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  • Are you serious? It's a very common problem for a lot of drummers, especially beginners to get carpel syndrome of tendinitis because you're holding your sticks wrong and using too much vertical movement over horizontal movement. I'm a guitarist myself, holding a guitar pick is one of the hardest things figuring out when it comes down to pure technique and you can get damaged if you don't hold it correctly. I figure holding your drumsticks is equally important, don't you agree?

  • @ShredableGuitar

    Well, i played guitar 4 years and played rockband for a few months before i bought a drumset, which i play almost everyday for the past couple years, so no one taught me how to hold sticks or picks, and according to my other musician freinds, i'm pretty good at both.

    If you're 7, yeah this vid will help, but if you're 12 or older then after looking at how everyone else holds thier sticks, it shouldn't be that hard.

  • According to your friends you're pretty good at both.Made me laugh a little bit. Would you mind putting something up on youtube? Even amazing virtuoso players like Paul Gilbert held the pick wrong and damaged themselves, eventually having to retrain a part of their technique and relearning how to hold their pick. What's to interesting is that you actually came to watch this video... why did you end up here? Because you wanted to learn how to hold a drumstick or because you're a nolifer?

  • If anyone has to be taught how to hold a drumstick, they shouldn't be a drummer....

    Sticking is important, but if anyone is so terrible that they have to check Expertvillage how to hold it, they should become a guitarist.

  • thanks for going over a "ton" of things .... today...lol

  • thanks

    

  • `look at the ad on the right of the video. that is cobus. he is a REAL DRUMMER!!!!

  • I'm pretty sure he is holding the stick like he would hold bicycle handlebars.

  • Cant touch the butt with my hands, just leave it hangin'

  • Its called the butt of the stick....

    Really?

  • Basic rock drumming, I like to call it, rock drumming 101, the basics(A little redundant don't you think?) and that's umm.... basically how you're suppose to hold a drumstick, I guess.....and that's a terrible way to do your strokes...

  • woops i clicked on expert village

  • i liked it good job

  • im stuck with learning ruddiments got any advice

    

  • how dare you take my name?

  • Thanks! for really beginners (like me) this is really helpful

  • this guy should shove a drumstick up his ass for making this video

  • this is wrong , you want to find the balance point on both sticks and I would advocate that so call handle bar grip for match grip or the right hand in traditional it allows the stick to bounce.

  • this is a fucking bullshit. that is just wrong. for all of you who really want to learn the basics purchase or download jojo mayer's secret weapons of a modern drummer which is much more efficiant than this shit.

    and that is not how the sticks are held you retard

  • Only 138 597 videos?

    .....Okay thats just too much!!!

  • I don't shake hands with my left hand.

    

  • lol hahaha

  • @magazzg931 he said like ur going to

  • so why, when i'm watching Thomas Lang kick out some saweet beats does this appear at the side? its like watching a hot woman strip then going home and finding a picture of Susan Boyle on Google... it just doesn't fucking happen!!!

  • hey good vid, but something that bothers me like crazy is when I hold it, People say to put the stick on the first knuckle of ur finger. I tend to hold it on the 2nd knuckle and when i play fast or for a very long time, my skin peels and it starts to hurt. when I try to hold it on the first knuckle, it slides back to the 2nd knuckle by it self. THIS REALLY BOTHERS Me, SOMEONE HELP!!

  • I dunno what's with the sarcastic comments. This was quite helpful to me. I've been playing the guitar for a long time, but I recently got a floor tom to practice drumming with and although I'm familiar with rhythm work, I had no idea what the right way was to hold the sticks. Sweet vid.

  • mmmm okay?

  • Wow I didn't know how to hold a drum stick THANKS, ass hole

  • Am I the only one that noticed that this video is 2:22?

  • normal people shake hands with their right hand. ok go

  • is it just me or does he sound like Mr.Makey

    "mmkay"

  • Hold it like you would hold a knife pretty much

  • Alt + F4 to skip adverts :)

  • spierdalaj grubasie

  • loser grip.. EXACTLY!!!

  • I heard basix :D

  • loser grip

  • @solidclosure11 hahahahahaha. i lol'ed

  • I'm not taking advice unless I see the user perform some Buddy Rich fills. Then I'll know that he knows what he's talking about.

  • What the fuck is your problem???If you don't like expert village don't click on there vids.Learn it youreself than

  • nice half broken stick dick wad. whered  you find your wife at a comic convention??

  • @GRIZZLYBOUDWIN haha nice joke, very creative and its not lame at all. *sarcasm* did Dug Williams write your jokes? do i need to get Jamie Foxx in here?

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  • @dustin102432 your funny. NOT!!!

