I believe that the majority of the Cassie story is true. Her mother wrote a memoir about her and in it it said she only started believing in God a few weeks before the shooting. As for whether or not her life depending on her answer to a simple question...no one can know that for sure.
The poor martyrs .... I think the shooters were emo... but what pushed them to hate to much they would break and kill people? If you stand up for something and want to be a martyr... lets stand up for whats right and stop bullies from hurting others. Then maybe we wont have to see any more school shootings.
its true that rock and metal are some of the truest genres in music today. it seems that all mainstream talks about now is the typical-sex, drugs, money, and degrading women. aside from the message, rock and metal are just better overall!!!
What don't you understand about Cassie? Here is the story: Cassie was went through most of her life without Jesus. She got into some really bad stuff, the book explains it well. Then she went to a youth thing and Jesus came into her life! He totally changed her life. One day she went to school and that day they had a school shooting. One of the kids came up to her and asked her if she believed in God and she said yes. So she was shot and died for Jesus. You are never guaranteed tomorrow.
the story is more than this. look up about columbine shooting
its been proven by witnesses the story isnt true, the only person to witness cassie bernal get shot, has CONFIRMED that she was not asked anything about god. Its also believe that rachel was not asked either.
Its a heart warming tale, but its just not really what happened. The girls who did get asked if they believed in god, actually survived the shooting. its just a bunch of mixed up information
wow seriously everyone who watches these vids and then debates about whats being said or what point is being put across are dumb. if i'm being honest. music is music, it's passion, it's belief. i think music is someones way of being who they are and it should remain that way.. it should be something you can do without judgment. because if we cant express ourselves through art, what the hell do we have? so let's leave music as a beautiful thing. let's not ruin it's purity with pointless arguments
their songs just trying to figure out what life is all bout and pat seals said that you must be happy of what god gives you...and that's why fully alive...huhuhuh...
Ehem. LOOK OUT SIDE!!!!! there is proof of God's existence everywhere! if you see a rock, that's proof. a tree. that's proof. God Made all that by the way!
Haha. Yes. I don't think a rock is proof in God existing. I don't think there is really any proof. You just have to believe and have faith in him. That's proof enough, isn't it?
@Drucef Faith may not be proof for you. But it is for alot of us. Let Christians be. People like you are so annoying. Coming on to any video that has something to do with God and preaching to everyone that we are "living a lie". Seriously what does it matter to you people that we have faith? I just don't get it? Let people believe what they want.
@SkylarAlyxis: Faith is not proof...that's why it's called FAITH. That Cameron guy and I just discussed this like a month ago. This is WHY you believe in God. You are an idiot and you're just simply not smart. Anyway, no, I won't let Christians be. Religion is divisive. It separates groups of people and causes endless amounts of bloodshed...over something stupid. You worship a God that will send someone to hell for not worshipping him...why would I leave you alone? Moron.
@Drucef I beleive in salvation I believe in my soul. And define smart? According to science it's having a high IQ, expansive vocabulary, and over all being knowledgable in many things such as politics, history, and philosophy. In that case I am indeed 'SMART'. You don't know me or any other true Christians obviously. I can see it unnerves you that some people have faith and something to believe in.
@Drucef Moron? I must say that's an intellegent strategy at argument if I've ever heard one ;] I suppose your calling people who were world changing figures in history MORONS too. I guess that makes Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr, and Mother Teresa [along with many other people too] morons. Oh boy, you just enlightened me so much! =D
@SkylarAlyxis: Lots of people who don't follow religion are world changing figures. You just have no response so you use the, "oh well calling names isn't a smart debate tactic...". Someone with a high IQ would realize that faith is not evidence, so you are in fact a moron. Nice try.
@Drucef You are clumping anyone with spirituality into one category which is infact "moronic" as you say. There's a very fine line between science and spirituality. I don't consider myself "religious" but I am infact spiritual. And no sir, why don;t you look at the percentage of scientists who believe in God, or perhaps the amount of students in top ivy leagure schools that believe in God, or maybe JUST the people wih high IQs that believe. Someone needs to doi their research ;]
@Drucef That's not to say being spiritual makes you intellegent. That's to "rpove" that being spiritual has nothing to do with being intellegent. Infact heres some scientists in history who believed in God: Nicholas Copernicus, Sir Francis Bacon,Galileo Galilei, Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein. That's just a few (:
So good luck competing with those, I'm just bwaiting for you to claim that those history making scientists are morons. ONCE AGAIN, my point is not the "prove" you aren;t smart unless you believe in God. It's to prove your indeed wrong when you so narrow mindedly clump billions of people into a category of being "stupid". And I thought it was us believers that were deemed as narrow minded ;]
@SkylarAlyxis: Well I can't find my original post but my claim to why people like you are stupid and ignorant is because you actually believe your God exists the way the bible says it does. There are billions of other people who don't agree with you, yet you still think you're right because you're blind and ignorant. There is no evidence for your beliefs, plain and simple.
