Isaac AT

[ShadowStar889]

Isaac should've just gone screw you link and used megiddo and killed everybody.

[newworldfool]

What! no honor for Isaac?

[LuotkaSnih]

Holy macaroni!!! isaac is in smash!?

I MUST get it

[koerund]

there are alot of final smash possibilities for isaac, some of them are Odyssey, Djinn Storm (unleashes, idk, 10 random venus djinn?? there are 18 venus djinns in GS,with the possibility to heal urself, ground foes, cleave foes, and so on and on, any GS player should know the effects of Venus unleashes), Judgement, Meggido,Grand Gaia,... OR Judgement, but onley when u did Djinn Storm first, cuz , Yknow, u need Djins on standby to summon, like Samus first Fires her lazor, then gets her suit back

[Machdude]

NB- Ragnarok (Charge for Odyssey)

Forward B- Catch: Grab hold of a target and either drag yourself toward it or pull them toward you for combos. Can grab ledges.

Down B- Djinn Unleash: Call upon the power of a Djinn to attack your foe.

Up B- Growth: Plants appear to pull you up, can be used offensively to entangle foes.

Final Smash: Judgment: Unleashes the fury of earth to blow everyone sky high.

[unholydeath123]

@Machdude Nice move set! But I think his up B would be better if it were Catch if you really think about it. His side B would be Force, his neutral B would be Gaia(charge for Mother Gaia, maximum charge Grand Gaia) and i agree with your idea of Djinn Unleash for down B. I'd say he equips Flint(because it was his first and let's face it, the best one!" hit down B again to strike a foe that can cleave stone OR hold down B to summon. :D Too much? lol

[Machdude]

Force isn't unique to Earth Adepts. Growth is the only Earth based skill that can be used to ascend and descend an area while Catch serves to both lengthen his air time and give him a way to close in the distance where he is at his best. The reason why I did not choose an area attack spell for neutral B is because Isaac is a physical fighter and thus, Ragnarok suits him better.

[unholydeath123]

@Machdude Catch also isn't unique to Earth Adepts, it's a special "equip to learn" item which allows anyone to use. I still think side B should be Force and I think Catch would make more sense to be Isaac's grab animation. How do you imagine Ragnarok's game mechanics?

[eeecool2]

no man.. why does everyone think isaac should have ragnarok as final smash... i'd say Grand Gaia as field killer.. that'd be awsome... try to avoid the rocks :P

[crazyguitarist59]

psy groped

[Whippenberg]

in fact, having isaac as final smash oddesy is pretty easy: just put 2 spikes in the stage locking an area down and stunning everyone in it, then isaac just blows that GIANT GOD SWORD right through it doing 200% dmg to all inside, and 50% to all touching it( its uninteruptable)

[aang1476]

There's an Isaac in Super smash? COOL

[Machdude]

His moveset should be more akin to the standard Move. It really is his signature attack and it would be fun to see him use those hands creatively like using variations of the Hand like Pound, Lift and Catch. It would give that one attack more variety. What would be interesting would be to have his entire moveset be made of overworld Psynergy (since it is the only Psynergy you are gauranteed to have because of class change.)

[makaranata]

Issac's moves re-edit

A-sword swing

Smash A- Smash swing

Up A- Quake

Down A- Ground swing

B-Ragnarok

Smash B-Oddyssey

Up B- Gaia (makes him float)

Down B- Sol Blade

Final smash-Megiddo

[Megablast10]

Final smash= Sol blade xD

[ArkVel]

Final smash should be to SELECT a summon like in the game, lmao. Like the game goes to a battle screen and you can choose to use an attack or something. lmao.

[PleaseDieQuietly]

@ArkVel I actually really like that diea, because we see the gameplay screen change with a few other character's Smash Attacks, like Snake's for instance.

I hope they incoorporate GS into the next SSB game...

[song0flife]

Issac's moves

Smash=Flint

Down Smash=Change between Sword,Axe,and Mace

Over Smash=Ragnarok

Up Smash=Granate makes a barrier that issac jumps off of

Final Smash=Summon:Judgement

[GSSAGE7]

You'd need to think of a lot more stastics.

Like the A moves <.<

[cyborghobo]

that would be awesome

[reecerox2]

@song0flife Uhhh, no.

[deDarknessKen]

Just think what will happen if they input Doom Dragon AT xD

[jamescracksthesky]

reminds me of master hand haha

[KaboomKrusader]

They seriously should have had at least Isaac as a playable character. Maybe Saturos to represent the "villains" side of the game.

