Paul Ricoeur: Death and Eternity (English Subtitles)

[PAMVAUGHN]

very interesting thank you for shareing this

[pawsoned]

This is very profound. Many thanks for this philosophical gem. Founding moments in our mundane reality which open for us the possibility of eternal life embedded here and now and not somewhere else after our death; here's a conundrum that's worthwhile contemplating indeed.

[roryscanlon]

ridiculous

[S2Cents]

@roryscanlon why do you say that it is ridiculous?

[roryscanlon]

@S2Cents ah, well. Because there are no experiences so intense or decisive that they constitute eternal life. I agree that eternity is about the present, very much so, but not "grains" of a present which passes away. That's nonsense, and its a refusal of the question of life after death... its a non-answer.

[roryscanlon]

@salmonfishandships) Perhaps you're right.

Still... "myth" sounds pejorative. Is Ricoeur open to a myth which would complement and fulfill natural human reason?--i.e. a myth which would be true, and thus worthy of faith?

I only know the Ricoeur of this video.

He seems so intent on the immanence of this life (phenomena) that faith would be impossible. But why must immediate experience be opposed to the beyond so fundamentally? He seems to define himself against the beyond.

[roryscanlon]

salmon) 2) I'm at a loss for words. Youtube forgot them for me.

I suppose my point is: if there is an experience which presents us with the idea of eternity, than that idea must also open out on the actual thing--unending life--the status of the "myth" must be just as central as the grains of experience.

If rather the idea remains hidden within phenomenal experience, it should simply be called a delusion and not eternal life.

That's garbled, but, alas, so be it.

eagerly,

Rory