Adam and Eve had many sons and daughters (Genesis 5). They married their sisters at first, which was safe in the beginning since no errors existed in the chromosomes that typically create retardation in incestuous relationships today due to genetic similarity, and there was no law against it until God forbid it in the law of Moses 3000 years later. The first children of Adam and Eve right after the first generation could the marry 1st and 2nd cousins, which is even acceptable by todays standards
@VenomFangX I wouldn't say marrying first cousins is acceptable by today's standards. It may be legal but is very much frowned on. There is a big campaign in UK to discourage Muslims from cousin marriage for example.
I'm surprised you got kicked out of Hebrew school. But then again, embracing Jesus doesn't go down too well in Judaism. I remember my Rabbi asking me about Jesus, I simply said 'The guy was just a Jew and that's it.' Hahaha. Commandments are mitzvot. You shoulda stayed in Hebrew school. ;-) But who am I to judge? Whatever floats yer boat! Israel belongs to the Jews. End of story. Let's see who loses their shit over this comment.
So you start the human race with one man and one woman. Now explain how incest was not the foundation on which the entire population was founded? VFX denies it happened yet logically if his story book were true, it had to! Shawn was never very academically minded and thats why TF took him to school. The fact that experience did not embue him with any humility tells us all we need to know about this narcissistic idiot.
I don't believe Shawn's origin story. It is clear that Shawn ripped off how to tell the story from "The Killing Joke" comic. Shawn even likes to tell his origins differently like the Joker does. In his 2007 (or 2008?) origin video, there was no mention of the Emily Rose film. If that film was such an important part of Shawn's conversion, then why didn't he mention it in that video? Because the whole story is bullshit.
and race ,gender and sexuality are completly diffrent you cant compare the three to try and win an debate.. and 2 step you shouldtry and not use that word to tyr and down people and gods children thats not love . and im not judging you just trying to help.. because being homosexual or hetero.. how can that determaine the connection you have with god... i dont believe in him because in hetero
people were telling me that god was homophobic which thats the case ... he made a man and a women to not just have love but too be in sync.. but yeah you have to aplogies on the whole WORD .....
but on some people i dont get on how the hate god for making a man and a women too populate the world. because if you see a man and a women the go to gether like meant for each other not in just love but to populate . when i became a christian i wasnt againast homosexuality it didnt faze me but when i started to read about god
but with jesus hopefully you dont or stop tose things but that doesnt mean you stop cold turkey and as for levi. when it talks about sexual sins who says you have to be a homosexual to do lying with a man as you do a woman people were doing that mostly to be buttnaked and mostly in orgys... but in corinth love is explained and love doesnt mean sex..
and just because you have jesus that doesnt mean you are jesus.. you will still struggle but read matt.5 because thats too your soul.. and also for corith.6 the word homosexuality isnt even there and lying with a man as a women isnt the only sexual sin. having sex b4 marrige or cheating on spouse or masterbating.. and people who cheat tell lies or gets drunk or wants more and more..
@2Step: Corith.6:9-12 isnt on literalz per say, because jesus says that in him is the way, and in james 2 it basicly says that even if you dont see lying with a man as a woman as a sin but you lie , you cab tell god on what you want too aplogize on but on the whole WORLD!
@2StepsFwd1StepBack Forgive me, if the 'government' which was the Church sanctioned death for homosexuality then thtat's perfectly acceptable The torture and burning alive of so called Witches was another great work of the Church too! You really are a piece of work kid!
@2StepsFwd1StepBack Second of all, why care who someone decides to sleep with? I'll admit I used to be homophobic too but I've realized It doesn't affect anyone. Let people be and don't be hateful. Hate will only cause more problems. And if it turns out you're right, it's just more room for you in heaven right? lol
@2StepsFwd1StepBack You can have your opinions but don't use derogatory, degrading words like "fag" to describe other human beings. That's not very Christian of you, is it? I'm assuming you wouldn't use racist slurs? Fag is just as bad and hateful.
I'm atheist (although I'm exploring Christianity and was Buddhist for two years.) but I think it's really sad that it could in any way be "shameful" for him to be Christian when his family is(more or less?) Jewish. He should be able to believe what he wants and not be met with disapproval.
