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  • I wish my problems where so simple.

  • How dare you impose your ridiculous views on other people by removing other peoples reference materials. You should do some research before you post such uninformed views. Phonebooks are made from SAW DUST and printed with SOY ink. If you were so dedicated to the environment should have ridden your bike on your crusade instead of wasting gas.

  • @ravaej01 I think you're confusing reference materials with unsolicited advertising, which is also known as spam. In this case, an insidious printed form that clogs landfills.

    As my video illustrates, an easy way to lower the environmental impact of yellow pages is to simply honor the requests of people who choose to opt-out, like I did. Sadly, Yellowbook failed to honor my request. And failed AGAIN the following year.

    Opt-out incompetence? Indeed.

  • OMG! Are you serious. Do you realize that people really do use the book still? Maybe you are making sure that people don't have a way of calling their doctor or attorney after being hit in the head by a flying phone book. You should be sued for the money wasted by hundreds of people who do advertise their goods & services & people who make a ton of money each and every day from Yellowbook. Apparently you think everyone trusts the internet. Good thing your address isn't shown! LITTER BUG!!!

  • @Gardening558 Which book? All three that were spammed in Minneapolis in 2009?

    As the video illustrates, advertisers are being screwed by Yellowbook by paying to advertise in books that are being delivered to people who have taken the time to call and opt-out of deliveries. That's bad for advertisers, the environment, and Yellowbook's bottom line.

    If Yellowbook simply lived up to its own promises, this video wouldn't have been made.

  • As a business owner who is very conscientious about how effective my spent advertising dollars are, I can say with 100% certainy that Yellowbook is the biggest waste of money out there for an advertiser in the book. So I hate Yellowbook too but for other reasons that you do. With that said, I think you are an idiot who crossed the line by collecting other people's books, whether you think they wanted them or not, to dump at their office. You should have just threw your own book on the lawn.

  • @mikeamato100 It's interesting that you seem to have no problem with unsolicited littering, but oppose unsolicited removal of Yellowbook's print spam. 

  • I understand the frustration over requesting to be removed from the distribution list and then getting another phone book the next year. But to gather up a bunch of phone books and dump them on the front lawn of the business? Two wrongs don't make a right.

    Wouldn't it have been more effective to have brought the phone books to an actual person who works for the company? What does dumping them all on the lawn prove? At most, they're going to think it was some teenagers playing a prank.

  • @dailyfbo I figured it would be worth taking a different approach after asking nicely didn't work.

    The books I collected had been sitting out for a day on people's steps, and the offices were closed on the day I brought back the books, which explains why I didn't talk to someone. This did not wake them up, as I got YET ANOTHER print spam directory from Yellowbook the following year.

    Why can't Yellowbook live up to their own promises?

  • @dailyfbo Two wrongs don't make a right. But they made a point. A point that Yellowbook failed to get since they still spammed my home the follow year. Slow learners.

    Rather than criticize my tactics, why not work with Yellowbook to be better corporate citizens?

  • insulting all the hard work that goes into a phonebook. Oh yeah by the way I'm sure another will be sitting there next year.

  • @joshpatell9191 Yes. Once again, Yellowbook did fail to live up to their promise not to deliver their spam to my home. So, once again, I made a video documenting the company's incompetence. If they treat advertisers as poorly as the people they spam, it must be a nightmare to deal with this company.

  • every book you see for miles???? Dude that's dumb you didn't prove anything to them. Yellowbook rents an office in that park or building. They rent that spot whoever the owner is will be paying out minimum wage to somebody for about 15 minutes to pick those up. Seriously grow up if you don't use it walk your ass the 15 feet to the door pick it up and throw it away instead of making an ass outta yourself. A lot of my best friends support their families by working for yellowbook instead of

  • @joshpatell9191 Thanks for taking the time to share your opinions on this. If Yellowbook lived up to the promises they make to people who choose to opt-out, videos like this wouldn't end up on YouTube.

  • Dude seriously I worked at yellowbook for seven years in sales. Your a typical average person and don't understand how it all works. Yellowbook pays independent contractors out at a per book rate in some cases. You have to understand a lot of these people do this once a life time or at best once a year. Mistakes happen man. Take a pill. Then you talk about "the trouble" of picking it up and throwing it away. Please!!!!! You just took the time to drive all the way to a distribution spot picking

  • @joshpatell9191 I understand how it works. I used to deliver the books back when people had home phones. Addresses could select to have more than one, or less than one. Delivery contractors were held accountable for accuracy. At least, that's how it worked for the company I worked for, which was obviously not Yellowbook.

