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  • hmm.. FAIL

  • This is so funny! why are you Christains so blind and ignorant even of your own belief? I bet you didn't even listen let alone process what he had to say! He had a valid argument, but his words are wasted in you idiots.

  • Uh yes.. yes they are. Jesus and religion are Insanely independent from each other. Saying they aren't independent from one another is like saying that this computer that i'm on is the same thing as Steve Jobs.

    GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.

  • dough bag

  • Please prove me wrong or take this disgrace of a video down.

  • @violinist1129 Give this person an award!

  • 11th. time 6:40. YOU PUT THE MOST CLEAR PART OF THE POEM IN YOUR VIDEO AND SOMEHOW STILL DIDN"T UNDERSTAND IT? Please start to use that reason you love so very much. Person A claims that something is at face value false is true. Either, he's completely oblivious to the fact that it is obviously untrue or he's making a deeper statement about some aspect of the conflicting elements. He does this in poem. Poems are usually written to make deeper statements. Person A is probably making a statement.

  • 10th. He IS denying that Christianity is a religion by challenging the meaning of religion. timestamp 5:08 for reference

  • 9th issue. Try reading Carroll or Joyce by defining each word as it is in whatever arbitrarily chosen dictionary you like and see how far you get. The poem is an argument against the dictionary definition of religion. Since I know you are the type to argue that words can only ever mean exactly as they are defined: 'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

    'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master — that's all.'

  • 8th issue. By most branches of Christianity, Jesus spent three days in hell (complete separation from the essence of God) in suffering to pay for the sins of the world.

  • 7th issue. Oh, that's where you got it from. OK. Original sin refers to the inherited burden of sin inherent in humanity which began in the sins of Adam and Eve. It is absolved universally by the death and resurrection of Jesus and accepted individually by faith in God

  • 6th issue. The purpose of Jesus was not to save Adam and Eve from hell. 1 Timothy 1:15, "This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief." Where did you get that idea from?

  • 5th issue. HOW DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE DISPARATE USAGES OF THE WORD "RELIGION"? I mean that's the entire point of the poem. He's arguing that religion as seen as a compulsive rule-set should be distinguished from Jesus (and Christianity) as an acceptance of the gift of grace.

  • 4th issue. I doubt he was doing it "to pick up the ladies"

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  • 3rd issue. You're "selfish Jesus" idea rests on the fact that "Your God" and Jesus are equivalent. Therefore, only people who believed he was in fact God could possibly imagine that he was selfish and they wouldn't because they would almost certainly acknowledge that they received more from God than deserves their love. People who don't believe that Jesus is God would see it as a man directing love towards a deity who may or may not exist. They wouldn't consider him selfish either.

  • 2nd issue (not an actual fallacy) The point of miracles is that they are above the natural laws. That should be pretty obvious too.

  • 1st fallacy. When you do something religiously, you do it out of compulsion, and it is this compulsive sort of religion that he refers to in the video. I get that you don't understand subtlety, but it's pretty clear. Therefore, Jesus is not a subset of this sort of religion.

  • You are ignorant. Science goes only so for and than comes GOD. you probably don't even know What your sole purpose on earth is? Mock jesus the creator of the universe and you will taste the lake of hell... So advice? Repent. You might not get this because u are ignorant: Jesus loves u, but hates your sin.

  • You can indeed hate religion and love Jesus because religion is man made and what man made out of it, Jesus is a person and christianity now a days is not what Jesus and God wanted, they said not to eat pork or drink wine or pray to Jesus, yet christians still do.

  • @Mrwickedchild A definition of religion. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.

    Yes that applies to Jesus just as much as it applies to god.

  • @Mrwickedchild And I really do get what your trying to say you want to separate your self from the institutions that have grown around the christian faith which I can say is only a good thing. but dont try and say its not religion as I have stated below

    A definition of religion is. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.

    ARE YOU really going to argue that what you spouting isn't religion if so BULLSHIT.

  • please stop posting videos k thanx bye

  • idiot

  • If he existed, he is a man and therefore a religion based on him is secular from him. He was one individual REAL man. So your argument from 1:35-2:00 makes no sense. Also, I would rather waste my time unearth believing in something that may not be real rather than waste my time in front of my computer screen persuading people to not believe in anything.

