Liverpool 1980: Shotokan is by far the dominant style in the city, practised everywhere, even at far-flung places like the Bridgefield Forum in Huyton. There was however, a Goju club at the YMCA, a small Kyokushin club at the University, and even one unconventional Wado club at a church hall in the outskirts.There was, of course, a Shotokan club at the University, usually tought by Darryl Lyman of S. Africa. I often wonder what has become of Mr. Lyman. Anybody?
will be graded by sensei sherry tonight for my 7th kyu.. what a privellige - watching this video is surreal as he is shown becoming one of Shotokans most (if not the) most respected and experienced non japanese practitioner.... before i was even born
one of the brennans might be there, possibly frank's older brother jimmy. terry oneil is the biggest guy there (ou see sensei enoeda practicing mawashi geri with) is there and andy sherry is the little guy with the black hair before it went grey.
I may be wrong but I think the students featured are Terry O'Neill, Chris and Nick Adamou and Andy Sherry, all of whom went on to become great instructors in their own right. Thanks for posting this Sundome1- those were the days !
During their turn kicks ( i think their called maegiri in karate?) they stabilise by swinging their arms, but doing this leaves your defense wide open. That's why i've been taught at ITF TKD to control your arms while kicking, thus defending yourself from a counterattack.
@LuxATemporeNostro mawashi geri is turning kick,mae is front.All arts swing the same side arm back,it facilitates the crossed extensor reflex and is also used in sprinting.You cant kick full power without it.Its impossible to fully protect your head while kicking,its the distance and angle that avoids the head shot counter,not really guarding it.
Ummm...My sensei always says that the front kick should be done traveling forwards...i noticed they do it goign back....he also often talks about sensi Eneoda so i don't understand why he teaches it traveeling backwards if not as much power can be attained? can anyone help please? thank you
There may be times where it is neccesary to use a kick rather than a punch, but your opponent is charging at you headlong so to plunge forward would mean you crash into them and get tangled up. The ability to deliver a strike whilst simultaneously eveading your opponent is very skillful - esp where weapons or multiple opponents could be involved. I would also say that accurate targeting - groin, kneecap, thigh - could count more than sheer power. Altho I wouldn't question Enoeda Senseis power!
Situations vary and a person should be able to execute strong technique moving backwards or forwards. Training isn't always about the mover either. I often find that in order for me to improve i have to break things down to very simplistic versions of the original and then work from there. Perhaps your instructor is getting you to understand the feeling of forward momentum and hip thrusting before you start to practice moving backwards?
@kratoslevit If you notice, he doesn't kick while his momentum is going back. He takes a half-step, stops, then kicks, thrusting his hips forward. Its more like a reactionary movement while you step back..
@kratoslevit I agree with Bassais statement. Sensei is demonstrating taking a half step back, then executing a front kick and steping back into front stance. If you break the movements up it makes sense as a distancing measure and then delivering a kick and returning to a defensive stance.
used to train with Sensei Tony Chin at St Johns Karate club also tained with Andy Sherry on Plenty of ocassions real nice fellas but hard as fuck anyone who has trained with these guys should be feel honored
Haha rondevous09! You were the one who took me for my first beginners class at Sensei Rhodes club twenty years ago! How you doing matey? Oss Sensei Eneoda was the MAN! I miss his demo at the KUGB Nationals every Year.
many thanx 4 the vid. Sensei Enoeda stayed at my grandmothers house in Leeds. My father Ron Wade had the pleasure of training with him. He was the captain of the British team who were the first to beat the Japs in Paris. I always wonder what it wud've been like if he didnt retire to get married and start Window Cleaning! Many of his peers (Andy Sherry, Bob Rhodes, Randolph Williams etc) are very respected in the KUGB.
nice video. i can see terry oneill in there, who taught me and graded me and andy sherry who also did the same as well as enoeda. great footage, nice park too. lived in liverpool for 10 years.
I have vivid memories of the Liverpool Shotokan scene in the late 70s: Andy Sherry was teaching at the Red Triangle where Bob Poynton and Frank Brennan used to train as well. Terry O'Neil ran his own club "The Samurai" near the city centre, and the late Steve Cattle still another club in the northern part of the city.
Billy Higins was around active as competition referee.
Thanks for all the info Sundome1. I was a student in Liverpool years and years ago and that is how I recognise the faces. Sorry I missed Bob Poynton in the video.
