@clockworkapple42 It looks like it's about the 'rat race', the endless toil people do for little reward. Its also about the mess we make of the world, in the process. Its about the unsatisfactory way were living our lives.
@s3lFish Im artistic n I draw as I please, for pleasure, meaning, or both. You Leftists attack anything sane as 'emotional', 'unfeeling', or whatever, whenever u like. Yr agenda is the simple destruction of good, conscious people, to create an empire of beaten slaves!
Oh god, so much bullshit. It's a freaking highway. It's not useful in the slightest. It's just art by the same standards that Pollock is art, which is to say snobs trying to assign meaning where there is none.
@gogerychwyrndrobwll oh boy you really don't understand shit, first of all pollock isn't about meaning, he's an abstract expressionist, he's painting his feelings with his guts, there's no meaning or understanding of anythin there, its just pure emotion and feelings, of course i don't expect you to understand such things. second, art is not there to be "useful", so this sequence isn't useful, you do know that art, is about emotion right ? but maybe you're just a lost robot in this cold society
I understand that many scenes in Solaris are intended to be moving photographs, such as the very opening...but this is one scene in this wonderful movie that I will never understand.
Any human claiming this scene or the whole film to be "boring" hasn't improved the mind yet. It takes a lot to understand, love, appreciate (Yes, in that order) "Solaris" by Андрей Тарковский or any film like that: It takes an open mind, love and appreciation for symbolism, appreciation to read between the lines, it takes love for the gift Тарковский gave to the world - he managed not only to slow but even to stop the time in his films, which is unfortunately impossible in life.
This film is classic and this particular scene is classic, regardless of any senseless comment claiming this scene to be "boring". This scene can't be boring because it's useful. It's useful because any human can think about this scene and see whatever he or she wants to see, applying his or her allegories, WHICH IS A TRAINING FOR THE MIND. Exercising the mind like that makes it better, so any human can talk better and think better, count better, understand the world better with a trained mind.
I guess if I were a Soviet peasant living in the Steppes or even someplace like Estonia, this sequence WOULD seem sci-fi. Add the weird alien-like noises in the soundtrack and the illusion is complete. Totally hypnotic sequence.
You're all wrong. This is just a boring scene to artificially increase the film's running time. Enough with the "powerful psychological feeling" bullshit. The only powerful emotion in this clip is boredom.
now, this spaced shots are very important cause it presents the european/russian style something usa tried to copy and never understood, excepto the hindis and chinese.. :)
no, its not about snobs its about knowing cinematography, the whole movie is a art master piece and it tried to be artistic futuristic!
@tinotrivino Oh, my bad. It is still very long though, and very difficult to watch. It's not a matter of art anymore when your watchers are all fighting sleep!
@gogerychwyrndrobwll i reckon you are the only one fighting sleep.. this scene is totally A MASTERPIECE! i mean i saw the movie twice, it's perfect but this is the best scene i ever saw in my life and im no a cinema snob, i am a normal girl.. but this is epic, i was trembling watchin it. in one word: THRILLS!
@gogerychwyrndrobwll lol :D well i would love that but i know what you meant, i really can say just watch the first version omg!!! hahahaha.. now there is 7 versions out there fro mBlade Runner for me the best was the fourth! :)
Does anybody else remember this of the highway scene in Ghost in the Shell?
(You know, the one about 51 minutes into the movie, when Nakamura and Dr. Willis talk about project 2501 in the limo and the Nightstalker song starts playing.)
Someone once told me that this scene stood out to him because it was so long. I think the length is required in order for the shot (near the end) of mass traffic to be psychologically jarring. This is an interesting example of the utilization of technology in order to question technological advancement.
This was my favorite scene in the movie, and i honestly didn't think i would find it on youtube, let alone 80,000 views.
It's so great because, it almost forces me to look at human civilization from an alien's perspective. Our roadways, lines, signs, cars, and buildings are quite peculiar, and totally engaging.
Linked from nytimes magazine article on watching t and movies you don't get: "After I left the library, my friend asked me what I thought. “That was amazing,” I said. When he asked me what part I liked the best, I picked the five-minute sequence of a car driving down a highway, because it seemed the most boring. "
whether Tarkovsky said that, or whether he meant it...
doesn't matter
the simple truth is that if you're not willing to seriously devote three or more hours of your life to a film--even if it moves at a snail's pace, or is filled with medium shots which don't let you see faces, or looks more like a moving painting than a story, or appears confusing at first glance--then you shouldn't bother with Tarkovsky.
his films are extremely demanding, of attention, and time...
The critics on the criterion dvd dismiss this scene for being dated- it was apparently supposed to look very modern and futuristic to the soviets at the time, and obviously doesn't anymore. But whatever the intent, to me this scene is amazing and serves as juxtaposted with the natural earthly beauty of the previous scenes and the alien, alienating effect of modernity.
