Khuda kay liay-darhi and music

[tamoorshah5]

OH this is wrong

[03454433061]

mosicy shataan ki awaaz hy (haees shreef)

[fahd090078601]

@03454433061 moseeqi bajany waly aur sunany waly kafir aur wajib ul qatal hain

[gangxta87]

@fahd090078601 tere maa maai lun gandu.. phir tu yahan kya gand marwa raha hai youtube pay? ganay nai sunta? chuteya..

[apexbeat777]

fantastic comments,,,

[alishaaliz]

one sided drum (duff) is allowed. thats it. we should nt enquire why is it so ? Allah's prophet said and we believe it. its a common sense , music n girls & boys dancing on its tunes. are these the characteristics of MUSLIMS??

And this maulana i know , Bros its a film just lik other films. Its not a religious discussion goin on in there. Shooaib mansoor did this all just to satisfy himself. As junaid jamshaid refused to work in this film.he said Music is haram n left it.

[Mahaj85]

what the hell... I'm surprised ... tum logon ko dimaag sahi hay ... tum logon ne is khabees insaan k dialogue suney hain ... bas wah wah kerahe jarahey hain

Khabeeson tumhe ho kiya gayah hay jangli kahin k ..

[f67890]

@Mahaj85 DIALOGUES MEIN KIA KHARABI HAI AUR @ RAZANOMAN TUO DAF KIA THA AUR HAI

[BaadshaahG]

hadith sharif hai yahoodiyon si mushahbat mat karo.

[BaadshaahG]

daod as ko ALLAH ne awaz di.lekin wo ALLAH ki hamd karte the.or mosiqi mein bohat farq hai

[f67890]

@BaadshaahG FARQ HAI LEKIN MUSIC KHARAM NAHI HAI

[adnanahmad23]

@BaadshaahG

Exactly. Aur Inhain Awaz se Hamd karnay aur Musical instrument main farq hi samaj nahi aata.

[zagham99]

kuda liy good movie and good upload

[sabakhan06]

its duty of every muslim if he or she know any verse of quran tell other person ---its not enough that we born muslim and we have a islamic name islam tells us only follow the quran and sunnaha

[sabakhan06]

we have also resposibal to search truth but normally we always blame mulla and then finish if mulla is not doing his duty properly we should try

[sabakhan06]

if a driver driving not properly its fault of driver not car ----if some black shep are misusing any religion we can not blame religion hitler killed thousands of peopel but we can not blame christune when we start to blame islam or ulma we should consider our daily life routine how much we impliment islam in whole day because not only ulma is resposibal

[MCNOISE666]

Good words - respect. One slight correction - Hitler wasn't a practicing christian. Nazi's were nothing to do with christianity.

[adnanahmad23]

@MCNOISE666

When u call he's athiest .. the athiests have objections and say he was christian... No consensus even on this..

[sabakhan06]

yes we have also black sheaps but in every profession same if my mother will sick i will go to doctor and if this doctor will not properly treat i will go to another doctor but not stay at home same if we will not satisfied an alim we will go other

[sabakhan06]

those peopel who are killing innocent peopel they dont have religion and those peopeel whoare insulting islam we can not lern them eqtual whole film have two part in one part they want to show that the actual islam is so backword and our islamic ulma misguiding us and second part is belong to terror means how america can behve you

[sabakhan06]

its fault of muslims not fault of islam we are divided becaue of ignorenec if we read quran and sunnaha we will never divied and islam is not only belive that you belive only that ITS A GREAT RELIGION we should impliment the rules of quran then we see the result

[rizwan1003]

Yes, right. Now, you got the my point. We are divided, it is the fault of Muslims as you say. This is what this movie is trying to convey that we are divided but be tolerant of others don't kill people in the name of religion.

[rizwan1003]

I totally agree with you that Islam is the fastest growing religion and Quran tells all about Islam, and that off course Quran is the greatest book of all. And that if some one read Quran he can know all about the great religion Islam. I again agree that Islam is the fastest growing religion of the world. And the fact is that all those aalims have read Quran. But can you explan me why there are so many sects in this great religion. why there are wahabis sunnis shias shafis saflis and what not.

[sabakhankar]

meray bhaye islam is religion of tolerance its like quran says dont kill the innocent peopel even he is muslimand non muslim and ap nay kaha kay her alim ka apna islamhay ap nay dunya ka her ilm phura but quran nahi phura apnay wo bat kehdi meray bhaye ju media keh raha hay fastest growing religion is waga sa hay na kay is ma logo ko life ka aim nazar ata hay

[rizwan1003]

You are right brother in saying that there is Quran and Sunnah and there are a lot of Scholars to explain those and yes indeed Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. But all I am is that be tolerant of other religions and people. They usually don't think the way you think. Let them live don't kill them in the name of GOD. All those scholars who are there to explain Quran and Sunnah can have different perceptions and thus their explainations can contradict with each other.

