This movie will directly insult Hollywood, and the cocaine-fueled movie industry. I'll be surprised if it gets a mention, much less an award. I wanna see it though.
stupid Academy, they ban the film yet at the after parties they wil be shovelling that marching powder up their noses like its their last fucking day on earth, this will be a huge hit
@Skinnyoompalumpa it was released here in the US on October 24 but only in select theaters. It's going to be released on a wider selection of theaters on January 12, 2012
Somos unas vergas, si no nos toco vivir en este pais ni pdos ay ke aguantarce, pa ke vean ke no nos pueden partir la madre tan facil............ pinches chillones
Que mensaje queremos mandar al mundo con esta pelicula???... Que el triunfo de Ximena tmbien estubo relacionado con el crimen organizado???.. no me chinguen!.. se pasa CONACULTA, CANACINE y demas organizaciones que patrocinan esta pelicula. Luego por que nos ven feo en el extranjero, y son rasistas con nosotros... Sera una realidad esto..pero aqui en Mexico tambien hay historias de caracter positivo...
@whateva887 La historia fue mas o menos basada en Laura Zúñiga Huizar, no en Ximena Navarrete. La pelicula ha sido un exito en el extranjero, de hecho
ESTA GENIAL DEVERAS ES UNA REALIDAD QUE MEXICO VIVE ES UNA HISTORIA REAL K MUCHAS PERSONAS SEGURAMENTE VIVE HOJALA LA SITUACION CAMBUE "MEXICO ES EL PARAISO LOS MEXICANOS SON EL INFIERNO"
@marcianytaweb19 hahhaa osea tienes el valor o t vale xD.... ps ya no queda de otra.... ya la quitaroin del cine :S no duró nada y no la vi :.s ah comprarla en la pirateria xD
@paulmoon1990 Nada que ver, toman historias de eventos que pasan en diferentes partes del pais, los bloqueos en monterrey, la miss de sinaloa, los asesinatos de personal del consulado de Juárez, y todos los combinan para hacer esta película un poco de fantasía del escritor. no se puede ver como algo histórico, solo como una película... A mi punto de ver personal, no es la gran cosa... De hecho la historia esta un poco complicada de seguir, aunque entendible y predecible...
A los productores, guionistas y directores mexicanos les encantar reflejar "la realidad" de México, pero curiosamente siempre lo hacen de la peor parte, la más cruda y oscura. Algún día me gustaría ver una historia que reflejara la otra parte de nuestra realidad: la de millones de personas que a pesar de tantos problemas hacemos nuestro mejor esfuerzo para salir adelante. ¿Será que nadie tiene el talento para mostrar esa cara de los mexicanos?
Mexicans living in USA, ARENT mexicans at all.... real mexicans will rather die in the worts kind of pain than running away from something, real mexicans, have dignity and honor, i really hope that one day the rest of the world can see what really Mexicans are like.
@vladnek I'm agree, but the narco world sometimes isn't a choose. Much people are forced to work for narco, and if they don't accept, they have a dead sentence.
@hijadelaluna85 probably right, but i think that 90% of the casses it's up to you, btw, in the "sierra" tarahumara indigenous people say no, to growing marijuana, and now they're cultivating advocatos, the braves rules if the cowards allow them
chinguen su madre pinches perros MEXICO ES MEXICO, y aunque este de la chingada somos un pais con mucho potencial asi que traguense sus palabras aun asi los NORTEAMERICANOS siguen viniendo de vacaciones y a dejarnos su mugroso dinero , aqui an muerto miles de americanos y aun asi siguen viniendo
Ahi esta el enlace para la Cancion del trailer. Super Facil. Lo unico que tienen que hacer es poner un punto despues de las tres w y luego poner un punto antes de la palabra com
@EPGAH Oh and one more thing, yea theyll keep the infection out once people in th UNITED STATES stops buying the drugs, you honestly think this is all one sided? people on the other side are just providing sometihing that people here are willing to buy, now im not saying that the US is their only customer, but I highly doubt building a "wall" will fix anything.
@rolsan88 There's a "market" for everything, but that doesn't mean it should be allowed. You could justify whores or contract killing with the same argument.
America has its own crime, I'll be the First to go along with that, but that just means an extra reason why we don't need Mexico's in addition to our own.
And yes, it showed her as a "poor innocent victim", but like "Mary Full of Grace" she AVOIDS, rather than seek out people offering help once on the civilized side of the border
what part of the trailer did you not get? the part where they are ambushed at the party and everyone gets killed but her? the part where she had a bag over her head in the back of the car? looks to me like she didnt have a choice it was more either you do what we say or we kill you! try researching the plot of the movie a little more. its not glorifying anything! its showing how people like her sometimes get involved in the cartel war against their will.
