What I love, is Norway is "the" most developed country in the world and 31% to 72% of its population are atheists, on the other hand all the undeveloped country's that are in poverty are mostly religious... I also love the quote... "Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he can feed his family for a life time, give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish."
@qqqq1920 Even if the followers of a religious school of thought had no proofs for their claim, to conclude firmly and forcibly that non- being reigns beyond the sensory realm would be a non-scientific choice, based on imagination and speculation.
@qqqq1920 Views such as these derive directly from a system of thought centered on materialism; within it, everything is defined and delimited with reference to materialism.
To interpret materialism in such a sense is in the final analysis strictly meaningless; it would be a superstitious notion involving the perversion of truth, and to regard it as scientific would, in fact, be *treason* to science.
Your delusions that science has put out the notion of God is purely *rhetorical* and has nothing to do with logical method, because even thousands of scientific experiments could not possibly suffice to demonstrate that no non-material being or factor exists.
Your claim is nothing more than a *fanatical* illusion based on unproven theories.
What is called science by the *science-worshippers* of the present age and regarded by them as equivalent to the sum total of *reality*, is simply a collection of laws applicable to a single dimension of the world. The result of all human effort and experimentation is a body of knowledge concerning a minute bright dot comparable to the dim light of a candle-surrounded by a dark night enveloping a huge desert of indefinite extent.
All praise is due to ALLAH, the Lord of the Universe.
Do scientific discoveries and knowledge cause such a scientist to conclude that matter, *unknowing and unperceiving *, is his creator and that of all beings?
No?
Then how can the duped and the brainwashed atheists and some of the scientists delude themselve and *believe* that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
How could some of the scientists permit themselves to make a claim that would necessitate knowledge as extensive as the scheme of the universe, when their knowledge of the total scheme of being is *close* to zero, when confronted with a whole mass of unknowns concerning this very earth and tangible, lifeless matter, let alone the whole universe?
@qqqq1920 Atheism is a world view and is the weakest and slipperiest world view because says it believes nothing; it cannot sustain its own civilization and ultimately must import islamic immigration to keep its economy going - atheism causes selfishness as europeans are too selfish to have too many children. It is too weak to maintain its own civilisation let alone invade anyone elses. Europeans are depopulating themselves thanks to the stupidity of atheism, humanism and cultural marxism.
@qqqq1920 The erosion of christian values in europe and the rise of atheism and cultural marxism is causing self genocide and massive political, social and economic problems for europeans.
@qqqq1920 Austria is the only country which records the religious belief of parents but their figure, of 0.85 children per atheist woman, is far below replacement rate (2.2) and below even the most barren European country's average rate, which is about 1.2. And since most people inherit their parents' political and religious world views, this is bad news for Team Dawkins, and europeans who will become aboringines in their own countries if atheist/humanist thinking continues.
@ian2008931 Yeah, he sounds like Professor Richard Dawkins funnily enough. And how do you know what a woman who hasn't been laid in 5 years sounds like? ...Ohhh that's it; she sounds like your girlfriend.
@Thechristiancullen 1) No, he doesn't believe that. 2) Because it is. The two are mutually exclusive. Miracles are either possible as religions say or aren't as science does.
Science proved it self over and over and over again. And keeps doing so to this day.
I don't know a single instance of religion being proven true in any of it's purely religious aspects.
@yancur This is ridiculous - Science and Faith deal with different problems so how does one prove or not prove the other ie; Science can diagnose a cancer and can even find a cure for it, But a scientist will be the first to say, it can't help you to deal with the stress and disappointment that comes with the diagnosis - thats when faith is required. Also science does not solve man's big problem = the wages of your sin is death.
@Thechristiancullen For stress there is another scientific (medical) filed, called psychiatry or psychology. No need for religious faith at all.
Sin is an absurd notion devised by smart, opportunistic people long time ago to manipulate uneducated to submit to their will. These people are these days called priests.
@yancur Great so the answer to all our problems is drugs and anti-depressants?
The god of drugs and alcohol is the solution to man's problems.
No - sin is still aroud in western materalistic pampered societies - divorce, family breakups, depression, suicide (by the way atheists lead the way on statistics), addictions, abortion, low fertility rates, self genocide of europeans; not mention the odd Doctor and Scientist in prison
@Thechristiancullen Ever heard of Psychotherapy? Or do you really think that all psychiatrist do is prescribe anti-depresants and other drugs?
Never read statistics that suggest that atheist commit more suicides than religious ppl. Care to proved evidence for this claim?
On the other hand, lowest rate of abortions is in nordic countries which are largely atheistic. And highest (of developed coutnries) is in the USA the most "Christian" country in the "west" world..
@yancur 2004, the American Journal of Psychiatry reported the following:
Religiously unaffiliated subjects had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than subjects who endorsed a religious affiliation.
Stats on countries are less reliable than individuals but care to show your stats on abortions? By the way most young Americans are not that christian. Also it is more likely that atheists are on contraception, or be homosexual.
@yancur Europeans are committing self-genocide thanks to the stupidity of atheism and humanism. Low fertility rates (less than 1.8 per woman) makes european socially, economically, political civilisation vulnerable.
Atheism is a brainwashed death cult amongst europeans which inevitably gives way to islam - yet atheists are too stupid to understand the correlation between atheism and the bondage of islam.
@yancur 2004, the American Journal of Psychiatry reported the following: Religiously unaffiliated subjects had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than subjects who endorsed a christian affiliation. Carl Djerassi the Austrian chemist who invented the pill; says that his creation has led to a "demographic catastrophe." Austria is the only european country to measure religious fertility rates.
@Thechristiancullen Your missing my point, and that is that the idea that your christian beliefs in jesus are bullshit, and wholey supersticious bronze age nonsence.
@carny426 A farmer can either have free range or battery operated hens. He decides and he decides when they when they go to the Chicken Factory.
You should be thankful that you are a free range human and have free choice. The LORD gives, and the LORD takes away; blessed be the name of the LORD.
@Thechristiancullen 2 Kings 2:23-24 explain this little piece of nonsence that is stated in your presious book. I can play this game if you want, I know alot of the new and old testimonts if you really want to test me on the subject.
@carny426 You do realise that the Pharisees KNEW lots of scriptures too yet they fail to know Christ.
With regards to Elisha - these were deliquent youths disrepecting an athority figure - rioting and looting youths of Britain need to be wary of judgement. Biblical principle here = respect elders, parents, government, those in authority.
@Thechristiancullen Well I know christ aswell and allow me to say that through the power of logic and reason I realsised that it's all bullshit. Respect those who are worthy of respect no just because they made a your or have been around longer than you. Your god christ is a fraud my friend accept that. He devives from YHWH, who is esentially a volcano god, and christ is nothing more than the tale of a sacrifice that worked. It's all bullshit and it's bad for ya.
@Thechristiancullen How can logic be required but not explain? Logic makes sence because it's logic, and when you apply reason to logic then you are never wrong. And if you are wrong, then your logic and or reason is flawed. Jesus is himself AND god? tell me this, is it easier to believe that a malicious wizard in the sky impregnated a woman with HIMSELF, or is it easier to believe a jewish girl told a fib? Extrodinary claims require extrordinary evidence, none of wich any religion can supply.
@carny426 Lets see; The New Testament says a few hundred people witnessed the resserection of Jesus. SOme of them were non-believers. Evidence suggests that at least seven individuals mentioned in the New Testament were non-believers witnesses of the resurrection in some form: the guards at the tomb, James, Paul, and Paul's travel companions.
There are always non-Christian witnesses in these extraordinary events, but you need to explain why more evidence is always needed.
@Thechristiancullen No you have it all wrong on this evidence thing, because you see other than a few books written by goat herders, and backwater holy men on how the universe works. All of the "evidence" you put forward can be shot down by scientific contradictions, aswell as logical reasoning. So you see you have no evidence of your claims, there for I am inclined to believe nothing you say on the topic.
@Thechristiancullen So because every one else is doing it I should too? That sounds like some facist ideology to me. What about the other gods that were around for THOUSANDS of years longer than the judeo-christian religions? They didn't have a bunch of authors writing about them? Your throughing semantics at me and semantics will get you no where in an arguement with me. Show me some true blue evidence. Some thing iron clad, then and ONLY then will I take your dogmas into some consideration.
@carny426 Firstly earthquakes, tornados, death, creation, the stars etc are deisgned to wake listless atheists up from spiritual numbness and take note.
2/ God has already left the comfort of heaven, become flesh, been rejected and died the death of a criminal for your sins - yet you still want more evidence - what else would you like HIM to do for you cook you a pizza?
@Thechristiancullen You have not replied? Why is it when ever I ask one of the devout for something as simple as stone cold evidence they never reply back? Is it because you now realise that christianity is wrong? I'm not trying to sound insulting, I just ACTUALLY want to know why it is.
@carny426 God has already left the comfort of heaven, become flesh, been rejected and died the death of a criminal for your sins - what else do you want him to prove you - would you like him to make you a cheese sandwich?
Even bearded polygamist sinners and listless atheists need Jesus
@Thechristiancullen Just so you know, I do know Jesus, I work with him. He actually lives like not even a football field away. I also bum him smoke fairly frequntly because he's a bit of a bum and never buys his own. My point is that I gives a fuck about who the hell some one says they are. It matters what their actions are, and what their ideals are, not their name like my buddy Jesus.
