Praise God! Hope the one in Poland goes down too! Just like the one in Ohio struck by lightning. MAybe people will get it eventually that making images angers God.
@singapore7773 sounds like the building of the temple to me, this was a direct instruction on a one time thing, the commandment bans man making images on his own, for saints he declares
@singapore7773 I'm sure your mother is proud of you, being a servant of the worlds largest peadophile ring oh wait its called the Roman catholic Church, have no illusions God hates
@rayjt17 my mom was 10x more catholic than me. If a priest breaks the law put him h jail. pretty simple hey. But that is not what u or your kind do, just talk about it for the next 100yrs if possible. Not to mention we got tape of Planned Parenthood helping child sex/rape rings, no out cry at all. surprise surprise
@singapore7773 why don't you go further than that why dont you put the pope and trial, and my kind, what kind is that? the catholic church is rotten to the core, a good tree cannot bear bad fruit
@rayjt17 why dont i put the pope on trial? simple, i am not a Dist. Att. the question is why doesnt any distract attorney do it?... the church is not rotten to the core. if it were it could not produce good fruit like Mother Teresa, of St. John Henry Newman or countless other saints. i was debating a muslim scholar one time and i asked him, where is your mother teresa? he said we got nothing like her. The catholic church is not rotten, she is 2000yrs young
@singapore7773 well Roman teaching places the pope above the civil law, no its rotten, were talking about a a system that burned you alive for owning a Bible in the middle ages
@rayjt17 yes the pope is above civil law. there is after all only one pope in the world. Bibles in those days were hand written for a specific customer. like a church or university. So if u had one it was probably ill gotten or worse fake. The bible was taken very serious in those days
@singapore7773 strange that, so your saying the Church Jesus set up is at the same time the world's largest peadophile ring, who say they don;t last 2000 years, babylon the great is very old
@rayjt17 strange that King David in the bible is called a man after God's own heart! and he was a murderer?Who is the pope of babylon the great? just asking. Also speaking of King David, God said his throne would last forever. The pope is the successor to King David. Also Paul was a murderer. Also Jesus picked Judas. Peter denied he even knew Jesus. So no it is not strange that some priest are evil.
@singapore7773 they repeneted you idiot, Rome just tried to cover itheir sin, I'm done with you, you just love your false church and excuse its disghusting acts as it pleases you, and then drag the name of God into the whole sick filth that is Romanism, now be gone I have no time for fools
Mother Superior…quick get the Crazy Glue! Love the crazy old nun in the front row - and the old mafia guy who picks up the pieces...this vid is truly award-winning and priceless! Meanwhile the four carrying the statue are near death -- what were the organizers thinking? This is truly unscripted street theatrics at its best!
Non spaventatevi, non temete! Non te l'ho forse annunciato e dichiarato da tempo? Voi siete miei testimoni. C'è forse un Dio all'infuori di me? Non c'è altra Rocca; non ne conosco alcuna».
Quelli che fabbricano immagini scolpite sono tutti vanità; le loro cose piú preziose non giovano a nulla; i loro propri testimoni non vedono né comprendono, per cui saranno coperti di vergogna.
Chi fabbrica un dio o fonde un'immagine scolpita senza averne alcun vantaggio? CREDETE SOLO IN GESU!
Jesus, Mary, Joseph: this is hilarious. I love that drunk nun in the first row. She knows that her prayers are now going unanswered because she didn't save that statue of plaster of paris and cheap paint. She must be punished for leaving that banana peal there in the church aisle. Cry and moan, sinners, but remember: THE LAST LAUGH IS ON YOU!
@rumpwrestler Satan himself has worked diligently for thousands of years to take down Jesus.
God created satan, Hell was created by God to punish satan and the angels. God himself the creator came down in the form of a man..JESUS! You really think Jesus is going to fall???? unbelievable nonsense!
@brian9monty Jesus didn't fall but he did melt down as you know. OHIO, that sinner state, hates god and jesus and understandably so. Lightning hits jesus and his tons of margarine melt down. A splendid sign that god couldn't give a rat's ass.
This is my favorite vid ever!! There is something so fine and special about seeing some silly, overpainted Disney-like plaster of paris statue get splattered all over the church floor. Hell, I'd love to see the Virgin Mary Statue take a nose dive. I watch this vid over and over and never stop laughing. Isn't the screaming and hysteria in the church JUST TOO PERFECT?!?!? OK, Jesus, you're next in line for THE TAKE DOWN!
@rumpwrestler Slight problem there, I agree with you up until your last phrase. You won't take Him down because Jesus is alive and NOT a statue! He will break you before you can break Him!
That guy isn't even holding the handle. He's just letting it sit on his shoulder while he walks. Than when he spins around to try and grab it, the whole thing slides off.
I know you don't understand. I said christianity is a false doctrine, just like islam or any other religion. Reading comprehension is definitely key in this.
