the bit lecter gets will grahams phone number and address is truely shocking and disturbing. How being in a confined cell he could still reach out and connect to wills life
Brian Cox is more believable as an actual psychopath & serial Killer, this character could be real, although I think Hopkins did a great job too, they're better than eachother in their own ways.
Silly 80's movie, seen the preview? And they sound to much to be lacking emotion and depth, his scene where he says 'Just you and me now sport." then cusses, I usually like older movies hehe but really? Really?
@hullboy116 I think that's what makes him better. With Hopkins you could tell he was insane and could easily pick him out of a crowd, but this version shows how it would have been hard to catch him because he appeared so normal.
This incarnation of Lecter does not make me feel as though he is borrowing into the depths of the psyche with just his gaze. He seems like he's guessing whereas the confidence in Hopkins voice makes it seem like he knows exactly what he's doing and to what end. I feel no brooding or menace from Cox, I don't feel his observations are natural and the very way he moves is contrary to the image of Lecter's poise and stature being one akin to that of a dancer.
One good advantage here is that Brian uses his own British accent. Mind you, Anthony was good too, but there's just something about this performance that suits the style.
Brian's behavior is so distinctively unpleasant, in a way that I think most viewers could intuitively connect with. Throughout his performances you can detect subtle facial ticks at random intervals while speaking with a less contrived attitude as opposed to Anthony's exquisite appeal. The situation portrayed in this scene provided authentic discourse between conflicting empathy and astute insanity to such a degree that I think realistically separates it from the later films.
@M8DMAN Also, another reason is that it was Will who caught Lecter :). I so look forward to the prequel :). Oh, they showed it in the excellent Red Dragon, but never mind :).
@M8DMAN lol i think of lecter as a very classy and intelligent man but when i think of somone like him getting all pissed of and sulky it makes me laugh :)
@leoamar4385896 No, the point is that these 2 men do KNOW each other so well. Not to mention, both of these men are MUCH sharper and smarter than the average person so they process information much faster.
@drlee2 disagree. the only way speak so fast with witty replies is if they're reading from a script or the conversation is rehearsed. When Anthony Hopkins plays Dr. Lecter his conversation while in his cell is slower, more natural with dramatic pauses- and he still seems like a MUCH smarter Dr. Lecter than Brian Cox does.
@leoamar4385896 You need to read up on the serial killer Cox used for the basis of this character. You might understand why Cox played "Lecktor" this way. Also, Lecktor's scenes are very short in this film. He is just a passing character. Had more emphasis been placed on the character, you may have a different opinion. Myself, i like this version.
They're rushing the lines too much. With Hopkins, every line felt deliberate, like he was playing a game of chess with Graham or with Starling. You got time to stew and just realize how crazy Hannibal really is. I don't get that feeling from Brian Cox, as good of an actor as he is.
I love Anthony Hopkins's Lecter, but I think that Brian Cox's "Lecktor" is a great companion to Gaspard Ulliel's Lecter--It's believable that Cox and Ulliel are the same man.
Brian Cox is a legend. Loved him in Troy as Aggamemnon and he was great in first two Bourne films as Abbott Ward. He adds a touch of class to even lame films!!
@AllisterCooper2008 No I love them, they rank in my top ten of all film franchises!! Cox is great in the first two films. I see now how my comment could lead people to believe I dont like them films. I was refering to other films that are lame apart from Cox's character.
@wastedproperty i respect your point, but i will always think Brian Cox was so much better than Hopkins simply because he was more believable as this sophisticated Psychopath, Hopkins was creepy no doubt but i always thought to myself his performance was Definitely a Movie performance if you know what i mean and not to be taking seriously, its like i couldn't imagine Dahmer or Bundy acting that way.
@wastedproperty so you don not think he had an advantage of having a creepy dungeon like cell and organ music in the background, you couldn't at least consider my point? Yes you do base it on his performance of course you do but his setting played a big part for the audience.
Anthony Hopkins had a huge advantage playing Lecktor with his creepy dungeon like cell and constant organ music in the background to scare everybody before he has even opened his mouth, whereas all Brian Cox has was a plain white cell. Can you actually imagine Hopkins in that white cell? he would look so out of place and ineffective. Which is why Brian Cox is better
@baroh2413 the novel was fantastically conceptualized, and portrayed. You need to truly understand Thomas Harris' mindset to fully grasp the complexity within the novel. Easily better than either movie made after it
@Donsknotts More dynamic? I hope that his other appearances in the film were better then this one it seems so bland and blank neither of them seem to show much underlying emotion.
@baroh2413 Graham also seems to have a lack of emotional reaction to the situation as well. It seems like an interesting movie for it's time but I think that Red Dragon and Anthony Hopkins were better.
