This version has nothing to do with the social period that Jane Austen depicted in her novel. Keira Knightley will never be the really sharp but funny Lizzy in the book and Mr Darcy's implacable dignity still misses here. It's not all about the kiss, it's about the misinterpretation of the text. Don't tell me that it's the director's freedom to make adjustments because a great part of sense is lost in this way.
"nowhere to be found in the book." because including unneccessary romantic references was not the done thing. it was considered innappropriate. Romantic writing sort of skirted around these sorts of scenes. For Gods sake!!! For sticking to the book, watch the 1995 version. for a nice cosy, well written romantic story, watch this one! it's still the same damn story! I love the book, but I also like a good on screen romance. Lighten up people!
Dear purists, after Darcy and Elizabeth were married they would have kissed and probably had lots and lots of sex, becuse even in Jane Austens day that what married people in love did. I mean for heavens sake its not like she would never have pictured them kissing, the BBC version showed Liddia and Whickam living together and practicly having sex. Whats so wrong with having one romatic moment of cheesy awesomeness between a married couple?
@kkmaye althought technically, being shown as good christians, at the time they should not have had sex for the sake of it. other than that, I agree with you. it's not technically incorrect if they're married.
I understand the critics but I thought the end was very sweet I mean it's Hollywood it'll never be as good as the book, why not make it a little more romantic at the end? it satisfies people who didn't read the book.
I thought the kiss scene was after they had been married because they were sitting outside of Pemberly at night and he was calling her Mrs. Darcy. Why wouldn't two married people in love kiss when they were alone? Besides. It was like a teeny little freeze frame kiss and really short. It's not correcting Jane Austen's "mistake" but rather adding on to her masterpiece for the sake of visual effects. A book is entirely different than a movie. I'm glad they added a kiss because that what fans want.
I didn't hate the alternate US ending, although it might have been a little too mushy for Darcy and Elizabeth, but it was lovely and romantic all the same; and since the British film ended with a shot of her father (which I didn't really feel was the most appropriate thing to finish on) it may have even been preferable to end it with the alternate ending...
What a terrible film it was! How superior was the BBC series! I waited the whole film for the most famous opening line in English literature - in vain. The script writers had no sensitivity to the book at all, ugh!
@TheGlitzieGirl1 You have to be fair. This was a 2-hour movie. You can't compare it to a 5 hour long series, I agree that they should've added more lines instead of wasting time on silly montages (like Lizzy spinning on the swing or Lizzie standing by the cliff thinking about god knows what) but, it is what it is. It wasn't a terrible film, but the series was indeed better cast.
Just a note, I personally thought the ending with the sugary shit was a BIT too much, and it had nothing to do with the book not having a kiss because obviously you expect these two people never to kiss? no. they have to kiss sometime, so i don't really care on that account, but it just pained me to see Darcy so loveydovey. Though you could chalk it up to jealousy, I guess. xP
They were married when they kissed! What's the big deal? I love the ending in that movie! I love the 1995 version, too. They're just different. The 2005 version is shortened and very fairy-tale like and love at first sight, but the 1995 version is more like the book and more realistic, but I love both!
I think this is much ado about nothing. The way Jane Austen describes in the book the scene between Elizabeth and Darcy, when she accepts his proposal, shows that there would have been words of love expressed. I quote: "The happiness which this reply produced was such as he had probably never felt before; and he expressed himself on the occasion as sensibly and as warmly as a man violently in love can be supposed to do." ... notice the word VIOLENTLY IN LOVE. Passion!
Continuing on ... "Had Elizabeth been able to encounter his eyes, she might have seen how well the expression of heartfelt delight diffused over his face became him; but though she could not look she could listen; and he told her of feelings which, in proving of what importance she was to him, made his affection every moment more valuable." ........... I don't think they would have been standing a mile away while he was expressing his feelings to her. :-)
Austen writes, describing Georgiana's reaction to the newlyweds: "Georgiana had the highest opinion in the world of Elizabeth; though at first she often listened with an astonishment bordering on alarm at her lively, sportive manner of talking to her brother. He, who had always inspired in herself a respect which almost overcame her affection, she now saw the object of open pleasantry." .... Sounds like a happily married couple to me, very much in love! :-)
I'm American and I say that Jane Austen sure as hell was like that. She was passionate and romantic and that's what the ending was. Even if she didn't write it, she was thinking it! So it may not have been in their tme period, but I mean come on, they're married in the ending and that's what married coulpes who are in love do! If you don't like the ending don't watch the damn moive then, because that movie deserves to be rated as # 1 with all the other Pride and Prejudice movies!
Well for me its not the fact that they kissed, its the whole scene, it seriously made me cringe, it's just over the top mushiness. And yeah they did kiss in the 1995 version but it wasn't OTT.
I dont know why they made the film in the first place anyway, you can't best perfection and that is what the beeb did in '95 :)
as for lost in austen - that completely different they weren't sticking to the story, it was a complete skit. and mr. wickham was epic id choose him over darcy any day! :D
I'm Irish so I'm kind of Switzerland here, and this might sound cheesy but it's all about pride and prejudice. The British shouldn't have been so full of pride and prejudice toward the Americans that they thought that they needed a more kissy ending. Without the US ending the movie was great, we knew it all ended happy between Darcy and Elizabeth and if they were going to put the scene in the us version why not put it in every version,Whats the difference!!!
What's the big deal. It's not like they were making out in the middle of a party. End of the movie they are married and they love each other. It would be strange if they didn't show some affection. Besides Colin and Jennifer kissed in the BBC version too.
The entire movie was classic, and turned corny and cheesy on the kissing scene.
It's not about the kiss, it's the way they did it: she asking if he's happiest man in the world, he answering by calling her Mrs Darcy, reminding everyone of her success of becoming the righteous owner of all his wealth...
I hate it that they think just because we are "ugly Americans" that we need a different ending of the movie from the rest of the world. I like the book and the movie the way it was intended to be. Why would they be so ignorant to think that we Americans would want a sappier ending than the rest of the world? Why can we not be included?
UUUUUGGGGGHHHHHH I swear the British & the "purists" are so full of it!!!!!!! Pride and prejudice was never a true story while, I am sure it did resemble the period P & P was written as a fictional novel for entertainment purposes and it was changed in the movies to include a kiss for the same reasons, Though I prefer the original my self ....oooooohhhh & I am American Imagine that! You know no one has brought up the British modern adaptation of P&P called "Lost in Austen" which includes a kiss
The kiss wasn't put in the book because it was not the social norm to Put kisses in Books. That does not mean there were NO Kisses back then. Married couples, who loved each other, definitely kissed. The 1995 version had a kiss and no one complained. I think both endings of this version are good.
i don't get why it matters. it's an adaptation, why does it have to be exactly like the book...? i thought the kiss was sweet and pure, it wasn't like it was some messy snog or whatever...
Why is it so important that they kissed at the end, they were married and I am sure Mr. Darcy and Elizabeth kissed even if they did not say they did in the book. I love the ending the whole time I watched it with my friends were saying KISS HER!!!!!
I am not American but I personally still like the alternate ending. The main argument is that it was not appropriate for the time period, but the kiss happens AFTER Lizzie and Darcy are married; making it completely appropriate. I am a huge Jane Austen fan, and I know that they can't make everything exactly like the book, but they made it more romantic and lush; and I personally find this ending more satisfying than the UK version. And what about the kiss in the BBC version?
Oh, heck, the kisses for both the BBC and the 2005 version were placed in after they were married. No, kisses are not in the book, but we can assume that they had kisses at some point in their married life. It was highly satisfying to see a kiss in both versions!