@rolsan88 If Mexicans' obedience could be compelled by gunpoint, then our Border Patrol is CLEARLY going about it all wrong! But how did they compel her obedience once she was out of their line-of-sight/line-of-fire?
Also, the same Cartel scum that are bringing DRUGS into America are bringing THUGS into America. If Mexico stopped the movement of one, it would automatically hamper the other.
They think they can dump their people on us and yet stop the drug trade. Truly "magical" thinking!
@EPGAH Cartels target your family not you. THAT how how they "compel" you. "Do as I say or your wife, children, parents, brother, sister etc. gets it!" That is called their "Plata o Plomo" policy. Silver or Lead. You either accept their commands by bribe or by bullets. And actually the Cartel scumbags are importing thugs FROM the U.S. from street gangs because in Mexico they are being slaughtered like pigs and can't replenish their ranks as many people would rather fight or die than join them.
@tangos It's a story about a woman who gets caught up and entangled in the underworld of drug trafficking as it also crosses the visible world of beauty pageants. It's a Mexican movie so expect a lot of deep and hidden messages and metaphors about the bigger picture picture.
@xm377Moyocoyatzin How did she "accidentally" get caught up and entangled in the world of drug-trafficking? Did she accidentally puff cocaine on her face instead of makeup?
To me, it resembles "Maria Full Of 'Grace'", the mule who swallowed drug-balloons, got caught, but lied to the Americans who offered help, a way OUT of the world of thugs&drugs. What "metaphor" was that?!
If they pit themselves against our law, whatever happens to them is fully deserved, don't you think?
@EPGAH@EPGAH You obviously have no friggin idea how Cartels "recruit" people. You imply that she took drugs herself and that that is how she became entangled with drugs because she was a drug user herself. This is not the case here, try watching the movie instead of talking about something you know absolutely nothing about. The story is of a girl who just wanted to be a model but the fiends behind the trade fuck her over.
@xm377Moyocoyatzin In "real" life, we have to chase them away from halfway houses, but it's harder and harder to do as criminals get more "rights" and cops get sued if they use force on habitual criminals...But they don't respond to anything else.
You're right, the trailer is not a good way to judge the movie, but there's a long "tradition" of making criminals seem glorious, their servants seem like innocent dupes, and generally discarding that annoying concept of Right vs. Wrong
@EPGAH Criminals getting more rights? I have to call bullshit when all a fucking cop has to do is say "Probable Cause" in court and be absolved from all punishment for beating up or extorting anyone they wish.
watch?v=vgr2-NIlG6I
watch?v=PYixzF-SX4E
watch?v=XfM5V2MoTJI
Besides, you are the last person who should be talking about what is right and what is wrong as you've shown yourself to be completely inept and unwilling to even understanding the concept.
@xm377Moyocoyatzin America is a separate country seeking Self-Determination, but Mexico is not even willing to respect the border, much less "lesser laws" once within our country, then they wonder why we consider them as less, rather than equal, and/or why we don't give a (expletive of your choice) about their rights or their "sovereignty", and Mexico talking about being an "Independent Country" sounds like absolute hypocritical bullshit equal to or surpassing Obama's!
@EPGAH Now when you say "Mexico" do you mean our Mexican Government, All 112 million Mexicans in Mexico itself, all 120+ million Mexicans world wide, or are you just talking about a few hundred stupid ass little cholos that can't even speak neither English nor Spanish properly inside the U.S.?
@xm377Moyocoyatzin I'm talking about the 14-50 MILLION that came into America, march in our streets, bitching that we're not doing "enough" for the invaders, then call us racist for wanting them to either stay out, or behave when they come in.
@EPGAH There are barely 9 million Mexicans in the U.S. And if you are talking about the May Day Marches those were to tell the Federal Gov to get off it's fucking ass and FIX the immigration problem. The purpose of the march was so that people STOP Being "illegals" and that there be a more efficient, transparent, and comprehensible road to naturalization and citizenship. How in hell is this a bad thing? Only your imagination can justify that.
@xm377Moyocoyatzin There's already a road to citizenship, but it starts on the OTHER side of the border, not ours! If you want to be a citizen, apply like everyone else. If we say no, that's "NO, stay out", not "NO, but sneak in anyways and wonder why you are unwanted"!
How is it a bad thing for a country--even the "hated" America--to decide whom to let in and whom not to, ESPECIALLY when the Family Reunification Act means we have to take a whole family, rather than just one worthy immigrant?
@xm377Moyocoyatzin PS, our immigration system works when it keeps people we don't want OUT. It does not "fail to let them in". Immigration is a FAVOR granted by the receiving country, not a birthright of the donor country!
