i used this for a school essay, lol i use bomb-mp3.com for free musics. MP3 players are way better than iPods. my friend as spent 40$ on an iPod, 30$ on songs. Ive spent 12 bucks on a mp3 and have over 50 free songs :)
Now they have taken over 100,000+ frickin' clips from YouTube for no reason at all. And if 3 vids get taken away from you, your channel is taken away. Imagine the lives ruined when their channel was taken away and they were sued. We need to stop this. We need to take a stand.
good luck on copyright issues, you will be defending them vs me for deleting an account that was in NO violation, a simple 33 second fighjt video & an injury video, yet the kill my account & allow nudity videos & animal cruelty videos, that $12,000 I won on the lotto, is gonna be wasted sticking it to youtube for unjust termination.
the 3rd video that violated the account, was uploaded 2 weeks before the ones that caused the acount to be suspended. WTF?
I hate copyright but I understand. You should simply have to prove losses. Also youtube hasn't really been profitable for google. Everything is against youtube, copyright, an vids of someone getting hurt or something gets taken down too.
I am a performing tribal fusion belly dancer. I dance to popular music. I make no money at all for my dancing, as I only started performing this past year. I am not selling anything. I am simply dancing to a song, I own, in public. My latest is a to a David Bowie song. I can't even upload this video ANYWHERE in the web! I don't see why this is not allowed. I make no profit, and I'm not saying the song was ever mine. How is it fair to just blanket ban something? I am not stealing anything!
I can appreciate respecting an artist's work whether video or music. What I don't appreciate are the companys who make huge profits from creatives work while as a front say they are looking out for their "clients" interests. The truth about most musicians is that most of their money is made on tours and not on royalties on their work. I personally make no pity on these type of companys who have basically enslaved the arts to line their pocketbooks. They're now getting what they deserved long ago
You know. As much as I support copyright laws, I do have to reluctantly agree that Viacom's getting YouTube to pull offenders's ACCOUNTS is a little, uh, too much......despite my respect for the owners.
Hah! Since this case all music videos on you tube except for concert video's have been removed, one of them was my most favorite Heli Crashes. Thar gopin' overboard with the copyright laws just as thar goin' overboard with political correctness.
i dont understand why they have to remove copyrighted material videos. i mean, they are spreading the material and making it more popular. isnt that what they want.
I think that at least you should be able to use 3rd party music in your videos if you give them credit, because videos are boring w/o good music, and its free advertising for them anyway
Someone Used the information That I made And Didn't Give Me Credit. HE MADE THE VIDEO JUST AFTER I DID!! PLZ HELP ME... I want Him to at least give me credit...PLz reply and help me
personally i say buy a few terabyte hard drives and collect what is important to you. because it probably wont be as easy as it is now in a few years or even sooner. but there will always be the underground. as soon as youtube is changed there will be 10 more youtubes based in other countries. it is a losing battle for the copyright holders and they should work with youtube before they are screwed.
Like the US has the DMCA do you know of its equivalent in the UK? or even if there is a legislative provision that protects (C) in unauthorised works reproduced online?
And I don't agree with this stuff about taking videos down. People should be free to share music with each other, it's what we've done since music was first conceived.
People who make music want people to hear it and appreciate it. When people start out in music all they want is for people to hear and like their music, it's never about money or copyright, then all of a sudden they get famous or get corrupted by greedy record labels and then everything changes.
i would only mind if i lost a obviously MASSIVE amount of money, at which point, i would just want the loss to be reduced, and not completely destroy companies like youtube, which is what the current lawsuit is all about
I just had 2 videos taken down and had been on a while can people flag and false flag and youtube take down? i believe this is what happend due to the fact that the songs on the video were in fair use.
I remember when Napster launched, I was using it, and it was a P2P network just like Kazaa, meaing they did NOT host anything. I could only download songs when people who had them were online, also people downloaded songs from me. So Ron is wrong about this.
Another thing is about how free this community is. It's not free, it's politically censored. It supports US interests. I don'thave a prob with that, everyone is a patriot, but to say its free is not true.
so much for freedom of self expression sure u can make a video of ur self telling a story about a movie and sharing it with people but why cant u post a video of the movie and write a description stating that u did not make the vid? wouldnt that be considered fair use? this whole copy right crap contradicts it self
Copyright this or that. Who was it selling cameras and recorders? The very same industry which doesn't want you to use it. Buy it and then dump it. Capitalism in its most absurd way. You have to be a consumer, not a producer. This is not your right. This is the right of the big world wide enterprises. A thing without a soul and without responsibility.