@VonFisch1 Exactly ! This movie version ended with them newly married and enjoying a romantic moment alone at their home when they finally kiss and that was very acceptable and expected of newlyweds even of that time. While the book ends with the reactions of their engagement and a brief wrap up of the characters lives after the wedding, the film makers couldn't do that , so they showed them as the happy newlyweds the book describes . Personally I loved it
This is the period of time when a man and a woman couldn't kiss or even touch hands until marriage. This is a great scene and Darcy wanted to kiss her but he didn't out of respect. This is a pure and true love, one you don't see anymore.
Think about it, Americans want every love story to end in that one final kiss where guy gets girl. In a country where most people want to believe in living happily ever after this kiss was put in to make Americans happy. Name one huge franchise movie that didn't end with a kissing scene? I understand where people are coming from on how the kiss wasnt in the story but remember, movies are only based off the books, there is room for change. And I happen to be a fan of the book and the movies.
i hate when people say stupid things like, "it wasnt in the book, it totally ruined the movie". I didnt find the kiss scene a bad thing at all and saw it as more of an addition to the original story. it was an exellent movie.
I saw the non kiss ending and it felt to abrupt to me. I never felt the final kiss scene was great, but after I saw the orginal ending I liked it. But I understand why book purists might hate it.
What people fail to realize is that the ending that American audiences saw was the ORIGINAL ending and was only cut from the UK version after negative previews. IT is not like America demanded the ending we got, rather the UK demanded the ending change to get the one they have.
This is ridiculous! Darcy and Elizabeth OBVIOUSLY would have kissed in that time period once they were married, but it wouldn't have been published in the book because that would have made it more innapropriate for the time period. Nothing wrong with a good smooch once you're married :P
I can't stand this movie (sappy and dull) but it's just silly to claim kissing was outside the social norms of that time.19th century novels did feature quite a bit of kissing. Heathcliff and Catherine kiss quite often in Wuthering Heights, Helen and Arthur kiss before they get married in The Tenant of Widfell Hall, jude and sue have an entire family out of wedlock in Jude the Obscure. Kissing is not a 21st century invention. In Mansfield Park Mary makes a joke about anal sex for heaven's sake.
HELL there complaining becuase there was only ONE kiss at the ending?? i was mad that there was only one kiss and not more!! haha i love the american one when the movie ended after that kiss i was like "that was it" but im still happy becuase it was sooooo romantic :) those puritans or whatever might think a simple hug wud be too much T.T
It wasn't the kiss that bothered me but the writing that seemed to veer the most away from what would be found in the story. It may have needed an update but that seemed to be a schmaltzy one, they're right. And I am Canadian, soooo...I didn't need that ending, I'm just saying.
I was surprised when yesterdaw watched the movie DVD and found this alternative ending.. when I watched the movie the first and second time (cause I love it) the ending was different... In any case I love Mr Darcy.. the character is of a misteruous man with an exquisite masculin voice!!! Love him!!
I'm not a purist by any means, but I don't like this ending. I agree with this lady who says it's too "schmutzy" for Jane Austen. It's not the kissing that bothers me either, it's the bullshit and about "my pearl" and "goddess divine". WTF?
i'm so sad... i got to watch the ending without the kissing scene... i've just watched the alternative beautiful ending with the kissing scene and said to myself what the fringe? this wasn't the ending i watched!
I'm one of the few who doesn't like the American ending. Not because I'm an "Austen purist", it's because it's just waayyy too soppy for my liking, and totally out of character. I mean, to make it all playful with the language - strong when they're angry, delicate when they're happy (or as near to it) - and then to have "You may call me Mrs. Darcy on weekends" or whatever... It just felt like such a let-down to the characters! :@
If I were to just go by this video and what Matthew Macfadyen said (which I actually do not; I have friends from all over Europe), it would seem that Europeans are very "stick to the book 100%" types of people and are too cold to enjoy a sweet (sweet, not sappy) ending with only one real mouth to mouth kiss. And it's true we are living in different times and sometimes, to make a movie more favorable to the audience, you just gotta change some stuff. It's not like they were in bed for God's sake!
WHAT nonsense!!!! I'm American and I totally love the non-kiss ending! Americans don't NEED to have kissy kissy in every movie we watch! It was cool and refreshing to see a movie without it!
@DrawnByPencil Yes! I would be wounded in my pride by a silly prejudice like this, was I American ;). There are wonderful movies made in USA with sensual notes without being explicit. In fact a sensual gesture can be more thrilling than a kiss. How he glanced at her neck, when she played piano. The way their hands seem to tingle when they touched and most of all, the almost kiss at the pavillion!!! *sigh*
@DrawnByPencil I heard about the American ending, and after my teenage daughters had watched the film (again!), we looked for it in the additional features menu where it was on the second page. We played it, and they weren't impressed! I couldn't believe that the American public needed it; and I'm pleased to see your response here.
lol...seriously, arguing on kiss scene? I guess how ever the ending would be, impossible to please every one. So just enjoy the scene (or hate it if you wish)
Stupid useless reflection; The movie is based on the book but they were lots of difference between them including the scene. I LOVE IT, at the end I was "WTF, no kiss, no after-wedding-scene, no nothing ?" until this scene who gave us an idea of Lizzie and Darcy life after. It just enables us to have the perfect ending and move on without fustration. They should being that narrow minded, it's just a kiss.
personally, i adore pride and prejudice but hate both endings. the british one, it would've been nice to end with a kiss. movie closure and all. but the american one was a little overboard. the kiss at the end of the BBC series was perfect. thats how they should've ended it.
but i do think matthew macfayden is a gorgeous mr darcy.
i actually wished they had kissed a couple more times. LOL.
AND I'M NOT A PERV.
and i just love Elizabeth Bennett & Mr. Darcy together, and Keira Knightley & Matthew Macfadyen play those characters amazingly, with so much chemistry! even though i've seen the movie countless times, i'm always anticipating a kiss every single time i watch it again. ahahaha
uhm, i wish the people would be intelligent enough to know that mr. darcy HAD EVERY RIGHT TO KISS HER SINCE THEY WERE ALREADY MARRIED.. who wouldn't kiss his wife?? are they even thinking? let's all try to be a little MORE REALISTIC..
well i have to say i like both endings. I see no problem with the kissing scene and i also don't think that the movie would have been bad without it. i always watch it with the uk ending but afterwards if i want to i watch the us version just as an addition. everyone has different tastes so it's fine that some like it and some don't i just think it's wrong to say that something is better or worse.
I prefer the UK version with the amazing Donald Sutherland with tears in his eyes wrapping it up, but I like that I can watch the US kissing scene on youtube. Best of both worlds.
In the end, this novel is inciting love. It's romance. A kiss is just another representation of their love for each other and Love itself. If you truly love someone, you don't only hug them, give a peck on the cheek - you kiss them. If there's a problem with showing affection because you love someone in the way this movie has been ended, then you will grow as an old spinster and live in a shoe with 100 cats.
they don't actually kiss in the book. at all. there is little to describe them after marriage so its understandable that there isn't. its nice to see a jane austen adaptation that tays true to the book in all areas.
@SongBird4Jesus27 i meant that for the uk version. in the uk version they do not kiss. though i was dissapointed it ended so abruptly. i have no desire to see the american version. is abit stupid if you ask me to change it for one country. if the director wanted a kiss in it he should have put it in for all versions.
GUYS THEY ARE MARRIED!! HE CALLS HER "MRS DARCY!!!" THEY WOULDNT HAVE BEEN ALONE BACK THEN IF THEY WERE NOT MARRIED! THEY ARE ALLOWED TO KISS WHEN THEY ARE MARRIED! geez people.
I after seeing the american ending i decide it was better that they didnt add it. was just tooooo cute??!! If they had had a kiss in the meadow that would have been alright..buh the american ending was just OC of the movie. the movie itself is OC for jane austin but thats not up for debate =]
This is ridiculous. It's a movie- of course they're going to kiss. Stick to the book if you don't like it. I'm not sure there's a version of P&P where Darcy and Elizabeth don't kiss... they even kissed in the 1940's version... before they were married! *GASP! What would puritans have to say to that??
