@MarcoBocoure Actually not, Breslau is the German name for Wrocław. Just like New York, Poles are saying Nowy York. Or Den Haag in the Netherlands, Poles call it Haga. So Wrocław or Breslau is now Polish, ok. But everyone knows there is German architecture so it looks like Germany, but now Polish. Just like buildings in Ukraine and Belarus. Many of them are Polish because of the occupation between ±1500-1800
@MarcoBocoure :Die Straßen und Plätze sollten zweisprachig ausgeschildert werden.-Deutsch+Polnisch. Vor die Häuser der Vertriebenen bzw.Umgebrachten Deutschen könnte man ,,Stolpersteine" (Tafeln) verlegen.
you lost the war (two wars). Because of you few millions of people have died. Half of europe has been destroyed. Wrocław belongs to Poland. Get your ugly girls and twisted men and GET OVER IT!
diese stadt wird immer deutsch sein und die schuld am großen verlust der ostgebiete die 1/3 des Deutschen Landes ausmachten waren natürlich erstmal die sowjets die polnischen millizen und auch die deutsche regierung der nachkriegszeit denn dies waren keine politiker dies waren hampelmänner die alles wiederholten was sie von den alten besatzermächten vorgesagt bekommen haben
aber das größte unding ist es das es 1990 wiedervereinigung hieß obwohl es keine ganze war dankt der deutschen Regierung
Die Deutsche Wiedervereinigung ist bisher teuer geworden. Teurer als men denkt! Noch immer fließt Geld nach der ehemaligen DDR! Also hat es überhaupt kein Sinn Wroclaw zurück zu germanisieren! Ausserdem kann man die heutigen Bewohner Breslaus nicht vertreiben! Das wäre mal ein Unding! Zudem hat Breslau sich entwickelt zu einer Europäischen Prachtstadt wie vor dem Krieg nach der Zerstörung, verursacht durch den Nazismus und Stalinismus!
@Metti1306 deutschland hat eine stark sinkende einwohnerzahl. wieso sollte deutschland noch mehr land brauchen, wenn im jetzigen deutschland schon immer weniger menschen leben?
@Metti1306 You're forgetting there was an event in 1939 called World War 2 and it was started by you guys. You, who considered yourselves civilised behaved like a horde of barbaric savages in my country. No other country in Europe had experienced as brutal a German occupation as Poland. We rebuild Wroclaw, it lay in ruins in 1945. We lost half of our country behind our present Eastern border too. All things considered, you got off lightly.
haha, sauber, schöne cafes,... das findet man auch in Deutschland, vorallem in der ehemaligen DDR. Dresden, Weimar, Halle ad Saale, Magdeburg, Erfurt, Jena,... sind dreckig???? München, Hamburg sind auch Beispiele von Großstädte die schön sind!!! Einige Städte sehen schon hässlich aus wie Düsseldorf zB, aber nicht viele!!!
Hahaha "Breslau ist kein Polen! Brelaus wird immer deutsch zu sein!!!". Too many beauty people to name it "deutsch". Stay in your turkish country with your poisonous vegetables bro :)
Hoffmann von Fallersleben … best known for writing "Das Lied der Deutschen",
In 1823 he was appointed custodian of the university library at Breslau, a post which he held till 1838. He was also made extraordinary professor of the German language and literature at that university in 1830, and ordinary professor in 1835. Hoffmann was deprived of his chair in 1842 in consequence of his Unpolitische Lieder (1840–1841, "Unpolitical Songs"), which gave much offence to the authorities in Prussia.
The Iron Cross was a military decoration of the Kingdom of Prussia, and later of Germany, which was established by King Friedrich Wilhelm III of Prussia and first awarded on 10 March 1813 in Breslau, during the Napoleonic Wars.
The proclamation An Mein Volk ("To my People") was issued by Frederick William III of Prussia on 17 March 1813 in Breslau. Addressed to his subjects, Preußen und Deutsche ("Prussians and Germans" — the former term embracing several nationalities), it appealed for their support in the struggle against Napoleon.
Weil diese Stad hat sehr lange geschichte und war mal polnisch ,mal deutsch . So gesehen darf man sagen Bresla-Wroclaw ist ein schöne Stadt , mit wirklich interessante Geschichte .
I suggest you "show" my "hidden" "spam" posts to get the full story. When I type directly, as ususal, into the YT text box it sometimes does not register a letter or two. When I erase and post again it shows the new post as a "spam."
@flyabroom What I said -- and will say again -- is that Germany is an economic success and THAT has to be accepted. They are lightyears ahead in understanding their trading need and potential and they act on where the market is headed (as in energy provisions) DECADES in advance while the US relies on Quarter to Quarter stock market guidance -- and are surprised to find themselves broke. For sure Germany will be a power in Europe -- but that does NOT mean "control". Its too small for that.
@historatia Like I said, Globalization is not the same as Global Trade. GLOBAL TRADE has existed since the wheel was invented and it is a good thing for Poland, Germany, Europe, the globe. Glbalization may be good for China but tell that to the Americans. Similarly, many polls show that even German citizens liked it more when they had their Deutsche Mark and trade agreements, rather than this integration. I'm talking Germans think like this, probably even more than Poles!
@flyabroom You know that's correct. All I can tell you is that if Canada were working with a common North American currency we would be TOAST because of US economic mismanagement. Professionally I considered the Euro one HUGE gamble and experiment when it started, and actually advises great caution, allowing individual national currencies limited flex. It is to Poland advantage the it was working with Zloty rather than the Euro, BUT if governments are RESPONSIBLE, the REVERSE is true.
@bv141a Well "bv" I see you've calmed down a bit. I think we'll just let the reader of my comments make their own determinations eh? (I know de-ter-min-a-tion is a five syllable word, but you can look it up.)
@historatia Globalization is not the same as Global Trade though. GLOBAL TRADE has existed since the wheel invention, and no one in their right mind has any problem with it.
May I remind all Germans that Breslau, Danzig and other cities were in ruins when they became Polish (again) after 1945. Much of what you can see there is a post-war reconstruction done by Polish engineers with a great respect for their German past. By contrast check Kaliningrad (former Konigsberg) in today's Russia- all traces of it having once been German deliberately wiped out, or former Polish city of Lwow (now modern Ukraine) - slow destruction of the city through negligence.
@PeterPoserWobber Well, I don't realy live in Wroclaw, so I wouldn't know al the details, anyway it's supposed to be United Europe now and everybody can live wherever they please, just don't forget we hadn't asked for the changing of our borders in 1945 and we'd lost more than half of our country in the east in the war we hadn't started. Regards
@marek800m The problem is that Polish conduct WAS a major reason that the war started. Learn your Polish history a little better, with Beck and Ritz-Smigly running the country and breaking the agreement Pilsudski made with the Germans. Danzig was supposed to be a "free city" It wasn't. It was 98% German and Poland should have agreed to the 'self-determination' of its people who desperately wanted to go back to Germany. Polish conduct helped lose that half of 'you country' if it eve was yours!
"Danzig was supposed to be a "free city" It wasn't. It was 98% German and Poland should have agreed to the 'self-determination' of its people who desperately wanted to go back to Germany"
fuckin lying son of a whore. i really cannot find any words that could describe the way i feel about you - lying, filthy pathetic scumbag. but i won't kill you, nor torture you the gestapo way - i am not a german philosopher.
Kaszuby are lucky to be part of Poland, because if they were in germany-you'd probably kill them all. therefore there would be no kaszub language no more. you are like a disease.in Poland we cultivate their traditions, noone wants to get rid of them, making some sort of "final solution" (rings a bell?) and for hatred towards germans - i am no hater but when i read for example all this BULLSHIT youre writing...i just want to find first german i see and beat the bejesus out of him.
@YouKnowWhatYouAre Nice comedy YouKnow... except that the Germans never tried to oppress the Kasubian language. Poland cultivated their traditions? Poland signed the UN Declaration of Human Rights DECADES AGO and then REFUSED to abide by them until the EU forces the issue of Minority Rights in Poland. Your mindset of wanting to beat the "bejesus" out of some poor German for what a Canadian rights is really interesting. Mmmhh "bejesus" ... eastern Canadian?
@YouKnowWhatYouAre Kasubians are NOT "LUCKY" to be part of Poland. They have a MINORITY RIGHT to be part of Poland. They are not there but the grant of Poland. It is their RIGHT! Remember that.. you POLISH NAZI.
and i have a very sad conclusion. you are just like your daddy, who were killing innocent people because they werent germans.and i think that you would do EXACTLY THESAME on any occasion.you say things to back up your sick theories-germans:gods,Poles:rats wchich needs to be eradicated - just like your daddy and his nazi friends back in a day. you would do exactly thesame things,YOU GERMANS LEARNED NOTHING. pathetic pangerman assholes forcing other nation to be like them. fuck you.
and dont you dare to call ANY Pole nazi, you lying wanker!!! NAZIS WERE GERMANS, DONT TRY TO RUN FROM RESPONSIBILITY BY CALLIING MONGOL HORDES INVADING AND DESTROYING MY COUNTRY NAZIS! THEY WERE GERMANS, GERMANS=NAZIS, AND NO OTHER NATION!!!