  • @GRIZZLYBOUDWIN wasnt trying to be funny like your sorry ass..." whered you find your wife at a comic convention??" so fuck off buddy. dont try to post lame comments and get mad when someone retaliates.

  • @dustin102432 Aww, big guy with little dick trying to make up for the shame by trying to bully others?? Hmm big guy?? Are you the one with little shameful pecker?? Need a tissue big guy?? You want Dug to get you a tissue?? Want Jamie to wipe your butt hmm?? You honestly think i'm scared of you?? Get a life fucking dick

  • @GRIZZLYBOUDWIN DO U HONESTLY think i was trying to make u scared? i wasnt threatening u. stop assuming u low life fag who lives in ur dads basement. i clearly never said anything in my previous comments for someone with sense to think i was trying to make them scared. and me? trying to pick on others? look at the comment u left on this guy about his wife.. dude you're being a hypocrite

  • @GRIZZLYBOUDWIN also its ''you're'' not "your" when u use it like that...because it would be you are not funny.

  • fuck UPS!!!!!

  • I couldn't disagree more with how to hold a drum stick.

  • good done 

  • Wow, there is a lot missing from the vertical position to when he rolls his hand over. Watch his fingers and thumb shift around to get into the "correct" grip and he doesnt' tell you what he is doing. He doesn't even mention holding the stick in the first knuckle groove of your index finger (which he is doing by the time he rotates his hand around).

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    Watch this video instead, this method much better and easier:

    watch?v=vfKj8FGvYAM

  • I'm glad there's videos like this, I just bought my first kit and didn't know ...

  • @TxMKrypted Some of it is, but this video is indeed not. The idea about gripping the stick loosely is both a great and important aspect of technique. It's all about being relaxed and not choking the stick. If you do this you won't experience fatigue as much after a show plus you achieve a killer overall drum/cymbal sound.

  • It's getting to where I see the words, "Expert Village," and I just start laughing.

  • You're really sexy. WIll you show us your cock?

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  • imagine a band doing a show and the drummer takes 2 and a hald minutes to get the stick holding right :D

  • Hey btw there is no way to hold one ok?

    Take Ringo Starr Who has been playing for years by holding sticks not that like this but in his own way!

    If he saw this video he would say:Dude!Music is for fun not for CRITIC!

  • I don't know...I think my lesson is better...

  • why the duck is the add in spanish?!?

  • mhkay

  • I cant see how you hold the stick dude. The words are blocking the goddamn screen.

  • I cant see how you hold? the words are blocking dude!

  • I dont understand why people are after abusing the Expertvillage... 

  • i have my own way of holding them and it works waayyy the fuck better so..

    FUCK EXPERT VILLAGE

  • fuck expert village!

  • @parjelly I f*cking agree with you man >: ( Just hold them!!!Duuude...

  • BeginnerVillage

  • Hi, im shaun scaefer, and im going to teach you the most toddler ass retard lesson. This is ofcoarse, brought to you by expert village

  • He also does a great vid on how to drink a glass of water. "Ok, hold your left hand like you're giving a thumbs up. If you do it thumbs down, you'll spill your water, man. Ok, now extend your fingers slowly, like this, until they're out facing the wall of your stepdad's back room. Put the thumb down as if you're acting normally. Now grab the glass, not too tight, and slowly close your hand around the glass. Like this. Now do the same with your thumb until it's touching the glass. Now lift it."

  • @seekoober you meant a glass of beer, not water ;-)

  • @seekoober HAHAHAHAHA best comment I have read in a while x'D

  • i think its really stupid how people have to show you a "certain" way to hold your sticks. just fuckin hold them, its that simple.

  • Shawn Schaeffers mom has a nice basement.

  • why is every expertvillage videos writing out of sync?

  • @ViolentBubbles because expert village is a half ass operation hoping to make money by putting out a large quantity of low quality videos. If you want to know how to clean a dinner plate, okay, use expert village (or your own common sense). If you want to know how to play drums, go elsewhere.

  • i've been holding my sticks the same i ride a bike, thanks man. God bless you and expert village.

  • biggest "thats wat she said" ever

  • worst grip ever!

  • these videos shouldnt be on youtube

  • dude dude dude the way you hold the stik depends on the styl of player... like me for example use alot of blasts so its my fingers that do most movement. your thum can sit on top for this style acts almost like a seesaw. and also its more abouit comfert than actul strict hold it like this or die... so realy you wasted almost 3 mins telling some one bull...

  • i'm sorry to say but he's holding them wrong u must hold the stick to get the best resonance from the membrane( hold it too short or too long and it won't bounce corectly), it can't be the same lenght for all people.some have more soft hands , some have more hard hands, some have more greasy or sweaty hands...u must find the right spot ... just place your hand holding the stick so it rests on your pointer finger and the drumm then move it forward or backward until it bounces the way you like

  • also check out Drum Rudiment Poster com

  • dude.... you have plastic tips on your sticks.. thats cool and all but when the tips fall off you gotta replace your stick or you will totally ruin your drum head!