Can you even imagine some of the ways their Psynergy techniques might have been utilized in Brawl? Or what they could have had for Final Smashes? Hopefully if Golden Sun DS does well enough, a GS character will be in the NEXT Smash Bros.

[sunset261]

@KaboomKrusader isaac would have ragnarok as a final smash. He'd just summon a giant energy sword to come down and fuck shit up.

[DragynSpyre]

@KaboomKrusader Final Smash? Isaac? Prob be Meggido, or something.

[Whippenberg]

@KaboomKrusader final smash should b oddesy, and as charge attack ragnarok :)

[JacomeFelg]

@KaboomKrusader

isaac's final smash should be meggido and saturos' should be pyroclasm

[Archlvt]

They end up with different stats based on luck during levelups. Chill out lol.

[lightignakelloyd]

personally, I prefer Felix over Isaac, just because he´s more.... realistic...Isaac ´s too perfect as a main character to me, although he pwns everybody... and.. I don´t know, I always got more familiar with, Felix, because he had his defects, and Isaac on the other hand, had only good characteristics... however, Isaac is generally the best, better stats, better critical rate, and all, yet even then, i prefer felix, but Isaac still pwns

[leon8234]

They is EQUAL. Nabs

[RoleOfAQS]

Actually, statistically speaking, Felix is VERY SLIGHTLY better than Isaac... But he's still nothing more than a clone as far as most are concerned. He and Sheba really got gypped in terms of their classes.

[shavaldar]

Felix = Isaac except for 2 things:

1. Felix has more defensive stats

2. Isaac has more Speed and PP

[thunderjeps]

Isaac has slightly higher stats

[Sora998281]

Isaac`s way better than felix

[Murkrust]

hell noes. Isaac is better

[KurikazuTheWarrior]

Felix can pwn anyone on that game with his megiddo even issac (i dont care what know one says u all know its true>_>)

[RadioControlYourLife]

Remember this though... Issac was chosen by the wise one in the first Golden Sun and he IS the most balanced character in the two games!

[sepherioth5]

felix only lit the stars to bring his parents back he wasn't trying to fight isaac

[EXKenshin]

shoulda done ragnarok instead of move

[jonaspv]

Should have been playable instead! Issac playable and a Saturos assist trophy, sounds right!

[EXKenshin]

if they did that, either felix or garet woulda been the assist. but im hoping they add him and saturos as playable characters in the next SSB

[punksaske93]

ISAAC SHOULD BE IN THE OTHER

SMASH BROS!!!!!!

they are rly rly rly rumoring golden sun Wii

but idk hope they make it!!!!!

[EXKenshin]

its been confirmed that its gonna be for the DS

[leon8234]

Orly...proof pl0x

[GaaNaruItaDei]

Felixs parents were taken hostage play the game dumbass he lit the light houses to get his mommy and daddy backk and he had to light the last one o else prox and his parnteswouldve been killd

[kaidmaster1]

He owned you! Lol.

[odd833]

i think isaac and saturos should have been playable characters, saturos would be my favorite character

[cloudseaker]

how do u unlock issac

[EXKenshin]

play like 200 brawls

[happysister02]

the winner should have been Isaac, cause he was the one that did all the work. XD

[gsruler]

Nintendo said they only made AT's out of characters they thought were part of Nintendo's best games...

Isaac or Felix should have made it into the game as a playable character, but eh, oh well.

[cheesyfatarm]

yeah his final smash would be like Judgement or ragnorok or Megiddo

[thunderjeps]

MEGIDDO

[igotpwninmyboots]

odyssey!!!!

[thunderjeps]

Isaac - Megiddo

Felix - Odyssey

Saturos - Purgatory

[EXKenshin]

Isaac - Titan Blade

Felix - Megddo

Saturos - Pyroclasm/Inferno

[thunderjeps]

Isaac - Meggido

Felix - Oddysey

Saturos - Purgatory

[Murkrust]

Issac - Judgement or Titan Blade

Felix - Meggido or Oddysey

Saturos - eighter a fusion dragon attack or Purgatory

[lightignakelloyd]

or maybe Heat Flash for Saturos, and Ragnarok should be used by one of the main boys

[PokemonGirl]

He should've been a playable character, but I was happy enough when I heard he was going to be in Brawl at all. X3

[AdRe838]

if Isaac was an actual character you would've gotten Isaac pwned or Golden pwned lol

[Silverflam5]

His skill is MOVE, Oh My God the basic skill can kill person

[CHE168N]

silverflam you asshole its not a basic skill

[ASScool16]

ah amuri... good old times.. i was one of the first ppl on tht topic on GF..

