I wish I had found this video earlier so I could have addressed islamresponse111's claim that Isaac was 40 and Rebeka was 3 when they married. Isaac was 40, that's said plainly in Scripture. However, Rebeka is described as going to the well with her pitcher on her shoulder, and gave Abraham's servant and his camels water to drink. This is how the servant knew this would be Isaac's wife. Now tell me, how can a 3 year old do that? This account is in Genesis 24.
Honey, I have posted my sources in the description section , there is a link for :
The complete jewish Bible with Rahi Cimmnentary explains Genesis - Chapter 25.
The Rabbai (Rahi cimmentar says in his explanation :
20. And Isaac was forty years old when he took Rebecca the daughter of Bethuel the Aramean of Padan Aram, the sister of Laban the Aramean, to himself for a wife.
forty years old: For when Abraham came from Mount Moriah, he was informed that Rebecca had been born.
Rebecca had been born. Isaac was then thirty-seven years old, for at that time Sarah died, and from the time that Isaac was born until the “Binding” [of Isaac], when Sarah died.
check the website yourself , it is not muslims web sites , it is jewish web site
@joy2fly05 Why people can't live their lives , why they are so worry about who had sex with good at what age ??? Who was there , who saw it ? Do you know his name ? And any way , i often wonderring who wrote all those holly books ? they are were written by many many many people, as 400 years after Mohammed died and the same with Bible. How anyone can applay their live by those books ? And fight over it , and kill each other .... hope one day people will wake up.
It looks like an elephant with a little bird, how could they have sex????
It is not just their ages dont match; the size of six years old is much smaller than 54 years old man. How can you imagine such abnormality with sizes and ages? ?
I think this video and the articles in the description section besides my reply on some comments in this video are more than enough , so why don't you watch the video, read the articles and educate yourself instead of repeating like a parrot an old false allegation has already been refuted ,i would understand if you tell me that you are slow as most of the islam bashers .
The background is that the Arabs did not concentrate on counting years and their count of years is inaccurate.The Quraysh were always persecuting Prophet Muhammad (saw). They were looking for ANY reason to disqualify him as a Prophet and Messenger of God. They were on the constant look out to prove the man was a fraud.
If marrying girls at young ages and consummating the marriage once puberty was reached was abnormal, disgusting, or sinful; Don't you think the Quraysh and jews of madinah would have jumped all over this? The fact remains that the Quraysh, Jews or no one ever spoke up about her age or against this marriage. So Aisha's age really has no relevance .
Lady Aisha was not a "child", rather, a psychologically mature adult.
""At the age of twenty years [he shall be] enrolled, that he may enter upon his allotted duties in the midst of his family (and) be joined to the holy congregation. He shall not [approach] a woman to know her by lying with her before he is fully twenty years old, when he shall know [good] and evil." (Messianic Rule Scroll, Dead Sea Scrolls). That dates to intertestamental times also people!
All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Muslim appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.
Im a Deist by the way and thank you by proving all 3 religions are sick .
You have no proof the age of any of these girls from the Bible .
But here is proof from youre own hadiths Mohammad was a child molester . Bukhari vol. 7, #65:
"Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was 6 years old and he consummated his marriage when she was 9 years old.
Hadith of Sahih Muslim, Vol 2, #3309
Hadith Abu Dawud, Vol. 2, #2116:
And still happens in Muslims countries to this day . but is illegal in the civilized world .
So you are comparing the bible which suppose to be a divine book with hadiths which according to us are a selection of the sayings of the prophet, do you want to tell us that your bible was written by a man not a divine book !!
first of all what you have written is not hadith because the prophet did not say it it is a tradition
Isaac was 37 yrs at time of binding_ of Isaac. News of Rebecca's birth reached Abraham immediately after that event (Gen 22:20).
Isaac was 40 yrs old when he married Rebecca (Gen 25:20), making Rebecca 3 yrs old at time of her marriage.
in part one of this video you will find a quotation from :The Tannaïtic Midrash Sifre to Numbers 31 and Rabbi Joseph said , "Come and take note: A girl three years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse.
The age of sexual consent is still quite low in many places not only in muslim counties and i provided a link in the description section about that . In Japan, people can legally have sex at age 13, and in Spain they can legally have sex at age 12.
A 40-year-old man having sex with a 14-year-old woman may be a "pedophile" in the USA today, but not in China today (where the age of consent is 14), nor in the USA last century. Biology is a much better standard by which to determine these things in my view, not the arbitrariness of human culture.
The Prophet's contemporaries (both enemies and friends) clearly accepted the Prophet's marriage to `Aisha without any problem. a change in culture caused the change in our times today
In the USA last century, the age of consent was 10 years old. California was the first state to change the age of consent to 14, which it did in 1889. After California, other US states joined in and raised the age of consent too.
the Quraysh, Jews or no one ever spoke up about her age or against this marriage. So Aisha's age really has no relevance when you are trying to prove your claims that he was a pedophile or that he wasn't a prophet.
above all Aisha was engaged to a man called jobeer
If marrying girls at young ages and consummating the marriage once puberty was reached was abnormal, disgusting, or sinful; Don' t you think the Quraysh would have jumped all over this? If this wasn't normal then they would have used this against him to try to prove he was not a Prophet of God.
The Common Law age of consent was 10. The French penal code raised the age from 11 to 13 only a century ago. In England, it was only in 1929 (70 years ago) that the ancient Christian minimum age for the marriage of females, which was 12, was abandoned. The early rock and roll singer Jerry Lee Lewis was considerably older than his 13 cousin whom he married in all legality in Arkansas. Since then, the age there has been raised to 16.
Check out the links in the description section and stop repeating as a parrot what you have been taught without educating yourself from the correct sources .
as I demonstrated in this video the bible never condemn pedophilia and there is even verses in the bible are may be considered to be endorse the practice.cont
Alright I was joking with you because like I say I never really talk about Aisha thing with Muslim.
I know that Muslims some are honorable.
But, know that in the bible it says in the Christian NT, that we keep marriage bed sacred and also like Jesus has one church truly, we have only one spouse a man and a woman.
So wait are you saying that The christian Morality is the best here because of today, the christian world only place with most everyone agree even many atheist and stuff in christian world thinks its bad to do pedophile stuff?
In Muslim world many "tribal" area where people do honor killing and pedophile things.
I never was like that to say to Muslim about Aisha, but I am just answering you here.
"in christian world thinks its bad to do pedophile stuff"so you are blaming muslims of doing such an act. from your comment and your profile I understand that you are a christian so please give me the biblical text that condemn the practice of pedophilia . pedophilia is a sexually
"In Muslim world many "tribal" area where people do honor killing and pedophile things"
Honor killings and pedophilia are not limited to muslims ,muslims seculars practice pedophilia and honor killings I ll give you an example:
,when a western couple have a fight because of some jealousy when she is cheating on her boy friend with some other man and they are getting into an argument and he kill her, what is that!! it is the same thing.
pedophilia and honor killings are very common problem that everybody face, and blaming them on one people and one religion is not ganna solve the problem.Islam doesn't call for any such thing such as pedophilia and honor killings , and I challenge you to give me the Quranic text which allow such acts.
Muslims who commit the act of pedophilia and honor killings ,simply do it because of their backward cultural tribal laws which have nothing to do Islam.the pagan arab used to bury their daughters alive because the felt shamed and wanted boys in their families to carry the legacy etc.Islam condemned this action in the quran chapter 31, verse 58-59
as for the marriage of Aisha , I have refuted this in this video , see also this video: T.I.D.F/She was 6 he was 54 -child marriage in Islam
So, you think that it's any better that Moses caused the Israelites to have to choose between letting their people die out or marry children? When they killed all boys and all women except the children, that really leaves no choice but for the adult men to marry them, does it? So Moses caused them to commit pedophilia through his actions. Not very Godly, more sadistic.
Ahhh! Yes! Typical Islam. Typical muslims. Two wrongs make a right. Evil begets evil and Islam is as evil as it comes. Muslims claim some moral high ground, but nastyness pours forth.
I suppose u would love to see your sister been fucked at 9 years old by a 54 year old nutcase who say he talks with angels only he can see... So piss off, child-fucker lover
Your bias AGAINST Islam makes U indifferent to slandering your own ancestors, & I am ready to bet they had much better sexual morals than you, and were much more sincere.
I think part one of this video is more than enough to shut your filthy mouth up
Matthew 18:5 And he that shall receive one such little child in my name, receiveth me. 6 But he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea.
Pedophilia is cursed by God. It is the Christian version, the words of Jesus.
What claptrap you talk u can find hundreds of videos on the internet showing child brides in islam Most have never been asked 4their consent 2marriage ..it has just been forced on 2them U KNOW IT & I KNOW IT I WOULD LAUGH IF SOMEONE GRABBED U OFF THE STREET & TOOK YOUR WALLET ..& THEN IF THEY GOT CAUGHT BY THE POLICE THEY COULD SAY WELL HE SAID NOTHING BUT WE KNEW IT WAS OUT OF FEAR BUT STILL AS HE SAID NOTHING WE THOUGHT HE WAS GIVING US HIS CONSENT FOR US TO ROB HIM THE WALLETS OURS OH ALLAH
(u can find hundreds of videos on the internet showing child brides in islam)
You proved to us again that you either stupid or cant read properly ,I said and my comment is still here:
(If women in the Muslim World today don't have their rights, it is not because Islaam did not give them to them. The problem is that in many places alien traditions have come to overshadow the teachings of Islaam, either through ignorance or the impact of Colonialisation.)
You think marriage is raping , then I wouldnt be surprised if you tell me that you dont know your real father is.
Do you think I am sitting her just to answer your stupid questions that were refuted many times and I gave you the names of muslims videos regarding women right in islam but you do not want to be educated ,
Don't listen to the lies propagated to you by Islamophobic bigots!
Hazrat Aisha (RA) was 18-23 when she was married!
Video: tXaw9UZlK_I
Who is the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) really?
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is the most HONEST, RIGHTEOUS, PIOUS, KIND, SINCERE, HANDSOME, HUMBLE, JUST, SMART, MERCIFUL, AND HONOURABLE PERSON AND CREATION OF ALLAH.
The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the greatest of Allah's creation.
Is 2create a world where men have Absolute Power & Women have Absolutely None.
Women are only respected in islam if they are prepared to relinquish all their free will 2 all men.
Punishment 4 Women refusing 2give up their free will,
Can lead to a family or community who will Ridicule, Harass, Imprison, Ostracise or commit Violence towards the woman, & sometimes ends with them MURDERING HER.