  • @Joeman622 What the hell are you talking about? Nylon tip sticks are far more durable, and cause LESS wear and tear on your heads. Wood tips splinter, and cause further damage to all parts of your drum kit. Nylon tips don't do that. The only possible advantage of wood is the sound, nylon doesn't always sound the same.

  • @Joeman622 You totally ruined my head last night when you sneezed and ya teeth gouged a hole in my cock.

  • I like to call it, get a haircut and learn how to grow a beard properly. Thats whisper 3 hairs desperately trying to make out they are providing decent coverage are totally busted.

  • man u are really awesome

  • @foREVer198193 thanks handsome

  • he's pretty good

  • At least this guy doesn't spend his time going from video to video writing idiotic ramblings.

  • What was idiotic about what I said ... or was it just that I said something thats got you all hot and bothered ... as far as commenting , I have opinions on most things , so what ... thats what the comments sections are for ... you commented didnt you ?

  • What I mean is, Lighten up! On your profile all these people are telling you how much of a moron your posts make you look. Just chill out and stop hating the world.

  • so i guess their posts are more valid than mine ? Or is it just because I bother to post my opinions that rubs you the wrong way .... and if you look at the vast majority of my posts they are overwhelmingly positive ... hating on the world ? ...not really man ... just the shitty aspects

  • Whatever--I don't talk to buttheads. Have a nice day!

  • shut the hell up. What the hell is ur probelm? its ppl like u that the world is so fuckin screwed up

  • @110293m2 .... because of my posts on youtube the world is screwed up ... you mean alcohol / drug abuse , war , AIDS , corruption , poverty and greed have nothing to do with it ? Its just little ol me and my random youtube rants that have sent the world to hell ?

  • @sweetfly66  yes you screwed up youtube. i've killed a few ppl, created the a bomb, and support bioterrorism but you have f***ed up the world

  • @MultiWtfwtfwtf .... haha .... i`m sorry

  • @110293m2 you are SOOO right one person on youtube screwed up EVERTHING

  • the fulcrum is the balance point !

  • thnx man after doin tht i notice tht i play faster :D

  • my sticks are the same as yours

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  • Why do you say expert village as you are proud?

  • great video =D really helpfull ^^

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    hi-hat: "uuuhhh uhh get the fuck off me you fat boner!"

  • hahahaahhaahhaha

  • so, what was the point in sitting behind a drumkit to make this video. you haven't mentioned german vs french grip. you haven't pointed out the importance of the balance point on the stick. i feel like i am less able behind a drumkit having watched this video. happy christmas.

  • he says the BASICS and if you already know so much why are you watching the video?

  • Maybe basics should be explained better..

    Don't ask why they watch, ask why they don't make a better explanation ^^

  • @GuidedJoke first im not asking why they watch im askin "experts" like you are watching and its a 2 monute video how much more can you expect want him to talk super fast?

  • Those aren't teacher, they are people who seem to know about a determinate theme and make their video.

  • @ikeass Yeah lets make a half hour video about different styles. Its basic shit man. Are you jealous because he didnt shove the stick up his ass like you do when no ones looking?

  • @PatronSaint210 Thats hawt, im going to try that now. Do i spit on it or shove it in dry?

  • @myjizzureye How about keeping your cock sucking comments to yourself? I'm tired of faggots like you who comment on these videos and talk about it as though it's supposed to teach you how you're supposed to penetrate your boyfriend's anus. Sorry, but no technique is going to work for you if you can't even get hard dipshit.

  • @a7xdrummer22 I have no idea where that came from but all of a sudden I got WWAAYYY to much insight into your personal life.

    Dude you give the game away when you project like that.

    Lastly why do i need to get hard when i prefer to take it?

  • I thought for a minute, when he placed the drumstick on his hand that there was superglue on it, luckily he didn't say super glue will help you with your grip, because I thought he might...expert village.

  • There IS a proper technique that needs to be learned. Once it is learned, the drummer can fit that technique to their hand. But essentially, it's the same.

  • i love to laugh at expertvillage. haha

  • Dude, holding drumsticks creatively and smashing a piano are not the same thing... watch john bonham play.... he holds his sticks like he's whipping his drum set with wet noodles, and yet he's... well.... john bonham.

  • @Jmoney741 Agreed. John Bonham is a Beast

  • well of course there is a reason there is a proper technique to hold the stick...god i hate how many people here are saying "just hold however you want" its just like saying the difference between playing the piano by just smashing it or using the techniques that thousands of experts have eventually made into what it is today.

