time of the prophet. Read the Quran, hadith, sirat, tafsir and so on. Full of slavery, murder, rape, loot, self-induced martyrdom...
Wrath0fKhan 2 weeks ago
@Wrath0fKhan Qur'an is full of slavery, murder, rape, loot? So is the Bible. The Islamic state of the prophet Muhammad (SAWS) was no more violent than any other state of that time period.
Uzbekimage 2 weeks ago
@Uzbekimage
"so is the bible"
Sure... Yet its not considered the best example to be followed. Uswa Hasana is by definition so to say.
"no more violent than any other state of that time period"
This may or may not be a true statement. Yet even that doesnt matter, since "we" dont consider these examples worthy of being emulated. "You" do. Again, a sophomoric fail on your part.
Wrath0fKhan 2 weeks ago
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@Uzbekimage
And here is "proof:"
Turkish court accepts online blasphemy case, ECtHR ruling precedent (todayszaman, 27 Dec, 2011)
Calls to Behead Indonesian Atheist Alexander Aan (JakartaGlobe, Feb 2, 2012)
Egypt star Adel Imam sentenced to three months for 'defaming Islam'" (Canadacom/AFP, Feb 2, 2012)
And so on and so forth. Now... Youd do much better if you stopped discrediting yourself.
Wrath0fKhan 3 weeks ago
Islamophobia is a stupid term. Islam is scary, look at beheading. Muslim imperialists want to dominate the world. I do not have a big problem with Muslims being Muslims in their own nations. Its not about Muslims wearing their silly hates, its about the fact they behead people. Muslims need to learn to chillout like Christian(for the most part) have. However it is stupid to be blinded by "Islamophobia", Islamism may be bad but Zionism is worse.
SAEuropeanPatriot 3 weeks ago
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Islamophobeophobia: "the irrational fear or hatred of people who object to being targeted, persecuted and killed on the grounds that they refuse to submit to the Muslim God Allah".
deah99 3 weeks ago
Every one of the three big monotheist religions claims to be the only one, the better one, the right one, which is why all three of them are also victim of "cultural imperialism". Islamophobes are just as wrong as "Christophobes" (how do you call them?). You either critisize religion in general or you worship your God and don't care if others worship their's. If you want to critisize specific aspects of one religion, you don't generalize and you better start with your own.
lagrenounouille 3 weeks ago
Check out these two videos of the Original Call Project on Youtube:
Islamophobia Neutralized: The Agenda of Fearmongering & Arabnophobia
Islamophobia Neutralized: A Closer Look at Islam (incl. Interactive Menu)
Nebulous1982 3 weeks ago
@Wrath0fKhan Too much a generalization, but ur on the right track.
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The "generalization" is based on evidence.
Wrath0fKhan 3 weeks ago
@Wrath0fKhan Generalization is never objective; it can therefore not be seen as valid evidence, cause it isnt usable. Fail. But as I said.. ur on the right track.
focusontheargument 3 weeks ago
@focusontheargument
"Generalization is never objective"
I have no idea what you are talking about.
"it can therefore not be seen as valid evidence, cuase it isnt usable"
Erm... Still no idea what you are talking about.
"Fail"
To me it looks like you are failing to explain yourself properly.
"on the right track"
Thats because I didnt invent any of that stuff. It was brought forth by experts in their respective fields. I just put forward those reports.
Wrath0fKhan 3 weeks ago
@Wrath0fKhan Ur lack of understanding is not my problem. Have a nice day now :)
focusontheargument 3 weeks ago
@focusontheargument
"ur lack of understanding"
You didnt bring anything forward that would elucidate your position. Neither did you bring anything forward that would substantially challenge the (references to) facts which I provided.
"not my problem"
To me it looks like its exactly that. Your problem only.
"nice day"
Indeed... Someones (e.g. your) ignorance is not going to ruin my day. So... Less ignorance on your part and have a nice day, too.
Wrath0fKhan 3 weeks ago
@Wrath0fKhan 1. I dont want to discuss an imbecile fool.
2. Not my problem is a way of speaking to make clear that the problem is at the side of the other.
3. Ur ignorance ruined ur life, and now ur trying to hit the ball back? Some people will never change :)
Bye bye have a nice day :) As they say; ignorance is bliss!
focusontheargument 3 weeks ago
@focusontheargument
"imbecile fool"
So thats why you are refusing to bring the real deal to the table - because of being an imbecile fool! LOL
"ur ignorance ruined your life"
Holy sh*t...
"ignorance is bliss"
Sure. Even in the light of facts. Congratulations. :-)
Wrath0fKhan 3 weeks ago
@Wrath0fKhan 1. I wont discuss u, yes I refuse to.