And, yes the Christ IS the Saviour. Ha MAsyach is from the tribe of Yahudah, an Israelite acc. to the Holy scriptures. Unlike muhammad, The Messiah taught us that the Torah is NEVER done away with. Again, Matthew 5:17-19
I have done more indepth researchy than google. LOL. Besides, I told you already, I'm an ISRAELITE, just like all negroes who descended from the slaves. Period.
Btw, did you know the term "christian"was a derogatory name given to those who FOLLOW Messiah? Did you know these modern day christians do NOT follow the Messiah, nor do they uphold the Torah?
They teach the laws are done away with, just like your beloved muhammad, that false prophet, who is not even of Israel.Read Matt.5:17-19
only muslims n religious nuts r cowards. u don't know anything about GOD cause there is no knowledge in Islam nor in any other religion. muhammad is a damn fraud who took his concepts str8 from the Bible. I done told u already christianity, judaism, islam, atheism , basically all religions don't have a damn thing to do with the GOD of Israel or his people. u talking about hell proves u dumb muslims believe the same fairy tale doctrine as chiristians do. + there's plenty of errors in the quran
Again, dumb muslims. Let me clarify this for you, so you can understand what I'm talking about. You muslims, christians, buddhists, so called self proclaimed fraudulent jewISH ppl, and all you religions are nothing but little off shoots of the Roman catholic church, the satanic order of the world. This INCLUDES the talmud, hadith and all other religions of the world. now do you understand?
I doubt you will. Just know that the real children of Israel are so called negroes.
The Holy Land is and will always be Jerusalem. Not no damn mecca. That pedofile n false prophet muhammad made that up, just like switching the sabbath day from sat to fri., the day of atonemenmt ot ramadan. Read Psalms 96. The idols include those of the Ishaelites. Also read Jeremiah 2:27, this goes for both you muslims and you christians. The hajar aswad is nothing but a damn meteorite.
LOL. your allah is nothing but a damn rock sittinfg in mecca. Besides,what about the dumb muslims that die over circling around that damn idol rock called kaaba? Or what aboput the great dajal droppin'bombs on you dumb muslims in the middle east? Where allah @? LMAO
You dumbass muslims and christians are both set up by the Roman catholic Church. The Elohim of Israel is the real GOD. And the real Israelites R the ppl you like to look down upon. The hell with your moongod & them christianity gods
The problem is when an "image" ie. carving, statue etc is worshiped. this looks like worship to me and that is wrong! Worship God and God alone! Maranatha.
There is a difference between worship (in Greek, latria) and veneration (dulia). Only God is worshiped, but the saints are venerated, especially the Theotokos.
No one venerates the statue itself - the marble or bronze. That is silly. It is honoring the person depicted. These people are in heaven with God, and have been made perfect. We honor their example and try to be like them. We ask for their prayers.
So that verse: 'Why do you call me good? None is good except God. But to enter into life, you must keep the commandments'. Need I post the second commandment?
So I quoted u a verse from the NT, and you can look up the ten commandments. Now if you insist that you may bow down to statues and commemorate using idols and graven images, then surely you must point to some authority- a prophet of your religion, that said that it is okay to use statues.
The 7th Ecumenical Council - Nicaea II. Look it up. They anathematized iconoclasm. An ecumenical council holds the authority of the entire Church, the ultimate authority in such matters.
And again, it's not about the statue. That is an aid for our weak, unfocused human minds. It is a means, not an end, for veneration (not worship). No one is worshiping the statue itself.
Wait, did Jesus sanction that council to 'anathematize iconoclasm'? Or it may just be pretentious language for saying: 'who cares what God says- our whims are more important'.
Again, making statues are a violation of the commandments. If you have biblical text to prove otherwise, please do so.
Lastly: EVERY source I've researched all concluded that 'Luke' is an anonymous text. If you have evidence otherwise, please present it. Don't prove yourself an arrogant transgressor.
It's no more based on whims than the New Testament canon, which was decided using the very same ecumenical council process and the very same standards of truthfulness. It's true because the entire Christian Church said it was true. You have to accept the Ecumenical Councils as authoritative if you accept the New Testament canon.
If not, Jesus is a liar and the Holy Spirit abandoned the Church to apostasy, because everyone agreed on these matters for centuries.
As to the Gospel of Luke, yes, it is internally anonymous. That doesn't matter. The Silence Dogood letters don't say "I'm really Benjamin Franklin", but we know he wrote them. Church Tradition says he wrote it, and there is no good reason to think otherwise, except for the sake of being disagreeable.
Forget inconsequential books. The Gospel of Luke is not an irrelevant book in your eyes. Fact: it has no known author. Fact: 'the gospel according to Luke' is not its original name- it was always an anonymous piece.
Fact: the book has always been anonymous. Just as John 7:53-8:11 is cut out of newer bibles, because they believe it as a false later addition.
Again, u keep pointing to 'tradition' or 'concensus' but you haven't dropped any names or references.
I don't dispute these three facts. However, the book has always been known as the Gospel According to Luke. Our earliest manuscript, Papyrus Bodmer XIV from around AD 200, has this title.