@YouKnowWhatYouAre I will call ANYONE whose beliefs exhibit the principles of thinking that underlay Hitler's National Socialist party a NAZI ... because that is common word usage. Reading your posts I can conclude that not only are you a POLISH NAZI, but you have the makings of a good SS Concentrations Camp Torturer and Thug.. to grab first victim and "beat the bejesus out of him". (They're your threatening words.. but I really think you're nothing more than a dumb coward.)
@YouKnowWhatYouAre So what makes "YouKnowWhatYouAre" a POLISH NAZI? Well he's threatened the "first German he sees" with violence. Now, if THAT isn't the most directly RACIST comment made on YT, then perhaps you can search for, and find me a better one. Definitely "YouKnowWhatYouAre" is a POLISH NAZI. I guess that leads me to the conclusion that SOME POLES LEARNED NOTHING.
i had to learn something from WHAT??? which lesson did i miss - the one your lousy mongol nation did in 1939? what did i miss exactly?? if you have problems understanding one simple sentence - shut the fuck up and turn off the computer.
and furthermore here is the thing: Kaszuby in Poland have a great chance NOT to turn islamic in this century. and your fuckin children will pray to allah soon. better start building gas chambers boys, you have great experience in that.
@historatia Well hiSSto! As usual, first you provoke people, then you call them names. To call Poles Nazis is RACIST. And hiSSto, that's what you are a RACIST, despite your denials and turning facts around. And even if you are not German, as per your own logic, your views about Poles are typically Nazi views. So, until you drastically modify your views on Poles and Poland, you will be called Nazi hiSSto.
@flyabroom Well Fly, somehow I'm not surprised that you would actually object to me calling somebody a POLISH NAZI even though he threatened violence to a perfectly innocent German on ethnic grounds, and then made RACIST inflammatory remarks about Islamic people as undesirables. (Read the comments from YouKnowWhat below.) You could actually DEFEND such a POLISH NAZI. I am SO disappointed in you.
@historatia "low grade coloquial word usage that you are actually an eastern Canadian" (should be “colloquial”). So, now you've developed a stereotypical generalization about Eastern Canadians as a group too. I've read your other posts about "dim Americans," but here you even turn on the people that gave you shelter from these nasty "upriver people" in Poland. Where does it stop hiSSto? You just can't stop finding new enemies and subjects to insult. You need help!
@flyabroom Fly! Don't you EVER learn? Have you read the violent NAZI RACIST (POLISH) commentary that his person writes? (Thank you for correcting my misspelled word) Have you bothered to correct the spelling of the word "bejesus". Indeed it is stereotypical. My brother in law uses it constantly! When I write "dim Americans" I do so as a response to one stereotypical "dim" American...Fly! Don't you EVER learn? Have you read the violent NAZI RACIST (POLISH) commentary that his person writes? ...
@flyabroom Silence assumes CONSENT Fly, so I take it that you support violent behaviour against the nearest German? And such verbal abuse? Well, that's why I tagged you as being a POLISH NAZI Fly. Any Pole who could fail to criticize the violent outburst and threats of YouKnowWhat is CLEARLY a POLISH NAZI. I didn't turn on Canadians. In this country YouKnowWhat's behaviour constitutes a RACE CRIME. (even as expressed on the internet Fly!
@flyabroom It stops at those who conduct themselves responsibly in recognition of the human rights. Anyone that conducts himself in a manner that destroys the human rights of others (you should read the UN Declaration) is an "enemy" to me Fly, and that includes POLISH NAZIS. You're right. I need help in building a bulwark of defence against NAZI behaviour. Fortunately I am not alone.
@historatia You know what I meant. You will need psychiatric help of one kind or another to keep you from blowing your faulty fuses. The other help, against the Poles, that you so seek here, you will find in the form of new hordes of neo-Nazis. It looks like there are more and more of them on YT, where you keep recruiting all the time. We are used to having such misfits roaming our countryside for centuries. Have fun leading them.
@flyabroom I have no interest in leading any group in any endeavour that isn't consistent with HUMAN RIGHTS, Fly, and that includes ALL PEOPLE. I refuse to work activeiy on any project where the objective is to undermine the human rights of any ethnic group, especially by the taint of propaganda that seeks to portray them as not deserving of human rights or justice, and falsifies THEIR truth. ... For example... in this post
@flyabroom ... Your wrote "We are used to having such misfits roaming our countryside for centuries".. is CODE for the Germans and Russians that you HATE (as your series of posts on so many vids makes very clear, and presumes that places like Prussia, Pomerania and Silesia were POLISH countryside always. You HATE and FABRICATE at the same time. That is POLISH LIES, which DENY HUMAN RIGHTS by POLISH NAZIS. Breslau was German. Today it is European under Polish provincial administration.
@historatia For a scholar and an expert in two languages, like yourself, you should know that "want to" is not the same as "will" or "have." In case you need further explanation, a simple example would be: I "want to" have a private airplane but I WILL NOT because I can only fly a broom.
@flyabroom You really should read "Preserve Remembrance - Conserve authentic Places - Assume Responsibility" by the International Auschwitz Committee. "... history is too often used to sow discord between human beings, groups and peoples. We object to the comparative assignment of blame, to the creation of hierarchies in the experiences of suffering, of competition between victims and to the confusion of historical phases. ..." YOU FLY and your gang of POLISH NAZIS engage in this practise.
@historatia I told you hiSSto that you are not stupid, but you are stubbornly ill intentioned. As history clearly shows, intelligence can be used in many different ways, for good or for bad. What makes your type of character so unpleasant to me is that you very well know, as you just said, that "history is too often used to sow discord between human beings, groups and peoples." Yet, it is PRECISELY what you are doing on these YT pages, and elsewhere.
@historatia Below is another one of your typical ILL INTENTIONED manipulations: "Breslau was German. Today it is European under Polish provincial administration." Previously you claimed that because Germany is such an "economic success" we "better get used to" it controlling the European affairs. You also suggested I add 2+2. So, according to your "wisdom" Germany is in control of Europe of which Poland is a "province." Thus, Wroclaw is German? What about the Poles in your "new Europe", hiSSto?
1. NOWHERE have I said that Germany is in control of Europe.
2. NOWHERE did I say that because Germany is such an "economic success" Poles would have to "get used to it" [Germany] controlling the European affairs.
You haver either READ IN meanings that are NOT there, or are deliberately manipulating my words. The simple fact is that seen from an effective "sorvereignty" perspective, Germany is ALSO A PROVINCE of EUROPE, and it is decidedly NOT in control!....
@historatia Here is typical inconsistency (manipulation - as you are not stupid) in your reasoning. You wrote that Lisbon Treaty is not the same as the failed constitution that would have made Europe one state but a set of laws governing the interaction between sovereign states. This is not exact quote but the essence of one of your previous statements. How does it square with your new claim of the Polish "province of Europe" (Germany?) musing? How do you expect the Poles to react to this?
@flyabroom I EXPECT the Poles to react EXACTLY AS YOU HAVE, namely to think it over in the context of a world in which "absolute sovereignty" is not even available (except at horrific cost) to the LARGEST of the so-call Nations, namely the China, the US, or Russia. Interdependencies are GLOBAL. Interdepenedices WITHIN Europe are INTENSE. (Germany can't feed itself without HUGE imports.) The de facto position is that ALL EUROPEAN states are "provinces" of a European TREATY structure. ...
@flyabroom I would expect that the salesmen of Solaris buses recognize that in an instant, as do the women hairdressers and grocery stores along the border in side Poland, and all the Germans who buy you busses and shop in Poland (lots of people). The POINT is that the de facto situation is NOT irreversible because the provinces have "opt-out" rights without reservation!!! With a 'constitution' that would not exist except by agreement of others. ...
@historatia "is that it has ALWAYS BEEN a POLISH CITY." Don't recall ever saying that. Wroclaw has changed hands, but before WW2 it was in German hands. Silesia was in Polish hands longer than German hands, and I posted the time-line of the region's rulers. That I do recall.
@flyabroom That "opt-out" right of the dd facto "provinces" is somewhat dangerous to others who are internally adjusting their economies and societies to the patterns of Europe as a whole. So ANY OPT_OUT after the fact will do signigicant DAMAGE to others. (Imaging Poland leaving the IATA International Air Traffic Association, which would COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN AIR TRAVEL INTO AND OUT OF POLAND at the OPTION of POLAND ALONE. Get the point? ...
@historatia "NOWHERE have I said that Germany is in control of Europe." You may be right. This statement may have come from someone else, but YOUR response was: "you better accept it (or get used to it) because Germany is an economical success." Again, this is not exact but the deep dark essence in the cup of your response.
