There is something idiotic about new-age "seekers" forgetting that human beings are, in essence, cagey self-centered opportunists who will take any advantage of you they can to make cash and gain power. "Seeking" isn't airy-fairy acceptance of a knife in your gut. "Seeking" is trying to figure out this world we live in. Basically, new-age "seekers," if a stranger offers you candy, don't take it just because they are smiling and will take your money for it.
Look, im very offended and very sad at the same time. What is wrong with this picture. Anglos need to find their own way of communicating to spirit, I find it appaling that they feel native, your not. I was invited to a pipe ceremony and was shocked because the pipe ceremony was being done by anglos,happy to say I walked out.I will not dis honor my brothers. GET YOUR OWN CULTURE NOT OURS.U STOLE R LAND KILLED ARE PEOPLE NOW YOU WANT TO PLAY INDIAN WAKE UP. LONE WOLF/AZTECA
I feel sadness for the people that lost their lives. I would like to state that one does not charge for a sweat lodge, if fee is mentioned run even if it is a native. That would be like me standing in front of a church and charging a entrance fee and a bible fee to all church members. This man made a mockery of our people and added more shame to charge for this ceremony that has been done for years by my native people!
I do not feel so sorry for the idiots that followed this Con Man James Arthur Ray and died in a Sweat Lodge Ceremony. I feel sorry for their Families who have to pick up the pieces.
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James Arthur Ray promised better careers, more money, success, influence with people, and a selfish Self Centered way to expand ones life. The people who died wanted MORE MORE MORE out of life instead of being happy with what they had. ERGO...they died for their own GREED of "getting ahead".
i dont get why he was doing this ceremony because he is not native american wish there will be a law that prohibets nonatives from having these ceremonys be cause they do not do this the right way a seatlodge is only suposed to hold from 15 to 12 people not 65 and our materials are coth and blankets while his was tarp and plasite so plez respect my peoples culture so it dont get taken away.
I'm full blooded Native. I come from a family thats traditional spiritually and culturally. I was taught from my elders that when you mess with sacred things in a unsacred way it will bite back at you just the same when you mess with a rattle snake it will bite at you and even kill you. James Ray has whats coming to him. Them "new age" spiritual ppl need to understand what they're getting themselves into.
That james ray supporter is why christianity is so evil today. People like him disrespect the creator in every way. Except unlike christianity. The creator power in native ways can't be played with because on this continent it's the real deal and demands to be respected because its the most powerful form of spirituality on mother earth.
For the white folks understand that there are spiritual laws that are real, such as You are forbidden to charge money or they are disrespect these ways.Someone will be held accountable there are things that are bigger than man. It may seem like it's easy to figure out rationally but there is a spiritual element that unfolded in this story for sure.If you know that charging money is a known spiritual fact.You wouldn't dare go there. bad things will happen.Same with drugs dont disrespect
dumb ass, your christianity rapes little boys and the duche bag pope (a pedifile himself) does nothing, if there really was a god, that ass wipe would have never been born..... ahmen brother ben shot the goose and killed the hen
If your dinner guests gets choked some bony fish you served and dies, did you commit a crime?
The correct answer is: No, but, criminal charges would be filed by someone needing an accounting for the death, and you would be found guilty of manslaughter, and sentenced to 50 years in prison!
I can't beleive how stupid he is. I can't beleive Anyone would sit though his talks and be reprimanded and talked down to! This guy is a stupid jerk and deserves what the Law of Attraction brought him!
where is the Law of attraction promises! How could this people die while they came to " attract wealth and Health" at first place which means they were " feeling good "?..
As a NATIVE NDN fr az, I am angry for the misuse of a ceremonie that we as NATIVES concider sacred. The CEREMONY is deep within out heart. There is nothing that is sacred to this ceremony that was being held by mr ray. The only thing that he conciders sacred is the greed for money. If a person who is going to do a sacred ceremonie should be knowledgable or has a connection to that ceremonie. Like the NATIVES who have been blessed and born with this knowledge.
A slick talker taking-in the dumb and the personality-less. Slick, though, isn't that bright and kills a few with cheap tarp-over with no smoke hole exit (video) and no doubt no fans to change air either - A child could have called the cheap enclosure 'stupid, cheap and dangerous'. Aggrieved: Get a lawyer, and take the state's licencing authority to court too, in case Slick has no money to go after (possible).
Hey your the Jack ASS. If you watched or read the news you would have known that all the ones who died were Very Healthy and Athletic!! It's a miracle they all didn't get cooked to death with that TOXIC UNBREATHABLE PLASTIC DEATHTRAP they put them in....