  • You are a loser, get a job and quick stealing books off porches. I agree with rescommm74326, i be this guy got fired from yellowbook cause he cant sell!

  • @jdproctor23, am I setting the bar too high by asking Yellowbook to live up to their own promises?

  • You are a loser, get a job and quick stealing books off porches. I agree with rescommm74326

  • Dude, I work at Yellowbook. You're such an idiot. Find better things to do with your time. Maybe try and make some friends.

  • @petejt1983 thanks for the tip. If I could offer one to you: See if you can get your company to live up to the promises it makes. I think that's a reasonable request. Agreed?

  • I'm sure the 7 people who read your blog will actually care. As for me, I couldn't care less. Why not spend your time doing something positive, like, perhaps, getting a job? Or, better yet, a life?

  • what makes you crazy is the fact that you have no life and spend your days looking for ways to rip holes in people. youre a fuckig loser.

  • @rescommm74326 When Yellowbook promises to stop spamming my home with directories, then fails to live up to their (or, your?) promises, it's hard to resist pointing out Yellowbook's incompetence.

    Are you the same guy who peed on an Idearc office?

  • @rescommm74326 it looks like you work for Yellowbook. That explains your motivation. I wrote up a little summary on my blog of what I found in a few minutes of searching. Try Googling your username together with mine, like this "rescommm74326 thedeets" to find it.

  • You should open one of those books up and find yourself a Psychiatrist. You need help.

  • @rescommm74326 does it make me crazy to expect Yellowbook to live up to the promises they make?

  • Really..? this is so lame. I 've thought about visiting minnesota at some point, but not if it's THAT boring up there. you're ugly too

  • @Ajean821 Instead of making ad hominem attacks, how about simply living up to your own promises?

  • What a douchebag! Should be called DeetstheDouchebag instead of thedeets...

  • @swanee99 Is it unreasonable to expect Yellowbook to live up to their own promises? They told me that they'd stop delivering directories to me. They failed. And, they failed again in 2010. Why are they so incompetent?

  • Rita is correct on helping out different charities by having them go out and deliver our books. now if you were trying to stay green why would you go around and collect other peoples books just to litter the Yellowbook office building lawn. as far as going green the directory is made 100% of recycled paper and the ink is a soy based ink. if after the new book comes out you need to get rid of the old book your local waste company has a recycleing service and the book will be made into cellulose.

  • @joeschmidt626 1. Why not hire charities to delivery books to only people that want them?

    2. Sometimes making a point takes energy.

    3. A 100% recycled paper directory that's unsolicited and unwanted is still wasteful. Give them to those who want them only, please.

    4. It costs cities money to deal with phone directories in recycling or waste cycles. Please limit the delivery to only those who want them. REDUCE. Reuse. Recycle.

  • I have only had three customers in the past three years tell me they didn't get their book. They were upset about it . You may be surprize to know that many times Yellowbook pays a local youth groups or chairty that need to raise money.. to deliver their book. You were just trying to be funny but... who you really hurt was the local business people who depend on calls from advertising in the book to feed their families. Those business will financially miss the income from that neighborhood

  • @ritablumer I guess we could assume that people who hadn't brought in their books after days of sitting on their front steps were actually planning on eventually doing so, and using Yellowbook rather than one of the Yellowbook competitor books also delivered to them annually. I seriously doubt that I hurt any local business people because I seriously doubt the books I returned would have generated any calls other than possibly to Yellowbook to unsubscribe (unsuccessfully).

  • wow, got nothing better to do with your time????

  • @rooseman22 It's not a question of time but priorities. I find time to point out how incompetent Yellowbook is at living up to their own promises. They continue to waste millions of households time and taxes dealing with their litter. Switch to opt-in and no one will complain about receiving the books, because they'll only go to those who truly want them. That seems reasonable to me. What's wrong with that?

  • This guy has A LOT, hum hum let me say this agian, A LOTTTT of time on his hand. As far as a looser go's, that is official. The certification of LOOSER came with the pile of phone books in the back seat and truck of his VAN! Jesus Christ man get a life!

  • @mellowdco I'll never be able to waste as much time as Yellowbook wastes of people around the country who are forced to deal with Yellowbook's print directory spam. If Yellowbook was a more competent company, I might be able to "waste" less of my own time.