@Drucef People like me are stupid because...we believe in God and then when people like you shove crap down our throat about how we are stupid because we believe, we stand up for ourselves? Because what I see here, is YOU on a Christian video insulting all Christians seemingly trying very hard to convert us. When there's litterally nothing to convert to.
@SkylarAlyxis: Speaking of intelligence, your last few sentences don't make a bit of sense. Understanding that maybe a God exists, maybe one doesn't is much more wise than asserting that one does. Claiming you know one does just makes you look really fucking stupid.
@Drucef It's not so much that I am hard set on my beliefs about God sir. I have over analyzed it many MANY times. But it's a belief, like an opinion. And if you can't handle other people's opinions then your going to have a very bitter time on this Earth. I'm the Christian here and I'm not trying to forces my beleifs on anyone. Quite ironicaly it always seems the bashing Athiests that come on here.
@Drucef Don't get me wrong I know alot of open minded respectful Athiests, but you are as I can see...obviously not one of them. Just as I know alot of close minded Christians who indeed try to force their own religion down other people's throats. Now isn't that the thing Athiests don't like? Yet the ones like you, are just as ignorant and stupid for shoving their own beliefs down people's throats
@SkylarAlyxis I'm not an atheist dimwit. Your comprehension skills suck. Yeah, it's pretty sad when people in the 21st century believe in fairy tales. It's not helping progress our civilization. In fact, it's holding us back, so I have the right to be pretty pissed off and I'm in the right to bash you morons.
@Drucef Yeah well obviously you arenlt getting the point here. My comprehnsion skills suck? And I assumed you were Atheist because you believe there absoluetly is no God and think anyone who believes is an idiot? That is correct? Because Agnostics usually don't bash Theists, they can be irritated at having crap shoved down their throat but they usually aren't like you.
@Drucef Now your saying my comphrehension skills suck because you really have nothing else to say and you don't have the emotional capacity to admit everyone has right to their own beleifs. I sence you are a control freak? I am in no way trying to prove God exists here dude. Just saying that the billions of people who don't share your opinion are not 'stupid'. That's an ignorant statement sir.
@SkylarAlyxis: 1. I didn't say I believe for certain there is no God. I don't know. Asserting that God exists as fact or that he doesn't exist as fact are both fucking stupid. 2. Yes, people are stupid for believing in fairy tales with no evidence. That has nothing to do with opinion. 3. You said you are smart because you have a high IQ and blah blah, but you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're" and again, you believe in fairy tales with no evidence.
@Drucef You have simply said believing in God makes someone stupid. And it has everything to do with opinion being that opinions, like beliefs, cannot be proven. You can't prove your opinions and your opinions are not a fact. So sir, if you think anyone who has a differen't opinion than you is stupid. Then I respect that you have your own opinion. Good luck with like on that one.
@Drucef Then you are Agnostic, yes? It's quite ignorant and unrational of you to use to call someone a dimwit for assuming you were Atheist, being that you didn't specify that until the end there ;] You seem to be dead set on your opinion that billions of people on this planet are stupid and you are indeed smarter than all of them. Quite arrogant of you to claim such a thing I must say. One day you'll learn everyone will always be different....Or maybe not. Who knows.
@Drucef You come off as a very bitter person. People who don't believe the same way you do are instantly labled as stupid. No matter how much a higher education they might have than you, no matter how many years of wisdom they have on you, and no matter how much over all knowledge they have on you. That one little tiny belief automically makes you smarter than them. I see.
@SkylarAlyxis: Pretty much. Once your IQ exceeds room temperature (if that happens), you may understand that belief is retarded without evidence. Thanks for playing.
@Drucef Evidence or proof is percieved differently as people come of different personas. And you'll see that your belief that you in smarter than billions of people who believe in God would also require "evidence". There's plenty of proof of the holocaust yet a great population of Muslims doesn't believe it ever existed? EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinion sir (:
@SkylarAlyxis: No, evidence can be tested. It has nothing to do with your emotions or opinions or where someone is from. That's the most retarded thing I have ever heard. There's no way to test the existence of your god so there's no reason to believe he exists the way you perceive. Btw, there is evidence of the holocaust, yes...so if an entire population doesn't believe it happend, that makes them IGNORANT and stupid. It has nothing to do with opinion. It has everything to do with logic.
@Drucef Yeah and the point here, that you obviously still haven't gotten is that everyone has the right to their own opinion. Having your own belief does not make you stupid. But I guess that is your opinion and I respect it sir.
@SkylarAlyxis: Actually, Drucef has a point. He might be arrogant and kind of a dick, but belief is pretty pointless without evidence. I wouldn't give my life for Jesus just because the bible tells me he exists. Flyleaf rocks though!