2. Indeed.
3. Facts are a dime a dozen. Its about understanding them. Have a nice day now!
focusontheargument 3 weeks ago
@focusontheargument
"wont discuss u, I refuse to"
Obviously... Explanation? Apparently a simple one will suffice. You have nothing to bring to the table.
"facts are a dime a dozen"
Your disregard for plain facts is amazing. Almost a "muslim-like" approach.
"understanding them"
This is funny... You want to sell a "product" yet you dont have one. Guess what; Im not buying.
And now, have a nice day for real! LOL
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@Wrath0fKhan Ur completely out of arguments. Go visit a shrink to help u with ur psychological youth-trauma due to religious indoctrination and ID crisis. Have a nice day!
focusontheargument 3 weeks ago
Very true! Culture and Imperialism, by Edward Said.
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donttalktomebitch1 1 month ago
Islam is true becaue it is true - DOGMA! unreason! Western Enlightement values are true because they produce results SCIENCE, EDUCATION, TOLERANCE, DOUBT, DECREASING VIOLENCE in most secularised western countries. WAKE UP please WAKE UP. Learn History, learn the value of doubt. Peace.
MGX890 1 month ago
@MGX890 Very true.
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ewresearch (August 13, 2009)
"Pakistan: Growing Concerns About Extremism, Continuing Discontent with U.S."
bit(.)ly/KOPEQ
"The new poll finds broad support for harsh punishments: 78% favor death for those who leave Islam; 80% favor whippings and cutting off hands for crimes like theft and robbery; and 83% favor stoning adulterers."
One or the other, right, Sami? Its "your way" (i.e. the "medieval one") or "our way" (i.e. the "enlightened one") and there is no middle ground...
Wrath0fKhan 1 month ago 6
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Lebanon Sunni clergy reject domestic abuse law
[bit(.)ly/jIkSDu+]
""This will have a negative impact on Muslim children... who will see their mother threatening their father with prison, in defiance of patriarchal authority, which will in turn undermine the moral authority" of fathers, it said."
Reviving the medievals? Come on Sami... Time to get clean.
Wrath0fKhan 1 month ago 3
Islamaphobes want to see their culture superscede the culture of others? Funny, I always hear Muslims talking about how every nation should follow Sharia law. So would the wars waged by Islam against Christian nations for 600 years classify as "Imperialism" It fits your definition. Bottom line, your understanding of history is severely limited, highly selective, intellectually dishonest, and effectively juvenile. You embarras yourself, and your "culture" with every video you create.
MasterJediTimm 1 month ago
Cultural Imperialists? How very ironic to hear a subscriber to 7th Century Arabian Cultural Imperialism calling that to another group of people (who his people were attacking, enslaving and annexing several hundred years before any response).
Of course we want our culture above others in our own lands...Muslims do the same in their lands - and sometimes violently enforce that.
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ISLAMOPHOBIA? BUT ISLAM BY ITS OWN NATURE SCARES PEOPLE. ISLAM IS A POLITCAL SUPREMACIST RELIGION WHOSE AIM IS TO CONQUER THE WORLD. THE QURAN TELLS MUSLIMS TO FIGHT UNTIL THE WHOLE WORLD BECOMES MUSLIM, 9:29-33, THE SHARIA IS A FASCIST LAW. IT DOES NOT CONDEM MEN WHO BEAT THEIR WIVES, DISCRIMINATES AGAINST NON MUSLIMS, KILLS APOSTATES, STONES ADULTERERS, CUTS THE HAND OF THIEVES, EVEN IF IT IS AN ERROR OF YOUTH, HUMILIATES WOMEN: THEY INHERIT HALF, THEIR TESTIMONY IS WORTH HALF, CAN BE BEATEN
DictaduraNo123 1 month ago
So, no, your video was a terrible, and this is my basic response to almost everything you said:
/watch?v=M4Li2s1ig7o#t=55s
Gunderson002 1 month ago
Don't get me wrong, even though I am a little concerned about large Islamist elements among the protesters, I'm not losing sleep over a huge Islamist takeover of the Arab governments. However, that doesn't change the fact that your logic here is absolute shite. By your logic, 99% of people who've ever existed are cultural imperialists just for criticizing stuff that happens in foreign countries.
Furthermore, I am quite critical of my own culture as well as others, so I'm not a hypocrite.
Gunderson002 1 month ago
Also, you're saying that just because people say "Hey, maybe you shouldn't impose your religious beliefs upon others who don't want it; just a thought" are bigoted Islamophobes and cultural imperialists? Well, I assume you condemn the horrendous massacres against Muslims in Serbia and Bulgaria during the late 19th and early 20th centuries. But by your logic, these actions were perfectly acceptable; after all, they were ordained by the majority. See where this logic falls on its ass now?