I still don't know if there is a way to get permission to download a video of my daughter or son performing a copyrighted song. If anyone knows of any licensing scheme to do this, I would sure like to know about it.
Quite possibly the most interesting video I've watched yet that concerned copyright. I've been wondering about this kinda stuff for a while now. Certainly cleared up numerous things for me. Thank you muchly!
well i added a video with audio and some partner claimed copyright so i deleted the video that had copyright for the audio... am i in trouble? was it right to delete the video? and what can they do to u for copyright?
Copyright laws are there to protect the legal owners of a song or video. Maybe you don't make money from using it, but YouTube does! How would you feel if intellectual property belonging to you was being used by someone else for financial gain? Then again most of the inbreed comments I've read in this thread leads me to suggest you're not capable of such a feat!
Informative post. I deleted my account after learning that my privacy will be compromised in the case of Viacom vs. YouTube, as you can see they are yet to delete it. But I do have one question before I go, if a YouTube were not for profit, could they still be held liable for infringement of copyright laws? Thank you for your time.
Post#2: But I'm no lawyer and I'm usually the last to know. So, If someone can educate me, please do. I love Youtube and I've watched many copyrighted videos. So, I'm as guilty as anyone else who's done the same. But I don't think denying copyright law is the answer. There needs to be a compromise between the artist's rights and public interest. Computer technology has forged a new path for the dissemination of audio/visual works.....
Post#1:I must not understand copyright law. To me,by allowing members to post copyrighted materials without permission Youtube condones and sponsors copyr. infringement. It shouldn't matter if Youtube is profiting. Copyright holders by federal law are granted the legal right to control reproduction or distribution of their created works. End of story. Youtube is guilty of copyright infringement by purveyance,just as a shipper would be by knowingly transporting hollywood counterfeits from China.
The whole thing is bullshit. There are millions of videos on Youtube that have movies, songs, and games. Interesting that it's okay to have Dire Straits or the Who, but not Prince. You can have the Alien Trilogy, but not Back to the Future. What a bunch of shit. Just allow it, we're not making any money from it.
Great video- My friend got warned for having a video of his band playing Purple Rain. So I am guessing we can't sing along, play guitars/basses/drums along, nor have our bands play covers on here anymore. Even artists playing other artists songs... :(
well ive made lots of videos with music however i put one on the other day and got a copyright notice in my email it looks like theres a sudden clampdown .dont know what will become of it removed the video heard nothing since .. thanks for the post
Intellectual property rights are BS. If I could copy my labor, I wouldn't need to go to work. I could just leave a CD there and have all my paychecks mailed to me at home. Better yet, I could apply for work with every employer in the world and collect a ton of paychecks while kicking back at home doing nothing. See what I mean? Obviously copies of things do not constitute labor output so, how can anybody claim to be entitled to compensation from them? It makes no sense.
I hate you copyright!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate you so much copyright!!!!!!!!!! There are so many videos I want to make, especially music added into my own video, that I can't use because of copyright!!! I HATE YOU COPYRIGHT!!!
i watch videos of clips from Family guy, Simpsons and music videos to kill some boredom and youtube used to be that site where i could g watch a couple hallarious clips and go on with my day.
Simply I hate that all these videos are being taken down, less lawsiuts for them but a lot more boredeom for me :/
I find many videos infringe upon copyrights because the creators of the illegal videos don't even know the laws. Being a creative person myself, I refuse to upload animations that I've made due to these ignorant people. I'm not sure it's going to get better. I don't blame youtube. I blame the users.
Tur should win his case. It is easy to figure out how much youtube made off his video through adds. A simple math equation: (Ad revenue divided by time) x (length of his video). Youtube could even use daily traffic stats for a more accurate number.
Copyright should only apply to large commercial operations that would use a company's own content to compete against them in the commercial distribution market.
Users should be completely exempt, including user-posted content on sites like youtube.
Though, if a company can trap its content in a locked machine using DRM, then so be it, they have no obligation to let it out so it can be copied. If we resent DRM enough, we can boycott.
Isn't it theft considering the owner technically lost a sale or a viewer or someone who would've bought the dvd or whatever? It's like taking a picture of a painting instead of buying it or stealing a box of cereal considering there are tons more on the shelf.
thank you for the explanation it was very helpful, but what happent if someone made a video that had parts of any series or from part of the movie with a background music and you give the credits to the serie and music/author. is this allright? i meant there is any copyright problem in this video.
I don't agree with copyright laws but that aside lawsuits won't stop file sharing or video uploads. Every piece of copyrighted material taken down is somewhere on the net right now. No one can stop it (whether they agree with it or not) so corporations can find new ways to make money on it or they can keep trying to take the videos down only to have them pop up again.