Hmm... Back in the 70's Tarkovsky gave an interview about this film to local (Soviet) tv program. He was asked why he shot this scene in Tokyo, instead of Moscow or some other Soviet megapolis, and said that needed long uninterrupted city shots without traffic lights in sight. Policy in USSR were that there should not be major highways build through cities, only around them.
hmm idk. I think the commentators did quote Tarkovsky giving the futuristic reason. Perhaps his reasoning was multifaceted or he gave different answers to different audiences. Either way it doesn't in any way affect my read or experience of this great segment to one of my fave films.
@enigmism4life You wanna hear something funny - I've seen this film number of time and only about 5 minutes ago noticed that most of this scene is Black-and-White :)
Whats with the shot at 4:21? There is a road on the lower right that just fades away into another one - same with the far left roads, both the upper and lower section just fade away?
It's just a kind of faded stylistic splice. If you look at the building in the above right, it's the same as the one in the middle. They're just "tiling" the image.
@invanorm If you look closer, right side of that shot (about 1/5) is a mirrored reflection of the highway in the middle. Look at the cars, you'll see :)
I realize this was shot in Japan but in the context of the film you've got to wonder what's with all the Japanese letters on signs and cars? I mean he's going home from a Russian cottage in the future. Within the story there is no reason for the Japanese letters other than the steets looking futuristic and interesting.
when i watched the movie i started to fell sleepy in this scene,not ´cause i was bored,i was kinda hypnotized by the cars and the buildings passing by...
This is an incredible scene. Can anyone tell me which stretch of the expressway we see from 2:45 onwards (the section with the square archways over the road). I'm doing an art piece which pays homeage to Tarkovsky and really need to know!
The same story with Stalker. Tarkovsky was the great artist and he could create what he wanted. His movies touch something deep inside and change you once and forever.
So what if certain images in Tarkovskys film werent in the Stanislaw Lem book? Stanley Kubricks A Clockwork Orange was a great movie because he chose to leave out the final, sappy, impotent last chapter of Burgess original book. If writers dont work with directors on a constructive level, they shouldnt complain about adaptations. The only complaint that I have is that there isnt a decent English language version of Solaris.
I meant subtitles. I hate to sound like an English speaking person, but for senior citizens or people who have visual problems, a reasonably dubbed film, sanctioned by those involved in the making, goes a pretty long way. It also prevents it from being slammed into the "Art Film" category and ignored by most people.
couldn't agree more, but i referred to the fact that Sodenbergh's version IMHO is inferior to Tarkovsky's masterpiece or Lem´s book. AMEN to the right of a filmmaker to make its own interpretation of previous work, as long as the changes has some inner value in narrative terms (as in LOTR film version) or artistic - Technical (as in Kubrick's Clockwork orange or 2010).
I like Sodenbergh's version at the time, because it was so different from the awful Sci Fi that was coming out at the same time. Watching Tarkovsky's original, for the first time last year, made me realize how dull and conventional the remake was. I rented Fritz Lang's M for the first time this week and I thank God no one has redid it in sixty years. Yet.
@scitsalcoryp He didn't toy with anything, the original Solaris is still perfect safe and intact for you and I to enjoy. He just opened the movie to a completely new generation of people that would have likely never heard of the original, now those that have been exposed to the new Solaris will have an opportunity to choose to see the original, in a way, Soderbergh opened the original to a new demographic that might have otherwise never seen it.
@McLarenMercedes So right...plus it seems like nobody has an original thought left in their heads..in this lazy ass coke brained society it is so much easier to rip off the masters and throw in endless mind numbing action instead of getting anyone to actually use their brains . Lame
The advantages of the past is that all the best movies, music etc. have been filtered by time, so only the best ones are known today. This can skew your perspective thinking the past was so much better than today, because you're only seeing the high products of that time.
@McLarenMercedes And that people will forget what really good films are. 1930-1970's movies where made for mature audience. Today they make it for the 9-13 olds mental level.
@McLarenMercedes Well duh! Hollywood is a business, and it does make sense, from a financial perspective, to "milk" a known successful product for all it's worth.
Thanks for posting this. I'm watching the movie now (recorded from TCM) and this scene was just hypnotic. It'll be much easier to show someone else this clip than to explain why a 4 minute clip of 70's urban traffic can be so interesting. :)
I think this scene is really beautiful and thought out, i mean a lot of people in the commercial world would think this is a load of shit, but i loved it.
The whole film of Solaris was riveting and a pure masterpiece, some people will like it, some will hate it, i loved it.
B: Because absolutely nothing like it existed in Russia. To a Russian audience (who were still riding steam trains and were the only audience expected to see the film) it would have been a fantastical scene that did indeed appear to be a "City of the Future."
Indeed, however if your profile accurately reflects your age you are nowhere near old enough to have seen them; I am. Oh, sure electrification was well under way, but hardly complete at the time.