Theres just no nice way to say that taking a life is equal as bad as saying a curse word. If that is indeed true then God is so disgusting and horrible that I would rather burn in hell for amillion years than to serve him.
I can explain Romans and Corinthians but I don't think I could do it within the 500 character limit. I looked up 2 Peter 2:12 and don't see anything about homosexuality.
Also, from your comment, I see that you have the Westboro Baptist Church mentality.
That verse is in Leviticus and does not apply to us . Also, abomination doesn't mean what you think it means. Many people thinks that it means against God. But it actually means a ritual wronged.
@2StepsFwd1StepBack Did I say homosexuality was good? Am I preaching homosexuality? All I said was the Bible preaches the persecution and murder of homosexuals. If VFX believes the Bible then does he believe we should seek out and kill all homosexuals?
@2Step: whoa man 1st off dont use the word fag its disgusting.. 2nd see this is why people thing christians are a-holes ...christ would never say what you put .. you should apologies,,, homosexuality isnt a sin how is it a sin to love and or too have "desires" or attracted too .. you havent done anything wrong,
The Holy Bible says nothing about homosexuals(NKJV) and i believe that the can go to heaven because of Matthew 5. Jesus wasnt talking too your body then your soul it was vice versa.. anyone who belives or not believe in god based off of sexuality doesnt make sense.
Adam and Eve were not coerced, and Satan is not more powerful than God. God allowed Adam and Eve to choose; Eve was deceived by Satan, this is true, but Adam was not. Adam willingly disobeyed God to join Eve in her circumstance in an attempt to rescue her, and this parallels how Christ willingly became sin for us to rescue us. For this reason and others, Jesus is called "The Second Adam".
@2StepsFwd1StepBack Have ever watched any of his videos ?I was really struck he basicly said that nonbelievers deserved anything bad that happened to him. This tells me that underneath it all he has a violent nature. He will preach hate which will push somebody already close to the edge.
The serpent in the Garden of Eden is Satan who rejected the will of God and attempted to murder Adam and Eve. Isaiah 45:7 is properly translated "calamity", not evil. Homosexuality may or may not be biological, but regardless, it is the result of the fall, which is caused by sin. The tree of knowledge of life would not make them "gods", that was the lie of Satan, who wanted to be "as God" in Isaiah. God did not want to coerce Adam and Eve, and thus let them choose to obey or disobey Him
Lastly, he doesn't care what the American or Israeli government are doing, nor does he know. yet he's saying we should support it....
VFX, you should know Palestinians, are being ETHNICALLY cleansed for the land (many of the Christian Palestinians from Christian holy sites)
So maybe you should study what you're saying before you open your mouth on this topic. You're basically supporting a soft-kill version of nazism, but against groups within your faith base (christianity)
Hmmm I smell bullshit, especially since Shawn is from a real liberal place like Canada. I went to Hebrew as a child, and there were no bias's against evolution Unless he went to an extra double ultra orthodox school, which I don't get the impression he did by the mannerisms, behavior and overall character I've seen from his father, during the few times I've heard him talk online
Maybe it's the hipster in me, but I kind of want to see VenomFangX succeed because even though I think he is doing something that will have only a more negative impact on the world, the more fallowing it receives, I want to know that I was witness to him rising to fame. From his unsung days on YouTube, to be whatever sort of multimillionaire Christian televangelism/megachurch mogul that I think he just might become.
this was a very interesting interview
you must forgive me for taking so long to watch it, but at an hour, i had to squeeze it in
I found your questions good, but he's a good talker, and I think he lost the point on you there once or twice with his endless jibberish,
I would've definitely been harsher on him, but then again I probably wouldn't have gotten the interview in the first place :D
great job
JamesEzSecretChannel 3 weeks ago
Amazing interview. Thanks for uploading. Shawn is such an inspiration.
theSyringe 3 weeks ago
awesome interview.
Unworshipediety 1 month ago in playlist More videos from JonPaulPrime
VFX was converted back to religion by a horror film... it all suddenly makes sense.