My comment is 2 do with ur video & r not copy & paste but written by myself & r my own conclusions on ur koran
What u suggest in ur video ..is who r we 2 question a god if a 9yr old child is capable of getting pregnant ..then lets do it & the only reason y u don't is because u live in the west & they won't let u
A child is not allowed the free will in islam 2say no i don't want sex with a 50yr old
I have replied before on this issue ,what exactly are you talking about proving your inability to read propely.what is further absurd is that, you further tried to make an emotional appeal to women s rights to redeem yourself but ultimately it doent absolve you from error..
repeating things doesnt make your argument look any convincing but some sort of attempt of yours to give yourself some re assurance
The narrations attributed to Hisham ibn Urwa state Aisha (R) was married at nine years old. But other narrations explicitly contradict this fact. For example, Tabari himself states that Aisha (R) was born in the pre-Islamic period, which in itself, renders the age of nine absurd, because the age of the Meccan period was 13 years. Further, Tabari also records that Aisha (R) was engaged prior to the Prophet (S) to the daughter of a leading unbeliever, .
and the engagement was broken off when Islam came. Abu Bakr (S) was one of the very first members of Islam, so to say his daughter was engaged at what would amount to 1 or 2 years old is about as absurd as it gets. , age wasn't something they calculated with precision. Most ancient socieities didn't normally record ages either.
The Quraysh were always persecuting Prophet Muhammad (saw). They were looking for ANY reason to disqualify him as a Prophet and Messenger of God. They were on the constant look out to prove the man was a fraud.
If marrying girls at young ages and consummating the marriage once puberty was reached was abnormal, disgusting, or sinful; Don' t you think the Quraysh would have jumped all over this?
If this wasn't normal then they would have used this against him to try to prove he was not a Prophet of God. The fact remains that the Quraysh, Jews or no one ever spoke up about her age or against this marriage. So Aisha's age really has no relevance when you are trying to prove your claims that he was a pedophile or that he wasn't a prophet.
Still u don't get it What u are Advocating is the rape of a child Why is it the koran is written so women & children are completely powerless in islamic society ..Why & women are only given so called respect as long as they give up their free will U NEVER MENTION THE RIGHTS OF THE CHILD OR WOMAN THE RIGHT TO SAY I DO NOT WANT 2MARRY I DON'T WANT SEX FORCED ON ME OR I WANT 2CHOOSE 4 MYSELF BECAUSE IF THEY CUD U WOULD NEVER HAVE CHILD BRIDES IN AFRICA OR THE MIDDLE EAST BECUS THEY WUD SAY NO
The Prophet said, "A matron should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a virgin should not be given in marriage except after her permission." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! How can we know her permission?" He said, "Her silence (indicates her permission)."
Islam gives great respect to women and their role in society; it gives them the right to own property, marry who they want and many other rights.
Women have the right to inherit property and to have their marriage dissolved in the case of neglect or mistreatment Actually, the rights that Islaam gave to women over 1400 years ago were almost unheard of in the West until the 1900's.
Less than fifty years ago in England and America, a woman could not buy a house or car without the co-signature of her father or husband!
If women in the Muslim World today don't have their rights, it is not because Islaam did not give them to them. The problem is that in many places alien traditions have come to overshadow the teachings of Islaam, either through ignorance or the impact of Colonialisation.
Now , read about Islam from its sources ,not from haters sources .
I dont have time to respond on all your old false allegations against Islam.
you can see the web sites in my profile , if you want to learn about islam, if you just want to close your brain and keep repeating then bye. find another page
What happened to you guys before the 1920's which is in the freakin 20th century when women were treated like property and Muslim women had MANY MANY MANY more rights than any "Western" woman? Now, you think just because feminism is so prevalent and Lesbianism, Adultery, Fornication, Clad clothing are OK in Western cultures, you can come and change Islam to mend to your ways?
First of all we dont have any verse in the Quran states clearly the age of Aisha when she get married ,all we have is a tradition is not even hadith because hadith is saying of prophet Muhammad and there wasn't a birthday certificate at that time
anyway,there is disagreement among muslims regarding her age. but even if she was 9 years age when she married the prophet
Bukhari ..collected over 700.000 hadiths over 40yrs..this is over 200 yrs after mohammeds death
Out of 700,000 hadiths he accepted only 7000 as being true & believed the other 693,000 were fake ..That means he only kept 1% of the hadiths he found .How do we know the 1% he kept are anymore true than the one's he rejected
No one knows..we can't judge them by the ones he rejected ..where are they & if a wife curses her husband the koran says she goes 2hell so who wud criticise there husband
no one has criticized the prophet back then when he married her,
imagine if I try to apply 1908's standards today; you will find a lot of things acceptable then that arent now and vice versa. So what about 1429 years before?!! This is a typical your mentality of being unfair all the way.
Omar ibn Alaktab married Othman s daughter and he was mush older than her,
in the bible ,it is evident that as Abraham (who then had the name Abram) was 86 years old, Hagar must have been some fifty years younger than him, and probably even younger, to bear a child. Secondly, the Bible speaks of Sarai giving her maidservant Hagar to Abraham. So Hagars consent was not obtained but rather she was commanded by Sarai to go and become Abrahams wife.
The marriage in any society is covered by "traditions" and there is no restrictions on the age of the woman in any religion and it's very clear from the history that no one accused the prophet (Pease be upon him) of getting married to Aisha by Qouraish or by the Jews in Madina. This accusation appeared during the 20th century when the average age of a married woman increased. On the other hand, you allow young girls to have relationships with boyfriend outside marriage!!!
The only condition Islam puts for a woman to get married is not her age (which is not a fair measurement because people in the same age may differ largely). But Islam put a very fair condition which is not age-dependant that the woman is capable of getting married physiologically and physiologically.
I have posted in my video , websites forA 9-year old Thai girl gave birth andA 12-year old Christian girl getting married in Romania according to cnn so
She was 9 and some traditions say she was 11 when she married the prophet not 6. apparently you didnt watch the video .and you didnt read my replies or you are slow.
there are many fake hadith that is true but there are many ways to distinguish between authentic and unauthentic hadith ,like following the chain of narrators if there is a break in it then the hadith is false
Aisha was already engaged to a non Muslim man named Jober Ibn Al-Moteam Ibn Oday. Back then, the people of Mecca did not object to Aisha's engagement to Jober because she was physically big enough and tall enough to be considered for marriage. Her parents saw that and they engaged her to Jober.
according to catholic encyclopedia the mother of Jesus .she was between 11-14 years old when she conceived Jesus. Mary had already been "BETROTHED" to Joseph before conceiving Jesus. Joseph was a much older man.he was 90 years old . therefore Mary was younger than 11-14 years of age when she was "BETHROED" to Joseph.
we muslims never call her marriage to Joseph sick nor would we refer to the "Holy Ghost" of the Bible, that "Impregnated" Mary as a "Rapist" or "Adulterer
please do your Math 700,000 hadith in 16 years.. see what figures you come up with.. he wrote down what he found. that is it!! he did no RESEARCH.. NO EVALUATIONs.. NOHTHING!!
Things are obviously different FOURTEEN HUNDRED years ago! It was a completely different society, a different world. Stop looking at it from the eyes of someone living in the 21st century.
entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; 7Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; 8Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
9But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.10And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. 11And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.etc
Just a few weeks ago I read in the news that in Iran a 9-year-old girl filed for divorce from her 15-year-old husband just after 20 days of marriage because he would constantly beat her. When the young man was questioned he said: �She neglects her housework and plays with her dolls all the time�.
The marriage at 6 or 7 was MARRIAGE CONTRACT . she didnt come to live with holy Prophet (pbuh) before maturity.
So no question of thighing before maturity.
marriage of Lady Aisha with holy Prophet was ordained by Allah through Angel Jibreel, who showed her photo to holy Prophet saying"This is your wife"
At 6 Aisha (RA) was engaged with another man and her engagement was broken with the permission of that man and marriage contract was made with Holy Prophet , peace be upon him .
This video confirms what I have heard... that Arabs went around the black stone (which looks like a woman's vagina) naked while worshipping their idols. And today Muslims still go around the black stone naked under a single sheet like piece of clothing. They are today going around this same stone remembering the nakedness of the idolaters. This reveals that Islam is idolatry with a mask on it. Muslims are still practicing the same ritual as their pagan ancestors.
ofthehighest,the story of building al-kaba you can find it in many sites and videos in youtube such as this one:The Sacrificed-Ishmael 1/2
as for your dirty imagination that the black stone looks like women vagina, I am not surprised since the unholy book and song of songs which you believe is the word of God feed your imaginations with these dirty stuff since your God himself was glorifying women vagina and says women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine"(Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9
You put your nose in other people's religions but you don't like it when people expose the truth about Islam being a religion from Satan using God to wage war with all non Muslims
The Quran told you the Bibles of 2 religions were falsified by a man who didn't know the languages of the Bibles
Both the Jews and Christians rejected him because they knew he was a false prophet so he slaughtered them, proving it all the more that he was false
Who put his nose in other people religions are your perverted missionaries who attack islam in order to stop christians from converting to it,( islam is a religion of Satan)!! don't think we will keep silence
your ignorance and arrogance is amazing! The word Islam means peace. Mohammed pbuh and the Quran speak of the same morals that Jesus did. In fact, Islam embraces Jesus, Mary, Abraham, Moses, and all of the other people that Christians and Jews worship and pray to.
.But the bible disgraces them by making them fornicators, idolators and liars. i can say who wrote the bible is Satan and I can prove that to you . in fact I have already proved that in my videos .
The main difference is that Islam only worships God, the same God as the Christians and Jews, and views everyone else and messengers of God just as Mohammed pbuh was.
It is your kind of ignorance and hatred that causes all the pain and suffering in the world. At least try to educate yourself before sputtering hateful and ignorant rhetoric. there are many web sites and videos have refuted all your missionaries false allegations against Islam ,
I can say also.christianity and jowdaism are idolatry and their followers are worshiping and bowing to icons , jesus and marry statues and wall.there are many videos shows the identical relation between modern christianity and Pagan.such asChristianity is Pagan.( made by:manhornz)
you see bashing is easy and all your false allegations .I could fire them back to you)
Muhammad pbuh marriage with Aisha has been refuted in this video and in many other videos such as:
(Prophet Muhammad and Aisha 1/3) mad by brother,muhaddithORG,
and it's very clear from the history that no one accused the prophet (Pease be upon him) of getting married to Aisha by Qouraish or by the Jews in Madina and she was engaged to a man named Aljobeer before she married the prophet .
but why you didn't reject the marriage of your man god mother with 90 years old man when she was only 12 years old!! this is called hypocrisy , anyway there is no quranic verse has mentioned her age nor hadith( prophet sayings) there is only one tradition about her age
(Your God had chosen fornicators and killers to Guide men to truth Mr ;ignorant . actually , christianity is the religion of war against non believers and I proved that in my video:(Muhammad & Terror P1/3-Osama Abdullah-investigateislam)
It is ok if you are ignorant , it is fine with me to educate you more about your bloody bible
there is more if you like. you should have no problem with these verses from OT since its the same God, so hence if the God of the OT said kill then it means Jesus said kill because he has no God. So you have no way out of this mess.
actually Paul himself complimented the prophets who fought with the sward
Paul message to Hebrews 11(32And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets: 33Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions. 34Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.)