[yupifoo]

nice

[1993GetMetalled]

i hope they'll make isaac as a playable character in the next smash bros

[Xertrikeoth]

When I first saw Isaac, I was expecting him to whip out a sol blade and use megiddo or something, but NO, they just decide to give him move. It's almost as lame as not allowing snake to have guns

[NeggiBozo]

snake has a rocket launcher~

and they chose move because it is the most recognisable move of the series, being the most used phyenergy in both games.

and i mean come on, look how powerfull just move is hahaha if they had goven him Ragnerock or meggido imaging how unfair that would have been for the other brawlers XP

[IgnitedMHK]

haha, true, it wouldve been better if it was force instead or catch...wait, thets just masterhand..-.-

[bluespartan117]

then again, look at knuckle joe...he's an instant K.O if used right so yeah...isaac has been underpwoered....

[Rynx214]

Gaah! Why didn't they use Ragnarok!? Golden Sun was stuffed with so many sweet attacks, and they chose "move," the first NON-COMBAT move you know at the beginning of the game!

Here's what should have happened: Isaac as a main character and Ivan as the support trophy, using Spark Plasma on the field

[StormZephyr]

Felix should be Isaac's "clone" in the next Smash Bros.

[commyknight]

they should put issac or felix in the game and take out lucas seeing how ness was in mother 2 (earthbound) and lucas was in mother 3 and mother 3 is not going to be released in the united states of america

[jimbobjimminy]

because the USA is really the only important country in the world...

*sigh*

Nintendo is japanese, the earthbound series is more popular over there. They wouldnt just change the game completely for the west.

[monkeypunk999]

I Think They Should Have Just Left Ness out and Put in Issac Since There was Lucas....

[IsaacFan3]

final smash should either be judgement or meggido (spelling?)

[LordAlathon]

Yeah, it would be hard to put in a good moveset for Isaac. His A attacks would probably be sword strikes and his B attacks would probably different pysenergy. I think normal B would be move (nerfed of course). down B would probably be Ragnorack. Up B would summon a Djinn which would act as a recovery move. Side B would be some sort of dash attack.

As for his final smash? He'd use a summon. Either Thor, Meteor, Boreos, or Judgement would work.

[Enkera]

*drools*

[xXAmorXx]

Chiillll. Megido, man. Megido. :3

[AntiFreeze202]

"Side B would be some sort of dash attack."

Flint.

[grodik]

final smash, would be judgment.

[littleryry2005]

b move side b odyssey down b spire up b mother gaia fs legend, megiddo, or vengeance. Although i guess Vengaence would be like Zelda's FS just 7 more but you could weaken them and all 7 hit would be a ohko

[darrenat1]

His FS would have to have been judgement though!

[sttrogdor93]

isaac pwns

[elitepotato]

Isaac should be a character!

I already have his moveset:

A moves - sword attacks

Smashes - stronger sword attacks

Air moves - aerial sword attacks

Standard B - critical hit

Side B - move psynergy

Down B - mother gaia

Up B - stone spire

Final Smash - Sol Blade

[Dharengo]

You mean Megiddo, right?

Although Ragnarok or Odyssey would work as well.

[elitepotato]

1) yes, that's what I mean.

2) I guess that's true.

[MangaMascot]

Mother Gaia? What About Grand Gaia??? And Stone Spire wouldn't work for up and B. He'd need something that worked as a 3rd jump, like Catch or Mad Growth.

[elitepotato]

If you think about it, grand gaia would knida be too cheap, seeing as how it's GIANT, and mother gaia would be a good amount for an attack.

[darknova7000]

yeah, practically everyone wanted him. He would've been perfect.

But his FS is definitely Judgement

[Hollowichigo13]

lol true

[elitepotato]

that would be a little cheap, this giant warrior with a lion arm coming out of the sky and blowing up the stage?!?! final smashes are supposed to be at least POSSIBLE to avoid.

[AngryxKitten]

they could do something like captain falcons and make it so that you have to get hit with something i order for the smash to actually start or they could make his final smash ragnarok or planet driver

[elitepotato]

yeah, but still meggido

[darrenat1]

hey Olimars is literally almost impossible to avoid the only time ive ever done it was becasue i was in toon links level and i got stuck under the boat so it by some miracle didnt hit me

[elitepotato]

It doesn't matter. Yoiu can fly up with it off the screen with pit. THERE! It's possible to avoid. What I said was AT LEAST POSSIBLE.

It's Possible to avoid, so It's fair.