@flyabroom NONE of this is manipulative in the least, but SELF-EVIDENT to most people. Poland would have to drill for its own oil, grow its own bananas, produce all its own electronics, make all its own clothing, etc etc to be -- almost autarchic in order to avoid giving over its sovereignty in a manner which allows for "opting out". If you want to go to "bilateral" trade -- outside of the EU and WTO (world trade organization) you should sharpen your spears for the return to the stone age!
Globalization is a hotly debated topic in America and the rest of the world. Undoubtedly it is good for some big corporations, but there is a persistent and growing doubt whether it is any good even for the larger nations and/or their people. Let me assure you, in this debate, I haven't seen any spears passing by my head lately..
@flyabroom I don't much care whether its a hotly debated topic or not. One thing my experience has taught me. Most people thing "Governments run economies". Its nonsense. The true facts are "Economics runs government" where people have any freedom at all, because the market system is one giant voting machine that operates 24/7 year round. Look what increases in world trade has done for Korea, China, India, Japan, Indonesia, etc. Its NOT going away anytime soon.
@flyabroom ... If Poland steps awary from its its growing economic ties with Germany and all those hairdressers have to again dig potatoes in the rain, you'll hear about it. Poland will return to the stone age quickly because even mother Russia won't bend over to pick you up. Those are harsh realities made easy to take if one understands the mutual benefit for the people of Poland even if the mythologists don't like it. Globalization is NOT good for NAZI types because it robs them of power.
@historatia Look, im my neck of the woods silence means silence. We don't use "colloquial" dictionaries to translate simple to understand words. Also, in this same neck of the woods, we are used to commenting on what we choose to comment on, and no one will change that! On a side, I've been telling you for a long time now that your own racist insults provoke reactions that you get.
@flyabroom Oh good. So in your "neck of the woods" (to use anothe location specific colloquial expression)... What?? You confuse me FLY is you use a colloquial term and want me NOT to understand it? "Bejesus" that's nasty of you!! Does your part of the woods a "neck"? Is that like "my piece of turf?" Yes? Well then, I can go on and address you in your "neck of the woods".. Is that a Polish "neck" or a neck in Polish "woods"... hhmm.... Well, it tells me where you're REALLY from doesn't it!
@flyabroom So your telling me that "I've been telling you for a long time now that your own racist insults provoke reactions that you get.". Yes I KNOW, I KNOW. Except that what I state is NEVER a "racial insult". I don't EVER stoop to that. But I CERTAINLY provoke people to BLURT out and expound their HATREDS based on race/religion/ethnicity (hatred of Germans, Islamics, Jews, Russians ..) which is clearly more than abundant from that ethnic group that I refer to as POLISH NAZIS! Why? ..
1. to allow the "responding" RACIAL/ETHNIC HATREDS to speak for themselves to readers of these posts, where a minority of Poles (the POLISH NAZI types) sit in GLASS HOUSES and THROW STONES, and don't even have the DECENCY to ADMIT that the GLASS HOUSES they are sitting in are of GERMAN CONSTRUCTION. Breslau is a city of German construction, (as was the early "town law" of virtually all towns settled by people who call themselves Poles.) Do you agree Fly?
2. To encourage this very same group of HATRED-FILLED "POLISH NAZI's" to "singe themselves" in the fires of their own flame throwers, and PERHAPS understand that the people who built up life in beautiful Breslau pre-1945, and their progeny since, also suffered an INJUSTICE which was no more "deserved" than what happened to the Poles. CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY cannot be "offset" as vengeance. And finally ...,
3. I think it important that the TRUTH of WW2 is NOT just "Germans are evil..." or even "German NAZIS are evil... " but that the POLISH leadership in the Interbellum (between the wars), of Pilsudski, Dmowsky, Beck, and so much of that tyrannical oligarchy held VERY SIMILAR "NAZI" views and also helped greatly to ignite the war, and bring on the horrible events that followed. So ...
@flyabroom ... I promote the view, (and believe) that NONE of the HOLDERS OF POWER, (legitimate as well as clearly illegitimate) of the "states" of the French, British, Poles, Russians, Americans, and non-state groups had "clean hands". At the same time, the vast majority of ALL of those "peoples" DID have clean hands, so HATREDS AGAINST any "PEOPLE" is NOT WARRANTED. Now go back to your "neck" -- whatever that is -- and think about it.
@historatia Only a few posts below is an example of your divisive manipulations: "Breslau is a city of German construction." We know that many buildings in pre-war Wroclaw WERE built by Germans. What you fail to acknowledge at the same time is that Wroclaw was converted into a military fortress to be held at ALL COST by the German High Command. This DESTROYED the pre-war "German buildings." Today's Polish Wroclaw is a Polish copy and restoration of the pre-war city.
@flyabroom I fully realize that Polish labour rebuilt was was in effect the original German design -- as has been done in Marienburg as well. If you had written at the end "restoration of the pre-war German city" we would not have an iota of disagreement. But your PREVIOUS (and probably still present) POSITION is that it has ALWAYS BEEN a POLISH CITY because its on RECOVERED POLISH LAND. -- which I regard as an absolute FICTION.
oh oh oh oh i am a nazi because i will knock out a german like you:) what would your daddy do? was YOUR DADDY A NAZI? answer this question son of a whore.
@YouKnowWhatYouAre No, because you threatened a perfectly innocent person with violence because of his ethnic affiliation . THAT'S what makes you POLISH NAZI, even though I know from your low grade coloquial word usage that you are actually an eastern Canadian.
@YouKnowWhatYouAre just to let you know my polish freind most of the white people in euroupe are decsendents of germanic tribes so good luck punching us all out, for reference the Francs , angles, saxons, suavie goths, longbardie, have descendants in every euroupean country,even your beloved poland are just another mix of germanic and slavic peoples,
@KeepHimAtBayhit a raw nerve there didnt i.... you and idiots like you are the reason that ill allways side with my germanic bretheren, oh by the way YOU FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!
you didnt answer my question: WAS YOUR DADDY A NAZI??? i said that bullshit you say makes me wanna kick some german ass, so i am a polish nazi. i said that your children will be islamic and i am a racist. so i wonder who was your daddy? did you hate him? who was your mommy? was she a nazi racist pig?
you are very concerned about "innocent people" and hatred towards them, yet you still try to excuse violence and things YOUR father and his friends did in 1939:)funny pervert you are:)
@PeterPoserWobber Well, I don't realy live in Wroclaw, so I wouldn't know al the details, anyway it's supposed to be United Europe now and everybody can live wherever they please, just don't forget we hadn't asked for the changing of our borders in 1945 and we'd lost more than half of our country in the east in the war we hadn't started. Regards
@marek800m Having NEVER BEEN polish before, your use of the term "(again)" about Breslau, Danzig and other cities, marks you as a LIAR, or a communist propaganda stooge. You choose!
@historatia Never Polish? You like Wiki, so here is Wiki quote: "During Wrocław's early history, its control changed hands between Bohemia (until 992, then 1038-1054), the Kingdom of Poland (992-1038 and 1054–1202), and, after the fragmentation of the Kingdom of Poland, the Polish Piasts-ruled duchy of Silesia." But I guess an anti-Polish hate propaganda does not take FACTS into account.
@historatia And, of course, after WW2, Germans left nothing but RUINS in place of Wroclaw. These ruins were painstakingly rebuilt by the Poles to the city's beautiful present condition. Poles that settled there and rebuilt Wroclaw were usually those expelled from the Polish cities of Wilno and Lwow, taken by the Soviets during the 1939 German-Soviet invasion. Any claims today to Wroclaw by the Germans are a pathetic JOKE.
yes my dear boy!!! tahts why we'll never get back this 80% of our cultural goods, our infrastructure, or milions of people that you - great nation of germans - killed.
who is the ultimate thief? learn your history. germans are perfect in thievery. parszywa kurwo.
Litwo ojczyzno moja, ty jestes jak zdrovie, ile cie mozna kochac ten tylko cie dowie, kto cie stracil. WWII tragedy is orchestrated by Stalin and his Lover Hitler. Why Stalin escaped Nurnberg process is just miracle. Now, when Russians left, let's drink together and argue who should claim capital of East Prussia-Konigsberg. As small child born in Goldap 1950 I could hear voices of German children and women murdered after city liberation. I wish, I knew German so I could tell you their story now.
@MrKresowiak - Of course, false accusations can be very painful, but the only thing we can do is to present our own arguments. Of course, in case of any accusations referring to an individual, one can sue a person spraying them, but in case of history it is the matter of research, interpretation rather than simple yes-no answers. If you forbid accusations you introduce censorship of political views and historical research.
Of course, not allowing bad language is also a form of censorship, technically speaking, but it does not repress the freedom of political views or any research. One is allowed to express his/her dislike towards particular views or even individuals, but one can do it without abusive language.