I also recall being amused at a Czech (admittedly not Russia) college student about 1967 in jaw dropped at at the sight of - Queens.
She thought a neon Budweiser sign was the most the beautiful thing she had ever seen.
I don't mean to imply that Russia was totally backwards and you may not be aware that the west had some steam still running, at least for hauling freight, into the 60s, even in America; which did not suffer in WWII as did Mother Russia.
Still, the best way I can describe the Soviet bloc of the time is a peculiar mix of Crichton's Medieval World and Gilliam's Brazil - but with advanced rocket technology.
Still, perhaps I was not being entirely fair and comparing apples to apples, Tokyo to Moskva.
Nobody was riding steam trains around cosmopolitan centers and I didn't mean to imply that they were, although I can see that it could be read that way.
I mean this is FUN:DDD What the hell are these Lada & other soviet "monsters" are doing in a Sci-Fi?!:D Then this isn't sci-fi, rather it's history...
A great scene indeed but to leave out what he cuts to at the end is to leave out the most important part, in my opinion. Tarkovsky then cuts to a huge tree in a forest which is dwarfing a human...the scene is one of complete beauty and serenity...
..but on the other hand, perhaps gasoline could be so cheap, and car engines so efficient, in the Solaris future, that gasoline is .455 cents a gallon and the mileage of the cars in this video clip are 100 miles to the gallon? I believe this is called "science fiction"???!!!
i hope anyone watching this has already seen it in its proper context in the film... i was deeply 'shaken' by it the first time i saw it... totally unexpected. i felt like i was having a nightmare by the end of it, totally lost sense of time!
i like all the old school japanese metal in this scene
myintegraisonfire 1 month ago
@clockworkapple42 It looks like it's about the 'rat race', the endless toil people do for little reward. Its also about the mess we make of the world, in the process. Its about the unsatisfactory way were living our lives.
millichocs 1 month ago
@s3lFish Im artistic n I draw as I please, for pleasure, meaning, or both. You Leftists attack anything sane as 'emotional', 'unfeeling', or whatever, whenever u like. Yr agenda is the simple destruction of good, conscious people, to create an empire of beaten slaves!
millichocs 1 month ago
Saying this bullshit is art is the same thing as saying Google Street View is the biggest masterpiece of art in the history of the universe.
mekillyou 2 months ago
Oh god, so much bullshit. It's a freaking highway. It's not useful in the slightest. It's just art by the same standards that Pollock is art, which is to say snobs trying to assign meaning where there is none.
gogerychwyrndrobwll 2 months ago
@gogerychwyrndrobwll oh boy you really don't understand shit, first of all pollock isn't about meaning, he's an abstract expressionist, he's painting his feelings with his guts, there's no meaning or understanding of anythin there, its just pure emotion and feelings, of course i don't expect you to understand such things. second, art is not there to be "useful", so this sequence isn't useful, you do know that art, is about emotion right ? but maybe you're just a lost robot in this cold society
s3lfFish 2 months ago
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@s3lfFish You're just another retarded snob.
gogerychwyrndrobwll 2 months ago
I understand that many scenes in Solaris are intended to be moving photographs, such as the very opening...but this is one scene in this wonderful movie that I will never understand.
clockworkapple42 2 months ago
Any human claiming this scene or the whole film to be "boring" hasn't improved the mind yet. It takes a lot to understand, love, appreciate (Yes, in that order) "Solaris" by Андрей Тарковский or any film like that: It takes an open mind, love and appreciation for symbolism, appreciation to read between the lines, it takes love for the gift Тарковский gave to the world - he managed not only to slow but even to stop the time in his films, which is unfortunately impossible in life.
NoyabrNovember 2 months ago
This film is classic and this particular scene is classic, regardless of any senseless comment claiming this scene to be "boring". This scene can't be boring because it's useful. It's useful because any human can think about this scene and see whatever he or she wants to see, applying his or her allegories, WHICH IS A TRAINING FOR THE MIND. Exercising the mind like that makes it better, so any human can talk better and think better, count better, understand the world better with a trained mind.
NoyabrNovember 2 months ago
@NoyabrNovember I usually exercise my mind when I'm taking a shit, not when I'm hoping to get entertainment.
mekillyou 2 months ago
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gogerychwyrndrobwll 2 months ago
an awesome film
themayocycle 2 months ago
this was recorded in japan!
tinotrivino 2 months ago
I guess if I were a Soviet peasant living in the Steppes or even someplace like Estonia, this sequence WOULD seem sci-fi. Add the weird alien-like noises in the soundtrack and the illusion is complete. Totally hypnotic sequence.
elgatonyc 3 months ago
You're all wrong. This is just a boring scene to artificially increase the film's running time. Enough with the "powerful psychological feeling" bullshit. The only powerful emotion in this clip is boredom.
gogerychwyrndrobwll 3 months ago
@gogerychwyrndrobwll yo have no clue about cinematography dude!
tinotrivino 2 months ago
@tinotrivino Yes, that's what all snobs say when someone calls them out on the fact that they are only being snobs.