  • oh and i thought proper technique was to have your middle or rude finger on the side with your thumb instead of your index...oh well...i guess there are different techniques then

  • You should have to have any type of training for holding your sticks. When I first learned how to play, my instructor told me to hold them the way I feel the most comfortable.

    The only type of training you should need is for traditional grip, & proper wrist motion. The rest is somewhat self-explanatory.

  • Grip is very important, your comment is completely ignorant. If your grip is not somewhat similar to this (as a basic grip) your inhibiting what your hand is capable of doing. The "most comfortable" way could easily be the way that prevents the stick from rebounding, which is the worst way to hold a drumstick. It's all about making the stick do most of the work, so holding it any way you please is a bad attitude if you want to get the most out of technique and your playing...

  • Hence when I said, "When I first learned how to play..." I have since changed my grip. I do agree that grip is VERY important, but, truthfully, you should be less worried about hand-technique starting out & more worried about timing & accuracy.

  • Well you should have made that clear, instead of starting out writing "You shouldn't have to have any type of training for holding the sticks"!! Your whole comment was implying the general fact that grip isn't important and the rest is "self-explanatory". Even when your starting out it is important to teach grip. However, no instructor should expect a student to pick it up comprehensively until after a month or 2 really...

  • hes shit, he cant even hit it

  • this is the classical grip. not recommended for drummer with more than a snare (and maybe a ride)

  • tht is not how i hold it!

  • why cant a regular drum player hold the sticks their good and comfortable with?

  • who says you cant ?

  • Because improper technique can cause problems, pain, a bad sound, and most importantly, lack of control of the stick. Proper drumstick technique was invented for a reason.

    It should also be noted that something not mentioned in this video is that you should leave no gap between your thumb and index finger. The knuckle of your thumb should be glued to the base knuckle of your index finger.

  • i wish people would teach the traditional grip more these days.

  • the only problem with the traditional grip is that is was originally used to play a drum at your side technology has changed and it is inefficient to play that way.

    The same holds true for classical guitar there are a lot of people who prefer a certain hand technique that produces a bad tone and can really fuck up your wrist because that was THE way to play.

    The guy giving the lesson is just assuming that most people learning drums want to learn rock/ blues and this is the best technique.

  • Never fucked up my wrists, i use my fingers mostly.

  • yea i there is no correct way i think if you can play fast, efficiently, and have good tone over a period of time who really cares?

  • I agree 100%. Some drummers prefer traditional grip, most prefer match grip.

  • what sticks are these? where can i get them?

  • any music shop? or if ur still in school ask ur band teacher

  • i think that this video is very helpful for amateur drummers, i do not see your problem with someone who is trying to help the beginners unlike yourselves who are virtually ripping this person apart !

  • dude...WTF...this is bull crap!

  • Wow, this is the most BASIC thing i have ever seen. You show us the most retarded way to hold the stick, and that takes a billion fricken years just to do that! Than as soon as you lower the stick to the snare drum, you moved all your fingers. Wow. All you have to do is grab the stick where it feels right to you, and then you play. If it doesn't feel right, why the hell would I do that? Everyone holds the stick differently, because drumming is UNIQUE! You aren't an expert.

  • WRONG.

  • not if your beggining to play the drums

  • batteria the best

  • He's got a bit of a lisp. Leave the guy alone and listen to what he's telling you.

  • idk why but everytime i see an expert village video i just want to pick my computer up and throw it across the room

  • hahahahahahahahahhah ROFL LMAO

  • Probably because they speak to us as if we are retarded...

  • Right when I see expert village I know to leave asap.

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  • mother fucker, you can't even speak english.........

  • OK .....lets try with German Italian Spanish ignorant son of a bitch ..... that's the best you can say ????? Why you do not make a favor to the humanity and delete you from the earth ... stupid ignorant

  • What makes me less ignorant than you is realizing my ignorance. Thus, I don not speak of things I do not know. I listen. You should try the same. Are you some eastern european trash asshole? You probably are Italian.. Italians are just flat out assholes..

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  • And you're American??? is not very difficult realize ..... probably you're 16 or 17 years old is not very difficult to realize neither , if I give my opinion is due to I know what I am talking about .... think that after all if you answer is that you understand my English,, It is not???? ,,, so go and grow a bit,,, then we'll talk litle bastard..

  • BENNY's like yourself are assholes.

  • what the fuck is a benny?

  • exactly....

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  • why would you ever lean on your hi hats like that?

  • Phail

  • The tighter you hold it the more fun it gets when your doing a role. Snap, Crackle POP!!!!!

  • they really dont know what they are talking about...

  • This guy Plays the drums like he is playing tummy sticks. gaaaay

  • yeah I agree with the majority here... not much here, no explanation about "balance pivot points" nor anything about "traditional grip"