  • so, let me get this straight. you went on private property and took other people's phone books? was that your property? dont think so....

    not to mention, you do realize those books are distributed by independant contractors. they may have been delivered because they wanted to make sure you got the book because you werent on his list.

    you are also very guilty of littering. get a life.

  • @winikten1 Yellowbook littered books on my property. I asked Yellowbook to stop. Yellowbook said they would. Yellowbook continued to litter their books on my property using contractors hired by . . . Yellowbook.

    I went on the same private property that Yellowbook's contractors went on to. Only I was cleaning up the properties while Yellowbook was littering unrequested Yellowbooks on the properties.

    Please solve the problem. Don't deliver books to people who haven't requested them.

  • @thedeets wow, what are you twelve? throw the book out and go on with your life. instead you wasted hours of your time, littered on private property, trespassed on private party to take the books, and made yourself look like a pathetic ass. way to go!

  • @winikten1 Could you explain to me how my litter was different from Yellowbook's litter? Both of us placed phone books on private property without asking, right?

    Do you think Yellowbook should honor opt-out requests? I took the time to call Yellowbook, asked to be removed from their distribution list, yet continued to receive their spam. Why should I have to spend my time dealing with their litter, and my tax dollars dealing with disposing of it?

  • i still dont understand why people fundamentally cant have civil conversationsations. "you waste of life" - really? it is recycled paper, but the trucks used to deliver all the books aren't using recycled oil. the bags that they're put in isn't recycled oil, either. 500 MILLION+ yellowpages in the US alone. that's an aweful lot of wasted resources.

  • WOW you have way to much time on your hands, All u do is take the book throw it in the garbage if you want, HOW Fing CARES WOWOWOW!!!!!! WOWOW!!! YELLOWBOOK rules whats the big deal , who cares its made out of recycled paper anyway. The y been around since 1930 phone books deal with it you waste of life!

  • @tdg223, thanks for the feedback. Personally, I think it's worth trying to solve a problem rather than wasting time year after year dealing with Yellowbook's litter.

    This video never would have been created had Yellowbook only lived up to their own promise.

  • @thedeets test

  • @tdg223 i sitll dont understand why people fundamentally cant have civil conversationsations. "you waste of life" - really? it is recycled paper, but the trucks used to deliver all the books aren't using recycled oil. the bags that they're put in isn't recycled oil, either. 500 MILLION+ yellowpages in the US alone. that's an aweful lot of wasted resources.

  • How is it legal to litter????...I just don't understand this! And you're doing it on private property on camera...WTF? Regardless of anything else..you broke the law.

  • @alynch3, I asked to be removed from YellowBook's distribution. They agreed to do so. They failed to do so.

    YellowBook wasted their company's time and money and their advertiser's money.

    If you think this is arrest worthy, please have me arrested. I doubt YellowBook is stupid enough to press charges against someone for pointing out their wasteful delivery incompetence.

  • I understand what you mean by your last comment, and the simple remedy seems to be the delivery driver. If someone isn't there, don't leave a book. But I don't see it as quite as big a problem as you make it out to be. Also, there is no need to be insulting in your blog as I have not been in any of my remarks.

  • That would seem like common sense, but the industry doesn't to use much of that since they continue to delivery to properties like those. And, ad this video illustrates, they don't honor their own opt-out lists, which means they're spending money to product and deliver books with advertiser's money that has no chance or generating a positive return.

    You may want to check back through your comments before jumping on the high road.

  • Lol, theres no "jumping on the high road" going on anywhere. If it was a big problem, firstly: you would see less advertisers, and secondly, you would see more people making a big deal out of it. But your purpose here is first and foremost to make a point about the extra books being annoying, not to protect local business owners like myself, which, after seeing this video, I am happy that my dollars did go to annoy someone like you. It brings me an added satisfaction.

  • Is that your version of high road commenting?

    Sure, the books are annoying but that's not my primary concern (just a spark). Overdelivery is costly for recycling systems, landfills, local business ad dollars, tax dollars, the environment, and resident's time.

    The only people I've found capable of not getting this work for the YP industry, which is why I presume that you do while claiming, anonymously, to be a YP advertiser. You have little credibility with me.

  • You point out that this overdelivery is costly etc etc, yet you fail to put out some actual statistics, facts, or anything, so I'll go ahead and determine that your statements are pretty much irrelevant. You just assume this is the case. But I guess you must be the one who is right against the hundreds of thousands of businesses in each directory.