All may come as a surprise to you considering that I am a Wado man myself!
he graded me 3 times 1,2,3dan i am so privalaged to have known him,when he first came over he drove a bright orange vw beetle iseen some pic it was so funny he loved it,rip sensei
I had the privilage of training with Terry O'neil (whom is in this video) for 10 Years. Biggest regret giving up martial arts.
quakk 2 months ago
Такая хуйня
tinnochka1 3 months ago
Liverpool 1980: Shotokan is by far the dominant style in the city, practised everywhere, even at far-flung places like the Bridgefield Forum in Huyton. There was however, a Goju club at the YMCA, a small Kyokushin club at the University, and even one unconventional Wado club at a church hall in the outskirts.There was, of course, a Shotokan club at the University, usually tought by Darryl Lyman of S. Africa. I often wonder what has become of Mr. Lyman. Anybody?
78a67 5 months ago
I would have felt so blessed to have trained with these people - before Karate became a commercial enterprise
PnutButter1986 5 months ago
Glad to see that I'm not the only one who has an awkward time doing a front snap kick in sneakers...
ndileonardo 5 months ago
will be graded by sensei sherry tonight for my 7th kyu.. what a privellige - watching this video is surreal as he is shown becoming one of Shotokans most (if not the) most respected and experienced non japanese practitioner.... before i was even born
BodomChildBreeder 7 months ago
Was 110% that it was Jimmy Brennan but thinking about I now, I most likely is Bob Poynton.
nostatus 10 months ago
Japanese. Slow.
mrthebillman 10 months ago
That's the same front kick that Anderson Silva used to knock out Vitor Belfort.
Bassai 11 months ago
one of the brennans might be there, possibly frank's older brother jimmy. terry oneil is the biggest guy there (ou see sensei enoeda practicing mawashi geri with) is there and andy sherry is the little guy with the black hair before it went grey.
i don't know who the other guy is.
nostatus 1 year ago
@nostatus It's andy, bob and terry. Not sure who the guy on the far left is. Quite certain it's neither of the brennans.
blackbeltste 1 year ago
Thanks to karate, one will never become bored. After all, it's not like you have to remember to bring your hands and feet where you travel!
Thanks for sharing :)
AndrewTooyak 1 year ago
@AndrewTooyak: I say this all the time about martial arts!!! Yes!
WarriorBoy 11 months ago
Awesome kihon drill.............
budokanboy 1 year ago
SUNDOME спасибо за отличные ролики !!!
MishkinSan 1 year ago
@MishkinSan Спасибо
Sundome1 1 year ago
I may be wrong but I think the students featured are Terry O'Neill, Chris and Nick Adamou and Andy Sherry, all of whom went on to become great instructors in their own right. Thanks for posting this Sundome1- those were the days !
laithaj 1 year ago
looks alike like TKD or TKD looks like this, whichever.
jiggahippo 1 year ago
During their turn kicks ( i think their called maegiri in karate?) they stabilise by swinging their arms, but doing this leaves your defense wide open. That's why i've been taught at ITF TKD to control your arms while kicking, thus defending yourself from a counterattack.
LuxATemporeNostro 1 year ago
@LuxATemporeNostro mawashi geri is turning kick,mae is front.All arts swing the same side arm back,it facilitates the crossed extensor reflex and is also used in sprinting.You cant kick full power without it.Its impossible to fully protect your head while kicking,its the distance and angle that avoids the head shot counter,not really guarding it.
billysue2 1 year ago
@billysue2 Thank you for your correction and vision.
LuxATemporeNostro 1 year ago
My own Sensei, Mr Frank Cope was meant to be on this film, but he was ill when the session was filmed, so couldn't make it.
A real shame for students of Sensei Cope, because I've never seen any footage of him, and he has been my Sensei since 1980.
karatefella 1 year ago
Is that Terry O Neil in the vid, the one with the lightest hair?
icehockeyboy1 2 years ago 2
Yes
Sundome1 2 years ago
Thanks Sundome, back in the halcyon days of The Red Triangle if I;m not mistaken.
icehockeyboy1 2 years ago 2
Awesome footage....
tomasleeman 2 years ago 2
notice they all have the same pants? except the guy furthest back. wonder why...
Bassai 2 years ago
@Bassai Maybe the shop had run out!!!
Sundome1 2 years ago
@Sundome1 hahaha thanks for making me laugh..........osu
duirling 1 year ago
Thats Andy Sherry, he had his own pant man.
scullysedge 1 year ago
Two tactically different kicks. One is offensive, the other the opposite. You may want to hit an oncoming opponent and then go back. Response kick.
janaxel1 2 years ago 4
Ummm...My sensei always says that the front kick should be done traveling forwards...i noticed they do it goign back....he also often talks about sensi Eneoda so i don't understand why he teaches it traveeling backwards if not as much power can be attained? can anyone help please? thank you
kratoslevit 2 years ago
There may be times where it is neccesary to use a kick rather than a punch, but your opponent is charging at you headlong so to plunge forward would mean you crash into them and get tangled up. The ability to deliver a strike whilst simultaneously eveading your opponent is very skillful - esp where weapons or multiple opponents could be involved. I would also say that accurate targeting - groin, kneecap, thigh - could count more than sheer power. Altho I wouldn't question Enoeda Senseis power!