Here's a very simple thing anyone should know about cinematography: The film is over 3 hours long. Leave this fucking scene out.
gogerychwyrndrobwll 2 months ago
@gogerychwyrndrobwll the film is 2:49 hours long...
now, this spaced shots are very important cause it presents the european/russian style something usa tried to copy and never understood, excepto the hindis and chinese.. :)
no, its not about snobs its about knowing cinematography, the whole movie is a art master piece and it tried to be artistic futuristic!
tinotrivino 2 months ago
@tinotrivino Oh, my bad. It is still very long though, and very difficult to watch. It's not a matter of art anymore when your watchers are all fighting sleep!
gogerychwyrndrobwll 2 months ago
@gogerychwyrndrobwll i reckon you are the only one fighting sleep.. this scene is totally A MASTERPIECE! i mean i saw the movie twice, it's perfect but this is the best scene i ever saw in my life and im no a cinema snob, i am a normal girl.. but this is epic, i was trembling watchin it. in one word: THRILLS!
KittyTheKiller 2 months ago
@KittyTheKiller Snob.
gogerychwyrndrobwll 2 months ago
@gogerychwyrndrobwll lol yes In this case i understand you very well same happend to me with the frist two versions of blade runner lol :)
tinotrivino 2 months ago
@tinotrivino Now imagine what would've happened if the flight to Tyrell corporation had taken 5 minutes of non-descript imagery! :D
gogerychwyrndrobwll 2 months ago
@gogerychwyrndrobwll lol :D well i would love that but i know what you meant, i really can say just watch the first version omg!!! hahahaha.. now there is 7 versions out there fro mBlade Runner for me the best was the fourth! :)
tinotrivino 2 months ago
tokyo in a time capsule ...trippy
scitsalcoryp 3 months ago
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FivePanel 3 months ago
It seems to be a representation of time and space
FivePanel 3 months ago
This sequence is a simple hypnotic induction to create an altered state of consciousness. It's a travel in space and time.
MicheleWardark 3 months ago
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i hate this scene!
holicat098 4 months ago
Does anybody else remember this of the highway scene in Ghost in the Shell?
(You know, the one about 51 minutes into the movie, when Nakamura and Dr. Willis talk about project 2501 in the limo and the Nightstalker song starts playing.)
exoteeelis 5 months ago
why is it black and white
YUZO2kxx 5 months ago
@YUZO2kxx Because MosFilm did not give Tarkovsky enough color film stock, so he shot many of the drabber scenes in monochrome,
MrJohndoakes 5 months ago
Someone once told me that this scene stood out to him because it was so long. I think the length is required in order for the shot (near the end) of mass traffic to be psychologically jarring. This is an interesting example of the utilization of technology in order to question technological advancement.
Cheers.
sheepinavacuum 6 months ago
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YourHousex3 6 months ago
LA PIù BELLA SEQUENZA DI SOLARIS CHE OLTRETUTTO ERA STATA TAGLIATA DAI PRODUTTORI DEL FILM!
43U7 6 months ago
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Tarkovskij's Solaris is vitation of Lem's novel! Shit!
ronaldik14 6 months ago
Tarkovskij's Solaris is vitation of Lem's novel! Shit!
ronaldik14 6 months ago
best fim ever
lepricoun 7 months ago
This footage was later used as the end credits for the popular video game "Gran Turismo 5"
nerfmyaccount 7 months ago
the most hypnotised scene for me i like it so much
mahna135mahna 7 months ago 2
I watched it. All of it. Best part: 4:42.
BradyGoldie 7 months ago
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scitsalcoryp 8 months ago
This was my favorite scene in the movie, and i honestly didn't think i would find it on youtube, let alone 80,000 views.
It's so great because, it almost forces me to look at human civilization from an alien's perspective. Our roadways, lines, signs, cars, and buildings are quite peculiar, and totally engaging.
JayMalone 9 months ago
Linked from nytimes magazine article on watching t and movies you don't get: "After I left the library, my friend asked me what I thought. “That was amazing,” I said. When he asked me what part I liked the best, I picked the five-minute sequence of a car driving down a highway, because it seemed the most boring. "
illanelle 9 months ago
reminds me a bit of the tunnel scene in the original charlie and the chocolate factory.
broxboy86 9 months ago
So many emotion caused by such a simple, yet complex scene. So well put together.