In the end he has to live with the reality he tried pretending to be something he wasn't; messing with things he obviously didn't understand fully, and people suffered as a result. What a hard lesson to have to learn, unless of course he doesn't have the conscience to realize what he's done.
Sad.. there is so much more going on here than is apparent. Suffice to say Ray doesn't understand the Power he's working with... like a kid playing the master carpenter's tools.. easily influenced by darkness.
don't give up on 'spirituality' because of the IDIOCY of a few...
that lady was perfectly healthy in appearance and had a long life ahead. He needs prison time. If they stick martha in prison when others would have gotten a slap, they need to stick this guy in prison and he can be cupcake
This Bobo the Clown Imitating a Spiritual leader and Spiritual person like what got into this guy trying to Imitated native ceremonies and asking for Money to enter well I hope some natives Kick him in the Ass and hopes He spends his Life in prison . Pidamiya
Ray should be held for manslaughter for taking $9,000 from these people and not providing the service of sweatlodge that is safe. His cheap makeshift lodge is a disgrace.
There is something idiotic about new-age "seekers" forgetting that human beings are, in essence, cagey self-centered opportunists who will take any advantage of you they can to make cash and gain power. "Seeking" isn't airy-fairy acceptance of a knife in your gut. "Seeking" is trying to figure out this world we live in. Basically, new-age "seekers," if a stranger offers you candy, don't take it just because they are smiling and will take your money for it.
parafleet 10 months ago
those things are deathtraps with bags on it!
trulychloe 11 months ago
Look, im very offended and very sad at the same time. What is wrong with this picture. Anglos need to find their own way of communicating to spirit, I find it appaling that they feel native, your not. I was invited to a pipe ceremony and was shocked because the pipe ceremony was being done by anglos,happy to say I walked out.I will not dis honor my brothers. GET YOUR OWN CULTURE NOT OURS.U STOLE R LAND KILLED ARE PEOPLE NOW YOU WANT TO PLAY INDIAN WAKE UP. LONE WOLF/AZTECA
cavallo2012 11 months ago
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dsspiritwalker 1 year ago
I feel sadness for the people that lost their lives. I would like to state that one does not charge for a sweat lodge, if fee is mentioned run even if it is a native. That would be like me standing in front of a church and charging a entrance fee and a bible fee to all church members. This man made a mockery of our people and added more shame to charge for this ceremony that has been done for years by my native people!
dsspiritwalker 1 year ago
I do not feel so sorry for the idiots that followed this Con Man James Arthur Ray and died in a Sweat Lodge Ceremony. I feel sorry for their Families who have to pick up the pieces.
.
James Arthur Ray promised better careers, more money, success, influence with people, and a selfish Self Centered way to expand ones life. The people who died wanted MORE MORE MORE out of life instead of being happy with what they had. ERGO...they died for their own GREED of "getting ahead".
Sad and pathetic.
lamardarren 1 year ago
i dont get why he was doing this ceremony because he is not native american wish there will be a law that prohibets nonatives from having these ceremonys be cause they do not do this the right way a seatlodge is only suposed to hold from 15 to 12 people not 65 and our materials are coth and blankets while his was tarp and plasite so plez respect my peoples culture so it dont get taken away.
zhoni2004 1 year ago
I heard he killed some people!
martinal99 1 year ago
I'm full blooded Native. I come from a family thats traditional spiritually and culturally. I was taught from my elders that when you mess with sacred things in a unsacred way it will bite back at you just the same when you mess with a rattle snake it will bite at you and even kill you. James Ray has whats coming to him. Them "new age" spiritual ppl need to understand what they're getting themselves into.
ApacheLife5465 1 year ago
dear james, enjoy the rest of your life in the hot sauna at san quentin being ass raped daily, you deserve hell on earth.
fiveOHwatchin 1 year ago
That james ray supporter is why christianity is so evil today. People like him disrespect the creator in every way. Except unlike christianity. The creator power in native ways can't be played with because on this continent it's the real deal and demands to be respected because its the most powerful form of spirituality on mother earth.
dad2ujunior 1 year ago
For the white folks understand that there are spiritual laws that are real, such as You are forbidden to charge money or they are disrespect these ways.Someone will be held accountable there are things that are bigger than man. It may seem like it's easy to figure out rationally but there is a spiritual element that unfolded in this story for sure.If you know that charging money is a known spiritual fact.You wouldn't dare go there. bad things will happen.Same with drugs dont disrespect
dad2ujunior 1 year ago
dumb ass, your christianity rapes little boys and the duche bag pope (a pedifile himself) does nothing, if there really was a god, that ass wipe would have never been born..... ahmen brother ben shot the goose and killed the hen
fiveOHwatchin 1 year ago
If your dinner guests gets choked some bony fish you served and dies, did you commit a crime?