@PuffyAmiYumi British ending was just Lizzy walking out of her fathers door, to Darcy I think, after she told her father she really loved Darcy. This was just added afterwards, so there is no special Britisch ending.
oh shut up. i have seen the us ending and its good. its not like raunchy it was a kiss god! an it happened in the other bbc 1995 version on one was cryin then! i wish it was on the british ending!
WTF??? Are you serious? the kisss is so small it's barley recognizable. Wow. So in britan they can have commercials with naked people, but God forbid they put one little smooch in a Jane Austen movie. TO SHMALTZY? uh, Jane austen's entitre book is shmaltzy, if by shmaltzy you mean mooshy and lovey dovey. wth?
Lovey dovey? You've read Jane Austen, right? Romantic, I would accept, but in no point is Jane Austen lovey-dovey. Really, her books are more about politics than anything else.
Isn't it a bit patronising for the Americans? Anyhow, this movie was nothing like the book. I don't mind adaptations that stray a little from the source (I loved Disney's version of Hunchback of Notre Dame, so there you go) but the film had none of the novel's spirit. I doubt the writers even read the book- they could have called this film anything. Even then, it would be so-so.
I think I'm just going to make a really rubbish film and call it an adaptation of Hamlet. That'll get me money :)
@missbabyice I love this film, but I tend to view it as though it is seperate from the book. I think of the characters as being different from those in the book. That way I don't have to choose between the two, because I love them both. But I don't think any film is going to capture the real drama and spirit of the book. Just my opinion ;)
YES. This was what I was thinking. Us Americans apparently have to be force-feed cheesy endings with a spoon in order for a movie to make money. And it wasn't a particularly good adaptation, IMO. Give me Colin Firth and being truthful to the books anyday.
@G1NZOU I know, I do too. I have the American version on DVD, but I always skip the last scene before I see it. It helps me because I am a very imaginative person, I can then go on and think about what happened next as I want to, not as how some American producer saw it. I agree with you totally on the kiss thing! :)
It's not that I don't like the extra scene, as you said, but I prefer the original one too.
I really liked the fact that in the english version they didn't kiss, and thet just leant their heads together with the sun streaming through. I think it had something so sweet, personal and intimate that a kiss wasn't needed. That said, I adored the scene where they discuss names, and the repetition of "Mrs Darcy" I would have loved to have seen in the uk, but maybe ended it with their foreheads together again. It could have set itself up as their little "thing" which could have been quite cute
@MagicalUnicorn22 The scene you talk of is on the movie.. they just added a scene which is after they are married and it is an amazing scene it is done with class..
Personally, I can take or leave the ending where they were sitting outside Pemberley discussing pet names, but before that, I did think it was rather strange for Elizabeth to kiss Mr. Darcy's hand when she accepted his second proposal (of sorts).
I don't see what the big fuss is all about really. I mean the movie is an "adaptation" of the book, just like every other book that's been made into a movie. That means that it gives filmmakers a bit of liberty to change what they feel would appeal more to the audience. In my opinion, the tension between Elizabeth and Darcy throughout the entire movie was so intense, that I was so relieved to see a kiss between them. Was this an issue with the final kiss in the 1995 version with Colin Firth?
i'm an american and when i saw the scene (before i knew it was an alternate ending) i thought it seemed odd and unnecessary. Like it really didnt fit in with the rest of the movie.... and i'm by no means a purist
I enjoyed the kissing scene, honestly since I was in high school and read this book for the pure pleasure of it, I wanted to see Darcy and Elizabeth kiss, since I thought "damn, this sucker definately needs to smooch her, after all the tension". And when this movie came out and saw the alternate ending, am like finally. So yeah I loved it, and hell no am no purist but these suckers definately needed to kiss.
I think if you were to discuss the "purity" of this movie, you would not just discuss the kiss scene. The entire movie is not really true to Austen. Darcy's character is softened a lot in the movie, and they are completely out of character at times. So honestly, the kiss is not a big deal. The movie was cute.
And I may be wrong here, but I think, "he expressed himself on the occasion as sensibly and as warmly as a man violently in love can be supposed to do" is the expression of a kiss.
personalmente ame esa escena, porque muestra lo felices que son finalmente despues de todas las viscisitudes por las que atraviesan, y lo infelices que son hasta que concretan su amor. solamente la vi en el dvd, porque la version que pasan por tv, al menos en argentina, termina con la escena del sr. bennet en su biblioteca.
I remember seeing this movie at it's premier when I lived in Sweden, and it have the ending without the kiss. It was beautiful and all, but to be perfectly honest, I would have prefered the alternate ending with the kiss, since I felt left hanging, wanting to see more when it ended. It's a movie, no movie ever takes 100% of a book into it. Don't see the big fuss over changing some small things.
I don't live in either country, so that kinda makes me the third person right? Well, I think the kiss scene is beautiful, and I don't see anything wrong with it. The movie stays true to the essence of the novel, and that's what matters the most in making an adaptation. I think the kiss completes the happiness of the couple, not compromising it. Furthermore, if it's the American's way of thinking, so be it. We shouldn't complain whatsoever.
i watched the movie without the alternative ending and my mother and I, we loved the movie overall by the way, felt that the movie was just left... hanging. we wanted to know what happened to them afterward :( i was happy to find that they had an Alt. ending :)
Ending the movie without the kiss at the end would not have gone over well with American audiences, which is what they realized and why they added it. We expect SOMETHING at the end and not just loving glances at each other. We don't feel satisfied without it. I'm glad they added it for us!! No movie will ever be like the book, and the book will always be better. Get over it! You'd be surprised how many movies are based on books and how changed everything is.
NO movie is EXACTLY like the book. And a movie is fantasy. And its most girls fantasy to see Mr Darcy and Elizabeth kiss. If you don't like the kiss scene, don't watch it. That simple. I personally thought the kiss scene was beautiful and tasteful compared to some of the stuff thats shown in movies today.
I'm honestly not surprised that they threw in a kissing scene--it was bound to happen, in my opinion. No movie is exactly like the book. Ever.
And what's wrong with it? Did people not kiss back then? Hahaha.
Like others say, the two get married anyway, whatever version you read/watch, so if they didn't kiss...what kind of marriage is -that-?? I do like the original ending, but I don't think there's anything wrong with the alternative.
He calls her Mrs Darcy so they would have been married. I like it either way, but I had seen the American version with the kiss at the end first and was like "Something is missing" after seeing the other version. I didn't really see a difference in the movie versions besides the kiss. I love the book and the Keira version no matter what.
So what if they kissed!? I honestly wouldn't like the movie any less either way. It's not like they're ramming their tongues down each other's throats. And of course, it IS a movie, and as you may know most movies only follow the book to a certain point. Not to mention that they ARE married when the kiss takes place, so it really isn't scandalous or controversial.
I agree with them, that they would not have kissed that much back then. For them to have kissed at all before their marriage would have been scandalous. But I don't really mind it in the movie. by the way, efido008, at the end of the 1995 version, they kissed after their marriage, which would have been acceptable.
I'm actually bemused as to why no one has mentioned the rain scene whilst criticizing the romance in this film. It is supposed to be the least romantic scenario with the way he formally addresses the matter yet in the film its the most romantic scene. (and it appears as though Elizabeth actually wants to kiss Darcy)
Im from England and i personally prefer the American ending. In the book they got married so the kiss was as good as implied.
At the end of the day this was an adaptation of the classic book so therefore a little bit of artistic licence is to be expected. Personally I prefer the British/European ending but each to their own. And as someone mentioned earlier, the ending to the 1995 version had a kiss so I don't understand what all the fuss is about.
i think it is perfectly fine and understandable --- of course they are married and like mentioned by other commentors, it does say in the novel that they are exceedingly affectionate for the time... i think the scene provided good closure yet kept the idea of the book
normally i don't like "kissy" movies, but i think the closing scene worked well
@oneofakind93 The kiss was fine, but the lame dialog that Knightly wrote for the scene just killed the ending for me. It sounded anachronistic, especially that goddess bit.