TheNarcMan 1 month ago
"[my mother says] I get to decide for myself what to believe and don't tell me otherwise." It seems that trait was passed from mother to son.
mrstewartosborne 1 month ago
@DoritosConsomme Class act.
ZuccottiPark 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
No way, this is a dream!
sWeepingsAnd 1 month ago
i missed this.. ok.. watching now
SkidRowRadio 1 month ago in playlist More videos from JonPaulPrime
1 hour 15 min....fuck this shit
eggnogs 1 month ago
@eggnogs no you, this is a good interview
ChinchillaMania 1 month ago
Enjoyed the video, brother!! God bless!
theist77 1 month ago
Adam and Eve had many sons and daughters (Genesis 5). They married their sisters at first, which was safe in the beginning since no errors existed in the chromosomes that typically create retardation in incestuous relationships today due to genetic similarity, and there was no law against it until God forbid it in the law of Moses 3000 years later. The first children of Adam and Eve right after the first generation could the marry 1st and 2nd cousins, which is even acceptable by todays standards
VenomFangX 1 month ago
@VenomFangX I wouldn't say marrying first cousins is acceptable by today's standards. It may be legal but is very much frowned on. There is a big campaign in UK to discourage Muslims from cousin marriage for example.
MsBPunk 1 week ago
I'm surprised you got kicked out of Hebrew school. But then again, embracing Jesus doesn't go down too well in Judaism. I remember my Rabbi asking me about Jesus, I simply said 'The guy was just a Jew and that's it.' Hahaha. Commandments are mitzvot. You shoulda stayed in Hebrew school. ;-) But who am I to judge? Whatever floats yer boat! Israel belongs to the Jews. End of story. Let's see who loses their shit over this comment.
GirlonFilm1969 1 month ago
So you start the human race with one man and one woman. Now explain how incest was not the foundation on which the entire population was founded? VFX denies it happened yet logically if his story book were true, it had to! Shawn was never very academically minded and thats why TF took him to school. The fact that experience did not embue him with any humility tells us all we need to know about this narcissistic idiot.
BiodegradeableMan 1 month ago
or maybe he didnt want too tell people
MrJeter693 1 month ago
I don't believe Shawn's origin story. It is clear that Shawn ripped off how to tell the story from "The Killing Joke" comic. Shawn even likes to tell his origins differently like the Joker does. In his 2007 (or 2008?) origin video, there was no mention of the Emily Rose film. If that film was such an important part of Shawn's conversion, then why didn't he mention it in that video? Because the whole story is bullshit.
lulzcoaster 1 month ago
its not my body but my soul so yes homsexuals can go to hevean not all but some just like heterosexuals or bi sexuals
MrJeter693 1 month ago
and race ,gender and sexuality are completly diffrent you cant compare the three to try and win an debate.. and 2 step you shouldtry and not use that word to tyr and down people and gods children thats not love . and im not judging you just trying to help.. because being homosexual or hetero.. how can that determaine the connection you have with god... i dont believe in him because in hetero
MrJeter693 1 month ago
people were telling me that god was homophobic which thats the case ... he made a man and a women to not just have love but too be in sync.. but yeah you have to aplogies on the whole WORD .....
MrJeter693 1 month ago
but on some people i dont get on how the hate god for making a man and a women too populate the world. because if you see a man and a women the go to gether like meant for each other not in just love but to populate . when i became a christian i wasnt againast homosexuality it didnt faze me but when i started to read about god
MrJeter693 1 month ago
but with jesus hopefully you dont or stop tose things but that doesnt mean you stop cold turkey and as for levi. when it talks about sexual sins who says you have to be a homosexual to do lying with a man as you do a woman people were doing that mostly to be buttnaked and mostly in orgys... but in corinth love is explained and love doesnt mean sex..
MrJeter693 1 month ago
and just because you have jesus that doesnt mean you are jesus.. you will still struggle but read matt.5 because thats too your soul.. and also for corith.6 the word homosexuality isnt even there and lying with a man as a women isnt the only sexual sin. having sex b4 marrige or cheating on spouse or masterbating.. and people who cheat tell lies or gets drunk or wants more and more..