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  • You totally ignored his message

  • So do not tell me that it is impossible to seperate the two... Is it impossible to seperate you from your moms house?

  • @HighFlyWOW Pleas look up the definition of religion, now if your trying to say that you want to separate Christianity from the institution that has grown around the religion then I would say you kind of have a point. But a believe in Jesus and that he was the son of god or god him self in one part of the trinity. Then that is religion

    Definition of Religion: The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.

  • I am sorry sir but I once believed in my Religion and my life was shit, I took a new lead and always throughout believing in Chrisitanity I believed in Jesus, but not him being the son of this so called God. Once I started realizing in my eyes Religion is made up of fake beliefs made over time I took a lead and just focused my beliefs on Jesus. My life has flipped upside down coming off of a drug addiction I used to have.

  • @HighFlyWOW The only thing is this guy if you listen he believes in son sin etc etc DID WATCH THE HOLE VIDEO

    Quote: I love the church I love the bible and yes I believe in sin. but if Jesus came to your chrich would they actually let him in. remember he was called a gluten and a drunk by religious men. BUT THE SON OF GOD NEVER SUPPORTS SELF RIGOROUSNESS!!!

    I HATE WHEN PEOPLE GO OFF AND JUST SPLURT THERE CRAP EVERYWHERE ABOUT SOMETHING THEY HAVEN'T EVEN LISTENED TO PROPERLY. I HATE HUMANITY.

  • With all respect Jesus is someone you have to believe in, in order to know him by heart.

  • Bball1989 was just giving his opinion. Let him be.

  • Sorry, but there is now documented proof by scientist and theologist that Jesus did exist, and was a prophet. But there is no proof he was the son of God.

  • the bible is not a religious text

  • @poopmeariv3r This is the last time I am going to write this out for someone religion is

    a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.

    b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

    2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.

    3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.

    ETC THE BIBLE IS A RELIGIOUS TEXT

  • K sat through this. You're right that religion and Jesus are synonymous. Yes, his chosen slogan sucks. Your theory of mind though, also sucks (but you demonstrate autistic characteristics so, not shocked). You're missing his points of religious facades (i.e. churches, self-righteous pretenses), that sin is inevitable and has already been forgiven, and most importantly, the freedom we now have from Jesus's death—it's not permission to freely sin; it's permission to live and learn without regret.

  • I bet hell is having to listen to this guy talk.

  • You sound weird and completely biased and narrow minded in your argument. You need to look at the question with from other points of view, and... Try to actually make sense. By the way, learn physics properly before you actually use it to substantiate a non-existent point.

  • @Arifer1995 LOL, maybe the logic annotations were not enough for you... I made complete sense. This isn't narrow minded in the slightest. Maybe you should learn some common sense reasoning, and how Logic works. I'm very well aware of what I am discussing, educate yourself.

  • @Arifer1995 Why don't you make a video where you reply him and tells him what is wrong with his logic? I would like to see someone do so instead of trolling.

  • @torasbjoern maybe he just amused you would have the inelegance to infer what was wrong with this guys "poem" and didn't think he needed to insult that intelligence by spelling it out to you. as I have said above bball1989 believes in god he loves the bible etc he has taken nothing from religion but yet call what he believe in something different while the definition is above.

    what bball1989 has is a simple superiority complex and bad grasp word definitions.

  • Hahaha like you know how to "pick up women" come on buddy your a joke no one takes your opinion seriously. Do yourself a favor walk out of your house, get a job, enjoy life and leave religous shit alone. Your never gonna win.

  • I think you would agree that in order to discuss something logically, you have to define your terms. The original video (which was a work of poetry, and ought to be judged as such) was implicitly defining religion as the legalistic pharisaic religion that many people practice, since that is what Jesus attacked. You defined it as a set of religious beliefs.

    As long as you are using different definitions, there is no point in arguing.

  • "fools despise wisdom" pretty much this

  • Great video dude. Christians gonna hate...cuz their brain is as small as jesus penis...1 inch.