LGclanQS 9 months ago
sofia coppola used a scene like this at the end of her "lost in translation"
stefano720420 10 months ago
How exciting
IAMTHECAPSGODLOL 10 months ago
Best scene of all times.
billscorpse 10 months ago
this scene (to me) is similar to the wedding scene in The Deer Hunter... overly long to be sure but somehow hypnotic and unforgettable
uneedtherapy42 10 months ago
Mi escena favorita de la pelicula
buscapetropical 11 months ago
What's with the robotic sounds?
HarryPotter87 11 months ago
@HarryPotter87 go back to watching harry potter, kid
marekamaruq 11 months ago
@HarryPotter87 so you remember it's supposed to be a sci-fi movie, not just a tour of a Tokyo highway.
Renulin 9 months ago
Weeeeeeeeee!
CaptainPommby 1 year ago
great scene
mopmu 1 year ago 2
whether Tarkovsky said that, or whether he meant it...
doesn't matter
the simple truth is that if you're not willing to seriously devote three or more hours of your life to a film--even if it moves at a snail's pace, or is filled with medium shots which don't let you see faces, or looks more like a moving painting than a story, or appears confusing at first glance--then you shouldn't bother with Tarkovsky.
his films are extremely demanding, of attention, and time...
drone5 1 year ago 2
why is this sceen so long?????
MrCrispian 1 year ago
Orinic scene!
GERARD0forever 1 year ago
this is so fucking awesome
delbertgrady 1 year ago
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who made this fantastic movie ????
lepricoun 1 year ago
Wow! Amazing! I lived in Tokyo and I used to drive Shuto Expressway many times.
Thank you.
kans1948 1 year ago
ha, for Russians it was sci-fi
farmfilfarmersyrkac 1 year ago
The critics on the criterion dvd dismiss this scene for being dated- it was apparently supposed to look very modern and futuristic to the soviets at the time, and obviously doesn't anymore. But whatever the intent, to me this scene is amazing and serves as juxtaposted with the natural earthly beauty of the previous scenes and the alien, alienating effect of modernity.
enigmism4life 1 year ago
@enigmism4life
Hmm... Back in the 70's Tarkovsky gave an interview about this film to local (Soviet) tv program. He was asked why he shot this scene in Tokyo, instead of Moscow or some other Soviet megapolis, and said that needed long uninterrupted city shots without traffic lights in sight. Policy in USSR were that there should not be major highways build through cities, only around them.
VitasWishList 1 year ago
@VitasWishList
hmm idk. I think the commentators did quote Tarkovsky giving the futuristic reason. Perhaps his reasoning was multifaceted or he gave different answers to different audiences. Either way it doesn't in any way affect my read or experience of this great segment to one of my fave films.
enigmism4life 1 year ago
@enigmism4life You wanna hear something funny - I've seen this film number of time and only about 5 minutes ago noticed that most of this scene is Black-and-White :)
VitasWishList 1 year ago
Whats with the shot at 4:21? There is a road on the lower right that just fades away into another one - same with the far left roads, both the upper and lower section just fade away?
invanorm 1 year ago
@invanorm haha i guess they just superimposed a different highway over it and didn't do such a good job. i caught that the first time i saw it lol
infamousNfamous 1 year ago
@invanorm
It's just a kind of faded stylistic splice. If you look at the building in the above right, it's the same as the one in the middle. They're just "tiling" the image.
Hzqi 1 year ago
@invanorm If you look closer, right side of that shot (about 1/5) is a mirrored reflection of the highway in the middle. Look at the cars, you'll see :)
VitasWishList 1 year ago
I've driven down this road!
phishthefish 1 year ago
You don't have to leave Earth to find yourself in an alien world.
spurtfather 1 year ago 6
Whoa...
McNugget06 1 year ago
the motorway is a symbol of his mind, the cars symbolize his thoughts.
MagnusBrage 1 year ago
A cool and hypnotic sequence. It´s interesting the things you notice and/or think when you watch something like this.
Cthulu1985 1 year ago
I was told about this scene: several minutes of a man riding in a car with no dialogue. I expected it to be boring, but it's actually quite hypnotic.
I couldn't help but notice that all the billboards and street signs are in Japanese...
jasonsbrain2 1 year ago 3
@jasonsbrain2 I wonder why that would be.
Makingnewnamesisdumb 1 year ago
When I saw his as a teenager, I thought, "WOW! Moscow is incredibly modern!" But, on further inspection, I see it's definitely not Moscow.