MrJeter693 1 month ago
@2Step: Corith.6:9-12 isnt on literalz per say, because jesus says that in him is the way, and in james 2 it basicly says that even if you dont see lying with a man as a woman as a sin but you lie , you cab tell god on what you want too aplogize on but on the whole WORLD!
MrJeter693 1 month ago
now, when you say special...
Dudedan24 1 month ago
@2StepsFwd1StepBack Forgive me, if the 'government' which was the Church sanctioned death for homosexuality then thtat's perfectly acceptable The torture and burning alive of so called Witches was another great work of the Church too! You really are a piece of work kid!
BiodegradeableMan 1 month ago
@2StepsFwd1StepBack Second of all, why care who someone decides to sleep with? I'll admit I used to be homophobic too but I've realized It doesn't affect anyone. Let people be and don't be hateful. Hate will only cause more problems. And if it turns out you're right, it's just more room for you in heaven right? lol
philosophyphantic199 1 month ago
@2StepsFwd1StepBack It's still a hateful word. That's my point. There's no need to call anyone stupid, either. I haven't insulted you. :/
philosophyphantic199 1 month ago
@2StepsFwd1StepBack You can have your opinions but don't use derogatory, degrading words like "fag" to describe other human beings. That's not very Christian of you, is it? I'm assuming you wouldn't use racist slurs? Fag is just as bad and hateful.
philosophyphantic199 1 month ago
I'm atheist (although I'm exploring Christianity and was Buddhist for two years.) but I think it's really sad that it could in any way be "shameful" for him to be Christian when his family is(more or less?) Jewish. He should be able to believe what he wants and not be met with disapproval.
philosophyphantic199 1 month ago
Theres just no nice way to say that taking a life is equal as bad as saying a curse word. If that is indeed true then God is so disgusting and horrible that I would rather burn in hell for amillion years than to serve him.
sewbuttns 1 month ago 2
@2StepsFwd1StepBack,
I can explain Romans and Corinthians but I don't think I could do it within the 500 character limit. I looked up 2 Peter 2:12 and don't see anything about homosexuality.
Also, from your comment, I see that you have the Westboro Baptist Church mentality.
VidsBySS 1 month ago
@2StepsFwd1StepBack,
That verse is in Leviticus and does not apply to us . Also, abomination doesn't mean what you think it means. Many people thinks that it means against God. But it actually means a ritual wronged.
VidsBySS 1 month ago
@2StepsFwd1StepBack,
The Bible does not say that homosexuality is a sin. I used to think that homosexuality was a sin too until I decided to educate myself on it.
VidsBySS 1 month ago
@2StepsFwd1StepBack,
The verse you provided does not mention polygamy.
VidsBySS 1 month ago
@2StepsFwd1StepBack, lol. I did not remove my comment. You replied to the wrong comment.
VidsBySS 1 month ago
@2StepsFwd1StepBack,
Can you give me a verse that mentions that polygamy is sinful?
VidsBySS 1 month ago
@2StepsFwd1StepBack,
Polygamy was accepted in the Bible.
VidsBySS 1 month ago
@2StepsFwd1StepBack,
I deleted my reply before you replied but I guess you were still able to see my comment/reply.
I did not defend them. I was just stating that both gay and straight people do the same. Your comment made it seem as if only gay people do it.
Gay people are not filthy. Don't confuse love with lust. What you see on craigslist is lust.
VidsBySS 1 month ago
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VidsBySS 1 month ago
@2StepsFwd1StepBack Did I say homosexuality was good? Am I preaching homosexuality? All I said was the Bible preaches the persecution and murder of homosexuals. If VFX believes the Bible then does he believe we should seek out and kill all homosexuals?
BiodegradeableMan 1 month ago
@2Step: whoa man 1st off dont use the word fag its disgusting.. 2nd see this is why people thing christians are a-holes ...christ would never say what you put .. you should apologies,,, homosexuality isnt a sin how is it a sin to love and or too have "desires" or attracted too .. you havent done anything wrong,
MrJeter693 1 month ago
The Holy Bible says nothing about homosexuals(NKJV) and i believe that the can go to heaven because of Matthew 5. Jesus wasnt talking too your body then your soul it was vice versa.. anyone who belives or not believe in god based off of sexuality doesnt make sense.
