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  • Im i bareback rider and this is the kinda stuff that makes you wonder if these animal rights people even know where the milk they get at the store comes from. they are so stupid it makes me sick. they are the ones who made the economy in the hole were in now. plz get a life

  • @acewt32 Supermarket milk does not come from rodeo bucking horses, especially geldings. 

  • I've watched a lot of your videos and I have to say, I wish I had the balls to stand up to sick people like this. I've got a lot of respect for you. This stuff is hard to watch, but it needs to be addressed by the people!!

  • @seanbyrne02 Thanks for your post. Yes, it is the people's responsibility to demand changes in laws in order to get these animals protected against cruelty.

  • rodeo makes me sick. the horse doesnt want to just buck you off, the horse is super scared of y'all. so go do western or english riding. be safe, you and the horse.

  • HAHAHA your ignorance surprises me... You know im a memeber of high school rodeo, been to alot of amatuer rodeos too. You go on and on, building on a negative stereotype that "Country people are all toothless and dumb", well sir I'll say this. Your only buildiing on the stereotype of an "educated idiot". As in you think you know what your talking about, but lack the common sense of normal human beings. At least I can conceed when someone makes a valid point, unlike u.

  • @sooner5140 ""You go on and on, building on a negative stereotype that "Country people are all toothless and dumb", "" Where did you read or hear that?

  • @sooner5140 he doesn't need to say those things, by you opening your mouth you proved it enough.

  • thats good the rider had to go to the Hospical! by bull got black out.

  • I'd love to take a shocking device to every one of those people who used them on the animals. Such mentality. To be so cruel to an animal...heartless.  What is the sense to all this?

  • @TruthSeeker1054 i agree :( its very cruel and for what reason? its pointless.

  • he is not using a hotshot hes pulling the flankstrap

  • @kevinbnsn45 Since when is a flankstrap in a hand-held little black box and used at the face/neck of an bucking animal?

  • How can anybody say that most of these horses are junk and would be shot? Sad.

  • You have got to be freakin joking me!! You really need to get a life or a girlfriend or something, nothing in rodeos is cruel, the only dumbing thing that goes on is the stupid girls who beat there horses on the home strech, how come you dont pound them huh? at least these horses are used for something instead of just sitting around, most of these horses are just junk put together and in any other situation would be shoot. i agree with them, its our way of life, leave it alone!

  • @Cowgirlupreiner said ""most of these horses are just junk put together and in any other situation would be shoot.""

    Thank you for proving what we've been saying all along about what rodeo people think about the animals they abuse.

  • its our way of life how bout u just leave it be. the animal is shocked so that it will leave the chute and not injure the cowboy. thats why it was shocked in the neck and not the ass. and the cowboys who own these horses take pride in them and there ability to buck. you guys are a bunch of fucking liberal bastards.

  • its almost as if the men doing the shocking know they are doing wrong because they immediately exit the chute area or they scramble to get the shocker put in their pockets. That is horrible and disgusting.

  • Soem of the rodeo sports, like goat tying, I don't like. But, this is worse then throwing a baby goat to the ground.

  • do they shock horses in calgary stampede?

  • raptorman772: We have not been there, so we can't say.

  • oh ok. r u going 2 come 2 calgary?

  • raptorman772: We're looking to work it into our schedule. Lots of animals died up there this year.

  • really? oh tat suxs. well tell me when ur coming here.

  • this kinda cruel shit is actually the least of our problems you dipshits. yes these posers in cowboy hats think they're cool or part of some kind of macho culture. it is what it is. most important thing is getting this world to stop imploding and what happens in a rodeo ain't worth shit.

  • by2004: We are an animal protection organization. If you don't care about animal issues, our videos are the wrong ones to watch.

  • Your Right, this is cruel,But your wrong where you think it's the least of our problems, For alot of people,who actually care, are trying to stop this. It's not the most important problem for you, But maybe thats cause you don't care.

  • I am getting sick of you thinking that all rodeo people are bad. You think that your opinion isd the only right one and evveryone who is against you is a rodeo person. The flank strap does not make them buck when it is tightened, it makes them kick higher and if it really is as tight as you make it seem, the animals wouldn't move.

    I do not support calf roping, but I find breakaway to be a lot better.

