Jafro, I am about to build a C.O.P. Identical to yours. Could you please tell me where you got the ARP bolts? I appreciate it and the video is very informative.
@bradikus7 Coil bolts are ARP 770-1002 SS 12-point M6x25mm UHL bolts. You need 2 packs.
Cap screws came with the JMF plate.
I bought a big bag of stainless M6 nuts (SUM-HK-M6CNANIZ), and assorted m6 washers (SUM-HK-25NMLWIZ, SUM-HK-25NILWIZ and a generic 25-pack of 1/4" SS washers) not knowing what would fit best. The loom materials, tape and fasteners all came from Summit Racing, and those are the exact part numbers I used. Wires are all dealer parts, more info in the description. (ツ) b
@Jafromobile Thank you for the reply. I just got back from Jegs, can't believe I just paid $32 for 10 bolts and washers haha. Oh well, at least it will look pretty.
@Blazen8gsx They're different lengths because I did a test fit with one coil installed prior to assembling anything. The standard Chrysler boots are not a perfect fit. You have to trim them. I've got a video for that, too.
@DaPobster Why would you say that? I included adequate warnings for expectations... that the coils are actually not as good as factory coils... There are justifiable reasons (sheetmetal intake manifolds) that justify using alternative ignition systems. Just sayin'.
Jafro i have a question you may be able to answer, provided you still have your old coil pack. Someone did a 6 bolt swap on my car and the coil pack was zip tied down, so in the process of fabbing a plate to mount the coil packs, i took them off of the stock 2g bracket. Well after i took them off i realized i forgot which was the 2-3 and which was the 4-1. On the back one coil has 2 red wires and a blue wire and the other has only 1 red wire. You dont happen to know which is which do you?
this is sweet...can you make one of these for me since it's worth it to me to just buy it and install it?? heck it only takes you less than 5 minutes to make...REALLY??
@shoprat48 Yes. Works on all '90-99 cars, but the wiring varies dependent on the phase of your ignition coil. Mine is wired for a '95-'96. All you have to do is swap the two trigger wires for the coils. Read the video info for places to find more info on this.
I got a CoP setup from a friend, my problem is I have a 6 bolt swap in my 97 GST, are you saying switch the blue and blue/black wires to run correctly?
@slugo17 There are other factors, like which CAS you have, which coil you were using prior to the swap, but I'd bet you're still using the 97 CAS and coil? If so, yes. My wiring is for a 95-96 style cam angle sensor. If you've done the ECU/coil rewire, I don't know how it's affected? If you want to reference it against others with your setup, all the info is on dsmtuners. Pages of it. For every configuration and with diagrams. All I did was film myself following those directions. :P
hi there would like to know what is the part number for the toyota wiring connectors (to connect with UF269 coils)? on your video time 0:04 where you left hand is holding.
@thorenonline All of the technical info and complete discussion of this modification is available at dsmtuners. I put this info in the video details. Search for thread number 290665. The Toyota connectors and wire leads are all listed in there, and once you find them you'll discover how ridiculously expensive they are new. I paid nearly $100 for all that stuff just because I refused to make them from used parts.
@Jafromobile thank you so much! found the parts details in dsmtuners and your step by step thread is being most helpful =)
have to admit mods never come cheap, especially pioneering something new trial and error really takes time and money.. luckily we found tech guru like u, cheers!
In the process of doing this myself, just have trouble understanding why the coils are wired in series (for running without CDI) but at the end you say no advantage unless you run CDI (which requires wiring in parallel) I,m not complaining just need help with my project, also how do I check my timing without being able to clamp on to a lead. Any help appreciated will be using M&W Pro12 CDI.:BG.
@bradsp1 From a car audio perspective I fully-understand your question about resistance. It seems as though it COULD affect dwell time. The method I used is referencing the 290665 post in dsmtuners. I bought all new stuff and didn't want to do this twice, so I used the method that worked for others. The reason this isn't an upgrade is because the factory coils are extremely powerful and have some of the shortest dwell times you'll easily find. A GSXR or 'busa coil might work better.