Instead of facing the Quran and its teachings, you are trying to justify its hatred and violence against Non Muslims and Muslims by distracting your own attention to the Bible that you can never understand nor accept because Muhammd told you the bible of the Jews and Christians was falsified that ends your ability to ever comprehend the Bible
Put your big nose back into the Quran and question it because God is real and is with all people on earth but He is not Satan and only Islam is from Satan
You are repeating the same arguments which I have already replied on that proves you have no argument and I do not have more time to waste with brain washed idiot like you, bye
I am not in a mess, you are because your religion began with a false prophet who proved it by his contradictions, his hatred and violence using God
You are here defending a Paedophile and mass murderer who was greedy for the spoils of war and female slaves
who lied about Jesus, and who used Jesus to endorse himself
Paul is not Jesus
I adhere only to what Jesus said although I respect Paul for converting Turkey and Greece to Christianity without bloodshed and he died for Christianity
(my religion began with a false prophet) Jews as well believe that Jesus is a false prophet and according to them he is bastard, they call him son of Pandera( the Romanian soldier who claimed to be slept with his mother) event-though Jesus had sent to them and they had seen his miracles that is why they treated him as a liar and as a false prophet and they decided to crucify him , they even called him satan and Satan was his friend , read Mathew12:23-25
Mathew 12(24But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.25And Jesus knew their thoughts,) I am going to ask you the same question
You are her to defend your man God himself the biggest pedophile and mass murder .
I disgrace you and Paul because he teaches you to be hypocrite like him.
female slaves , raping and killing women is in your bible and I have made a video about that , its title:
The Quran doesn't state hate liar , there are many videos asI said before had already debunked this lie long time ago such as:
(Jihad's meaning & misunderstood Quranic text part 1/6) in salam752 's account . but if you read your own bible which I doubt you will find the punishments that the God of the Bible will do to his people if they dont follow him are:
1- God will cause his people to murdered and massacared, and they will flee in all directions.
2- People will beget children but will not be able to enjoy them because they will be sent into slavery.
3- People's children shall be given to other people and the parents will wish they could have them back but they wont.
4- cannabilism, yes cannabilism! 53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee
Read this bloody disgusting verse for example:(Numbers
Chapter 31 7-12
And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males. 8 And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword. 9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones..
God warns people of war and its consquence, war is man made
To accuse God of slaughtering people through soldiers is adding satan before God
Humankind is responsible for all human sufferings and injustices on earth and Islam as a religion contributes to both sufferings and injustices using God
When Muhammad said when you slaughter it is not you but God who is slaughters through you, Muhammad added Satan before God
and casted blame and responsibilty onto God when only Muhammad was to blame
(Aisha testified in the Hadith that she has never seen women suffer as much as believing women)
please post the hadith and its number.
note:
as I said before , all of your missionaries couldn't find anything in the Quran to disgrace muslims with that is why they either inventing lies or looking for weak and false hadith. and you just proved my point
would you like me to Quote for you from the gospel of philip which says that Jesus had married marry Majdulain and was kissing her from the lip , or the gospel of Jacob which says Marry ( Jesus mother got fingered into her vagina to examine her virginity etc. . do you accept that .
My challenge was to give me a single verse from the Quran not from a false hadith
You asked for proof in the Quran of the murdering of women and children
While it is known in some hadith that Muhammd prohibited the murder of women and children, he gave exceptions
as with a woman laughing histerically was beheaded, as with a breast feeding woman was blungoned to death for insulting Muhammad
The world witnessed the slaughter of 300Chechen school children and Mothers in 1994 by Muslims and Honour killing kills children and women and is practiced world wide by Muslims
( as with a breast feeding woman was blungoned to death for insulting Muhammad)!the source of this story is invalid. Not because the source is weak, but because there is no source!
there is no evidence what so ever for this story of killing women because there is no narration or source given. It was contrary to the teachings of the Quran and the Prophet's character. Therefore, you have to stop using this.
The Holy Quran is our divine book. but Hadith is a collection of prophet Muahmmad sayings and there are many gossips and lies have been added to prophet s companions that is why there are many false hadiths exactly as the apocryphal bibles but the difference between them that we can distinguish between hadith from following the chain of the narrators and many other factors
Sura 5:33 the recompense of those who war against God and his apostle and go about to commit disorders on the earth shall be slain or crucified or have their alternate hands and feet cut off
This sura is applied today in both Sudan and Serra Leon against even children
TV footage shows little babies, and children with both hands cut off,
Tell me how these little ones wage war against God Almighty and the dead apostle Muhammad?
(The only punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is that they should be murdered, or crucified, or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides, or they should be imprisoned. This shall be a disgrace for them in this world, and in the Hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement.)
The punishment, el castigo, was due to the mischief that the enemies of Islam were committing on the Muslims. .
This was a death sentence to those who were raping the Muslim women and children. That is what is referred to here as mischief in the land.
This has nothing to do with children ,My question is where do you get your information that this verse in the Qur'an, which you quote very often refers to children or even on any other faith . send me this tv shows you are talking about (my dead apostle)
dont forget that your man god had died for 3 days idiot and satan never die !!!
I have posted many videos to you which have already explained these Quranic verses which you have misquoted them and you still repeating the same argument!! i am going to explain one verse because I dont have time to waste with a blind hater like you.
verse 8:12: becomes clear if you read the whole verse and do not take it out of its context , it says:
verse8:12 When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
([9]: Lo! You were praying unto your Sustainer for aid, whereupon He thus responded to you: I shall, verily, aid you with a thousand angels following one upon another!
([10]: And God ordained this only as a glad tiding, and that your hearts should thereby be set at rest - since no succour can come from any save God: verily, God is almighty, wise!
[11]: [Remember how it was] when He caused inner calm to enfold you, as an assurance from Him, and sent down upon you water from the skies, so that He might purify you thereby and free you from Satans unclean whisperings and strengthen your hearts and thus make firm your steps.)
([12]: Lo! Thy Sustainer inspired the angels [to convey this His message to the believers]: I am with you! [And He commanded the angels:] And give firmness unto those who have attained to faith (with these words from Me I shall cast terror into the hearts of those who are bent on denying the truth; strike, then, their necks, and strike off every one of their finger-tips. [emphasis added])
The verse is clearly speaking about the events surrounding the Battle of Badr. It is not a general command to strike at the necks of the infidels. Anyone with an understanding of the history of Islam knows this. When I read these verses, I know that they refer to the Battle of Badr. No where in my mind is there even an inkling of a thought to strike at the necks of the infidels.
the Battle of Badr, the first major battle between the Muslims and the Meccan pagans around 625 C.E. A little background is in order.
2- verse:(47:4)
you quoted only part of the verse out of context and this is proves either you are ignorant and just using copy past or you know the rest of the verse but try to mislead others
(Now when you meet [in war] those who are bent on denying the truth (commonly translated as the infidels") smite their necks until you overcome them fully, and then tighten their bonds; but thereafter [set them free] either by an act of grace or against ransom, so that the burden of war may be lifted: thus [shall it be]. cont1
. And [know that] had God so willed, He could indeed punish them [Himself]; but [He wills you to struggle] so as to test you [all] by means of one another. And as for those who are slain in Gods cause, never will He let their deeds go to waste. verse (47:4)
This verse, like 8:12, is speaking about the believers conduct in an open battle against the enemy. God is psyching up the believers before a battle, just like American soldiers psych themselves up before they go into combat. It is not an open call to behead all infidels. Once again, when the verse is understood in its context, this becomes obviously clear.
In fact, the verse actually is one of mercy toward the enemy. After the battle is over, during which the believers are to smite their necks, the verse directs the believers to set free those who are captured by the Muslims, either by an act of grace or against ransom. These captives are avowed enemies, who would have killed the believers if they had the chance. Despite this, however, the verse directs the Muslims to set them free. How, in Gods Most Holy Name, can this verse be one of terror
But, you know, anyone can misquote, mistranslate, or quote out of context a verse of scripture to seemingly prove a point. This has been done with the Biblical text for centuries to justify such things as slavery and racism. Muslim terrorists do the exact same thing with the Quran to justify their heinous acts of murder. But just because they do so, it does not mean the Quran is therefore violent
We see it in your Bible, one of your greatest prophets killing women and children by God's permission, meaning Jesus allowed it! So hence Jesus was responsible for killing women and children, and so was Moses so according to our own argument, Moses cannot be a prophet since he killed.
Moses and his soldiers didn't kill women and kids by himself ,The Jewish soldiers were commanded by God in the bible to keep the woman children (little girls) for themselves! In addition, they commanded to kill every woman that hath know a man by lying with him. How these soldiers in those days know if the girls are virgin or not? Simply they verify it by raping them and if the Jews discovered that they are non-virgins then they kill them as they commanded by God
(28. And levy a tribute unto the LORD of the men of war which went out to battle: one soul of five hundred, both of the persons,(including the little girls) and of the beeves, and of the asses, and of the sheep:
29. Take it of their half, and give it unto Eleazar the priest, for an heave offering of the LORD.
30. And of the children of Israel's half, thou shalt take one portion of fifty, of the persons(including the little girls), of the beeves, of the asses, and of the flocks, cont2
(35. And thirty and two thousand persons in all, of women that had not known man by lying with him.
36. And the half, which was the portion of them that went out to war, was in number three hundred thousand and seven and thirty thousand and five hundred sheep)
(40. And the persons(including little girls) were sixteen thousand; of which the LORD'S tribute was thirty and two persons.(preteen girls))
1- In the verse 35 we are told that Jews caught as booty 32.000 preteen girls for themselves.
2-The verse 40 is to dedicate the little girls (of women that had not known man by lying with him-32 of them)
toGod! As God, himself commanded above that wants these preteen girls. Indeed clear perversion, God in the bible want for himself 32 little girls, why? Maybe to do what his soldiers(Jews)to the innocent little girls.
Therefore Bible by saing that LORD'S tribute was thirty and two persons.(preteen girls) actually demonstrate the Pedophilic nature of the biblical God . Shame to the Bible and Shame to you and to its followers. .