Also, if the ones misbehaving are just cholos, not "REAL" Mexicans, then what is MALDEF? Cholos that had enough self-discipline to get law-degrees to break our laws without repercussions, and/or turn them against the Americans?
@xm377Moyocoyatzin Americans have been telling the Government to fix the immigration problem since 1954, if they won't do it for us, why would they do it for some ingrate invaders?
@xm377Moyocoyatzin Remember, Calderon said there were 50 MILLION people in America who still had loyalty to the wrong side of the border. You'd think an antagonistic foreign power would want to DOWNPLAY how much of their trash was in America, not BRAG about it?
Maybe he was trolling, maybe he was serious, but instead of calling him on it, Obama just laughed, accepting the implied insult. (The benefits that drew them to America weren't enough to buy their loyalty?)
@EPGAH If you have seen the Zapatista message video I sent you you would know Mexicans have been bred for 500 years to resist, to live as we are or die as we are but NEVER to give up our dignity that is our identity and our loyalty only to ourselves and never to any foreign power and much less to a racist and hostile one. Again, 50 million is almost 50% of Mexico. The number is around 9-10 million Mexicans who are both legal and illegal living inside the U.S. (8% of Mexican pop)
@xm377Moyocoyatzin Yes, but resist in their own country, not ours. They came here for a better life? Then they need to follow OUR rules. Following the same ways that made them losers in their own country will make them even BIGGER losers here.
And if we're racist and hostile, then they can find a country more palatable to invade. I recommend China!
Why did Calderon brag about 50 MILLION then, if he only "meant" 9-10 million? To prove Obama didn't have a spine? We knew that already!
@EPGAH Your ancestors did not follow either the rules of England nor of the Indigenous people in order to establish themselves here. And even after the U.S. was established it was founded on blatant rule breaking and double dealings with Indigenous Nations, Canada, Mexico, and Hawaii. How many immigrants from Europe came here because they had murdered someone back home and was wanted, or was escaping debt, running from persecution or simply coming here for the opportunity?
@EPGAH Your ancestors did not follow either the rules of England nor of the Indigenous people in order to establish themselves here. And even after the U.S. was established it was founded on blatant rule breaking and double dealings with Indigenous Nations, Canada, Mexico, and Hawaii. How many immigrants from Europe came here because they had murdered someone back home and was wanted, or was escaping debt, running from persecution or simply coming here for the opportunity?
@xm377Moyocoyatzin PS, if cops really WERE as violent, powerful, and/or even "Out Of Control" as you say, wouldn't invaders be AFRAID to come to America, much less commit crimes here, for fear of getting a richly-deserved beating? There would be a cartoon-level exodus of criminals, especially foreign criminals.
Instead, they KEEP invading, apparently seeking power through feigned victimhood, whining about being "targeted" or "exploited", but it's a consequence of THEIR collective actions!
@EPGAH Again, you are projecting the antics of a few American bred clowns with a foreignesque tinge unto all Mexicans. And then you wonder why people call you racist and prejudiced when you act racist and prejudiced.
@xm377Moyocoyatzin I don't care about the actions of Mexicans in Mexico, it's when they make their problems/people OUR problem that Americans care.
Indeed, if Mexico kept their people to themselves, and recalled the defective units they'd already let into America, I bet we'd have ZERO problems WITH MEXICANS, don't you think?
Show me Americans marching, "WE WILL NOT COMPLY" in Mexico, if you believe there is a reciprocal problem? Show me Americans causing problems in Mexico?
@EPGAH You want to see Americans Marching in Mexico saying "we will not comply?" Open your history book and Look up the Texan Revolt, The Punitive Expedition, The United States occupation of Veracruz, and the Intervention against the Zapatistas after NAFTA.
@xm377Moyocoyatzin Well, if the Texan revolt was a problem, then so was Mexico's revolt against Spain. You don't sell someone something and tell them how to use it. Who does Mexico think they are, Microsoft?
The Punitive Expedition was exactly that, PUNISHMENT! Villa and his Villains attacked Santa Fe, which even then was American territory.
The Zapatistas was sold to Americans as "Mexico can't handle their rebels, we're helping"...
@xm377Moyocoyatzin I'm talking about civilians. American civilians going into Mexico and rioting, disobeying the laws, and whining about "racism" when the punishment comes down.
I DID read one Mexican claim that after a crime is "over and done with" the perpetrator is no longer a criminal. Is that a widespread belief by Mexicans? It's the only way to explain their widespread mental disconnect between action and punishment...
@EPGAH I have never heard of such a ridiculous law. And in a country where they believe crime leaves a mark on your very "soul" I very highly doubt anyone in Mexico would even comprehend what you just said. After a Crime or evil act there is Guilt and 2+2=4. Why do I even need to be explaining this?