Gunderson002 1 month ago
Sami, I thought you were going to make a genuine point here, but you really disappointed me the moment you said that the phrases 'moderate Muslim' and 'extremist Muslim' are labels of cultural imperialism. Even moderate Muslims use these phrases to describe themselves and the nutters of their faith. What you're saying might be true for those who genuinely hold bigoted views towards Muslims, but for the rest of us, we use the exact same terminology to describe people of other religions.
Gunderson002 1 month ago
I cannot find exactly what is wrong with a person in their indigenous homeland wanting to hold on and protect their culture. Muslims fundamentalists are often times keen of Islamic superiority and world domination. I am not saying that many other faiths have followers who wish for the same, but the way Muslims go about establishing themselves throughout Europe creates clash and resentment from the Europeans. Muslims want to imperialise the west before any other region. I'm not down down this.
RedSkyNord 1 month ago
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@urheadonastick
I would agree with your point that Mohammad did not always set a good example as to how we should live our lives today as a civilized society.
But I've got to laugh each time I hear Christians say "burn in hell" -- it is so Christian like.
iviewthetube 1 month ago
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Islamophobia has become a useless term. Labeling all Muslims as terrorists or violent is wrong, but it's also wrong to label criticising religious doctrine as Islamophobia. It's perfectly okay to criticise a doctrine, but it's not okay to hate or discriminate the people, Muslims. Luckily most Muslims are sane enough not to follow all the teachings in their holy books.
SidHenderson 1 month ago
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If Americans had any basic intelligence they would realize that the ethnic supremacists in Tel Aviv and their sold out Congress/Senate/President who just signed away their constitution are clearly the biggest threat they face, and Muslims are the scape-goat DISTRACTION used to scare the average uneducated dim-wit into letting their basic rights be taken.
Islamophobia (which in many cases is nothing but outright anti-arab Zionist-fuelled racism) helps to sell the illegal wars as well
OrthodoxDarwinist 1 month ago
@urheadonastick
You must become a comedian
MrPathanStyle 1 month ago
جزاك الله الف خير
بارك الله فيك
fune2010 1 month ago
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I'm an Islamophobe. I have no problem with the Arab Spring. I think it's funny. A bunch of Muslims running around in circles, yelling, and killing each other? That's what they do. They're Muslims. I just don't want that going on here.
I know. Oil. If they don't want to sell us their oil, fine. I can ride a bike. They can go back to eating sand. They are so productive otherwise, you know.
What's the best way out of a depression? A war. Let's take that oil for real. Fucking Muslims.
SheikhTaqiyyameister 1 month ago
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Cultural Imperialism:
“Allah and His angels shower blessings on the Prophet. So believers, send your blessings on him, and salute him with all respect—a worthy salutation. Those who annoy Allah and His Messenger and speak evil things of them—Allah has cursed them and prepared a humiliating torment.” Sura 33:56.
“Those who speak negatively of Allah and His Apostle shall be cursed.” Sura 33:57.
Yes. The tolerance of Muslims is legendary. Look how well Christians are treated in Muslim countries!
SheikhTaqiyyameister 1 month ago
You really are the ugliest person I've ever seen, both inside and out. For your information, I'm an atheist, not a christian. Your abject disconnect from logic is terrifying to me.
batmanpronz 2 months ago
@jacksparrowdepp - You can't talk to that guy without getting down to his level of stupidity ..So just ignore him
MrXiddi 2 months ago
@brotherwoody1 - I'm a muslim and I agree with you ..
MrXiddi 2 months ago
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@urheadonastick I think you two make a great combined argument as to why both your holy books are disgusting and sick. Enough said, I guess. Why bother making atheist arguments when religious people do all the work for us by comparing the hideousness of their holy books? Keep up the good work, boys!
alexanderalexandrou 2 months ago
As good as some of your points might be about the demonizing of Islam due to other agendas, all you would have to do to avoid being called a moderate or extremist anything would be to give up on religion in general. This would also be an intellectually honest position, seeing as no deity has any evidence in support of its existence, whether islamic, christian, or otherwise.
alexanderalexandrou 2 months ago
Islamophobia is a tactic to demonoize arabs... To demonoize a race would be obviously racist so the next best thing would be to demonoize their ideology... Same thing like instead of demonoizing Chinese, they demonoize "communism" which is linked to the Chinese... So by demonoizing Islam and by extension the arabs, it makes mass murder, stealing their lands and obvious war crimes justifiable....
FD87 2 months ago
As an American, I simply don't care what law the Arab spring embraces. Sharia is fine with me. However, I don't want Sharia here in this country. I simply wouldn't like to live under it. . .ever. I don't like it. I think of it as a 7th century totalitarian tyranny. On the other hand, our NWO empire should dissolve & we should get the hell out of Moslem lands & mind our own business. I don't think that I'm Islamophobic but I could be wrong. You're a Moslem, what do you think?