  • if you think we are doing something wrong come to a rodeo and do something about it

  • joenash3406: Your post - "if you think we are doing something wrong come to a rodeo and do something about it."

    We did. You're looking at it.

  • are you blind? i wish a horse would kick youre stinking head off!

  • good on you shark, if heaps less people attend these brutal sports, eventually they wont make enough money to keep holding rodeos. there is no excuse for cruellty, and ammusement is the most disgusting and pitiful excuse of them all.

  • omg... i totally agree with you! that shit is SO stupid! is the shocking legally? and why do they have like long ropes tied to some of the horses before they let go? poor animals ...

  • xDjickox: No, it wasn't legal to shock them, but the Illinois Department of Agriculture won't do its job, which is to enforce the law. I think the rope you mention is actually a buck strap tied around their flank. It is tightened as they leave the chute, which makes them buck, cause they hate that feeling.

  • @SHARKonlineorg you need to read more on the flank strap...there is pressure from the strap and when they buck and kick the kicking out loosens thestrap so that is why they keep bucking...the flank strap is just like a belt someone wears....the do not tighten it as the horse leaves or else that means it would come lose as the horses buck....I do not think the horses should be shocked but I am tired of all the BS you are say bc it is just a bunch of BS

  • Yes, it's tightened. That's why they hold onto it as the horse leaves the chute.

  • @SHARKonlineorg You have got to be freakin joking me!! You really need to get a life or a girlfriend or something, nothing in rodeos is cruel, the only dumbing thing that goes on is the stupid girls who beat there horses on the home strech, how come you dont pound them huh? at least these horses are used for something instead of just sitting around, most of these horses are just junk put together and in any other situation would be shoot. i agree with them, its our way of life, leave it alone!

  • why the FUCK were those prods ever invented?

  • Animals are not teddybears! You are a moron!

  • Jeremy: No they are not. Teddybears are toys, and can't feel pain and fear, and they don't suffer or die when treated badly. Rodeo animals do feel pain and fear, and are maimed and killed in rodeos. Tell you what -- how about you start busting teddy bears instead?

  • get a life you fucking tree huggers

  • bman1712: Yes indeed, yours is the attitude of a rodeo person. You'll be pleased to know that we have great lives, busting rodeos and other animal abusers.

  • ok so riding horses like i do is wrong?? i ride western yes WESTERN HAHAHAH WAT ARE U GOING TO DO ABOUT IT!! do u ride?? do u even no wat happens after the rodeos or what ever you dont. those horses have owners that car e4 them and the horses are used to itsmart 1. its a sport to them they like to buck!! so when i kick the horse on the side to go faster its mean. wel ur damn mean to the people that ride horses and love them.

  • Okay, I ride western too, and care ALOT about my horse.Just because you 'ride western' doesn't mean your the smartest person to know what happens at rodeos.Define an owner who puts their horse in a rodeo and say they care.I would NEVER Put my horse in a rodeo,and say that I still care about her cause I'd never.Some horses buck.Okay, but you forgot that they have a strap tightend around their kidneys.

    how is he mean to riders?SHARK isn't being mean to me,and i still ride my horse and love her.

  • your the kinda rider i wouldent mind going for a good trail ride with

  • rideing western isnt in itself wrong but alot of the techniques used to train/encurage the horses and cattle to do what you want are

  • This is soooo fuck't up :(((((

    I fucking hope those people who alloud this and go to shows will try this on thier own bodies :(((( !!!

  • wow, i have been rodeoing for a very long time and all i have ever seen or heard of are the long cattle prods. I'm not saying that its right that they are used but sometimes it is neccisary when moving cattle and such... but if you have to use it to make a rough stock animal buck or come out their are plenty of other horses you could buy that would gladly buck........ also the rodeo people on here of course will come across as the aggressor because you are bashing them

  • i have been rodeoing for 7 years

    and i think it is wrong when they do it to live stock

    omg

    tht is sooo wrong

    it makes me wanna cry

    i mean how can thy do that horses are such beautiful animals

    ahhh way dissapointing!

  • i hate rodeos. i love u shark . i might get a rodeo horse(to save).

  • what the FUCK?? Are you saying that these people are shocking horses as they come out of the chute?? You stupid pieces of shit!!!!

    Were is the cattle prod??? These is nothing in these guys hands. OMG-Are you so fucking stupid and out of touch with reality that you have to make shit up?