@eondarkstar The reason they dont show 'underlying emotion' is because he's a remorseless serial killer, and Will has to get in to the mind set of a killer, he loses sleep, and becomes obsessive - its fascinating. If you're whole life is spent thinking like a murderer, and being exceptionally good at it, you'd be pretty fucked up too, not to mention lector nearly killed him before and left him in hospital. It's a far more believable, the acting in this far surpasses red dragons - waaaay better
@eondarkstar Lecktor (Lecter) is played like you would imagine a real psychopath and control freak would be. Will Graham was, apparently, emotionally scarred by his meeting with Lecktor, that explains his blandness. After the meeting he storms out of the hospital. Another classic psychopath who, by your standards, doesn't show underlying emotion is Rutger Hauers character in "The Hitcher"... their lack of emotion is what makes them effective.
@baroh2413 It just seems like more of an empty character to me, maybe because Hawkins was able to take more of a part of a franchise of the books in the movies and play out the character more that we got to know him as Hawkins more thoroughly by the time he played in Red Dragon.
Respond to this video...But the movie just seems to be part of an older style of movie making that I don't think I am as interested in as you as in the preview on youtube you can see him commenting to himself about the chase and his cussing which to me in light of that era of movies seemed corny as was the fact that though he was emotional enough to cuss he was still not enough so to actually convey any emotional presence in the scene. Not that Hawkins character was overtly emotional.
In his depictions of the character Hannibal, but you were able I think to get more out of him but then, he was eventually portrayed as the anti-hero in Hannibal and Hannibal Rising and again, Hannibal the character was portrayed in Manhunter in that type of villainous style which seems to resemble something like Cockwork Orange, somewhat empty and without any reason to it which was the thing at that time, no rhyme or reason to it to add fear towards the character.
Maybe it is just partiality, having seen Hawkins portray Hannibal first and thoroughly throughout the additional films that were produced from the books. But I suppose I am taking up to much posting room on here over this if you would like to continue the discussion mail me.
@eondarkstar and Im not just saying this because I disagree with your comments, but Manhunter has some of the best acting I've ever seen, and I study film, and have studied criminology! Particularily from william petersen - watch the film - Red Dragon is well acted, but this is a proper psychological study, with attention to little subtleties and actual criminal behaviour - Red Dragon seems hollywoodized or something compared to this. this is a way better film in almost every way.
@azrial4421 the character Hannibal Lecter is from Lithuania not Germany which doesn't matter anyway because Hopkins is neither German or Lithuanian, he's Welch
@azrial4421 The character Hannibal Lecter is from Lithuania not Germany and if you're gona complain about something as silly as the actors country of origin then your gona have to complain about Hopkins as well because he's neither Lithuanian or German, he's Welsh
@HotDogWolf1 I disagree. Brian Cox portrays Hannibal Lektor as someone who doesn't realize he is insane. Hopkins portrays him as someone who revels in his insanity. Cox takes offense to the suggestion that he is insane, and obviously believes that he is too intelligent to be understood. The only person in the world to understand him is Will Graham, and he was sooooo lucky when Officer Stuart arrived. Literally, chance has bonded them.
Cox does portray Lecter more realistically, but I miss that intellectual classiness that Hopkins brought to the role. I still think his portrayal is superior to Brian's, though I do enjoy watching his performance as well. What I really like most however is William Petersen. I prefer his Will Graham over Norton's.
@OuttaEgypt I agree about Peterson’s Graham, I also think Noonan was a much better Dolarhyde. Ratner’s "Red Dragon" was a mess, neither Norton nor Fiennes came close to the their “Manhunter" counterparts. I think Cox plays a great Lecter, not as good as Hopkins, but a classic version of the villain in its own right, and one of my favorite movie madmen.
I just love when Brian Cox gives an interested look on his face @ 1:04. One minute he's bored, the next his eyebrows just jump up in fascination. Hilarious.
@Roger210201 Exactly! I don't you what you think of Red Dragon, but I so like the part where Ralph Fiennes says, 'No? No what?' and 'What? You told me what?' So macho cool and creepy. As for Manhunter, Brian Cox had the best lines, and asked the best questions. 'Dream much, Will?' 'Do you know how you caught me, Will? Do you know how you caught me?' :)!
All I see in Cox's performance is arrogance. He doesn't seem like the monster that Graham described him as earlier in the movie at all, just an average all-around douchebag. And when Graham in this movie says "I know you're not smarter than me", its absurd. Cox's Lecter doesn't seem smart at all, just rude and ignorant, whereas in Red Dragon, Hopkin's Lecter DOES seem very intelligent and high-class.
Sorry, but Red Dragon is much better than Manhunter in my opinion.
With All Respect,I Think Anthony Hopkins Is A Better Hannibal Lecter Because Anthony Hopkins Has A Very Distinct Voice And Anthony Is A Brilliant Actor He Does Amazing In Silence Of The Lambs,Hannibal,And Red Dragon but The Guy In This One Is Okay I Just LOVE Anthony
When you actually read Harris' books, Cox is the sort of Lecter that you visualize. Sir Anthony's Lecter just revels in his evil and villainy, Cox seems more like a "realistic psychopath"
this actor keep the same expression on he's forehead for to long on my opinion and makes the character of lecter look arrogant .....on the other hand mr hopkins show more face expression an knows how to use he's eye movement an has more elegance .. plus he's voice is so seductive that makes you want to really listen .. but thanks for posting this video...