RammatRamzi 1 year ago
@RammatRamzi its tokyo in the early 1970s
mylittleemperor 1 year ago
当時も今もビルの谷間を縫うように高架ありトンネルありの網の目のごとく発達した
都市高速道路というものは日本特有のものだったのではないでしょうか。
仮説ですがタルコフスキーは日本の首都高に未来社会の都市風景の具現化を見たのでは？
ryujinoguchimengele 1 year ago
外苑から三宅坂は今と殆ど変わらないね。
Kichijoji69 1 year ago
ohhh........my head
LesSilence02 1 year ago
訂正
公定的→肯定的
barton384 1 year ago
この首都高のシーンは決して公定的な意味で映画に使われていません
タルコフスキーは1972年当時に既に殺伐とした文明のなれの果ての姿を当時の東京に見ていたんでしょう
一切の映像的加工を施さずに素材をそのまま使用している所に、この街作りに対する痛烈な批判を感じます
barton384 1 year ago
Tarkovsky shot this segment on his way from his hotel to visit his hero, Akira Kurosawa.
code007id 1 year ago
When tarkovsky was asked why he made such a long highway scene he said he did it long so that fools had time to leave a theatre.
ATMirror 1 year ago 83
@ATMirror
Genius!
McLarenMercedes 7 months ago
there is nothing like this genius.
joebstarsurfer 1 year ago
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this331 1 year ago
I realize this was shot in Japan but in the context of the film you've got to wonder what's with all the Japanese letters on signs and cars? I mean he's going home from a Russian cottage in the future. Within the story there is no reason for the Japanese letters other than the steets looking futuristic and interesting.
this331 1 year ago
when i watched the movie i started to fell sleepy in this scene,not ´cause i was bored,i was kinda hypnotized by the cars and the buildings passing by...
semanray 1 year ago 2
It aint that great guys.
thegafferlives 1 year ago
赤坂見附の東急のホテルを別にすれば、風景はすっかり変わってしまったけど，首都高自体がそれほど変わっていないのには驚いた。
victoryspulse 1 year ago
「ストーカー」という言葉が変質者の類にされて久しい昨今、悲しいですね・・・・・。
tttooohhhrrruuu 2 years ago
That SOUND, at the 2:02 mark... !!! Wow.
PBSchannel23 2 years ago
One of the best scenes from the movie,
I used to watch this part over and over
Thank you for sharing.
iwasbornintokyo 2 years ago
the sounds of early russian electronica guru Artemiev do support a great deal to the feel of Tarkovsy´s films.
Movietrax 2 years ago
This is an incredible scene. Can anyone tell me which stretch of the expressway we see from 2:45 onwards (the section with the square archways over the road). I'm doing an art piece which pays homeage to Tarkovsky and really need to know!
sherwinetc 2 years ago
It was shot in Tokyo, specifically Akasaka. Hence the left hand driving.
corporatephuckpuppet 2 years ago
@corporatephuckpuppet I thought it was shot in Osaka, that's what I read in a book about Solaris
pelushworld 2 years ago
@pelushworld it's tokyo.the book was mistook,i think. if you have a chance to visit tokyo,you can drive this future scape.
goystersauce 1 year ago
Of course, this was in the days before SatNav!
sturman80 2 years ago
Tokyo real live higway was a good idea incredible
Staszek1987050806 2 years ago
日本の近代化ってやっぱ奇跡的だね。戦後２０年くらいで、その当時想像できる都市のイメージを実現しちゃった。西欧人には奇妙に見えたのでしょうね。合理的精神と規律遵守がアジアの片隅の敗戦国にある分けないと思ったか。。。でも今ではそれも崩れつつある・・・。
madmax7272jj 2 years ago
新宿から入って、谷町、飯倉の方へ抜けてってるのかな?
DZB00167 2 years ago
yes japanese person, that's japan. i'm sure whatever you said, it was pertinent.
Aquaspleen 2 years ago 3
This is Shuto expressway belt line of Tokyo.
By this movie, he goes to Iikura,Tanimachi, from Shinjuku.(1971)
This way is always congested now.
DZB00167 2 years ago 17
a movie is not a book and never can be and thank god for that for movies and for books
toddgreer 2 years ago 3
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You know, I wouldn't mind Tarkovsky's self-indulgent elitism half so much if he hadn't MISSED THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE NOVEL.
lokiskywalker 2 years ago
The same story with Stalker. Tarkovsky was the great artist and he could create what he wanted. His movies touch something deep inside and change you once and forever.
SmilingRoger 2 years ago
So what if certain images in Tarkovskys film werent in the Stanislaw Lem book? Stanley Kubricks A Clockwork Orange was a great movie because he chose to leave out the final, sappy, impotent last chapter of Burgess original book. If writers dont work with directors on a constructive level, they shouldnt complain about adaptations. The only complaint that I have is that there isnt a decent English language version of Solaris.
gahrzahk 2 years ago
@gahrzahk yeah, even the one made by Sodenbergh . LOL
Jumosk 1 year ago
@Jumosk
I meant subtitles. I hate to sound like an English speaking person, but for senior citizens or people who have visual problems, a reasonably dubbed film, sanctioned by those involved in the making, goes a pretty long way. It also prevents it from being slammed into the "Art Film" category and ignored by most people.
gahrzahk 1 year ago
@gahrzahk
couldn't agree more, but i referred to the fact that Sodenbergh's version IMHO is inferior to Tarkovsky's masterpiece or Lem´s book. AMEN to the right of a filmmaker to make its own interpretation of previous work, as long as the changes has some inner value in narrative terms (as in LOTR film version) or artistic - Technical (as in Kubrick's Clockwork orange or 2010).