I've seen both the 1995 version, this one, and read the book, and I must say that though there is no actual kiss in the book, Lizzy does say that Georgiana was shocked by the affection shown between her brother and Lizzy after their marriage when she moved to Pemberly. Lizzy says that she had to explain to Georgiana that it is alright to show love when you are marriaged, as she and Mr. Darcy are.
Wow, I cannot imagine this movie without some sort of a kiss. I'm so glad they put it in. It's a love story for heaven's sake. And I agree with the poster who said if you want an exact replica of the book, go watch a documentary. This is a movie, we watch movies for entertainment purposes. And they were married by the time of the kiss so no social rules of the day were broken. geesh.
(continued...) arrogant, proud or insensitive on the outside appearance or how we carry ourselves towards a new acquaintance but still when it comes to the power of love... we all would admit that we are blinded by our first impressions which is so SAD :( Luckyly - this book/movie gave us happiness in everyways possible. Peace.
IMO, I guess we just need to be open-minded with regard to how the ending was geared or set-up to fit various types of expectators. The bottom-line of this movie & the book of course, is to let everyone know that we may all look harsh, difficult-to-deal-with, (continued...)
ughhg....if the puritans want a realistic movie, go watch a documentary. Joe Wright's Pride and Prejudice was what a movie should be - a wonderful, fantasy-like experience. I wouldn't want to watch it any other way.
its a movie..u kidding me...its geared for manufacturing to sappy young women like me..i loved the book and loved the movie..some are just too uptight man,
This version has nothing to do with the social period that Jane Austen depicted in her novel. Keira Knightley will never be the really sharp but funny Lizzy in the book and Mr Darcy's implacable dignity still misses here. It's not all about the kiss, it's about the misinterpretation of the text. Don't tell me that it's the director's freedom to make adjustments because a great part of sense is lost in this way.
iughioo 1 week ago
"nowhere to be found in the book." because including unneccessary romantic references was not the done thing. it was considered innappropriate. Romantic writing sort of skirted around these sorts of scenes. For Gods sake!!! For sticking to the book, watch the 1995 version. for a nice cosy, well written romantic story, watch this one! it's still the same damn story! I love the book, but I also like a good on screen romance. Lighten up people!
hofffan333 3 weeks ago
Dear purists, after Darcy and Elizabeth were married they would have kissed and probably had lots and lots of sex, becuse even in Jane Austens day that what married people in love did. I mean for heavens sake its not like she would never have pictured them kissing, the BBC version showed Liddia and Whickam living together and practicly having sex. Whats so wrong with having one romatic moment of cheesy awesomeness between a married couple?
kkmaye 1 month ago 6
@kkmaye althought technically, being shown as good christians, at the time they should not have had sex for the sake of it. other than that, I agree with you. it's not technically incorrect if they're married.
hofffan333 3 weeks ago
I understand the critics but I thought the end was very sweet I mean it's Hollywood it'll never be as good as the book, why not make it a little more romantic at the end? it satisfies people who didn't read the book.
Yankeegrly93 2 months ago
i like the non-kiss ending much better
fightinside1 2 months ago
I totally get why they cut that ending off. It was a good decision.
Sei1863 2 months ago
I thought the kiss scene was after they had been married because they were sitting outside of Pemberly at night and he was calling her Mrs. Darcy. Why wouldn't two married people in love kiss when they were alone? Besides. It was like a teeny little freeze frame kiss and really short. It's not correcting Jane Austen's "mistake" but rather adding on to her masterpiece for the sake of visual effects. A book is entirely different than a movie. I'm glad they added a kiss because that what fans want.
ifonlyclanax33 2 months ago 7
I didn't hate the alternate US ending, although it might have been a little too mushy for Darcy and Elizabeth, but it was lovely and romantic all the same; and since the British film ended with a shot of her father (which I didn't really feel was the most appropriate thing to finish on) it may have even been preferable to end it with the alternate ending...
Insaneagram 2 months ago 3
its an adaptation of the book which means they are allowed to add and take things away from the story.
I personally love the american ending lets face it they were married and allowed to kiss lol
resalmeron 2 months ago
What a terrible film it was! How superior was the BBC series! I waited the whole film for the most famous opening line in English literature - in vain. The script writers had no sensitivity to the book at all, ugh!
TheGlitzieGirl1 3 months ago
@TheGlitzieGirl1 You have to be fair. This was a 2-hour movie. You can't compare it to a 5 hour long series, I agree that they should've added more lines instead of wasting time on silly montages (like Lizzy spinning on the swing or Lizzie standing by the cliff thinking about god knows what) but, it is what it is. It wasn't a terrible film, but the series was indeed better cast.
lpycb42 3 months ago
They were married! Hence why he said, Mrs Darcy . . . Bunch of bitter bitches wish they had Mr. Darcy! Virgin Jane Austen for that matter too!
britchesnhose 3 months ago
Just a note, I personally thought the ending with the sugary shit was a BIT too much, and it had nothing to do with the book not having a kiss because obviously you expect these two people never to kiss? no. they have to kiss sometime, so i don't really care on that account, but it just pained me to see Darcy so loveydovey. Though you could chalk it up to jealousy, I guess. xP
sleeksilverxo 3 months ago 2
That extra scene is like something out of Titanic.
linegenrou 4 months ago
They were married when they kissed! What's the big deal? I love the ending in that movie! I love the 1995 version, too. They're just different. The 2005 version is shortened and very fairy-tale like and love at first sight, but the 1995 version is more like the book and more realistic, but I love both!
truelovewaits94 4 months ago
I think this is much ado about nothing. The way Jane Austen describes in the book the scene between Elizabeth and Darcy, when she accepts his proposal, shows that there would have been words of love expressed. I quote: "The happiness which this reply produced was such as he had probably never felt before; and he expressed himself on the occasion as sensibly and as warmly as a man violently in love can be supposed to do." ... notice the word VIOLENTLY IN LOVE. Passion!
luvsdvds 4 months ago 3
Continuing on ... "Had Elizabeth been able to encounter his eyes, she might have seen how well the expression of heartfelt delight diffused over his face became him; but though she could not look she could listen; and he told her of feelings which, in proving of what importance she was to him, made his affection every moment more valuable." ........... I don't think they would have been standing a mile away while he was expressing his feelings to her. :-)
luvsdvds 4 months ago
Austen writes, describing Georgiana's reaction to the newlyweds: "Georgiana had the highest opinion in the world of Elizabeth; though at first she often listened with an astonishment bordering on alarm at her lively, sportive manner of talking to her brother. He, who had always inspired in herself a respect which almost overcame her affection, she now saw the object of open pleasantry." .... Sounds like a happily married couple to me, very much in love! :-)
luvsdvds 4 months ago
@luvsdvds Agreed! I found this passage in the book as well and found it to be very vague...basically leaving it to the reader's imagination! :)
amybw89 3 months ago
I'm American and I say that Jane Austen sure as hell was like that. She was passionate and romantic and that's what the ending was. Even if she didn't write it, she was thinking it! So it may not have been in their tme period, but I mean come on, they're married in the ending and that's what married coulpes who are in love do! If you don't like the ending don't watch the damn moive then, because that movie deserves to be rated as # 1 with all the other Pride and Prejudice movies!
peacelovelive61 4 months ago 3
i'm not American and i looooove the kiss scene, the non kiss version is kind of anti-climactic :(
IISPLURAL 4 months ago 2
Well for me its not the fact that they kissed, its the whole scene, it seriously made me cringe, it's just over the top mushiness. And yeah they did kiss in the 1995 version but it wasn't OTT.