@Roguemarlfox@beefking69er It's tricky but if you pause it at the moment when he seems to break the third wall by looking at the camera, it appears it may have been a glance at Graham instead. Maybe.
hopkins decided to play his part more sinisteley where as brian cox made his version more appealing by portraying him in a more human light e.g anyone who is real evil etc isnt going to present themself as that its called a cliche stereotype etc
In short, Manhunter is way better than Red Dragon, Red Dragon seems it had been quickly and forcibly. Actors seems uninterested, just to get job done without putting any real emotion. Maybe I only like ending better in Red Dragon (fight with Tooth Fairy). Because Tooth Fairy held Graham's son, and he was killed much harder.
Anthony Hopkins was a camp cartoon charachter of Dr.Lekter,Brian Cox played the restrained psyco/sociopath much more convincingly,his level of normality trumps Hopkins comic bravado.
I think Hopkins did a much better job portraying the character-in Silence of the Lambs. After that he made the character too silly and over the top. This scene was effective though-the conversation between them is rather casual sounding, as if they were old friends. But you can see Graham trying hard not to show how intimidated he is, and Lecter playing with him like a cat with a mouse.
I should be more fair to Hopkins there's no doubt he gave a fantastic performance in Lambs. I just get tired of people dismissing Manhunter. Cox was the first to play the character on film and obviously Mann had a different idea on how he was presented. Cox gives a performance that is flippantly sinister. To me it's more realistic than Lambs. They're different films with different ideas for the same character, doesn't mean one is better than the other.
@wgfinley Norton and Hopkins just blow this scene away from me in my mind. Personally, Norton gets too emotional and Hopkins at times goes overboard. But the killer in this waaay better than the remake. I really felt it in this one.
This is ridiculously shite in comparison to the same scene from Red Dragon. This is a HUGE part of the film as he is going to meet very person whom he has been trying to forget about, yet in Manhunter they failed to build up any suspense!
Cox and Hopkins are both wonderful actors and each interrupted the role in different ways. Cox 'seems' less evil because the evilest thing we see him do is give Graham's address to the Tooth Fairy, where as we get to see Hopkins go from nice and charming, as Cox is in the beginning, to removing a man's face and wearing it as a disguise.
sounds like "clarice starling" studied this fbi ,same entonation,the dialogue is,of course from the author t.harris.sounds a lot ilke the one in silence
Do you agree Will?
bvs1216 7 months ago
Who's Hawkins? I did like Mr. Hopkins as Lecter, though... I think he definitely did fit the role much better.
CNMRST 7 months ago
Like being in a cell with Hitler...scary indeed... Or Charles M
oliviaethan 7 months ago
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oliviaethan 7 months ago
hopkins
LuvTheGfunk 7 months ago 2
the bit lecter gets will grahams phone number and address is truely shocking and disturbing. How being in a confined cell he could still reach out and connect to wills life
cranfield1 7 months ago
Brian Cox is more believable as an actual psychopath & serial Killer, this character could be real, although I think Hopkins did a great job too, they're better than eachother in their own ways.
smalllions 7 months ago
Silly 80's movie, seen the preview? And they sound to much to be lacking emotion and depth, his scene where he says 'Just you and me now sport." then cusses, I usually like older movies hehe but really? Really?
eondarkstar 7 months ago
Is this the director's cut of the movie? I don't remember the extended digression on "layman" being in the theatrical release.
MrMovieAnalyst 7 months ago
Cox doesn't seem crazed enough.
hullboy116 7 months ago
@hullboy116 I think that's what makes him better. With Hopkins you could tell he was insane and could easily pick him out of a crowd, but this version shows how it would have been hard to catch him because he appeared so normal.
demonman212 7 months ago
Reminds me of Alex Delarge.
stratocaster1986able 7 months ago
This is the better scene. Michael mann's version is better than red dragon. Pitty it didn't Get the the attention it deserved then
monexmeldrick 8 months ago
Anthony Hopkins did better...
sinkingship5 8 months ago
03:45: I can understand if the fbi can't catch the killer if THAT is their whole case file...
lehnrik 8 months ago
Dream much, Will?
pwnurnoobazz 8 months ago
I know it is being picky, but it should be spelled 'Lecktor'.
kyokogodai 8 months ago
Hmmmmm.....I like both Hannibal's equally. They both have a uniquness that is unsurpassable by the other.
J43265 8 months ago
He reminds me of Fawlty by John Cleese
lichi82 8 months ago
cox is soo awesome SUPER TROOPERS YEAH
UniteForgetLeftRight 8 months ago
I find Edward Norton to be a better actor.
LicoriceLain 8 months ago
Cox's doesn't portrayal of Lecter doesn't seem as psychopathic...
UNDguy1987 8 months ago
@UNDguy1987 Because Hopkins hams it up.
Deavi783 8 months ago
This doesn't get my balls hard like the Hopkins version
McFudge93 8 months ago
Cox sounds drunk. I prefer Hopkins.
Leishmaniasisably 8 months ago
Hopkins scared me. he did a good job. thumbs up to his hairstyle. pimp.
royalduder77 9 months ago
anthony and norton were better.