@xm377Moyocoyatzin Because Mexicans claimed not to get that the marches in the street brought a crackdown, or that Villa's attack on New Mexico brought a reprisal.
If criminals can conduct reprisals against Mexicans, how much more can a COUNTRY? And they whine, "You're only picking on us because we're Mexican", or call us racist for punishing THEIR actions, which is really not a great way to score brownie points with the people whose country you're not supposed to be in!
@xm377Moyocoyatzin As to guilt, Mexico may or may not feel guilt, but refused to pay the upkeep for their illegals in California, dismissing out-of-hand two lawsuits to that end, and sued Arizona for trying to drive out their scum. Then they have the unmitigated call to complain about TEXAS violating "international law" by executing a pedophile Mexico couldn't be bothered hanging onto?!
This indicates Mexico is fully behind their crimes, and wants them to continue, "marked soul" or not!
@xm377Moyocoyatzin PS, I never said law, I said CONCEPT...It's the only way to explain such widespread expectation to misbehave without getting punished, and/or calling the punishment "racist" as if we're punishing what they ARE, rather than what they DID!
Again, Americans could not get lesser punishment in any other country breaking laws, then whining, "You're only picking on us 'cause we're WHITE!" And in some countries, that could actually accrue HARSHER punishment for "resistance", etc.
what an amzing film!!had me in tears. Amazing. God I wish I could help these people.
Ayohima 3 hours ago
aburrida y predecible
jacasforever 3 days ago
Laura Zuniga
ajcv44 1 week ago
Song name:
Saint Saviour - This Ain't No Hymn
Baliwzgz 3 weeks ago 2
This movie will directly insult Hollywood, and the cocaine-fueled movie industry. I'll be surprised if it gets a mention, much less an award. I wanna see it though.
herrbdog 3 weeks ago
maria full of grace!!
thamer23riy 1 month ago
Censorship By The Media and Government is everywhere Stand up for your Rights People ..or we are Bent
THIBERTEULALIE 1 month ago
another Academy nod to cheesy undeserving hispanic cinema
when looking for films, the first ones i weed out from selection are any latino named directors, with these exceptions:
Bunuel
Cuaron
mysticgirl1000 1 month ago
@mysticgirl1000 who asked you? lol
kcolin6701 1 month ago
@mysticgirl1000 LOL.You're taste in cinema must be awful if you're being serious. Talk about close-minded..
TEEN1DOL 5 days ago
stupid Academy, they ban the film yet at the after parties they wil be shovelling that marching powder up their noses like its their last fucking day on earth, this will be a huge hit
insomnia759 1 month ago
I need name of that song,can someone help me,at 1.19!
SloveniaHardCore91 1 month ago
Excellent film.
cajandro 1 month ago
ALguien sabe de quién es la canción?
noirepanther13 2 months ago
@noirepanther13 This Ain't No Hymn - Saint Saviour
KeepCalmAndPartyHard 2 months ago
Going to be watching this movie at UC Berkeley tomorrow following a Q&A with the producers, I am utterly excited.
edguy52 2 months ago
@edguy52
DId he say when it will get a wide/dvd release in the US yaar
Skinnyoompalumpa 1 month ago
Hey Mexicans, any word on when this comes out in the states?
Skinnyoompalumpa 2 months ago
@Skinnyoompalumpa it was released here in the US on October 24 but only in select theaters. It's going to be released on a wider selection of theaters on January 12, 2012
KeepCalmAndPartyHard 2 months ago
@KeepCalmAndPartyHard
Thanks. Can't wait. It's one of the few non Indian movies i am looking forward to.
Skinnyoompalumpa 2 months ago
Somos unas vergas, si no nos toco vivir en este pais ni pdos ay ke aguantarce, pa ke vean ke no nos pueden partir la madre tan facil............ pinches chillones
LSMAGIO 3 months ago
Que mensaje queremos mandar al mundo con esta pelicula???... Que el triunfo de Ximena tmbien estubo relacionado con el crimen organizado???.. no me chinguen!.. se pasa CONACULTA, CANACINE y demas organizaciones que patrocinan esta pelicula. Luego por que nos ven feo en el extranjero, y son rasistas con nosotros... Sera una realidad esto..pero aqui en Mexico tambien hay historias de caracter positivo...
whateva887 3 months ago
@whateva887 La historia fue mas o menos basada en Laura Zúñiga Huizar, no en Ximena Navarrete. La pelicula ha sido un exito en el extranjero, de hecho
KeepCalmAndPartyHard 2 months ago
ESTA GENIAL DEVERAS ES UNA REALIDAD QUE MEXICO VIVE ES UNA HISTORIA REAL K MUCHAS PERSONAS SEGURAMENTE VIVE HOJALA LA SITUACION CAMBUE "MEXICO ES EL PARAISO LOS MEXICANOS SON EL INFIERNO"
Dannyjuado 4 months ago
great movie!!!