I dont know why they made the film in the first place anyway, you can't best perfection and that is what the beeb did in '95 :)
as for lost in austen - that completely different they weren't sticking to the story, it was a complete skit. and mr. wickham was epic id choose him over darcy any day! :D
DeeDeeMcTree 5 months ago
I'm Irish so I'm kind of Switzerland here, and this might sound cheesy but it's all about pride and prejudice. The British shouldn't have been so full of pride and prejudice toward the Americans that they thought that they needed a more kissy ending. Without the US ending the movie was great, we knew it all ended happy between Darcy and Elizabeth and if they were going to put the scene in the us version why not put it in every version,Whats the difference!!!
lavaluv911 5 months ago 6
What's the big deal. It's not like they were making out in the middle of a party. End of the movie they are married and they love each other. It would be strange if they didn't show some affection. Besides Colin and Jennifer kissed in the BBC version too.
mmgringoire2 5 months ago 4
The entire movie was classic, and turned corny and cheesy on the kissing scene.
It's not about the kiss, it's the way they did it: she asking if he's happiest man in the world, he answering by calling her Mrs Darcy, reminding everyone of her success of becoming the righteous owner of all his wealth...
shengjinzhao 5 months ago
I hate it that they think just because we are "ugly Americans" that we need a different ending of the movie from the rest of the world. I like the book and the movie the way it was intended to be. Why would they be so ignorant to think that we Americans would want a sappier ending than the rest of the world? Why can we not be included?
thegirlwhooncewas 5 months ago
UUUUUGGGGGHHHHHH I swear the British & the "purists" are so full of it!!!!!!! Pride and prejudice was never a true story while, I am sure it did resemble the period P & P was written as a fictional novel for entertainment purposes and it was changed in the movies to include a kiss for the same reasons, Though I prefer the original my self ....oooooohhhh & I am American Imagine that! You know no one has brought up the British modern adaptation of P&P called "Lost in Austen" which includes a kiss
niamh2739 5 months ago
The kiss wasn't put in the book because it was not the social norm to Put kisses in Books. That does not mean there were NO Kisses back then. Married couples, who loved each other, definitely kissed. The 1995 version had a kiss and no one complained. I think both endings of this version are good.
alinasofya 5 months ago 57
@alinasofya nice argument :D
regina22333 1 month ago
i don't get why it matters. it's an adaptation, why does it have to be exactly like the book...? i thought the kiss was sweet and pure, it wasn't like it was some messy snog or whatever...
missrao2210 6 months ago 7
Why is it so important that they kissed at the end, they were married and I am sure Mr. Darcy and Elizabeth kissed even if they did not say they did in the book. I love the ending the whole time I watched it with my friends were saying KISS HER!!!!!
musicallover170 6 months ago 5
I am not American but I personally still like the alternate ending. The main argument is that it was not appropriate for the time period, but the kiss happens AFTER Lizzie and Darcy are married; making it completely appropriate. I am a huge Jane Austen fan, and I know that they can't make everything exactly like the book, but they made it more romantic and lush; and I personally find this ending more satisfying than the UK version. And what about the kiss in the BBC version?
elmomessi 6 months ago 34
Too schmaltzy for Jane Austen?...ALL OF HER BOOKS ARE ABOUT ROMANCE!! SHE IS THE DEFINITION OF SCHMALTZY!
And this is coming from a die-hard Jane Austen fan. I love all of her stories...the world needs more "schmalt" in it these days!
vivalavietv 6 months ago 8
I prefer the kissing ending. It's more romantic than.. "Oh we're married. The End." That would leave me unsatisfied. LOL
ashannevic 6 months ago 5
I'm American, and I believe either version is terribly romantic...kiss or no kiss!
SoftHeartConviction 7 months ago 5
Oh, heck, the kisses for both the BBC and the 2005 version were placed in after they were married. No, kisses are not in the book, but we can assume that they had kisses at some point in their married life. It was highly satisfying to see a kiss in both versions!
VonFisch1 7 months ago 9
@VonFisch1 Exactly ! This movie version ended with them newly married and enjoying a romantic moment alone at their home when they finally kiss and that was very acceptable and expected of newlyweds even of that time. While the book ends with the reactions of their engagement and a brief wrap up of the characters lives after the wedding, the film makers couldn't do that , so they showed them as the happy newlyweds the book describes . Personally I loved it
cisio64123 6 months ago 4
This is the period of time when a man and a woman couldn't kiss or even touch hands until marriage. This is a great scene and Darcy wanted to kiss her but he didn't out of respect. This is a pure and true love, one you don't see anymore.
crulx100 7 months ago 4
If you don't like the kiss scene, just skip over it.
akaolive 7 months ago
i'm from europe and i really wanted them to kiss!!!!!! I was so disappointed when they didn't. I mean one kiss should be fine right?:3
RenskeAnimeFan 7 months ago
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BlackWisps 7 months ago
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BlackWisps 7 months ago
Think about it, Americans want every love story to end in that one final kiss where guy gets girl. In a country where most people want to believe in living happily ever after this kiss was put in to make Americans happy. Name one huge franchise movie that didn't end with a kissing scene? I understand where people are coming from on how the kiss wasnt in the story but remember, movies are only based off the books, there is room for change. And I happen to be a fan of the book and the movies.
mrslogano19 7 months ago
I thought the kiss was absolutely fantastic. Hmph.
SamaraBurton 8 months ago 6
i hate when people say stupid things like, "it wasnt in the book, it totally ruined the movie". I didnt find the kiss scene a bad thing at all and saw it as more of an addition to the original story. it was an exellent movie.
rampage222555 8 months ago 6
No one fits mr Darcy better than collin firth!
willowbel 8 months ago
I saw the non kiss ending and it felt to abrupt to me. I never felt the final kiss scene was great, but after I saw the orginal ending I liked it. But I understand why book purists might hate it.
SusanBaudelaire 8 months ago
What people fail to realize is that the ending that American audiences saw was the ORIGINAL ending and was only cut from the UK version after negative previews. IT is not like America demanded the ending we got, rather the UK demanded the ending change to get the one they have.
ee32 8 months ago 4
Doesn't anybody get it people change a book to fit what people want!!
annielanier 8 months ago 2
wow so much controversy over a kiss... as an American...maybe we are more affectionate...& they were married... it was a happy ending with kisses! :)
hisgrace4u53 8 months ago
Good lord, there was only ONE kiss. Big whoop, I liked the movie. Mr. Darcy...yum.
BlackKat71 9 months ago 6
This is ridiculous! Darcy and Elizabeth OBVIOUSLY would have kissed in that time period once they were married, but it wouldn't have been published in the book because that would have made it more innapropriate for the time period. Nothing wrong with a good smooch once you're married :P
redhot654 9 months ago 12
I can't stand this movie (sappy and dull) but it's just silly to claim kissing was outside the social norms of that time.19th century novels did feature quite a bit of kissing. Heathcliff and Catherine kiss quite often in Wuthering Heights, Helen and Arthur kiss before they get married in The Tenant of Widfell Hall, jude and sue have an entire family out of wedlock in Jude the Obscure. Kissing is not a 21st century invention. In Mansfield Park Mary makes a joke about anal sex for heaven's sake.
morphinemoniza 9 months ago
@morphinemoniza THANK YOU!
thanksxforxthexvenom 8 months ago
I love the kiss and I've read the books and have bought the companion books by other authors
ashleighperry 9 months ago
HELL there complaining becuase there was only ONE kiss at the ending?? i was mad that there was only one kiss and not more!! haha i love the american one when the movie ended after that kiss i was like "that was it" but im still happy becuase it was sooooo romantic :) those puritans or whatever might think a simple hug wud be too much T.T
tomhulcelover 9 months ago 2
I like my US ending.