22napoli7 9 months ago
anthony is so much scarier as hannibal lector. They made this one more mysterious.
mollymousemm 9 months ago
The best Lektor by far, Hopkins was all panto villain
dvdmike007 9 months ago
Grissom :D -3
DragonBunni 10 months ago
I thought the name was spelled Lecktor in this movie.
SamhainTheDark 10 months ago
This Hannibal Lecter doesn't look like he is in perfect control like Lecter should be. For me Hopkins was better.
MrsLedgerDepp 10 months ago 16
@MrsLedgerDepp Perhaps it gets more intereting if he is'nt in complete control.
lehnrik 8 months ago
@MrsLedgerDepp hopkins was'nt realistic,good but more of a cartoon villain,cox does a more realistic interpretation of a psychopath,
steviefaye 7 months ago
This incarnation of Lecter does not make me feel as though he is borrowing into the depths of the psyche with just his gaze. He seems like he's guessing whereas the confidence in Hopkins voice makes it seem like he knows exactly what he's doing and to what end. I feel no brooding or menace from Cox, I don't feel his observations are natural and the very way he moves is contrary to the image of Lecter's poise and stature being one akin to that of a dancer.
Necromortis61 10 months ago 3
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Fuck that Hopkins is Lecter, there is no other, this guy tries, but thats it!!!
Oskadella69 10 months ago
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anthony is by far better than this guy
clipmaster30001 10 months ago
One good advantage here is that Brian uses his own British accent. Mind you, Anthony was good too, but there's just something about this performance that suits the style.
AllisterCooper2008 11 months ago
Brian's behavior is so distinctively unpleasant, in a way that I think most viewers could intuitively connect with. Throughout his performances you can detect subtle facial ticks at random intervals while speaking with a less contrived attitude as opposed to Anthony's exquisite appeal. The situation portrayed in this scene provided authentic discourse between conflicting empathy and astute insanity to such a degree that I think realistically separates it from the later films.
booste30 11 months ago
The reason lecter hates will is because Will refuses to admit that he is just like him.
They are both killers, its just that Will is on one side of the law while lecter is against the law.
M8DMAN 11 months ago
@M8DMAN Also, another reason is that it was Will who caught Lecter :). I so look forward to the prequel :). Oh, they showed it in the excellent Red Dragon, but never mind :).
AllisterCooper2008 11 months ago
I think the main reason Lecter hates Will is that he sees him as an equel,and that pisses him off.
M8DMAN 11 months ago
@M8DMAN lol i think of lecter as a very classy and intelligent man but when i think of somone like him getting all pissed of and sulky it makes me laugh :)
TheMrPisstaker 10 months ago
they speak so fast its unrealistic. nobody knows what they're going to say/respond so quickly.
leoamar4385896 11 months ago
@leoamar4385896 No, the point is that these 2 men do KNOW each other so well. Not to mention, both of these men are MUCH sharper and smarter than the average person so they process information much faster.
drlee2 11 months ago
@drlee2 disagree. the only way speak so fast with witty replies is if they're reading from a script or the conversation is rehearsed. When Anthony Hopkins plays Dr. Lecter his conversation while in his cell is slower, more natural with dramatic pauses- and he still seems like a MUCH smarter Dr. Lecter than Brian Cox does.
leoamar4385896 10 months ago
@leoamar4385896 You need to read up on the serial killer Cox used for the basis of this character. You might understand why Cox played "Lecktor" this way. Also, Lecktor's scenes are very short in this film. He is just a passing character. Had more emphasis been placed on the character, you may have a different opinion. Myself, i like this version.
kyokogodai 10 months ago
They're rushing the lines too much. With Hopkins, every line felt deliberate, like he was playing a game of chess with Graham or with Starling. You got time to stew and just realize how crazy Hannibal really is. I don't get that feeling from Brian Cox, as good of an actor as he is.
JamesOhGoodie 11 months ago
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Brian Cox plays a true psychopath - one devoid of feelings, and yet a consummate actor.
We're not suppose to like him. He's not suppose to entertain us. Unlike Hopkins. No wonder people don't like his performance.
Deavi783 11 months ago
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Deavi783 11 months ago
I love Anthony Hopkins's Lecter, but I think that Brian Cox's "Lecktor" is a great companion to Gaspard Ulliel's Lecter--It's believable that Cox and Ulliel are the same man.
MystickalChristian 11 months ago
..."Reichsmarschall" Lecter...pour le Merite,...Cox can make any character stong and eerie!!!
wabankik 11 months ago
One of the best confrontation scenes until Dennis Hopper and Christopher Walken in True Romance. A superb use of 5 minutes and 28 seconds.
So tell me... if this is the truth, am I lying?
WhyDoYouAskWhoIam 11 months ago
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WhyDoYouAskWhoIam 11 months ago
Brian Cox is a legend. Loved him in Troy as Aggamemnon and he was great in first two Bourne films as Abbott Ward. He adds a touch of class to even lame films!!
admiraldma 11 months ago
@admiraldma I hope you don't consider the Bourne films to be lame :). Bourne Supremacy, to me, remains the best of Jason's adventures. Yee hah!