@carny426 Good point - there is difference between knowing about someone and KNOWING them.
Many scribes, Pharisees also knew the scriptures and knew about the Messiah but failed to KNOW him when they met him and wanted him crucified.
The people of biblical times had a choice to make, either to free Jesus or free a serial killer called Barrabas. Yet people shouted in accord and said they would rather free a serial killer and kill God. It is your sin of indifference that crucifys Jesus
@Thechristiancullen But you can never really know him at all (the biblical one, not my bum friend) because he's dead. Has been for a couple thousand years. So how can you know him, one sence he's dead, and two that you can never truly know anyone ore than subjectively. So you don't know him any better than I do. You mearly know the stroy.
@carny426 Interestingly enough many people have met Jesus before they have read the bible or know his story. This is how many people have been saved in islamic/communist countries where the bible has been banned. Even the bible says it is possible to know HIM without the bible.
@Thechristiancullen Who? have you met them and verified that what they state is true. We all know about the nut job healing evangelicles do with the placing of individuals who are "ill", and are all of a sudden "cleansed" or "healed''... get fuckin real. Its absured to think that this is real. Why can't people look at a garden and accept its beauty for what it is with out having to believe that there's fairies underneith.
@carny426 Yes - I have even been to one underground church in an islamic country that is full of believers who have encountered the Lord Jesus Christ.
It is very difficult for pampered materialistic smug western atheists to believe in anything except what they see. Things like wealth, insurance, and social welfare makes you insulated.
Sorry to burst your safe bubble but Some things just cannot be explained.
@Thechristiancullen Wealth, insurance, and social welfare in this country makes me sick first off. Second is: Science never claims to know everything. It has evidence to support theories, and if a theory can't stand up to critisism and what not, then it's a flop. Christianity is not true, and these people your talking about are lunitics that misinturpreted something they didn't understand. I'm not a scientest none the less, I'm just a plain every day guy, but that says something if you ask me.
@carny426 Firstly since when did science become exclusive to atheism?
2/Christianity serves a different purpose to religion. Science can diagnose a cancer and can even find a cure for it, But a scientist will be the first to say, it can't help you to deal with the stress and disappointment that comes with a diagnosis. Also science cannot solve your big problem = sin
@Thechristiancullen I fail to see your point as atheism is a lack of belief, and there for a negative. You can't prove a negative in science. Second science doesn't say that there is a god, in fact the major theories in science that are widley accepted as fact or highly probable, play against the idea of god. And when these theories begain to gain noteriety, then religion says oh well wait this is what our book REALLY means, we just got it wrong for the past so many hundred years...(cont)
@Thechristiancullen (cont.) I mean shit, the simple fact that religions always claim to know these things and then retract them when something is proven out right wroing should be proof enough. Not that there is no god, but that they are full of shit. As I said you can not prove a negative. And sin is something we're all born with right? it's something we all do right? But animals are different they say, they say that animals have no morality, then explain morning, fear, and evan sympathy.
@carny426 If man is created in the image of an animal and you are indeed just another ant, hippo or wildebeast; why not just chuck a dead atheists body down a drain somewhere when it is of no value then?
@Thechristiancullen And America, the statistics show, and thats not the case of pizza to be ordered. If anything we have much more problems in answering questions about the universe than so called "christian scientists" becasue we have to find new answers and come up with new theories where as the christian is set in the way of finding god in the cracks of true science. "Why not chuck a dead athiest down a drain." if thats the way they wish to be burried then why not?...
@carny426 Excuse me but we are talking at cross purposes here - you are still comparing science to religion which is like comparing nuclear reactors to raising children or comparing cooking pizzas to sovling depression.
Science does not solve man's biggest problem = sin - why do you think some scientists and Doctors still end up in jail?
@Thechristiancullen Because scientists and doctors occasionally commit crimes? Sin is a social/religious construct. There are phychological as well as social issues behind crimes. People break laws for many different reasons and if religion can just back off for a minute we may be able to get to the bottom of it rationally... as they do on a daily basis all around the world, they are called police officers and detectives.
@Paul07791 Excuse me but once again I think you are confusing religion with Jesus.
Jesus hated religion too - after all it was the bearded religious men who wanted HIM crucified in the first place. Our sin of indifference still kills God by nailing Jesus to the cross.
Also the police are only good as the laws they enforce ; murder, genocide, rape etc. For instance everyone knew that killing Jews was wrong - even Hitler did otherwise he would not have committed suicide.
@Thechristiancullen It is logical that the people who wrote the 2nd testament created a character who would denounce other religions as false. Moses did it previously, because the idea is to reel in as many people as possible. Of course Jews are the villains - lets not forget the bit when Jesus trashed a market in disgust at greed (though many converted of course).
I am not indifferent; I definitely do not believe in god. Hitler commited suicide because the allied forces were on his doorstep.
@Paul07791 No - Old Testament prophecies state that God would have a SON called God who would die for our sins. NT merely fulfills over 60 OT prophecies.
The bible is about Jesus. It shows that man is incapable of saving himself through religion or atheism and why we need a Svaiour. Religion is just as bad as atheism. The sin of the bible is pride which causes listlessness and hatred.
Even bearded polygamist religious men and listless atheists need Jesus.
@carny426 Excuse me but we are talking at cross purposes here - you are still comparing science to religion which is like comparing nuclear reactors to raising children or comparing cooking pizzas to sovling depression.
Science does not solve man's biggest problem = sin - why do you think some scientists and Doctors still end up in jail?
@Thechristiancullen Your getting into sanctity of life stuff. I say this, " If everything thats ever lived is dead, and everything alive is going to die, then whats so sacred about that?" And you never answered my questions, you never do to tell you the truth, and I would really like to continue this debate, but you must answer my questions aswell, it is not fare for me to give and recieve nothing, and if there is something that I can not answer then I admit it. You do not. Why is that?
@carny426 Death like earthquakes, evil, cyclones, disease, tsunamis are a reminder that we are not God and to wake up listless atheists. The stars and creation are evidence of God in the same way that dinosaur bones are evidence of dinosaurs.
@Thechristiancullen Do you see what I'm trying to say? Like are you saying that you absolutley believe every word in the bible? Do you understand what I'll say at least? Do you refuse to believe it? Or do you like I said truely believe all of that stuff? What about evolution? And physics? Or the ever growing populace of people who don't believe in religions, and are completley secularist in there ideals?
@carny426 But you are saying that evolution is exclusive to atheism which is not the case. Evolution is even debated within christianity. You do not become a mindless sheep when you get saved - rather one must think about issues like evolution, epistemology, naturalistic philosophy, calvinsim, predestination, over-realised eschatology, dispensationalism etc - whereas most atheists ony need to worry about what sort of pizza they order.
The only growing populace of atheists is amongst europeans.
@carny426 EVIDENCE = earthquakes, tornados, aging, death, evil, your conscience, beauty, creation, the stars, the earth has a limited time etc are deisgned to wake listless atheists up from spiritual numbness and take note. Historical evidence of the birth, life and death of Jesus.
@Mindaugas710 However according to you; at some time in the distant past there was no life in the universe -- just elements and chemical compounds. Somehow, these chemicals combined and came to life - now that requires some faith.
@Thechristiancullen Maybe a long weith chemical compounds there was bacteria and there are other posibilities. But then again if we are designed by what you would call god then if he's omniscient and omnipotent he be purposely make use so flawed as we are today. Also why would god create people before jesus allow another religion to exist and then punish them for the religion he created which follows some other "fake" god??(example like Greeks, romans, egyptians, muslims etc)
@Mindaugas7100 It is only atheists that are so certain that life arrived from goo to you by way of the zoo. It has never been observed in any laboratory that mutations can cause one species to turn into another.
@Thechristiancullen The reality is, if you accept that god made everything and is also all powerful also proves he makes everyone and everything the way he wants therefore making other gods aswell.
@Thechristiancullen HAHAHAAH, retarted statement, i feel sorry for you because you got no clue what your talking about. Why would god invent other religion as opposing to himself and do not give anyclues about himself then purpolely send his creation to an after life. Tell me this because you might not be so bright so i put in simple words, why does god send people to hell if they believe different god at the time before jesus was born and even when he was born.
@Mindaugas7100 George Bernard Shaw said, "The Bible is the most dangerous book in the world, keep it lock and keyed." Why do you think an atheist like Shaw would say this when he also said: "There is not one single established religion that an intelligent, educated man can believe."
@Thechristiancullen Vast majority of people never knew jesus even exsisted after him for a while nor in him time while living in distant countries. So by your view God intented to do this nosense, look mister, pull your head out of your ass and wake up, you are way to deluded. Not to mention the key in evolution is mutation.
@Mindaugas7100 Rubbish - 90% of the worlds population has been born since the birth of Christ. The dead sea scrolls are dated at 100 B.C. contain 19 copies of Isaiah, 25 copies of Deuteronomy and 30 copies of Psalms that are virtually identical to what we have in our Bible's today.Old Testament prophets forsaw that God would have a SON called God who would die for your sins.