[sabakhan06]

brother if you want to judge islam dont see follwers see the quran what quran say quran says that you cant force to any body i am not talking about taliban and other islamic org i am talking about quran and sunnha and may be for its dream to telling truth but there are lotof schoolers and oter peopel they are doing this job and at this time islam is a fastest growing religion in the world if you study quran its only matter of study all thinks depend on us

[rizwan1003]

Media is a place to express views, any one can express his/her views. You can also express your views, its so simple. But the problem arises when one tries to impose his/her views on everybody, when one wants everybody to think like him/her. Thats what Americans and Taliban are doing. They both want everybody to think and look like them.

(Cont'd)

[rizwan1003]

That could be a good dream but it is very unlikely to happen. To tell you the truth there are several versions of Islam and beholder of all those versions think that they are right. Its alright to have your own thoughts about religion but when you try to impose your thoughts on others, thats bad.

(Cont'd)

[rizwan1003]

Like in Swat, how tragic it is that some people are destroying the girls schools, in the name of GOD, because female education is haram in their version of Shariah and they don't want to give girl the right to be educated. We should pray to Allah that things work out good there and May Allah give them Hidaya.

[sabakhankar]

media is mind making tool brother if you will talk as just normal men or as a seculer so you will ignore any thing but if you will think as a muslim you will feel insult ---so brother we are suffer for big problums not for money reson is systum quran when we buy a computer we got a catlog book to operate this machine so Allaha give us a catlog book in form of quran if we will follw our life acording quran then every thing will be normal and if we will ignoer then so much problums

[sabakhankar]

now we muslims are in verry bed condition we are follow film khuda kay liya and fatwa of nasiruddin sha its tottaly shame full for us

[rizwan1003]

BED Condition is great, lol!!

Well, anyways this is just a view point, nobody should take it as a Fatwa. This clip is the part of a feature film not an "Ask an Imam" or "Aalim Online" program. You can either take this view point of leave it, its totally up to you. Nobody is forcing you to do anything, I believe thats what the theme of this movie is.

[aadnan5]

I think most of the people arguing about Music listin to it on a daily bases.

[zubairnetwork]

Zuboor utha ker dekhiya? Where can i find true zuboor

[laeeqahmed1980]

Shoaib mansoor ko yeh sary issues nahi othanay chahyey thay. Junaid ki wajah say itnay dil bardashta howay kay onhain yeh sab kuch karna parha. Apni baat prove karnay kay liay naseer shah say bohot kuch bulwa lia.

[aadnan5]

Why are we so concerned about beards, hajab and what clothes to wear and forget the basic pillars of Islam. We have created different sects on the basis of small things such as green turbans vs white. Lenght of Shalwar or the way you wear Hajab. Then we look down on people who are a little bit different than us and think that because they are different they will go to hell.

[greenvox]

poorly researched. this movie makes us, the people who actively research islam look like fools, when infact it is rediculously amatuerish.

[razanoman]

"There will be a people of my Ummah (nation) who will seek to make lawful: fornication, the wearing of silk, wine - drinking and the use of musical instruments." (Bukhari - 837 /2)

[aadnan5]

If there was so much importance about music in Islam then why was it not banned in Quran.Infact when Muhammad (pbuh) came to Madina he was greeted by girls playing drums. He enjoyed that. So are you telling me the drums are not musical instruments?

[razanoman]

there is a difference in 'exception' and 'norm'

[aadnan5]

So certain instrument are Halal and others are Haram. Duff is Halal but Drums are Haram because they make a haram noise???

Brother today the whole world is looking at us. If we continue our old arguments and dont change with time we will perish from earth. Prophet never intended for us to follow 1400 year old customs. Islam gives us guide lines which are universal which dont fade with time but customs do. Example keeping a beard. It was a custom for that time.

[omairmazhar]

the girls played DUFF.....not drums

drums are percussion instruments and they are not permissible...only the duff is

[aadnan5]

What is name of DUFF in English. So are you saying that instead of playing "DUFF" if they had drum, do you think the prophet would have been angry and left Madinah. Please brothers dont make Islam so complicated.

[omairmazhar]

DUFF is called a tambourine in English language,my dear brother.

Islam is not complicated-its very clear about its rules. some ppl make it complicated by thinking that everything is permissible in Islam-but sadly its not true

[aadnan5]

"Its drinking and using musical instruments" This is a Hadit.

There is another Hadith where some people from Habshah were dancing and Prophet carried BIBI Ayesha on his shoulders to show her the dancing. Please make Islam easy and please be inclusive of all muslims. May Allah guide us all. Love for all.