AllisterCooper2008 11 months ago
@AllisterCooper2008 No I love them, they rank in my top ten of all film franchises!! Cox is great in the first two films. I see now how my comment could lead people to believe I dont like them films. I was refering to other films that are lame apart from Cox's character.
admiraldma 11 months ago
@admiraldma Ah, okay. Whew, what a relief. Thank Heaven for that! 'Dream much, Will?' :)!
AllisterCooper2008 11 months ago
@wastedproperty i respect your point, but i will always think Brian Cox was so much better than Hopkins simply because he was more believable as this sophisticated Psychopath, Hopkins was creepy no doubt but i always thought to myself his performance was Definitely a Movie performance if you know what i mean and not to be taking seriously, its like i couldn't imagine Dahmer or Bundy acting that way.
5eurocups2005 11 months ago
The dragon rapids.
nath909 11 months ago
@wastedproperty so you don not think he had an advantage of having a creepy dungeon like cell and organ music in the background, you couldn't at least consider my point? Yes you do base it on his performance of course you do but his setting played a big part for the audience.
5eurocups2005 11 months ago
@wastedproperty of course it's an advantage are you stupid?
5eurocups2005 11 months ago
Holy fuck, it`s Grissom:))
GheoBlackPlum 11 months ago
Hopkins character was entertaining. Cox's character made my skin crawl.
hattrick58 1 year ago
Anthony Hopkins had a huge advantage playing Lecktor with his creepy dungeon like cell and constant organ music in the background to scare everybody before he has even opened his mouth, whereas all Brian Cox has was a plain white cell. Can you actually imagine Hopkins in that white cell? he would look so out of place and ineffective. Which is why Brian Cox is better
5eurocups2005 1 year ago
this is shit
findkys 1 year ago
BRian Cox was a much more creepy Hannibal. Hopkins made the character too cartonish
DrTrevelyan 1 year ago
Cox is wonderfully strange and chilling.
Drexfiles 1 year ago
Cox is wonderfully strange and chilling.
Drexfiles 1 year ago
I agree with people who say that this Lecter is more realistic. Hopkins is more like Dracula.
baroh2413 1 year ago 21
@baroh2413 Cox is a great actor, and his Lecter is good in many ways, but Hopkins' is far more true to the novel...
Proglove85 8 months ago
@Proglove85 the novel is not very good. this proves that you can make a good movie from a bad novel.
baroh2413 8 months ago
@baroh2413 the novel was fantastically conceptualized, and portrayed. You need to truly understand Thomas Harris' mindset to fully grasp the complexity within the novel. Easily better than either movie made after it
55cyberspace 8 months ago
@55cyberspace the novel was badly written and everything was spelled out. way too superficial and not very realistic
baroh2413 8 months ago
@baroh2413 Always thought Cox was a better actor to begin with, he's more dynamic than The Count.
Donsknotts 7 months ago
@Donsknotts More dynamic? I hope that his other appearances in the film were better then this one it seems so bland and blank neither of them seem to show much underlying emotion.
eondarkstar 7 months ago
@eondarkstar That is because he is a psychopath. He only reacts when Will Graham calls him insane, because that is his weak spot
baroh2413 7 months ago
@baroh2413 Graham also seems to have a lack of emotional reaction to the situation as well. It seems like an interesting movie for it's time but I think that Red Dragon and Anthony Hopkins were better.
eondarkstar 7 months ago
@eondarkstar The reason they dont show 'underlying emotion' is because he's a remorseless serial killer, and Will has to get in to the mind set of a killer, he loses sleep, and becomes obsessive - its fascinating. If you're whole life is spent thinking like a murderer, and being exceptionally good at it, you'd be pretty fucked up too, not to mention lector nearly killed him before and left him in hospital. It's a far more believable, the acting in this far surpasses red dragons - waaaay better
smalllions 7 months ago
@eondarkstar Lecktor (Lecter) is played like you would imagine a real psychopath and control freak would be. Will Graham was, apparently, emotionally scarred by his meeting with Lecktor, that explains his blandness. After the meeting he storms out of the hospital. Another classic psychopath who, by your standards, doesn't show underlying emotion is Rutger Hauers character in "The Hitcher"... their lack of emotion is what makes them effective.
baroh2413 7 months ago
@baroh2413 It just seems like more of an empty character to me, maybe because Hawkins was able to take more of a part of a franchise of the books in the movies and play out the character more that we got to know him as Hawkins more thoroughly by the time he played in Red Dragon.
eondarkstar 7 months ago
Respond to this video...But the movie just seems to be part of an older style of movie making that I don't think I am as interested in as you as in the preview on youtube you can see him commenting to himself about the chase and his cussing which to me in light of that era of movies seemed corny as was the fact that though he was emotional enough to cuss he was still not enough so to actually convey any emotional presence in the scene. Not that Hawkins character was overtly emotional.
eondarkstar 7 months ago
In his depictions of the character Hannibal, but you were able I think to get more out of him but then, he was eventually portrayed as the anti-hero in Hannibal and Hannibal Rising and again, Hannibal the character was portrayed in Manhunter in that type of villainous style which seems to resemble something like Cockwork Orange, somewhat empty and without any reason to it which was the thing at that time, no rhyme or reason to it to add fear towards the character.