The book is indeed internally anonymous, but the Church has always said Luke wrote it, and with no evidence to the contrary (nowhere does it say it's not Luke) there is no reason to doubt this. Except, again, for the sake of being disagreeable.
Interesting point. But nowhere does it say that its Luke either. So how do they know? Please point to some english text or a translation that supports your opinion.
Because I've pointed several times to the second commandment. If you know of something that nullified the second commandment, please let us know. Thank u.
Venerating images is not idol worship. Please read "Apologia Against Those Who Decry Holy Images" by St John of Damascus if you honestly want to study this subject. It explains how that fits with the 2nd Commandment and every other Bible verse you can think of.
You are arguing from silence. You're saying that, since it's anonymous, Luke didn't write it. That's a fallacious argument. The oldest copy of Luke we have, Papyrus Bodmer XV, is entitled "Kata Loukan" ("According to Luke").
'St John of Damascus' never met Jesus. Rather, he was an 8th century figure who wrote according to his own interpretations. He used some OT verses and then interpreted them as saying: see, God does not want you to love the idol as you love Him, hence it is okay, so long as u don't love the idol more than u love him.- With no acknowledgment of the 2nd commandment.
An icon is like a photograph of the Mona Lisa. My appreciation for the photo is not for the photo itself (icon or statue), but for the original painting (the saint), and ultimately for the artist, Leonardo Da Vinci (or the creator, God). By honoring the image, I honor the creator.
The 2nd Commandment is valid insofar as idolatry is involved. Since dulia is not worship and icons are not idols, I don't understand.
The 2nd Commandment cannot be construed to the Islamic extreme of no depictions of any kind. That is silly, but it seems to be what you're arguing for.
God became matter, so we can worship him through matter.
So...the saints collectively decided that creating statues are not a violation of the 2nd commandment? And it is okay if mere men get together to override God's Laws? Pointing out that regular men- not prophets- agreeing not to practice God's Laws does not make you a righteous person. It makes you a blind follower at best, or maybe even an arrogant transgressor.
Saying that we need statues for weak minds makes an convincing argument legalizing prostitution for weak men.
All Christians accepted the 7th Ecumenical Council. It seemed good to the Spirit and to them that this was right, and it was verified by all the clergy and the people by their acceptance.
There is far too much deep theology to get into here, but you can read the canons of the council for yourself. All the scriptural issues are discussed.
Google "canons of the seventh ecumenical council" for more information.
Yes, point understood. But it generally seemed good to the Jews also that they disregard Jesus, and hence he was not taken for their messiah. Are they then correct in their concensus? The Lutherans just allowed gay clergymembers, are they also correct in this? You see, forming a concensus around something does not mean its lawful. So it does not matter which group of people wants to override God's Laws. Can you point to a biblical or prophetic clause legalizing statues?
The Jews did not possess the Holy Spirit, so those were the opinions of men. The Lutherans divorced themselves from the Apostolic Church centuries ago. They are capable of error, therefore.
Consensus is law if the apostles are the ones who form the consensus. The apostles were the first bishops, and the heirs to the apostles are the bishops of today.
The apostles alone were authorized by Christ to bind and loose, and so they interpret scripture.
Also interesting is that you claim others do or do not have the 'holy spirit'. According to ur text, only a believer could have the holy spirit- but those believers would also be able to do miracles, drink poison, etc.
If none of them has done these things, then don't even bother ascribing to them a holy spirit.
"Prove you are God, come down off the cross." It doesn't work that way.
Some martyrs were skinned alive, others walked out of fiery furnaces unharmed. Some bodies decompose, some are incorrupt. God does what God will do, and for his glory, not ours.
This is how they behave after erecting a statue? Is this what they do to the commandments? Thou shalt not make any graven images of any of the creation....
In the space above the outside of the entrance to the inner sanctuary...were carved cherubim and palm trees. Palm trees alternated with cherubim. Each cherub had two faces: the face of a man toward the palm tree on one side and the face of a lion toward the palm tree on the other. They were carved all around the whole temple. From the floor to the area above the entrance, cherubim and palm trees were carved on the wall of the outer sanctuary. -Ezekiel 41:17-20
Perhaps you should read the second commandment- in the bible you quoted:
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
But man is forever disobedient...and then you try to find excuses? Ha! You choose disobeying a direct command...because you found 'textual evidence' that some other people disobeyed?
At the height of stupidity is knowingly disobeying God.
Saint Luke made the first Icon? Who wrote the book of Acts? Well it is a debate if it is Paul, or the author of Luke. But one thing is sure in any debate- that Luke- the Apostle- did not write the 'Gospel of Luke'.
Check every single encyclopedia you can find, or any literature- they will all tell you that it is an anonymous book. Can you name the author of the 'gospel acc to luke' found in the bible, if you are truthful? Please present a reference or authority that agrees with you.
The Church agrees with me, for 2000 years it has taught this and I am not one to dispute it.
The Church created the Bible (or at least the New Testament), so the Church gets to interpret it. The Church says St Luke wrote it, so without evidence to the contrary, he did.
