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  • they found brabdon lol.

  • good riddance 

  • Chiodos became fucking sexier and now D.R.U.G.S. is in existence.

    All this fangirl rage now makes you all look like bitches.

  • you should really take this video down. they are truly better than ever now.

  • Yesterdays Rising is one of the most underrated bands ever. Good combo

  • Craig was always an ok singer but he was also kinda a scenester douche to kids. just watch how he keeps himself on stage. Brandon is much humbler and a better song writer over all. good move Chiodos. great move actually.

  • Illuminaudio Album rocks, have you heard "let us burn one" ?

    If anything i think chiodos' new sound is better.

  • Wht are some songs from the old chiodos& some from the new because i wanna compare them. I only know baby, you wouldn't last a minute on the creek acoustic& I LOVE IT SOOO MUCH.

  • @aSpEnWuVsYeW, Every song from Chiodos in the time of Craig Owens was brilliant pieces of art, and it's not just the voice and instrumentals. The lyrics of Craig Owens are words that carve into my very being. Words like his should never be forgotten. After listening to their new stuff, though, I just don't understand the significance of what is being said.

  • @TheAlexANGST Ohh but may you please name some specific song, like perhaps your favorites . ? But thank you. (;

  • @aSpEnWuVsYeW, "Baby, You Wouldn't Last A Minute On The Creek", of course, "Lindsay Quit Lollygaggin", "Teeth The Size Of Piano Keys", "Two Birds Stoned At Once", "Is It Progression If A Cannibal Uses A Fork?", "Lexington", "Bulls Make Money, Bears Make Money, Pigs Get Slaughtered", "A Letter From Janelle", "I Didn't Say I Was Powerful, I Said I Was A Wizard", "Life Is A Perception Of Your Own Reality", "Intensity In Ten Cities", "The Undertaker's Thirst For Revenge Is Unquenchable", etc.

  • @TheAlexANGST Why thank you so very much and i will look them up right now and get back at you. (;

  • Sorry its been a while since ive listened dto chiodos why did they kick craig out

  • ya know its probably people who think like you that make chiodos not regret kicking craig out, about 90 percent of their fans had no appriciation for everything the other 5 people in chiodos did/do, so dont be their fan, im sure they dont miss you :) just listen to DRUGS cuz theyre not completely gay or anything ;)

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  • I feel like they should've just started a completely new band. Chiodos just isn't the same.

  • New Album rocks.

  • The only song I could listen to from Chiodos was a minute on the creek, and for some reason I can enjoy listening to their new album, a few times through. I do not think Craig Owens WAS Chiodos, and I think that Chiodos and Craig's new project will prosper, seeing as they both are coming out with good music.

  • yea craig was great but they still are good. learn to appreciate the new music they put out cuz its just as good, if not better. there is only so much a band can do before they have to call it quits or try something new like a new vocalist. Look at eyes set to kill for example. Lindsey quit and lexia moved to lead. they have more fans than they ever did. same thing with a skylit drive.

  • I really dont think its a big deal both bands are good now and chiodos is just as good now as they were with craig.

  • are you stupid? craig wasnt working out for the dynamic of the band obviously thats why he was kicked out. if you were a real fan you would understand that

  • @tocaMAMA10 He was kicked out becuase the band did not like his attitude pritty much.

  • Calm the hell down. Craig did make Chiodos, Chiodos. The new stuff is really good, even though I don't particularly like it.

  • I know this was a year ago, and maybe your opinion changed after their album without him, maybe not but either way, you are (or were) not a true fan of the band. The fact that the day it happened you said they let you down, is actually you letting them down as a fan. If you like a band respect the band. Sometimes they have to make decisions, and they don't exist for the sole purpose of entertaining you. They have their own stuff going on, and they have to deal with that, even if you don't agree.

  • Branden is good in Chiodos but I just heard D.R.U.G.S. first song out and its unbelivable. Pure sexiness.

  • dude there new vocalist is a boss

  • you sound like your inlove with him, ive seen them live countless times and everytime was amazing, but their new album kicks ass and true fans will stay with the band and also follow craigs new music

  • OK! somewhere on youtube there HAS to be someone making USEFUL freakin' videos about this. what if I want to find out how he got kicked out and how it all went down, huh? i couldn't care less about your stupid pissing and dumb oppinion on the matter. i wanna know the STORY!! can someone NOT bitch for once and please tell me where i can find out the facts about this?