@Thechristiancullen No it is not rubbish, only about perhaps 15% tops of world population knew of jesus at time when he done "miracles" and raised people form death and other nosense. Your god is cruel and wicked being also arrogant and proud over nothing.
@Mindaugas7100 The world population at the time of Abraham at 5 million. There seems to be broad agreement that the world population at the time of Christ was between 200 and 300 million. 95% of the total worlds population have been born after the birth of Christ.
God is not some distant being but became flesh. Most people know about Christ but choose to reject HIM. Your sin kills God by nailing HIM to the cross - I wonder who the cruel and wicked really are?
@Thechristiancullen You sir are way to delusional, tellme isn't slavery and owing women as toys is not wicked? there is plenty of discusting stuff that has been taken out which you don't even know probably. Like mister Dawkins said "lets take out the nasty bits and leave the good bits". Honestly you couldn't win if you meet muslin with same degree of faith as you do, your simply blinded yourself from the truth and willnever admit it.
2/ Why are you reading the bible if you do not know HIM?
3/ An atheist or a muslim trying to understand the bible is like a cannibal trying to understand a vegeterian cook book - useless unless you are born again.
4/ With regards to slavery and polygamy - go read a book on dispensationalism - if you read the bible like you do you would also expect the Red Sea to open each time a Jew goes near it.
@Thechristiancullen And still my question is the same, whywould god invent other gods and also at the time of jesus whydidn't everyone heard of him? that means with puropse he intended to send some poeple to hell.
1. why so angry? did a man touch you when you were young? did your mother never love you? calm down you are making athiests look aggressive and stupid. 2. please explain how? i love how people don't believe in god and still want to cling to a idea that they still have some worth in this universe. If there is no God then there is no point to life, not that I'm bothered by that unlike some people.... 3. *Sherlock not 'Shearlock' but you're American so I'll let you off
@MattHXIV No shit Shearlock, you just now figureing that out? Or are you trying to make a dopey ass statement in the form of a question? Wake the fuck up you blind sheep fuck.
@MattHXIV Sucks your comment got removed, but yes I read your comment in the wrong context, for that I apologize, I was drunk and my wits were at a faultering. But yes, I completly argee with you there is no point to life, it's just a random, and chance acurance on a backwater mud ball floating around a giant burning ball of hydrogen.
@carny426 How depressing. It is no wonder that 2004, the American Journal of Psychiatry reported "Religiously unaffiliated subjects had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than christians"
No matter how many videos and speeches I hear about people saying God isn't real I will never deny that he is because of what he has done in me in my heart. That's something science can try to explain but I will never deny it wasn't God. I have such peace In my heart knowing he is and one day everyone will see him and then they will try to turn away from everything they did and repent but it will be too late. I promise it will happen :) hope to see y'all in heaven! I'll be praying for y'all.
The problem is to many people find logic in religion but at the end of the day religion has no logic just go out and test it stand in the line of a on going truck and see if your faith will remove it or see if jeuse or god will intervene. Chance is you wont see tomorrow im not saying there no reason for are being here but I can tell you this its not the man made god who people have been following.
Without doubt, one of the factors in the emergence of anti-religious ideas and a phalanx of deniers of God, has been the false teachings, the inadequacies and the intellectual perversions of the followers of some religions. The peculiarities and separate characteristics of each religion must, therefore, be individually examined when studying the reasons that have led men to adhere to that religion.
Science itself is dogmatic by solely relying on the limited five human senses in its observations alone. It not only can't answer truths in human morality, justice, emotions & ones self awareness as an individual with free-will; it discounts all of these carte blanc as mere biochemical illusions via this limited view. If bacteria had it's own logic & reason then used the scientific method how would they perceive the same world we live in with their senses, would we be mindless to them? Cont>
Cont>: Science is just as presumptuous a human proposition to a truth seeking method and just as dogmatic and limited as a false religion. Science is only a sub-set of human philosophy but it's proposition as the sole truth mechanism discounts the very notion of truth in humanity and philosophy as no more than biochemical illusory. In this regard philosophy has birthed a god called science which has proved it's own mother a myth!
@WILLTHEWGMAN The moment you stop using internet, computers (including mobile phones) ALL of which are Scientific discoveries,I will take your opinion seriously. Until then you are but a hypocrite.
Science does not create technology no more than the English alphabet wrote E.A. Poe's, The Raven or a maple tree and horse hair composed Pachelbel's Canon in D Major. Human ingenuity and labor creates technology, not science! Science is a method, not a creator! Science does not discover, humans do!
@WILLTHEWGMAN Are you really an idiot or are you just pretending? Of course Scinece doesn't create anything it is an English word. But in your absurd logic Humans don't create anything either, cos' it's still just an English word!
Science is an abstract term that denotes all the "wisdom" or "knowledge" that HUMANS (human minds) put together to allow us create TECHNOLOGY through HUMAN HANDS.
Uh oh, but wait "Hands" are also just a word! They cannot create anything!!
Let me make this simple for you; What part of the scientific method was necessary to take existing knowledge and human ingenuity and labor to create the "Internet, computers (including mobile phones)"?
Your claim is that these are "Scientific discoveries" so you must have a reason to claim this. It is necessary to come up with premisses then a conclusion prior to inventors inventing? Are you claiming science to be beyond a method and what parts of science are necessary for invention?
@WILLTHEWGMAN Look what we got here?! Another Strawman Fighter! Where did I say anything about Scientific Method?! Scientific Method is currently the best, most reliable and fastest method to "create Science" (to gather knowledge or whatever you want to call it). Was it always part of the Science? NO. Will it always be. Probably NOT.
Could computers exist without using scientific method? Yes, but it would take us much much longer to create them. Was science (knowledge) necessary?YES, definitely
Science does not = Knowledge, knowledge does not change nor is ever wrong. If science just means knowledge why in the world would we need another word for it? I agree that knowledge from a conscious mind is required for human invention, I just don't invoke the word science in this assertion because then science starts to sound like something it is not...
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@jorgediego huh? celebrated by google? what does that mean...I suggest all religious people were once scientists...The problem was we got better explanations...and bronze age myths became implausible.
I hate you Richard Dawkins! It's YOUR fault nobody can stand the sight, sound or smell of me. I HATE YOU! Why do teenage boys find you attractive, BUT NOT ME?!? *SOBBING*
The question that we may never answer is "who created the creator/big bang".
At least science keeps looking.
BTW - science will never have all the answers because science by its nature keeps questioning.
I guess the problem with science is that it is insufficiently focused on what happens to the "soul" after death so the knowledge enhanced does not provide sufficient comfort.
Dawkins has so many haters, but even so many years after the book comes out, not one will actually stand up and prove him wrong. You can bet they would if they could.
@malithe00 People who don't blindly accept things as truth without any reason or evidence are brainwashed? Oh the irony. You must think people who don't believe in purple unicorns are idiots too. Go pray to your imaginary friend.
@malithe00 Funny how you continuously insult people and yet completely fail to present any arguments for your point of view or say anything even remotely intelligible. Still don't get why everyone thinks you're retarded?
@BerzergerR How could some of the scientists permit themselves to make a claim that would necessitate knowledge as extensive as the scheme of the universe, when their knowledge of the total scheme of being is *close* to zero, when confronted with a whole mass of unknowns concerning this very earth and tangible, lifeless matter, let alone the whole universe?
Then how can the atheists and some of the scientists delude themselve and believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
@malithe00 athiests are brainwashed idiots? well sorry for not following blindly in the path of a book that was probably edited so much over the years that it lost all reason and was inteded as a metaphor and not to be taken literally
@TheLordgene How could some of the scientists permit themselves to make a claim that would necessitate knowledge as extensive as the scheme of the universe, when their knowledge of the total scheme of being is *close* to zero, when confronted with a whole mass of unknowns concerning this very earth and tangible, lifeless matter, let alone the whole universe?
Then how can the atheists and some of the scientists delude themselve and believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
@malithe00 HA. your reply was acctually really funny, however my argument is that the bible must not have meant to have ben taken so litteraly, more as some form of guideline for life. i dont myself belive in what the bilbe teaches however the bible perhaps is difficult to see as a rulebook
@malithe00 Brainwashed? Are you serious? Brainwashed is a person strapping a bomb to themselves because someone says it's the will of god. Brainwashed is fighting in a war because someone says god wants it to be so. Brainwashed is denouncing all other possibilities in existence because they do not coincide with your personal beliefs. If anything religion brainwashes and science tries to explain the question of why or how whereas religion just says because god says so. Your comment is uneducated.
@DOESN'TWRK004, absolutely you imbecile. When did this pedophile dawkins EVER say ANYTHING intelligent??? WHEN???? LOL He only talks to "kids" listen to the way he talks... he talks to docile, unintelligent, lemmings LOL
@malithe00 You seem to be clearly set in your ways so there is no trying to reason with you. Name calling seems to be your best response so I'll let you have it. At this point we seem to agree on one thing and that is to disagree. In my experience I have never once seen or heard anything to suggest gods existence. If there is indeed a god then I will answer to him/her when the time comes. Not by someone who follows blindly spouting self righteous phrases and resorts to name calling.