This is what GOD wants you to do with those idols or graven images
The graven images of their gods shall ye BURN WITH FIRE: thou shalt not desire the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest thou be snared therein: for it is an abomination to the LORD thy God... Deu 7:25
Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men's hands. They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not: They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not: They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat. They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them. ..Psalms 115:4-8
"You shall not make for yourselves an idol, nor any image of anything that is in the heavens above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5 you shall not bow yourself down to them, nor serve them, for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6 And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments..
It's a sign from Zeus. Destroying the blasphemous heathen idol.
MasterAdam100 1 month ago
God hates that statue.
IcarusPoe 1 month ago
Come on, it just painted plaster. They can make another. At least it didn't hit the nuns. A miracle. SS
sailingsolar 7 months ago
Scream louder. Perhaps the statue will put itself back together.
hootiepaladin 8 months ago
idol worship ha ha!What retards.
mrdalerod1 10 months ago
superstitious cretins 'oooooo god is angry lololololololololololol
MrStewart149 1 year ago
天主教的偶像必要被神擊倒
yizhiking 1 year ago
Trying to impress the ladies = fail
bsk935210 1 year ago
couldnt they find some young guys? there is a reason 80yr olds cant fly airplanes. what were u all thinking
singapore7773 1 year ago
HA HA HA HA HA... BUENISIMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SC88GT 1 year ago
Praise God! Hope the one in Poland goes down too! Just like the one in Ohio struck by lightning. MAybe people will get it eventually that making images angers God.
combatvetlawstudent 1 year ago
@combatvetlawstudent making images angers God? Oh so why did he tell us to make them then? You seem confused.
singapore7773 1 year ago
@singapore7773 you are so ridiculous! Go Away with your delusion maybe God will have mercy on you. remember he who teaches disobedience is least....
combatvetlawstudent 1 year ago
@combatvetlawstudent same at u
singapore7773 1 year ago
@singapore7773 told to make what image?
rayjt17 11 months ago
@rayjt17 exodus 25 God told man to make a image of an angel in gold. That is where the idea of making saint statues comes from
singapore7773 11 months ago
@singapore7773 sounds like the building of the temple to me, this was a direct instruction on a one time thing, the commandment bans man making images on his own, for saints he declares
rayjt17 11 months ago
@rayjt17 your opinion vs. the popes. the pope sees things different than you.
singapore7773 11 months ago
@singapore7773 fuck the pope! he is a guardian of child abusers, I hate that man
rayjt17 11 months ago
@rayjt17 Sounds like u spend a lot of time reading the bible, your mom must b proud
singapore7773 11 months ago
@singapore7773 I'm sure your mother is proud of you, being a servant of the worlds largest peadophile ring oh wait its called the Roman catholic Church, have no illusions God hates
rayjt17 11 months ago
@rayjt17 my mom was 10x more catholic than me. If a priest breaks the law put him h jail. pretty simple hey. But that is not what u or your kind do, just talk about it for the next 100yrs if possible. Not to mention we got tape of Planned Parenthood helping child sex/rape rings, no out cry at all. surprise surprise
singapore7773 11 months ago
@singapore7773 why don't you go further than that why dont you put the pope and trial, and my kind, what kind is that? the catholic church is rotten to the core, a good tree cannot bear bad fruit
rayjt17 11 months ago
@rayjt17 why dont i put the pope on trial? simple, i am not a Dist. Att. the question is why doesnt any distract attorney do it?... the church is not rotten to the core. if it were it could not produce good fruit like Mother Teresa, of St. John Henry Newman or countless other saints. i was debating a muslim scholar one time and i asked him, where is your mother teresa? he said we got nothing like her. The catholic church is not rotten, she is 2000yrs young
singapore7773 11 months ago
@singapore7773 well Roman teaching places the pope above the civil law, no its rotten, were talking about a a system that burned you alive for owning a Bible in the middle ages
rayjt17 11 months ago
@rayjt17 yes the pope is above civil law. there is after all only one pope in the world. Bibles in those days were hand written for a specific customer. like a church or university. So if u had one it was probably ill gotten or worse fake. The bible was taken very serious in those days
singapore7773 11 months ago
@singapore7773 thats bullshit
rayjt17 11 months ago
@rayjt17 you wish that was bs. Do u understand out of 265 popes about 70 have been killed.? The church is still here and the church is still young
singapore7773 11 months ago
@singapore7773 false church,
rayjt17 11 months ago
@rayjt17 false churches dont last 2000yrs. Jesus said "i will build MY church and it will not fail"
singapore7773 11 months ago
@singapore7773 strange that, so your saying the Church Jesus set up is at the same time the world's largest peadophile ring, who say they don;t last 2000 years, babylon the great is very old
rayjt17 11 months ago
@rayjt17 strange that King David in the bible is called a man after God's own heart! and he was a murderer?Who is the pope of babylon the great? just asking. Also speaking of King David, God said his throne would last forever. The pope is the successor to King David. Also Paul was a murderer. Also Jesus picked Judas. Peter denied he even knew Jesus. So no it is not strange that some priest are evil.
singapore7773 11 months ago
@singapore7773 they repeneted you idiot, Rome just tried to cover itheir sin, I'm done with you, you just love your false church and excuse its disghusting acts as it pleases you, and then drag the name of God into the whole sick filth that is Romanism, now be gone I have no time for fools
rayjt17 11 months ago
@rayjt17 im surprised u lasted as long as u did with your no game self. peace
singapore7773 11 months ago
@singapore7773 ...you are truly deluded.
bella50008 10 months ago
lol....wht hapanned to my Gods mother..what happenned to her??? you killed the mother of my God....you SOBS..