Jumosk 1 year ago
@Jumosk
I like Sodenbergh's version at the time, because it was so different from the awful Sci Fi that was coming out at the same time. Watching Tarkovsky's original, for the first time last year, made me realize how dull and conventional the remake was. I rented Fritz Lang's M for the first time this week and I thank God no one has redid it in sixty years. Yet.
gahrzahk 1 year ago 2
@gahrzahk
any highway scenes in söderbergs version ?
JonasE1969 1 year ago
@JonasE1969 Screw Soderberghs version..what the hell was he thinking toying with a complete masterpiece .
scitsalcoryp 8 months ago
@scitsalcoryp He didn't toy with anything, the original Solaris is still perfect safe and intact for you and I to enjoy. He just opened the movie to a completely new generation of people that would have likely never heard of the original, now those that have been exposed to the new Solaris will have an opportunity to choose to see the original, in a way, Soderbergh opened the original to a new demographic that might have otherwise never seen it.
DarkRendition 7 months ago
@DarkRendition Allright .
scitsalcoryp 7 months ago
@scitsalcoryp
What the hell was Gus Van Sant thinking when he remade Psycho? Heck, I never understood why Tim Burton had to remake "Planet of the Apes" in 2001.
The real reason movies are remade is to milk more money from old classics.
McLarenMercedes 7 months ago 3
@McLarenMercedes So right...plus it seems like nobody has an original thought left in their heads..in this lazy ass coke brained society it is so much easier to rip off the masters and throw in endless mind numbing action instead of getting anyone to actually use their brains . Lame
scitsalcoryp 7 months ago
@scitsalcoryp I dont think you and @McLarenMercedes are looking objectively at things.
The advantages of the past is that all the best movies, music etc. have been filtered by time, so only the best ones are known today. This can skew your perspective thinking the past was so much better than today, because you're only seeing the high products of that time.
UnknownGunslinger 6 months ago
@UnknownGunslinger Got It and appreciate your response....
Still , all the heady 70 weirdness could not be replicated adequately...
It is an impossible film to duplicate or even imitate...
scitsalcoryp 6 months ago
@McLarenMercedes And that people will forget what really good films are. 1930-1970's movies where made for mature audience. Today they make it for the 9-13 olds mental level.
Quex01 6 months ago 9
@Quex01 One may say that's the definition of 'going mainstream'.
mammothfire 2 weeks ago
@McLarenMercedes I heard their planning on remaking The Warriors.
ArkusVI 1 month ago
@McLarenMercedes Well duh! Hollywood is a business, and it does make sense, from a financial perspective, to "milk" a known successful product for all it's worth.
empyreon1e 3 weeks ago
You've missed the entire point of the movie.
chinopisces 2 years ago
i guess that the change from b/w to the colour means that Berton thinks about the past (Solaris) and then again about the presence (Earth) and so on
flaminia5 2 years ago
Fantastic scene - I always thought this sequence was the actual journey to Solaris as here's no 'space travel' to speak of.
tomelty 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this. I'm watching the movie now (recorded from TCM) and this scene was just hypnotic. It'll be much easier to show someone else this clip than to explain why a 4 minute clip of 70's urban traffic can be so interesting. :)
bcostin 2 years ago 3
Fantastic foley work, finally oriented , my headphones L/R
allertonoff2 2 years ago 2
superb stuff....
Justfilloutthe111111 3 years ago
Great!
nunhov 3 years ago
anybody noticed there's some sort of a ghost road coming from the lower right at 4:21??
It just fades into the other road.
fennerman 3 years ago 6
He used some effects in this sequence to complificate the road/traffic structure. Some of them cleaner than others.
He wanted it more dense than even Tokyo could provide.
IsaacBickerstaffEsq 3 years ago
I think this scene is really beautiful and thought out, i mean a lot of people in the commercial world would think this is a load of shit, but i loved it.
The whole film of Solaris was riveting and a pure masterpiece, some people will like it, some will hate it, i loved it.
IamHumphreyGalea 3 years ago
Why was this scene filmed in Japan?
violentkid19 3 years ago
Osaka, Japan.
editotaku 3 years ago
Thanks
violentkid19 3 years ago
It was Tokyo, not Osaka.
I guess the director felt something towards Japan.
That's also why he used the sound of bamboo flute (Shakuhachi) in his last film.
GokiburiPinoy 3 years ago 3
Oh okay
violentkid19 3 years ago
A: Because he was allowed to go.
B: Because absolutely nothing like it existed in Russia. To a Russian audience (who were still riding steam trains and were the only audience expected to see the film) it would have been a fantastical scene that did indeed appear to be a "City of the Future."