  • @the1inAmillionSPERM I am so insulted by that darn comment of yours! By the way, I won several awards at my school!}:(

  • Dude your voice is almost as retarted as your Face which is almost as retarted as your thoughts which were almost as pathetic as ur life

  • YOU give YOURSELF the choice. YOU choose to have faith. YOU choose to believe in Jesus. YOU choose to do everything you do. Everyone makes their own path in life. Its personal choice. Jesus didn't come to you and tell you to fucking believe in him. You chose to do it yourself. So please, stop acting like Jesus, a man that died a long long time ago, makes your life decisions for you. - Random Non-Religious 19 year old kid.

  • One of the amazing things about Jesus is that He gives you a choice. You're free to choose. It just seems like such a huge risk to not receive Christ and follow Him. Took me 37 years to figure it out. Be blessed man.

  • And what's was talking about when he said that there 2 different things is that what people think is religion these days is wrong that when ppl say they love jesus to ppl and then never show it and just be fake allies saying is that if u say unloved God then stop acting fake and SHOW IT!

  • 3:00 hahaha what would u no about picking up ladies...retard and if u did research instead of speaking out of ur ass then u would no that there is records proving Jesus existed

  • bball1989 said in the description that he hates FALSE religion proving that, indeed A is a subset of B, however B isn't a subset of C and neither is A. This means that the basis of your argument is wrong.

    Im sorry if you don't like truth, but it's not called the good word for nothing

  • um, he did perform miracles. he had witnesses! you can't disprove that!

  • If u're mindset is as simplistic as that then it proofs that something cannot be created.

    Nothing can explain God.. That's why when people Apply logic with Faith, i simply laugh of loud ^_^

  • I also want to repeat this. Logically Speaking, when given a good thought. Science itself cannot comprehend "time" because "time" doesn't exist. The logic of scence inevitably says "something must have existed to create something". This is a flawed way of looking at things because it shows inability to comprehend things that aren't tangible to the five senses. "What is the cause of this? what is the cause of that?"

  • All I can think to do is pray for you man. You are lost.. He's knocking at your door. I hope you let Him in.

  • @kw6420 it must be nice to have a direct line to god haha so confident are you that your god is real all others are not and that you understand what he wants and why hes doing things... i think your lost

  • Dude...you talk a whole bunch and at the end of the day....say nothing!!

    you hear the poem, but don't really listen!

    You try to sound smart, but you really come accross as a rambling half-wit!

  • I think he's high

  • What a moron

  • dude you dont understand the video at all... did you even watch it all or just the first 10 seconds

  • hah

  • He's watching porn while making this video.

  • You don't understand poetry!!!! Listen to the video again!!! And try to actually understand it rather than to judge it.

  • Go back to ur porn sperm donater

  • By reading the comments I actually want the bible to be true so most of you guys can burn In hell

  • @568812 hey i wunt mind... its hot and theres people i know there and i can wear a condom

  • Jesus never claimed to be God. He said he was the son of God. Typical stupid ass atheist comment. Pick up the Bible and read it before you make a video bashing it. And no, a Wikipedia overview of it doesn't count as reading the Bible.

  • @MrJacksBBQ the bibe itself isnt a valid peice of evidence

  • Yes Jesus never existed... That's why there are records of his crucifixion

  • Shouldn't you be reading a science book or something?

  • Jesus is love. Religion is more or less the ways people worship Jesus and some people miss the meaning of Jesus bc they are doing "works" for their religion instead of just praising God

  • Dude u look like the kind of guy that luwers let tile kids into a van to rape them u ugly fag

  • When speaking of religion, we can't tell what's WRONG or not. Every one should belive in what they want.

    That's why I believe this guy's right

    And why I believe you're a douche

  • @nikopoulet very christian of you

  • You need god n you need a girlfriend dork....

  • you need a girl asap

  • You dont listen -_- if u don't understand don't respond to it. I don't blame u for judging what u don't understand.  Jesus doesn't want your religion he wants your relation. It is not about religion. Religion is wrong and it creates violence. If y had some sort of relationship with Jesus, this video would be a waste of ur time.

  • sigh*...