I agree, you should be working for YouTube. They need SOMEONE with a clear legal head. You tell the story without a lot of shop gibberish and such - law for the layman, yippee!!
This video was very illuminating, it helps clear up some gray areas in copyright protections for us common joe's but i was hoping you would cover Satire as well. I'de be pleased if you'd make a video covering copyright protections over satire material
Im an amature animator, and much of my material is inspired by music, i use this music in my toons, is this 'fair use?' - i do understand the difference in using material on network broadcasters, if i did that, i'd get paid, i could then forward due royalty, but when i do it for youtube its free, i cant pay huge royalties. this is just a way to stifle peoples talents and keep all the copyright laws in the pockets of greedy middlemen.
I CANNOT BELIEEEVE that I didn't see this before this afternoon! LOL! I have just spent the last week TRYING to get information about this together from the UK end and put up 3 videos on the topic and HERE YOU ARE doing it WAY better than I could ever hope to! I am so pleased to see this. THANKS!
^ Few months later the greedy companies won so this video is irrelevant. :) Have you heard the news of video fingerprinting will be done by youtube in the month of September? :)
Did Mr. Tur ever think of asking Youtube to take his videos off their site? I'm guessing that he didn't and just thought to himself "Hey, I could score another million by just suing." I'm sure if he had asked, youtube would have wiped them off and prevented them from coming back. But, money makes the world go round *sighs*
I don't know whether he asked, but YouTube cooperated by taking them off. He maintains that even after YT's removal, his footage was still on the site.
Will: Either that or he wants his name in the history books. Suing a high profile company like Youtube will put his name in the papers & draw attention to his work.
I love youtube i learn a lot of stuff theirs alot of tutorial that are very useful and its not fair for youtube to be shutdown because of this bob tur person cause if some one can shut it down right know its him i hate him....
I work with animal shelter dogs, because of You Tube, (I post mini videos here), the lives of a lot of dogs that are still on earth today would have been killed. I thank You Tube for giving me another tool for the on going job saving lives of helpless shelter dogs that are on death roll at the shelter.
Bob Tur needs to realize he's making himself very unpopular. His video(s) are a record of doccumented history. That is knowledge for future generations and YouTube provides the doccumentation for us to experience. Historical documentation needs seperate rules of copyright. Sorry, if you make an historical event public, it belongs to the planet. End of story. You should get paid for your work, but not ad-infinitum.
good video...very informative! but sometimes i like watching videos that are illegal...this sucks...can't they work something out...like give royalties to the content owners.
Great Vid. Unfortunately, if everyone takes down 3rd party clips, YouTube wont be as popular anymore. Majority of the clips will have some morons jumping off 5-story buildings on their skateboards. And flag them? Ha! Thats like a kid in the class remind a teacher to give the whole class their homework.
Bob Tur already made his money on his videos and stills of the LA Riot. The guy is money hungry asking to sue for $1Billion dollars. Where does this crap end? I can see perhaps suing for a regular copyright infringement which is no where near $1Billion dollars.
Bob Tur stinks i mean i love youtube it's so much fun i mean my sister learn how to play the piano cause of here. i get to watch stuff and great soccer shots that i miss only here. i stay in touch with play i would probaly never have talk to on my email. Youtube should not get sued.
The whole copyright thing has BECOME criminal. People should only profit from the shows they give. The engineers that invented digitalisation and recording don't see a penny of the billions that comes into the media sector. (the companies that exploit their knowledge get a big cut). In addition only lawyers benefit from any copyright case. Put a stop to lawyer tyranny, and their manipulation of the world. Except this dude, he helps fight against censorship, and people holding onto power
No their not distroying the web idiot, google is the best search engine their is and i love google and know this bob tur person sued youtube because of a video that he filmed 15 years ago and kknow is here and any ways who cares about his stupid news video i mean it was from 15 years ago and who watches the news anyways this is ridicules ......
Use the principle of "eminent domain" for these low-bit-rate, highly degraded, commercially unusable but richly valuable videos so the private interests who have legal claims to this content can't snatch it away. At the very least some copyright exemption needs to be applied. My account was suspended with over 70 videos mostly edited classic tv shows with over half a million viewers. A lot of hard work down the TUBES!!!!
I agree! I mean what if people don't have time to watch tv, and they don't feel like paying upwards of $50 dollars for the whole season, especially since the shows make money off the ratings already! These people just want more money, they dont really care about copyright infringment, they care that their stuff is on here being watched for free. greedy bastards.