@DOESNTWRK004, are you serious with this imbecility of yours? Only a childish, facetious, piece of shit would EVER say, "In my experience I have never once seen or heard anything to suggest gods existence." What complete dishonesty and facetiousness. LOL douche
@malithe00 Actually name calling is a sign of imbecility since the person that feels the need to insult with curse words cannot or has limited potential in relaying their thoughts into words. That being said this will be my last post so don't bother with further insults. However since you seem only to want to troll you might not be able to help yourself. As I said earlier I do not believe in god and I have my reasons. If wrong then I will answer to god for my mistakes and not someone like you.
Check out the following video entitled: Fé Ciência Glauben Wissenschaft Faith Science Esmeralda Campelo Antônio Peters. With enlightening arguments and facts, speaks Pastor Antonio Peters in an interview about his book entitled “Alpha and Omega“ (English subtitels)
“The book Alpha and Omega is not based on science to explain the Bible, it is based on the Bible and uses science as a keyhole to say: "Look, the Bible already tells us this and goes even further! (Pastor Antônio, 2010)"
religion is the worst thing that happend to humanity.......... thin about it how meny wars have been born from religin causes, haw many peopole have die
Moral Christian Man: "Damn poor people and their soup kitchens! What kind of commie socialist age are we living in??? GET A JOB! Plenty of positions in the military! Not enough towel-heads have been nuked yet!"
@rnalithe00 ha. Come on man. There are pernicious individuals of all persuasions. I will not deny that bigoted garbage like this has come out of some religious peoples mouths (probably verbatim). However I believe that many secularist paint with a wide, harsh, and incorrect brush as well when it comes to religions and religious people.
I wonder what is the "best" of religion? Cos' I can't for the life of me come up with anything positive about it at all, that wouldn't exist elsewhere in a more benign form.
Name just one objectively positive thing, that wouldn't exist on this planet without religion.
@yancur Without religious people, what you call science and the scientific method would not exist today. Ironic, ain't it? :)
Let's see. It's funny how you seem to forget about the nuclear bomb, etc etc. Even in a secular country like America, it's still high up on the list for the most crimes and whatnot.
Yeah...everyone should just watch religulous by bill mayer.... we're just human. We live and we die, the latter being the hardest to accept for this we'll prob be the only time we have... and all we'll have is questions, we'll never know.
Religion was man's attempt at describing nature's wonders without science, math, or chemistry ect. Man's ability to observe his own creative actions could have led him to question a possibility of an ultimate creator of his being. If you believe in a god with religion or not, that's your own privilege to believe if that gives you peace of mind. Its easy to believe, but hard to think. "Science without faith is lame, faith without science is blind" -Elbert Einstein
@TRUNDLETHOR In the Quran it says "In time We will show them Our Signs in the utmost Horizons and within themselves, so that it will become manifest to them that this (Qur'an) is indeed the Truth. Is it not enough for them to know that your Lord is Witness to all things".Allah will show the whole world and that day we will all come to know
@TRUNDLETHOR There cannot be any contradiction whatsoever between the established science and the Quran. This is because both the Universe and the Quran are creations of One God. The universe is the 'work' of God and the Quran is the 'word' of God. Science is about discovering Allah's 'laws in action' in the Universe.It says in the Quran
"Do they not reflect upon the Quran? Were it from anyone other than Allah they would have found many inconsistencies or discrepancies therein the quran"
I SHALL ANSWER THE TRINITY QUESTION BUT TO ANSWER IT I MUST ASK YOU ONE AND YOU MUST ANSWER IT: CAN YOU SEPARATE 1 YOUR FLESH 2 FROM VOICE3 FROM SOUL?I
At least Scientists try to find the truth. They work day and night trying to make the world better and if they are wrong they say so.
skinnydog131 1 week ago
@skinnydog131 Yes precisely i still don't get it how people can't accept the truth when science reveals it.
Mindaugas7100 1 day ago
What I love, is Norway is "the" most developed country in the world and 31% to 72% of its population are atheists, on the other hand all the undeveloped country's that are in poverty are mostly religious... I also love the quote... "Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he can feed his family for a life time, give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish."
LaserLips2 2 weeks ago
Matter is an illusion that God creates by looking for himself. Dawkins is in for the shock of his life.
soldatheero 3 weeks ago
@qqqq1920 Even if the followers of a religious school of thought had no proofs for their claim, to conclude firmly and forcibly that non- being reigns beyond the sensory realm would be a non-scientific choice, based on imagination and speculation.
1tabligh 1 month ago
@qqqq1920 Views such as these derive directly from a system of thought centered on materialism; within it, everything is defined and delimited with reference to materialism.
To interpret materialism in such a sense is in the final analysis strictly meaningless; it would be a superstitious notion involving the perversion of truth, and to regard it as scientific would, in fact, be *treason* to science.
1tabligh 1 month ago
@qqqq1920 The atheist Delusion!
Your delusions that science has put out the notion of God is purely *rhetorical* and has nothing to do with logical method, because even thousands of scientific experiments could not possibly suffice to demonstrate that no non-material being or factor exists.
Your claim is nothing more than a *fanatical* illusion based on unproven theories.
1tabligh 1 month ago
What is called science by the *science-worshippers* of the present age and regarded by them as equivalent to the sum total of *reality*, is simply a collection of laws applicable to a single dimension of the world. The result of all human effort and experimentation is a body of knowledge concerning a minute bright dot comparable to the dim light of a candle-surrounded by a dark night enveloping a huge desert of indefinite extent.
All praise is due to ALLAH, the Lord of the Universe.
1tabligh 1 month ago
Do scientific discoveries and knowledge cause such a scientist to conclude that matter, *unknowing and unperceiving *, is his creator and that of all beings?
No?
Then how can the duped and the brainwashed atheists and some of the scientists delude themselve and *believe* that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
1tabligh 1 month ago
@qqqq1920 The atheist Delusion!
How could some of the scientists permit themselves to make a claim that would necessitate knowledge as extensive as the scheme of the universe, when their knowledge of the total scheme of being is *close* to zero, when confronted with a whole mass of unknowns concerning this very earth and tangible, lifeless matter, let alone the whole universe?
1tabligh 1 month ago
Science created airplanes and skyscrapers. Religion combined the the two.
paulinbaysville 2 months ago
@qqqq1920 Atheism is a world view and is the weakest and slipperiest world view because says it believes nothing; it cannot sustain its own civilization and ultimately must import islamic immigration to keep its economy going - atheism causes selfishness as europeans are too selfish to have too many children. It is too weak to maintain its own civilisation let alone invade anyone elses. Europeans are depopulating themselves thanks to the stupidity of atheism, humanism and cultural marxism.
Thechristiancullen 3 months ago
@qqqq1920 The erosion of christian values in europe and the rise of atheism and cultural marxism is causing self genocide and massive political, social and economic problems for europeans.
Thechristiancullen 3 months ago
@qqqq1920 Austria is the only country which records the religious belief of parents but their figure, of 0.85 children per atheist woman, is far below replacement rate (2.2) and below even the most barren European country's average rate, which is about 1.2. And since most people inherit their parents' political and religious world views, this is bad news for Team Dawkins, and europeans who will become aboringines in their own countries if atheist/humanist thinking continues.
Thechristiancullen 3 months ago
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Dawkins is out of his depth. He is not a theologian nor is he educated in philosophy. Anything he says about God or metaphysics is embarrassing.
Entropy56 3 months ago
The dude talking sounds like an asshole professor, and the woman sounds like a woman who hasn't been laid in 5 years
ian2008931 3 months ago
@ian2008931 Yeah, he sounds like Professor Richard Dawkins funnily enough. And how do you know what a woman who hasn't been laid in 5 years sounds like? ...Ohhh that's it; she sounds like your girlfriend.
Paul07791 3 months ago
Why does Dawkins believe that science is exclusive to atheism.
Also why do atheists think that it is science v religion. They have different roles.
Its like saying apples v yoga
Thechristiancullen 4 months ago
@Thechristiancullen 1) No, he doesn't believe that. 2) Because it is. The two are mutually exclusive. Miracles are either possible as religions say or aren't as science does.
Science proved it self over and over and over again. And keeps doing so to this day.
I don't know a single instance of religion being proven true in any of it's purely religious aspects.
yancur 4 months ago 4
@yancur This is ridiculous - Science and Faith deal with different problems so how does one prove or not prove the other ie; Science can diagnose a cancer and can even find a cure for it, But a scientist will be the first to say, it can't help you to deal with the stress and disappointment that comes with the diagnosis - thats when faith is required. Also science does not solve man's big problem = the wages of your sin is death.
Thechristiancullen 4 months ago
@Thechristiancullen For stress there is another scientific (medical) filed, called psychiatry or psychology. No need for religious faith at all.
Sin is an absurd notion devised by smart, opportunistic people long time ago to manipulate uneducated to submit to their will. These people are these days called priests.
yancur 4 months ago 4
@yancur Great so the answer to all our problems is drugs and anti-depressants?
The god of drugs and alcohol is the solution to man's problems.
No - sin is still aroud in western materalistic pampered societies - divorce, family breakups, depression, suicide (by the way atheists lead the way on statistics), addictions, abortion, low fertility rates, self genocide of europeans; not mention the odd Doctor and Scientist in prison
Thechristiancullen 4 months ago
@Thechristiancullen Ever heard of Psychotherapy? Or do you really think that all psychiatrist do is prescribe anti-depresants and other drugs?