[azorazan]

or else you just kick the smash ball out of him in time.

[thienan567]

So, Megiddo, then.

[Yddet1]

Super Smash Bros Massive Break though with new characters that were once trophies. well, a few that were once trophies...like the fire emblem seriesshould have a few mroe chars and goldensun should have some playable chars like felix and isaac for sure and maybe jenna or so

[darrenat1]

it would be sorta crappy if they put 2 venus adepts in so it would be like isaac and someone other than felix maybe Alex his up B could have been his warp his <B could have been like the forst pillar, down B could have been tundra or douse

[Tousacfade]

Golden sun is the best Game ever made!!

[lilblkboi]

y doesnt Nintendo start promoting Golden Sun again? and start making it a series like FireEmblem? Do they know how much money they'd be making if they did that?

[funalan]

No, the reason they didn't put Isaac in was because he'd be too fuggin good. Look at what his assist trophy can do...they pulled him out because he was just plain to awesome.

[Haha, J/K. But seriously, that would be the reason why.]

[Hollowichigo13]

SOOOO true

[lilblkboi]

cant argue wit dat can u lol

[Yddet1]

and Felix and eliwood and lyndis and that would make the game awesome

[ElGundamo]

The reason Isaac wasn't in it was because SSBB already has too many "sword" characters...Marth...Ike...Lin­k...Toon Link...Metaknight....yeah. I hope that IF they make another Super Smash Bros, they consider putting Isaac or Felix in it....or atleast a Golden Sun sequal or remake for Wii.

[ForgottenSOULx]

Or make an Golden Sun sequal for my gba. ;)

It would be nice putting felix or alex in it.

=D

[AngryxKitten]

but the reason they should have put him is because none of the other characters that use swords can use the elements. they could limit his sword attacks and focus on the energy as his main attacks instead. oh well at least he's even in the game :D

[Gamerhunter]

I've heard many rumours that the new golden sun game is actually going to be for the wii. I'm not suprised, the nintendo DS is becoming obsolete, and a golden sun title now isn't likely. Although using psynergy on a touch screen would be ownz0rz :P

Nice vid. Golden sun ftw.

[12Maris12]

DS is becoming obsolete??? Are you crazy? Wii and DS are leading the top of sellings.

OMFG we have waited 5 years to see Isaac apearing, and it's just and AT... :'(

Golden Sun for DS, and for Wii plz.

GS fucking rocks!

[teen0rz]

haha ds obsolete...yea right

[6969skater6969]

Lol not true, Goldensun 2 is 'the end' never said too be continued

[DarioPhantom]

But you do make a "Clear Save"

[dedlee2]

i wish they made a new golden sun goddamn ittt..

[argonassana]

they are making a new one :D golden sun 3 path of alex. after the end of part two alex is going to hunt down isaac for the golden sun power

[Olmado]

that it's a fake don't believe it u_U i wish that but its fakeFAKE men u_U

[glitchbusters]

actually isaac is an assist trophy duhhh

[NoAsking]

That was a poorly done Hoax. They even spelled Alex's name wrong on the 'Title' screen.

[raedenjay]

iris*

[ignasi09]

So that console are this game?

[Bluejerra]

or serac djinn btoh look cool

[Bluejerra]

Piers Final SMash will be diamond berg

[heromaster3]

a good final smash for the GS peoples would be call dulahan

[shankster30]

PWNED!

[kyrule1]

The characters from golden sun I would like used on SSBB is Issac,Felix,Garet,and Pier what do you Guy's think about that give me your answer and what would there final smash attack would Be?

[raedenjay]

i think the classic ragnarok would be a cool one. nice and sweet. i know it's not the most powerful. there's like catastrophe and then there's isis. but i'd stick with ragnarok nice and classy. plus it's not like nuking the whole planet

[danakinseventyseven]

dude, golden sun is THE best RPG nintendo has ever made. nintendo missed a big chance to make isaac a playable character... wario, ok, pit, ok, but King Dedede and Lucas? dude, you already got Meta Knight, kirby, and Ness, just give us Isaac and Felix!!! they didn't even release

I wanna be able to use Ragnarok on people,and use Meggido as a final smash.... :(

[LordDedede]

Hey! King Dedede is the bowser of kirby games. He pwns. Y'know which characters are really useless? ROB, Ice fucking climbers and lucas. I really would love to see isaac or felix in 3d, using Judgement as final smash. You know how awesome that would be

[slimcalvin15]

Hmmm all I can think of right now is "talk to the hand" XD

[qubbythetripeeater]

LOL! move! ahahhah o well i was hoping itd be titan blade :/ eh whatcha gunna do... i wonder if this means the might make a gs3 :D

[uncletreetrunk]

they were both able to use it :)

[FullMetalKisame]

Isaac's move set if he was in the game.