  • new guy sounds perfect. bands new album is going to blow all of you skeptics out of the water

  • craig was shit, he sucked, and he's a p00sie

  • @MsSugarhigh DUDE GO FUCK YOUR MOM AND NEVER TALK ABOUT CRAIG OWENS LIKE THAT, OR ME AND 3,000 OTHER CRAIG OWENS FANS WILL HUNT YOU DOWN AND FORCE FEED YOU LIVE, VENOMOUS SCORPIONS BATHED IN YOUR DOGS FECES!!!!

  • @MsSugarhigh ever seen him live? didnt think so go fuck yourself

  • @MsSugarhigh fuck u

  • fuck you. chiodos isnt nothing without craig... theyre different. theres nothing wrong with that

  • i am so fucking pissed at chiodos. he was all they had. i will bet, anyone who is a true fan of chiodos will be on our side. fuck this shit

  • I love craig too, but he's got other things going for him now; like his solo project. And Chiodos new singer sounds almost like craig, so way to sound like a negative nancy. Sorry, but it takes more then one person to be a band, so I say, Chiodos is still Chiodos, with Craig or without Craig. I think it takes a true fan to accept the changes. so deal with it.

  • you guys have to give the new guy a chance. he is actually really good. not as good as Craig. but still hold up

  • if 'craig WAS chiodos', why were there other band members? you guys are stupid, craig owens dick riding losers who could probably really use a friend.

    friends are overrated though, right?when you cant make any they are, huh?

  • then you didnt like the band you liked the guy. if chiodos was your favorite band you would still like them

  • mmm ure a little girl bitch... a band IS a band, not a single person, yeah craig was an awesome vocalist but they want to move on an you'll se the great work they'll do.

    idiot.

  • @dargorseduque YOUR absolutley right

  • THANK GOD!!!!! Whew!!!! I thought this video actually had a point, I'm so relieved to see that it doesn't. I was worried for a second there that an actual band with actual talent had a problem. Thankfully it's just Chidos. Well, anyways all you people who like this band should suck some major HIV infested dicks. Please, for the world's sake fuck off and die.

  • @UnbornDreams

    You truely have some problems.

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  • how the fuck do you kick the "VOCALIST"!?!?!

    they're the voice of the band???

  • LMFAO

    shut up

  • a few years...more like a few months :( RIP CHIODOS

  • i totally agree

  • Looks like some1 has a crush on Craig Owens..

    Its a band..wtf..they wont be anything anymore without him ?!

    He's good but wtf man..

  • actually the new singer they found sounds ALOT like craig :o i saw them live Friday

  • Craig has amazing stage presence but honestly, he's over rated as a singer, I can name a shit load of singers who are a lot better than craig, sorry to say.

  • who is criag?

  • @lucasure wtf

  • if were making a band and needed a singer he would be the first on my list

  • Alright, Craig was Chiodos. Just his presence on stage was amazing. He made Chiodos fun to see. Just like Alex Gaskarth and Tom Delonge&Mark Hoppus make their bands fun to see. Craig was an amazing singer and a great writer. Chiodos won't be as good without him. I heard three new songs and the lyrics were terrible. Craig wasn't just a singer he was a performer, got the crowd in. As much as I like Matt Goddard, Pat McManaman, Jason Hale and Brad Bell; They won't be the same, or nearly as good.

  • @delonge182bcr ok i literally just came back from seeing chiodos live in cleveland, it sounded EXACTLY the same if not better without craig, so i dont mean to target you specifically, but all you haters need to stop fucking complaining about craig leaving if you havent heard anything with the new guy. oh and craig wasnt the only guy to write lyrics in the band. not every lead singer writes lyrics. im the guitarist and ive writen all the lyrics for the band im in

  • he's working with thomas erak formerly of the Fall of Troy

  • @progrockrulz yeah i would love to see that, it sounds like pure epicness XD

  • Ok.

  • Same thing happened to From First to Last. Sonny left and now they're only "meh" their new CD was decent but the self titled was terrible.

  • Lol, first Dance Gavin Dance, now Chiodos. WHY WHY T-T

  • ahh

  • dude are you fucking joking. one person doesn't make a band. he was great for them but they could find someone better then even Craig

  • But they didn't....