Never read statistics that suggest that atheist commit more suicides than religious ppl. Care to proved evidence for this claim?
On the other hand, lowest rate of abortions is in nordic countries which are largely atheistic. And highest (of developed coutnries) is in the USA the most "Christian" country in the "west" world..
yancur 4 months ago 4
@yancur 2004, the American Journal of Psychiatry reported the following:
Religiously unaffiliated subjects had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than subjects who endorsed a religious affiliation.
Stats on countries are less reliable than individuals but care to show your stats on abortions? By the way most young Americans are not that christian. Also it is more likely that atheists are on contraception, or be homosexual.
Thechristiancullen 4 months ago
@yancur Europeans are committing self-genocide thanks to the stupidity of atheism and humanism. Low fertility rates (less than 1.8 per woman) makes european socially, economically, political civilisation vulnerable.
Atheism is a brainwashed death cult amongst europeans which inevitably gives way to islam - yet atheists are too stupid to understand the correlation between atheism and the bondage of islam.
Thechristiancullen 4 months ago
@yancur 2004, the American Journal of Psychiatry reported the following: Religiously unaffiliated subjects had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than subjects who endorsed a christian affiliation. Carl Djerassi the Austrian chemist who invented the pill; says that his creation has led to a "demographic catastrophe." Austria is the only european country to measure religious fertility rates.
Thechristiancullen 3 months ago
@Thechristiancullen haha you got slammed dude, your false logic is BUST! Religion is useless come to grips with it and you'll feel better about life.
carny426 4 months ago
@carny426 Yes - Jesus hates religion as well - in fact it was the bearded religious non-pork eaters who wanted to crucify HIM.
Thechristiancullen 4 months ago
@Thechristiancullen Your missing my point, and that is that the idea that your christian beliefs in jesus are bullshit, and wholey supersticious bronze age nonsence.
carny426 4 months ago
@carny426 A farmer can either have free range or battery operated hens. He decides and he decides when they when they go to the Chicken Factory.
You should be thankful that you are a free range human and have free choice. The LORD gives, and the LORD takes away; blessed be the name of the LORD.
Thechristiancullen 4 months ago
@Thechristiancullen 2 Kings 2:23-24 explain this little piece of nonsence that is stated in your presious book. I can play this game if you want, I know alot of the new and old testimonts if you really want to test me on the subject.
carny426 4 months ago
@carny426 You do realise that the Pharisees KNEW lots of scriptures too yet they fail to know Christ.
With regards to Elisha - these were deliquent youths disrepecting an athority figure - rioting and looting youths of Britain need to be wary of judgement. Biblical principle here = respect elders, parents, government, those in authority.
Thechristiancullen 4 months ago
@Thechristiancullen Well I know christ aswell and allow me to say that through the power of logic and reason I realsised that it's all bullshit. Respect those who are worthy of respect no just because they made a your or have been around longer than you. Your god christ is a fraud my friend accept that. He devives from YHWH, who is esentially a volcano god, and christ is nothing more than the tale of a sacrifice that worked. It's all bullshit and it's bad for ya.
carny426 4 months ago
@carny426 Firstly the bible is about Jesus.
2/ Jesus is God, the creator and will be judge.
3/ There are many things that simply cannot be explained with logic and reason.
4/ However, in some parts of the world it requires logic and critical thinking to be the christian.
Thechristiancullen 4 months ago
@Thechristiancullen How can logic be required but not explain? Logic makes sence because it's logic, and when you apply reason to logic then you are never wrong. And if you are wrong, then your logic and or reason is flawed. Jesus is himself AND god? tell me this, is it easier to believe that a malicious wizard in the sky impregnated a woman with HIMSELF, or is it easier to believe a jewish girl told a fib? Extrodinary claims require extrordinary evidence, none of wich any religion can supply.
carny426 4 months ago
@carny426 Lets see; The New Testament says a few hundred people witnessed the resserection of Jesus. SOme of them were non-believers. Evidence suggests that at least seven individuals mentioned in the New Testament were non-believers witnesses of the resurrection in some form: the guards at the tomb, James, Paul, and Paul's travel companions.
There are always non-Christian witnesses in these extraordinary events, but you need to explain why more evidence is always needed.
Thechristiancullen 4 months ago
@Thechristiancullen No you have it all wrong on this evidence thing, because you see other than a few books written by goat herders, and backwater holy men on how the universe works. All of the "evidence" you put forward can be shot down by scientific contradictions, aswell as logical reasoning. So you see you have no evidence of your claims, there for I am inclined to believe nothing you say on the topic.
carny426 4 months ago
@carny426 Excuse me but no other ancient writings have had more copies documentated by various authours - this alone should make you take notice.
Thechristiancullen 4 months ago
@Thechristiancullen So because every one else is doing it I should too? That sounds like some facist ideology to me. What about the other gods that were around for THOUSANDS of years longer than the judeo-christian religions? They didn't have a bunch of authors writing about them? Your throughing semantics at me and semantics will get you no where in an arguement with me. Show me some true blue evidence. Some thing iron clad, then and ONLY then will I take your dogmas into some consideration.
carny426 4 months ago
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@carny426 Firstly earthquakes, tornados, death, creation, the stars etc are deisgned to wake listless atheists up from spiritual numbness and take note.
2/ God has already left the comfort of heaven, become flesh, been rejected and died the death of a criminal for your sins - yet you still want more evidence - what else would you like HIM to do for you cook you a pizza?
Thechristiancullen 4 months ago
@Thechristiancullen You have not replied? Why is it when ever I ask one of the devout for something as simple as stone cold evidence they never reply back? Is it because you now realise that christianity is wrong? I'm not trying to sound insulting, I just ACTUALLY want to know why it is.
carny426 4 months ago
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@carny426 God has already left the comfort of heaven, become flesh, been rejected and died the death of a criminal for your sins - what else do you want him to prove you - would you like him to make you a cheese sandwich?
Even bearded polygamist sinners and listless atheists need Jesus
Thechristiancullen 4 months ago
@carny426 Even if you met Jesus; you would tell Jesus that He doesn’t exist and there’s no scientific evidence that He is Jesus.
Thechristiancullen 4 months ago
@Thechristiancullen Just so you know, I do know Jesus, I work with him. He actually lives like not even a football field away. I also bum him smoke fairly frequntly because he's a bit of a bum and never buys his own. My point is that I gives a fuck about who the hell some one says they are. It matters what their actions are, and what their ideals are, not their name like my buddy Jesus.
carny426 4 months ago
@carny426 Good point - there is difference between knowing about someone and KNOWING them.
Many scribes, Pharisees also knew the scriptures and knew about the Messiah but failed to KNOW him when they met him and wanted him crucified.
The people of biblical times had a choice to make, either to free Jesus or free a serial killer called Barrabas. Yet people shouted in accord and said they would rather free a serial killer and kill God. It is your sin of indifference that crucifys Jesus
Thechristiancullen 4 months ago
@Thechristiancullen But you can never really know him at all (the biblical one, not my bum friend) because he's dead. Has been for a couple thousand years. So how can you know him, one sence he's dead, and two that you can never truly know anyone ore than subjectively. So you don't know him any better than I do. You mearly know the stroy.
carny426 3 months ago
@carny426 Interestingly enough many people have met Jesus before they have read the bible or know his story. This is how many people have been saved in islamic/communist countries where the bible has been banned. Even the bible says it is possible to know HIM without the bible.
Jesus says YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN
Thechristiancullen 3 months ago
@Thechristiancullen Who? have you met them and verified that what they state is true. We all know about the nut job healing evangelicles do with the placing of individuals who are "ill", and are all of a sudden "cleansed" or "healed''... get fuckin real. Its absured to think that this is real. Why can't people look at a garden and accept its beauty for what it is with out having to believe that there's fairies underneith.
carny426 3 months ago
@carny426 Yes - I have even been to one underground church in an islamic country that is full of believers who have encountered the Lord Jesus Christ.
It is very difficult for pampered materialistic smug western atheists to believe in anything except what they see. Things like wealth, insurance, and social welfare makes you insulated.
Sorry to burst your safe bubble but Some things just cannot be explained.
Thechristiancullen 3 months ago
@Thechristiancullen Wealth, insurance, and social welfare in this country makes me sick first off. Second is: Science never claims to know everything. It has evidence to support theories, and if a theory can't stand up to critisism and what not, then it's a flop. Christianity is not true, and these people your talking about are lunitics that misinturpreted something they didn't understand. I'm not a scientest none the less, I'm just a plain every day guy, but that says something if you ask me.
carny426 3 months ago
@carny426 Firstly since when did science become exclusive to atheism?