Sncc1 1 year ago
first lightning now this God must really hate u guys
TheGurufighter 1 year ago
@TheGurufighter my first thought was God was laughing ..... this is comedy central u gots to laugh at this
singapore7773 1 year ago
Mother Superior…quick get the Crazy Glue! Love the crazy old nun in the front row - and the old mafia guy who picks up the pieces...this vid is truly award-winning and priceless! Meanwhile the four carrying the statue are near death -- what were the organizers thinking? This is truly unscripted street theatrics at its best!
beaubluenyc 1 year ago
@beaubluenyc Lol --- I totally agree
IbrahimAlcolombi 1 year ago
@beaubluenyc Lol --- I totally agree , I love when the old carrier guy takes the decision to swap shoulder hehehe
IbrahimAlcolombi 1 year ago
@IbrahimAlcolombi - Priceless isn't it! TFF!! ;-{)
beaubluenyc 1 year ago
@IbrahimAlcolombi aint no 80yr old going to do a behind the back air jordan move with a 500lb statue!!!!!!
singapore7773 1 year ago
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Isaia 44:8-10
Non spaventatevi, non temete! Non te l'ho forse annunciato e dichiarato da tempo? Voi siete miei testimoni. C'è forse un Dio all'infuori di me? Non c'è altra Rocca; non ne conosco alcuna».
Quelli che fabbricano immagini scolpite sono tutti vanità; le loro cose piú preziose non giovano a nulla; i loro propri testimoni non vedono né comprendono, per cui saranno coperti di vergogna.
Chi fabbrica un dio o fonde un'immagine scolpita senza averne alcun vantaggio? CREDETE SOLO IN GESU!
upret66 1 year ago
Maybe the old man who dropped it works for Satan.
indicted 1 year ago
Jesus, Mary, Joseph: this is hilarious. I love that drunk nun in the first row. She knows that her prayers are now going unanswered because she didn't save that statue of plaster of paris and cheap paint. She must be punished for leaving that banana peal there in the church aisle. Cry and moan, sinners, but remember: THE LAST LAUGH IS ON YOU!
MarcusHolly 1 year ago
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
minniyer 1 year ago
Jesus Christ Will NEEEEEEEVER FALL!!!!!!!
brian9monty 1 year ago
@brian9monty What do you mean? He's next!
rumpwrestler 1 year ago
@rumpwrestler Satan himself has worked diligently for thousands of years to take down Jesus.
God created satan, Hell was created by God to punish satan and the angels. God himself the creator came down in the form of a man..JESUS! You really think Jesus is going to fall???? unbelievable nonsense!
brian9monty 1 year ago
@brian9monty Jesus didn't fall but he did melt down as you know. OHIO, that sinner state, hates god and jesus and understandably so. Lightning hits jesus and his tons of margarine melt down. A splendid sign that god couldn't give a rat's ass.
rumpwrestler 1 year ago
@rumpwrestler... melt? I have no idea what you are talking about
brian9monty 1 year ago
that thing is not god. it is only an idol. that is one example of idolatry. what an idiot way in believing God.
emkunheartsyou 1 year ago
This is my favorite vid ever!! There is something so fine and special about seeing some silly, overpainted Disney-like plaster of paris statue get splattered all over the church floor. Hell, I'd love to see the Virgin Mary Statue take a nose dive. I watch this vid over and over and never stop laughing. Isn't the screaming and hysteria in the church JUST TOO PERFECT?!?!? OK, Jesus, you're next in line for THE TAKE DOWN!
rumpwrestler 1 year ago
@rumpwrestler I compleatly agree so much! i have to just reply it thousands of times just at the point where it slips from the mans shoulder! ha
davoROC 1 year ago
@rumpwrestler Slight problem there, I agree with you up until your last phrase. You won't take Him down because Jesus is alive and NOT a statue! He will break you before you can break Him!
upret66 1 year ago
Does anyone have some glue?
shaniNhector 1 year ago
poor god he never did anything to u
CrisAndAirTwins 2 years ago
Calvinism is Christianity!
Iconoclasm is always entertaining.
cccathena 2 years ago
Why, god, Why?
punnet2 2 years ago
this is great !
darkillity 2 years ago
agreed! hahah
KCBLACKlung 2 years ago
That guy isn't even holding the handle. He's just letting it sit on his shoulder while he walks. Than when he spins around to try and grab it, the whole thing slides off.
hotflame2009 2 years ago
well, u shudn't have statues in church, anyway. Maybe God Almighty is trying to tell you something.