[f67890]

@razanoman I AGREE BUT TELL ME DUFF KIA HAI AUR AUS KO KIS MEIN SHAMIL KARO GAY AAP

[saadisonline]

Rasool (saw) said that, 2There will be people of my Ummah who will seek to make lawful; fornication, wine-drinking and the use of ma`aazif ( musical instruments ).` If music is allowed why would Muhammad(saw) compare it to wine and fornication. lol Are you telling me that scholars differ on that statement. Also if it was allowed why was music banned in Arabia when Muhammad(saw) started preachng Islam.

[asifbsu]

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[asifbsu]

very good.

[maryambintimran]

contdd.... (THIS IS THE FINAL PART OF MY COMMENT), I HAVE POSTED IT IN NINE STEPS, I'VE NUMBERED IT, PLEASE READ IT AND BE AWARE OF THESE MOVIES WHICH ARE SPREADING WRONG MESSAGE OF ISLAM AND MISQUOTING ISLAM. JAZAK-ALLAH KHAIR. ASSALAMUALAIKUM.

[omairmazhar]

good job

[maryambintimran]

contdd...10) BEARD: The most grevious mistake he made is, he said that beard is not fard, he is absolutely wrong. All the imams and scholars at the time of sahabah, tabaeen, they hold the opinion that it is wajib, and few hold that its sunnah-al-mawkadah. And he mentioned about ishq-e-rasul and he said there are steps to it, this is all playing with words. Never did rasul-ullah said these things,whatever he said we have to do and what he refrained from we have to avoid it.

[kaiser6665]

unfortunately all mess by so called funny hadiths,,i can prove anything from hadith,,even good or bad,,just put anything i will prove to u,,,,

[maryambintimran]

contdd...9) DRESS: He said clothes are part of this world and not a part of religion, again he is wrong. All scholars agree that it is not compulsory to wear a particular type of dress, but there is a dress code and it is clearly mentioned in hadith.

[maryambintimran]

contdd...8) MIXING WORLDLY THINGS (MAASHIRAT) AND RELIGIOUS THINGS (MAZHAB): Here again he says that many people mix worldly things and religious things. but one should realize that there is nothing like worldly and religious things. Islam is a way of life, we have to see each and every thing in this world according to what ALLAH, and his rasul says.

[maryambintimran]

But as I proved before dawood (pbuh) never used music, so this argument is wrong at the start itself.

[kaiser6665]

sahi Bukhari mentioned music,,as halal...so u r trying to say that sahi bukhari is shit book(well it is)..lol

[maryambintimran]

contdd...But as I proved before dawood (pbuh) never used music, so this argument is wrong at the start itself.

[maryambintimran]

contdd.. 7) HARAM AND HALAL: Again here he mentioned that whether rasullah (pbuh) will ever allow a thing haram which is halal for dawood (pbuh), again he forgot one point that the shariah of dawood (pbuh) was for his time period, and its not necessary that things which were halal at that time is halal for us too. For example, it was allowed to do sajdah, with respect, till the time of yusuf (pbuh) but now its haram. (see tafsir ibn-kathir, surah yusuf, verse-100).

[kaiser6665]

so u r trying to tell ,that Allah swt has different messages for different prophets(s)?

why Allah swt forget to mention about beard & music,,which r major things ,in Quran???

[omairmazhar]

because ALLAH said "OBEDIENCE TO THE MESSENGER IS OBEDIENCE TO ALLAH" in the Quran

if Allah wanted everything commandment to be in the Quran,then y did he choose a prophet to preach?

[maryambintimran]

contdd. 6) Now as far as the hadith of AISHAH (RA) AND HAZRAT ABU-MUSA AL-ASH'ARI (RA), here music is not mentioned it only mentions using your voice to read some good words or if a person sings a song without music, and the content is according to the shariah then its ok according to scholars

[maryambintimran]

5) Detailed analysis of the arabic word `ma`aazif ` shows that it refers to musical instruments, the sounds of those musical instruments and singing with the accompaniment of instruments

[maryambintimran]

contdd.. 4) One hadith from the SAHIH AL-BUKHARI, the most authentic Book of Hadith, further confirms unlawfulness of music and singing : There will be people of my Ummah who will seek to make lawful; fornication, wine-drinking and the use of ma`aazif ( musical instruments ).`

[kaiser6665]

sahi bukhari mentioned twice that priophet(sa) either listened music or let other so....so....lol

[maryambintimran]

contdd. This view is unanimously supported by the four Khalifas, the eminent Sahabaah, Tabi`een, the four Imaams and other reliable Islaamic scholars and authorities.

[kaiser6665]

4 imams r themslesves so much confused....they all nullify eacg other,,wow what islam they have..lol

[omairmazhar]

not a single imam nullified the othr....i'd suggest u study their life history before opening your mouth

[maryambintimran]

contdd. 3)AUTHENTIC RULING OF MUSIC : When Sayyidana Abdullah Ibne Mas`ood , a very close companion of our Prophet was asked about the meaning of the term `lahwal hadith` (surah luqman, chapter-31, verse-6), he replied "I swear by Him besides whom there is no other God, that it refers to ghinaa (singing or music )."This statement, he repeated three times.