@XSDarkMoonZX Yeah and I respect that, but that's my point. He's saying that anyone who believe's in God is stupid no matter what. He's said it numerous times. My problem isn't his choosing not to believe in anything, it's him saying that smart people can't believe in God. But thank you for not being a dick (:
@XSDarkMoonZX Christopher Columbus didn't really have evidence that the world was round either though he discovered the truth. You sound like a little girl, I don't want to scare your little atheist freak mind- go play or should I say " Go find your missing link little girl" ,,Lacey Rocks!
@turquoiseraven72: LOL....wow, you really are simple aren't you? Do you know why Christopher Columbus originally thought the Earth was round? Well, because evidence suggested so. There's no evidence for your flying spaghetti monster. You can't win the argument. You don't even have an argument. You just tried to insult me by calling me a monkey or something. You're right...Christians obviously haven't evolved. LOL
@XSDarkMoonZX Flying Spaghetti monster(lol) Now that is funny. Boy, I feel I must of hit a nerve with (I'm guessing a little boy) you and your emotions. You see Foe, I'm glad you little freaks aren't believers because you would tear down our stature with your silly comments. You cannot see beyond yourself therefore you limit your powers,which I know from your response you lack. Sad Mortal Dead Matter..
@XSDarkMoonZX You sound like a pathetic little influential girl, so sorry for your problems honey but, it's time to grow out of them and face the world. Atheist Freaky girl.
@XSDarkMoonZX your the one who accused me of worshipping a flying spaghetti monster and I'm typical? I have no logical argument? You obviously have double digit I.Q and it seems your a 13 yr.old little girl-so why would I engage in conversation w/u? Yawn.. goodbye little, spoon-fed robot.
@Drucef lol, Thanks for playing? You wanna play with me some? Because I don't play nicely with you Atheist Freaks? After you go and find your missing link smart guy, why don't you come back over here and explain why your monkey ass is so passionately against Christians. For I am one and let the games begin!
@Drucef Drucef thinks he's a smart little guy.. Drucef don't believe in big spirit. Drucef want everyone to believe as he. Drucef dead inside and seething with anger.
@turquoiseraven72: I have already had this conversation. You said you wanted an argument, yet you brought nothing to the table, so I laughed at you just like I laugh at most typical brainwashed creatards. Try to bring something intelligent to the table...if you can.
i have the book and it really got me interested its really nice and its form her mom i think ppl can learn alot from cassie btw LLLLLOVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEE FLYLEAF
So my mom was right.. this song is about two boys who brought guns and started shooting then asked this girl if she believes in God and she said yes so he said well go meet him or something and shot her? i probably got some stuff wrong
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how can u love cassie's story? thats horrible. its ok to like the song but the story is a totally different thing, thats like saying you like the fact that two girls got shot in the face during a school shooting
cant you see the good in that tho?? cassie and rachels story touched flyleaf so much that they made a song about it. and now that very song is touching kids all over. god uses people for a reason. think about it :]
cant you see the good in that tho?? cassie and rachels story and faith touched flyleaf soo much that they made a song about it. and now that very song is touching kids all around. god uses people for a reason and cassie and rachel died so that millions of others can hear their story and may be brought closer to him.
i doubt she lost her virginity before 13, cus her first boyfriend she said wasn't until 13. but w/e who really cares. haha anyways you guys should read that book it's called "she said yes" or more specifically on rachel's story that one is called "rachel's tears"
Of course Lacey isnt virgin she did drugs since 10, she was always looking for a reason to live so obliviously she tested "sex" on a early age, i am sure she lost her virginity before 13... sadly :(
not really. and who cares if she is or not, what does that have to do with anything. and im sure shes not if shes 27 and married once, but who cares, shes amazing and thats all that matters.
1cyblu3z I too always wondered if Sameer and Lacey have(or had) something goin on with eachother...so there's nothing wrong in asking...plus I think they would make a cute couple. ^_^
P.S: but I also agree with others that think Pat and Lacey would be cute together as well, lol.
I believe that the majority of the Cassie story is true. Her mother wrote a memoir about her and in it it said she only started believing in God a few weeks before the shooting. As for whether or not her life depending on her answer to a simple question...no one can know that for sure.
DarkHeartInTheSky 2 weeks ago
The poor martyrs .... I think the shooters were emo... but what pushed them to hate to much they would break and kill people? If you stand up for something and want to be a martyr... lets stand up for whats right and stop bullies from hurting others. Then maybe we wont have to see any more school shootings.
vorvolakas1 5 months ago
Why did they put Lacey and the band in the description instead of Flyleaf?
GirlVideoGamePodcast 9 months ago
its true that rock and metal are some of the truest genres in music today. it seems that all mainstream talks about now is the typical-sex, drugs, money, and degrading women. aside from the message, rock and metal are just better overall!!!
oJUDAYALo 1 year ago
You go girl! (Lacey)
ParamoreLvrRIOT 1 year ago
when i first saw this i noticed she was speaking really quietly.