    For any of you who do not know-a cattle prod is about 3-3 1/2 feet long. Pretty hard to fucking hide that. Or are we supposed to believe you that they have developed tiny little cattle prods just for rodeo?

  • BrownEyedCowgirls: It's always sad to watch people who are so ignorant spout off like they know something. You go ahead and Google the Hot-Shot Power Mite, and see what you find. Then get back to us. You won't, I predict, because you can't handle being wrong, even though you are likely wrong pretty much all the time cause you just go off about things that you know nothing about.

  • you try to be such an online bully, yes i see somthing in there hand, did it kill the animal? i dont think so. now im not saying its right that they do this, but thats the bad part of their life your showing, how about posting a video of their life outside of rodeo arenas, its a life some people would love to have shelter, food, baths, water, health care

    now go ahead and try to bash me, it wont bother me none. your just someone who probably got beat up at school and wants to show muscle online

  • thrillinandkillin: Your complaint is illogical. SHARK's mission is to expose animal abuse. We're investigators, not babysitters. Cops who bring a drunk driver to court aren't obliged to tell the judge what a good guy the offender is when he isn't drunk. Our job is to expose abuse, not to butter up the abusers.

  • Also the people smacking the horse, it doesn't even hurt the horse that bad, you just make it seem like the horse is in dier pain. You are a sham, hot shots don't even hurt cows or horses, because I accidentally shocked my horse once, and she didn't do ANYTHING.

  • BaylieAnne: "It doesn't hurt the horse that bad?" Just how bad does it have to hurt before it is abuse?

    Do the animals a big, big favor by staying away from them.

  • And you know he actually pressed the button how? .... exactly you can't prove he presse the button, he may have just been prodding it.

  • BaylieAnne: Denial is the foundation of the rodeo industry. Disgusting.

  • i agree, i think high school rodeo is sick and disgusting!

  • ahahaha...are you really that ignorant? thats sad

  • BaylieAnne:Wow, are you ever smart! What's the next lame excuse, batteries?

  • SHARK: I do totally agree with you. This issue needs to be taken care of immediatly. Please send this to George Bush. He stopped horse slaughter. Make a petition and i will sign. Bt this is serious and is cruel. We as human beings need to take a stand. The people in this video are stupid and need to be in jail. You can totally see all of the prods in this video. I am on your side all the way. We need to take a stand and be strong all the way.

  • well... i see the shocker!!!!

    BAD people!

  • the guy in the green shirt is wearing a wrist brace, and at the end of the video you say the boy is a "Juvenile" but the announcer said he is a 18 year old senior, and watch it closer the bull steps on him....

  • Sorry. But I don't see one cattle prod in the whole video. and i watched it 3 times to see. and there was none.

  • nicole: The prods are hard to see, as they are just a little bigger than a cell phone. We will soon be remaking this video, now that we can enlarge pictures, and they will be much easier to see.

  • I really am not on your side of the whole thing. I did high school rodeo and i know right in the rule book that it says they can't be used but I know some people still will ingnore it. In my region non of this is used and that needs to be pointed out as not everyone uses these like in the 1 video. And some of the other videos aren;t entirely trueful themselves. Such as the goats.

  • nicole: The response wasn't based on which side you are on. I merely acknowledge that the prod is hard to see in the video, but it is there in every instance. We will soon replace this video with enlarged clips that will better show it.

  • Anyone who is pro-rodeo or even just thinks that taking something out on an ENTIRE group of people is a waste of time. Don't comment, it only fuels their fire and makes them feel more 'rightous'. STEVE isn't going to change his mind, he honestly thinks all bucking horses were abused. Its really quite sad, they are some of the best horses...i am sure i am going to get called an animal abuser now, go ahead

  • lilblue: What SHARK has exposed over and over for years and years is that rodeo animals are treated badly, and that supposed rodeo "humane rules" are a sham. That's what the video shows.

    Rodeo reaction varies, from denials that the abuse is abuse, to protests that we are lumping everyone into the same batch. If you are part of the industry, you are part of the abuse. I certainly don't hear anyone in the industry forcefully and openly demanding change.

  • I am against Riding a bucking horse. But I am a bull Rider and we don't shock the bulls.

  • All right, I will admit this is blatant abuse and charges should be filed.