Up:quake

side:Dijin-used at random

down:quake spire

standing attack: sword/ragnarok combo

Finish: Catastrophy!!!!!

[gaara1295]

omg yeah catastrophy was the best summon in the whole game!!!

[gaara1295]

omg yeah catastrophy was the best summon in the whole game!!!

[toushihiro]

No, Iris = best summon in the game. It pretty much kills your enemy in one hit and fully heals your party and revives anyone dead.

[edtheranger]

my bro uses it on me all the time! she pwns! he also uses apocilypse so im going all the way back throught the first game and getting all the djinni and im gonna get both iris and apocilypse

and im gonna pwn back!

[WTFBrandonn]

Would have been cooler if Isaac used Judgement.

I think I would shit myself if that happend.

I would be so happy

[dropkickouch]

move would've been a cool final smash, just make it huge, kinda similar 2 mario's

[Boohahascaredyou]

Maybe next time... In Super Smash Bros. Arial Assualt! LTMS(Laugh To My Self) (I think arial is spelled wrong.

[gaara1295]

lol isn't that from star ocean? omg i just realized FAYT SHOULD BE IN THIS GAME!!! HIS FINAL SMASH WOULD BE DIMENSION DOOR

[holyken33]

if u think u can beat me add me on super smash bros brawl and lets see who wins friend code is 0473 7485 7707

[rexor0717]

Isaac would have been the best playable character. He would never even need to take out his sword. Psyenergy and Dijin! Thats all you need.

[xsilvermercuryx]

y couldn't they make Issac a playable character in Brawl?! he would be perfect....but maybe too strong

[Qbert123456]

It is a pity that isaac isn't a playable character...

[JazzyJames019]

this is a good game i like it alot but why the hell did nintendo make all the best characters assist trophies they should have replaced King DEDEDE with little mac that ness look a like with gray fox(MGS ninja) and make Isaac a new secret guy. nut its kool tho this is this 1 of my fav games of 08 rightnow

[crazybuizel]

So aweseome...

[EnigmaticMoogle]

Urrrrgh. They should have had his move be the Iris summon... or he shoulda summoned a Djinn.

[TheBerry15]

Isaac using move FTW!

[TheDemon14]

damn i never knew

[gam3szz]

Lmao Owned

[animefan809]

too bad i was hopein he would be playable, o well still an awsome game

[parrothead1992]

I bet people are getting tired of me asking this, but HOW DO YOU UNLOCK ISAAC'S ASSIST!?!

[haha169]

play 200 brawls

[horsegon1]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!???! thats easy!

[harestardai17]

are you serious?? GAH i wanna have him as an assist already!!

[LegendB9327]

Now I want to buy a Wii just to play as Isaac in this game. lol

[SenshuRysakami]

You don't play as him, he's an "Assistant Trpohy" Maybe if there's another SSB he might be playable.

[LegendB9327]

That sucks! You should be able to play as him. THEN I would buy the game. lol

[SenshuRysakami]

Buy it anyway, it's still awesome!

[pivotrsr]

what is a AT

[GeometricalCows]

Assist Trophy

It's pretty much a pokeball with nintendo characters instead.

[TheBerry15]

Psst.. Pokemon are owned by nintendo. lol

[gsruler]

assist trophy, pretty much a pokeball you can't throw

[gsruler]

if isaac of felix were playable:

Special: oddysey

Side Special: Ragnarok

Down Special: titan blade or meggido (respectivly)

Up Secial: lift or hover (not very imagitive at the moment)

Final Smash: Iris, Catastrophe, eclipse, any of the cooler summons

[FluffyWin]

ummm all the special attacks thing u have is a bit too powerful except lift ahahha or hover

[gsruler]

lol, maybe make em slightly not so powerful, and i guese teleport psyenergy might be better for up special

[FluffyWin]

final smash JUDGEMENT!!!!!!!!!!!! ahahaha

[Plazmabolt]

Naw, that would welt the wii in it's awesomeness.

My guess is if they did do it, it would be Odyssey or Meggido.

[XgbladerRyo]

erm...too powerful for everything except Hover. Heres my list

B=Move Psynergy

Up+B=Teleport Psynergy

Side+B=Odyessy (Not too much damage)

Down+B=Quake

[gsruler]

yeah that ones a little less overpowered.. mine might be too one sided....