GloomySunset 1 year ago
By the way, witchcraft isn't a dark religion. Witchcraft is actually a Christian sect. It seems as though this band hasn't done their research.
Drucef 1 year ago
i agree with lacey. stand up for what you believe in!
ParamoreLvrRIOT 1 year ago
so it was like jesus' fault cassie died?
psychobabe567 1 year ago
Pantera are heavy metal, not rock
justanna6 2 years ago
i dont understand anything :D what about cassie??
fallingapartallover 2 years ago
What don't you understand about Cassie? Here is the story: Cassie was went through most of her life without Jesus. She got into some really bad stuff, the book explains it well. Then she went to a youth thing and Jesus came into her life! He totally changed her life. One day she went to school and that day they had a school shooting. One of the kids came up to her and asked her if she believed in God and she said yes. So she was shot and died for Jesus. You are never guaranteed tomorrow.
tyedyeduckie 2 years ago 17
@tyedyeduckie
the story is more than this. look up about columbine shooting
its been proven by witnesses the story isnt true, the only person to witness cassie bernal get shot, has CONFIRMED that she was not asked anything about god. Its also believe that rachel was not asked either.
Its a heart warming tale, but its just not really what happened. The girls who did get asked if they believed in god, actually survived the shooting. its just a bunch of mixed up information
thisphotoisproof 8 months ago 2
type in cassie bernal myth or cassie bernal story...i think it may be spelled Bernall though...im not sure
SaXoNcHiCk12 2 years ago
i agree with them and what they stand for they rock!
IamsoRANDOMitsunreal 2 years ago 7
i live in colorado!!:)
great message
Marcus80233 2 years ago 2
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i don't love flyleaf....BUT I LOVE!! THE LYRICS OF THERE SONG
saintz4851 2 years ago
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i don't love flyleaf....BUT!!!! I LOVE THE LYRICS OF THERE SONG!!!!!
saintz4851 2 years ago
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i don't love flyleaf!!! but... I LOVE THE LYRICS OF THERE SONG
saintz4851 2 years ago
I'm not love flyleaf!!! but... i love the lyrics of there song it so inspirational, this band is so bless..hope guyz you play it to our majesty!!!!
saintz4851 2 years ago
oh shut up. It seems like everything flyleaf do is contradicted or made into a major issue or there has to be some kind of contoversy about it.
HoldYourColourLeila 2 years ago
wow seriously everyone who watches these vids and then debates about whats being said or what point is being put across are dumb. if i'm being honest. music is music, it's passion, it's belief. i think music is someones way of being who they are and it should remain that way.. it should be something you can do without judgment. because if we cant express ourselves through art, what the hell do we have? so let's leave music as a beautiful thing. let's not ruin it's purity with pointless arguments
willtaraluvr90 2 years ago 4
Couldn't agree more. Well said.
jaredbradburn 2 years ago 5
*slow clap*
*slow clap spreads*
*large audiance starts clapping faster*
*clapping and cheering*
pointypencil1 2 years ago
Can I put it better myself...no. No I cant. Well said!
craigSimons00 2 years ago 2
Nirvana cliche? wtf
SwtSacrfc3 2 years ago
Because every post-Grunge band is inspired by Nirvana and Pantera.
xSPLENDAx 2 years ago 3
there totally is proof. oh my gosh, i love lacey so much!
annabanana26000 2 years ago
lacey has been though a lot in her life, i feel sorry for her
Acaidency 2 years ago
yeah...all of them are christian dude...
their songs just trying to figure out what life is all bout and pat seals said that you must be happy of what god gives you...and that's why fully alive...huhuhuh...
olikez 3 years ago 4
i love their songs. just one quick question..are they a christian band??
fancyphotographer 3 years ago 2
nevermind lol i just watched other videos..and found my answer :)
fancyphotographer 3 years ago
If someone one asked me if i believed in God I wouold totally say yes!!
even if it ment death i dont care!
AlexLue7 3 years ago 20
totally agree :D
axlchik2luvaubrey 3 years ago
me too
nixiethepixiepandora 3 years ago
me three ^>^
Razu985 3 years ago
why believe in something with no proof?
sameelatif 3 years ago
Ehem. LOOK OUT SIDE!!!!! there is proof of God's existence everywhere! if you see a rock, that's proof. a tree. that's proof. God Made all that by the way!
blackbellelove 2 years ago 3
your lack of ability to think for yourself sickens me
sameelatif 2 years ago
if you genuinly think that is valid proof then why christianity over islam or hinduism, im just curious
sameelatif 2 years ago
...how does seeing a rock prove anything about god? that just proves that rocks are not invisible...lol.
astrozombie777 2 years ago
Haha. Yes. I don't think a rock is proof in God existing. I don't think there is really any proof. You just have to believe and have faith in him. That's proof enough, isn't it?