IsaacBickerstaffEsq 3 years ago 6
Awesomeness
violentkid19 3 years ago
Thanks for putting this scene into perspective.
Setebos 3 years ago
Speaking as a native-born Russian, except for the steam train part, IsaacBickerstaffEsq is corrent
Strannik01 3 years ago 2
Indeed, however if your profile accurately reflects your age you are nowhere near old enough to have seen them; I am. Oh, sure electrification was well under way, but hardly complete at the time.
I also recall being amused at a Czech (admittedly not Russia) college student about 1967 in jaw dropped at at the sight of - Queens.
She thought a neon Budweiser sign was the most the beautiful thing she had ever seen.
IsaacBickerstaffEsq 3 years ago
I don't mean to imply that Russia was totally backwards and you may not be aware that the west had some steam still running, at least for hauling freight, into the 60s, even in America; which did not suffer in WWII as did Mother Russia.
Still, the best way I can describe the Soviet bloc of the time is a peculiar mix of Crichton's Medieval World and Gilliam's Brazil - but with advanced rocket technology.
Except for the Soviet part I rather liked it.
IsaacBickerstaffEsq 3 years ago
Still, perhaps I was not being entirely fair and comparing apples to apples, Tokyo to Moskva.
Nobody was riding steam trains around cosmopolitan centers and I didn't mean to imply that they were, although I can see that it could be read that way.
IsaacBickerstaffEsq 3 years ago
What can I say - age has nothing on second-hand knowledge (because Isaac is right - I wasn't actually alive at the time of the film)
Strannik01 3 years ago
priority of profit is a fault society.
mikhasya1976 2 years ago 3
Indeed, however; disregarding profit is a failure society.
IsaacBickerstaffEsq 2 years ago
LOL
I mean this is FUN:DDD What the hell are these Lada & other soviet "monsters" are doing in a Sci-Fi?!:D Then this isn't sci-fi, rather it's history...
AkelA984 3 years ago
oops, sorry for the realism
IonicWarrior 3 years ago
You'r fuckin dumb monster
jasiuss 3 years ago
A great scene indeed but to leave out what he cuts to at the end is to leave out the most important part, in my opinion. Tarkovsky then cuts to a huge tree in a forest which is dwarfing a human...the scene is one of complete beauty and serenity...
fearofjazz 3 years ago
I give this awe-inspiring clip 5 stars because it is a magnificent scene which I could never hope to replicate in any way.
Ralviisch 3 years ago 2
In what way is this clip "awe inspiring" to you? I'm curious.
lezxotic 3 years ago
the actual outer-space stuff isn't as...spacey.
sakara18235 3 years ago
Wow, at gasoline close or over $4 gallon, they would've spent a fortune if they filmed this scene today!!!!
taclas1 3 years ago 6
You're reading my mind. This was the era of cheap gas.
LeoHareMusic 3 years ago 2
..but on the other hand, perhaps gasoline could be so cheap, and car engines so efficient, in the Solaris future, that gasoline is .455 cents a gallon and the mileage of the cars in this video clip are 100 miles to the gallon? I believe this is called "science fiction"???!!!
taclas1 3 years ago 3
Maybe $10? This scene wasn't staged. They're just driving around and filming in normal traffic. Other people paid for the gas in the other cars.
IsaacBickerstaffEsq 3 years ago
i hope anyone watching this has already seen it in its proper context in the film... i was deeply 'shaken' by it the first time i saw it... totally unexpected. i felt like i was having a nightmare by the end of it, totally lost sense of time!
theratking 4 years ago 4
Looks like something Chris Marker would've done for Sans Soleil. Except the parts with the father and daughter.
Mbyo1 4 years ago
masterpiece
Hasjarl 4 years ago 4
this is tokyo Expressway（Shuto Expressway）
buryoryo 4 years ago 16
This is an amazingly hypnotic scene....
GoblinGirl 4 years ago 17
I prefer the older term for this scene:
Mesmerizing.
IsaacBickerstaffEsq 3 years ago
"2001" is not dehumanising. And it's a very emotional film.
Either way, "2001" and "Solyaris" are both masterpieces. And they have stood the test of time. :)
Transformers217 4 years ago 7
Christ, I feel like I'm on the Cross Bronx Expressway...
EatMan167 4 years ago
Wasn't this scene originally in color?
tensebovine 4 years ago
woa.. was this filmed in tokyo? the street signs were in japanese.
c0ri 4 years ago
yes, it was filmed in japan. Tarkovsky and his crew had to fight through a lot of Soviet red tape to get permission to go there and film.
dukehillsborough 4 years ago 4
It doesn't seem to you that he is referencing the 'Jupiter and beyond the infinite' SPFX scene from 2001 a space odyssey?
nostromoau 4 years ago