BrotherWoody1 2 months ago
Muslims are animals and need a brutal dictator to keep them in check, lest Sharia law take effect and curb basic human freedoms. You have to remember that many arab nations also have non-muslims living there. I absolutely do care what law the Arab spring embraces. This push for democracy is a dangerous gamble. Would you really advocate muslim majority leadership?
batmanpronz 2 months ago
@batmanpronz I'll put it this way: I wouldn't spend 1 more tax dollar in keeping muslim majority leadrships from emerging in muslim countries while, at the same time, disdaining & rejecting any form of Sharia law from emerging as positive law in America. In this country, we "crown our good with brotherhood," so, all of us "animals" deserve respect for our human & civil rights, including muslims. You might feel better about things if you vote for Ron Paul.
BrotherWoody1 2 months ago
@BrotherWoody1 Muslims were attacking/invading non-muslim nations LONG before anyone had foreign military in Muslim lands. We could pull out tomorrow and inside of 2 days they'd be attacking us again. They've done this historically. It's just in their blood. It's not about our presence there,that's just an excuse they use. It's about our not being Muslim. Period. Evidence of that is 1500 years of unprovoked violence perpetrated by the followers of the "religion of peace" against non-muslims
MasterJediTimm 1 month ago
@MasterJediTimm Aggression, war & conquest is no more in "their blood" than it is in anyone else's. Think of Alexander, Rome, Sun-Tsu, or in the 12th century, Genghis Khan. You have some good points, however, your anthropology is historically myopic. A "religious" banner has often been the rasion d'etre for rape, pillage & plunder. To paraphrase the Bard, "the fault isn't in our stars (religion) but in ourselves." Throughout history war has been seen by humans as fun.
BrotherWoody1 1 month ago
@BrotherWoody1 Genghis Khan etc waged war as a matter of conquest for power. So it's a behavior choice.Not a disposition. For Islam it's inherent disposition. Evidence of that is Islam is the only entity that STILL wages war against civilization.Where are the mongols, Romans, etc today?? I can wage war for my religion if I choose to behave that way. But that's MY behavior choice. It doesn't mean my religion mandates it, and so my religious affiliation is immaterial.For Islam, it's not immaterial
MasterJediTimm 1 month ago
"War is politics by other means" & politics is ONLY about power. As for the religious dimension of war, ever hear of the motto "God, Honor & Country?" Or "Onward Christian Soldiers?" Even Genghis justified his slaughters by his epiphany & belief that God destined him to rule the world. All "true" religions foster "true" believers who are willing to kill & be killed for the sake of their "truth." Islam isn't alone. Theocracies are always totalitarian as was once Christendom.
BrotherWoody1 1 month ago
@BrotherWoody1 You haven't addressed anything I said, it's like you're just spewing random ideas about religion, all of them based on a vested hostility toward religion, and not a lot of thought about religion. Equating Islam with any other religion in the world is like equating cars with motorcycles because they both have wheels. But a car is not the same as a motorcycle, and not all cars are created equally. Which makes your thinking on religion painfully limited. And limitING
MasterJediTimm 1 month ago
@MasterJediTimm You seem no different from any other fundamentalist. You're convinced of your own perspective & committed to it. Perhaps your own mental capacities are your religion, I wouldn't know. Your particular religious brand is irrelevant to the crisis. I don't hate Islam or any other religion. I don't hate Moslems. If you do, enlist in an army & go kill some with self-righteous impunity. Americans aren't interested in doing that anymore---a reason to vote for Ron Paul.
BrotherWoody1 1 month ago
@BrotherWoody1 You obviously don't know what "fundamentalist" means, or its easier for you to label me than it is to refute my opinions. I'm approaching you with a philosophy based on historical, irrefutable facts. Perspective has nothing to do with it. So using your feelings about religion to discount my thoughts is ridiculous. Don't worry about questioning MY mental capacities, my friend. Use that time and effort to question your own intellectual honesty, which has made a poor showing here.
MasterJediTimm 1 month ago
@BrotherWoody1 Many religions have used their beliefs to justify political acts (war included) in the past (bar Jainism I think!). However the issue is really whether or not a religion actually condones war or not. In the case of Islam it clearly does. Christianity generally doesn't - Jesus preached pacifism, Mohammad led men to war. What makes Mohammad more moral than Jesus? I am an atheist by the way...and Christianity isn't in the 1600s anymore is it?
Hereticalable 1 month ago
Yes, Christendom is dead but there's a penumbra of Christian thought that still permeates the West & Russian international relations including the "just war" criteria. Since 1986, the Assisi Conference has yearly brought together leaders of the world's religions for the purpose of fostering peace among themselves. Islam has been an active & continuous participant. It's counterproductive to dwell on foundational documents to the detriment of theological progress & development.