    Brandon Bolmer is good but Craig is 10 times better

  • Im sure Chiodos will be fine with out craig. As good of a vocalist as he is Chiodos will find somebody new.

  • I agree with every word.

  • Rip chiodos here comes another band about to be destroyed like escape the fate

  • or Scary Kids Scaring Kids :S

  • @xxXTRWLxxX dont forget Dance Gavin Dance and Emarosa

  • yup

  • @xxXTRWLxxX escape the fate is garbage, and I don't think they plan on taking Ronnie back either which is really upsetting. I can understand why but I just think it's a damn shame that he had to waste his life for his addictions.

  • almost everyone knows Craig was kicked out for stupid things. and yes, there are other band members who put a ton of effort into it. but Craig made them known. his voice is so unique. i could recognize it no matter what. even if i never heard the song before. i'm always going to be a Chiodos fan, but i will admit they're not going to be able to replace him. and they're not going to be as good.

    actually, i have a friend that knows him and he said that he thinks they're breaking up for good.:/

  • youre right about being able to recognize his voice but for some reason he reminds me of the lead of the band enter shikari...

  • nah they got the singer from thee armada, plus theyre playing bamboozle fest

  • i fucking hate when people only realize a band for the singer, i mean Craig was amazing, but everyone else in chiodos put in just as much, or more effort than him..

    And by the way, he was kicked out for drugs and stealing.

  • i can say only one thing - you're fucking wrong. chiodos wasn't ONLY Craig. there are people who write this music. Craig is singer - not composer.

    And what about "Craig is irreplaceable. They won't be able to find anyone with the vocal range like him" - I have WIDER vocal range than he. Don't trust? watch my vids.

    but here's the deal - you're so fucking wrong about his irreplaceable person.

  • Tyson Stevens may replace Craig

    Since Scary Kids Scaring Kids is breaking up

  • look okay im going to go ahead and say what i feel. craig owens wasnt chiodoes. without the band it would just be him singing in the quietness. he was kicked out because he was into drugs and tried to kill himself. he also tried to say that they need less screaming cause screaming isnt music. isk what stories yall have heard but mine is true. he deserved to get kicked out. and if you want to fuss at me ill fuss right back.

  • calling your bullshit, I've met himm 3 times and been to 47 shows and he once told me some of the most emmotion he has ever felt is the line" all ego's aside, what do you say.." during, Baby, you wouldnt... he told me that at The Chicago House of Blues. and who are u to say he shouldve got kicked out.that just shows that you want to have an opinion but have no idea what your saying.they never said why and an interview with matt said that it was because he had too many side projects. nothing else

  • Chiodos was craig, they need to jus change the name of the band, they can still be an amazing band, but there is no CHIODOS without craig. does that make sense?

  • Hey bro. Fuck you. One man doesn't make a fucking band. Craig was amazing, but still. They're still gonna be a band. A shit load of bands lose their frontman. And they're totally fine. They lost Derrick who was epic at drumming, but they still carried on and kicked ass. They aren't gonna be dead without Craig Owens.

  • the devil wears prada is like my fav band. and it doesnt mean they wont be a good band without him, they just wont be Chiodos. do you see what i mean? I think they should just change the name of the band bc craig WAS CHIODOS. they should jus start from scratch,they can still be good, jus not C hiodos.

  • You make it sound like its the end of the band though. Many people sing just as well as Craig. And they're all together sound makes them the Chiodos. Not him. Craig made it more distinct but dude, he's just a front man. They'll be fine. And they'll have the same wicked ass band they've had for years.

  • wow,your so fucking cool. i wont comment you back bc you obviously cant just have a normal conversation. Just saying it will never feel right for TRUE CHIODOS FANS. they will still be a great band, maybe just as good, just not fucking CHIODOS. jus needa change the name. if you dont like my opinion y bitch about it? like do you think I'm gonna change my mind bc you think ppl will like you if you bitch at me on fucking Youtube of all places?

  • I wasn't bitching? To me you just sound like they're fucked in the ass without Craig. I didn't mean to get you in a pissy mood. It might not be right to some Chiodos fans, but a real Chiodos band is stick up for them through hell dude. Even though fighting over YouTube is fucking stupid. I'm willing to say that no matter what I will be a Chiodos fan. And I respect everyones opinion. Even if I don't believe in it.