  • Go to church

  • You should really read The Case For Christ by Lee Strobel. And yes, God IS a selfish God. Who are you to challenge God?

  • Ur gay, and just mad his vid is popular!

  • So what ur saying when u say Jesus is

  • Dude... U r looking into it wayyyyyyy to much... We studied it at church... Yes Jesus is a religious concept... However religion is based on tradition... God wants to break tradition by all means... Ex- "religious" people of the old testament followed a sacrificial tradition... Eventually God changed that... "religious" people also followed God- his disciples but they backstabbed him... If they were more focused on Jesus and not what others thought then all of them would have claimed him at his

  • I believe in god and i get more girls then u would ever have in a lifetime buddy!!

  • First of all you have no right to talk about girls, Secondly, you have a real abnormal voice and might want to get that checked out, thirdly, before you have any right making fun of someone else and how they need to do something with their life you might want to first get out of your mommy's house, second get a girlfriend, third stop collecting government checks and get a job. Now, about your video (which has mainly opinions and has bad logical sense) you might want to reconsider how you said t

  • And another thing you're saying is that If someone is religious they can't get girls look at your self and the way you talk I bet the pope gets more pussy than you and he's a virgin

  • You look like a child melester and have no idea what your talking about dumb asshole

  • This guy is so stupid because they found evidence that Jesus is real and Jesus never said you have to LOVE him.

  • Oh wow this is stupid he has no idea what he's saying.

  • @level7athiest the bible isn't a guide to Christianity it's a guide to God

  • @hoppykins8 how do you know?

  • @Download2010FanVideo I wish I could thumbs your comment up but my phone isn't that awesome

  • You have no idea what you are talking about, aren't you?!

  • very good response!!!

  • If you don't believe there's any sufficient evidence of Jesus' existence, read The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel. In the book, he interviews intelligent people with many credentials about this topic.

  • I'm not religious but this annoyed me. Could be wrong, but the bible was written about, not by, Jesus. It wasn't he who created the religion, but a religion was built up around him by others.

    As a scientist myself, you're a disgrace to a field in which it is essential you have an open mind, are prepared to change your ideas and listen to those of others before coming to a conclusion based on evidence. I guarantee you haven't read the bible & so you are not qualified to comment.

  • PRICK.

  • It's funny because he doesn't know what he's talking about and he's just repeating the same thing just in different words xD.

  • Your a virgin.

  • @level7atheist humans haven't even been around half a million years. just stop typing

  • @OQWIKCombatArms If I didn't know anything about religion, I would still be a christian. And I never said that humans have been around for half a million years, human like anscestors have been though. I didn't say religion was propaganda, I said his video is, which it totaly is.

    By the way, learn to use punctuation correctly.

  • @level7atheist you don't know jack shit about religion its not propaganda its poetry, he was just expressing , your arguments are just plain out retarded. do you enjoy not believing in things?

  • The "I Hate Religion but Love Jesus" video is terribly misleading propaganda. You sir are very correct with what you say and christians need to stop thumbs downing this video. Christians need to listen instead of putting their fingers in their ears and saying "Blah, blah jesus and religion are separate."

  • I think its funny that u say " Its not a good way to pick up girls by the way" youve probably never had a date in your life!!! look at your room i mean really? you're not even gonna take the time to make your bed if your posting a video online where millions of people can watch, you look like you havent showered in weeks! and right when i heard your voice i wanted to kill myself!!

  • Screw u buddy! Ur probs living in ur moms house. Jesus WAS real. And still is in our hearts. The reason we don't get crucified, as we deserve it, it's because of jesus Christ. JESUS Is everything. I believe in Jesus. Dont care of u do or not, but he is real. He is in my heart, he IS my heart. So fuck you. Go die in a whole.

  • I think YOU, sir, don't know what religion is. Jesus came to save us...from what we deserve because of all the stupid/wrong things we do. He's the solution to that deserved punishment....He saved us from damnation and wants to hold us and love us as a father should. .....and quit saying 'Jesus' like that... :P

  • @B3ccaBlahg You do realize that everything you just said, is only found in the bible? The bible is the guide to christianity, and christianity is a religion, soooooooo.....

    Jesus and religion go hand in hand.