2/Christianity serves a different purpose to religion. Science can diagnose a cancer and can even find a cure for it, But a scientist will be the first to say, it can't help you to deal with the stress and disappointment that comes with a diagnosis. Also science cannot solve your big problem = sin
Thechristiancullen 3 months ago
@Thechristiancullen I fail to see your point as atheism is a lack of belief, and there for a negative. You can't prove a negative in science. Second science doesn't say that there is a god, in fact the major theories in science that are widley accepted as fact or highly probable, play against the idea of god. And when these theories begain to gain noteriety, then religion says oh well wait this is what our book REALLY means, we just got it wrong for the past so many hundred years...(cont)
carny426 3 months ago
@Thechristiancullen (cont.) I mean shit, the simple fact that religions always claim to know these things and then retract them when something is proven out right wroing should be proof enough. Not that there is no god, but that they are full of shit. As I said you can not prove a negative. And sin is something we're all born with right? it's something we all do right? But animals are different they say, they say that animals have no morality, then explain morning, fear, and evan sympathy.
carny426 3 months ago
@carny426 If man is created in the image of an animal and you are indeed just another ant, hippo or wildebeast; why not just chuck a dead atheists body down a drain somewhere when it is of no value then?
Thechristiancullen 3 months ago
@Thechristiancullen And America, the statistics show, and thats not the case of pizza to be ordered. If anything we have much more problems in answering questions about the universe than so called "christian scientists" becasue we have to find new answers and come up with new theories where as the christian is set in the way of finding god in the cracks of true science. "Why not chuck a dead athiest down a drain." if thats the way they wish to be burried then why not?...
carny426 3 months ago
@carny426 Excuse me but we are talking at cross purposes here - you are still comparing science to religion which is like comparing nuclear reactors to raising children or comparing cooking pizzas to sovling depression.
Science does not solve man's biggest problem = sin - why do you think some scientists and Doctors still end up in jail?
Thechristiancullen 3 months ago
@Thechristiancullen Because scientists and doctors occasionally commit crimes? Sin is a social/religious construct. There are phychological as well as social issues behind crimes. People break laws for many different reasons and if religion can just back off for a minute we may be able to get to the bottom of it rationally... as they do on a daily basis all around the world, they are called police officers and detectives.
Paul07791 3 months ago
@Paul07791 Excuse me but once again I think you are confusing religion with Jesus.
Jesus hated religion too - after all it was the bearded religious men who wanted HIM crucified in the first place. Our sin of indifference still kills God by nailing Jesus to the cross.
Also the police are only good as the laws they enforce ; murder, genocide, rape etc. For instance everyone knew that killing Jews was wrong - even Hitler did otherwise he would not have committed suicide.
Thechristiancullen 3 months ago
@Thechristiancullen It is logical that the people who wrote the 2nd testament created a character who would denounce other religions as false. Moses did it previously, because the idea is to reel in as many people as possible. Of course Jews are the villains - lets not forget the bit when Jesus trashed a market in disgust at greed (though many converted of course).
I am not indifferent; I definitely do not believe in god. Hitler commited suicide because the allied forces were on his doorstep.
Paul07791 3 months ago
@Paul07791 No - Old Testament prophecies state that God would have a SON called God who would die for our sins. NT merely fulfills over 60 OT prophecies.
The bible is about Jesus. It shows that man is incapable of saving himself through religion or atheism and why we need a Svaiour. Religion is just as bad as atheism. The sin of the bible is pride which causes listlessness and hatred.
Even bearded polygamist religious men and listless atheists need Jesus.
Thechristiancullen 3 months ago
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@carny426 Excuse me but we are talking at cross purposes here - you are still comparing science to religion which is like comparing nuclear reactors to raising children or comparing cooking pizzas to sovling depression.
Science does not solve man's biggest problem = sin - why do you think some scientists and Doctors still end up in jail?
Thechristiancullen 3 months ago
@Thechristiancullen Your getting into sanctity of life stuff. I say this, " If everything thats ever lived is dead, and everything alive is going to die, then whats so sacred about that?" And you never answered my questions, you never do to tell you the truth, and I would really like to continue this debate, but you must answer my questions aswell, it is not fare for me to give and recieve nothing, and if there is something that I can not answer then I admit it. You do not. Why is that?
carny426 3 months ago
@carny426 Death like earthquakes, evil, cyclones, disease, tsunamis are a reminder that we are not God and to wake up listless atheists. The stars and creation are evidence of God in the same way that dinosaur bones are evidence of dinosaurs.
Thechristiancullen 3 months ago
@Thechristiancullen Do you see what I'm trying to say? Like are you saying that you absolutley believe every word in the bible? Do you understand what I'll say at least? Do you refuse to believe it? Or do you like I said truely believe all of that stuff? What about evolution? And physics? Or the ever growing populace of people who don't believe in religions, and are completley secularist in there ideals?
carny426 3 months ago
@carny426 But you are saying that evolution is exclusive to atheism which is not the case. Evolution is even debated within christianity. You do not become a mindless sheep when you get saved - rather one must think about issues like evolution, epistemology, naturalistic philosophy, calvinsim, predestination, over-realised eschatology, dispensationalism etc - whereas most atheists ony need to worry about what sort of pizza they order.
The only growing populace of atheists is amongst europeans.
Thechristiancullen 3 months ago
@carny426 EVIDENCE = earthquakes, tornados, aging, death, evil, your conscience, beauty, creation, the stars, the earth has a limited time etc are deisgned to wake listless atheists up from spiritual numbness and take note. Historical evidence of the birth, life and death of Jesus.
Thechristiancullen 4 months ago
@Thechristiancullen god you are a FUCKING IDIOT!!
Daedae333 4 weeks ago
@Daedae333 Who appointed you Professor of Idiots!
Thechristiancullen 3 weeks ago
@Daedae333 Why do atheists keep bringing God into their conversations anyway?
Thechristiancullen 3 weeks ago
@Thechristiancullen Because It's the main talk. You think some mombo jumbo can do everything while we do not.
Mindaugas7100 1 day ago
@Mindaugas710 However according to you; at some time in the distant past there was no life in the universe -- just elements and chemical compounds. Somehow, these chemicals combined and came to life - now that requires some faith.
Thechristiancullen 1 day ago
@Thechristiancullen Maybe a long weith chemical compounds there was bacteria and there are other posibilities. But then again if we are designed by what you would call god then if he's omniscient and omnipotent he be purposely make use so flawed as we are today. Also why would god create people before jesus allow another religion to exist and then punish them for the religion he created which follows some other "fake" god??(example like Greeks, romans, egyptians, muslims etc)
Mindaugas7100 1 day ago
@Mindaugas7100 It is only atheists that are so certain that life arrived from goo to you by way of the zoo. It has never been observed in any laboratory that mutations can cause one species to turn into another.
Thechristiancullen 1 day ago
@Thechristiancullen The reality is, if you accept that god made everything and is also all powerful also proves he makes everyone and everything the way he wants therefore making other gods aswell.
Mindaugas7100 1 day ago
@Mindaugas7100 All other gods and religions are works based and like atheism; deny original sin and the Lord Jesus Christ as saviour.
Thechristiancullen 1 day ago
@Thechristiancullen HAHAHAAH, retarted statement, i feel sorry for you because you got no clue what your talking about. Why would god invent other religion as opposing to himself and do not give anyclues about himself then purpolely send his creation to an after life. Tell me this because you might not be so bright so i put in simple words, why does god send people to hell if they believe different god at the time before jesus was born and even when he was born.
Mindaugas7100 1 day ago
@Mindaugas7100 George Bernard Shaw said, "The Bible is the most dangerous book in the world, keep it lock and keyed." Why do you think an atheist like Shaw would say this when he also said: "There is not one single established religion that an intelligent, educated man can believe."
Thechristiancullen 1 day ago
@Thechristiancullen Vast majority of people never knew jesus even exsisted after him for a while nor in him time while living in distant countries. So by your view God intented to do this nosense, look mister, pull your head out of your ass and wake up, you are way to deluded. Not to mention the key in evolution is mutation.
Mindaugas7100 1 day ago
@Mindaugas7100 Rubbish - 90% of the worlds population has been born since the birth of Christ. The dead sea scrolls are dated at 100 B.C. contain 19 copies of Isaiah, 25 copies of Deuteronomy and 30 copies of Psalms that are virtually identical to what we have in our Bible's today.Old Testament prophets forsaw that God would have a SON called God who would die for your sins.
Thechristiancullen 1 day ago
@Thechristiancullen No it is not rubbish, only about perhaps 15% tops of world population knew of jesus at time when he done "miracles" and raised people form death and other nosense. Your god is cruel and wicked being also arrogant and proud over nothing.
Mindaugas7100 1 day ago
@Mindaugas7100 The world population at the time of Abraham at 5 million. There seems to be broad agreement that the world population at the time of Christ was between 200 and 300 million. 95% of the total worlds population have been born after the birth of Christ.
God is not some distant being but became flesh. Most people know about Christ but choose to reject HIM. Your sin kills God by nailing HIM to the cross - I wonder who the cruel and wicked really are?
Thechristiancullen 1 day ago
@Thechristiancullen You sir are way to delusional, tellme isn't slavery and owing women as toys is not wicked? there is plenty of discusting stuff that has been taken out which you don't even know probably. Like mister Dawkins said "lets take out the nasty bits and leave the good bits". Honestly you couldn't win if you meet muslin with same degree of faith as you do, your simply blinded yourself from the truth and willnever admit it.
Mindaugas7100 15 hours ago
@Mindaugas7100 Firstly the bible is about Jesus.
2/ Why are you reading the bible if you do not know HIM?