I enjoyed the video, thanks a lot for posting it. I had a big problem with your speculation that Google has no way of tracking which videos get ad revenue; c'mon, it's their business! But overall, great job. And congratulations on the 50+ videos with tagged as "FOTCV"!
Let's not forget the Video Gaming industry! I see all these Machinima (video game) videos! Aren't they also commiting copyright infringement due to using video game footage in their videos?
Excellent Video, very informative and useful. I'll consider putting up my first video soon just cause of this. Only problem (technical here) is that the green-screen effect wasn't done very well (you could see remnants and artifacts to the right of the person). Anyway, I wholeheartedly support this video. FOTCV, here I come!
Excellent video. It's nice to hear someone defending a share service without going overboard and defending the use of unauthorized copywritten content.
The voluntary involvement of large media companies(NBC etc)in videosharing works in YouTube's favor. This shows that they are not bothered by the site and are eager to benefit from the potential marketing boost.
That being said, YouTube should make more of an effort to crack down on unauthorized content to stay out of trouble.
Copyright laws exist so that artists can be successful and continue to create media for you to enjoy. Copyright also exists so that original concepts won't be destroyed by non-canon content.
A friend of mine in the recording industry tole me they're as corrupt as boxing promoters and cheat the hell out of struggling artists. Of course, if their pilfered goods are copied on a low-quality, non-profit made-with-love video that I doubt causes them Any loss, they scream. Greedy Corporate Bums rule the world, alas. Some day we'll get rid of them.
I agree with most of the content being bad, i.e: whole episodes of shows uploaded. But stuff like: Movie clips/ fan made music videos and the like do more to help then hurt. You could see a movie clip on youtube and like it so much that you'll go out and buy the movie. Fan made music vidoes (amv's, videos using movies) are not wrong. They're just fun to make, that's all.
I can rarely be bothered with television. Were it not for Youtube, my recent purchases of music from artists encountered here would not have been made.
damn this is just great Viacom and NBC should know by now its not youtube's fault nor is it ours all we are doing is watching the episode or movie by the network it was programmed on the network that is not illegal there is nothing wrong with that
You know Youtube is being sued by VIACOM, NBC, ect. I say their just bunch of ASSHOLES. And you can't protect copyright vidoes, it's becuase everyone records the shows and have them view on our website, anyone agreeds? Plus no commercials.
Thank you, Mr. Awesome Lawyer. You're claims ARE LEGIT.
beckondorf1 8 months ago
Indeed, I do think that Youtube is partnered with every music producer.
beckondorf1 8 months ago
i used this for a school essay, lol i use bomb-mp3.com for free musics. MP3 players are way better than iPods. my friend as spent 40$ on an iPod, 30$ on songs. Ive spent 12 bucks on a mp3 and have over 50 free songs :)
oftenlostinwhat 1 year ago
we need a peer to peer video hosting site!
demazphantom 1 year ago
Four years later, or slightly less than four years, what's the answer? Yes. Yes it did. Fucking corporate interests.
youvebeenthunderstru 1 year ago
Now they have taken over 100,000+ frickin' clips from YouTube for no reason at all. And if 3 vids get taken away from you, your channel is taken away. Imagine the lives ruined when their channel was taken away and they were sued. We need to stop this. We need to take a stand.
WaddleBuff 1 year ago
FOTCVresults 1 - 20of about 212
I expected more...
IronyIsGood 1 year ago
I hate the copyrights... :( I spent about two weeks making an amv and then it just gets deleted and i'm sad :(
haiheri212 1 year ago
how can i post one of my vids witouth them turning my sound off?
do i have to write the author in my vid or something? pls heeelp
juliug 2 years ago
@juliug don't use WMG songs. You can use audioswap for partner music
mrdeleted 1 year ago
This is a interesting video. Youtube has just commited suicide..
YellowBigLemon 2 years ago
@YellowBigLemon no they won the case
mrdeleted 1 year ago
good luck on copyright issues, you will be defending them vs me for deleting an account that was in NO violation, a simple 33 second fighjt video & an injury video, yet the kill my account & allow nudity videos & animal cruelty videos, that $12,000 I won on the lotto, is gonna be wasted sticking it to youtube for unjust termination.
the 3rd video that violated the account, was uploaded 2 weeks before the ones that caused the acount to be suspended. WTF?
Good Video, btw.
TheReincarnationFan 2 years ago
I hate copyright but I understand. You should simply have to prove losses. Also youtube hasn't really been profitable for google. Everything is against youtube, copyright, an vids of someone getting hurt or something gets taken down too.