  • no item should have ever been invented for shocking animals in this cruel way. no horse should have to waste his life as a bucking horse. I feel for these animals.

  • the Bulls and Horse have super "BUCKING" Blood lines in them Breed to buck. is really sweet a friend bought a bucker and shes trained him for jumping i thought he wouldnt go good but he flew over them with a lot of training,

  • oakstorm: So much for the nonsense about bucking horses being rank.

  • What i dont know what you mean?

  • oakstorm: The horse obviously is NOT rank.

  • TheOneInTheSky: The device used was never intended for this purpose. The rodeo and their supporters have simply perverted it for their enjoyment.

  • I am a cowboy myuself. I dont abuse any Animals. We aint rednecks. We are americans. RODEO RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

  • Cayceluv: Interesting post. The video shows abuse in rodeos.

  • wow this stuff is just bullshit. i have ridden rodeo all my life. its more of a sport than you do i can guarantee that. i am a rodeo person, a 16 year old girl you freak! i am not cruel, threatening, or hardly ever obscene and NEVER have i been insecure. you are all pure idiots. maybe you should get some lives?!

  • CharlieCharlesChuck: Your post says you're 16. Your Profile says your 30. Sounds like a credibility gap to me.

  • ok not all rodeos shock the animals. up north i have never seen somebody shock a horse

  • kelliefan: We're not certain what you mean by "up north." We certainly have caught plenty of shocking in the northern US.

  • washington, idaho,oregon ect

  • kelliefan: The Pendleton Round-Up (Oregon) and the Ellensburg Rodeo (Washington) both include steer busting, and are therefore among the most brutal in the country.

    We caught Ike Sankey and his bunch shocking horses in Pendleton, and only saw the steer busting in Ellensburg.

  • There's no such thing as rodeo propaganda. They keep to themselves. If you're "morally bothered" by this, stay the hell away. Stop being a whiny bitch. When will the liberal stop complaining about everything. There's more to life than crying to get your way.

  • kylediduck: We're not whining -- we're exposing.

    I promise that when y'all stop abusing animals, we'll all stay the hell away. How's that for a deal? Until then, you'll be seeing a lot of us.

  • dumbasses. its a flankstrap. fucking idiots. roedomom is right

  • live2rodeo21: You don't even know your own history, cause you're so busy with rodeo propaganda. It was originally called a buck strap, just live calf roping used to be called calf roping, not "tie down roping." Y'all have been changing terms for years cause you're trying to look respectable, but you aren't, never have been, and never will be respectable, or a real sport.

  • so ur saying rodeo isnt a sport?? go to a rodeo and say that and get ur ass kicked city slicker. we are respectable. and calf roping and tie down roping are 2 different events u fag.

  • live2rodeo21: Once again, we see the profile of the rodeo person -- cruel, threatening, obscene and insecure. In a way we feel sorry for you.

  • I find that shocking a horse or bull for sport is degrading the human race to the level of an insect. I have the greatest of love for both of these animals and I find no fault in their geanology that demands such atrocious treatment.

  • They are not shocking the horse. It is called a flankstrap. Get your facts straight!

    Most rodeo stock is taken care of better then household pets.

  • rodeomom: Can you be any more ignorant. There is no question a prod was repeatedly used. A Dept. of Agriculture investigation confirmed the obvious. You live in total denial. I bet you dance with John Wayne every night in your dreams, don't you? Wake up, honey! He wasn't a cowboy any more than y'all are.

  • Our bucking stock is treated like rockstars. Horses buck because they want to. Seriously they are much bigger than us if they didn't want to buck they damn well wouldn't.

  • UTcowgirl08: If the horses wanted to buck, you wouldn't have to use the buck strap, the spurs, the electric shock and the stabbing. Get real.

  • how dare u bad mouth john wayne. and say we're not cowboys/cowgirls. u are the ignorant ones.

  • live2rodeo21: JW wasn't a real cowboy, and neither are you.

  • Thank you!! That is so true!! Get rid of those redneck losers!!

  • yeah and what about all the people that get killed every day from war......go make a oraganisation to save them too.

  • steerridergal: SHARK is an animal protection organization, so if you don't mind, we'll work on animal protection.

  • and if nothing ealse send a copy to the prca and they will deal with these high schoolers.