  • this is what everyone said about escape the fate

    they ended up being a pretty good band without ronnie

  • even though he was a huge part of the band, if you had the main part of your band constantly gone and doing his 98273 other projects, youd be a little fustrated. i can totally see why they would go to a new member.

  • LOL. whoever posted this video is an idiot. they can and probably will make another cd. there is no rule stating Chiodos cannot make another album without Craig.

    yes, he is a good singer,and yes, he has stage presence, but then again so do hundreds upon thousands of other people.

    Craig was the "face" of the band, simply because he's a "cute" front man. Same with Alex of All Time Low.

    They'll still make music. True fans will accept them for who they are. If not, go find another "hot trend".

  • OH! And also this gives you a great opportunity to move on, because really Chiodos isn't that good. I moved on from them a long time ago when i realized all their songs sound a lot alike.

  • Hey to the maker, Chiodos didn't "throw it's fans under the bus". Craig Owens did. He quit the band, they didn't kick him out. At least 3 times, he said he was quitting but came back, and this time it was serious. Get your shit right.

  • well im sure theres someone with craigs vocal range, it still wont be the same tho, what would be hard is to find a guy with the vocal range of jag from a skylit drive.

  • i think they should start all over because Craig is Chiodos...being lead singer makes him the face of the band, i think they should find a new singer and drummer, then change their name cause they lost the beats and voice of their original sound xDD ugh... i hate it when bands start to die D*:

  • why would you like a band just because of their singer? don't get me wrong, I can't imagine them without craig but I will still give them a chance to show what they have. not only was it craig's voice, but the instrumental was great it'sself. they just need to find someone that will match them as well as how high craig set the bar. if you were a true fan, you'd understand and accept the changes they are going through

  • how the hell is chiodos gonna survive without craig owens??!!! theres no one like him...not that i know of anyways..i only fear that chiodos will lose alot of fans and will never be as great as it once was =[ i am willing to give this new chiodos a try but im not sure im gonna like it as much....

  • craig owens is hitler and chiodoos is way better off without him

  • @mattnsky667 chraig owens is chiodos they will suck balls without him

  • the guy who made this video is a toolbag and its gonna be funny when chiodos gets a sick singer and youre still on youre computer being a pussy and having no life. good job.

  • i heard he was a pile of shit and he was a dick so he probably deserved it, i've been there with bands before.

  • i concur

  • ok, i agree that chiodos letting go of craig was a huge mistake. but i am excited to see whatever twist the new singer brings to the band. and wherever craig ends up im sure will be awesome. i just hope he focuses on one band instead of a hundred side projects

  • sonny moore leavin fftl was the end of fftl

    then ronnie radke from etf there good but not the same

    and now this WTF chiodos wont be the same,,,chiodos is still fuckin ill without him anyways

  • nooooo way, matt good started FFTL and sonny came and left, and matt took back over lead vocals and is doing a damn good job. i mean ya FFTL has changed but every one of their cds is diffrent. u cant say FFTL is dead, you have to give matt props for holding it together, and have you heard there now DEMO 2?!?!? its badass check it out on FFTLs myspace

  • Its actually kinda sad that now that Craig's gone everybody hates Chiodos. Craig WAS the face of Chiodos, which is sad. I believe they can go on without him only if they can find a new fanbase, which will be damn near impossible.

  • Kinda like how Brett Favre signed with the Vikings on my birthday. :(

  • gahh;

    that sucksss

    and...

    go patriots!

    ..... ravens vs. colts this weekend

    :D

  • You are so gay. They Kicked him out for doing drugs. . and if you think hes the heart and soul of chiodos. you must be mistaken, go listen to cinematic sunrise he's in that band and like 4 other ones. Chiodos was not made by Craig Owens. the whole band has a part in making it. craig owens is just an amazing singer. not the heart and soul of the band. im not even trying to be mean but dude you got your facts twisted.

  • sorry but lmfao if you ask any chiodos fan what they like most about chiodos they aren't going to say "JASONS GEETAR!!11" they're going to say craigs singing.. now that he's gone, they're fucked. Admit it.

  • They also kicked him out because he had so many fucking side projects, he wasn't concentrating on Chiodos anymore. I'd kick him out too if that was the case. I love Cinematic Sunrise tho!