DarklingX 2 years ago 4
Go Ron!!
mjroc4life 2 years ago
I am a performing tribal fusion belly dancer. I dance to popular music. I make no money at all for my dancing, as I only started performing this past year. I am not selling anything. I am simply dancing to a song, I own, in public. My latest is a to a David Bowie song. I can't even upload this video ANYWHERE in the web! I don't see why this is not allowed. I make no profit, and I'm not saying the song was ever mine. How is it fair to just blanket ban something? I am not stealing anything!
crystabellbloodroze 2 years ago
I can appreciate respecting an artist's work whether video or music. What I don't appreciate are the companys who make huge profits from creatives work while as a front say they are looking out for their "clients" interests. The truth about most musicians is that most of their money is made on tours and not on royalties on their work. I personally make no pity on these type of companys who have basically enslaved the arts to line their pocketbooks. They're now getting what they deserved long ago
lanceCoyle 2 years ago 3
Sure enough, copyright has killed youtube./
youvebeenthunderstru 2 years ago 10
Thank you for this very informative video!
clydesight 2 years ago 2
Copyright Law has been known to slow human progress in technology.
I hate copyright. That's why I don't give a shit on what the government or the media says anymore.
jake5fiend 2 years ago 2
You know. As much as I support copyright laws, I do have to reluctantly agree that Viacom's getting YouTube to pull offenders's ACCOUNTS is a little, uh, too much......despite my respect for the owners.
SteveCarras 2 years ago
Well done video.
ResisterOfEvil 2 years ago
youtube has led to me buying some films and music by hearing them here. I think it helps me decide on some buying choices.
pacanime 2 years ago 22
the ad money is being sold mainly to private companies who dont use any copyrighted materials.... :P
dartvader117 3 years ago
Hah! Since this case all music videos on you tube except for concert video's have been removed, one of them was my most favorite Heli Crashes. Thar gopin' overboard with the copyright laws just as thar goin' overboard with political correctness.
NZ
-King Of The Skies-
Av8r2991 3 years ago
i dont understand why they have to remove copyrighted material videos. i mean, they are spreading the material and making it more popular. isnt that what they want.
Wazson8 3 years ago 6
the old folks incharge don't understand that kind of stuff :P
Mooseboy018 2 years ago
I think that at least you should be able to use 3rd party music in your videos if you give them credit, because videos are boring w/o good music, and its free advertising for them anyway
PillowPaper 3 years ago 3
Someone Used the information That I made And Didn't Give Me Credit. HE MADE THE VIDEO JUST AFTER I DID!! PLZ HELP ME... I want Him to at least give me credit...PLz reply and help me
dsso123 3 years ago
personally i say buy a few terabyte hard drives and collect what is important to you. because it probably wont be as easy as it is now in a few years or even sooner. but there will always be the underground. as soon as youtube is changed there will be 10 more youtubes based in other countries. it is a losing battle for the copyright holders and they should work with youtube before they are screwed.
richygoku16 3 years ago
Lawyers courting Youtube. Now I've seen everything. Flipping Baker Makenzie will have to get in line let alone this guy! Great vid.
mollyarabella 3 years ago
Informative video. Very nice.
Have a question :
Like the US has the DMCA do you know of its equivalent in the UK? or even if there is a legislative provision that protects (C) in unauthorised works reproduced online?
Thanks.
karlirani 3 years ago
Yes! Copyright has Killed the Video Star!
AntiMusick 3 years ago 5
So far only one of my videos got taken down.
LikeSeoul 3 years ago
And I don't agree with this stuff about taking videos down. People should be free to share music with each other, it's what we've done since music was first conceived.
People who make music want people to hear it and appreciate it. When people start out in music all they want is for people to hear and like their music, it's never about money or copyright, then all of a sudden they get famous or get corrupted by greedy record labels and then everything changes.
Stay True To Yourself!
IchigoMe 3 years ago 8
well written comment... if i published it and made millions im sure you wouldnt mind...would you???
karlirani 3 years ago
he never said anything about making money from the music, only sharing it, as for entertainment.
if someones making money off your work that's a different story.
element1988 3 years ago 3
i would only mind if i lost a obviously MASSIVE amount of money, at which point, i would just want the loss to be reduced, and not completely destroy companies like youtube, which is what the current lawsuit is all about
dartvader117 3 years ago
If you added the color shades of shadow on your green screen you wouldn't have that shadow distortion.