So when we hear from the media, Priests(Christians and Jews-majority of Christians) that rape and molest young preteen boys and girls, we must not be surprised because these are the teachings from their Holy Book the Bible, as clearly demonstrated from the Verses : Numbers 31: 25-40.
He stopped stoning of aduterers, he protected women in monoganous marriages,he defended the rights of children which at his time was contraversial for he even taught women sacred knowledge which was unheard of in his time
When Jesus was arrested and Peter pulled out a sword cutting the ear of a soldier, Jesus stopped it and he was said to heal the ear wound
Jesus fought against oppression, he fought against the religious leaders that oppressed people
luke 22 (6Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one)
did they buy these swords to play with them hockey for example
He forbade the Jews from stoning women who committed adultery so if she committed another adultery would Jesus forgive her again? Dont you think that Jesus encourages adultery by doing so!! And he breaks Moses low .that is why idolaters and idolatress use this verse a lot to justify their adultery
You asked for proof if there were Christians(or Jews) in Saudi Arabia. They were slaughtered in the time of Muhammad and since then forbidden to live there
Then ask what is the Dome of the Rock doing in Jerusalem?
If you have any honesty in you, you will reply Muslims invaded Israel and all the Christian Middle East, Northern Africa, Asia, and all that are Muslim nations( except Indoasia) to this day were forced conversion to Islam based on the instructions of both the Quran and Hadith
I asked you to prove that there were christians in arabic
peninsula. I know that
Jews were a part of the Islamic society living in Madienah, where they used to live with Muslims as one family, the prophet (PBUH) gave them all rights of citizenship just the same given to every Muslim. He did not kick them out, or burned them, or seized their properties as the church's Popes or the European Kings did
Beside this, the Prophet (PBUH) held with them a protection and safety convention, in which both parties (Muslims & Jews) were obliged to protect each other in case any harm or danger menaced them.
But the Jews contacted secretly the enemies of the Prophet (PBUH) and provoked them to fight against him, and offered them all forms of support.
Here we get surprised by a very ridiculous and strange attitude, when we realize that you denied your religion (OT)- that contains the idea of unification and orders to fight polytheism and paganism exactly like ISLAM
Jews never invaded the middle east so what they have been doing in Palestine, dont tell me it is their land because refuting this lie is very easy from the bible and history, Jews consider themselves as God chosen nations and look down to non jews ,they consider christians and their church as pig fold, They are racists and of course they do not want filthy uncircumcised person to be jewish
It is a false accusation that the Jews contracted secretly enemies because the Jews had weapons to defend themselves against even Muhammad and his men but the Jews went weaponless before Muhammad as they did not want to wage war alongside Muhammad in order to slaughter their own neighbours and so Muhammad killed them
For in war, those who do not fight for you are seen to fight against you
Muslims were Not like the Jews in unifying and fighting polytheism and paganism
It is one thing to have done so in Saudi Arabia but even Muhammad invaded Syria and elsewhere against people who believed in ONE God, forcing All the Middle East to convert to Islam( and the Last to fall was Lebanon now all that is left is Israel) For they say first come Saturday then comes Sunday
Sura 16:125 was in the beginning
then it became sura 9:29 make war upon those to whom the scriptures were given
Muhammad chased 2 Jewish tribes away but the third, he falsely accused them of breaking a treaty, he beheaded all 600 boys and men, then sold their girls as slaves, one prize of the booty was his third wife, Sofia
The reason he slaughtered the third tribe was he needed the spoils of war and female slaves to reward his soldiers
Wars is deception which he admitted
Wars were made for domination
and what better excuse then to impose a newly invented religion that Made Muhammad a partner to God
the jewish who live in Palestine they are newly converted to judaism ,their ancestors never lived in Saudi Arabia nor in Palestine If Islam was spread by the sword, it was the sword of intellect and convincing arguments. It is this sword that conquers the hearts and minds of people. The Quran says in this connection:
Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. (Quran 16:125
good video and akhi keep walking with honor and pride you are upon Haq.barakAllaah fikum
AbuMusaNiazi 1 year ago
I wish I had found this video earlier so I could have addressed islamresponse111's claim that Isaac was 40 and Rebeka was 3 when they married. Isaac was 40, that's said plainly in Scripture. However, Rebeka is described as going to the well with her pitcher on her shoulder, and gave Abraham's servant and his camels water to drink. This is how the servant knew this would be Isaac's wife. Now tell me, how can a 3 year old do that? This account is in Genesis 24.
joy2fly05 1 year ago
@joy2fly05
Honey, I have posted my sources in the description section , there is a link for :
The complete jewish Bible with Rahi Cimmnentary explains Genesis - Chapter 25.
The Rabbai (Rahi cimmentar says in his explanation :
20. And Isaac was forty years old when he took Rebecca the daughter of Bethuel the Aramean of Padan Aram, the sister of Laban the Aramean, to himself for a wife.
forty years old: For when Abraham came from Mount Moriah, he was informed that Rebecca had been born.
islamresponses111 1 year ago
@joy2fly05
Rebecca had been born. Isaac was then thirty-seven years old, for at that time Sarah died, and from the time that Isaac was born until the “Binding” [of Isaac], when Sarah died.
check the website yourself , it is not muslims web sites , it is jewish web site
chabad. org
islamresponses111 1 year ago
@joy2fly05 Why people can't live their lives , why they are so worry about who had sex with good at what age ??? Who was there , who saw it ? Do you know his name ? And any way , i often wonderring who wrote all those holly books ? they are were written by many many many people, as 400 years after Mohammed died and the same with Bible. How anyone can applay their live by those books ? And fight over it , and kill each other .... hope one day people will wake up.
Zaharkina 3 months ago
A girl young as 5 gave birth. Lina medina is her name.
FULF1Z 1 year ago
It looks like an elephant with a little bird, how could they have sex????
It is not just their ages dont match; the size of six years old is much smaller than 54 years old man. How can you imagine such abnormality with sizes and ages? ?
melkisadeki 1 year ago
@melkisadeki
I think this video and the articles in the description section besides my reply on some comments in this video are more than enough , so why don't you watch the video, read the articles and educate yourself instead of repeating like a parrot an old false allegation has already been refuted ,i would understand if you tell me that you are slow as most of the islam bashers .
islamresponses111 1 year ago
The background is that the Arabs did not concentrate on counting years and their count of years is inaccurate.The Quraysh were always persecuting Prophet Muhammad (saw). They were looking for ANY reason to disqualify him as a Prophet and Messenger of God. They were on the constant look out to prove the man was a fraud.
cont
islamresponses111 1 year ago
If marrying girls at young ages and consummating the marriage once puberty was reached was abnormal, disgusting, or sinful; Don't you think the Quraysh and jews of madinah would have jumped all over this? The fact remains that the Quraysh, Jews or no one ever spoke up about her age or against this marriage. So Aisha's age really has no relevance .
Lady Aisha was not a "child", rather, a psychologically mature adult.
islamresponses111 1 year ago
""At the age of twenty years [he shall be] enrolled, that he may enter upon his allotted duties in the midst of his family (and) be joined to the holy congregation. He shall not [approach] a woman to know her by lying with her before he is fully twenty years old, when he shall know [good] and evil." (Messianic Rule Scroll, Dead Sea Scrolls). That dates to intertestamental times also people!
denn034 1 year ago
In your civilized country moron , if a girl turn 16 years old and she hadn't have sex then she has a problem and needs to see a psychiatrist :
there are many cases in the west where 12 years girls get pre gent from their boy friends and you consider this normal in your society !!
double standard .
no body was accused the prophet with such thing, neither the jews nor the kuffars at his time which means Aisha age was irrelevant to them idiot .
islamresponses111 2 years ago
All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Muslim appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.
Im a Deist by the way and thank you by proving all 3 religions are sick .
boondocksaint1968 2 years ago
You have no proof the age of any of these girls from the Bible .
But here is proof from youre own hadiths Mohammad was a child molester . Bukhari vol. 7, #65:
"Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was 6 years old and he consummated his marriage when she was 9 years old.
Hadith of Sahih Muslim, Vol 2, #3309
Hadith Abu Dawud, Vol. 2, #2116:
And still happens in Muslims countries to this day . but is illegal in the civilized world .
boondocksaint1968 2 years ago
So you are comparing the bible which suppose to be a divine book with hadiths which according to us are a selection of the sayings of the prophet, do you want to tell us that your bible was written by a man not a divine book !!
first of all what you have written is not hadith because the prophet did not say it it is a tradition
cont
islamresponses111 2 years ago
so you use our (Oral tradition) to insult ISLAM
Cuz of Ignorance
Now The_ Jewish oral tradition said that Rebecca was 3 years old According to Bereshit Genesis by Rabbi Rashi
,The Cristian oral tradition said that Mary was 10-11 when she was pregnant younger than this when she married Joseph who was 90 years old
So, Why there is selectivity and double standards?!!
islamresponses111 2 years ago
O HIDE THEM:
Isaac was 37 yrs at time of binding_ of Isaac. News of Rebecca's birth reached Abraham immediately after that event (Gen 22:20).
Isaac was 40 yrs old when he married Rebecca (Gen 25:20), making Rebecca 3 yrs old at time of her marriage.
in part one of this video you will find a quotation from :The Tannaïtic Midrash Sifre to Numbers 31 and Rabbi Joseph said , "Come and take note: A girl three years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
@islamresponses111 this is false interpretation of the scripture you quoted. please read it and understand it correctly before you use it
smokeybirdman 1 year ago
The age of sexual consent is still quite low in many places not only in muslim counties and i provided a link in the description section about that . In Japan, people can legally have sex at age 13, and in Spain they can legally have sex at age 12.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
A 40-year-old man having sex with a 14-year-old woman may be a "pedophile" in the USA today, but not in China today (where the age of consent is 14), nor in the USA last century. Biology is a much better standard by which to determine these things in my view, not the arbitrariness of human culture.
The Prophet's contemporaries (both enemies and friends) clearly accepted the Prophet's marriage to `Aisha without any problem. a change in culture caused the change in our times today
islamresponses111 2 years ago
In the USA last century, the age of consent was 10 years old. California was the first state to change the age of consent to 14, which it did in 1889. After California, other US states joined in and raised the age of consent too.
the Quraysh, Jews or no one ever spoke up about her age or against this marriage. So Aisha's age really has no relevance when you are trying to prove your claims that he was a pedophile or that he wasn't a prophet.
above all Aisha was engaged to a man called jobeer
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Before she married the prophet .