  • @level7atheist But yet there's a difference between grace and rules you have to follow or you DIE....soooooooooooooooooooooo­ooooo.....

  • @B3ccaBlahg ummm, what are you talking about? this has nothing to do with my comment.

  • Dude you suck

  • Pretentious Slag! ♥

  • You're gonna get trolled!!

  • You made no sense.

    I bet you still live with your mother as well. (:

    ahah

  • To respond to you, YES we all deserve hell. We all deserve the cross. We all deserve unimaginable pain. But do we receive it? No. That is because of CHRIST not religion. Religion is a man made aspect of Christ, made to minimize Him into our own perspective, rather than shows His true glory. Sorry, but you lose. I, instead of calling you awful things like those others, will simply say that I am going to pray for you. And that I hope you someday find your real worth in Christ. God is Love.

  • @TexasFreakshow You are a seriously brainwashed psycho if you seriously believe that humans deserve hell and unimaginable pain. All humans are guilty of is being... human. Don't try to throw your guilt speech on everyone else. You speak about love but that is complete BS when in the same paragraph you are telling people they are worthless shi* and serve to be tortured. You make me sick.

  • @mixmastamarkymark Humans are guilty of many awful things. It isn't a guilt speech. In fact, what I said should create joy. We DESERVE all that, but do not receive it, because God loves us dearly. No one serves to be tortured. I'm not even entirely sure where you got the idea that I said that. People aren't worthless. We're obviously worth alot. If I make you sick, then I apologize. That wasn't my intention. If I'm brainwashed, then how are you any less brainwashed than me?

  • @TexasFreakshow "To respond to you, YES all deserve hell." What makes you think that? Have you actually hung out and experienced a day with someone who doesn't believe what you believe in? There are amazing people in this world despite what your religion has made you believe.

  • QUICK HATERS

  • you clearly don't understand Christianity...

  • hey guise, im a Christian and this video offends me, so instead of saying something smart or trying to debunk this video with solid logic, im just gonna call him a fag/ugly/virgin/gonna burn in hell.

    AM I RITE CHRISTIANS?

  • youre a fag

  • you are so dumb and ugly... fugly!

  • You ugly

  • Yeah someone who died for YOUR sins is selfish

  • I guarentee every one who reads this comment that this guy has never been layed n lives with his mom.

    Bro seriously ur a trolling loser, get out of ur moms garage, get some pussy, go out to ur local book store buy a copy of the bible. read it from front to back n then come back with a better counter argument

  • funny how he talks about picking up ladies, i bet hes dying a virgin

  • so sad to see people worshiping creatION, in this case, science, over the CreaTOR.

  • @AlexaBlundell Then why don't you get off your computer and while your at it, don't visit the hospital since you don't appreciate what science has done for mankind.

  • Jesus claimed to be the Son of God, there is no gray area here. Either He is who He said He was or He was a liar.. He cannot be considered a "great moral teacher" because His claims of divinity would make Him a horrible liar. Jesus Christ IS the Son of God, whether you want to accept it or not. He was beaten, died on the cross, rose again after being DEAD for three days, and ascended to Heaven. All you need to do is accept His payment for your sins, turn from them, and put your trust in Him.

  • @miavia187 If there was a Jesus, I'm sure his claims of divinity were added to the bible to make him seem like more than a normal human being.

  • This nerd is out of control. No proof Jesus existed? Really?? There are plenty, Wikipedia being just one quick search on the subject (validity of Wikipedia as a solid source aside, millions of people refer to it on a daily basis). Starting with the supposition that the Jesus Christ of the Bible did exist, there are only two logical conclusions (because this random video creator is all about "logic"): either Jesus was who He said He was or He was a liar, there is no inbetween.

  • The sad thing is this guy is probably going to Hell

    Please pray for this man and all the other atheists that they may find Jesus in their heart

  • @thedba68 No one is going to hell. Why don't you start reading some books and opening your mind. One day you will look back and realize how foolish and stupid you once were.

  • If someone died for me, I'd love them. That's the difference between Christianity and other religions in the bible Jesus doesn't give you a formula for salvation and isn't a forcefully god. he was talking about false religion, people hiding behind the cross. I blr jefe that science proves that we were created by someone divine! I'll pray for you.