BrotherWoody1 1 month ago
@BrotherWoody1 Yes, the representative muslims present at Assisi frequently quote Hasan AlBana who is the founder of the Muslim brotherhood...you know...the ones who make no bones about wanting to wipe israel off the map, and have admitted an intent to destroy western culture. These are the people representing Islam at these conferences. I honestly do respect your thinking, but you obviously give Islam a pass it doesn't deserve because your research is selective
MasterJediTimm 1 month ago
@MasterJediTimm To reset: I'm fairly familiar with the work of Robert Spencer as well as the Islamist propaganda machine. Whether we continue our hot war against them is open to question & a diversity of answers. My view is that we can't continue because we can't afford to continue. We now borrow the money from other countries to pay for these wars and then print more money merely to service the loans, let alone, touching the principal. We need to make friends with the Moslems.
BrotherWoody1 1 month ago
@BrotherWoody1 Robert Spencer is small potatoes. I hope your study doesn't end with Spencer. I was studying HIS sources when I was 14. Discovered AlBana's writings when I was 15. Was cross referencing Islam-apologists like Thomas Arnold at 16. Getting down to the facts of history and precedent and present example, I conclude there is no making friends with the Islamic machine, short of living under subjugation or all out conversion to Islam.
MasterJediTimm 1 month ago
@BrotherWoody1 I'm the first to sacrifice for the sake of getting along. But at the same time i recognize when a threat is so relentless that the only compromise is complete surrender...and I'm not becoming Muslim, and I won't live under Sharia. There is no making friends with Islam. There isn't a single cultural example IN HISTORY to suggest the contrary. Not one! Not even in Turkey, which is the most secular of muslim nations yet still enforces laws that discriminate against non-muslims.
MasterJediTimm 1 month ago
We don't need to make friends with Islam but with Moslems. Our elites need to meet them in the public arena. We need to judge for ourselves as to the actual state of affairs. The public needs a voice in foreign affairs different from the shill spin of their politicians. As two implacable enemies wage war on each other, we must discover ways to make each of them more inclined toward peace. Making friends with Moslems seem a better way to proceed than wars that break the bank.
BrotherWoody1 1 month ago
@BrotherWoody1 It's troubling that your philosophy time and again goes back to the cost of the issue, rather than the heart of the issue. Having said that, I think your'e right on most of this, but in order for Muslims to support peace they have to become less Muslim, because the war the "radicals" are fighting is prescribed by the Quran, not merely by their personal opinions. See my next comment for more...
MasterJediTimm 1 month ago
@MasterJediTimm Yes, because war always costs & before you enter one or extend one, you'd better be able to pay for it. Perhaps they do have to become less Muslim & more American. If we can't turn them, then they won't be turned. But it's up to us to find Muslims that love America more than they love Islam. Because most folks practice their religion in the breech, this shouldn't be impossible to do. What other choice is there. We won't be able to pay for our bullets if wars go on
BrotherWoody1 1 month ago
@BrotherWoody1 I don't know that they have to become more American necessarily, they just have to recognize that a philosophy of conflict has no place in any civilized modern society--American or otherwise. And maybe in order to do that they have to understand/learn/recognize that their ideology is a product of a maniac, not a profit of God.
MasterJediTimm 1 month ago
@BrotherWoody1 as I was about to say...So long as the Quran orders Muslims to wage war against us, and orders non-combatant muslims to at least support the Jihad (with money, for example) there will always be some sect of Islam blowing up our buildings and murdering people. Islam IS the problem, despite the good intentions of a small minority of genuinely peaceful, devout muslims. To make peace, Muslims have to abandon the Hadith, and ignore half of what Muhammed teaches in the Quran.
MasterJediTimm 1 month ago 2
@BrotherWoody1 I think you're 90% right, I'm a real libertarian that way. However the situation isn't simple enough to say "Get out of muslim lands". The last time we ignored the threat of crazy-Islam they practically overran Europe. They still control formerly-Christian lands they overran a thousand years ago. Look at those countries now; was it a good thing that they fell to Muslim rule? Sharia is an evil invention of the mind of a lunatic and pervert. No human being should live under Sharia!
MasterJediTimm 1 month ago
@MasterJediTimm I agree with you but we live in a different empire & this clash of civilizations must end before annihilate ourselves. This hot war with Islam has become a war of attrition. To cool it down, we need to get out of their lands & divest our interests in military conquest & economic totalitarianism. With the Police/Militarized State that we've now become, it'll be difficult to change our course. Perhaps the last time for a long time is Ron Paul to start the change.