If marrying girls at young ages and consummating the marriage once puberty was reached was abnormal, disgusting, or sinful; Don' t you think the Quraysh would have jumped all over this? If this wasn't normal then they would have used this against him to try to prove he was not a Prophet of God.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
The Common Law age of consent was 10. The French penal code raised the age from 11 to 13 only a century ago. In England, it was only in 1929 (70 years ago) that the ancient Christian minimum age for the marriage of females, which was 12, was abandoned. The early rock and roll singer Jerry Lee Lewis was considerably older than his 13 cousin whom he married in all legality in Arkansas. Since then, the age there has been raised to 16.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Check out the links in the description section and stop repeating as a parrot what you have been taught without educating yourself from the correct sources .
islamresponses111 2 years ago
you think marraige is pedophilia !! no wonder then if you told me you do not know who is your real father !! hahaha
bastard .
islamresponses111 2 years ago
,t victimizes a child .
as I demonstrated in this video the bible never condemn pedophilia and there is even verses in the bible are may be considered to be endorse the practice.cont
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Alright I was joking with you because like I say I never really talk about Aisha thing with Muslim.
I know that Muslims some are honorable.
But, know that in the bible it says in the Christian NT, that we keep marriage bed sacred and also like Jesus has one church truly, we have only one spouse a man and a woman.
SRobacker 2 years ago
So wait are you saying that The christian Morality is the best here because of today, the christian world only place with most everyone agree even many atheist and stuff in christian world thinks its bad to do pedophile stuff?
In Muslim world many "tribal" area where people do honor killing and pedophile things.
I never was like that to say to Muslim about Aisha, but I am just answering you here.
SRobacker 2 years ago
"in christian world thinks its bad to do pedophile stuff"so you are blaming muslims of doing such an act. from your comment and your profile I understand that you are a christian so please give me the biblical text that condemn the practice of pedophilia . pedophilia is a sexually
islamresponses111 2 years ago
"In Muslim world many "tribal" area where people do honor killing and pedophile things"
Honor killings and pedophilia are not limited to muslims ,muslims seculars practice pedophilia and honor killings I ll give you an example:
,when a western couple have a fight because of some jealousy when she is cheating on her boy friend with some other man and they are getting into an argument and he kill her, what is that!! it is the same thing.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
pedophilia and honor killings are very common problem that everybody face, and blaming them on one people and one religion is not ganna solve the problem.Islam doesn't call for any such thing such as pedophilia and honor killings , and I challenge you to give me the Quranic text which allow such acts.
I urge you to see the videos in my play list.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Muslims who commit the act of pedophilia and honor killings ,simply do it because of their backward cultural tribal laws which have nothing to do Islam.the pagan arab used to bury their daughters alive because the felt shamed and wanted boys in their families to carry the legacy etc.Islam condemned this action in the quran chapter 31, verse 58-59
as for the marriage of Aisha , I have refuted this in this video , see also this video: T.I.D.F/She was 6 he was 54 -child marriage in Islam
islamresponses111 2 years ago
So, you think that it's any better that Moses caused the Israelites to have to choose between letting their people die out or marry children? When they killed all boys and all women except the children, that really leaves no choice but for the adult men to marry them, does it? So Moses caused them to commit pedophilia through his actions. Not very Godly, more sadistic.
MonkeyBallZ214 2 years ago
Ahhh! Yes! Typical Islam. Typical muslims. Two wrongs make a right. Evil begets evil and Islam is as evil as it comes. Muslims claim some moral high ground, but nastyness pours forth.
AbelMagwitch73 2 years ago
yes u go to the night club and watching your sister dancing naked infront of another man holding her boobs....so piss off
mithoauau 2 years ago
I suppose u would love to see your sister been fucked at 9 years old by a 54 year old nutcase who say he talks with angels only he can see... So piss off, child-fucker lover
skepticaldemocrat 2 years ago 2
Your bias AGAINST Islam makes U indifferent to slandering your own ancestors, & I am ready to bet they had much better sexual morals than you, and were much more sincere.
I think part one of this video is more than enough to shut your filthy mouth up
islamresponses111 2 years ago
salam alikom
mashaallah
On the right and falsehood has vanished, that the falsehood had been hidden
nabil81 2 years ago
Matthew 18:5 And he that shall receive one such little child in my name, receiveth me. 6 But he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea.
Pedophilia is cursed by God. It is the Christian version, the words of Jesus.
Zagloot 2 years ago
mylampstand 2 years ago
(u can find hundreds of videos on the internet showing child brides in islam)
You proved to us again that you either stupid or cant read properly ,I said and my comment is still here:
(If women in the Muslim World today don't have their rights, it is not because Islaam did not give them to them. The problem is that in many places alien traditions have come to overshadow the teachings of Islaam, either through ignorance or the impact of Colonialisation.)
islamresponses111 2 years ago
I dont have time to waste with brain washed ignorant bye
islamresponses111 2 years ago
You think marriage is raping , then I wouldnt be surprised if you tell me that you dont know your real father is.
Do you think I am sitting her just to answer your stupid questions that were refuted many times and I gave you the names of muslims videos regarding women right in islam but you do not want to be educated ,
islamresponses111 2 years ago
you have been taught that islam is bad and you do not want to accept the truth .
Do not mix up between Islam and traditions .what some muslims do in Africa or afganistan have nothing to do with the real teachings of Islam.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
You are a liar!
Don't listen to the lies propagated to you by Islamophobic bigots!
Hazrat Aisha (RA) was 18-23 when she was married!
Video: tXaw9UZlK_I
Who is the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) really?
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is the most HONEST, RIGHTEOUS, PIOUS, KIND, SINCERE, HANDSOME, HUMBLE, JUST, SMART, MERCIFUL, AND HONOURABLE PERSON AND CREATION OF ALLAH.
The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the greatest of Allah's creation.
He is most gentle and pure of Allah's creation!
xtremeownage2 2 years ago
Who's a liar
Bukhari kept 1% of the hadiths he collected.
The sole purpose of the koran
Is 2create a world where men have Absolute Power & Women have Absolutely None.
Women are only respected in islam if they are prepared to relinquish all their free will 2 all men.
Punishment 4 Women refusing 2give up their free will,
Can lead to a family or community who will Ridicule, Harass, Imprison, Ostracise or commit Violence towards the woman, & sometimes ends with them MURDERING HER.
mylampstand 2 years ago
mylampstand,
your comment has nothing to do with this video, there are many videos on youtube have already refuted your copy-past argument such as:
1-Are Muslim Women Oppressed in Islam? you can find in in (investigateislamdumy s account) and
2-women 's rights in Islam
islamresponses111 2 years ago
My comment is 2 do with ur video & r not copy & paste but written by myself & r my own conclusions on ur koran
What u suggest in ur video ..is who r we 2 question a god if a 9yr old child is capable of getting pregnant ..then lets do it & the only reason y u don't is because u live in the west & they won't let u
A child is not allowed the free will in islam 2say no i don't want sex with a 50yr old
WHAT U NEVER SAY IS
SHALL WE ASK THE 9 YR OLD WHAT SHE WANTS 2 DO
IT NEVER CROSSED UR MIND
mylampstand 2 years ago
mylampstand,
I have replied before on this issue ,what exactly are you talking about proving your inability to read propely.what is further absurd is that, you further tried to make an emotional appeal to women s rights to redeem yourself but ultimately it doent absolve you from error..
repeating things doesnt make your argument look any convincing but some sort of attempt of yours to give yourself some re assurance
islamresponses111 2 years ago
lets explain again:
The narrations attributed to Hisham ibn Urwa state Aisha (R) was married at nine years old. But other narrations explicitly contradict this fact. For example, Tabari himself states that Aisha (R) was born in the pre-Islamic period, which in itself, renders the age of nine absurd, because the age of the Meccan period was 13 years. Further, Tabari also records that Aisha (R) was engaged prior to the Prophet (S) to the daughter of a leading unbeliever, .
islamresponses111 2 years ago
and the engagement was broken off when Islam came. Abu Bakr (S) was one of the very first members of Islam, so to say his daughter was engaged at what would amount to 1 or 2 years old is about as absurd as it gets. , age wasn't something they calculated with precision. Most ancient socieities didn't normally record ages either.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
and I said before:
The Quraysh were always persecuting Prophet Muhammad (saw). They were looking for ANY reason to disqualify him as a Prophet and Messenger of God. They were on the constant look out to prove the man was a fraud.
If marrying girls at young ages and consummating the marriage once puberty was reached was abnormal, disgusting, or sinful; Don' t you think the Quraysh would have jumped all over this?
islamresponses111 2 years ago
If this wasn't normal then they would have used this against him to try to prove he was not a Prophet of God. The fact remains that the Quraysh, Jews or no one ever spoke up about her age or against this marriage. So Aisha's age really has no relevance when you are trying to prove your claims that he was a pedophile or that he wasn't a prophet.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
mylampstand 2 years ago
(I DO NOT WANT TO MARRY)!!
The Prophet said, "A matron should not be given in marriage except after consulting her; and a virgin should not be given in marriage except after her permission." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! How can we know her permission?" He said, "Her silence (indicates her permission)."
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Islam gives great respect to women and their role in society; it gives them the right to own property, marry who they want and many other rights.
Women have the right to inherit property and to have their marriage dissolved in the case of neglect or mistreatment Actually, the rights that Islaam gave to women over 1400 years ago were almost unheard of in the West until the 1900's.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Less than fifty years ago in England and America, a woman could not buy a house or car without the co-signature of her father or husband!
If women in the Muslim World today don't have their rights, it is not because Islaam did not give them to them. The problem is that in many places alien traditions have come to overshadow the teachings of Islaam, either through ignorance or the impact of Colonialisation.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Now , read about Islam from its sources ,not from haters sources .
I dont have time to respond on all your old false allegations against Islam.
you can see the web sites in my profile , if you want to learn about islam, if you just want to close your brain and keep repeating then bye. find another page
islamresponses111 2 years ago
What happened to you guys before the 1920's which is in the freakin 20th century when women were treated like property and Muslim women had MANY MANY MANY more rights than any "Western" woman? Now, you think just because feminism is so prevalent and Lesbianism, Adultery, Fornication, Clad clothing are OK in Western cultures, you can come and change Islam to mend to your ways?
nowornever86 2 years ago
quote
& the parents gave aisha to mohammed
i thought a marriage was between 2 consenting people who understood what was required of them in marriage
& a contract was signed
Tell me what 6 yr old would understand the full meaning of a contract at that age.
What would a 6 yr know about sex .How can a 6yr old sign a contract without understanding the implications
Imagine a 54 year old man lying on a 9 yr old girl
I think i want to be sick.