    As for me, my name USComputing doesn't sound like a company? I work for the yellowpages? I don't have to prove that to you, lol but thats the company

  • Also, I could care less about your 'credibility" (:

  • I've covered this is great detail on my blog.

    The industry's PR people publicly state that the industry has a problem and is working on solving it.

    Take a look at YP print revenue sometime. The trends are clear.

  • If YP print revenue is down, it is because of the increase in the market share of Internet marketing.

    Not because you got an extra phone book a few times rofl.

  • I've explained this on my blog previously. Online YP advertising is not replacing print. In fact, both are down for YP companies these days.

  • I didnt say Online YP, i said online marketing in general. I know my Google local business listing is worth a lot more to me than the YP ad.

    You can get into too many directories for free. it is all about google lbls, Adwords, etc.

  • Good point. The YP industry's technology is antiquated compared to many search and directory sites.

  • I get your point, I agree with you. I also see things with these companies moving in the right direction. You are really smug and would perhaps be better accepted if you had a less pios attitude

  • @bigjrritchie, I dig your videos. Very cool.

    I find it hard to believe they're moving in the right direction when - as this video demonstrates - they accept unsubscribe requests yet fail to honor the lists they gather.

    No one yet appears to have figured out a tactic that gets yellow pages companies to treat their advertisers and communities with more respect. This is my attempt. If you find a tactic that works, please let me know.

  • Well I recently read an article where yellowpages are going to be implementing an opt in program. I think this will be much more effective. Consider the people they hire which distribute the books. I also think individual business have some blame here as well. If this type of advertising where limited to online it would make much more sense. I believe things are headed in that direction anyway the majority of shoppers use internet. these books are going to be antiquated eventually.

  • I find it highly doubtful that yellow pages companies will self-implement an opt-in system. That goes too far against their culture.

    They outsource distribution, but are still responsible for who they hire.

    How are individual businesses to blame?

    The web plays a role in a media mix. Print can be effective if distributed to those who use it, but is nothing but trash when spammed to those who don't.

  • Well done mate

  • You had to go to GOOGLE to figure it out? That's using your head!

    ...........

  • @uscomputing, it's amazing how much interest you've taken in my yellow pages related videos. I'm curious to know which yellow pages company you happen to work for.

  • I just signed up with them, so i check out similar videos. Thats why I signed up is because of the reach of the book.

  • Have you had any success with ads delivered to vacant homes or households where the books are no longer used? Is delivering to those properties a good use of your money?

  • Yes what a tremendous pain. A phone number directory.

    ...

  • I wonder if this guy understands that Dex and Yellowbook are different companies because he unloaded some of their books on the lawn.

  • @bigjrritchie, yes, I realize they are different companies. I returned the Dex books to Yellowbook because Yellowbook delivered books to properties that hadn't bothered to deal with their Dex books over the past month. That's often because they were vacant properties. For Yellowbook to assume people would want their books in cases like that is absurd.

  • Oh very well done!!!

  • As a former HELLowbook employee I salute you!

  • @palit42, I noticed that you previously posted this comment then removed it. I'll repost it so you can get credit for being an anonymous douchebag: "I bet if you devoted this much time and energy on finding a female that could bare your Al Franken [minus the money, fame and comedic presence (just the fugly part)] looks, even YOU pathetic, old ass could feel the warmth of a woman one day."

    Have a good day.

  • I posted it, relized it was a bit strong, then removed it and toned it down because i thought you'd go on suicide watch or something... Douchebag...

  • I'm sorry if you're offended by your own writing.

  • Franken, If I had the time I would go around the neighborhood, pick up all the shit and throw it on you lawn considering you litter the internet with it.

  • @palit41, you do realize that the content I create on the web is opt-in, right? No one has forced you to watch the above video, read my blog, etc.

    Frankly, I'm not sure why you choose to punish yourself watching things that upset you so much.

  • You remind me of Al Franken except you lack the comedic presence, money, talent and you've probably never had sex with a woman. In summation youre just a weird looking dude with a video camera.... lol!

  • Completely agree.

  • I bet if you devoted this much time and energy on finding a female that could bare your Al Franken [minus the money, fame and comedic presence (just the fugly part)] looks, even YOU pathetic, old ass could feel the warmth of a woman one day.

  • It is not just a hassle, but it is a waste of paper!

  • Thanks Ed.

  • Genius. I just chucked a dozen left in my apt building entryway. Annoying! Next year Ed we'll have to organize a citizen convoy to travel out there and "return" phonebooks. ("Look, there's somebody puking!")

  • Great video!

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