CameronpaigeX 1 year ago
@CameronpaigeX: Ha, you again. No, faith isn't proof...sorry.
Drucef 1 year ago
@Drucef Faith may not be proof for you. But it is for alot of us. Let Christians be. People like you are so annoying. Coming on to any video that has something to do with God and preaching to everyone that we are "living a lie". Seriously what does it matter to you people that we have faith? I just don't get it? Let people believe what they want.
SkylarAlyxis 1 year ago
@SkylarAlyxis: Faith is not proof...that's why it's called FAITH. That Cameron guy and I just discussed this like a month ago. This is WHY you believe in God. You are an idiot and you're just simply not smart. Anyway, no, I won't let Christians be. Religion is divisive. It separates groups of people and causes endless amounts of bloodshed...over something stupid. You worship a God that will send someone to hell for not worshipping him...why would I leave you alone? Moron.
Drucef 1 year ago
@Drucef I beleive in salvation I believe in my soul. And define smart? According to science it's having a high IQ, expansive vocabulary, and over all being knowledgable in many things such as politics, history, and philosophy. In that case I am indeed 'SMART'. You don't know me or any other true Christians obviously. I can see it unnerves you that some people have faith and something to believe in.
SkylarAlyxis 1 year ago
@Drucef Moron? I must say that's an intellegent strategy at argument if I've ever heard one ;] I suppose your calling people who were world changing figures in history MORONS too. I guess that makes Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr, and Mother Teresa [along with many other people too] morons. Oh boy, you just enlightened me so much! =D
SkylarAlyxis 1 year ago
@SkylarAlyxis: Lots of people who don't follow religion are world changing figures. You just have no response so you use the, "oh well calling names isn't a smart debate tactic...". Someone with a high IQ would realize that faith is not evidence, so you are in fact a moron. Nice try.
Drucef 1 year ago
@Drucef You are clumping anyone with spirituality into one category which is infact "moronic" as you say. There's a very fine line between science and spirituality. I don't consider myself "religious" but I am infact spiritual. And no sir, why don;t you look at the percentage of scientists who believe in God, or perhaps the amount of students in top ivy leagure schools that believe in God, or maybe JUST the people wih high IQs that believe. Someone needs to doi their research ;]
SkylarAlyxis 1 year ago
@Drucef That's not to say being spiritual makes you intellegent. That's to "rpove" that being spiritual has nothing to do with being intellegent. Infact heres some scientists in history who believed in God: Nicholas Copernicus, Sir Francis Bacon,Galileo Galilei, Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein. That's just a few (:
SkylarAlyxis 1 year ago
@Drucef
So good luck competing with those, I'm just bwaiting for you to claim that those history making scientists are morons. ONCE AGAIN, my point is not the "prove" you aren;t smart unless you believe in God. It's to prove your indeed wrong when you so narrow mindedly clump billions of people into a category of being "stupid". And I thought it was us believers that were deemed as narrow minded ;]
SkylarAlyxis 1 year ago
@SkylarAlyxis: Well I can't find my original post but my claim to why people like you are stupid and ignorant is because you actually believe your God exists the way the bible says it does. There are billions of other people who don't agree with you, yet you still think you're right because you're blind and ignorant. There is no evidence for your beliefs, plain and simple.
Drucef 1 year ago
@Drucef People like me are stupid because...we believe in God and then when people like you shove crap down our throat about how we are stupid because we believe, we stand up for ourselves? Because what I see here, is YOU on a Christian video insulting all Christians seemingly trying very hard to convert us. When there's litterally nothing to convert to.
SkylarAlyxis 1 year ago
@SkylarAlyxis: Speaking of intelligence, your last few sentences don't make a bit of sense. Understanding that maybe a God exists, maybe one doesn't is much more wise than asserting that one does. Claiming you know one does just makes you look really fucking stupid.
Drucef 1 year ago
@Drucef It's not so much that I am hard set on my beliefs about God sir. I have over analyzed it many MANY times. But it's a belief, like an opinion. And if you can't handle other people's opinions then your going to have a very bitter time on this Earth. I'm the Christian here and I'm not trying to forces my beleifs on anyone. Quite ironicaly it always seems the bashing Athiests that come on here.
SkylarAlyxis 1 year ago
@Drucef Don't get me wrong I know alot of open minded respectful Athiests, but you are as I can see...obviously not one of them. Just as I know alot of close minded Christians who indeed try to force their own religion down other people's throats. Now isn't that the thing Athiests don't like? Yet the ones like you, are just as ignorant and stupid for shoving their own beliefs down people's throats
SkylarAlyxis 1 year ago
@SkylarAlyxis I'm not an atheist dimwit. Your comprehension skills suck. Yeah, it's pretty sad when people in the 21st century believe in fairy tales. It's not helping progress our civilization. In fact, it's holding us back, so I have the right to be pretty pissed off and I'm in the right to bash you morons.