BrotherWoody1 1 month ago
@BrotherWoody1 By the way I'm a Ron Paul supporter, too. But this war against "radical" islam is not about the usual "we shouldn't be in any country other than our own" argument. These people are crazy. They've always been crazy, and their so-called "religion" is founded on principals of violence and subjugation against ANYONE who isn't muslim. This fight is bigger than politics, brother. Far bigger!
MasterJediTimm 1 month ago
@MasterJediTimm They're no more "crazy" than any other group that fights for their religion. Jews, Christians & Moslems have & still are prepared to kill to protect & advance their own "true" religion. Religions are by their exclusivity, totalitarian in nature. A religious person has an ultimate commitment. Political ideologies are now subsumed under religion. Naziism, Communism, tribalism, nationalism, racism, sexism, are ideas that require an individual's ultimate commitment.
BrotherWoody1 1 month ago
@BrotherWoody1 If you equate the Islamic war machine to that of any other religion I'm afraid you don't know Islam. Islam wages war against non-muslims by MANDATE; it is core to Islamic jurisprudence. Insofar as it is a mandated posture, it makes Islam an ideology, not a religion. Other religions issue guideliens for living (and none of them prescribe a posture of war). Ideologies presume to mandate and force/enforce a lifestyle. ONLY Islam does this. So you are right to equate it with Naziism.
MasterJediTimm 1 month ago
@BrotherWoody1 Incidentally if they're no more crazy than any other group that fights for their religion, show me a religion where its followers are sawing people's heads off on camera. Show me a religion where raping your wife is permitted, and even supported. Show me a religion where institutionalized discrimination is its code of law? Or where executing gays is permitted. I can go on and on. The only ideology with which Islam shares similarities is Naziism. They're practically twins.
MasterJediTimm 1 month ago
@urheadonastick Am I upset? You should take some psychology courses, teenage masturbator. So what about obeying Jesus and killing your disobedient children?
JackSparrowDepp 2 months ago
@urheadonastick You are dumb school-drop. That's obvious from your comments here. Keep entertaining us and embarassing yourself. ;)
JackSparrowDepp 2 months ago
@urheadonastick this is coming from a person who believes in the Bible, where we find entire cities being slaughtered by the sword, on the orders of your God, talk about mass murder, oh but it was ok when your god ordered mass murder?
SamiZaatari 2 months ago
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alexanderalexandrou 2 months ago
@SamiZaatari
God destroys entire cities in the Qur'an as well: Thamud, 'Ad, Midian, the people of Noah, the people of Lot, the Forest-Dwellers, Rass, Tubba', etc. Also, Moses tells the Children of Israel to start slashing and killing one another for worshipping the calf in his absence with no condemnation or interference from God.
All I'm saying here is: be consistent and don't be a hypocrite.
Gunderson002 1 month ago 7
@SamiZaatari And is there any evidence the massacres happened as described in the Old Testament outside the bible - no. Is there any evidence of a Muslim Empire carved by the sword which annexed a Third of the Christian world (and still holds it), smashed Persia's beautiful pagan culture, scourged Hindu India and went as far as harassing Tang Dynasty China - all centuries before any Crusade or Western colonialism...yes, plenty. Pot calling the kettle black methinks!
Hereticalable 1 month ago
@Hereticalable You're arguing with a guy who looks like Groucho Marx and debates with the reasoning and understanding of a child. He has no knowledge of his own culture's history, let alone global history.
MasterJediTimm 1 month ago
@MasterJediTimm He never actually replies either...only to people who make silly cases. Anyone with serious comments are ignored because it's too easy to prove him wrong.
Hereticalable 1 month ago
@Hereticalable Yeah, his arguments are painfully easy to defeat; it makes me wonder if he's actually sane. And it drives me crazy that he doesn't respond good counter-arguments. I've noticed that about him in the past. It seems the real benefit to posting comments is to school the audience, not the producer. I suppose that's not such a bad deal.
MasterJediTimm 1 month ago
@SamiZaatari two wrongs don't make a right. Both wrong.
dkman2006 1 month ago
@urheadonastick even if the whole world converted to Christianity, it wouldn't make Christianity true. :)
SamiZaatari 2 months ago
@SamiZaatari Same goes for Islam too. Right, Sam?
alexanderalexandrou 2 months ago
@SamiZaatari And it wouldn't make Islam true if the whole world converted to it either.