IchigoMe 3 years ago
I just had 2 videos taken down and had been on a while can people flag and false flag and youtube take down? i believe this is what happend due to the fact that the songs on the video were in fair use.
angelwingz286 3 years ago
nigahiga uses copyright songs
and they dont get in trouble
mavericks417 3 years ago
So basically nearly all the users on YouTube are in breach of copyright laws. Or am I wrong?
TheHorrorGuy 3 years ago
Yes, I would say that most are breaking the rules.
neutralman2008 3 years ago
A few comments.
I remember when Napster launched, I was using it, and it was a P2P network just like Kazaa, meaing they did NOT host anything. I could only download songs when people who had them were online, also people downloaded songs from me. So Ron is wrong about this.
Another thing is about how free this community is. It's not free, it's politically censored. It supports US interests. I don'thave a prob with that, everyone is a patriot, but to say its free is not true.
jbase44 3 years ago
that's true. the entire piratebay is american movies
theocide421 3 years ago
Question?
If I rip something from a dvd and then upload it, knowing it's illegal, and the owner/producer discovers this...
-can they get Youtube to give them my IP-adress,
and then find out who I am IRL and procecute me??
lillefiske 3 years ago
r u a lawer/soliciter?
hellomynameistj 3 years ago
so much for freedom of self expression sure u can make a video of ur self telling a story about a movie and sharing it with people but why cant u post a video of the movie and write a description stating that u did not make the vid? wouldnt that be considered fair use? this whole copy right crap contradicts it self
kitsune450 3 years ago
Copyright this or that. Who was it selling cameras and recorders? The very same industry which doesn't want you to use it. Buy it and then dump it. Capitalism in its most absurd way. You have to be a consumer, not a producer. This is not your right. This is the right of the big world wide enterprises. A thing without a soul and without responsibility.
WolYou 3 years ago 2
goddamn television-fascists wanting to destroy the slightly-censored free-society that is youtube.
1337905 3 years ago 5
I still don't know if there is a way to get permission to download a video of my daughter or son performing a copyrighted song. If anyone knows of any licensing scheme to do this, I would sure like to know about it.
wfmccabe 3 years ago
You should be able to use it under 'fair use' as you are not making money from it or taking away from copyright's market
chompsey 3 years ago
you can do that, there would be no copyright inf. because it's something YOU ( or your kids ) made, so its theirs. totally legal.
Candorf123 3 years ago
Quite possibly the most interesting video I've watched yet that concerned copyright. I've been wondering about this kinda stuff for a while now. Certainly cleared up numerous things for me. Thank you muchly!
AeoAeo330 3 years ago
I think it's ridiculous if we can't sing songs on youtube it's not like we are saying we are the creator of it for crying out loud
singingbabe26 3 years ago
Talk about a lack of freedom of speech if you're right.
ghoang 3 years ago
and what is 3rd party videos?
Quinstinger 3 years ago
well i added a video with audio and some partner claimed copyright so i deleted the video that had copyright for the audio... am i in trouble? was it right to delete the video? and what can they do to u for copyright?
Quinstinger 3 years ago
Copyright laws are there to protect the legal owners of a song or video. Maybe you don't make money from using it, but YouTube does! How would you feel if intellectual property belonging to you was being used by someone else for financial gain? Then again most of the inbreed comments I've read in this thread leads me to suggest you're not capable of such a feat!
SupernaturalWorld 3 years ago
I think in some cases, like with the older songs, we are actually doing the artistes a favour, by keeping them and their music in the public eye.
Good Info. :)
soniclady89 3 years ago 2
It doesn't induce copyright infringment from the motto itself! 'Broadcast yourself', not 'Broadcast copyrighted material'!
tigergirl718 3 years ago 3
Informative post. I deleted my account after learning that my privacy will be compromised in the case of Viacom vs. YouTube, as you can see they are yet to delete it. But I do have one question before I go, if a YouTube were not for profit, could they still be held liable for infringement of copyright laws? Thank you for your time.
malgacho 3 years ago
Post#2: But I'm no lawyer and I'm usually the last to know. So, If someone can educate me, please do. I love Youtube and I've watched many copyrighted videos. So, I'm as guilty as anyone else who's done the same. But I don't think denying copyright law is the answer. There needs to be a compromise between the artist's rights and public interest. Computer technology has forged a new path for the dissemination of audio/visual works.....
fraud1958 3 years ago
Post#1:I must not understand copyright law. To me,by allowing members to post copyrighted materials without permission Youtube condones and sponsors copyr. infringement. It shouldn't matter if Youtube is profiting. Copyright holders by federal law are granted the legal right to control reproduction or distribution of their created works. End of story. Youtube is guilty of copyright infringement by purveyance,just as a shipper would be by knowingly transporting hollywood counterfeits from China.
fraud1958 3 years ago
The whole thing is bullshit. There are millions of videos on Youtube that have movies, songs, and games. Interesting that it's okay to have Dire Straits or the Who, but not Prince. You can have the Alien Trilogy, but not Back to the Future. What a bunch of shit. Just allow it, we're not making any money from it.
saturnhexagon 3 years ago 11
youtube took my vid off for "copyrite infringment", but it was a bad case of it
dodykid4ever 3 years ago
Copy right laws remind me the ridicules labor laws.