alexsalidoone 4 months ago
COMO ES POSIBLE QUE EN 2:18 SEGUNDOS SE ME ERISARA TANTO LA PIEL ESTOII SEGURA ES UNA OBRA MAESTRA
Dannyjuado 4 months ago
@Dannyjuado¬¬ haaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaa ¬¬
kire1721 3 months ago
mejor la compro en pirata xD
marcianytaweb19 4 months ago 2
@marcianytaweb19 hahhaa osea tienes el valor o t vale xD.... ps ya no queda de otra.... ya la quitaroin del cine :S no duró nada y no la vi :.s ah comprarla en la pirateria xD
kire1721 3 months ago
this history really happened, the name original is LAURA ZÚÑIGA HUÍZAR Miss sinaloa !!!
paulmoon1990 4 months ago
@paulmoon1990 Nada que ver, toman historias de eventos que pasan en diferentes partes del pais, los bloqueos en monterrey, la miss de sinaloa, los asesinatos de personal del consulado de Juárez, y todos los combinan para hacer esta película un poco de fantasía del escritor. no se puede ver como algo histórico, solo como una película... A mi punto de ver personal, no es la gran cosa... De hecho la historia esta un poco complicada de seguir, aunque entendible y predecible...
JuanDJ1967 1 month ago
i hate Diego luna and Gael Garcia.
ajenlomas 4 months ago
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A los productores, guionistas y directores mexicanos les encantar reflejar "la realidad" de México, pero curiosamente siempre lo hacen de la peor parte, la más cruda y oscura. Algún día me gustaría ver una historia que reflejara la otra parte de nuestra realidad: la de millones de personas que a pesar de tantos problemas hacemos nuestro mejor esfuerzo para salir adelante. ¿Será que nadie tiene el talento para mostrar esa cara de los mexicanos?
exibero 4 months ago
This will be the mexican film to sent to the oscars this year
rafaelmexico 4 months ago 7
Mexicans living in USA, ARENT mexicans at all.... real mexicans will rather die in the worts kind of pain than running away from something, real mexicans, have dignity and honor, i really hope that one day the rest of the world can see what really Mexicans are like.
vladnek 5 months ago
@vladnek I'm agree, but the narco world sometimes isn't a choose. Much people are forced to work for narco, and if they don't accept, they have a dead sentence.
hijadelaluna85 4 months ago
@hijadelaluna85 probably right, but i think that 90% of the casses it's up to you, btw, in the "sierra" tarahumara indigenous people say no, to growing marijuana, and now they're cultivating advocatos, the braves rules if the cowards allow them
vladnek 4 months ago
tijuana mexico ;) is that fever ray soundtrack?
vladnek 5 months ago
i remember that story in the news i mean it really happened, a miss narco
RazzoRojas 5 months ago
@RazzoRojas yeah i remember to this history :)
paulmoon1990 4 months ago
theburrita you are retarded. no se como puedes estar tan orgullosa de tu triste pais que sigue y siempre sera un pais del tercer mundo. puta.
pinkphlegm 5 months ago
@pinkphlegm
A chingar a tu madre, PUTO.
EmiaMuR 5 months ago
chinguen su madre pinches perros MEXICO ES MEXICO, y aunque este de la chingada somos un pais con mucho potencial asi que traguense sus palabras aun asi los NORTEAMERICANOS siguen viniendo de vacaciones y a dejarnos su mugroso dinero , aqui an muerto miles de americanos y aun asi siguen viniendo
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This looks incredible!
DillonTexas 5 months ago
americans are the worse trash in the whole world
psalmjust 5 months ago
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this looks really good.
minzarella 5 months ago
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Ahi esta el enlace para la Cancion del trailer. Super Facil. Lo unico que tienen que hacer es poner un punto despues de las tres w y luego poner un punto antes de la palabra com
danieluag 5 months ago
@EPGAH Oh and one more thing, yea theyll keep the infection out once people in th UNITED STATES stops buying the drugs, you honestly think this is all one sided? people on the other side are just providing sometihing that people here are willing to buy, now im not saying that the US is their only customer, but I highly doubt building a "wall" will fix anything.
rolsan88 5 months ago
@rolsan88 There's a "market" for everything, but that doesn't mean it should be allowed. You could justify whores or contract killing with the same argument.
America has its own crime, I'll be the First to go along with that, but that just means an extra reason why we don't need Mexico's in addition to our own.