ClydeRowing 2 years ago
Makes alot of sense. Thank you :)
kratoslevit 2 years ago
Ask your Sensei to watch the video then!
Sundome1 2 years ago
Situations vary and a person should be able to execute strong technique moving backwards or forwards. Training isn't always about the mover either. I often find that in order for me to improve i have to break things down to very simplistic versions of the original and then work from there. Perhaps your instructor is getting you to understand the feeling of forward momentum and hip thrusting before you start to practice moving backwards?
veggieshredder 1 year ago
@kratoslevit If you notice, he doesn't kick while his momentum is going back. He takes a half-step, stops, then kicks, thrusting his hips forward. Its more like a reactionary movement while you step back..
Bassai 2 years ago
@kratoslevit Also, you will notice he is kicking Jodan Mae-Geri. A front kick to the jaw will always be more powerful than an uppercut.
Bassai 2 years ago
@kratoslevit I agree with Bassais statement. Sensei is demonstrating taking a half step back, then executing a front kick and steping back into front stance. If you break the movements up it makes sense as a distancing measure and then delivering a kick and returning to a defensive stance.
drumass23 2 years ago
used to train with Sensei Tony Chin at St Johns Karate club also tained with Andy Sherry on Plenty of ocassions real nice fellas but hard as fuck anyone who has trained with these guys should be feel honored
superpitbull87 2 years ago
They're not wearing gis! lol Sherry's like 60 and an 8th dan
Musicman1397 2 years ago
Haha rondevous09! You were the one who took me for my first beginners class at Sensei Rhodes club twenty years ago! How you doing matey? Oss Sensei Eneoda was the MAN! I miss his demo at the KUGB Nationals every Year.
Mystery153 2 years ago 2
many thanx 4 the vid. Sensei Enoeda stayed at my grandmothers house in Leeds. My father Ron Wade had the pleasure of training with him. He was the captain of the British team who were the first to beat the Japs in Paris. I always wonder what it wud've been like if he didnt retire to get married and start Window Cleaning! Many of his peers (Andy Sherry, Bob Rhodes, Randolph Williams etc) are very respected in the KUGB.
rondevous09 2 years ago 2
nice video. i can see terry oneill in there, who taught me and graded me and andy sherry who also did the same as well as enoeda. great footage, nice park too. lived in liverpool for 10 years.
nostatus 2 years ago 2
i do kenpo and shotokan thats why i say ...its great for punching and setting up techniques as well as many other things
pooopiepants 2 years ago
NOTICE: If you have an understanding of Shotokan Karate-do please feel free to leave a comment, otherwise time wasters are not wanted. Thank You
Sundome1 2 years ago
is this shotokan ...???i noticed the stances their extremely remeniscent to shotokan if not please do tell what this art is
pooopiepants 2 years ago
yes it is shotokan.
blackbeltste 2 years ago 2
@blackbeltste the best a man can get !
sweetypie000 1 year ago
JKA all the way !
sweetypie000 1 year ago
I have vivid memories of the Liverpool Shotokan scene in the late 70s: Andy Sherry was teaching at the Red Triangle where Bob Poynton and Frank Brennan used to train as well. Terry O'Neil ran his own club "The Samurai" near the city centre, and the late Steve Cattle still another club in the northern part of the city.
Billy Higins was around active as competition referee.
78a67 2 years ago
Thanks for all the info Sundome1. I was a student in Liverpool years and years ago and that is how I recognise the faces. Sorry I missed Bob Poynton in the video.
All may come as a surprise to you considering that I am a Wado man myself!
78a67 2 years ago 2
aright vid
i look up info about this person
keep it up
Grandpa08339 2 years ago
The trainees in bare skin top are unmistakably Andy Sherry and Terry O'neil.
Training ground is Sefton Park
78a67 2 years ago
Thanks for viewing - you are correct - please see more info. (top right hand side) for this video.
Sundome1 2 years ago
Great video! I lived near sefton park many years ago. I also trained at andy sherrys dojo for a while
hophip64 3 years ago
he graded me 3 times 1,2,3dan i am so privalaged to have known him,when he first came over he drove a bright orange vw beetle iseen some pic it was so funny he loved it,rip sensei
smcgregor72 3 years ago
Amazing historical video. Thank you.
Kokondo 3 years ago