Yaskachi 3 years ago
Wasn't considering law, but government itself sounds good. =)
lyden2006 3 years ago
Quite the interesting topic for a long time now...
My video response was completely created from scratch yet it resembles the intro of a giant media corporation ... oh dear am i in trouble
cybrax21 3 years ago
and i have the exclusive right to ignore them
Joebears13 3 years ago
ok i wanted to download osama bin ladens speech video.. do i first call and ask him or ask the news netwrok???? or call bush??
guy209 3 years ago 3
I hate copyright laws.
Sonicbeta999 3 years ago 15
Great video- My friend got warned for having a video of his band playing Purple Rain. So I am guessing we can't sing along, play guitars/basses/drums along, nor have our bands play covers on here anymore. Even artists playing other artists songs... :(
vineyardedge 3 years ago
well ive made lots of videos with music however i put one on the other day and got a copyright notice in my email it looks like theres a sudden clampdown .dont know what will become of it removed the video heard nothing since .. thanks for the post
mrdee11091 3 years ago
In washington wow that doesn't look like use of green screen at all
Demolitionsquid1 3 years ago
Hey I had no idea that copywrite was finite enough to have an actual legal profession based solely on it.
That looks like a really fun job actually :)
berner 3 years ago
Intellectual property rights are BS. If I could copy my labor, I wouldn't need to go to work. I could just leave a CD there and have all my paychecks mailed to me at home. Better yet, I could apply for work with every employer in the world and collect a ton of paychecks while kicking back at home doing nothing. See what I mean? Obviously copies of things do not constitute labor output so, how can anybody claim to be entitled to compensation from them? It makes no sense.
Piscivorus 3 years ago 9
I hate you copyright!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate you so much copyright!!!!!!!!!! There are so many videos I want to make, especially music added into my own video, that I can't use because of copyright!!! I HATE YOU COPYRIGHT!!!
JustADisneyFan1121 3 years ago 31
i watch videos of clips from Family guy, Simpsons and music videos to kill some boredom and youtube used to be that site where i could g watch a couple hallarious clips and go on with my day.
Simply I hate that all these videos are being taken down, less lawsiuts for them but a lot more boredeom for me :/
gddkhdkgdljhf 3 years ago 3
join the group copyright
lillabaten 3 years ago
Omigod Im scared!
HOW THE HELL DO I KNW WHETHER I CAN UPLOAD A VIDEO A MADE????!!!!
ItsMeJe33ica 3 years ago
sweet
bmcneil2269 3 years ago
What will Bernard K. Smith do!?!? YouTube is his life!!!!!
s7o0a0p 3 years ago
Thanks for making this.
People need to understand that intellectual property infringement harms the integrity of rights protecting legitimate works.
olivicmic 3 years ago
I find many videos infringe upon copyrights because the creators of the illegal videos don't even know the laws. Being a creative person myself, I refuse to upload animations that I've made due to these ignorant people. I'm not sure it's going to get better. I don't blame youtube. I blame the users.
orkidfan 3 years ago
Tur should win his case. It is easy to figure out how much youtube made off his video through adds. A simple math equation: (Ad revenue divided by time) x (length of his video). Youtube could even use daily traffic stats for a more accurate number.
wordatme 4 years ago
Okay so let say I owned a club or was a DJ where I entertain public by ways of music.
Do I need permission of the 3rd party to use music in my club or party's I entertain? what the hell ever happened to freedom?
fabiolus2007 4 years ago 7
love your theme music haha
pestilence88 4 years ago
i like the way this guy talks whats wrong with me lol.
at 8:15 he kinda laughs cus it sounds like hes swearing haha
harmoramone 4 years ago
In my opinion:
Copyright should only apply to large commercial operations that would use a company's own content to compete against them in the commercial distribution market.
Users should be completely exempt, including user-posted content on sites like youtube.
Though, if a company can trap its content in a locked machine using DRM, then so be it, they have no obligation to let it out so it can be copied. If we resent DRM enough, we can boycott.
justinl81 4 years ago 4
Fantastic post, thank you for the information!
montaramike 4 years ago
100th comment!