MyPaperBleedsInk 9 months ago
It wasn't the kiss that bothered me but the writing that seemed to veer the most away from what would be found in the story. It may have needed an update but that seemed to be a schmaltzy one, they're right. And I am Canadian, soooo...I didn't need that ending, I'm just saying.
thefinewino 10 months ago
I was surprised when yesterdaw watched the movie DVD and found this alternative ending.. when I watched the movie the first and second time (cause I love it) the ending was different... In any case I love Mr Darcy.. the character is of a misteruous man with an exquisite masculin voice!!! Love him!!
MaydiHermosa 10 months ago
I'm not a purist by any means, but I don't like this ending. I agree with this lady who says it's too "schmutzy" for Jane Austen. It's not the kissing that bothers me either, it's the bullshit and about "my pearl" and "goddess divine". WTF?
Penelope1261 11 months ago 6
i'm so sad... i got to watch the ending without the kissing scene... i've just watched the alternative beautiful ending with the kissing scene and said to myself what the fringe? this wasn't the ending i watched!
Alhuasa 11 months ago 2
im glad they put a kiss scene in it it was cute and mr. darcy's hot so why not?
orange3543 11 months ago 2
I'm one of the few who doesn't like the American ending. Not because I'm an "Austen purist", it's because it's just waayyy too soppy for my liking, and totally out of character. I mean, to make it all playful with the language - strong when they're angry, delicate when they're happy (or as near to it) - and then to have "You may call me Mrs. Darcy on weekends" or whatever... It just felt like such a let-down to the characters! :@
FoxySpiritOfJazz 11 months ago 2
If I were to just go by this video and what Matthew Macfadyen said (which I actually do not; I have friends from all over Europe), it would seem that Europeans are very "stick to the book 100%" types of people and are too cold to enjoy a sweet (sweet, not sappy) ending with only one real mouth to mouth kiss. And it's true we are living in different times and sometimes, to make a movie more favorable to the audience, you just gotta change some stuff. It's not like they were in bed for God's sake!
Shurii135 11 months ago
Personally, I love the end scene. Not because of the kiss, but because of the discussion about endearments. It was adorable!
simplylorina 11 months ago 3
I thought the American ending was way too sappy for my taste. haha
HarryPotterismyhome 11 months ago
this is to funny, for GODS sake at the end they we're married! do "Purist" not have sex? OR KISS!? whats the big deal? i have to read this book again
angel2rx 1 year ago
@angel2rx they are saying 'purist' as in staying true to the book
Chocoholic679 1 year ago 2
@Chocoholic679: got ya
angel2rx 1 year ago
WHAT nonsense!!!! I'm American and I totally love the non-kiss ending! Americans don't NEED to have kissy kissy in every movie we watch! It was cool and refreshing to see a movie without it!
DrawnByPencil 1 year ago 147
@DrawnByPencil Yes! I would be wounded in my pride by a silly prejudice like this, was I American ;). There are wonderful movies made in USA with sensual notes without being explicit. In fact a sensual gesture can be more thrilling than a kiss. How he glanced at her neck, when she played piano. The way their hands seem to tingle when they touched and most of all, the almost kiss at the pavillion!!! *sigh*
The kiss finale would be cute, in another movie.
NoldorianElf 1 year ago
@DrawnByPencil well I so want a kiss...I`m so in love with their love:)))
browneyedmaddie 7 months ago
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BlackWisps 7 months ago
@DrawnByPencil I agree. Not all Americans are sugary. I'm upset at how we're percieved
BlackWisps 7 months ago
@DrawnByPencil I heard about the American ending, and after my teenage daughters had watched the film (again!), we looked for it in the additional features menu where it was on the second page. We played it, and they weren't impressed! I couldn't believe that the American public needed it; and I'm pleased to see your response here.
Rearda 6 months ago
Right, we don't live in Jane Austin's world. Were she write the book today it would have ended with them in bed!
Estersadusky 1 year ago 3
Oh geez just don't watch the part passed the book's ending.
maskofmemories 1 year ago
I love the ending scene. They looked so happy together. It was cute and it was the perfect ending...for us Americans anyway. ;D
Austamala 1 year ago 3
Gosh even though it wasn't mentioned in the original book. I'm sure Jane Austen has a hidden raunchy second book of their married lives...
dongtian00 1 year ago 5
@dongtian00 lol I laughed so hard when I read your comment
Austamala 1 year ago
lol...seriously, arguing on kiss scene? I guess how ever the ending would be, impossible to please every one. So just enjoy the scene (or hate it if you wish)
sunnyvya 1 year ago 5
It was better with the new ending.
AnnaLeah27 1 year ago
Are people really arguing about this?
Seriously?
MegLayna 1 year ago 8
Were there ever complaints about the kiss that ended the BBC mini series?
topxbanana 1 year ago 118
Stupid useless reflection; The movie is based on the book but they were lots of difference between them including the scene. I LOVE IT, at the end I was "WTF, no kiss, no after-wedding-scene, no nothing ?" until this scene who gave us an idea of Lizzie and Darcy life after. It just enables us to have the perfect ending and move on without fustration. They should being that narrow minded, it's just a kiss.
Missnewyork28 1 year ago 4
personally, i adore pride and prejudice but hate both endings. the british one, it would've been nice to end with a kiss. movie closure and all. but the american one was a little overboard. the kiss at the end of the BBC series was perfect. thats how they should've ended it.
but i do think matthew macfayden is a gorgeous mr darcy.
DanceMagicDancing 1 year ago
i liked the kiss...O__O
i actually wished they had kissed a couple more times. LOL.
AND I'M NOT A PERV.
and i just love Elizabeth Bennett & Mr. Darcy together, and Keira Knightley & Matthew Macfadyen play those characters amazingly, with so much chemistry! even though i've seen the movie countless times, i'm always anticipating a kiss every single time i watch it again. ahahaha
azncutie727 1 year ago 6
JANE AUSTEN IS ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! who gives a d*** what americans think??! sorry x
bellabradley4ever 1 year ago
@bellabradley4ever thats a completely irrelevant argument...unnecessary.
juxaposed 1 year ago
uhm, i wish the people would be intelligent enough to know that mr. darcy HAD EVERY RIGHT TO KISS HER SINCE THEY WERE ALREADY MARRIED.. who wouldn't kiss his wife?? are they even thinking? let's all try to be a little MORE REALISTIC..
ciaron121709 1 year ago 4
Ha ha, think of all the heads that would roll if Lizzy and Darcy were married and kissing AND ROLLING AROUND ON TOP OF A BED.
wereallmadaroundhere 1 year ago 6
well i have to say i like both endings. I see no problem with the kissing scene and i also don't think that the movie would have been bad without it. i always watch it with the uk ending but afterwards if i want to i watch the us version just as an addition. everyone has different tastes so it's fine that some like it and some don't i just think it's wrong to say that something is better or worse.
KimiKate25 1 year ago 3
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I prefer the UK version with the amazing Donald Sutherland with tears in his eyes wrapping it up, but I like that I can watch the US kissing scene on youtube. Best of both worlds.
musicnugget5 1 year ago
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musicnugget5 1 year ago
In the end, this novel is inciting love. It's romance. A kiss is just another representation of their love for each other and Love itself. If you truly love someone, you don't only hug them, give a peck on the cheek - you kiss them. If there's a problem with showing affection because you love someone in the way this movie has been ended, then you will grow as an old spinster and live in a shoe with 100 cats.
broadworld 1 year ago 6
What the hell?! It's just a kiss! They're married! What is the big deal?! SUCK IT UP PEOPLE!!!!
RavenandKidFlash 1 year ago
i personally liked the movie. i also liked the A and E TV version.
there's nothing wrong with altering the book for the sake of big screen.
you want to widen the viewers not alienating them.
claus1225 1 year ago
We Americans want our happy ending with a kiss! Just give us that
lovethecurls 1 year ago
I <3 the american ending! It really couldn't be any better!
BBwoan 1 year ago 5
they don't actually kiss in the book. at all. there is little to describe them after marriage so its understandable that there isn't. its nice to see a jane austen adaptation that tays true to the book in all areas.