Drucef 1 year ago
@Drucef Yeah well obviously you arenlt getting the point here. My comprehnsion skills suck? And I assumed you were Atheist because you believe there absoluetly is no God and think anyone who believes is an idiot? That is correct? Because Agnostics usually don't bash Theists, they can be irritated at having crap shoved down their throat but they usually aren't like you.
SkylarAlyxis 1 year ago
@Drucef Now your saying my comphrehension skills suck because you really have nothing else to say and you don't have the emotional capacity to admit everyone has right to their own beleifs. I sence you are a control freak? I am in no way trying to prove God exists here dude. Just saying that the billions of people who don't share your opinion are not 'stupid'. That's an ignorant statement sir.
SkylarAlyxis 1 year ago
@SkylarAlyxis: 1. I didn't say I believe for certain there is no God. I don't know. Asserting that God exists as fact or that he doesn't exist as fact are both fucking stupid. 2. Yes, people are stupid for believing in fairy tales with no evidence. That has nothing to do with opinion. 3. You said you are smart because you have a high IQ and blah blah, but you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're" and again, you believe in fairy tales with no evidence.
Drucef 1 year ago
@Drucef You have simply said believing in God makes someone stupid. And it has everything to do with opinion being that opinions, like beliefs, cannot be proven. You can't prove your opinions and your opinions are not a fact. So sir, if you think anyone who has a differen't opinion than you is stupid. Then I respect that you have your own opinion. Good luck with like on that one.
SkylarAlyxis 1 year ago
@Drucef Then you are Agnostic, yes? It's quite ignorant and unrational of you to use to call someone a dimwit for assuming you were Atheist, being that you didn't specify that until the end there ;] You seem to be dead set on your opinion that billions of people on this planet are stupid and you are indeed smarter than all of them. Quite arrogant of you to claim such a thing I must say. One day you'll learn everyone will always be different....Or maybe not. Who knows.
SkylarAlyxis 1 year ago
@Drucef You come off as a very bitter person. People who don't believe the same way you do are instantly labled as stupid. No matter how much a higher education they might have than you, no matter how many years of wisdom they have on you, and no matter how much over all knowledge they have on you. That one little tiny belief automically makes you smarter than them. I see.
SkylarAlyxis 1 year ago
@SkylarAlyxis: Pretty much. Once your IQ exceeds room temperature (if that happens), you may understand that belief is retarded without evidence. Thanks for playing.
Drucef 1 year ago
@Drucef Evidence or proof is percieved differently as people come of different personas. And you'll see that your belief that you in smarter than billions of people who believe in God would also require "evidence". There's plenty of proof of the holocaust yet a great population of Muslims doesn't believe it ever existed? EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinion sir (:
SkylarAlyxis 1 year ago
@SkylarAlyxis: No, evidence can be tested. It has nothing to do with your emotions or opinions or where someone is from. That's the most retarded thing I have ever heard. There's no way to test the existence of your god so there's no reason to believe he exists the way you perceive. Btw, there is evidence of the holocaust, yes...so if an entire population doesn't believe it happend, that makes them IGNORANT and stupid. It has nothing to do with opinion. It has everything to do with logic.
Drucef 1 year ago
@Drucef Yeah and the point here, that you obviously still haven't gotten is that everyone has the right to their own opinion. Having your own belief does not make you stupid. But I guess that is your opinion and I respect it sir.
SkylarAlyxis 1 year ago
@SkylarAlyxis: The point here, YOU obviously don't get it. You believe in FAIRY TALES. You are STUPID.
Drucef 1 year ago
@Drucef Yes, me and the billions of other people in the world (:
SkylarAlyxis 1 year ago
@SkylarAlyxis: Yup pretty sad.
Drucef 1 year ago
@SkylarAlyxis: Actually, Drucef has a point. He might be arrogant and kind of a dick, but belief is pretty pointless without evidence. I wouldn't give my life for Jesus just because the bible tells me he exists. Flyleaf rocks though!