3/ An atheist or a muslim trying to understand the bible is like a cannibal trying to understand a vegeterian cook book - useless unless you are born again.
4/ With regards to slavery and polygamy - go read a book on dispensationalism - if you read the bible like you do you would also expect the Red Sea to open each time a Jew goes near it.
Thechristiancullen 2 hours ago
@Thechristiancullen And still my question is the same, whywould god invent other gods and also at the time of jesus whydidn't everyone heard of him? that means with puropse he intended to send some poeple to hell.
Mindaugas7100 15 hours ago
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1. why so angry? did a man touch you when you were young? did your mother never love you? calm down you are making athiests look aggressive and stupid. 2. please explain how? i love how people don't believe in god and still want to cling to a idea that they still have some worth in this universe. If there is no God then there is no point to life, not that I'm bothered by that unlike some people.... 3. *Sherlock not 'Shearlock' but you're American so I'll let you off
MattHXIV 4 months ago
Dawkins Planets of the Apes theory is a delusion
oOADROo 4 months ago
@exclusivesnc
so there is a meaning to life but no god?
MattHXIV 5 months ago
@MattHXIV No shit Shearlock, you just now figureing that out? Or are you trying to make a dopey ass statement in the form of a question? Wake the fuck up you blind sheep fuck.
carny426 4 months ago
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MattHXIV 4 months ago
@MattHXIV Sucks your comment got removed, but yes I read your comment in the wrong context, for that I apologize, I was drunk and my wits were at a faultering. But yes, I completly argee with you there is no point to life, it's just a random, and chance acurance on a backwater mud ball floating around a giant burning ball of hydrogen.
carny426 4 months ago
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@carny426 How depressing. It is no wonder that 2004, the American Journal of Psychiatry reported "Religiously unaffiliated subjects had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than christians"
Thechristiancullen 4 months ago
No matter how many videos and speeches I hear about people saying God isn't real I will never deny that he is because of what he has done in me in my heart. That's something science can try to explain but I will never deny it wasn't God. I have such peace In my heart knowing he is and one day everyone will see him and then they will try to turn away from everything they did and repent but it will be too late. I promise it will happen :) hope to see y'all in heaven! I'll be praying for y'all.
lazytalk1 5 months ago
The problem is to many people find logic in religion but at the end of the day religion has no logic just go out and test it stand in the line of a on going truck and see if your faith will remove it or see if jeuse or god will intervene. Chance is you wont see tomorrow im not saying there no reason for are being here but I can tell you this its not the man made god who people have been following.
exclusivesnc 5 months ago
@exclusivesnc ...religion has no logic....
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Without doubt, one of the factors in the emergence of anti-religious ideas and a phalanx of deniers of God, has been the false teachings, the inadequacies and the intellectual perversions of the followers of some religions. The peculiarities and separate characteristics of each religion must, therefore, be individually examined when studying the reasons that have led men to adhere to that religion.
1tabligh 5 months ago
Winner is willthewgman good debate but once again logic and reason wins this battle.
exclusivesnc 5 months ago
Science itself is dogmatic by solely relying on the limited five human senses in its observations alone. It not only can't answer truths in human morality, justice, emotions & ones self awareness as an individual with free-will; it discounts all of these carte blanc as mere biochemical illusions via this limited view. If bacteria had it's own logic & reason then used the scientific method how would they perceive the same world we live in with their senses, would we be mindless to them? Cont>
WILLTHEWGMAN 5 months ago
Cont>: Science is just as presumptuous a human proposition to a truth seeking method and just as dogmatic and limited as a false religion. Science is only a sub-set of human philosophy but it's proposition as the sole truth mechanism discounts the very notion of truth in humanity and philosophy as no more than biochemical illusory. In this regard philosophy has birthed a god called science which has proved it's own mother a myth!
WILLTHEWGMAN 5 months ago
@WILLTHEWGMAN The moment you stop using internet, computers (including mobile phones) ALL of which are Scientific discoveries,I will take your opinion seriously. Until then you are but a hypocrite.
yancur 5 months ago
@yancur
Science does not create technology no more than the English alphabet wrote E.A. Poe's, The Raven or a maple tree and horse hair composed Pachelbel's Canon in D Major. Human ingenuity and labor creates technology, not science! Science is a method, not a creator! Science does not discover, humans do!
WILLTHEWGMAN 5 months ago
@WILLTHEWGMAN Are you really an idiot or are you just pretending? Of course Scinece doesn't create anything it is an English word. But in your absurd logic Humans don't create anything either, cos' it's still just an English word!
Science is an abstract term that denotes all the "wisdom" or "knowledge" that HUMANS (human minds) put together to allow us create TECHNOLOGY through HUMAN HANDS.
Uh oh, but wait "Hands" are also just a word! They cannot create anything!!
yancur 5 months ago
@yancur
Let me make this simple for you; What part of the scientific method was necessary to take existing knowledge and human ingenuity and labor to create the "Internet, computers (including mobile phones)"?
Your claim is that these are "Scientific discoveries" so you must have a reason to claim this. It is necessary to come up with premisses then a conclusion prior to inventors inventing? Are you claiming science to be beyond a method and what parts of science are necessary for invention?
WILLTHEWGMAN 5 months ago
@WILLTHEWGMAN Look what we got here?! Another Strawman Fighter! Where did I say anything about Scientific Method?! Scientific Method is currently the best, most reliable and fastest method to "create Science" (to gather knowledge or whatever you want to call it). Was it always part of the Science? NO. Will it always be. Probably NOT.
Could computers exist without using scientific method? Yes, but it would take us much much longer to create them. Was science (knowledge) necessary?YES, definitely
yancur 5 months ago
@yancur
Science does not = Knowledge, knowledge does not change nor is ever wrong. If science just means knowledge why in the world would we need another word for it? I agree that knowledge from a conscious mind is required for human invention, I just don't invoke the word science in this assertion because then science starts to sound like something it is not...
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TheServiceWeb 5 months ago
great video...More of this reasoning and less pandering to religios nutjobs
tommdddd 6 months ago
This video must be shown to every religious person on Earth
I would like to see (among many many others) the Popes or Ruhollah Khomenis reaction to this video
ByabyaChannel 6 months ago
Gregor Mendel, a catholic monk, father of Genetics. He gives us an example of how christianty and science should not conflict, but complement each other. He is celebrated by Google today!
jorgediego 6 months ago
@jorgediego huh? celebrated by google? what does that mean...I suggest all religious people were once scientists...The problem was we got better explanations...and bronze age myths became implausible.
tommdddd 6 months ago
@feanando but he stil has some very good arguments
pochopaz7381 6 months ago
I hate you Richard Dawkins! It's YOUR fault nobody can stand the sight, sound or smell of me. I HATE YOU! Why do teenage boys find you attractive, BUT NOT ME?!? *SOBBING*
rnalithe00 7 months ago
I will accuse you of being an immature teenager while calling you a douchebag over and over. Then maybe you'll start believing in god!
Or maybe all I'll do is cause people who do believe in god to reconsider their position. Well, I'll never know unless I try!
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rnalithe00 7 months ago
Maybe if I call you a douchebag a few thousand more times, you'll start believing in my god and become a better person.
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rnalithe00 7 months ago
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Please!
Know how shallow Dawkins is by knowing the criticism to his VERY, VERY FRAGIL book and arguments... Watch on Youtube:
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William Lane Craig Leaves a Chair Open for Richard Dawkins
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No wonder why he is running from Craig as the devil from the Cross: this true philosopher could easily show what an unprepared liar he is!
Thanks!
feanando 7 months ago
The question that we may never answer is "who created the creator/big bang".
At least science keeps looking.
BTW - science will never have all the answers because science by its nature keeps questioning.
I guess the problem with science is that it is insufficiently focused on what happens to the "soul" after death so the knowledge enhanced does not provide sufficient comfort.
rdvqc 7 months ago
Look up FunVax - You'll learn some thing...
JoeyLambardi 8 months ago
Dawkins has so many haters, but even so many years after the book comes out, not one will actually stand up and prove him wrong. You can bet they would if they could.
Ozzyman200 8 months ago
"It's possible to understand that the soul is an illusion, but
it's impossible to not get fooled by it."
andenandenia 9 months ago
dawkins talks and talks and SAYS NOTHING! LOL
atheists are brainwashed idiots! LOL
malithe00 10 months ago
@malithe00 People who don't blindly accept things as truth without any reason or evidence are brainwashed? Oh the irony. You must think people who don't believe in purple unicorns are idiots too. Go pray to your imaginary friend.
BerzergerR 9 months ago 2
@DumbAsABurgerR, was THAT supposed to be intelligent? Seriously??? LOL douche
malithe00 9 months ago
@malithe00 Funny how you continuously insult people and yet completely fail to present any arguments for your point of view or say anything even remotely intelligible. Still don't get why everyone thinks you're retarded?
BerzergerR 9 months ago
@Berdoucher, you are a douchebag, but I'm sure you heard this before from your mom. LOL
malithe00 9 months ago
@BerzergerR How could some of the scientists permit themselves to make a claim that would necessitate knowledge as extensive as the scheme of the universe, when their knowledge of the total scheme of being is *close* to zero, when confronted with a whole mass of unknowns concerning this very earth and tangible, lifeless matter, let alone the whole universe?