SongBird4Jesus27 1 year ago
@SongBird4Jesus27 i meant that for the uk version. in the uk version they do not kiss. though i was dissapointed it ended so abruptly. i have no desire to see the american version. is abit stupid if you ask me to change it for one country. if the director wanted a kiss in it he should have put it in for all versions.
SongBird4Jesus27 1 year ago
its a movie. has anyone ever seen a movie that was exactly the same as the book? get over it.
RiceCreme 1 year ago 4
GUYS THEY ARE MARRIED!! HE CALLS HER "MRS DARCY!!!" THEY WOULDNT HAVE BEEN ALONE BACK THEN IF THEY WERE NOT MARRIED! THEY ARE ALLOWED TO KISS WHEN THEY ARE MARRIED! geez people.
alanacarr 1 year ago 8
I after seeing the american ending i decide it was better that they didnt add it. was just tooooo cute??!! If they had had a kiss in the meadow that would have been alright..buh the american ending was just OC of the movie. the movie itself is OC for jane austin but thats not up for debate =]
nessacheng 1 year ago
This is ridiculous. It's a movie- of course they're going to kiss. Stick to the book if you don't like it. I'm not sure there's a version of P&P where Darcy and Elizabeth don't kiss... they even kissed in the 1940's version... before they were married! *GASP! What would puritans have to say to that??
JessFeser 1 year ago 4
But they kissed in tv series and no one complained?
xTheno1Jenzx 1 year ago 4
So what was the british ending? I've just finished seeing this adaptation here on youtube and then I learned that that one was the american version.
PuffyAmiYumi 1 year ago
@PuffyAmiYumi British ending was just Lizzy walking out of her fathers door, to Darcy I think, after she told her father she really loved Darcy. This was just added afterwards, so there is no special Britisch ending.
83MoonLightLover93 1 year ago
oh shut up. i have seen the us ending and its good. its not like raunchy it was a kiss god! an it happened in the other bbc 1995 version on one was cryin then! i wish it was on the british ending!
09IpodQueen 1 year ago 3
WTF??? Are you serious? the kisss is so small it's barley recognizable. Wow. So in britan they can have commercials with naked people, but God forbid they put one little smooch in a Jane Austen movie. TO SHMALTZY? uh, Jane austen's entitre book is shmaltzy, if by shmaltzy you mean mooshy and lovey dovey. wth?
YESHUAISMERCIFUL 1 year ago
@YESHUAISMERCIFUL
Lovey dovey? You've read Jane Austen, right? Romantic, I would accept, but in no point is Jane Austen lovey-dovey. Really, her books are more about politics than anything else.
idiotjello 1 year ago
I like the americain version ,its cute.
InevitableDarkFlame 1 year ago 2
Isn't it a bit patronising for the Americans? Anyhow, this movie was nothing like the book. I don't mind adaptations that stray a little from the source (I loved Disney's version of Hunchback of Notre Dame, so there you go) but the film had none of the novel's spirit. I doubt the writers even read the book- they could have called this film anything. Even then, it would be so-so.
I think I'm just going to make a really rubbish film and call it an adaptation of Hamlet. That'll get me money :)
missbabyice 1 year ago
@missbabyice I love this film, but I tend to view it as though it is seperate from the book. I think of the characters as being different from those in the book. That way I don't have to choose between the two, because I love them both. But I don't think any film is going to capture the real drama and spirit of the book. Just my opinion ;)
templarknight94 1 year ago 2
@missbabyice
YES. This was what I was thinking. Us Americans apparently have to be force-feed cheesy endings with a spoon in order for a movie to make money. And it wasn't a particularly good adaptation, IMO. Give me Colin Firth and being truthful to the books anyday.
idiotjello 1 year ago
If you don't like the kissing scene at the end, you can just watch the other version.
templarknight94 1 year ago 4
@templarknight94 That's what I do, I have the DVD with the extra ending scene in the added extras section.
I have watched the extra scene and I think it's alright because they're married but I prefer the original cut.
They just added one scene that the movie didn't need anyway, just because the US producers think all movies need a kiss ending.
G1NZOU 1 year ago
@G1NZOU I know, I do too. I have the American version on DVD, but I always skip the last scene before I see it. It helps me because I am a very imaginative person, I can then go on and think about what happened next as I want to, not as how some American producer saw it. I agree with you totally on the kiss thing! :)
It's not that I don't like the extra scene, as you said, but I prefer the original one too.
templarknight94 1 year ago
I really liked the fact that in the english version they didn't kiss, and thet just leant their heads together with the sun streaming through. I think it had something so sweet, personal and intimate that a kiss wasn't needed. That said, I adored the scene where they discuss names, and the repetition of "Mrs Darcy" I would have loved to have seen in the uk, but maybe ended it with their foreheads together again. It could have set itself up as their little "thing" which could have been quite cute
MagicalUnicorn22 1 year ago 6
@MagicalUnicorn22 The scene you talk of is on the movie.. they just added a scene which is after they are married and it is an amazing scene it is done with class..
yanks4602 1 year ago
i liked the ending! it was so perfect. it was like a relief to the audience's tension.
mirandalikespie 1 year ago
this movie was awesome. it couldn't have been done any better
RapturePreparer 1 year ago
Personally, I can take or leave the ending where they were sitting outside Pemberley discussing pet names, but before that, I did think it was rather strange for Elizabeth to kiss Mr. Darcy's hand when she accepted his second proposal (of sorts).
SilverScreenLee 1 year ago
I don't see what the big fuss is all about really. I mean the movie is an "adaptation" of the book, just like every other book that's been made into a movie. That means that it gives filmmakers a bit of liberty to change what they feel would appeal more to the audience. In my opinion, the tension between Elizabeth and Darcy throughout the entire movie was so intense, that I was so relieved to see a kiss between them. Was this an issue with the final kiss in the 1995 version with Colin Firth?
Candican2 1 year ago
i'm an american and when i saw the scene (before i knew it was an alternate ending) i thought it seemed odd and unnecessary. Like it really didnt fit in with the rest of the movie.... and i'm by no means a purist
onamor8 1 year ago 4
@onamor8 Exactly, it just feels like a quick extra that they glued on to the end.
G1NZOU 1 year ago
I enjoyed the kissing scene, honestly since I was in high school and read this book for the pure pleasure of it, I wanted to see Darcy and Elizabeth kiss, since I thought "damn, this sucker definately needs to smooch her, after all the tension". And when this movie came out and saw the alternate ending, am like finally. So yeah I loved it, and hell no am no purist but these suckers definately needed to kiss.
Nicoya80 1 year ago 6
I think if you were to discuss the "purity" of this movie, you would not just discuss the kiss scene. The entire movie is not really true to Austen. Darcy's character is softened a lot in the movie, and they are completely out of character at times. So honestly, the kiss is not a big deal. The movie was cute.
And I may be wrong here, but I think, "he expressed himself on the occasion as sensibly and as warmly as a man violently in love can be supposed to do" is the expression of a kiss.
aliceinvunderland 1 year ago 4
WHO CARES!?! Stop complaining, get over it, there's worse things in the world to worry about
cooljane2 1 year ago
luuvvv this movie
sellysWeetsk8zr 1 year ago
personalmente ame esa escena, porque muestra lo felices que son finalmente despues de todas las viscisitudes por las que atraviesan, y lo infelices que son hasta que concretan su amor. solamente la vi en el dvd, porque la version que pasan por tv, al menos en argentina, termina con la escena del sr. bennet en su biblioteca.
fouette83 1 year ago
The dialogue in the kiss scene is so lame...and i don't know, that whole scene seems so unnessecary!!!
Basicly it sucks.
MISCKAB 1 year ago
Controversy?