And yes, it showed her as a "poor innocent victim", but like "Mary Full of Grace" she AVOIDS, rather than seek out people offering help once on the civilized side of the border
EPGAH 5 months ago
what part of the trailer did you not get? the part where they are ambushed at the party and everyone gets killed but her? the part where she had a bag over her head in the back of the car? looks to me like she didnt have a choice it was more either you do what we say or we kill you! try researching the plot of the movie a little more. its not glorifying anything! its showing how people like her sometimes get involved in the cartel war against their will.
rolsan88 5 months ago
@rolsan88 If Mexicans' obedience could be compelled by gunpoint, then our Border Patrol is CLEARLY going about it all wrong! But how did they compel her obedience once she was out of their line-of-sight/line-of-fire?
Also, the same Cartel scum that are bringing DRUGS into America are bringing THUGS into America. If Mexico stopped the movement of one, it would automatically hamper the other.
They think they can dump their people on us and yet stop the drug trade. Truly "magical" thinking!
EPGAH 5 months ago
@EPGAH Cartels target your family not you. THAT how how they "compel" you. "Do as I say or your wife, children, parents, brother, sister etc. gets it!" That is called their "Plata o Plomo" policy. Silver or Lead. You either accept their commands by bribe or by bullets. And actually the Cartel scumbags are importing thugs FROM the U.S. from street gangs because in Mexico they are being slaughtered like pigs and can't replenish their ranks as many people would rather fight or die than join them.
xm377Moyocoyatzin 5 months ago
can i find this in netflix???
99cacahuate 5 months ago
: D
oursaintsaviour 5 months ago 8
I can't understand what this movie is about from the trailer alone. I guess it's trying to tell me I'm too dumb to see it.
tangos 5 months ago
@tangos It's a story about a woman who gets caught up and entangled in the underworld of drug trafficking as it also crosses the visible world of beauty pageants. It's a Mexican movie so expect a lot of deep and hidden messages and metaphors about the bigger picture picture.
xm377Moyocoyatzin 5 months ago
@xm377Moyocoyatzin How did she "accidentally" get caught up and entangled in the world of drug-trafficking? Did she accidentally puff cocaine on her face instead of makeup?
To me, it resembles "Maria Full Of 'Grace'", the mule who swallowed drug-balloons, got caught, but lied to the Americans who offered help, a way OUT of the world of thugs&drugs. What "metaphor" was that?!
If they pit themselves against our law, whatever happens to them is fully deserved, don't you think?
EPGAH 5 months ago
@EPGAH @EPGAH You obviously have no friggin idea how Cartels "recruit" people. You imply that she took drugs herself and that that is how she became entangled with drugs because she was a drug user herself. This is not the case here, try watching the movie instead of talking about something you know absolutely nothing about. The story is of a girl who just wanted to be a model but the fiends behind the trade fuck her over.
xm377Moyocoyatzin 5 months ago
@xm377Moyocoyatzin In "real" life, we have to chase them away from halfway houses, but it's harder and harder to do as criminals get more "rights" and cops get sued if they use force on habitual criminals...But they don't respond to anything else.
You're right, the trailer is not a good way to judge the movie, but there's a long "tradition" of making criminals seem glorious, their servants seem like innocent dupes, and generally discarding that annoying concept of Right vs. Wrong
EPGAH 5 months ago
@EPGAH Criminals getting more rights? I have to call bullshit when all a fucking cop has to do is say "Probable Cause" in court and be absolved from all punishment for beating up or extorting anyone they wish.
watch?v=vgr2-NIlG6I
watch?v=PYixzF-SX4E
watch?v=XfM5V2MoTJI
Besides, you are the last person who should be talking about what is right and what is wrong as you've shown yourself to be completely inept and unwilling to even understanding the concept.
xm377Moyocoyatzin 5 months ago
@xm377Moyocoyatzin America is a separate country seeking Self-Determination, but Mexico is not even willing to respect the border, much less "lesser laws" once within our country, then they wonder why we consider them as less, rather than equal, and/or why we don't give a (expletive of your choice) about their rights or their "sovereignty", and Mexico talking about being an "Independent Country" sounds like absolute hypocritical bullshit equal to or surpassing Obama's!
EPGAH 5 months ago
@EPGAH Now when you say "Mexico" do you mean our Mexican Government, All 112 million Mexicans in Mexico itself, all 120+ million Mexicans world wide, or are you just talking about a few hundred stupid ass little cholos that can't even speak neither English nor Spanish properly inside the U.S.?
xm377Moyocoyatzin 5 months ago
@xm377Moyocoyatzin I'm talking about the 14-50 MILLION that came into America, march in our streets, bitching that we're not doing "enough" for the invaders, then call us racist for wanting them to either stay out, or behave when they come in.