SmileLoveForgive 2 years ago
I know you don't understand. I said christianity is a false doctrine, just like islam or any other religion. Reading comprehension is definitely key in this.
And, yes the Christ IS the Saviour. Ha MAsyach is from the tribe of Yahudah, an Israelite acc. to the Holy scriptures. Unlike muhammad, The Messiah taught us that the Torah is NEVER done away with. Again, Matthew 5:17-19
milleziano 2 years ago
I have done more indepth researchy than google. LOL. Besides, I told you already, I'm an ISRAELITE, just like all negroes who descended from the slaves. Period.
Btw, did you know the term "christian"was a derogatory name given to those who FOLLOW Messiah? Did you know these modern day christians do NOT follow the Messiah, nor do they uphold the Torah?
They teach the laws are done away with, just like your beloved muhammad, that false prophet, who is not even of Israel.Read Matt.5:17-19
milleziano 2 years ago
only muslims n religious nuts r cowards. u don't know anything about GOD cause there is no knowledge in Islam nor in any other religion. muhammad is a damn fraud who took his concepts str8 from the Bible. I done told u already christianity, judaism, islam, atheism , basically all religions don't have a damn thing to do with the GOD of Israel or his people. u talking about hell proves u dumb muslims believe the same fairy tale doctrine as chiristians do. + there's plenty of errors in the quran
milleziano 2 years ago
Again, dumb muslims. Let me clarify this for you, so you can understand what I'm talking about. You muslims, christians, buddhists, so called self proclaimed fraudulent jewISH ppl, and all you religions are nothing but little off shoots of the Roman catholic church, the satanic order of the world. This INCLUDES the talmud, hadith and all other religions of the world. now do you understand?
I doubt you will. Just know that the real children of Israel are so called negroes.
Isaiah 14:1-2
milleziano 2 years ago
dumb muslim. You know that it's a LIE.
The Holy Land is and will always be Jerusalem. Not no damn mecca. That pedofile n false prophet muhammad made that up, just like switching the sabbath day from sat to fri., the day of atonemenmt ot ramadan. Read Psalms 96. The idols include those of the Ishaelites. Also read Jeremiah 2:27, this goes for both you muslims and you christians. The hajar aswad is nothing but a damn meteorite.
milleziano 2 years ago
LOL. your allah is nothing but a damn rock sittinfg in mecca. Besides,what about the dumb muslims that die over circling around that damn idol rock called kaaba? Or what aboput the great dajal droppin'bombs on you dumb muslims in the middle east? Where allah @? LMAO
You dumbass muslims and christians are both set up by the Roman catholic Church. The Elohim of Israel is the real GOD. And the real Israelites R the ppl you like to look down upon. The hell with your moongod & them christianity gods
milleziano 2 years ago
The problem is when an "image" ie. carving, statue etc is worshiped. this looks like worship to me and that is wrong! Worship God and God alone! Maranatha.
ljackso 2 years ago
There is a difference between worship (in Greek, latria) and veneration (dulia). Only God is worshiped, but the saints are venerated, especially the Theotokos.
No one venerates the statue itself - the marble or bronze. That is silly. It is honoring the person depicted. These people are in heaven with God, and have been made perfect. We honor their example and try to be like them. We ask for their prayers.
age234 2 years ago
So that verse: 'Why do you call me good? None is good except God. But to enter into life, you must keep the commandments'. Need I post the second commandment?
So I quoted u a verse from the NT, and you can look up the ten commandments. Now if you insist that you may bow down to statues and commemorate using idols and graven images, then surely you must point to some authority- a prophet of your religion, that said that it is okay to use statues.
Summadat 2 years ago
The 7th Ecumenical Council - Nicaea II. Look it up. They anathematized iconoclasm. An ecumenical council holds the authority of the entire Church, the ultimate authority in such matters.
And again, it's not about the statue. That is an aid for our weak, unfocused human minds. It is a means, not an end, for veneration (not worship). No one is worshiping the statue itself.
age234 2 years ago
Wait, did Jesus sanction that council to 'anathematize iconoclasm'? Or it may just be pretentious language for saying: 'who cares what God says- our whims are more important'.
Again, making statues are a violation of the commandments. If you have biblical text to prove otherwise, please do so.
Lastly: EVERY source I've researched all concluded that 'Luke' is an anonymous text. If you have evidence otherwise, please present it. Don't prove yourself an arrogant transgressor.
Summadat 2 years ago
It's no more based on whims than the New Testament canon, which was decided using the very same ecumenical council process and the very same standards of truthfulness. It's true because the entire Christian Church said it was true. You have to accept the Ecumenical Councils as authoritative if you accept the New Testament canon.