Jesus, T_T
Lenne015 1 year ago
I remember seeing this movie at it's premier when I lived in Sweden, and it have the ending without the kiss. It was beautiful and all, but to be perfectly honest, I would have prefered the alternate ending with the kiss, since I felt left hanging, wanting to see more when it ended. It's a movie, no movie ever takes 100% of a book into it. Don't see the big fuss over changing some small things.
ChouHimaDakedo 1 year ago
I don't live in either country, so that kinda makes me the third person right? Well, I think the kiss scene is beautiful, and I don't see anything wrong with it. The movie stays true to the essence of the novel, and that's what matters the most in making an adaptation. I think the kiss completes the happiness of the couple, not compromising it. Furthermore, if it's the American's way of thinking, so be it. We shouldn't complain whatsoever.
aliceflamin 1 year ago
oh c'mon. this is nonsense. wawawa. all the whining.
Beatleschick1 1 year ago 2
i watched the movie without the alternative ending and my mother and I, we loved the movie overall by the way, felt that the movie was just left... hanging. we wanted to know what happened to them afterward :( i was happy to find that they had an Alt. ending :)
tsunade105 1 year ago 6
Ending the movie without the kiss at the end would not have gone over well with American audiences, which is what they realized and why they added it. We expect SOMETHING at the end and not just loving glances at each other. We don't feel satisfied without it. I'm glad they added it for us!! No movie will ever be like the book, and the book will always be better. Get over it! You'd be surprised how many movies are based on books and how changed everything is.
xxcpxx 1 year ago 4
NO movie is EXACTLY like the book. And a movie is fantasy. And its most girls fantasy to see Mr Darcy and Elizabeth kiss. If you don't like the kiss scene, don't watch it. That simple. I personally thought the kiss scene was beautiful and tasteful compared to some of the stuff thats shown in movies today.
SKRIBLSKULL 1 year ago 5
I think this version is the best... Loved this movie... (and even more Matthew Macfadyen)...!!!!
ARLOPA 1 year ago 3
i liked the kiss at the end ! i felt like the movie wouldnt have been complete without it
Jessluv7 1 year ago
@Jessluv7 i´m agree.... even so, I think it´s a wonderful movie.... and I totally fell in love with Mr. Dracy... hehehe
ARLOPA 1 year ago 2
I'm honestly not surprised that they threw in a kissing scene--it was bound to happen, in my opinion. No movie is exactly like the book. Ever.
And what's wrong with it? Did people not kiss back then? Hahaha.
Like others say, the two get married anyway, whatever version you read/watch, so if they didn't kiss...what kind of marriage is -that-?? I do like the original ending, but I don't think there's anything wrong with the alternative.
souliana 1 year ago
to schmalzy? was heisst das?
xAngelSmiLex 1 year ago
He calls her Mrs Darcy so they would have been married. I like it either way, but I had seen the American version with the kiss at the end first and was like "Something is missing" after seeing the other version. I didn't really see a difference in the movie versions besides the kiss. I love the book and the Keira version no matter what.
mamashirl69 1 year ago
So what if they kissed!? I honestly wouldn't like the movie any less either way. It's not like they're ramming their tongues down each other's throats. And of course, it IS a movie, and as you may know most movies only follow the book to a certain point. Not to mention that they ARE married when the kiss takes place, so it really isn't scandalous or controversial.
xlittlexjay2 1 year ago
As an American, I didn't like the ending either. Has anyone seen the original ending? I would like to see it.
Thanks.
roseijaz 1 year ago
I agree with them, that they would not have kissed that much back then. For them to have kissed at all before their marriage would have been scandalous. But I don't really mind it in the movie. by the way, efido008, at the end of the 1995 version, they kissed after their marriage, which would have been acceptable.
voyagerfanatic 1 year ago
@voyagerfanatic but they did get married they just did not show it, in the end he called her mrs. darcy which would show that they were married
stubornbutterflygrl 1 year ago
i hated that ending, it was frickin wayy too cheesy, i mean it was seriously embarrassing to watch...
aha Mathew Mcfadyen said British audience would hate it! Agreed entirely! hahahaha
1o951o8 1 year ago
I'm actually bemused as to why no one has mentioned the rain scene whilst criticizing the romance in this film. It is supposed to be the least romantic scenario with the way he formally addresses the matter yet in the film its the most romantic scene. (and it appears as though Elizabeth actually wants to kiss Darcy)
Im from England and i personally prefer the American ending. In the book they got married so the kiss was as good as implied.
kavalerie123 1 year ago 36
@kavalerie123
well im from england and i think if Jane Austen thought they should have kissed than they would have...but she didn't so it shouldn't be in the film
olivia13isawesome 10 months ago
@olivia13isawesome everyone has diffrent versions of movies from books, get over it
tomhulcelover 9 months ago
@tomhulcelover
theres nthn to get over i have my ending..,
olivia13isawesome 9 months ago
these purists need to stfu and be more romantic.
broadworld 1 year ago 8
i actually liked the international ending with mr. bennet better, but i entirely understand why they would add the scene.
personally, though, i think one kiss would have sufficed, without the whole "controversial" dialogue.
kingtothis 1 year ago 5
At the end of the day this was an adaptation of the classic book so therefore a little bit of artistic licence is to be expected. Personally I prefer the British/European ending but each to their own. And as someone mentioned earlier, the ending to the 1995 version had a kiss so I don't understand what all the fuss is about.
majikminx 1 year ago 5
i think it is perfectly fine and understandable --- of course they are married and like mentioned by other commentors, it does say in the novel that they are exceedingly affectionate for the time... i think the scene provided good closure yet kept the idea of the book
normally i don't like "kissy" movies, but i think the closing scene worked well
oneofakind93 2 years ago 115
@oneofakind93 The kiss was fine, but the lame dialog that Knightly wrote for the scene just killed the ending for me. It sounded anachronistic, especially that goddess bit.
angerdux8 1 year ago
omg. people want a kiss lol. boo hoo lol
RoRoCherryBOMB 2 years ago 4
there was a kiss at the end of the 1995 version as well, and I don't remember hearing all these arguments about it...
efido008 2 years ago 10
I've seen both the 1995 version, this one, and read the book, and I must say that though there is no actual kiss in the book, Lizzy does say that Georgiana was shocked by the affection shown between her brother and Lizzy after their marriage when she moved to Pemberly. Lizzy says that she had to explain to Georgiana that it is alright to show love when you are marriaged, as she and Mr. Darcy are.
MemDaniels 2 years ago 3
Wow, I cannot imagine this movie without some sort of a kiss. I'm so glad they put it in. It's a love story for heaven's sake. And I agree with the poster who said if you want an exact replica of the book, go watch a documentary. This is a movie, we watch movies for entertainment purposes. And they were married by the time of the kiss so no social rules of the day were broken. geesh.
osucrewof4 2 years ago 9
(continued...) arrogant, proud or insensitive on the outside appearance or how we carry ourselves towards a new acquaintance but still when it comes to the power of love... we all would admit that we are blinded by our first impressions which is so SAD :( Luckyly - this book/movie gave us happiness in everyways possible. Peace.
asianographer 2 years ago
IMO, I guess we just need to be open-minded with regard to how the ending was geared or set-up to fit various types of expectators. The bottom-line of this movie & the book of course, is to let everyone know that we may all look harsh, difficult-to-deal-with, (continued...)
asianographer 2 years ago
to be honest i like the movie more than the book because the kiss.
mm austen resume everything .. i like the detailed books
in the book ...theres no love, i mean all starts in pemberly really?
torres3567 2 years ago 3
ughhg....if the puritans want a realistic movie, go watch a documentary. Joe Wright's Pride and Prejudice was what a movie should be - a wonderful, fantasy-like experience. I wouldn't want to watch it any other way.
wasoobi 2 years ago 86
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stubornbutterflygrl 1 year ago
its a movie..u kidding me...its geared for manufacturing to sappy young women like me..i loved the book and loved the movie..some are just too uptight man,
myemilrob 2 years ago 7