eondarkstar 7 months ago
Maybe it is just partiality, having seen Hawkins portray Hannibal first and thoroughly throughout the additional films that were produced from the books. But I suppose I am taking up to much posting room on here over this if you would like to continue the discussion mail me.
eondarkstar 7 months ago
@eondarkstar and Im not just saying this because I disagree with your comments, but Manhunter has some of the best acting I've ever seen, and I study film, and have studied criminology! Particularily from william petersen - watch the film - Red Dragon is well acted, but this is a proper psychological study, with attention to little subtleties and actual criminal behaviour - Red Dragon seems hollywoodized or something compared to this. this is a way better film in almost every way.
smalllions 7 months ago
@baroh2413 agree
too cartonish
criceto 7 months ago
cox is nodding excessively.
mayankmadyrocks 1 year ago
Sanitised Insanity
White Light
I had an advantage you are insane
RYANKOKO 1 year ago
I like this original way better. I read the book back in 86-87 and this movie nails it much better than the Hopkins remakes.
"Would you like to leave me your hime phone number Will?" LOL!
63gstone 1 year ago
what has hopkins said about this? i think there both great
franknilop 1 year ago
How anyone could put Cox's perfomance as 'chillng' and not wooden vs Mr Hopkins! Mystery!
pauloutten 1 year ago
he is in the same league as hopkins,but i think hopkins had the dramatic edge....his lecter was just more classy.
ezmereldagreen 1 year ago
eh I thought Hannibal was from Germany, not Scotland. I do like the subtle music tho
azrial4421 1 year ago
@azrial4421 the character Hannibal Lecter is from Lithuania not Germany which doesn't matter anyway because Hopkins is neither German or Lithuanian, he's Welch
geckodragon 1 year ago
@azrial4421 The character Hannibal Lecter is from Lithuania not Germany and if you're gona complain about something as silly as the actors country of origin then your gona have to complain about Hopkins as well because he's neither Lithuanian or German, he's Welsh
geckodragon 1 year ago
@geckodragon He has a scottish accent, Hopkins had a monotone accent. Responding to something that is silly is.........wake up idiot
azrial4421 1 year ago
THIS is Hannibal Lecter. Brian Cox kicks ass! Anthony Hopkins is just Freddy Krueger minus the makeup.
HenryConway007 1 year ago
@HenryConway007
lol
you´re so right ;)
knetichen 1 year ago
Do you have any problems Will?
deathdealer60546 1 year ago
a large %tage of people loved silence of the lambs more because they never even heard of manhunter before
slaneslau 1 year ago
also the music helps a lot in the scean red dragons soundtrack wasent near as good
slaneslau 1 year ago
na this scean takes it all as its the first scean and because lecter has more life in the movie hes more scary as the insanity is still within
they r both shadows of each orther the cop and lecter
slaneslau 1 year ago
"Do you know how you caught me Will? Because we're just alike.
cinephilia7 1 year ago
This scene is scary because these 2 men know each other all too well! It's like they can read the other's mind.
drlee2 1 year ago
Why are there never any restrooms or toilets in any of the cells you see in any movie?
Supenmanu 1 year ago
@Supenmanu Go to 3 mins 16 seconds - there's clearly a toilet to the left of the bed. Sorry to er, shit, on your theory!
Sodoffanddie 1 year ago
Lecter here (called Lecktor) has the right hair, just llike in book, but they should have given him maroon lenses.
DictatorRoB 1 year ago
Cox in a great character actor, but i don't like his performance. His body language and facial expressions make him look like a cockney gangster.
MondoBeno 1 year ago
Meh, nothing in this Lecter really stood out to me.
With Hopkins, he's what I had in my head while reading on the screen: elegant, delibarate, peering at your soul with mild intrest.
This Cox guy, just doesn't add up.
HotDogWolf1 1 year ago 2
@HotDogWolf1 I disagree. Brian Cox portrays Hannibal Lektor as someone who doesn't realize he is insane. Hopkins portrays him as someone who revels in his insanity. Cox takes offense to the suggestion that he is insane, and obviously believes that he is too intelligent to be understood. The only person in the world to understand him is Will Graham, and he was sooooo lucky when Officer Stuart arrived. Literally, chance has bonded them.
natchy99 1 year ago
Cox's cel is more boring than Hopkins' that's for sure!
Ruychaven 1 year ago
i prefer the way hopkins plays lector like a child with exightment but
also like teenage attitude of im better than you and his old wise man
theme also coxdosnt seem to do this
RickieScene 1 year ago
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liamos85 1 year ago
'You had disadvantages'
'what disadvantages Will'? You were insane.
liamos85 1 year ago
Cox does portray Lecter more realistically, but I miss that intellectual classiness that Hopkins brought to the role. I still think his portrayal is superior to Brian's, though I do enjoy watching his performance as well. What I really like most however is William Petersen. I prefer his Will Graham over Norton's.