@MrKresowiak - I think we have also to stop rude behaviour towards fellow YT-ers. We should stop any promotion of hate, no matter if agaist the whole groups or individuals.
@MrKresowiak - My impression is that someone has already did so and contributed to closing some accounts of very aggressive YT-ers. But they re-appear in new incarnations...
@OlenkaWagner debatuj sobie z gloryfikatorem nazizmu gdzie indziej. YT jest otwarte dla wszystkich i pseudonaukowe dyskusje z nazistą mogą siać zamęt wśród młodzieży.
@MrKresowiak - Nie zgadzam się z nim co do spojrzenia na przyczyny wojny, ale to nie znaczy, ze nie możemy normalnie rozmawiać. Ja przedstawiam swoje argumenty, on swoje. Jeśli go obrażasz, sugerujesz, ze nie masz argumentów.
@OlenkaWagner ja tą gnidę znam prawdopodobnie lepiej. Rozmowa z kimś takim go automatycznie dowartościowuje. Ponadto nazywanie jego nazistowskich wynurzeń argumentami jest sprzeczne z sensem pojęcia argument. Warto o tym pamiętać.
@MrKresowiak - nie wiem, nie będę sie licytować kto zna go lepiej. Nazista to narodowy socjalista, ktoś kto uznaje supremację rasy 'aryjskiej', a Iustitia takich pogladow nie podziela.
@OlenkaWagner - IP twierdzi, że Polska jest współwinna wybuchu wojny (nie zgadzam się z tym), ale to jeszcze nie czyni go nazistą. Uważa, że nie tylko Niemcy (czy państwa Osi) popełniały zbrodnie, ale alianci też (i to nie tylko ZSRS) - to są akurat fakty, dyskutować można o skali zjawiska i o przyczynach i skutkach, ale co do faktów, że zbrodnie popełniali wszyscy trzeba się zgodzić.
@OlenkaWagner ten śmieć sieje propagandę antypolską na YT. Widziałem setki jego komentarzy negujących nazistowską winę oraz podważających powojenne granice Europy. Wypowiada się on w tematach mi znanych więc mam pogląd na jego stan wiedzy i intencje. Nie zamierzam dyskutować na jego temat.
Definycja nazisty jest o wiele szersza od przytoczonej. Przepraszam lecz nie mam ochoty na podobne spory.
@AZsaturn wiesz , ja znam Holendrów pamiętających o Polakach z Market Garden. Uwierz mi że mają niewiele wspólnego z faszystowską gnidą zwaną lustitiapax. To jest zwykły prymitywny nazistowski kundel.
In architectural meaning it's totally german traditional stadt.
andrelviv 2 weeks ago
WROCLAW BLEIBT POLNISCH
UND DIE TÜRKEN FICKEN EURE FRAUEN/TÖCHTER
IST DOCH BEIDES KLAR
norbertnashorn87 1 month ago
@norbertnashorn87 Gratulor.
philmo1 2 weeks ago
@tla123456
schnautze
norbertnashorn87 1 month ago
@MarcoBocoure Actually not, Breslau is the German name for Wrocław. Just like New York, Poles are saying Nowy York. Or Den Haag in the Netherlands, Poles call it Haga. So Wrocław or Breslau is now Polish, ok. But everyone knows there is German architecture so it looks like Germany, but now Polish. Just like buildings in Ukraine and Belarus. Many of them are Polish because of the occupation between ±1500-1800
JNadobnik 1 month ago
ich bin Pole und ich finde Breslau deutsch, aber Leopolis polnisch
700charlott 1 month ago
Danke für den Film ! - Erinnerung an die deutsche Geschichte.Im Geschichtsunterricht der DDR wurde alles totgeschwiegen.
carinhall1 3 months ago
OLD POLISH CITY WROCLAW! Nnot breslau! german cunts!
MarcoBocoure 3 months ago
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@MarcoBocoure :Die Straßen und Plätze sollten zweisprachig ausgeschildert werden.-Deutsch+Polnisch. Vor die Häuser der Vertriebenen bzw.Umgebrachten Deutschen könnte man ,,Stolpersteine" (Tafeln) verlegen.
carinhall1 3 months ago
Es usted un buen comentarista con una voz bonita
fandycanetas 3 months ago
you lost the war (two wars). Because of you few millions of people have died. Half of europe has been destroyed. Wrocław belongs to Poland. Get your ugly girls and twisted men and GET OVER IT!
phoks71 4 months ago
"A nation that voluntarily surrenders territory is a nation in decay." (Bismark.)
1990 Treaty?
LeamingtonSteve 4 months ago
@tla123456 What?learn english.U little nazi cur:)
MrThorn88 4 months ago
DAS IST POLSKI WROCŁAW NEIN BRESLAU !!!
FilipFSW 5 months ago
diese stadt wird immer deutsch sein und die schuld am großen verlust der ostgebiete die 1/3 des Deutschen Landes ausmachten waren natürlich erstmal die sowjets die polnischen millizen und auch die deutsche regierung der nachkriegszeit denn dies waren keine politiker dies waren hampelmänner die alles wiederholten was sie von den alten besatzermächten vorgesagt bekommen haben
aber das größte unding ist es das es 1990 wiedervereinigung hieß obwohl es keine ganze war dankt der deutschen Regierung
Metti1306 6 months ago
@Metti1306
Die Deutsche Wiedervereinigung ist bisher teuer geworden. Teurer als men denkt! Noch immer fließt Geld nach der ehemaligen DDR! Also hat es überhaupt kein Sinn Wroclaw zurück zu germanisieren! Ausserdem kann man die heutigen Bewohner Breslaus nicht vertreiben! Das wäre mal ein Unding! Zudem hat Breslau sich entwickelt zu einer Europäischen Prachtstadt wie vor dem Krieg nach der Zerstörung, verursacht durch den Nazismus und Stalinismus!
i7l4 6 months ago
@i7l4 U r right.Germans stole Wrocław once and it wont happen again.
MrThorn88 5 months ago
@MrThorn88
Im sorry, this is not correct what you have written!
Do you understand the contence in german?
i7l4 5 months ago
@i7l4 I dont know german but I know what u wrote.What I wrote is little sarcasm to what u wrote.
MrThorn88 5 months ago
@MrThorn88
OK :D
i7l4 5 months ago
@i7l4 At the end Wrocław is Polish-German Europen city:) (but more Polish;-))
MrThorn88 5 months ago
@i7l4
ja du hast recht.
schlesien ist polnisch
auch wenn einige tag und nacht desweigen weinen
bis auf einige häuserruinen aus der vorkriegszeit ist gar nix deutsch
norbertnashorn87 1 month ago
@Metti1306 deutschland hat eine stark sinkende einwohnerzahl. wieso sollte deutschland noch mehr land brauchen, wenn im jetzigen deutschland schon immer weniger menschen leben?
Maturion 5 months ago
@Metti1306 You're forgetting there was an event in 1939 called World War 2 and it was started by you guys. You, who considered yourselves civilised behaved like a horde of barbaric savages in my country. No other country in Europe had experienced as brutal a German occupation as Poland. We rebuild Wroclaw, it lay in ruins in 1945. We lost half of our country behind our present Eastern border too. All things considered, you got off lightly.
marek800m 5 months ago 2
@Metti1306
was willst du???
die stadt ist seit den 50ern nicht mehr deutsch
allgemein gibt es schlesien kaum noch deutsche
pass lieber auf, dass deine brd nicht islamiesiert wird
breslau bleibt polnisch
ist doch klar
norbertnashorn87 1 month ago
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@Metti1306
was willst du???
die stadt ist seit den 50ern nicht mehr deutsch
allgemein gibt es schlesien kaum noch deutsche
pass lieber auf, dass deine brd nicht islamiesiert wird
breslau bleibt polnisch
ist doch klar
norbertnashorn87 1 month ago
Sehr schön da will ich auch mal hin.
Karlmueller1971 7 months ago
tja, kennt ihr deutschen noch solche städte?
sauber, schöne cafes, schöne frauen
aber in deutschland sieht man nur hässliche türken-cafes, döner, callshops, billig-puffs und über die menschen schreib ich mal nix
ich17071987 7 months ago
@ich17071987
haha, sauber, schöne cafes,... das findet man auch in Deutschland, vorallem in der ehemaligen DDR. Dresden, Weimar, Halle ad Saale, Magdeburg, Erfurt, Jena,... sind dreckig???? München, Hamburg sind auch Beispiele von Großstädte die schön sind!!! Einige Städte sehen schon hässlich aus wie Düsseldorf zB, aber nicht viele!!!
i7l4 6 months ago
@i7l4
düsseldorf ist doch sauber
dann geh mal nachts über die reeperbahn
das ist schön! ironie
ich17071987 6 months ago
@i7l4
moment
die mitteldeutschen städte gefallen mir auch
kein problem
ich war in dresden, weimar und leipzig
aber warst du jemals in köln, hamburg, frankfurt???
norbertnashorn87 1 month ago
@ich17071987 in was für einem drecksloch lebst du bitteschön?