  • tsmith: Son, you don't know what you're talking about. SHARK has reported violations to the PRCA, not to mention that a number of them are obviously up on YouTube. The same people continue to commit the same violations. The PRCA does not enforce their rules, and they certainly have no authority to imprison anyone.

  • Yes they do because they can press charges

  • tsmith: The PRCA has absolutely no police powers. While it could level a fine against a member, there's no indication that this happens.

  • They can press charges that is what I am getting at

  • tsmith: You can lead a horse to water...

  • if elctrods are used you report it to the prca and a fine will be enforced along with imprisonment

  • everyone that talks shit about rodeo.. you know nothing. so keep your mouth shut. these bucking animals are taken care of sooo good.

  • kr3wskater99: Rodeo people live in denial, even in the face of videotaped documentation. It really rather amazing, like still claiming the earth is flat.

  • these rodeo animals are athletes like the people that get on them.. the cattle prod is to get animals moving where the people want them. Tell me another way to move a 1000 to 2000 pound animal around, it doesnt hurt them, it gets them responsive

  • kr3wskater99: More rodeo propaganda bullshit. The animals ave victims, not athletes, and the humans are just cowardly animal abusers. Oh yah, the prod gets 'em moving. 5,000 volts will get pretty much anyone moving. But why do you have to "get them moving" if they are supposedly "born to buck?' Of course, that's just more rodeo bullshit propaganda.

  • but the point is that do you seriously think an animal being prodded with an electrical thing will seriously be happy? my idea of cruelty is purposly making the animal unhappy &+ do thoes horses look happy to you? tbh, they look fucking scared. 'just to get them going' &+ how do they get them going? by frigtening them! hurting them! how about i stick a fucking electrick shot through you to get you going next time you dont wana get out of bed?

  • Do yer have proof? Of course not. Just browse through SHARK's vids. Until then, SHUT THE HELL UP.

  • I have a huge issue with shocking horses in the face...when you see the horses that just stop leaving the chute, obviously they are trying to avoid bucking this losers off, its horrible.

  • i agree with cowgirlstar26 if your not in rodeo you dont know what your talking about, they dont abuse the animals.

    The're perfectly, some are more well maintained than some peoples horses, and if you dont know what your talking about then dont say anything about it.

  • Surrah: Go ahead and deny the video documentation. It helps people to realize what y'all are about.

  • i agree with you surrah but electrods are wrong and when ppl see them being used report it and if you dont welll dont say shit rodeo is tradition and the toughest sport around but these animales are probably better off than you dog,cat fish whatever you have shark

  • tsmith242007: Any animal is better off than the ones in the rodeo.

  • What's the point of reporting? PRCA ain't gonna do a thing silly. They r corrupted. Check out SHARK's latests vids. n if u call it a tradition, then how can u call it a sport?

  • 3:00 you can hear the poor thing yip oh my god!

  • That wasn't a horse, it sounded more like a dog. Or a little kid.

  • stupid rodeo people they just need to go f*** themselves

  • for anyone on here who's never competed in rodeos, shut up, SOME rodeos abuse their animals, but buckin horses and bulls are worth hella lot of money and they are not gonna risk injuring an animal.

  • cowgirlstar26: That simply is not true. Rodeo animals are hurt all the time. That's why the rodeo industry doesn't release animal injuries and deaths, and rodeo announcers often outright lie about the fate of injured animals.

  • I have seen just as many animals get hurt during jumping, barrel racing, and even trail riding, I would rather see horses used in rodeos than in a slaughter house, most of the horses that are used in rodeos are there for a reason , and ill argue this till im blue in the face, some horses DO like to buck, most don't ill give ya that. I work with tons of stock companies so I see it all the time.

  • cowgirlstar26: You don't like slaughterhouses, but you are involved in an industry that supplies the horse slaughter industry. Just ask Ike Sankey, who admits that he raises horses, and those that don't buck the way he wants can be sold to slaughter. On top of that Sankey shocks his horses.

  • yeah, so do breeders that breed crappy horses. they don't intensionally do it but they still breed horses for slaughter. PPL need to stop breeding horses that have no use or future. it's not the horses fault, its the breeders. accidental foals are no excuse either. it's pathetic. horses are being bred that shouldn't. that's just how is

  • .... If so much abuse goes on at rodeos, why not ban rodeos?