The correct answer is: No, but, criminal charges would be filed by someone needing an accounting for the death, and you would be found guilty of manslaughter, and sentenced to 50 years in prison!
Dont be ignorant!
dennishalsey1962 2 years ago
I can't beleive how stupid he is. I can't beleive Anyone would sit though his talks and be reprimanded and talked down to! This guy is a stupid jerk and deserves what the Law of Attraction brought him!
cybersurfergirl 2 years ago
Hmmm...
I like sweat lodges.
Looks like this was a bad one.
Noumenon4Idolatry 2 years ago
Well.....I usually drink water first...hmmm....
Noumenon4Idolatry 2 years ago
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fiveOHwatchin 1 year ago
where is the Law of attraction promises! How could this people die while they came to " attract wealth and Health" at first place which means they were " feeling good "?..
wanagj 2 years ago
This is very sad. I am sorry for the victims and their families and friends. He charged all that money but he couldn't make it safe?
Chipotle77 2 years ago
As a NATIVE NDN fr az, I am angry for the misuse of a ceremonie that we as NATIVES concider sacred. The CEREMONY is deep within out heart. There is nothing that is sacred to this ceremony that was being held by mr ray. The only thing that he conciders sacred is the greed for money. If a person who is going to do a sacred ceremonie should be knowledgable or has a connection to that ceremonie. Like the NATIVES who have been blessed and born with this knowledge.
ansomo1 2 years ago 2
THIS WAS NOT A CEREMONY,this was a ROBBERY,MURDER AND STEALING.get your story right.
mayatratar 2 years ago 6
A slick talker taking-in the dumb and the personality-less. Slick, though, isn't that bright and kills a few with cheap tarp-over with no smoke hole exit (video) and no doubt no fans to change air either - A child could have called the cheap enclosure 'stupid, cheap and dangerous'. Aggrieved: Get a lawyer, and take the state's licencing authority to court too, in case Slick has no money to go after (possible).
fuhmeregan 2 years ago 2
Hey your the Jack ASS. If you watched or read the news you would have known that all the ones who died were Very Healthy and Athletic!! It's a miracle they all didn't get cooked to death with that TOXIC UNBREATHABLE PLASTIC DEATHTRAP they put them in....
AMERONAU 2 years ago
Spiritual Materialism at its finest
robshaps 2 years ago
God speaks clearly.
DannyA74 2 years ago
ARE THOSE BLUE PLASTIC TARPS?
djrapstarvideo 2 years ago
In the end he has to live with the reality he tried pretending to be something he wasn't; messing with things he obviously didn't understand fully, and people suffered as a result. What a hard lesson to have to learn, unless of course he doesn't have the conscience to realize what he's done.
coryw31 2 years ago
Sad.. there is so much more going on here than is apparent. Suffice to say Ray doesn't understand the Power he's working with... like a kid playing the master carpenter's tools.. easily influenced by darkness.
don't give up on 'spirituality' because of the IDIOCY of a few...
mkoco04 2 years ago
LoL, now a 3rd one is dead !
What a bunch of stupid idiots ! They deserved to die, survival of the fittest bitches!
You got cooked to death ! LoL, that's funny shit.
BPwhistleblower 2 years ago
It's not funny this guy is a scam artist!! Hopefully is charged with manslaughter and loses everything!!
ILoveDogsandHarleys 2 years ago 3
voluntary X 3
Vspears 2 years ago
that lady was perfectly healthy in appearance and had a long life ahead. He needs prison time. If they stick martha in prison when others would have gotten a slap, they need to stick this guy in prison and he can be cupcake
Vspears 2 years ago
This Bobo the Clown Imitating a Spiritual leader and Spiritual person like what got into this guy trying to Imitated native ceremonies and asking for Money to enter well I hope some natives Kick him in the Ass and hopes He spends his Life in prison . Pidamiya
Lipsz2007 2 years ago
What has to die in James Arthur Ray?
waterboardbush 2 years ago
Excellent insight, clearly he needs to find out
acubird 2 years ago
I hope you live a long long awful life in prison where you deserve Killer RAY!!
darintaylor79 2 years ago
Ray should be held for manslaughter for taking $9,000 from these people and not providing the service of sweatlodge that is safe. His cheap makeshift lodge is a disgrace.
mattnmac 2 years ago 6
@mattnmac IHOPE HEROTS IN PRISON
thoostorm4 1 year ago