  • which have also now split up :(

  • SONOFABITCH!

  • Shut up wearesuarez. The singer is just as important as the band. They have to have vocal range, correct pitches, and so on. Craig was amazing, and it's more than likely they will never be as great as they once were.

  • lol only little fucking kidz admire only the fucking lead singer.....if you appreciate muzik or are a muzician yourzelf you know it'z the band that doez alot of the work ezpecially the drummer.....so for all you idiotz that juzt praize the singer growup and learn......alzoooooooo chiodoz muzik iz for little kidz so it makez senze you guyz are on the singerz dick......

  • Ya man. Kidz are zo immature and ztuff.

  • thankzzzzzzzzzz for admmitting itzzzzzzzzzzz......lol you wouldnt have rezponded if it didnt effect you.....how doez it feel to be on bandz dickzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........by the way everytime i write a comment i wait for the small minded people to rezpond with zzzzzzzzz commentz lol....typical

  • 1. You can say the drummer is the one that is responsible for the music, but either way, Chiodos kicked out their drummer at the beginning of the year too.

    2. If you ever find me a little kid that is capable of understanding the lyrics or appreciating the music of Chiodos, I'd like to meet them. It's far from music made for kids.

    3. If you have any problem with their music, why the hell are you even defending them?

    4. Get a life

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  • imo chiodos should come up with a totally different name and lable themselves as a totally new band, because their instruments are also good if you guys would pay attention to them

  • I dont think the band understands it.

    noone knew "Chiodos"

    they knew "Craig Owens and the guys who played instruments for his orgasmic singing"

    he made them

    most of their fans were drawn to them by his voice

    like me

  • personally wat made chiodos the band they are was his Craig's voice. Without his uniquely amazing voice they are nothing and will fade into the mainstream

  • Agree with this vid. Craig Owens WAS CHIODOS. They are retarded. this is like circa survive kicking out anthony green, or the fall of troy kicking out Thomas Erak. ridiculous.

  • There are many vocalists out there who can parallel craig. Chiodos will be fine. Stop being such a wining pussy. Fuck you.

  • Craig put the "C" in Chiodos D:

  • so true i thought the exact same thing.

    i was SOO sad/pissed when i found out.....

    its like i need a new favorite band.

    :'(....

  • if they come out with new songs i swear i won't listen to them if its without craig their so dumb for kicking him i will hate chiodos without craig

  • craig was chiodos and now they sucked idk why they kicked him out if he was such a good singer

  • all nereids beware

  • and jonny and craig are supposedly wiked close...that prolly wouldnt be good...personally i think they should kidnap jag from askylitdrive

  • I am just wondering who are you that you are an expert on music. There are plenty of singers like him out there minus the douchebagness... while he is an amazing singer saying he basically was the band is an insult to a group of some very talented men. There are plenty of bands with very similar singers who haven't sold nearly as many records, so that must obviously tell you something. and to XUNRS jonny craig is an INCREDIBLE vocalist, it just wouldn't fit tho...

  • craig was one of the most polite guys i've ever met i love his vocals as well as johnny craig but he is a douche...and chiodos was made by craig and they won't be as good without him...if good at all. it'll never be the same

  • A generation of pre-adolescent boys now have no one to sing with D: There instrumentals have always been awesome, Owens will move on and give fans something to listen to, this is just how life works. Just gotta move on

  • Instrumentals are NOT what made this band.

  • i disagree

  • i think their better off without him really hes not that much of anything

  • craig should totaly join from first to last now haha

  • this video is so fucking one-sided, it's sickening.

    sure, craig had a nice voice, but do you know what it's like to be with him 24/7 for most of the year? what if he's a complete asshole? do you want to work with an asshole for THAT long?

    i'm sure the rest of chiodos had a reason to kick him out, they didn't just "throw all of their fans under the bus" like you condescendingly put it.

    grow up, and move on. craig's not in chiodos, so what. you're honestly blind if you didn't see it coming...

