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  • the quality of your video is so poor that is unwatchable. I felt like I was high!

  • Hah, the Shakespeare bit (plus your introduction to it) was awesome.

  • He is a professional educator at the Aquinas Academy.  His class on Ax or Ask is probably the one right before the class on Intelligent Design.

  • Riiiight. That deals with my points how exactly?

  • I think it says something to the irony of teaching proper english while employed by an institution that doesn't teach proper science.

    Since you press however, I would say I ain't got a major problem with your points.

  • Ahh, I see what you're saying now.

  • hmm. I'm on my way to go see part two, but I think your going a bit too deep into this... while I'll agree that there is no such thing as 'proper vs. improper' English outside of the written 'rules', I agree with educating a more understandable and... 'formal', if you will, way of pronunciation. Even if these kids choose to talk however they want, they are still being educated of another way- which is never a bad thing.

  • It's a knotty issue, no dout. However, the issue isn't whether kids should be taught Standard American English or different "registers". Course they should. The issue is whether kids should be treated like retards simply for speaking a different dialect of English to the teacher, a dialect which is (unsoundly) looked down upon.

  • The other main related issue is whether their dialect is in some way base or not. I say not.

  • Hmmm ... which register of English spells "doubt" the way you spelled it?

  • None. Obviously. :P It is my eccentric spelling scheme. :) A spelling scheme I do not encourage my students to use, by the way. I am a professional 8)

  • And it just might come in handy if they ever choose to have a career in... customer service, hospitality, communications, sales, the list goes on. Your chances of getting hired in a position like that drop dramatically if the general public can't understand you. I certainly don't speak and write perfect all the time, but I know how to talk in a presentable, respectful fashion for, say... a job interview, a sale, etc.

    Okay... on to part two I go...

  • The moving finger writes, and having writ moves on--Kahlil Gibran.

  • not Kahlil Gibran.

    It is Omar Khayam

  • oh my gosh, you are correct! I read so much of Gibran and Rumi that I got mixed up. Glad I'm not teaching Lit :)

  • did you hear, they are thinking of dumbing down english in england to relate to kids today. i.e. text will be spelled txt. later with be spelled l8ter perhaps.

    also, i doubt kids today are actually listering to shakesphere anymore, i doubt they will notice the contradictions.

  • I was alluding to a wider problem in education, really.

  • Language has developed somewhat since the times of Shakespeare - there are various dialects around the UK, but there is also received/proper English that is supposed to be "standard". BBC English. If there´s no standard we´ll all be talk like the white kids in south London who talk twatois because it is in vogue just at the moment.

  • lol "we´ll all be talking" (correction)

  • Ah yes, but who said there shouldn't be a standard (altho I object to the term "proper" English)? Did you watch the original vid, out of interest? :D

  • BTW, "twatois" is the BEST WORD EVER. :D

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