If not, Jesus is a liar and the Holy Spirit abandoned the Church to apostasy, because everyone agreed on these matters for centuries.
age234 2 years ago
As to the Gospel of Luke, yes, it is internally anonymous. That doesn't matter. The Silence Dogood letters don't say "I'm really Benjamin Franklin", but we know he wrote them. Church Tradition says he wrote it, and there is no good reason to think otherwise, except for the sake of being disagreeable.
age234 2 years ago
Forget inconsequential books. The Gospel of Luke is not an irrelevant book in your eyes. Fact: it has no known author. Fact: 'the gospel according to Luke' is not its original name- it was always an anonymous piece.
Fact: the book has always been anonymous. Just as John 7:53-8:11 is cut out of newer bibles, because they believe it as a false later addition.
Again, u keep pointing to 'tradition' or 'concensus' but you haven't dropped any names or references.
Summadat 2 years ago
I don't dispute these three facts. However, the book has always been known as the Gospel According to Luke. Our earliest manuscript, Papyrus Bodmer XIV from around AD 200, has this title.
The book is indeed internally anonymous, but the Church has always said Luke wrote it, and with no evidence to the contrary (nowhere does it say it's not Luke) there is no reason to doubt this. Except, again, for the sake of being disagreeable.
age234 2 years ago
Interesting point. But nowhere does it say that its Luke either. So how do they know? Please point to some english text or a translation that supports your opinion.
Because I've pointed several times to the second commandment. If you know of something that nullified the second commandment, please let us know. Thank u.
Summadat 2 years ago
Venerating images is not idol worship. Please read "Apologia Against Those Who Decry Holy Images" by St John of Damascus if you honestly want to study this subject. It explains how that fits with the 2nd Commandment and every other Bible verse you can think of.
You are arguing from silence. You're saying that, since it's anonymous, Luke didn't write it. That's a fallacious argument. The oldest copy of Luke we have, Papyrus Bodmer XV, is entitled "Kata Loukan" ("According to Luke").
age234 2 years ago
'St John of Damascus' never met Jesus. Rather, he was an 8th century figure who wrote according to his own interpretations. He used some OT verses and then interpreted them as saying: see, God does not want you to love the idol as you love Him, hence it is okay, so long as u don't love the idol more than u love him.- With no acknowledgment of the 2nd commandment.
Question: is the 2nd Commandment still valid?
Summadat 2 years ago
Again, nobody loves the images themselves.
An icon is like a photograph of the Mona Lisa. My appreciation for the photo is not for the photo itself (icon or statue), but for the original painting (the saint), and ultimately for the artist, Leonardo Da Vinci (or the creator, God). By honoring the image, I honor the creator.
The 2nd Commandment is valid insofar as idolatry is involved. Since dulia is not worship and icons are not idols, I don't understand.
age234 2 years ago
The 2nd Commandment cannot be construed to the Islamic extreme of no depictions of any kind. That is silly, but it seems to be what you're arguing for.
God became matter, so we can worship him through matter.
age234 2 years ago
So...the saints collectively decided that creating statues are not a violation of the 2nd commandment? And it is okay if mere men get together to override God's Laws? Pointing out that regular men- not prophets- agreeing not to practice God's Laws does not make you a righteous person. It makes you a blind follower at best, or maybe even an arrogant transgressor.
Saying that we need statues for weak minds makes an convincing argument legalizing prostitution for weak men.
Summadat 2 years ago
All Christians accepted the 7th Ecumenical Council. It seemed good to the Spirit and to them that this was right, and it was verified by all the clergy and the people by their acceptance.
There is far too much deep theology to get into here, but you can read the canons of the council for yourself. All the scriptural issues are discussed.
Google "canons of the seventh ecumenical council" for more information.
age234 2 years ago
Yes, point understood. But it generally seemed good to the Jews also that they disregard Jesus, and hence he was not taken for their messiah. Are they then correct in their concensus? The Lutherans just allowed gay clergymembers, are they also correct in this? You see, forming a concensus around something does not mean its lawful. So it does not matter which group of people wants to override God's Laws. Can you point to a biblical or prophetic clause legalizing statues?
Summadat 2 years ago
The Jews did not possess the Holy Spirit, so those were the opinions of men. The Lutherans divorced themselves from the Apostolic Church centuries ago. They are capable of error, therefore.
Consensus is law if the apostles are the ones who form the consensus. The apostles were the first bishops, and the heirs to the apostles are the bishops of today.
The apostles alone were authorized by Christ to bind and loose, and so they interpret scripture.
age234 2 years ago
Also interesting is that you claim others do or do not have the 'holy spirit'. According to ur text, only a believer could have the holy spirit- but those believers would also be able to do miracles, drink poison, etc.
If none of them has done these things, then don't even bother ascribing to them a holy spirit.
Summadat 2 years ago
"Prove you are God, come down off the cross." It doesn't work that way.
Some martyrs were skinned alive, others walked out of fiery furnaces unharmed. Some bodies decompose, some are incorrupt. God does what God will do, and for his glory, not ours.
age234 2 years ago
This is how they behave after erecting a statue? Is this what they do to the commandments? Thou shalt not make any graven images of any of the creation....