EPGAH 5 months ago
@EPGAH There are barely 9 million Mexicans in the U.S. And if you are talking about the May Day Marches those were to tell the Federal Gov to get off it's fucking ass and FIX the immigration problem. The purpose of the march was so that people STOP Being "illegals" and that there be a more efficient, transparent, and comprehensible road to naturalization and citizenship. How in hell is this a bad thing? Only your imagination can justify that.
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xm377Moyocoyatzin 5 months ago
@xm377Moyocoyatzin There's already a road to citizenship, but it starts on the OTHER side of the border, not ours! If you want to be a citizen, apply like everyone else. If we say no, that's "NO, stay out", not "NO, but sneak in anyways and wonder why you are unwanted"!
How is it a bad thing for a country--even the "hated" America--to decide whom to let in and whom not to, ESPECIALLY when the Family Reunification Act means we have to take a whole family, rather than just one worthy immigrant?
EPGAH 5 months ago
@xm377Moyocoyatzin PS, our immigration system works when it keeps people we don't want OUT. It does not "fail to let them in". Immigration is a FAVOR granted by the receiving country, not a birthright of the donor country!
Also, if the ones misbehaving are just cholos, not "REAL" Mexicans, then what is MALDEF? Cholos that had enough self-discipline to get law-degrees to break our laws without repercussions, and/or turn them against the Americans?
EPGAH 5 months ago
@xm377Moyocoyatzin Americans have been telling the Government to fix the immigration problem since 1954, if they won't do it for us, why would they do it for some ingrate invaders?
EPGAH 5 months ago
@xm377Moyocoyatzin Remember, Calderon said there were 50 MILLION people in America who still had loyalty to the wrong side of the border. You'd think an antagonistic foreign power would want to DOWNPLAY how much of their trash was in America, not BRAG about it?
Maybe he was trolling, maybe he was serious, but instead of calling him on it, Obama just laughed, accepting the implied insult. (The benefits that drew them to America weren't enough to buy their loyalty?)
EPGAH 5 months ago
@EPGAH If you have seen the Zapatista message video I sent you you would know Mexicans have been bred for 500 years to resist, to live as we are or die as we are but NEVER to give up our dignity that is our identity and our loyalty only to ourselves and never to any foreign power and much less to a racist and hostile one. Again, 50 million is almost 50% of Mexico. The number is around 9-10 million Mexicans who are both legal and illegal living inside the U.S. (8% of Mexican pop)
xm377Moyocoyatzin 5 months ago
@xm377Moyocoyatzin Yes, but resist in their own country, not ours. They came here for a better life? Then they need to follow OUR rules. Following the same ways that made them losers in their own country will make them even BIGGER losers here.
And if we're racist and hostile, then they can find a country more palatable to invade. I recommend China!
Why did Calderon brag about 50 MILLION then, if he only "meant" 9-10 million? To prove Obama didn't have a spine? We knew that already!
EPGAH 5 months ago
@EPGAH Your ancestors did not follow either the rules of England nor of the Indigenous people in order to establish themselves here. And even after the U.S. was established it was founded on blatant rule breaking and double dealings with Indigenous Nations, Canada, Mexico, and Hawaii. How many immigrants from Europe came here because they had murdered someone back home and was wanted, or was escaping debt, running from persecution or simply coming here for the opportunity?
xm377Moyocoyatzin 5 months ago
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@EPGAH Your ancestors did not follow either the rules of England nor of the Indigenous people in order to establish themselves here. And even after the U.S. was established it was founded on blatant rule breaking and double dealings with Indigenous Nations, Canada, Mexico, and Hawaii. How many immigrants from Europe came here because they had murdered someone back home and was wanted, or was escaping debt, running from persecution or simply coming here for the opportunity?
xm377Moyocoyatzin 5 months ago
@xm377Moyocoyatzin PS, if cops really WERE as violent, powerful, and/or even "Out Of Control" as you say, wouldn't invaders be AFRAID to come to America, much less commit crimes here, for fear of getting a richly-deserved beating? There would be a cartoon-level exodus of criminals, especially foreign criminals.
Instead, they KEEP invading, apparently seeking power through feigned victimhood, whining about being "targeted" or "exploited", but it's a consequence of THEIR collective actions!
EPGAH 5 months ago
@EPGAH Again, you are projecting the antics of a few American bred clowns with a foreignesque tinge unto all Mexicans. And then you wonder why people call you racist and prejudiced when you act racist and prejudiced.
xm377Moyocoyatzin 5 months ago
@xm377Moyocoyatzin I don't care about the actions of Mexicans in Mexico, it's when they make their problems/people OUR problem that Americans care.
Indeed, if Mexico kept their people to themselves, and recalled the defective units they'd already let into America, I bet we'd have ZERO problems WITH MEXICANS, don't you think?