OuttaEgypt 1 year ago 17
@OuttaEgypt I agree about Peterson’s Graham, I also think Noonan was a much better Dolarhyde. Ratner’s "Red Dragon" was a mess, neither Norton nor Fiennes came close to the their “Manhunter" counterparts. I think Cox plays a great Lecter, not as good as Hopkins, but a classic version of the villain in its own right, and one of my favorite movie madmen.
TheWholeYearInn 10 months ago
Doing a micro-analysis essay on this scene.
carbine125 1 year ago
the actors stink in this. they are rushing through the lines. cox is awful
playadominical 1 year ago
I just love when Brian Cox gives an interested look on his face @ 1:04. One minute he's bored, the next his eyebrows just jump up in fascination. Hilarious.
thelupoistheman1 1 year ago
I just love the way Cox' Lektor says 'And...?'
WhyDoYouAskWhoIam 1 year ago 3
@WhyDoYouAskWhoIam Simple but effective !!
Roger210201 1 year ago
@Roger210201 Exactly! I don't you what you think of Red Dragon, but I so like the part where Ralph Fiennes says, 'No? No what?' and 'What? You told me what?' So macho cool and creepy. As for Manhunter, Brian Cox had the best lines, and asked the best questions. 'Dream much, Will?' 'Do you know how you caught me, Will? Do you know how you caught me?' :)!
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nath909 1 year ago
brian cox played a more 'realistic' hannibal, in that he might actually exist.
anthony hopkins played a much more supernatural, almost omnipotent lecter.
being a romantic, i prefer hopkin's take, but i think both performances are amazing.
thisnotmyname 1 year ago
All I see in Cox's performance is arrogance. He doesn't seem like the monster that Graham described him as earlier in the movie at all, just an average all-around douchebag. And when Graham in this movie says "I know you're not smarter than me", its absurd. Cox's Lecter doesn't seem smart at all, just rude and ignorant, whereas in Red Dragon, Hopkin's Lecter DOES seem very intelligent and high-class.
Sorry, but Red Dragon is much better than Manhunter in my opinion.
gaaraanime5 1 year ago
meh this version moves too quick
i prefure the red dragon
mattwilhelm60 1 year ago
With All Respect,I Think Anthony Hopkins Is A Better Hannibal Lecter Because Anthony Hopkins Has A Very Distinct Voice And Anthony Is A Brilliant Actor He Does Amazing In Silence Of The Lambs,Hannibal,And Red Dragon but The Guy In This One Is Okay I Just LOVE Anthony
julscool2 1 year ago
brian cox is a superb actor
noyoutakethatback 1 year ago
When you actually read Harris' books, Cox is the sort of Lecter that you visualize. Sir Anthony's Lecter just revels in his evil and villainy, Cox seems more like a "realistic psychopath"
TheGreaterGood80 1 year ago
LOL, it's Gil Grissom!
NotoriousPimp24 1 year ago
this actor keep the same expression on he's forehead for to long on my opinion and makes the character of lecter look arrogant .....on the other hand mr hopkins show more face expression an knows how to use he's eye movement an has more elegance .. plus he's voice is so seductive that makes you want to really listen .. but thanks for posting this video...
horatiosiul 1 year ago
At around 3:38 Lecter looks at the camera for a fraction of a second.
beefking69er 1 year ago
@beefking69er That's a great observation. The breaking of the third wall is subliminal here, like the flash in The Exorcist of the demonic face.
Roguemarlfox 1 year ago
@Roguemarlfox @beefking69er It's tricky but if you pause it at the moment when he seems to break the third wall by looking at the camera, it appears it may have been a glance at Graham instead. Maybe.
TheBrewchief 1 year ago
hopkins decided to play his part more sinisteley where as brian cox made his version more appealing by portraying him in a more human light e.g anyone who is real evil etc isnt going to present themself as that its called a cliche stereotype etc
Emerald01 1 year ago
Mann > Ratner
Cox > Hopkins
Petersen > Norton
Farina > Keitel
Noonan > Fiennes
Allen = Watson
Greist > Parker
Lang > Hoffman
In short, Manhunter is way better than Red Dragon, Red Dragon seems it had been quickly and forcibly. Actors seems uninterested, just to get job done without putting any real emotion. Maybe I only like ending better in Red Dragon (fight with Tooth Fairy). Because Tooth Fairy held Graham's son, and he was killed much harder.
razbigranicu 1 year ago
its grissom
MrShepp6969 1 year ago
.... i thought this was in sweedish?... :O
chubbylilloser 1 year ago
he just isnt anthony hopkins
BobaFett379251 1 year ago
While Brian Cox is a great actor. I thought Anthony Hopkins truly captured Thomas Harris's Hannibal.
tbmuex 1 year ago
the name hopkins is mentioned very often in these comments, but not the name cox.
for me cox acts like a typical american here, a bit boring and talking too much.
and why does the dumb waiter use the the postbox for his few papers, hehe, he could put a phonebook through the cage.
klippspringer 1 year ago
@klippspringer Cox is scottish you moron.