Infact u trying 2 justify this act makes me sick.
u r sick
mylampstand 2 years ago
mylampstand,
First of all we dont have any verse in the Quran states clearly the age of Aisha when she get married ,all we have is a tradition is not even hadith because hadith is saying of prophet Muhammad and there wasn't a birthday certificate at that time
anyway,there is disagreement among muslims regarding her age. but even if she was 9 years age when she married the prophet
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Hadiths
Bukhari ..collected over 700.000 hadiths over 40yrs..this is over 200 yrs after mohammeds death
Out of 700,000 hadiths he accepted only 7000 as being true & believed the other 693,000 were fake ..That means he only kept 1% of the hadiths he found .How do we know the 1% he kept are anymore true than the one's he rejected
No one knows..we can't judge them by the ones he rejected ..where are they & if a wife curses her husband the koran says she goes 2hell so who wud criticise there husband
mylampstand 2 years ago
some other scholars calculated her age from The Battles of Badr and Uhud
Ibn `Umar states that the Prophet did not permit me to
participate in Uhud, as at that time, I was 14 years old. But on the day of
Khandaq, when I was 15 years old, the Prophet permitted my participation.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Based on the above narratives,
- the children below 15 years were sent
-back and were not allowed to participate in the Battle of Uhud, and Ayesha participated in the Battles of Badr and Uhud
they have concluded:
Ayeshas participation in the Battles of Badr and Uhud
clearly indicates that she was not nine years old but at least 15 years old.
I told you , even if she was 9 when she married the prophet
islamresponses111 2 years ago
no one has criticized the prophet back then when he married her,
imagine if I try to apply 1908's standards today; you will find a lot of things acceptable then that arent now and vice versa. So what about 1429 years before?!! This is a typical your mentality of being unfair all the way.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Omar ibn Alaktab married Othman s daughter and he was mush older than her,
in the bible ,it is evident that as Abraham (who then had the name Abram) was 86 years old, Hagar must have been some fifty years younger than him, and probably even younger, to bear a child. Secondly, the Bible speaks of Sarai giving her maidservant Hagar to Abraham. So Hagars consent was not obtained but rather she was commanded by Sarai to go and become Abrahams wife.
agin marriage at young age is common back then
islamresponses111 2 years ago
The marriage in any society is covered by "traditions" and there is no restrictions on the age of the woman in any religion and it's very clear from the history that no one accused the prophet (Pease be upon him) of getting married to Aisha by Qouraish or by the Jews in Madina. This accusation appeared during the 20th century when the average age of a married woman increased. On the other hand, you allow young girls to have relationships with boyfriend outside marriage!!!
islamresponses111 2 years ago
The only condition Islam puts for a woman to get married is not her age (which is not a fair measurement because people in the same age may differ largely). But Islam put a very fair condition which is not age-dependant that the woman is capable of getting married physiologically and physiologically.
I have posted in my video , websites forA 9-year old Thai girl gave birth andA 12-year old Christian girl getting married in Romania according to cnn so
islamresponses111 2 years ago
A 6yr old girl is not by anyone's imagination
A WOMAN
A 6yr old cannot agree 2marry anyone becus they wud not as yet have acquired the intelligence 2 understand the consequences of sex & marriage
Wud u let a 6yr old old buy a car &drive it away
A child reaching the age of puberty is a child going through a physical & mental process of change & is a process which takes 8yrs
Beginning this process does not make them ready for sex ,pregnancy or marriage.
Why wud grown men want sex with children
mylampstand 2 years ago
She was 9 and some traditions say she was 11 when she married the prophet not 6. apparently you didnt watch the video .and you didnt read my replies or you are slow.
there are many fake hadith that is true but there are many ways to distinguish between authentic and unauthentic hadith ,like following the chain of narrators if there is a break in it then the hadith is false
islamresponses111 2 years ago
(A child reaching the age of puberty is a child going through a physical & mental process of change & is a process which takes 8yrs
Beginning this process does not make them ready for sex ,pregnancy or marriag)
the answer of this is in the video, watch the whole parts
and see the links in my video description
islamresponses111 2 years ago
I told you , there is disagreement among muslims scholars regarding her age read my previous comment again.
some muslims compare between her age and the death of her sister Asma .According to Ibn Kathir: She [Asma] was elder to her sister [Ayesha] by 10
years
according to their views:
, Asma, the elder sister of Ayesha was
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Asma, the elder sister of Ayesha was
10 years older than Ayesha. If Asma was 100 years old in 73 AH, she should
have been 27 or 28 years old at the time of the hijrah.
If Asma was 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah, Ayesha should have
been 17 or 18 years old.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Aisha was already engaged to a non Muslim man named Jober Ibn Al-Moteam Ibn Oday. Back then, the people of Mecca did not object to Aisha's engagement to Jober because she was physically big enough and tall enough to be considered for marriage. Her parents saw that and they engaged her to Jober.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
according to catholic encyclopedia the mother of Jesus .she was between 11-14 years old when she conceived Jesus. Mary had already been "BETROTHED" to Joseph before conceiving Jesus. Joseph was a much older man.he was 90 years old . therefore Mary was younger than 11-14 years of age when she was "BETHROED" to Joseph.
we muslims never call her marriage to Joseph sick nor would we refer to the "Holy Ghost" of the Bible, that "Impregnated" Mary as a "Rapist" or "Adulterer
islamresponses111 2 years ago
There are many hadith have been narrated by Aisha describing her love to the prophet .
I advice you to read about Islam from its sources .
what is really sick is living like an animal and sleeping with every young girl you meet
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Bukhari rejected 99% of the hadiths he found = 693,000 rejected
How does anyone know the 1% he kept are true hadiths ..do u know if they are not fake .
How did he decide which were true & which were fake ..Did he keep the ones he liked & rejected the ones he didn't like
How did he decide.
They could all be fake..what got rejected is of more interest than the ones he kept
A woman choosing a partner to live or sleep with when she is ready & on her own terms should be acceptable by all societies.
mylampstand 2 years ago
Those figures about BUKHARI are a MYTH!!
please do your Math 700,000 hadith in 16 years.. see what figures you come up with.. he wrote down what he found. that is it!! he did no RESEARCH.. NO EVALUATIONs.. NOHTHING!!
QuranVsHadith 2 years ago
Things are obviously different FOURTEEN HUNDRED years ago! It was a completely different society, a different world. Stop looking at it from the eyes of someone living in the 21st century.
Thank you.
nowornever86 2 years ago
(you would be killed for leaving islam)
who told you that
there is no verse in the Quran says that, God says(There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error)
but in Christianity we find this thing in the bible :
(Deuteronomy 13
( 6If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, cont1
islamresponses111 2 years ago
entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; 7Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; 8Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
islamresponses111 2 years ago
9But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.10And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. 11And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.etc
read your own bible Mr ;ignorant
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Just a few weeks ago I read in the news that in Iran a 9-year-old girl filed for divorce from her 15-year-old husband just after 20 days of marriage because he would constantly beat her. When the young man was questioned he said: �She neglects her housework and plays with her dolls all the time�.
cairnswc 2 years ago
The criteria for marriageable age of a woman includes Psychological maturity also .
if the girl was not matured then her parents should not have married her.
But your post means that husband and wife had no problem with marital relations ; although both were young .
Most of the time issue is raised about physical maturity !
farzanatasneem 2 years ago
The marriage at 6 or 7 was MARRIAGE CONTRACT . she didnt come to live with holy Prophet (pbuh) before maturity.
So no question of thighing before maturity.
marriage of Lady Aisha with holy Prophet was ordained by Allah through Angel Jibreel, who showed her photo to holy Prophet saying"This is your wife"
At 6 Aisha (RA) was engaged with another man and her engagement was broken with the permission of that man and marriage contract was made with Holy Prophet , peace be upon him .
farzanatasneem 2 years ago 2
This video confirms what I have heard... that Arabs went around the black stone (which looks like a woman's vagina) naked while worshipping their idols. And today Muslims still go around the black stone naked under a single sheet like piece of clothing. They are today going around this same stone remembering the nakedness of the idolaters. This reveals that Islam is idolatry with a mask on it. Muslims are still practicing the same ritual as their pagan ancestors.
ofthehighest 2 years ago
ofthehighest,the story of building al-kaba you can find it in many sites and videos in youtube such as this one:The Sacrificed-Ishmael 1/2
as for your dirty imagination that the black stone looks like women vagina, I am not surprised since the unholy book and song of songs which you believe is the word of God feed your imaginations with these dirty stuff since your God himself was glorifying women vagina and says women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine"(Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9
islamresponses111 2 years ago
You put your nose in other people's religions but you don't like it when people expose the truth about Islam being a religion from Satan using God to wage war with all non Muslims
The Quran told you the Bibles of 2 religions were falsified by a man who didn't know the languages of the Bibles
Both the Jews and Christians rejected him because they knew he was a false prophet so he slaughtered them, proving it all the more that he was false
Your thoughts about the Bible mean nothing to me
BonjourNuit111 2 years ago
Who put his nose in other people religions are your perverted missionaries who attack islam in order to stop christians from converting to it,( islam is a religion of Satan)!! don't think we will keep silence
your ignorance and arrogance is amazing! The word Islam means peace. Mohammed pbuh and the Quran speak of the same morals that Jesus did. In fact, Islam embraces Jesus, Mary, Abraham, Moses, and all of the other people that Christians and Jews worship and pray to.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
.But the bible disgraces them by making them fornicators, idolators and liars. i can say who wrote the bible is Satan and I can prove that to you . in fact I have already proved that in my videos .
The main difference is that Islam only worships God, the same God as the Christians and Jews, and views everyone else and messengers of God just as Mohammed pbuh was.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
It is your kind of ignorance and hatred that causes all the pain and suffering in the world. At least try to educate yourself before sputtering hateful and ignorant rhetoric. there are many web sites and videos have refuted all your missionaries false allegations against Islam ,
islamresponses111 2 years ago
for example: brother easyonetwothree has already refuted your lie in his videoM
(Quran From Satan? According to Jesus thats Absurd!!)
and brother naliakbar also has refuted this lie in his videoM
(Re: Evil Islam created by satan (the devil))
you can find them in my favorites
islamresponses111 2 years ago
I can say also.christianity and jowdaism are idolatry and their followers are worshiping and bowing to icons , jesus and marry statues and wall.there are many videos shows the identical relation between modern christianity and Pagan.such asChristianity is Pagan.( made by:manhornz)
you see bashing is easy and all your false allegations .I could fire them back to you)
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Muhammad was the founder of a religion that invaded much of the world through violence
He married a 6 year old child and took her to the marriage bed when she was 9 years old and God would never use such a man to guide men to truth
Islam is a religion of war against all non believers especially Jews and Christians because they knew he was a false prophet so he slaughtered them
The Quran states hate the non believer, see them as evil, kill them where you find them 4 Islam is from Satan
BonjourNuit111 2 years ago
Muhammad pbuh marriage with Aisha has been refuted in this video and in many other videos such as:
(Prophet Muhammad and Aisha 1/3) mad by brother,muhaddithORG,
and it's very clear from the history that no one accused the prophet (Pease be upon him) of getting married to Aisha by Qouraish or by the Jews in Madina and she was engaged to a man named Aljobeer before she married the prophet .
islamresponses111 2 years ago
but why you didn't reject the marriage of your man god mother with 90 years old man when she was only 12 years old!! this is called hypocrisy , anyway there is no quranic verse has mentioned her age nor hadith( prophet sayings) there is only one tradition about her age
islamresponses111 2 years ago
(Your God had chosen fornicators and killers to Guide men to truth Mr ;ignorant . actually , christianity is the religion of war against non believers and I proved that in my video:(Muhammad & Terror P1/3-Osama Abdullah-investigateislam)
It is ok if you are ignorant , it is fine with me to educate you more about your bloody bible
islamresponses111 2 years ago
I advice you to read about the terror in the bible such as :
Deuteronomy
Chapter 2 32-37, Deuteronomy Chapter 3 1-7, Deuteronomy Chapter 7 1-6, Deuteronomy Chapter 13 6-18,
there is more if you like. you should have no problem with these verses from OT since its the same God, so hence if the God of the OT said kill then it means Jesus said kill because he has no God. So you have no way out of this mess.
actually Paul himself complimented the prophets who fought with the sward
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Paul message to Hebrews 11(32And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets: 33Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions. 34Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.)