  • Craze4Horsez: Great question. It will likely come to that if rodeo people don't curb their careless brutality. Laws are being passed in various places, sponsors are starting to drop. But these folks are so arrogant and insensitive that they'll likely have to lose it all before they figure anything out. Then they'll sing some sorry song about how they were misunderstood and mistreated.

  • peanutshell17 i agree i was at the nhsfr for bull riding and i never saw any shock prods.

  • masterbullrider: it doesn't matter if you saw the prods or not, does it? It's right here on the video. If you were there, you know what the places looks like and what it sounded like, so you know the evidence is real.

  • You know what really is funny, the fact that ppl try to justify this CRAP. Oh it really doesnt hurt the horse, Blah Blah freakin Blah. I guess anything go's for freakin entertainment and for a pathetic Trophy.

  • Barbaric...you can definetaly see the shockers too barraelracer17...get glasses.

  • The biggest problem of animal abuse is people knowing and seeing it happening right in front of them, but they choose to ignore it or laugh it off. Sounds to me like a lot of you might break rules yourselves, just to get a better performance out of your animals. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Taking the side of the abusers is almost as bad as being the abuser!

  • Hotshots are small and are easy to hide. The "hotshot" that you are referring to is a cattle prod and is a lot longer than a hotshot. Prods are either yellow with green tips near the prongs or are white with blue/green/red handles. There is no hiding those. So... they used hotshots barrelracer. Maybe you have never held/used one.

  • those were def. hotshots. Not to say in all of the clips but most were pretty obvious. I use them on livestock, I know what they are and when the horse is not moving and someone pulls out something from his pocket then the horse starts bucking. hmmm... what did he use? To say that they did not use a hotshot means you are either blind, or trying to be protective because you know it is not allowed.

  • First of all a hotshot does not hurt an animal at all, its more like a little tingle. It is alot less painful than a bee sting, stick it to your hand and you will see that it doesnt hurt. And I also did not see a hotshot anywhere in your video.

  • First, a hotshot does hurt, and is designed to do so. Otherwise what would be the point? Because it hurts and should only be used when needed in a legitimate livestock operation. It is banned from rodeos, but nevertheless shows up all the time. As for not seeing one, it is the Power-Mite, which is easily concealed. It certainly is there, many times.

  • The flank is made of fleece or cotton, and doesn't have any sharp objects that irritate the horse, as much as you would like to think. It is hung on the far side of the horse, nearest the gate. Next, the stick is lowered on the other side of the horse, under his belly, and the curved part hooks the ring on the flank, enabling the flank to be put on the horse. So all in all, poor video. It shows NOTHING. Get some real evidence next time, buddy.

  • Trying to be kind, but what can be said but, MORON!

  • its funny that there are actually people that believe there are sharp objects on the flank that cut the horse. It DOES NOT cut them it just irritates them which makes them back. I agree with you barrelracer17, i didn't see anything and I was at this rodeo. There were AG officials everywhere making sure the livestock was getting treated humanely

  • We're completely used to this kind of denial from the rodeo crowd. Serial lying is simply what they do. Anyone interested can find articles exposing the cruel and illegal use of the electric prod at IllinoisCorruption dot com.

  • A man on the ground carried a longer stick, with a hooked end. This is not a hotshot. A hotshot is usually around 4-5 feet long, with a bulky handle, a white body, and 2 large prongs at the end. The "stick" I described doesn't meet the description of a hotshot. Plus, that "stick" [not entirely sure on terms as I am a roper, not a roughstock rider] is used to put the flank on the horse. [more.]

  • The Hot-Shot Powermite fits in a person's hand. Good God, you have the Internet, look it up. Then you ignorance can at least be manifested some other way.

  • The Hot-Shot Powermite fits in a person's hand. Good God, you have the Internet, look it up. Then your ignorance can at least be displayed some other way.

  • So, here's a funny thing. I wasted 8 minutes trying to find a hotshot IN THIS VIDEO, and I found NONE. Not once did I see a hotshot, not once!! Not only are you guys uninformed, but you are ignorant. I'm trying to figure out where you guys are getting your material. The only thing I found, was near the end. [more]

  • It's a never ending source of disgust for us to have to deal with those in rodeo who are so utterly clueless about what even goes on. You don't even know what a prod looks like.

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