[maryambintimran]

contdd...2)As far as music is concerned, he gave a very wrong proof. He mentioned about DAWOOD (pbuh) and wrongly interpreted that he was given "music". This is totally wrong, DAWOOD (pbuh) had good voice, but he never used music, there is no proof for it. And to give a reference of zaboor which is not available in its original form today is wrong.

[maryambintimran]

CONTDD...1)He said marrying "ahle-kitab" is not recommended, and he compared it with wine and lying. However, comparing a "halal" with "haram" in itself is wrong. The ruling for Halal and Haram are different.

[maryambintimran]

ASSALAMUALAIKUM BROTHERS AND SISTERS, PLEASE READ, PLEASE. This movie clip is really misguiding, brothers and sisters always get authentic knowledge from authentic sources and not from these types of movies. I haven't seen this movie, and inshALLAH will never do it, but while searching for music and islam, I found this clip. I will like to INSHALLAH clarify the major errors which this man made.

[Thothali]

The gist of this movie was just this much: "Junaid! You were wrong! Music ain't haram dude. Come lets make music!!!"

Qirat and Music being spoken of as synonymous! Sigh! What else?

[nicklejenopus]

the discussion about music in this movie is totally misguiding. Two different things have been totally mixed together to legalize the music. No Aalim has ever said, that having a melodious voice or to recite Quran, Hamd and Naat or Nasheeds in good voice is prohibited.

[nicklejenopus]

I would also like to comment on a phrase "Zaboor utha ke dekhiye". Where is Zaboor ? If there is one - as far as I know it is known as a part of old testament apart Torah - why Allah said in Quran, that the other 3 books (except Quran) have been changed ? There are HADITHS, which clearly instruct us to prevent ourselves from music.

[nicklejenopus]

I do agree with many of the given points. But there are some points, which are misguiding.

As far as the voice of Dawud A.S is concerned, I have heard nowhere, that he was a musician. He had a melodious voice and infact in Paradise (Jannah) Allah will ask him to recite Quran in his voice.

[rahimy]

nice one !

[07punjab]

Love It

[bravoguypk]

love this movie, he actually showed the other side of the picture, he may be wrong in some of his perceptions but definitely he urge the normal people to use their brain instead of any maulana.

[zuhaibhayat]

tauba tauba

[virgotrouble]

Good One...

Thanks for the Upload. Very Soon you will be receiving alots of comments against it.

As the two people before me and the ones...

[asfeen]

This movie is a good production, but it has provided too much of a wrong information.

[virgotrouble]

How do you call it wrong information? This information could be misleading but not wrong.

[rizwan1003]

What information is wrong in this clip?

[asfeen]

Cannot go in detail since there is charecter limit here.

1. No Prophet is superior to other, they may have different miracles. in this clip he said because 4 prophet had book they are superior.

2. The miracle of Hazrat Dawood was his melodies voice, not music. Allah loves the ricitation of His books in different styles, that does not mean music.

[virgotrouble]

First of all "Allah" please forgive me if I say somthing wrong.

Asfeen your first point. I do not know how good your Urdu is but the word he used is that context does not mean that these 4 Prophets were Superior. It means that they were selected to have THE BOOK.

2nd. I do not know whether Hazarat Dawood used any musical Instuments or not but Voice is part of the music and other thing is there is alot of musical instuments are used in Naats now a days.

[asfeen]

In general conversation "Barguzeeda" is used for someone who is respectable and poise. And using it comparitively means about same as I said before.

And the term they confused in this scene is that Hazrat Dawood was known for the "Soz" (melody) in his voice but the used it as "Saaz" (musical instrument).

[asfeen]

Using musical instrument in Naats, does not make it authenticated. In fact if music is NaJaaiz (which i think it is) then using it with Naat or Quran is even more disrespectful.

[rizwan1003]

@Asfeen, if u think that music is produced only with musical instruments, u r wrong. Singing without instruments is also music. And most of the scholars agree that singing without instruments is not haram, provided that the content of the song is not obscene. And I believe that the Naats r sung too, so that makes it a kind of a music.

[asfeen]

i m not sure if you understand my point. i said most of the musical instruments are not allowed. it's upto you if you would like to generalize voice as music. but that does not change the reality

[aadnan5]

Tambourine is Halal and Drums are not???? Please brother just listen to youself. If you research hard you will no the there were no drums in Arabia at that time. Islam is going through a very hard times. We as people have become very backward and ignorant. We try to follow Arab culture which is 1400 year and not Islam. If we are stuck in this arguments about what musical instruments are halal and Haram the world will pass us by.

[exwahabii]

motherfukers who made this movie