4gearkier 1 year ago
@4gearkier i never wrote he is an american. he is an actor you mole
klippspringer 1 year ago
Both versions are good but vastly different in atmosphere, style and storytelling...
weilim10 1 year ago
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jutubaeh 1 year ago
5:23 thirteen ovO
jutubaeh 1 year ago
Cant compete with Hopkins. :-)
dewy200884 1 year ago
@SouthernBelleUSA I think its called Lector's cell, by The Reds
romanblood 1 year ago
lecktor in this movie
BuellerBueller95 1 year ago
Anthony Hopkins was a camp cartoon charachter of Dr.Lekter,Brian Cox played the restrained psyco/sociopath much more convincingly,his level of normality trumps Hopkins comic bravado.
ivanthecuddly 1 year ago 2
@ivanthecuddly "nich" shadows em both...
cause he didnt go "over the top"...
anyway thanks for the initial...
this cut together, crossed shot, sure "half assed" (which classic? no mainstream...;)
trash/ mix just cements that fat "jew boy"s (which mainstream tv classic?) directors
monolithic äh "solitude standing" even more...
jutubaeh 1 year ago
@ivanthecuddly Strange it was Hopkins who won the academy award then isn't it?
Cryer24597 1 year ago
wow nice sync of the audio
jerzy862 1 year ago
Brian Cox reminds me of Henry Rollins here.
johnarthurknight 1 year ago
I think Hopkins did a much better job portraying the character-in Silence of the Lambs. After that he made the character too silly and over the top. This scene was effective though-the conversation between them is rather casual sounding, as if they were old friends. But you can see Graham trying hard not to show how intimidated he is, and Lecter playing with him like a cat with a mouse.
dkupke 1 year ago
Creepy Guy, I wouldn't want to be in the same room with Lecter.
aboltyfh 1 year ago
Cox rivals Goppkins in this role......brilliant. William Peterson as John Douglases character(will Graham) cuts to the bone.
noveltyme 1 year ago
I should be more fair to Hopkins there's no doubt he gave a fantastic performance in Lambs. I just get tired of people dismissing Manhunter. Cox was the first to play the character on film and obviously Mann had a different idea on how he was presented. Cox gives a performance that is flippantly sinister. To me it's more realistic than Lambs. They're different films with different ideas for the same character, doesn't mean one is better than the other.
wgfinley 1 year ago 24
@wgfinley Norton and Hopkins just blow this scene away from me in my mind. Personally, Norton gets too emotional and Hopkins at times goes overboard. But the killer in this waaay better than the remake. I really felt it in this one.
ThatGuyTheyareAfter 1 year ago 3
It is so hard for me to accept that this is Bryan Cox. He looks so different. Brilliant versatile actor.
AgaMbadi 1 year ago
This is ridiculously shite in comparison to the same scene from Red Dragon. This is a HUGE part of the film as he is going to meet very person whom he has been trying to forget about, yet in Manhunter they failed to build up any suspense!
bongabushwoman 1 year ago
manhunter and silence of the lambs r the best films in the series! hands down
24Nintendofan89 1 year ago
why is this sped up
rocksoliddude1 1 year ago
@rocksoliddude1 YouTube foul up rendering the video, if you change to 240P it seems to work fine (albeit bad quality).
wgfinley 1 year ago
@wgfinley thank you
rocksoliddude1 1 year ago
hopkins is way better than this prick
internalpeaceseeker 1 year ago
Cox and Hopkins are both wonderful actors and each interrupted the role in different ways. Cox 'seems' less evil because the evilest thing we see him do is give Graham's address to the Tooth Fairy, where as we get to see Hopkins go from nice and charming, as Cox is in the beginning, to removing a man's face and wearing it as a disguise.
dunebuggy1974 1 year ago
I would love to see Brian Cox reprise his role as Lecter. He has become one of my most favorite actors and he did a marvelous job as Lecter.
Doyledeth 1 year ago
@Doyledeth The only recent thing I saw him in was X2 as Stryker.
NeverAloneForever 1 year ago
@NeverAloneForever He was also in The Ring, Bourne 1 and 2, Troy and Super Troopers!
Doyledeth 1 year ago
@Doyledeth I should have recognized him from The Bourne Identity and Supremacy. Hmm . . . who did he play in The Ring?
I'm still having thoughts on whether or not to see Super Troopers . . . but that doesn't matter.
NeverAloneForever 1 year ago
@NeverAloneForever He was Samara's father, the guy who killed himself in the tub with the electricity.
Doyledeth 1 year ago
@Doyledeth Oh yeah, now I remember. Thanks.
NeverAloneForever 1 year ago
@Doyledeth Oh, and I just noticed your icon. RDR was a great game.
NeverAloneForever 1 year ago
Im Scottish BUT Anthiny Hopkins is the real Dr Hannibal! None comes close no even my fellow Scott the quality Brian Cox who is a great actor.
shewasahooa 1 year ago
sounds like "clarice starling" studied this fbi ,same entonation,the dialogue is,of course from the author t.harris.sounds a lot ilke the one in silence
Nipisful 1 year ago
anthony hopkins has more of presence
MartinScorCrazy 1 year ago