Show me Americans marching, "WE WILL NOT COMPLY" in Mexico, if you believe there is a reciprocal problem? Show me Americans causing problems in Mexico?
EPGAH 5 months ago
@EPGAH You want to see Americans Marching in Mexico saying "we will not comply?" Open your history book and Look up the Texan Revolt, The Punitive Expedition, The United States occupation of Veracruz, and the Intervention against the Zapatistas after NAFTA.
xm377Moyocoyatzin 5 months ago
@xm377Moyocoyatzin Well, if the Texan revolt was a problem, then so was Mexico's revolt against Spain. You don't sell someone something and tell them how to use it. Who does Mexico think they are, Microsoft?
The Punitive Expedition was exactly that, PUNISHMENT! Villa and his Villains attacked Santa Fe, which even then was American territory.
The Zapatistas was sold to Americans as "Mexico can't handle their rebels, we're helping"...
EPGAH 5 months ago
@xm377Moyocoyatzin I'm talking about civilians. American civilians going into Mexico and rioting, disobeying the laws, and whining about "racism" when the punishment comes down.
I DID read one Mexican claim that after a crime is "over and done with" the perpetrator is no longer a criminal. Is that a widespread belief by Mexicans? It's the only way to explain their widespread mental disconnect between action and punishment...
EPGAH 5 months ago
@EPGAH I have never heard of such a ridiculous law. And in a country where they believe crime leaves a mark on your very "soul" I very highly doubt anyone in Mexico would even comprehend what you just said. After a Crime or evil act there is Guilt and 2+2=4. Why do I even need to be explaining this?
xm377Moyocoyatzin 5 months ago
@xm377Moyocoyatzin Because Mexicans claimed not to get that the marches in the street brought a crackdown, or that Villa's attack on New Mexico brought a reprisal.
If criminals can conduct reprisals against Mexicans, how much more can a COUNTRY? And they whine, "You're only picking on us because we're Mexican", or call us racist for punishing THEIR actions, which is really not a great way to score brownie points with the people whose country you're not supposed to be in!
EPGAH 5 months ago
@xm377Moyocoyatzin As to guilt, Mexico may or may not feel guilt, but refused to pay the upkeep for their illegals in California, dismissing out-of-hand two lawsuits to that end, and sued Arizona for trying to drive out their scum. Then they have the unmitigated call to complain about TEXAS violating "international law" by executing a pedophile Mexico couldn't be bothered hanging onto?!
This indicates Mexico is fully behind their crimes, and wants them to continue, "marked soul" or not!
EPGAH 5 months ago
@xm377Moyocoyatzin PS, I never said law, I said CONCEPT...It's the only way to explain such widespread expectation to misbehave without getting punished, and/or calling the punishment "racist" as if we're punishing what they ARE, rather than what they DID!
Again, Americans could not get lesser punishment in any other country breaking laws, then whining, "You're only picking on us 'cause we're WHITE!" And in some countries, that could actually accrue HARSHER punishment for "resistance", etc.
EPGAH 5 months ago
Just what we needed, another film glorifying Mexico's narcos and mules!
EPGAH 5 months ago
@EPGAH wow... I don't think anyone else has missed the point of this movie that bad.
xm377Moyocoyatzin 5 months ago
give saintsaviour credit!
burubudur12345 5 months ago
(What's the tune playing here?)
Sablicious 5 months ago
Mexico is like the hooker that had unprotected sex with an AIDS infected trick, the US.
Sablicious 5 months ago
@Sablicious Then they should not have prevented America from building a wall and keeping their infection out!
EPGAH 5 months ago
@EPGAH Yeah. The 'Jew solution'.
Works wonders in Israel...
Sablicious 5 months ago 2
Saint Saviour song!!!
Lemur265 5 months ago
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I watched it today. It IS a MUST SEE.
andemo34 5 months ago
Looks like a must see...
proceedapathy 5 months ago
Looks good!
j3694 5 months ago
Music please?
stevendufour 5 months ago
@stevendufour that's what i want to know. that looks pretty damn cool.
thevoid99 5 months ago
@thevoid99 Ok, after a little digging i've finally found out:
Trailer music by Saint Saviour - This ain't no hymph
stevendufour 5 months ago 21
@stevendufour err This ain't no hymn :P
burubudur12345 5 months ago
No me la pierdo!
528gh0st 5 months ago
Yes
ItsMex8 5 months ago
En Buenos Aires para cuando? Avisen muchachos!!! @BA_Voice
juanmro 5 months ago
uuuuuu quiero verla.
filatetes 5 months ago
tiene partes grabadas en aguascalientes verdad?
melmaniaco 5 months ago