@bradsp1 For setting timing, see my Tuning 102 video Ng6llVYSq4w and around four-oh-six in that video I demonstrate how easy it is to do this, and how unnecessary this is on most DSMs. If your setup has a crank angle sensor, you never need to set timing because that's where it's pulling your spark timing from, and you can't adjust it. It's always right. But the video explains how to hook up your timing light so that it works correctly. It's easy.
@CamCommandatore I appreciate your interest in it. I'm not in the parts supply business because of risks involved. The time and materials are expensive, and since the procedure and parts needed to do this are all in the video... there's no reason you can't do this yourself and save what I would charge to do this for somebody else. It costs over $500 to do this with new parts and an ignition amplifier as it is... I'm just here to give you motivation! :P
My number 4 cylinder decided to crap out on me. I put a new coil pack there and swapped with a known good one and still nada. I've decided to just rewire the whole thing from scratch. Another one of your vids helping me out, thanks brother.
@RubberDuckieXcore The plate was $135, the new coils were $160, the new wiring harnesses and connectors were $90 from Toyota, the fasteners were $70 from Summit, and the Dynatek capacative ignition discharge box was $260 from eBay.
@RubberDuckieXcore ROFL. Nah no need to do all that. You can pull the coils and wiring harnesses from a dodge intrepid in a junkyard, make your own plate. My fasteners were expensive only because I used ARP 12-point blingy polished stuff to match the valve cover that I didn't even get to use. You don't need super-expensive new stuff to do this. But without that CDI box, it really isn't an upgrade. Thanks for the compliments.
Yeah, I'll admit I didn't know what I was getting into supporting-mod-wise for the Magnus intake manifold. It cost me 3x as much as the manifold to redesign my vacuum system, add the coil-on-plug and get all the stainless steel polished hardware to install everything. Sometimes I go overboard with aesthetics for the GSX.
You CAN get these coils and wiring out of a junkyard, make your own plate, and pull it off for 1/3 of the cost vs. what's in this video.
Yeah I have seen the budget alternatives. Don't get me wrong that plate looks amazing. A piece of sheet metal cut to fit the coils looks like ass compared to that beauty queen.
Well... thank you! Thank you VERY much! If I wasn't building this car for the sake of other people's enjoyment, that's what I would have done, so your comment is well received!
This car is a total garage queen. It doesn't get driven in the rain or snow, and now that the roads are salted, it will spend its winter indoors. In many ways, people with a polycarbonate or sheetmetal plate are better off because you can drive it and work on it without having to care what it looks like.
If you look in the info section of the video, there are 2 part numbers for a Toyota dealer to reference. They can get you all the pieces. :) You have to assemble them like in the video.
Jafro, I am about to build a C.O.P. Identical to yours. Could you please tell me where you got the ARP bolts? I appreciate it and the video is very informative.
bradikus7 1 month ago
@bradikus7 Coil bolts are ARP 770-1002 SS 12-point M6x25mm UHL bolts. You need 2 packs.
Cap screws came with the JMF plate.
I bought a big bag of stainless M6 nuts (SUM-HK-M6CNANIZ), and assorted m6 washers (SUM-HK-25NMLWIZ, SUM-HK-25NILWIZ and a generic 25-pack of 1/4" SS washers) not knowing what would fit best. The loom materials, tape and fasteners all came from Summit Racing, and those are the exact part numbers I used. Wires are all dealer parts, more info in the description. (ツ) b
Jafromobile 1 month ago
@Jafromobile Thank you for the reply. I just got back from Jegs, can't believe I just paid $32 for 10 bolts and washers haha. Oh well, at least it will look pretty.
bradikus7 1 month ago
why are the boots on the coils different lengths?
Blazen8gsx 3 months ago
@Blazen8gsx They're different lengths because I did a test fit with one coil installed prior to assembling anything. The standard Chrysler boots are not a perfect fit. You have to trim them. I've got a video for that, too.
Jafromobile 3 months ago
smh.. PLEASE NO ONE DO THIS!
DaPobster 4 months ago
@DaPobster Why would you say that? I included adequate warnings for expectations... that the coils are actually not as good as factory coils... There are justifiable reasons (sheetmetal intake manifolds) that justify using alternative ignition systems. Just sayin'.