Maturion 5 months ago
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Wow, check this out!!!
sites.google.com/site/myprayerforyourintention
7etsg0 8 months ago
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Hahaha "Breslau ist kein Polen! Brelaus wird immer deutsch zu sein!!!". Too many beauty people to name it "deutsch". Stay in your turkish country with your poisonous vegetables bro :)
blacksid26 8 months ago
Hoffmann von Fallersleben … best known for writing "Das Lied der Deutschen",
In 1823 he was appointed custodian of the university library at Breslau, a post which he held till 1838. He was also made extraordinary professor of the German language and literature at that university in 1830, and ordinary professor in 1835. Hoffmann was deprived of his chair in 1842 in consequence of his Unpolitische Lieder (1840–1841, "Unpolitical Songs"), which gave much offence to the authorities in Prussia.
Geierberzn 10 months ago
The Iron Cross was a military decoration of the Kingdom of Prussia, and later of Germany, which was established by King Friedrich Wilhelm III of Prussia and first awarded on 10 March 1813 in Breslau, during the Napoleonic Wars.
Geierberzn 10 months ago
The proclamation An Mein Volk ("To my People") was issued by Frederick William III of Prussia on 17 March 1813 in Breslau. Addressed to his subjects, Preußen und Deutsche ("Prussians and Germans" — the former term embracing several nationalities), it appealed for their support in the struggle against Napoleon.
Geierberzn 10 months ago
Some information from Wikipedia:
In 1910 Breslau had already over 500.000 inhabitants and a census stated
95.71 % German as mother tongue
2.95 % Polish
0.68 % Czech
0.67 % German and Polish
Geierberzn 10 months ago
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@Geierberzn and you became nazi!!!!! and you killed millions and you were panished!!!!
now fuck off!
MarcoBocoure 7 months ago
der typ redet als hätte er nen stock im arsch
malte237 11 months ago
Breslau ist kein Polen! Brelaus wird immer deutsch zu sein!!!
Francesko263 1 year ago
@Francesko263 ahh.... Poland my dear neighbour, Poland.
Viele GröBe aus Polen.
Skansener 1 year ago
@Skansener But it was a german-polish city until 1945.
Francesko263 1 year ago
@Francesko263
Lehrne erst geschichte , dann darfst du auch mal was schreiben .
TheClaudius108 1 year ago
@TheClaudius108 wieso sagst du das? Breslau war deutsch vor 1945!
Francesko263 1 year ago
@Francesko263
Weil diese Stad hat sehr lange geschichte und war mal polnisch ,mal deutsch . So gesehen darf man sagen Bresla-Wroclaw ist ein schöne Stadt , mit wirklich interessante Geschichte .
Uhrsprunglich hieß der Stadt Vratislavia.
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@Francesko263
war
norbertnashorn87 1 month ago
@Francesko263 another nazi? shall we find you and report?
MarcoBocoure 11 months ago
@Francesko263 - Breslau ist jetzt so deutsch wie Köln römisch. Das Rad der Geschichte kann niemand zurückdrehen.
Prozent37 10 months ago
@Prozent37 Breslau war ein teil von Preussen.
Francesko263 10 months ago
@Francesko263
war
norbertnashorn87 1 month ago
@Prozent37 Köln war immer schon deutsch. "Römisch ist keine Volkszugehörigkeit". In Köln siedelten aber eben germanische Stämme.
PeterPoserWobber 10 months ago
@Prozent37 Wie man am "Rad der Geschichte" drehen kann, hat Polen doch selbst gezeigt. Und jetzt Angst, dass dieses Spiel auch zwei spielen können...
Stratege1981 8 months ago
@Stratege1981 - im Grunde nicht Polen sondern Russland war beim "Drehen" - es hätte alles so bleiben sollen wie es war aber es ist anders passiert.
Prozent37 8 months ago
@Francesko263
toll
was ist denn noch deutsch in der region, außer ein paar häuserruinen?
das ist polen
und in berlin haben türken, araber, polen, russen das sagen
wach auf
norbertnashorn87 1 month ago
Mitlerweile gibt es sogar einen "Zwergen-Atlas", in dem alle Breslauer Zwerge, deren Bedeutung und ihr Standort aufgeführt sind.
Einer wäscht an der Brücke zur Sandinsel in der Oder seine Wäsche.
watisnhierlos2 1 year ago
I suggest you "show" my "hidden" "spam" posts to get the full story. When I type directly, as ususal, into the YT text box it sometimes does not register a letter or two. When I erase and post again it shows the new post as a "spam."
flyabroom 1 year ago
@flyabroom What I said -- and will say again -- is that Germany is an economic success and THAT has to be accepted. They are lightyears ahead in understanding their trading need and potential and they act on where the market is headed (as in energy provisions) DECADES in advance while the US relies on Quarter to Quarter stock market guidance -- and are surprised to find themselves broke. For sure Germany will be a power in Europe -- but that does NOT mean "control". Its too small for that.
historatia 1 year ago
@historatia Like I said, Globalization is not the same as Global Trade. GLOBAL TRADE has existed since the wheel was invented and it is a good thing for Poland, Germany, Europe, the globe. Glbalization may be good for China but tell that to the Americans. Similarly, many polls show that even German citizens liked it more when they had their Deutsche Mark and trade agreements, rather than this integration. I'm talking Germans think like this, probably even more than Poles!
flyabroom 1 year ago
@flyabroom You know that's correct. All I can tell you is that if Canada were working with a common North American currency we would be TOAST because of US economic mismanagement. Professionally I considered the Euro one HUGE gamble and experiment when it started, and actually advises great caution, allowing individual national currencies limited flex. It is to Poland advantage the it was working with Zloty rather than the Euro, BUT if governments are RESPONSIBLE, the REVERSE is true.
historatia 1 year ago
@historatia Any spears made in Germany these days?
flyabroom 1 year ago
@flyabroom Well Fly... I suppose perhaps your posts are mostly "spam" doncha think?:^)
historatia 1 year ago
historata lies,black heart,thick skull,nazi parents
bv141a 1 year ago
@bv141a Well "bv" I see you've calmed down a bit. I think we'll just let the reader of my comments make their own determinations eh? (I know de-ter-min-a-tion is a five syllable word, but you can look it up.)
historatia 1 year ago
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flyabroom 1 year ago
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@historatia Globalization is not the same as Global Trade though. GLOBAL TRADE has existed since the wheel invention, and no one in their right mind has any problem with it.
flyabroom 1 year ago
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flyabroom 1 year ago
May I remind all Germans that Breslau, Danzig and other cities were in ruins when they became Polish (again) after 1945. Much of what you can see there is a post-war reconstruction done by Polish engineers with a great respect for their German past. By contrast check Kaliningrad (former Konigsberg) in today's Russia- all traces of it having once been German deliberately wiped out, or former Polish city of Lwow (now modern Ukraine) - slow destruction of the city through negligence.
marek800m 1 year ago
@marek800m Thats a lie. For a example the facade of german Fachwerk/ Preussische Mauer/Prussian Wall buildings were often covered with a new layer.
Much of the things that remember of German past, were destroyed or left the nature.
But I am pleased about the new approach to the German heritage.
PeterPoserWobber 1 year ago
@PeterPoserWobber Well, I don't realy live in Wroclaw, so I wouldn't know al the details, anyway it's supposed to be United Europe now and everybody can live wherever they please, just don't forget we hadn't asked for the changing of our borders in 1945 and we'd lost more than half of our country in the east in the war we hadn't started. Regards
marek800m 1 year ago
@marek800m The problem is that Polish conduct WAS a major reason that the war started. Learn your Polish history a little better, with Beck and Ritz-Smigly running the country and breaking the agreement Pilsudski made with the Germans. Danzig was supposed to be a "free city" It wasn't. It was 98% German and Poland should have agreed to the 'self-determination' of its people who desperately wanted to go back to Germany. Polish conduct helped lose that half of 'you country' if it eve was yours!
historatia 1 year ago
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"Danzig was supposed to be a "free city" It wasn't. It was 98% German and Poland should have agreed to the 'self-determination' of its people who desperately wanted to go back to Germany"
fuckin lying son of a whore. i really cannot find any words that could describe the way i feel about you - lying, filthy pathetic scumbag. but i won't kill you, nor torture you the gestapo way - i am not a german philosopher.
YouKnowWhatYouAre 1 year ago
@historatia
Kaszuby are lucky to be part of Poland, because if they were in germany-you'd probably kill them all. therefore there would be no kaszub language no more. you are like a disease.in Poland we cultivate their traditions, noone wants to get rid of them, making some sort of "final solution" (rings a bell?) and for hatred towards germans - i am no hater but when i read for example all this BULLSHIT youre writing...i just want to find first german i see and beat the bejesus out of him.