XSDarkMoonZX 1 year ago
@XSDarkMoonZX Yeah and I respect that, but that's my point. He's saying that anyone who believe's in God is stupid no matter what. He's said it numerous times. My problem isn't his choosing not to believe in anything, it's him saying that smart people can't believe in God. But thank you for not being a dick (:
SkylarAlyxis 1 year ago
@XSDarkMoonZX Christopher Columbus didn't really have evidence that the world was round either though he discovered the truth. You sound like a little girl, I don't want to scare your little atheist freak mind- go play or should I say " Go find your missing link little girl" ,,Lacey Rocks!
turquoiseraven72 1 year ago
@turquoiseraven72: LOL....wow, you really are simple aren't you? Do you know why Christopher Columbus originally thought the Earth was round? Well, because evidence suggested so. There's no evidence for your flying spaghetti monster. You can't win the argument. You don't even have an argument. You just tried to insult me by calling me a monkey or something. You're right...Christians obviously haven't evolved. LOL
XSDarkMoonZX 1 year ago
@XSDarkMoonZX Flying Spaghetti monster(lol) Now that is funny. Boy, I feel I must of hit a nerve with (I'm guessing a little boy) you and your emotions. You see Foe, I'm glad you little freaks aren't believers because you would tear down our stature with your silly comments. You cannot see beyond yourself therefore you limit your powers,which I know from your response you lack. Sad Mortal Dead Matter..
turquoiseraven72 1 year ago
@XSDarkMoonZX You sound like a pathetic little influential girl, so sorry for your problems honey but, it's time to grow out of them and face the world. Atheist Freaky girl.
turquoiseraven72 1 year ago
@turquoiseraven72: So you have no logical argument. Typical. Thanks again for playing. Simpleton. XD
XSDarkMoonZX 1 year ago
@XSDarkMoonZX your the one who accused me of worshipping a flying spaghetti monster and I'm typical? I have no logical argument? You obviously have double digit I.Q and it seems your a 13 yr.old little girl-so why would I engage in conversation w/u? Yawn.. goodbye little, spoon-fed robot.
turquoiseraven72 1 year ago
@turquoiseraven72: Hahahahahahahahahahaha.
Drucef 1 year ago
@Drucef lol, Thanks for playing? You wanna play with me some? Because I don't play nicely with you Atheist Freaks? After you go and find your missing link smart guy, why don't you come back over here and explain why your monkey ass is so passionately against Christians. For I am one and let the games begin!
turquoiseraven72 1 year ago
@turquoiseraven72: Oh and by the way creatard, I'm agnostic, not atheist. Sorry to burst your little bubble. Grow a brain.
XSDarkMoonZX 1 year ago
@Drucef Drucef thinks he's a smart little guy.. Drucef don't believe in big spirit. Drucef want everyone to believe as he. Drucef dead inside and seething with anger.
turquoiseraven72 1 year ago
@Drucef hahaha? lol. I have two friends who are witches and they do not criticize another's faith. They are wise Wiccans and not flaky like you.
turquoiseraven72 1 year ago
@turquoiseraven72: I have already had this conversation. You said you wanted an argument, yet you brought nothing to the table, so I laughed at you just like I laugh at most typical brainwashed creatards. Try to bring something intelligent to the table...if you can.
Drucef 1 year ago
@Drucef drucef and the droids are complete atheist morans
turquoiseraven72 1 year ago
that's like proving that the bible is right with some stuff out of the bible...
don't get me wrong, i do believe in god, too... but i don't believe in everything that is written in the bible...
ajreyhardy 2 years ago
Me neither :)
shaniali 2 years ago
you look in the mirror! thats proof!!
superhotpink17 2 years ago 2
because that's what faith is...
officialriot 2 years ago 2
she is so right..thats why people scram...it dosent matter if you can undrstand it..you can feel it
helpplease08 3 years ago
i have the book and it really got me interested its really nice and its form her mom i think ppl can learn alot from cassie btw LLLLLOVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEE FLYLEAF
one of the best songs
xxmubelino333 3 years ago
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the books, she said yes and no easy answers are incredible books!
imaginarygoddess66 3 years ago
WHAT"S THE BOOK CALLED?
ent66 3 years ago
She said Yes: The unlikely martyrdom of Cassie Bernall.
youknowxthatkidd 3 years ago 2
So my mom was right.. this song is about two boys who brought guns and started shooting then asked this girl if she believes in God and she said yes so he said well go meet him or something and shot her? i probably got some stuff wrong
x7destiny7x 3 years ago
I would say i believe in god to.. God is the coolest..
Sims2loverxyz 3 years ago 3
You rock :)
SweenyTodd432 3 years ago
lol thnks..
Sims2loverxyz 3 years ago
no probs :) llol
SweenyTodd432 3 years ago
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how can u love cassie's story? thats horrible. its ok to like the song but the story is a totally different thing, thats like saying you like the fact that two girls got shot in the face during a school shooting
LoneAzzKikR 3 years ago
cant you see the good in that tho?? cassie and rachels story touched flyleaf so much that they made a song about it. and now that very song is touching kids all over. god uses people for a reason. think about it :]
Xx53310761xX 3 years ago 4
cant you see the good in that tho?? cassie and rachels story and faith touched flyleaf soo much that they made a song about it. and now that very song is touching kids all around. god uses people for a reason and cassie and rachel died so that millions of others can hear their story and may be brought closer to him.