1tabligh 9 months ago
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Then how can the atheists and some of the scientists delude themselve and believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
1tabligh 9 months ago
atheists are brainwashed? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha buddy, everything about your religion is delusional.
urmomlikeschips 8 months ago
@urmomlikescunts, ur a doosh
malithe00 8 months ago
@urmomlikescocks, your a childish douchebag. LOL but your mom and her boyfriend probably tell you that all the time.
malithe00 7 months ago
@malithe00 athiests are brainwashed idiots? well sorry for not following blindly in the path of a book that was probably edited so much over the years that it lost all reason and was inteded as a metaphor and not to be taken literally
TheLordgene 8 months ago
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@TheLordgene How could some of the scientists permit themselves to make a claim that would necessitate knowledge as extensive as the scheme of the universe, when their knowledge of the total scheme of being is *close* to zero, when confronted with a whole mass of unknowns concerning this very earth and tangible, lifeless matter, let alone the whole universe?
1tabligh 8 months ago
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Then how can the atheists and some of the scientists delude themselve and believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
1tabligh 8 months ago
@TheLowrdgenePool, did you say all that with one breath? you must be VERY popular with the older atheist boys. LOL
malithe00 8 months ago
@malithe00 HA. your reply was acctually really funny, however my argument is that the bible must not have meant to have ben taken so litteraly, more as some form of guideline for life. i dont myself belive in what the bilbe teaches however the bible perhaps is difficult to see as a rulebook
TheLordgene 7 months ago
@malithe00 Brainwashed? Are you serious? Brainwashed is a person strapping a bomb to themselves because someone says it's the will of god. Brainwashed is fighting in a war because someone says god wants it to be so. Brainwashed is denouncing all other possibilities in existence because they do not coincide with your personal beliefs. If anything religion brainwashes and science tries to explain the question of why or how whereas religion just says because god says so. Your comment is uneducated.
WRK004 8 months ago
@DOESN'TWRK004, absolutely you imbecile. When did this pedophile dawkins EVER say ANYTHING intelligent??? WHEN???? LOL He only talks to "kids" listen to the way he talks... he talks to docile, unintelligent, lemmings LOL
malithe00 8 months ago
@malithe00 You seem to be clearly set in your ways so there is no trying to reason with you. Name calling seems to be your best response so I'll let you have it. At this point we seem to agree on one thing and that is to disagree. In my experience I have never once seen or heard anything to suggest gods existence. If there is indeed a god then I will answer to him/her when the time comes. Not by someone who follows blindly spouting self righteous phrases and resorts to name calling.
WRK004 8 months ago 3
@DOESNTWRK004, are you serious with this imbecility of yours? Only a childish, facetious, piece of shit would EVER say, "In my experience I have never once seen or heard anything to suggest gods existence." What complete dishonesty and facetiousness. LOL douche
malithe00 7 months ago
@malithe00 Actually name calling is a sign of imbecility since the person that feels the need to insult with curse words cannot or has limited potential in relaying their thoughts into words. That being said this will be my last post so don't bother with further insults. However since you seem only to want to troll you might not be able to help yourself. As I said earlier I do not believe in god and I have my reasons. If wrong then I will answer to god for my mistakes and not someone like you.
WRK004 7 months ago
dawkins is a true imbecile
The Emperor's New Clothes have been exposed. LOL
Bright colors, neat graphics, cool music and coercive text are what leftists use to capture immature, unsure minds with "chaotic" thinking.
malithe00 10 months ago
@malithe00 Hopefully nobody will realize the irony of this comment coming from a Fox News lemming such as myself.
rnalithe00 7 months ago
@RNalithe00, silly atheist douchebags like you are why I call silly atheist douchebags like you, silly atheist douchebags. LOL
malithe00 7 months ago
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Check out the following video entitled: Fé Ciência Glauben Wissenschaft Faith Science Esmeralda Campelo Antônio Peters. With enlightening arguments and facts, speaks Pastor Antonio Peters in an interview about his book entitled “Alpha and Omega“ (English subtitels)
“The book Alpha and Omega is not based on science to explain the Bible, it is based on the Bible and uses science as a keyhole to say: "Look, the Bible already tells us this and goes even further! (Pastor Antônio, 2010)"
RabieFam7 10 months ago
A universal theology is impossible, but a universal experience is not only possible but necessary. - ACIM
The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the
same level of thinking with which we created them. - Einstein
Anomki 10 months ago
religion is the worst thing that happend to humanity.......... thin about it how meny wars have been born from religin causes, haw many peopole have die
BinLadenCelFlocos 10 months ago
"Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings"
"Religion builds soup kitchens, science builds atom bombs"
See how erroneous it is to compare "our best" to "their worst"
Keysteeze 10 months ago
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@Keysteeze ""Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings"
"Religion builds soup kitchens, science builds atom bombs"
See how erroneous it is to compare "our best" to "their worst"
- How erroneous of you to state an equivocal point !...one that does not stack up when examined, if you need me to, I will explain why !
nordhorny 8 months ago
@nordhorny ....religion doesnt build soup kitchens
MamaMario13 7 months ago
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@MamaMario13 "....religion doesnt build soup kitchens"
- I am not going to say anything yet, please tell me why you said this...
nordhorny 7 months ago
@Keysteeze (meanwhile in reality...)
Moral Christian Man: "Damn poor people and their soup kitchens! What kind of commie socialist age are we living in??? GET A JOB! Plenty of positions in the military! Not enough towel-heads have been nuked yet!"
rnalithe00 7 months ago
@rnalithe00 ha. Come on man. There are pernicious individuals of all persuasions. I will not deny that bigoted garbage like this has come out of some religious peoples mouths (probably verbatim). However I believe that many secularist paint with a wide, harsh, and incorrect brush as well when it comes to religions and religious people.
Keysteeze 7 months ago
His book basically takes the best of science and the worst of religion.
Absurd to say the least.
fandanstan 10 months ago
@fandanstan
I wonder what is the "best" of religion? Cos' I can't for the life of me come up with anything positive about it at all, that wouldn't exist elsewhere in a more benign form.
Name just one objectively positive thing, that wouldn't exist on this planet without religion.
yancur 10 months ago 18
@yancur Without religious people, what you call science and the scientific method would not exist today. Ironic, ain't it? :)
Let's see. It's funny how you seem to forget about the nuclear bomb, etc etc. Even in a secular country like America, it's still high up on the list for the most crimes and whatnot.
Next time, don't talk out of your ass.
fandanstan 10 months ago
@yancur Catholic school girl outfits for the mrs. :P
mistereveready 9 months ago
@fandanstan Absurd????? Religion=Absurd
whiskeygoggles 8 months ago
@whiskeygoggles Your reply = absurd.
fandanstan 8 months ago
@fandanstan Your life = absurd
whiskeygoggles 8 months ago 6
@whiskeygoggles OMG It's great to be 12 again! Thanks!
fandanstan 8 months ago
@fandanstan Anytime douchebag!
whiskeygoggles 8 months ago
@fandanstan are you kidding me?!!
except for child fucking war abusing women and so on what has come out of religion?
you respond by saying the charity work that the church for example does. Well Hamas and Hezbulah do a lot of charity too.
I know from personal experience that once you put religion and its preachers in charge everything changes from good or bearable to fucking hell.
80farah 6 months ago
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evolutionist just the hair fell but the brain did not evolve they still have the same brain from the monkey
ThePinomoca 10 months ago
Recent upload: "Has Science Buried God?" - Richard Dawkins vs John Lennox debate (1/8)
jonflatmo 11 months ago
Yeah...everyone should just watch religulous by bill mayer.... we're just human. We live and we die, the latter being the hardest to accept for this we'll prob be the only time we have... and all we'll have is questions, we'll never know.
JoeDicks1987 11 months ago
Yea, I have a better one!
“In questions of science the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual.”
The "thousand" of course being religion - Being a scientist in Gallileo's day was a nightmare thanks to religion.
guitarplayer4real 11 months ago
Religion was man's attempt at describing nature's wonders without science, math, or chemistry ect. Man's ability to observe his own creative actions could have led him to question a possibility of an ultimate creator of his being. If you believe in a god with religion or not, that's your own privilege to believe if that gives you peace of mind. Its easy to believe, but hard to think. "Science without faith is lame, faith without science is blind" -Elbert Einstein
JoeDicks1987 11 months ago
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@TRUNDLETHOR In the Quran it says "In time We will show them Our Signs in the utmost Horizons and within themselves, so that it will become manifest to them that this (Qur'an) is indeed the Truth. Is it not enough for them to know that your Lord is Witness to all things".Allah will show the whole world and that day we will all come to know
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sunside31 11 months ago
@TRUNDLETHOR There cannot be any contradiction whatsoever between the established science and the Quran. This is because both the Universe and the Quran are creations of One God. The universe is the 'work' of God and the Quran is the 'word' of God. Science is about discovering Allah's 'laws in action' in the Universe.It says in the Quran
"Do they not reflect upon the Quran? Were it from anyone other than Allah they would have found many inconsistencies or discrepancies therein the quran"
sunside31 11 months ago
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