And they weep when God gives them a little sign?
Summadat 2 years ago
God is against images?
In the space above the outside of the entrance to the inner sanctuary...were carved cherubim and palm trees. Palm trees alternated with cherubim. Each cherub had two faces: the face of a man toward the palm tree on one side and the face of a lion toward the palm tree on the other. They were carved all around the whole temple. From the floor to the area above the entrance, cherubim and palm trees were carved on the wall of the outer sanctuary. -Ezekiel 41:17-20
age234 2 years ago
Perhaps you should read the second commandment- in the bible you quoted:
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
But man is forever disobedient...and then you try to find excuses? Ha! You choose disobeying a direct command...because you found 'textual evidence' that some other people disobeyed?
At the height of stupidity is knowingly disobeying God.
Summadat 2 years ago
Saint Luke made the first icon, so I guess he was a heretic? The one who wrote the Book of Acts? And the Gospel of Luke?
The Second Council of Nicaea recognized the critical nature of images. To reject images is to reject matter. Christ redeemed matter.
I will take the interpretation of the successors to the Apostles, guided by the Holy Spirit, over one man's private interpretation any day.
age234 2 years ago
Saint Luke made the first Icon? Who wrote the book of Acts? Well it is a debate if it is Paul, or the author of Luke. But one thing is sure in any debate- that Luke- the Apostle- did not write the 'Gospel of Luke'.
Check every single encyclopedia you can find, or any literature- they will all tell you that it is an anonymous book. Can you name the author of the 'gospel acc to luke' found in the bible, if you are truthful? Please present a reference or authority that agrees with you.
Summadat 2 years ago
The Church agrees with me, for 2000 years it has taught this and I am not one to dispute it.
The Church created the Bible (or at least the New Testament), so the Church gets to interpret it. The Church says St Luke wrote it, so without evidence to the contrary, he did.
age234 2 years ago
Yes, its a stone idol,
and it breaks.
02javis 2 years ago
heheheh i come regularly to watch it...I simply love it
Allahu akbar!!!
IbrahimAlcolombi 2 years ago
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ده بلاستيك
هههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههههه
papape111 2 years ago
hahahahahahaha great!
LaSoledadPerpetua 2 years ago
This is what GOD wants you to do with those idols or graven images
The graven images of their gods shall ye BURN WITH FIRE: thou shalt not desire the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest thou be snared therein: for it is an abomination to the LORD thy God... Deu 7:25
biblion 2 years ago
Shut the fuck up
sanderz666 2 years ago
But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the manMatthew 15:18
biblion 2 years ago
Fuck your arrogance and you fairy stories. They are spoken from your anus and irritate the sane man. Sanders 12:17
sanderz666 2 years ago
Pro 18:7 A fool's mouth is his destruction, and his lips are the snare of his soul.
biblion 2 years ago
ass hole
LaSoledadPerpetua 2 years ago
Pro 15:28 The heart of the righteous studieth to answer: but the mouth of the wicked poureth out evil things.
biblion 2 years ago
Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men's hands. They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not: They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not: They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat. They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them. ..Psalms 115:4-8
biblion 2 years ago
"You shall not make for yourselves an idol, nor any image of anything that is in the heavens above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5 you shall not bow yourself down to them, nor serve them, for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6 And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments..
ghener55 2 years ago
FOR SALE
Saint statue used once
couple of scratches and some niks here and there.
call
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02javis 2 years ago
ده طلع فالصوو من النوع الرخيص ........ha ha ha ow
Bubyan05am 2 years ago
iit went to heaven
shop heaven.
02javis 2 years ago
adio mio!
hj351 2 years ago
JAJAAJJA... que bueno!!! XD
iamkira666 3 years ago
idolatry at its best!
30secondstolive 3 years ago
hahahahahahahahaaha that was awesome!
tron565 3 years ago
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hafedhdeyah1984 3 years ago
...was it funny? -.-"
GnR87Chris 3 years ago
معلش معلش انكسر الشر ههههههههههههه
spammerzbox 3 years ago
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
alzaimn1 3 years ago
أسم لله عليه هاتولو الأسعاف
khaledkhaled92 3 years ago
huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhu
zmw105 3 years ago
That project was doomed from the get-go ;-P So glad I wasnt there (well I guess I wouldnt be) I woulda laughed...
withoutmercyuk 3 years ago
Whoops!
Gilgamesh73 3 years ago
Headshot!!!
alexome12 3 years ago
what do cats and bicycles have in common?
they both climb trees except the bicycle...
warwickharris 3 years ago
That was funny "Thou shalt not worship false gods."
tanyasbigbrowneyes 3 years ago 2
lol. just a ceremony they acted like they killed god.
mungcray 3 years ago
HAAAA!
lonwitness 3 years ago
i love how "slick" there plays it off like he had nooothing to do with it.
REVHATCHELL 3 years ago
Oh no problem here move along. Ha!
lonwitness 3 years ago