Jafromobile 4 months ago
Very clean, nice job!
Synthetik90 8 months ago
Jafro i have a question you may be able to answer, provided you still have your old coil pack. Someone did a 6 bolt swap on my car and the coil pack was zip tied down, so in the process of fabbing a plate to mount the coil packs, i took them off of the stock 2g bracket. Well after i took them off i realized i forgot which was the 2-3 and which was the 4-1. On the back one coil has 2 red wires and a blue wire and the other has only 1 red wire. You dont happen to know which is which do you?
coheed0000 9 months ago
I posted on tuners 2 times and noone replied and i figured since you took several hours to make the video you may know it by heart lol.
coheed0000 9 months ago
would have been helpful if the damn vid was slower....
Dasithkg 11 months ago
@Dasithkg lol. Thankyousir. It's not an instructional video... it's a motivational video.
The info on this video contains the DSMtuners thread number where you'll find the instructions.
Jafromobile 11 months ago
@Jafromobile lol its says "HOW TO".... good stuff anyway. :)
Dasithkg 11 months ago
this is sweet...can you make one of these for me since it's worth it to me to just buy it and install it?? heck it only takes you less than 5 minutes to make...REALLY??
jeffm26 11 months ago
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jeffm26 11 months ago
would this work on 1gs tsi
shoprat48 1 year ago
@shoprat48 Yes. Works on all '90-99 cars, but the wiring varies dependent on the phase of your ignition coil. Mine is wired for a '95-'96. All you have to do is swap the two trigger wires for the coils. Read the video info for places to find more info on this.
Jafromobile 1 year ago
I got a CoP setup from a friend, my problem is I have a 6 bolt swap in my 97 GST, are you saying switch the blue and blue/black wires to run correctly?
slugo17 1 year ago
@slugo17 There are other factors, like which CAS you have, which coil you were using prior to the swap, but I'd bet you're still using the 97 CAS and coil? If so, yes. My wiring is for a 95-96 style cam angle sensor. If you've done the ECU/coil rewire, I don't know how it's affected? If you want to reference it against others with your setup, all the info is on dsmtuners. Pages of it. For every configuration and with diagrams. All I did was film myself following those directions. :P
Jafromobile 1 year ago
hi there would like to know what is the part number for the toyota wiring connectors (to connect with UF269 coils)? on your video time 0:04 where you left hand is holding.
your help is very much appreciated =)
thorenonline 1 year ago
@thorenonline All of the technical info and complete discussion of this modification is available at dsmtuners. I put this info in the video details. Search for thread number 290665. The Toyota connectors and wire leads are all listed in there, and once you find them you'll discover how ridiculously expensive they are new. I paid nearly $100 for all that stuff just because I refused to make them from used parts.
Jafromobile 1 year ago
@Jafromobile thank you so much! found the parts details in dsmtuners and your step by step thread is being most helpful =)
have to admit mods never come cheap, especially pioneering something new trial and error really takes time and money.. luckily we found tech guru like u, cheers!
thorenonline 1 year ago
In the process of doing this myself, just have trouble understanding why the coils are wired in series (for running without CDI) but at the end you say no advantage unless you run CDI (which requires wiring in parallel) I,m not complaining just need help with my project, also how do I check my timing without being able to clamp on to a lead. Any help appreciated will be using M&W Pro12 CDI.:BG.
bradsp1 1 year ago
@bradsp1 From a car audio perspective I fully-understand your question about resistance. It seems as though it COULD affect dwell time. The method I used is referencing the 290665 post in dsmtuners. I bought all new stuff and didn't want to do this twice, so I used the method that worked for others. The reason this isn't an upgrade is because the factory coils are extremely powerful and have some of the shortest dwell times you'll easily find. A GSXR or 'busa coil might work better.
Jafromobile 1 year ago
@bradsp1 For setting timing, see my Tuning 102 video Ng6llVYSq4w and around four-oh-six in that video I demonstrate how easy it is to do this, and how unnecessary this is on most DSMs. If your setup has a crank angle sensor, you never need to set timing because that's where it's pulling your spark timing from, and you can't adjust it. It's always right. But the video explains how to hook up your timing light so that it works correctly. It's easy.