Hereticalable 1 month ago
@urheadonastick - Last comment I promise lol - That incident is BS on two main bases. One is that it contradicts the doctrine of divine protection from making mistakes. Two is that the descriptions of the chain of transmission extant since that period are not complete and sound (sahih). Ibn Kathir points out in his commentary that the various isnads available to him by which the story was transmitted were almost all mursal, or WITHOUT a companion of Muhammad (pbuh) in their chain. - Take care
2411Mach 2 months ago
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2411Mach 2 months ago
@urheadonastick - They were executed because they were tried by their own (Jewish) law. They committed treason against the muslims. They promised peace and unity and also they promised to stand together against outside forces. They instead tried to help an outside force kill the mulsims. The jews were put on trial but the judge was neither jewish or muslim. The judged asked the jews...for your crime what is the jewish punishment and they stated that it was death...Death it is!!!
2411Mach 2 months ago
ONLY Threats to this World..
USA & Israel & Pentagon & EU
NATO, CIA, Mossad, Blackwater, BIS & School of Americas.
World Bank (WB, IMF & WTO created to make sure developed countries can always keep 3rd world countries poor & enslaved & can always steal everything they want from 3rd world countries, keep them oppressed & fully controlled & starving/dying in debt)
IMF (International Monetary Fund)
WTO (World Trade Organization)
War Industry, Oil Industry, Banks, Financial Casinos & Federal Reserve
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@2411Mach sure, you can believe in conspiracy theories . afterall, you believe in shariah. it takes a small mind to believe in something with not enough evidence to back it up. you DO believe in a schizophrenic, power-hungry man who said we heard the word of god, hahaha!!!
skarfaced 2 months ago
@skarfaced - Ppl dying due to alcohol is no conspiracy...the only consipiracy is why are the inner cities full of liquor stores, gun stores, gangs, prostitutes and drugs? Y are politicians so damn rich? Why are we so damn poor? Why do we occupy so much land abroad? Why does Israel own most media outlets? Why is evolution a theory? Why are all the Bible NT authors anonymous? Why do christians apostacize from catholism, when they own the Vatican lol? Maybe we don't use the same scope...Peace
2411Mach 2 months ago
Umm...so basically you're saying that "Islamophobes" oppose those whose values conflict with their own, and support those who have the same values? So just like every other rational person in the world then. That's why I don't like murderers and rapists; sorry to be such an "imperialist" about it. Sharia is primitive and oppressive: of course I am against those who would impose it.
novasigma 2 months ago
@novasigma and these people defend it by saying that shariah isn't "implemented" properly. if no country implements it properly, then clearly it's flawed. and stupid.
skarfaced 2 months ago
@novasigma - Oppose wateva you want, you're entitled to that right...You ain't gone experience sharia, but maybe your great grand kids will :) don't panic, without muslims the politicians win...And say: “The Truth has arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish.” We send down (stage by stage) in the Quran that which is a healing and a mercy to those who believe: to the unjust it causes nothing but loss after loss. (Surah Al Isra’ 17:81-82)...Peace
2411Mach 2 months ago
@2411Mach
Best of luck with that one: Sharia is by its very nature unjust and oppressive; it is therefore unacceptable to all those who value justice, freedom and equality.
novasigma 2 months ago
@skarfaced - First off, I said "your country"...to the person I was replying to, becuz he/she does not live in the U.S. so, Yes...YOUR COUNTRY. Now, as where i would prefer to live...America hands down. Because Islamic countries ALSO deal with corrupt governments and mostly because they do not implement sharia correctly, similar to the way the american constitution is being used as toilet paper right now. American People are great!!! but American govt. is a horse of a different color!!!!
2411Mach 2 months ago
@2411Mach implement shariah "correctly"? it sounds as if they do! they pretty much follow the ancient primitive holy text word for word. if no country implements it "correctly", then obviously it's a concept that cannot be put into practice. if no country implements it correctly, why keep trying to get it into law? it sounds like communism...looks good on paper, but.....but wait a minute. shariah doesn't even look good on paper. fuck
skarfaced 2 months ago
@skarfaced - I have no problem with thieves getting their hands chopped off lol...innocent ppl executed in error is not accepted!!! A reminder: "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in GOD hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (Quran 2::256)...Truth always wins...we all gone meet our maker, let's pray for sincerity and the removal of arrogance...peace
2411Mach 2 months ago
@skarfaced - If you followed the conversation more closely u would've known why I said "your country"...the person I was replying to, does not live in the U.S. so, Yes...YOUR COUNTRY. I also prefer to live in the U.S. because Islamic countries ALSO deal with corrupt governments and mostly because they do not implement sharia correctly, similar to the way the american constitution is being used as toilet paper. American People are great!!! but American govt. is a horse of a different color!!!!