  • for anyone who doesnt know, craig has the rep of being a HUGE douchebag, and a band cant work if personalities dont click it sucks but you guys talk like chiodos doesnt know everything your saying and the consequences of kicking craig out, theirs obviously a good reason, craig will probably start something knew and it will probably be good, chiodos might die or maybe they'll find a different sound and just be totally knew all together either way im excited to hear new things from both sides

  • hi just thought i'd let everyone know that jonny craig is a far better vocalist than craig owens, cheers

  • true

  • loser.. jonny craig is awesome and everything but why would you come on a craig owens video about him getting kicked out and say thats.. its stupid

  • craig owens is and was chiodos. they are nothing without him. nobody they ever find to fill his spot will be half as good. this is bigger than johny craig leaving dgd. bigger than anthony green leaving saosin or dallas taylor leaving underoath. no one will replace craig owens. they committed band suicide by doing this. chiodos is not a band anymore as far as im concerned. ther drummer left and now this. pathetic

  • chiodos is fucked

  • they're so fucking dumb he made the band.

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  • im so glad i saw them at warped.camden<3 they wont ever be the same though

  • can someone post a link or tell me the TRUTH about what happened? i'd like it to be confirmed because shit really gets out of hand on youtube

  • There is a blog on their myspace page.

  • It's like kicking Jack Black out of Tenacious D, were that possible.

  • only good will come of this

  • this is such bullshit. i hate when one member "is" the band. and maybe have you stopped to think that theyve considered all this and decided that even with all these loss of fans that it was worth it? to work with someone who isnt there for the music at all or whatever reason will kill your creative process and ruin your band. no one person is a band. they will still make music and you can like it or hate it but at least appreciate that theyre doing it for a reason.

  • i agree with you on most parts but when it comes to chiodos and craigs godly voice its just irreplacable

  • you suck donkey dick for going on videos just to hate on them. Fuck You.

  • Amen.

  • austin is in of mice and men now and on his twitter said there is no way he "wouldn't leave of mice & men to join chiodos or any other band in the world"

  • thats becuase he is under legal contract to give 2 albums under rise records, someday come suddenly was one, now he has to finish another album with another band before he can be a freelance guy.

  • true...

    of mice and men just finished recording their full length a few weeks ago and its gonna be out in winter so i guess we'll have to see if he stays with them or goes to chiodos. i dont think he'd be a good fit with chiodos since he doesn't sing but thats just my opinion

  • Theres rumors that Austin Carlile from Attack Attack! is the new singer of chiodos?? please someone help me confirm this?

  • d00d ur so right.

  • I don't agree that Craig WAS Chiodos but he certainly was a huge part of the band. And we don't know WHY he was kicked out yet. But I agree he was a HUGE part if the band. And yes all Bradley, Pat, Jason, Matthew arfe great musicians. Listen to the mUSIC...they're amazing...but Craig was such an ingrained image in Chiodos it'll be hard to think of Chiodos as Chiodos without him. Idk...this is all killing me. I don't know if I should be mad at the band or what. I just feel TERRIBLE for Craig.

  • i really dont feel bad at all for craig. he turned into an arrogant prick. he was trying to make money thats about it.

  • Wow you my sir are a complete idiot..Im talking about the vid btw. Seriously i thought craig killed the band computerized voice and fry screaming for the loss.

  • most of the so called 'talented ' vocalists like craig owens and anthony green that you guys are going on about are pretty overrated. If you want talent look no further than james mercer and ben gibbard. You won't find them being kicked out or resorting to drugs either.

  • that has to be the single most ignorant and retarded comment i've ever seen, you not only drug yourself down but ben gibbard aswell. he has done works with both of the "over-rated" singers you just talked about. anthony green is beloved by his fans because he is true to what he writes, his vocal range is unheard of. Craig owen tried screaming, so what? oh well if its not the same old junk then i just don't wana listen to it,new? fuck new. i'd rather listen to the same old shit ben gibbard writes

  • circa survive only did one good album, on letting go was rubbish and his vocals at the sydney show were even worse. I"m a fan of the indie era death cab for cutie, not plans or narrow stairs.

  • yea not so sure I agree with that comment, to me on letting go was great. not as good as juturna but still very good, and hey everyone has a bad show every once in a while, even this guy

    o and as for death cab they're fuckin great

  • very well said mate

  • Totally blows, I actually told Jonny Craig from Emarosa. He had no idea.

  • its true that chiodos won't be the same anymore but that doesn't mean that craig WAS chiodos. clearly, you weren't a true fan.

    its nice to know you probably don't know that Jason, Matthew, Bradley, and Patrick are AMAZING musicians.