Jafromobile 1 year ago
ill buy one off you... pm me if interested
CamCommandatore 1 year ago
@CamCommandatore I appreciate your interest in it. I'm not in the parts supply business because of risks involved. The time and materials are expensive, and since the procedure and parts needed to do this are all in the video... there's no reason you can't do this yourself and save what I would charge to do this for somebody else. It costs over $500 to do this with new parts and an ignition amplifier as it is... I'm just here to give you motivation! :P
Jafromobile 1 year ago
My number 4 cylinder decided to crap out on me. I put a new coil pack there and swapped with a known good one and still nada. I've decided to just rewire the whole thing from scratch. Another one of your vids helping me out, thanks brother.
redi4axion 1 year ago
ahhhhhhhhh that's HOT! what kind of music is this? Sounds like cowboy bebop stuff
JulianVR4 1 year ago
how much did this cost you to do?
RubberDuckieXcore 1 year ago
@RubberDuckieXcore The plate was $135, the new coils were $160, the new wiring harnesses and connectors were $90 from Toyota, the fasteners were $70 from Summit, and the Dynatek capacative ignition discharge box was $260 from eBay.
Jafromobile 1 year ago
holymoly!
I guess I have to make due with the ghetto wires I got now... that or sell drugs! haha=]
Love the videos jafro! your car is SEX on wheels!
RubberDuckieXcore 1 year ago
@RubberDuckieXcore ROFL. Nah no need to do all that. You can pull the coils and wiring harnesses from a dodge intrepid in a junkyard, make your own plate. My fasteners were expensive only because I used ARP 12-point blingy polished stuff to match the valve cover that I didn't even get to use. You don't need super-expensive new stuff to do this. But without that CDI box, it really isn't an upgrade. Thanks for the compliments.
Jafromobile 1 year ago
That plate looks awesome but god damn are they expensive. wooooo
geemoney3333333 2 years ago
Yeah, I'll admit I didn't know what I was getting into supporting-mod-wise for the Magnus intake manifold. It cost me 3x as much as the manifold to redesign my vacuum system, add the coil-on-plug and get all the stainless steel polished hardware to install everything. Sometimes I go overboard with aesthetics for the GSX.
You CAN get these coils and wiring out of a junkyard, make your own plate, and pull it off for 1/3 of the cost vs. what's in this video.
Jafromobile 2 years ago
Yeah I have seen the budget alternatives. Don't get me wrong that plate looks amazing. A piece of sheet metal cut to fit the coils looks like ass compared to that beauty queen.
geemoney3333333 2 years ago
Well... thank you! Thank you VERY much! If I wasn't building this car for the sake of other people's enjoyment, that's what I would have done, so your comment is well received!
This car is a total garage queen. It doesn't get driven in the rain or snow, and now that the roads are salted, it will spend its winter indoors. In many ways, people with a polycarbonate or sheetmetal plate are better off because you can drive it and work on it without having to care what it looks like.
Jafromobile 2 years ago
hey where did you score those coil harnesses ? did they come with the new coils ? if not please let me know where i can find them.
phoenixsmerk 2 years ago
If you look in the info section of the video, there are 2 part numbers for a Toyota dealer to reference. They can get you all the pieces. :) You have to assemble them like in the video.
Jafromobile 2 years ago
Correction: The info for where to find the info is in the video info. Go to DSMtuners and search the forums for the post number that's listed.
Jafromobile 2 years ago
nice video man!
Nemesisracing2009 2 years ago
awesome work.
mahkamfu 2 years ago
DAMN THAT IS A KICK ASS VIDEO U DID MAN..
dsmturbo97 2 years ago
kick ass
watchforfinger 2 years ago
I'm liking what you're doing with your vids man. You're helping the DSM world out. Keep it up.
jjrock5 2 years ago
Looks Damn good man!
Running925 2 years ago
good video
MindBl0ck 2 years ago
wow dude amazing work man
DIRTYEVO 2 years ago