YouKnowWhatYouAre 1 year ago
@YouKnowWhatYouAre Nice comedy YouKnow... except that the Germans never tried to oppress the Kasubian language. Poland cultivated their traditions? Poland signed the UN Declaration of Human Rights DECADES AGO and then REFUSED to abide by them until the EU forces the issue of Minority Rights in Poland. Your mindset of wanting to beat the "bejesus" out of some poor German for what a Canadian rights is really interesting. Mmmhh "bejesus" ... eastern Canadian?
historatia 1 year ago
@YouKnowWhatYouAre Kasubians are NOT "LUCKY" to be part of Poland. They have a MINORITY RIGHT to be part of Poland. They are not there but the grant of Poland. It is their RIGHT! Remember that.. you POLISH NAZI.
historatia 1 year ago
@historatia
and i have a very sad conclusion. you are just like your daddy, who were killing innocent people because they werent germans.and i think that you would do EXACTLY THESAME on any occasion.you say things to back up your sick theories-germans:gods,Poles:rats wchich needs to be eradicated - just like your daddy and his nazi friends back in a day. you would do exactly thesame things,YOU GERMANS LEARNED NOTHING. pathetic pangerman assholes forcing other nation to be like them. fuck you.
YouKnowWhatYouAre 1 year ago
@YouKnowWhatYouAre Well, to set you straight, I'm not German, and I thank you for your wonderfully phrased expression of prejudicial ignorance.
historatia 1 year ago
@historatia
and dont you dare to call ANY Pole nazi, you lying wanker!!! NAZIS WERE GERMANS, DONT TRY TO RUN FROM RESPONSIBILITY BY CALLIING MONGOL HORDES INVADING AND DESTROYING MY COUNTRY NAZIS! THEY WERE GERMANS, GERMANS=NAZIS, AND NO OTHER NATION!!!
YouKnowWhatYouAre 1 year ago
@YouKnowWhatYouAre I will call ANYONE whose beliefs exhibit the principles of thinking that underlay Hitler's National Socialist party a NAZI ... because that is common word usage. Reading your posts I can conclude that not only are you a POLISH NAZI, but you have the makings of a good SS Concentrations Camp Torturer and Thug.. to grab first victim and "beat the bejesus out of him". (They're your threatening words.. but I really think you're nothing more than a dumb coward.)
historatia 1 year ago
@YouKnowWhatYouAre So what makes "YouKnowWhatYouAre" a POLISH NAZI? Well he's threatened the "first German he sees" with violence. Now, if THAT isn't the most directly RACIST comment made on YT, then perhaps you can search for, and find me a better one. Definitely "YouKnowWhatYouAre" is a POLISH NAZI. I guess that leads me to the conclusion that SOME POLES LEARNED NOTHING.
historatia 1 year ago
@historatia
i had to learn something from WHAT??? which lesson did i miss - the one your lousy mongol nation did in 1939? what did i miss exactly?? if you have problems understanding one simple sentence - shut the fuck up and turn off the computer.
and furthermore here is the thing: Kaszuby in Poland have a great chance NOT to turn islamic in this century. and your fuckin children will pray to allah soon. better start building gas chambers boys, you have great experience in that.
YouKnowWhatYouAre 1 year ago
@YouKnowWhatYouAre There you are again, more RACISM .. this time aimed at islamic people. Well, then a POLISH NAZI your are indeed.
historatia 1 year ago
@historatia Well hiSSto! As usual, first you provoke people, then you call them names. To call Poles Nazis is RACIST. And hiSSto, that's what you are a RACIST, despite your denials and turning facts around. And even if you are not German, as per your own logic, your views about Poles are typically Nazi views. So, until you drastically modify your views on Poles and Poland, you will be called Nazi hiSSto.
flyabroom 1 year ago
@flyabroom Well Fly, somehow I'm not surprised that you would actually object to me calling somebody a POLISH NAZI even though he threatened violence to a perfectly innocent German on ethnic grounds, and then made RACIST inflammatory remarks about Islamic people as undesirables. (Read the comments from YouKnowWhat below.) You could actually DEFEND such a POLISH NAZI. I am SO disappointed in you.
historatia 1 year ago
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flyabroom 1 year ago
@historatia "low grade coloquial word usage that you are actually an eastern Canadian" (should be “colloquial”). So, now you've developed a stereotypical generalization about Eastern Canadians as a group too. I've read your other posts about "dim Americans," but here you even turn on the people that gave you shelter from these nasty "upriver people" in Poland. Where does it stop hiSSto? You just can't stop finding new enemies and subjects to insult. You need help!
flyabroom 1 year ago
@flyabroom Fly! Don't you EVER learn? Have you read the violent NAZI RACIST (POLISH) commentary that his person writes? (Thank you for correcting my misspelled word) Have you bothered to correct the spelling of the word "bejesus". Indeed it is stereotypical. My brother in law uses it constantly! When I write "dim Americans" I do so as a response to one stereotypical "dim" American...Fly! Don't you EVER learn? Have you read the violent NAZI RACIST (POLISH) commentary that his person writes? ...
historatia 1 year ago
@flyabroom Silence assumes CONSENT Fly, so I take it that you support violent behaviour against the nearest German? And such verbal abuse? Well, that's why I tagged you as being a POLISH NAZI Fly. Any Pole who could fail to criticize the violent outburst and threats of YouKnowWhat is CLEARLY a POLISH NAZI. I didn't turn on Canadians. In this country YouKnowWhat's behaviour constitutes a RACE CRIME. (even as expressed on the internet Fly!
historatia 1 year ago
@flyabroom It stops at those who conduct themselves responsibly in recognition of the human rights. Anyone that conducts himself in a manner that destroys the human rights of others (you should read the UN Declaration) is an "enemy" to me Fly, and that includes POLISH NAZIS. You're right. I need help in building a bulwark of defence against NAZI behaviour. Fortunately I am not alone.
historatia 1 year ago
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flyabroom 1 year ago
@historatia You know what I meant. You will need psychiatric help of one kind or another to keep you from blowing your faulty fuses. The other help, against the Poles, that you so seek here, you will find in the form of new hordes of neo-Nazis. It looks like there are more and more of them on YT, where you keep recruiting all the time. We are used to having such misfits roaming our countryside for centuries. Have fun leading them.
flyabroom 1 year ago
@flyabroom I have no interest in leading any group in any endeavour that isn't consistent with HUMAN RIGHTS, Fly, and that includes ALL PEOPLE. I refuse to work activeiy on any project where the objective is to undermine the human rights of any ethnic group, especially by the taint of propaganda that seeks to portray them as not deserving of human rights or justice, and falsifies THEIR truth. ... For example... in this post
historatia 1 year ago
@flyabroom ... Your wrote "We are used to having such misfits roaming our countryside for centuries".. is CODE for the Germans and Russians that you HATE (as your series of posts on so many vids makes very clear, and presumes that places like Prussia, Pomerania and Silesia were POLISH countryside always. You HATE and FABRICATE at the same time. That is POLISH LIES, which DENY HUMAN RIGHTS by POLISH NAZIS. Breslau was German. Today it is European under Polish provincial administration.
historatia 1 year ago
@historatia For a scholar and an expert in two languages, like yourself, you should know that "want to" is not the same as "will" or "have." In case you need further explanation, a simple example would be: I "want to" have a private airplane but I WILL NOT because I can only fly a broom.
flyabroom 1 year ago
@flyabroom You really should read "Preserve Remembrance - Conserve authentic Places - Assume Responsibility" by the International Auschwitz Committee. "... history is too often used to sow discord between human beings, groups and peoples. We object to the comparative assignment of blame, to the creation of hierarchies in the experiences of suffering, of competition between victims and to the confusion of historical phases. ..." YOU FLY and your gang of POLISH NAZIS engage in this practise.
historatia 1 year ago
@historatia I told you hiSSto that you are not stupid, but you are stubbornly ill intentioned. As history clearly shows, intelligence can be used in many different ways, for good or for bad. What makes your type of character so unpleasant to me is that you very well know, as you just said, that "history is too often used to sow discord between human beings, groups and peoples." Yet, it is PRECISELY what you are doing on these YT pages, and elsewhere.
flyabroom 1 year ago
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flyabroom 1 year ago
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@historatia This is why we are on the opposite sides, and NOT because you belong to a different ethnic group.
flyabroom 1 year ago
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@historatia
This is why we are on the opposite sides, and NOT because you belong to a different ethnic group.
flyabroom 1 year ago
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flyabroom 1 year ago
@historatia Below is another one of your typical ILL INTENTIONED manipulations: "Breslau was German. Today it is European under Polish provincial administration." Previously you claimed that because Germany is such an "economic success" we "better get used to" it controlling the European affairs. You also suggested I add 2+2. So, according to your "wisdom" Germany is in control of Europe of which Poland is a "province." Thus, Wroclaw is German? What about the Poles in your "new Europe", hiSSto?
flyabroom 1 year ago
@flyabroom
1. NOWHERE have I said that Germany is in control of Europe.
2. NOWHERE did I say that because Germany is such an "economic success" Poles would have to "get used to it" [Germany] controlling the European affairs.