MrJeter693 1 month ago
@2StepsFwd1StepBack When that book is bogoted and preaches persection of homosexuals its a problem!
BiodegradeableMan 1 month ago
Nice on Jon playing to his ego and certain knowledge that he could not refuse an interview. Classic narcissist.
BiodegradeableMan 1 month ago
Adam and Eve were not coerced, and Satan is not more powerful than God. God allowed Adam and Eve to choose; Eve was deceived by Satan, this is true, but Adam was not. Adam willingly disobeyed God to join Eve in her circumstance in an attempt to rescue her, and this parallels how Christ willingly became sin for us to rescue us. For this reason and others, Jesus is called "The Second Adam".
VenomFangX 1 month ago
@VenomFangX If the human race started with Dam and Eve then incest was the only way forward, agreed?
BiodegradeableMan 1 month ago
@2StepsFwd1StepBack Have ever watched any of his videos ?I was really struck he basicly said that nonbelievers deserved anything bad that happened to him. This tells me that underneath it all he has a violent nature. He will preach hate which will push somebody already close to the edge.
420gma 1 month ago
Good video. Thank GOD in heaven for VenomFangX. Lets pray for VFX Christians :-)
fettkatt87 1 month ago
The serpent in the Garden of Eden is Satan who rejected the will of God and attempted to murder Adam and Eve. Isaiah 45:7 is properly translated "calamity", not evil. Homosexuality may or may not be biological, but regardless, it is the result of the fall, which is caused by sin. The tree of knowledge of life would not make them "gods", that was the lie of Satan, who wanted to be "as God" in Isaiah. God did not want to coerce Adam and Eve, and thus let them choose to obey or disobey Him
VenomFangX 1 month ago
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VenomFangX 1 month ago
vfx is beneath contempt. you've given him a more fair hearing than many interviewers probably would, so kudos to you Jon.
gothatfunk 1 month ago
@2StepsFwd1StepBack didn't your reply here just break one of God's Laws? No hard feels on this end. I feel your pain.
jedribit 1 month ago
I like VenomFangX, but I don't like the way he makes receiving Jesus conditional upon obeying God's Law. Godspeed, Shawn
MerozCurse 1 month ago
Those parents must be so ashamed of this retard.
ivanisavich 1 month ago
This guy is going to become a serious problem later on !
420gma 1 month ago in playlist JPP Interviews
your mind is putty ready for somebody to press their fingerprint into it
theicediamond7 1 month ago
Lastly, he doesn't care what the American or Israeli government are doing, nor does he know. yet he's saying we should support it....
VFX, you should know Palestinians, are being ETHNICALLY cleansed for the land (many of the Christian Palestinians from Christian holy sites)
So maybe you should study what you're saying before you open your mouth on this topic. You're basically supporting a soft-kill version of nazism, but against groups within your faith base (christianity)
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
21:21 "...for this reason he who delivered Me to you has the greater sin." (John ch19 v11)
weseeinpart 1 month ago
And vfx is wrong, Torah doesn't mean law, Torah means scripture. Halacha means law
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
Hmmm I smell bullshit, especially since Shawn is from a real liberal place like Canada. I went to Hebrew as a child, and there were no bias's against evolution Unless he went to an extra double ultra orthodox school, which I don't get the impression he did by the mannerisms, behavior and overall character I've seen from his father, during the few times I've heard him talk online
skinnywhop87 1 month ago
In stereo :-))
pjohn5 1 month ago in playlist JPP Interviews
Maybe it's the hipster in me, but I kind of want to see VenomFangX succeed because even though I think he is doing something that will have only a more negative impact on the world, the more fallowing it receives, I want to know that I was witness to him rising to fame. From his unsung days on YouTube, to be whatever sort of multimillionaire Christian televangelism/megachurch mogul that I think he just might become.
TheRepublicOfUngeria 1 month ago
:x
MartyrLoserKing 1 month ago