  • @tennislover1011 Your prayers won't do anything. I hate to inform you but no spirit will touch us because all prayer does is make you feel warm inside. Furthermore, where do you draw the distinction between religion and false religion? Is false religion the belief in the "wrong" god? Or perhaps it is a different sect of Christianity? And no where in science does it even SUGGEST the possibility of a creator. For your sake, I hope you seek truth and become skeptical your beliefs some time.

  • @MrDoubleB13 Really, because scientists who haven't built a career off atheism are coming out in the droves accepting the fact that we we're created by someone or something. The only people who are comfortable with this theory are picture boy atheists, you know who that is. My friend of 27 years has been a long time skeptic, scientist and Atheist has recently converted because of his own research and has found that the conditions for life are too perfect, highly unlikely by random chance

  • @PWDforlifebrah I have to ask, is your 27 year old friend a bit slow in the head?

    The conditions of earth are what they are and we adapted to them through hundreds of millions of years of evolution.

    I have no idea which scientists you are talking bout. Approximately %70 of scientists are atheists. You dont need to be and atheist if you are a scientist, by the way. although most are, the man who came up with the big bang theory was a catholic.

  • @PWDforlifebrah That is crazy. Someone thinks they find evidence for a creator - then all of a sudden convert to Christianity? If there is a creator why do you think it is anything related to the bible? The bible god is a crazed lunatic who went around destroying nations and killing homosexuals.

  • @mixmastamarkymark You have never even lifted a bible, if that is what you think. He never killed a single homosexual, you Ignoramus.I know many amazing non-believers. But all people do bad things. No matter how good. No one is perfect. You are an idiot who talks to get attention. Get a life, a job, a family, some friends. And get of youtube, you unwanted troll.

  • @TexasFreakshow off*

  • @tennislover1011 If there is no formula for being Christian, why should anybody believe then?

  • Did he just say conceptual like KHAN-CEPTUL, all I need to stop watching this video.

  • Such ignorance. You should learn a little more before you start dumping on other peoples beliefs!

  • Homeboy gave advice about picking up "ladies". You manage to talk for a long ass time without saying anything at all.

  • this guy trying so hard to sound so smart but doesn't really know what to talk about.... you need to listen first you heard what he was saying but you didn't listen......think before you speak

  • Sorry, I don't think you can compare works of literature (the Bible, bball's poem) to a math problem. Yes, bball does misuse the traditional meaning of the word religion. However, in modern culture, "religion" has a connotation synonymous to self-righteousness. Get some social skills and try again. Try looking at TheAmazingAtheist's vid, it is a much better, less whiny/nerdy version of your argument. Try to answer a sleek poem like that with something that grabs people's attention.

  • 949-735-0465. blow it up

  • Jesus loves you and I hope Jesus will open your eyes to reality, I will pray for you!

    God bless you

  • Omg what's wrong with that guy he looks weird

  • Lol what a goon move out of your moms house!

  • and he said "false religion" in the description, in context he is referring to fake religious people, and fundamentally following Jesus 100% would be "true religion" or "true Christianity"

    also the Bible never states that Jesus did all that to save Adam and Eve, but humanity as a whole

  • um, Jesus didn't say "love me for no reason" and he mentioned his love for us more than our love for him

  • Lol, you just proved him right!

  • Fag

  • YOU actually committed a fallacy called Begging the Question, good sir. And your rambling argument is quite hard to follow with no citations. Is that sweat? Are you nervous?

  • 1. Your jealous

    2. Pedophile

    3.You live with your mom

    4. Pedophile x2

    5.What the F**k do you know about pickinq up qirls.?

  • @ejt2393 I dont understand why this is so hard to comprehend. Jesus, in all those verses you quoted, talks about a 3rd person called 'The Father'. Hasn't it occurred to you that Jesus is PROBABLY talking about another person called God? You still haven't given me a verse where Jesus Himself says that HE.is.God. Thats right...there is no such verse. Follow the words of Christ and understand what hes trying to say. Try not to give it your own meanings.

  • I bet this guy jurks off the child porn.