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Instead of facing the Quran and its teachings, you are trying to justify its hatred and violence against Non Muslims and Muslims by distracting your own attention to the Bible that you can never understand nor accept because Muhammd told you the bible of the Jews and Christians was falsified that ends your ability to ever comprehend the Bible
Put your big nose back into the Quran and question it because God is real and is with all people on earth but He is not Satan and only Islam is from Satan
BonjourNuit111 2 years ago
You are repeating the same arguments which I have already replied on that proves you have no argument and I do not have more time to waste with brain washed idiot like you, bye
islamresponses111 2 years ago
I am not in a mess, you are because your religion began with a false prophet who proved it by his contradictions, his hatred and violence using God
You are here defending a Paedophile and mass murderer who was greedy for the spoils of war and female slaves
who lied about Jesus, and who used Jesus to endorse himself
Paul is not Jesus
I adhere only to what Jesus said although I respect Paul for converting Turkey and Greece to Christianity without bloodshed and he died for Christianity
BonjourNuit111 2 years ago
(my religion began with a false prophet) Jews as well believe that Jesus is a false prophet and according to them he is bastard, they call him son of Pandera( the Romanian soldier who claimed to be slept with his mother) event-though Jesus had sent to them and they had seen his miracles that is why they treated him as a liar and as a false prophet and they decided to crucify him , they even called him satan and Satan was his friend , read Mathew12:23-25
islamresponses111 2 years ago
its title:
(The Bible allows rape, slavery, the sex trade, and murder!)
in salam752's account
I advice you again , not to throw stones since your house is made of brittle glass and see the planks in your eyes as Jesus commanded you
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Mathew 12(24But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.25And Jesus knew their thoughts,) I am going to ask you the same question
You are her to defend your man God himself the biggest pedophile and mass murder .
I disgrace you and Paul because he teaches you to be hypocrite like him.
female slaves , raping and killing women is in your bible and I have made a video about that , its title:
islamresponses111 2 years ago
God came to sinners beginning with Abraham
God took a tiny nation that joined Africa, Asia and Europe
3 religions come from this area not because the people were holy but because they were evil to help them decrease human sufferings
You are wrong to say Christianity is a religion of war, had you said Christians waged war, you would be correct
You cannot educate me on my Bible when I accept it and you do not
Educate yourself that God is not both good and Satan and only Islam is from Satan
BonjourNuit111 2 years ago
The Quran doesn't state hate liar , there are many videos asI said before had already debunked this lie long time ago such as:
(Jihad's meaning & misunderstood Quranic text part 1/6) in salam752 's account . but if you read your own bible which I doubt you will find the punishments that the God of the Bible will do to his people if they dont follow him are:
1- God will cause his people to murdered and massacared, and they will flee in all directions.
2-
islamresponses111 2 years ago
2- People will beget children but will not be able to enjoy them because they will be sent into slavery.
3- People's children shall be given to other people and the parents will wish they could have them back but they wont.
4- cannabilism, yes cannabilism! 53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee
islamresponses111 2 years ago
5- God will send diseases to the people
6- You will get married, and your wife will sleep with other men
these what the Christian God will do as a punishment to those who wouldnt follow him!!!
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Read this bloody disgusting verse for example:(Numbers
Chapter 31 7-12
And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males. 8 And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword. 9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones..
islamresponses111 2 years ago
You have to give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's.
Caesar was an oppressor who made the laws and people bowed down to him in fear, for Caesar is man warring with his brothers for domination
Whereas God created the universe without slaves or humankind, he created nature in harmony and little babies who are innocent and good
God is only Good
I know the Jewish Testament and it took me years to learn to separate Jewish history from God's compassionate nature
BonjourNuit111 2 years ago
God warns people of war and its consquence, war is man made
To accuse God of slaughtering people through soldiers is adding satan before God
Humankind is responsible for all human sufferings and injustices on earth and Islam as a religion contributes to both sufferings and injustices using God
When Muhammad said when you slaughter it is not you but God who is slaughters through you, Muhammad added Satan before God
and casted blame and responsibilty onto God when only Muhammad was to blame
BonjourNuit111 2 years ago
Islam is hatred, to teach wage war with the non believer as is your neighbour is hatred
To wage War requires hatred as the fuel used to innocent slaughter people
Terrorist attacks requires hatred and ignorance
If all non Muslims are seen as enemies, then they are hated
You don't need the word"hatred" but the words wage war against non believers your enemies these words are hatred
When you are taught to reject the Bible of your enemies
then you can never understand the Bible's teachings
BonjourNuit111 2 years ago
Using your own criteria against you this makes their God a false violent God. So you should not throw stones if you live in a glass house.
The Quran does not say kill women and children, I CHALLENGE YOU AND ANY CHRISTIAN TO BRING THE VERSE RIGHT NOW. .
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Note the words you used, you wrote:
using your own criteria against you
You asked for a challenge to bring a verse from the Quran that states slaughter women and Children
Islam is also composed of the Hadith books which were written in Abrabic and just as guarded as the Quran
The Hadith is used alongside the Quran to form the Islamic Theocratic Sharia Government laws that dominate Muslim nations.
Aisha testified in the Hadith that she has never seen women suffer as much as believing women
BonjourNuit111 2 years ago
(Aisha testified in the Hadith that she has never seen women suffer as much as believing women)
please post the hadith and its number.
note:
as I said before , all of your missionaries couldn't find anything in the Quran to disgrace muslims with that is why they either inventing lies or looking for weak and false hadith. and you just proved my point
pathetic looser .
islamresponses111 2 years ago
pathetic looser .
would you like me to Quote for you from the gospel of philip which says that Jesus had married marry Majdulain and was kissing her from the lip , or the gospel of Jacob which says Marry ( Jesus mother got fingered into her vagina to examine her virginity etc. . do you accept that .
My challenge was to give me a single verse from the Quran not from a false hadith
islamresponses111 2 years ago
You asked for proof in the Quran of the murdering of women and children
While it is known in some hadith that Muhammd prohibited the murder of women and children, he gave exceptions
as with a woman laughing histerically was beheaded, as with a breast feeding woman was blungoned to death for insulting Muhammad
The world witnessed the slaughter of 300Chechen school children and Mothers in 1994 by Muslims and Honour killing kills children and women and is practiced world wide by Muslims
BonjourNuit111 2 years ago
( as with a breast feeding woman was blungoned to death for insulting Muhammad)!the source of this story is invalid. Not because the source is weak, but because there is no source!
there is no evidence what so ever for this story of killing women because there is no narration or source given. It was contrary to the teachings of the Quran and the Prophet's character. Therefore, you have to stop using this.
Thank you for proving my point
islamresponses111 2 years ago
The Holy Quran is our divine book. but Hadith is a collection of prophet Muahmmad sayings and there are many gossips and lies have been added to prophet s companions that is why there are many false hadiths exactly as the apocryphal bibles but the difference between them that we can distinguish between hadith from following the chain of the narrators and many other factors
islamresponses111 2 years ago
, but what is your criteria to reject the apocryphal bibles !!
when you compare your bible with false hadith you prove to us again that your bible is like these hadith is false and wasn't a divine book
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Sura 5:33 the recompense of those who war against God and his apostle and go about to commit disorders on the earth shall be slain or crucified or have their alternate hands and feet cut off
This sura is applied today in both Sudan and Serra Leon against even children
TV footage shows little babies, and children with both hands cut off,
Tell me how these little ones wage war against God Almighty and the dead apostle Muhammad?
BonjourNuit111 2 years ago
Sura 5:33
(The only punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is that they should be murdered, or crucified, or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides, or they should be imprisoned. This shall be a disgrace for them in this world, and in the Hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement.)
The punishment, el castigo, was due to the mischief that the enemies of Islam were committing on the Muslims. .
islamresponses111 2 years ago
This was a death sentence to those who were raping the Muslim women and children. That is what is referred to here as mischief in the land.
This has nothing to do with children ,My question is where do you get your information that this verse in the Qur'an, which you quote very often refers to children or even on any other faith . send me this tv shows you are talking about (my dead apostle)
dont forget that your man god had died for 3 days idiot and satan never die !!!
islamresponses111 2 years ago
[47:4] If you encounter (in war) those who disbelieve, you may strike the necks.
I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them. Qur'an 8:12
Strike off the heads of the disbelievers and after making a wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives. Qur'an 47:4.
This applied to the Jews in which the men were slaughtered and the children sold off as slaves and slavery is worse than death
BonjourNuit111 2 years ago
I have posted many videos to you which have already explained these Quranic verses which you have misquoted them and you still repeating the same argument!! i am going to explain one verse because I dont have time to waste with a blind hater like you.
verse 8:12: becomes clear if you read the whole verse and do not take it out of its context , it says:
islamresponses111 2 years ago
verse8:12 When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
([9]: Lo! You were praying unto your Sustainer for aid, whereupon He thus responded to you: I shall, verily, aid you with a thousand angels following one upon another!
cont 1
islamresponses111 2 years ago
([10]: And God ordained this only as a glad tiding, and that your hearts should thereby be set at rest - since no succour can come from any save God: verily, God is almighty, wise!