You haver either READ IN meanings that are NOT there, or are deliberately manipulating my words. The simple fact is that seen from an effective "sorvereignty" perspective, Germany is ALSO A PROVINCE of EUROPE, and it is decidedly NOT in control!....
historatia 1 year ago
@flyabroom Wroclaw/Breslau is NOT German, is was largely "German-built", It IS EUROPEAN, as is BERLIN and as PARIS. That you had better get used to!
NOWHERE did I suggest that my "wisdom" was that Germany was or should be in control of Europe!. Europe should be in control of Europe.
Stop twisting my words!
historatia 1 year ago
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@historatia
This is why we are on the opposite sides, and NOT because you belong to a different ethnic group.
flyabroom 1 year ago
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@historatia This is why we are on the opposite sides, and NOT because you belong to a different ethnic group !
flyabroom 1 year ago
@historatia Here is typical inconsistency (manipulation - as you are not stupid) in your reasoning. You wrote that Lisbon Treaty is not the same as the failed constitution that would have made Europe one state but a set of laws governing the interaction between sovereign states. This is not exact quote but the essence of one of your previous statements. How does it square with your new claim of the Polish "province of Europe" (Germany?) musing? How do you expect the Poles to react to this?
flyabroom 1 year ago
@flyabroom I EXPECT the Poles to react EXACTLY AS YOU HAVE, namely to think it over in the context of a world in which "absolute sovereignty" is not even available (except at horrific cost) to the LARGEST of the so-call Nations, namely the China, the US, or Russia. Interdependencies are GLOBAL. Interdepenedices WITHIN Europe are INTENSE. (Germany can't feed itself without HUGE imports.) The de facto position is that ALL EUROPEAN states are "provinces" of a European TREATY structure. ...
historatia 1 year ago
@flyabroom I would expect that the salesmen of Solaris buses recognize that in an instant, as do the women hairdressers and grocery stores along the border in side Poland, and all the Germans who buy you busses and shop in Poland (lots of people). The POINT is that the de facto situation is NOT irreversible because the provinces have "opt-out" rights without reservation!!! With a 'constitution' that would not exist except by agreement of others. ...
historatia 1 year ago
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@historatia "is that it has ALWAYS BEEN a POLISH CITY." Don't recall ever saying that. Wroclaw has changed hands, but before WW2 it was in German hands. Silesia was in Polish hands longer than German hands, and I posted the time-line of the region's rulers. That I do recall.
flyabroom 1 year ago
@flyabroom That "opt-out" right of the dd facto "provinces" is somewhat dangerous to others who are internally adjusting their economies and societies to the patterns of Europe as a whole. So ANY OPT_OUT after the fact will do signigicant DAMAGE to others. (Imaging Poland leaving the IATA International Air Traffic Association, which would COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN AIR TRAVEL INTO AND OUT OF POLAND at the OPTION of POLAND ALONE. Get the point? ...
historatia 1 year ago
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@historatia "NOWHERE have I said that Germany is in control of Europe." You may be right. This statement may have come from someone else, but YOUR response was: "you better accept it (or get used to it) because Germany is an economical success." Again, this is not exact but the deep dark essence in the cup of your response.
flyabroom 1 year ago
@flyabroom NONE of this is manipulative in the least, but SELF-EVIDENT to most people. Poland would have to drill for its own oil, grow its own bananas, produce all its own electronics, make all its own clothing, etc etc to be -- almost autarchic in order to avoid giving over its sovereignty in a manner which allows for "opting out". If you want to go to "bilateral" trade -- outside of the EU and WTO (world trade organization) you should sharpen your spears for the return to the stone age!
historatia 1 year ago
@historatia
Globalization is a hotly debated topic in America and the rest of the world. Undoubtedly it is good for some big corporations, but there is a persistent and growing doubt whether it is any good even for the larger nations and/or their people. Let me assure you, in this debate, I haven't seen any spears passing by my head lately..
flyabroom 1 year ago
@flyabroom I don't much care whether its a hotly debated topic or not. One thing my experience has taught me. Most people thing "Governments run economies". Its nonsense. The true facts are "Economics runs government" where people have any freedom at all, because the market system is one giant voting machine that operates 24/7 year round. Look what increases in world trade has done for Korea, China, India, Japan, Indonesia, etc. Its NOT going away anytime soon.
historatia 1 year ago
@flyabroom ... If Poland steps awary from its its growing economic ties with Germany and all those hairdressers have to again dig potatoes in the rain, you'll hear about it. Poland will return to the stone age quickly because even mother Russia won't bend over to pick you up. Those are harsh realities made easy to take if one understands the mutual benefit for the people of Poland even if the mythologists don't like it. Globalization is NOT good for NAZI types because it robs them of power.
historatia 1 year ago
@historatia Look, im my neck of the woods silence means silence. We don't use "colloquial" dictionaries to translate simple to understand words. Also, in this same neck of the woods, we are used to commenting on what we choose to comment on, and no one will change that! On a side, I've been telling you for a long time now that your own racist insults provoke reactions that you get.
flyabroom 1 year ago
@flyabroom Oh good. So in your "neck of the woods" (to use anothe location specific colloquial expression)... What?? You confuse me FLY is you use a colloquial term and want me NOT to understand it? "Bejesus" that's nasty of you!! Does your part of the woods a "neck"? Is that like "my piece of turf?" Yes? Well then, I can go on and address you in your "neck of the woods".. Is that a Polish "neck" or a neck in Polish "woods"... hhmm.... Well, it tells me where you're REALLY from doesn't it!
historatia 1 year ago
@flyabroom So your telling me that "I've been telling you for a long time now that your own racist insults provoke reactions that you get.". Yes I KNOW, I KNOW. Except that what I state is NEVER a "racial insult". I don't EVER stoop to that. But I CERTAINLY provoke people to BLURT out and expound their HATREDS based on race/religion/ethnicity (hatred of Germans, Islamics, Jews, Russians ..) which is clearly more than abundant from that ethnic group that I refer to as POLISH NAZIS! Why? ..
historatia 1 year ago
@flyabroom I do it Fly,
1. to allow the "responding" RACIAL/ETHNIC HATREDS to speak for themselves to readers of these posts, where a minority of Poles (the POLISH NAZI types) sit in GLASS HOUSES and THROW STONES, and don't even have the DECENCY to ADMIT that the GLASS HOUSES they are sitting in are of GERMAN CONSTRUCTION. Breslau is a city of German construction, (as was the early "town law" of virtually all towns settled by people who call themselves Poles.) Do you agree Fly?
historatia 1 year ago
@flyabroom and
2. To encourage this very same group of HATRED-FILLED "POLISH NAZI's" to "singe themselves" in the fires of their own flame throwers, and PERHAPS understand that the people who built up life in beautiful Breslau pre-1945, and their progeny since, also suffered an INJUSTICE which was no more "deserved" than what happened to the Poles. CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY cannot be "offset" as vengeance. And finally ...,
historatia 1 year ago
@flyabroom I do it because
3. I think it important that the TRUTH of WW2 is NOT just "Germans are evil..." or even "German NAZIS are evil... " but that the POLISH leadership in the Interbellum (between the wars), of Pilsudski, Dmowsky, Beck, and so much of that tyrannical oligarchy held VERY SIMILAR "NAZI" views and also helped greatly to ignite the war, and bring on the horrible events that followed. So ...
historatia 1 year ago
@flyabroom ... I promote the view, (and believe) that NONE of the HOLDERS OF POWER, (legitimate as well as clearly illegitimate) of the "states" of the French, British, Poles, Russians, Americans, and non-state groups had "clean hands". At the same time, the vast majority of ALL of those "peoples" DID have clean hands, so HATREDS AGAINST any "PEOPLE" is NOT WARRANTED. Now go back to your "neck" -- whatever that is -- and think about it.
historatia 1 year ago
@historatia Only a few posts below is an example of your divisive manipulations: "Breslau is a city of German construction." We know that many buildings in pre-war Wroclaw WERE built by Germans. What you fail to acknowledge at the same time is that Wroclaw was converted into a military fortress to be held at ALL COST by the German High Command. This DESTROYED the pre-war "German buildings." Today's Polish Wroclaw is a Polish copy and restoration of the pre-war city.
flyabroom 1 year ago
@flyabroom I fully realize that Polish labour rebuilt was was in effect the original German design -- as has been done in Marienburg as well. If you had written at the end "restoration of the pre-war German city" we would not have an iota of disagreement. But your PREVIOUS (and probably still present) POSITION is that it has ALWAYS BEEN a POLISH CITY because its on RECOVERED POLISH LAND. -- which I regard as an absolute FICTION.
historatia 1 year ago
@historatia
oh oh oh oh i am a nazi because i will knock out a german like you:) what would your daddy do? was YOUR DADDY A NAZI? answer this question son of a whore.