2411Mach 2 months ago
@2411Mach i'd take prostitution and some deaths that come with drunk driving any day because it's a small consequence of the freedom we get. unless you want to live in a country that cuts of the hand of thieves.....i'll take my bike getting stolen once in a while because i have more freedom here.
skarfaced 2 months ago
@2411Mach try again i live in the netherlands dumbass
floriswazza 2 months ago
@floriswazza - and??? Did you even read my comment. And I will not continue talking with you if your tactic for debate is throwing insults. I never insulted you in my comment. PLEASE ANSWER THIS!!! : Who has a bigger vehicular manslaughter problem, due to drunk driving...USA or Saudi Arabia? YOU LOSE my friend...you asked for one thing and there you go!! If you wanna use another argument, I'm game!!! Love Peace and Hair grease...brah
2411Mach 2 months ago
@2411Mach i don't give a fuck about what your rambling about. i live in the netherlands. you called me a fascist. i've asked for one example of something your country is doing better in. you have failed to give me an example. so please just ONE example. i know you cant give it cuz there aint one lol FTW
floriswazza 2 months ago
@floriswazza -Whoa brougham chill out. First of all, I wrote 3 comments and the word "fascist" was not mentioned. Secondly, I live in the US, Arabia is not my country . You asked for one thing: Alcohol related issues other countrries have. Close to 100,000 ppl each year die in my country because of alcohol and that is a SUPER low number. I'm sure muslim countries don't have that problem..but I'm positive they have other problems...peace and love
2411Mach 2 months ago
@floriswazza - Whoa...chill out. First of all, look at the 3 comments I posted and you will not find the word "fascist" written. Secondly, I live in the US, Arabia is not my country. You asked for ONE thing and here it is: "ALCOHOL RELTATED DEATHS"!!!!!!!! Each year more than 100,000 ppl die in the US because of alcohol use. Islamic countries don't have that problem...but they have other problems that the US doesn't have. There you go ONE THING!!!! Peace and Love
2411Mach 2 months ago
@floriswazza
Hahaha, hoe jullie de atheïstische criminele marokkaantjes aanpakken. In andere landen worden ze tenminste hard aangepakt.
MysterieusM 2 months ago
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skarfaced 2 months ago
ISLAMIFICATION in Muslim countries like Egypt, Pakistan, Tunsia, Iran, Syria, Lybia is a response to EUROPIFICATION, you idiots!
It's called a BLOW BACK! google it.
time0is0a0myth 2 months ago
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skarfaced 2 months ago
In how many Western nations are Muslim armies stationed? In how many Muslim nations Western armies are stationed? In how many Western nations Muslim backed leaders or governments are ruling? Now, in how many Muslim nations Western backed leaders, families, and governments rule?
Yet, yet, yeeet, Muslims are a threat? MUSLAMICS are a threat? ISLAMIFICATION???
Europification of Muslims has been going on for the past 2 centuries. You can't even get a job if you dont know ENGLISH in Muslim states.
time0is0a0myth 2 months ago
@time0is0a0myth there might not be muslim armies stationed in western countries, but there are certainly countless of muslims who move to western countries and try to change our traditions. like the muslims who tried to get a special prayer room without christian symbols in a PRIVATE catholic university. like the muslims who tried to get a PUBLIC swimming pool to cater to their beliefs and segregate boys and girls. like the muslims who try to bring in sharia.
skarfaced 2 months ago
@skarfaced again, the muslims who threaten western and westernized muslim authors of any book that criticizes islam. this has to stop now. people are sick and tired of muslims and their need for special treatment, all because of their primitive belief system. everybody knows about muslims' difficulty with integrating into society. we all know they segregate themselves and want their own law. GO HOME. we don't want it here.
skarfaced 2 months ago
@skarfaced - Where do you want me to go...back to New Jersey? lol smh
2411Mach 2 months ago
@2411Mach back to the land of your people. appreciate it or move.
skarfaced 2 months ago
@skarfaced - NJ it is lol!!!! 99% of the ppl in this country are NOT from here...ONLY the native americans. Oh yeah, you're peeps killed them off and created a day called Thanksgiving to secretly remember the slaughter lol Listen...I'm 1,000% more American than you!!!! I stand for justice, truth, and equality!!! Ya came up with that after the civil rights movement...save the patriotic speech for July 4th...maybe I'll pay more attention to your bigotry then. Peace Love and hair grease...ONE
2411Mach 2 months ago
@2411Mach you're not just 1000% more american than me...you're 100000000000000% since i'm CANADIAN
skarfaced 2 months ago
@2411Mach i might be a so-called bigot, but at least i don't practice treason
skarfaced 2 months ago
A "moderate" Muslim is a conformist self-hating defeatist who think that by abandoning his beliefs and identity he will be accepted. Yet the evidence suggest, looking at prior conformists like those natives of America's, Africa, and Australia that caved into European imperialism, that it only gets worse with time. As muslims you can change your religion, but as brown, black, and asians you can't change your physical characteristics. if not religion, then it's your skin, shape of eye and nose.