[11]: [Remember how it was] when He caused inner calm to enfold you, as an assurance from Him, and sent down upon you water from the skies, so that He might purify you thereby and free you from Satans unclean whisperings and strengthen your hearts and thus make firm your steps.)
cont2
islamresponses111 2 years ago
([12]: Lo! Thy Sustainer inspired the angels [to convey this His message to the believers]: I am with you! [And He commanded the angels:] And give firmness unto those who have attained to faith (with these words from Me I shall cast terror into the hearts of those who are bent on denying the truth; strike, then, their necks, and strike off every one of their finger-tips. [emphasis added])
islamresponses111 2 years ago
The verse is clearly speaking about the events surrounding the Battle of Badr. It is not a general command to strike at the necks of the infidels. Anyone with an understanding of the history of Islam knows this. When I read these verses, I know that they refer to the Battle of Badr. No where in my mind is there even an inkling of a thought to strike at the necks of the infidels.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
the Battle of Badr, the first major battle between the Muslims and the Meccan pagans around 625 C.E. A little background is in order.
2- verse:(47:4)
you quoted only part of the verse out of context and this is proves either you are ignorant and just using copy past or you know the rest of the verse but try to mislead others
islamresponses111 2 years ago
the verse says:
(Now when you meet [in war] those who are bent on denying the truth (commonly translated as the infidels") smite their necks until you overcome them fully, and then tighten their bonds; but thereafter [set them free] either by an act of grace or against ransom, so that the burden of war may be lifted: thus [shall it be]. cont1
islamresponses111 2 years ago
. And [know that] had God so willed, He could indeed punish them [Himself]; but [He wills you to struggle] so as to test you [all] by means of one another. And as for those who are slain in Gods cause, never will He let their deeds go to waste. verse (47:4)
islamresponses111 2 years ago
This verse, like 8:12, is speaking about the believers conduct in an open battle against the enemy. God is psyching up the believers before a battle, just like American soldiers psych themselves up before they go into combat. It is not an open call to behead all infidels. Once again, when the verse is understood in its context, this becomes obviously clear.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
In fact, the verse actually is one of mercy toward the enemy. After the battle is over, during which the believers are to smite their necks, the verse directs the believers to set free those who are captured by the Muslims, either by an act of grace or against ransom. These captives are avowed enemies, who would have killed the believers if they had the chance. Despite this, however, the verse directs the Muslims to set them free. How, in Gods Most Holy Name, can this verse be one of terror
islamresponses111 2 years ago
But, you know, anyone can misquote, mistranslate, or quote out of context a verse of scripture to seemingly prove a point. This has been done with the Biblical text for centuries to justify such things as slavery and racism. Muslim terrorists do the exact same thing with the Quran to justify their heinous acts of murder. But just because they do so, it does not mean the Quran is therefore violent
islamresponses111 2 years ago
We see it in your Bible, one of your greatest prophets killing women and children by God's permission, meaning Jesus allowed it! So hence Jesus was responsible for killing women and children, and so was Moses so according to our own argument, Moses cannot be a prophet since he killed.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
You compare Moses and Jesus to Muhammad
Moses was called by God to free the Jews from Egyptian slavery
He was violent as was the global custom of 3450 years ago
Jesus was called to fulfill the prophecies fortold of him which he did
Jesus never slaughtered anyone instead he raised 3 from the dead, fed the poor and cured the sick
but Muhammad taught hatred and war against Jews and Christians
Only Muhammad had sex with a child Aisha which itself is proof he was a false prophet
BonjourNuit111 2 years ago
Moses and his soldiers didn't kill women and kids by himself ,The Jewish soldiers were commanded by God in the bible to keep the woman children (little girls) for themselves! In addition, they commanded to kill every woman that hath know a man by lying with him. How these soldiers in those days know if the girls are virgin or not? Simply they verify it by raping them and if the Jews discovered that they are non-virgins then they kill them as they commanded by God
the prove: read:
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Numbers 31: 25-40
25. And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
26. Take the sum of the prey that was taken, both of man and of beast, thou, and Eleazar the priest, and the chief fathers of the congregation:
27. And divide the prey into two parts; between them that took the war upon them, who went out to battle, and between all the congregation:
28. And levy a tribute unto the LORD of the men of war which went out to battle: one soul of five hundred, both of the persons, cont 1
islamresponses111 2 years ago
(28. And levy a tribute unto the LORD of the men of war which went out to battle: one soul of five hundred, both of the persons,(including the little girls) and of the beeves, and of the asses, and of the sheep:
29. Take it of their half, and give it unto Eleazar the priest, for an heave offering of the LORD.
30. And of the children of Israel's half, thou shalt take one portion of fifty, of the persons(including the little girls), of the beeves, of the asses, and of the flocks, cont2
islamresponses111 2 years ago
(35. And thirty and two thousand persons in all, of women that had not known man by lying with him.
36. And the half, which was the portion of them that went out to war, was in number three hundred thousand and seven and thirty thousand and five hundred sheep)
(40. And the persons(including little girls) were sixteen thousand; of which the LORD'S tribute was thirty and two persons.(preteen girls))
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Note:
1- In the verse 35 we are told that Jews caught as booty 32.000 preteen girls for themselves.
2-The verse 40 is to dedicate the little girls (of women that had not known man by lying with him-32 of them)
toGod! As God, himself commanded above that wants these preteen girls. Indeed clear perversion, God in the bible want for himself 32 little girls, why? Maybe to do what his soldiers(Jews)to the innocent little girls.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Therefore Bible by saing that LORD'S tribute was thirty and two persons.(preteen girls) actually demonstrate the Pedophilic nature of the biblical God . Shame to the Bible and Shame to you and to its followers. .
islamresponses111 2 years ago
So when we hear from the media, Priests(Christians and Jews-majority of Christians) that rape and molest young preteen boys and girls, we must not be surprised because these are the teachings from their Holy Book the Bible, as clearly demonstrated from the Verses : Numbers 31: 25-40.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Jesus never allowed killing of anyone
He stopped stoning of aduterers, he protected women in monoganous marriages,he defended the rights of children which at his time was contraversial for he even taught women sacred knowledge which was unheard of in his time
When Jesus was arrested and Peter pulled out a sword cutting the ear of a soldier, Jesus stopped it and he was said to heal the ear wound
Jesus fought against oppression, he fought against the religious leaders that oppressed people
BonjourNuit111 2 years ago
Yah you are right, Jesus never killed any one but he just ordered his prophets to do so !!!, in the NT ,
Luke 19 (27But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.)
So did Jesus slaughter his enemies with a loving sword!!!
Remember Jesus ordered his followers to buy swords. Luke 22-6
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Luke 22 Jesus said to his followers in
luke 22 (6Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one)
did they buy these swords to play with them hockey for example
islamresponses111 2 years ago
He forbade the Jews from stoning women who committed adultery so if she committed another adultery would Jesus forgive her again? Dont you think that Jesus encourages adultery by doing so!! And he breaks Moses low .that is why idolaters and idolatress use this verse a lot to justify their adultery
islamresponses111 2 years ago
You said the prophet slaughtered christians and jews ha ha ha, prove to us that they was christians in Arabian Peninsula,
reject these bloody verses from your holy book and then come talk with us ok
islamresponses111 2 years ago
You asked for proof if there were Christians(or Jews) in Saudi Arabia. They were slaughtered in the time of Muhammad and since then forbidden to live there
Then ask what is the Dome of the Rock doing in Jerusalem?
If you have any honesty in you, you will reply Muslims invaded Israel and all the Christian Middle East, Northern Africa, Asia, and all that are Muslim nations( except Indoasia) to this day were forced conversion to Islam based on the instructions of both the Quran and Hadith
BonjourNuit111 2 years ago
I asked you to prove that there were christians in arabic
peninsula. I know that
Jews were a part of the Islamic society living in Madienah, where they used to live with Muslims as one family, the prophet (PBUH) gave them all rights of citizenship just the same given to every Muslim. He did not kick them out, or burned them, or seized their properties as the church's Popes or the European Kings did
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Beside this, the Prophet (PBUH) held with them a protection and safety convention, in which both parties (Muslims & Jews) were obliged to protect each other in case any harm or danger menaced them.
But the Jews contacted secretly the enemies of the Prophet (PBUH) and provoked them to fight against him, and offered them all forms of support.
islamresponses111 2 years ago
Here we get surprised by a very ridiculous and strange attitude, when we realize that you denied your religion (OT)- that contains the idea of unification and orders to fight polytheism and paganism exactly like ISLAM
islamresponses111 2 years ago
The Jew had rules and laws governing ancient Israel which was confined to them during the period 3450 years ago until 70 A.D.
They do not stone adulterers, Muslims do
Muslims have a violent religion targeted at conquering the world
When non Muslims tell Muslims this then Muslims resort to tossing in the Bible as if it was the same as the Quran which it isn't
Jews never invaded the Middle East forcing people to convert to Judaism
They were strict within their own national boundaries
BonjourNuit111 2 years ago
Jews never invaded the middle east so what they have been doing in Palestine, dont tell me it is their land because refuting this lie is very easy from the bible and history, Jews consider themselves as God chosen nations and look down to non jews ,they consider christians and their church as pig fold, They are racists and of course they do not want filthy uncircumcised person to be jewish
islamresponses111 2 years ago
It is a false accusation that the Jews contracted secretly enemies because the Jews had weapons to defend themselves against even Muhammad and his men but the Jews went weaponless before Muhammad as they did not want to wage war alongside Muhammad in order to slaughter their own neighbours and so Muhammad killed them
For in war, those who do not fight for you are seen to fight against you
God has no part in such battles
BonjourNuit111 2 years ago
Muslims were Not like the Jews in unifying and fighting polytheism and paganism
It is one thing to have done so in Saudi Arabia but even Muhammad invaded Syria and elsewhere against people who believed in ONE God, forcing All the Middle East to convert to Islam( and the Last to fall was Lebanon now all that is left is Israel) For they say first come Saturday then comes Sunday
Sura 16:125 was in the beginning
then it became sura 9:29 make war upon those to whom the scriptures were given
BonjourNuit111 2 years ago
Muhammad chased 2 Jewish tribes away but the third, he falsely accused them of breaking a treaty, he beheaded all 600 boys and men, then sold their girls as slaves, one prize of the booty was his third wife, Sofia
The reason he slaughtered the third tribe was he needed the spoils of war and female slaves to reward his soldiers
Wars is deception which he admitted
Wars were made for domination
and what better excuse then to impose a newly invented religion that Made Muhammad a partner to God
BonjourNuit111 2 years ago
the jewish who live in Palestine they are newly converted to judaism ,their ancestors never lived in Saudi Arabia nor in Palestine If Islam was spread by the sword, it was the sword of intellect and convincing arguments. It is this sword that conquers the hearts and minds of people. The Quran says in this connection:
Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. (Quran 16:125