YouKnowWhatYouAre 1 year ago
@YouKnowWhatYouAre No, because you threatened a perfectly innocent person with violence because of his ethnic affiliation . THAT'S what makes you POLISH NAZI, even though I know from your low grade coloquial word usage that you are actually an eastern Canadian.
historatia 1 year ago
@YouKnowWhatYouAre just to let you know my polish freind most of the white people in euroupe are decsendents of germanic tribes so good luck punching us all out, for reference the Francs , angles, saxons, suavie goths, longbardie, have descendants in every euroupean country,even your beloved poland are just another mix of germanic and slavic peoples,
seanyboyo1969 10 months ago
@seanyboyo1969
yes, everyone is you descendant, we owe you so much, now fuck off.
KeepHimAtBay 10 months ago
@KeepHimAtBayhit a raw nerve there didnt i.... you and idiots like you are the reason that ill allways side with my germanic bretheren, oh by the way YOU FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!
seanyboyo1969 10 months ago
@seanyboyo1969
like i would give a fuck who do you side with. i dont give a damn about pigs lovin other pigs.
KeepHimAtBay 10 months ago
@historatia
you didnt answer my question: WAS YOUR DADDY A NAZI??? i said that bullshit you say makes me wanna kick some german ass, so i am a polish nazi. i said that your children will be islamic and i am a racist. so i wonder who was your daddy? did you hate him? who was your mommy? was she a nazi racist pig?
you are very concerned about "innocent people" and hatred towards them, yet you still try to excuse violence and things YOUR father and his friends did in 1939:)funny pervert you are:)
YouKnowWhatYouAre 1 year ago
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@PeterPoserWobber Well, I don't realy live in Wroclaw, so I wouldn't know al the details, anyway it's supposed to be United Europe now and everybody can live wherever they please, just don't forget we hadn't asked for the changing of our borders in 1945 and we'd lost more than half of our country in the east in the war we hadn't started. Regards
marek800m 1 year ago
@marek800m Having NEVER BEEN polish before, your use of the term "(again)" about Breslau, Danzig and other cities, marks you as a LIAR, or a communist propaganda stooge. You choose!
historatia 1 year ago
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flyabroom 1 year ago
@historatia Never Polish? You like Wiki, so here is Wiki quote: "During Wrocław's early history, its control changed hands between Bohemia (until 992, then 1038-1054), the Kingdom of Poland (992-1038 and 1054–1202), and, after the fragmentation of the Kingdom of Poland, the Polish Piasts-ruled duchy of Silesia." But I guess an anti-Polish hate propaganda does not take FACTS into account.
flyabroom 1 year ago
@historatia And, of course, after WW2, Germans left nothing but RUINS in place of Wroclaw. These ruins were painstakingly rebuilt by the Poles to the city's beautiful present condition. Poles that settled there and rebuilt Wroclaw were usually those expelled from the Polish cities of Wilno and Lwow, taken by the Soviets during the 1939 German-Soviet invasion. Any claims today to Wroclaw by the Germans are a pathetic JOKE.
flyabroom 1 year ago
An einem geklauten Auto kann kein Eigentum erworben werden.An geraubten Häusern,Wäldern,Feldern und Ländereien auch nicht.
carinhall1 1 year ago
@carinhall1
yes my dear boy!!! tahts why we'll never get back this 80% of our cultural goods, our infrastructure, or milions of people that you - great nation of germans - killed.
who is the ultimate thief? learn your history. germans are perfect in thievery. parszywa kurwo.
YouKnowWhatYouAre 1 year ago
Sehr interessante Dokumentation einer altehrwürdigen Stadt!
Herzlichen Dank :-)
eltropodd 1 year ago
Силезия это Польша! Пруссия это Россия!
MrCrataegus 1 year ago
@mikste12 Politische Dummheit ist ein Synonym für Polen
NLNKP 1 year ago
@NLNKP
???
wohl eher für eure bananenrepublik
norbertnashorn87 1 month ago
Litwo ojczyzno moja, ty jestes jak zdrovie, ile cie mozna kochac ten tylko cie dowie, kto cie stracil. WWII tragedy is orchestrated by Stalin and his Lover Hitler. Why Stalin escaped Nurnberg process is just miracle. Now, when Russians left, let's drink together and argue who should claim capital of East Prussia-Konigsberg. As small child born in Goldap 1950 I could hear voices of German children and women murdered after city liberation. I wish, I knew German so I could tell you their story now.
thomasophiagoldap 1 year ago
yes it happens.
well, watch more carefully the intentions than the language. Sometimes its easy to offend someone by inapropriate accusing.
MrKresowiak 1 year ago
@MrKresowiak - Of course, false accusations can be very painful, but the only thing we can do is to present our own arguments. Of course, in case of any accusations referring to an individual, one can sue a person spraying them, but in case of history it is the matter of research, interpretation rather than simple yes-no answers. If you forbid accusations you introduce censorship of political views and historical research.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
Of course, not allowing bad language is also a form of censorship, technically speaking, but it does not repress the freedom of political views or any research. One is allowed to express his/her dislike towards particular views or even individuals, but one can do it without abusive language.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
civilized german people??? hahaha the biggest european murderers were german !!!
Nazi liar on YT called lustitia pax wants to forget about Holocaust and all bloody german crimes across the whole Europe.
We must stop nazi propaganda on YT !!!
MrKresowiak 1 year ago
@MrKresowiak - I think we have also to stop rude behaviour towards fellow YT-ers. We should stop any promotion of hate, no matter if agaist the whole groups or individuals.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner do so then !
MrKresowiak 1 year ago
@MrKresowiak - My impression is that someone has already did so and contributed to closing some accounts of very aggressive YT-ers. But they re-appear in new incarnations...
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
jebana faszystowska kurwa zwana lustitiapax przylazła i tu?
MrKresowiak 1 year ago
@MrKresowiak - wyrażaj się bardziej kulturalnie. YT jest otwarte dla dzieci i młodzieży, więc nie bluzgaj.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner debatuj sobie z gloryfikatorem nazizmu gdzie indziej. YT jest otwarte dla wszystkich i pseudonaukowe dyskusje z nazistą mogą siać zamęt wśród młodzieży.
MrKresowiak 1 year ago
@MrKresowiak - Nie zgadzam się z nim co do spojrzenia na przyczyny wojny, ale to nie znaczy, ze nie możemy normalnie rozmawiać. Ja przedstawiam swoje argumenty, on swoje. Jeśli go obrażasz, sugerujesz, ze nie masz argumentów.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner ja tą gnidę znam prawdopodobnie lepiej. Rozmowa z kimś takim go automatycznie dowartościowuje. Ponadto nazywanie jego nazistowskich wynurzeń argumentami jest sprzeczne z sensem pojęcia argument. Warto o tym pamiętać.
MrKresowiak 1 year ago
@MrKresowiak - nie wiem, nie będę sie licytować kto zna go lepiej. Nazista to narodowy socjalista, ktoś kto uznaje supremację rasy 'aryjskiej', a Iustitia takich pogladow nie podziela.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
@OlenkaWagner - IP twierdzi, że Polska jest współwinna wybuchu wojny (nie zgadzam się z tym), ale to jeszcze nie czyni go nazistą. Uważa, że nie tylko Niemcy (czy państwa Osi) popełniały zbrodnie, ale alianci też (i to nie tylko ZSRS) - to są akurat fakty, dyskutować można o skali zjawiska i o przyczynach i skutkach, ale co do faktów, że zbrodnie popełniali wszyscy trzeba się zgodzić.
OlenkaWagner 1 year ago
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@OlenkaWagner ten śmieć sieje propagandę antypolską na YT. Widziałem setki jego komentarzy negujących nazistowską winę oraz podważających powojenne granice Europy. Wypowiada się on w tematach mi znanych więc mam pogląd na jego stan wiedzy i intencje. Nie zamierzam dyskutować na jego temat.
Definycja nazisty jest o wiele szersza od przytoczonej. Przepraszam lecz nie mam ochoty na podobne spory.
MrKresowiak 1 year ago 3
@MrKresowiak
Nasz Latający Holender używa podwójnych kryteriów. To wszystko.
AZsaturn 1 year ago
@AZsaturn wiesz , ja znam Holendrów pamiętających o Polakach z Market Garden. Uwierz mi że mają niewiele wspólnego z faszystowską gnidą zwaną lustitiapax. To jest zwykły prymitywny nazistowski kundel.
MrKresowiak 1 year ago
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MrKresowiak 1 year ago
@MrKresowiak Ten nazista obudzi się żywy w grobie.Widzę , że jest jeszcze ktoś kto ma podobne zdanie do mojego, zawsze to balsam .
MrKamike 1 year ago
Jacy piękni Polacy, choć krasnale, w Polskim Wrocławiu.
MrKamike 1 year ago