Xx53310761xX 3 years ago 5
i just totally look up to her and think it's amazing what she did...
imaginarygoddess66 3 years ago 3
No, they probably meant they liked the fact that the girls were brave enough to stand up for God even if it meant death.
never2muchNOISE 3 years ago 2
ARLINGTON!!!!!!
patywhack 3 years ago
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o and shes made dope
WWEDivasRock328 3 years ago
she did get married but about after a month she got a divorce :/
babid0llx 3 years ago
I love the song Cassie.
I love the story, as well.
Flyleaf is just awesome.
FreakxTard 3 years ago 2
I just searched her on Wikipedia and im shocked to see her date of birth, i thought she was about 19 same age as me lol
MrsHaleyJoelOsment 3 years ago
i doubt she lost her virginity before 13, cus her first boyfriend she said wasn't until 13. but w/e who really cares. haha anyways you guys should read that book it's called "she said yes" or more specifically on rachel's story that one is called "rachel's tears"
fersurex44 3 years ago
i love u lacey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
u r sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hot
flyleaf4life94 3 years ago
Of course Lacey isnt virgin she did drugs since 10, she was always looking for a reason to live so obliviously she tested "sex" on a early age, i am sure she lost her virginity before 13... sadly :(
mxp08 3 years ago 2
well shes a valid christian now so its all good shes a deep follower of god :D shes paid for her sins and has been saved
bassguitarnick 3 years ago
Well she's turned around since then.
FreakxTard 3 years ago
flyleaf rocks!!!
MtkSk8erBaby 3 years ago
wheres Nirvana??
cryssyrox12 3 years ago
Love their interviews!
truepureblue 3 years ago
how is this book called??
pur4ix 3 years ago
how is this book called?
pur4ix 3 years ago
what is wrong with you
PiddleMettuar 3 years ago
no laceys not a vigin, but she said herself in an interview that she has prayed for forgivness and has started over
laceylovegood24 3 years ago
i cant wait to see them in may
:)
ionowner556 3 years ago
i have that book i read it like 3 times its a book that should be read i love this video!!!!
FlyLeafCorps 4 years ago
what book?
heypunkiey 3 years ago
whats the book called?
augustbaby1415 3 years ago
lacey is dating some dude in philidelphia or how ever you spell it it said it in the issue of kerrang that flyleaf is in
FlyLeafCorps 4 years ago
i love flyleaf they rock
punkieprincess2011 4 years ago 6
she looks so tiny compared to all the guys :)
imaginarygoddess66 4 years ago 3
She is she's like 4'10'' power to the short people!
TTLYPerfect 3 years ago 5
Yayy! Thats cool cus i am 19 and im 5'2 so people always think im about 15 lol
MrsHaleyJoelOsment 3 years ago
im 5'8 and 16 and im wicked short in my town lol
WWEDivasRock328 3 years ago
Awesome interview! Lacey rocks!
sk8erchik30 4 years ago 2
lacey is so adorable!!!
tech1316 4 years ago 7
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I really Dont think her and sameer are dating. This is really random but i've always wondered if Lacey is a virgin. does anyone know?
flyleafband 4 years ago
i heard she used to be married but i believe it ended in divorce she has a boyfriend but its not one of her band mates
assmunch767676 3 years ago
have you ever heard the song I'm sorry?
ditzyleah 3 years ago
She was married before, I think, so probably not.
But it really shouldn't matter to us.
They makes great music, and that's that.
AJFAN93 3 years ago 7
I don't think she was ever married.
FreakxTard 3 years ago
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is sameer dating lacey? O.o cuz he's like touching her hair and shit. i always knew they had a connection.
1cyblu3z 4 years ago
no shes not....
allaroundme 4 years ago 4
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she is NOT dating sameer. But dont u think her a Pat would make like the cutest couple? This is really random but i wonder if lacey is a virgin?
flyleafband 4 years ago
you are sick you shouldnt even want to know that cause its none of your business
punkieprincess2011 3 years ago
That was a really good question
Hitman7027371406 3 years ago
not really. and who cares if she is or not, what does that have to do with anything. and im sure shes not if shes 27 and married once, but who cares, shes amazing and thats all that matters.
LeftOverCrackx3 3 years ago
1cyblu3z I too always wondered if Sameer and Lacey have(or had) something goin on with eachother...so there's nothing wrong in asking...plus I think they would make a cute couple. ^_^
P.S: but I also agree with others that think Pat and Lacey would be cute together as well, lol.
truepureblue 3 years ago
but it wasn't proven right?
it's still on debate up to now...
but it'd be nice if it were proven, it's a moving thought..
mushpot 4 years ago 4
Flyleaf!!! interview rox!! go lacey!
Crazy4Avril 4 years ago 9
i lovvveee this interview! one of the best! woot woot
iluvkedley 4 years ago 6
i love this interview! one of the best! =D
iluvkedley 4 years ago 4