Rstarkovs 4 years ago
yah i got copyrighted by warnerbros. its been a real problem with me.
djcocaine 4 years ago
haha Video killed the radio star, but copyright killed the video star!
That's funny.
supervacaneous 4 years ago 6
Isn't it theft considering the owner technically lost a sale or a viewer or someone who would've bought the dvd or whatever? It's like taking a picture of a painting instead of buying it or stealing a box of cereal considering there are tons more on the shelf.
Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.
supervacaneous 4 years ago
yes you do!!!
AsianBorat 4 years ago
RESPECT!!! Ron, i give you TOTALLY RESPECT!! This is really what people will have to realize.
realSABITOR 4 years ago
thank you for the explanation it was very helpful, but what happent if someone made a video that had parts of any series or from part of the movie with a background music and you give the credits to the serie and music/author. is this allright? i meant there is any copyright problem in this video.
herman281085 4 years ago
What about using snipits of a song for your video?
DryBONESreborn 4 years ago
good educational video!
Joneecoca 4 years ago
I half agree. However the only reason we have copyright in the first place is because piracy is a way around having to pay for movies or TV shows.
SilverMetallix 4 years ago
I don't agree with copyright laws but that aside lawsuits won't stop file sharing or video uploads. Every piece of copyrighted material taken down is somewhere on the net right now. No one can stop it (whether they agree with it or not) so corporations can find new ways to make money on it or they can keep trying to take the videos down only to have them pop up again.
sparky500mhz 4 years ago
I agree, you should be working for YouTube. They need SOMEONE with a clear legal head. You tell the story without a lot of shop gibberish and such - law for the layman, yippee!!
MamboDogFaceOne 4 years ago
This was a great video explaining the lawsuit. I hope you can make more videos explaining cases.
victorrain 4 years ago
This video was very illuminating, it helps clear up some gray areas in copyright protections for us common joe's but i was hoping you would cover Satire as well. I'de be pleased if you'd make a video covering copyright protections over satire material
Nimiety327 4 years ago
Im an amature animator, and much of my material is inspired by music, i use this music in my toons, is this 'fair use?' - i do understand the difference in using material on network broadcasters, if i did that, i'd get paid, i could then forward due royalty, but when i do it for youtube its free, i cant pay huge royalties. this is just a way to stifle peoples talents and keep all the copyright laws in the pockets of greedy middlemen.
BiliousTrumpstaine 4 years ago
Thank You is Good To Watch This
Thank You Very Much.
myasshole69 4 years ago
Great video, thanx
Rotarrius 4 years ago
2nd that
imtubester 4 years ago
This should be featured.
curt344 4 years ago 3
I agree!
imtubester 4 years ago
Excellent Information..THANK YOU! ;)
mtamorphis 4 years ago
Wow, this is pretty good.
Jordan178 4 years ago
Wow dude! Thanks!
imtubester 4 years ago
cool video, lots of legal beegle stuff, :)
hillbillygill99 4 years ago
Stand away from the green screen, you're casting a shadow!!
TrackEditor99 4 years ago
I CANNOT BELIEEEVE that I didn't see this before this afternoon! LOL! I have just spent the last week TRYING to get information about this together from the UK end and put up 3 videos on the topic and HERE YOU ARE doing it WAY better than I could ever hope to! I am so pleased to see this. THANKS!
MacBraveheart 4 years ago
^ Few months later the greedy companies won so this video is irrelevant. :) Have you heard the news of video fingerprinting will be done by youtube in the month of September? :)
yushire 4 years ago
Did Mr. Tur ever think of asking Youtube to take his videos off their site? I'm guessing that he didn't and just thought to himself "Hey, I could score another million by just suing." I'm sure if he had asked, youtube would have wiped them off and prevented them from coming back. But, money makes the world go round *sighs*
WillSerenity 4 years ago 2
I don't know whether he asked, but YouTube cooperated by taking them off. He maintains that even after YT's removal, his footage was still on the site.
Illuminatta 4 years ago
Will: Either that or he wants his name in the history books. Suing a high profile company like Youtube will put his name in the papers & draw attention to his work.
MrsSmicks 4 years ago
You should get a Job for youtube. You know what youre talking about. Keep thoes greedy people in there place.
Avionicgenius 4 years ago
good job on this man
Element12463 4 years ago
Great video.
danman1202 4 years ago
Good effects man, GG
clownshoezez 4 years ago
I love youtube i learn a lot of stuff theirs alot of tutorial that are very useful and its not fair for youtube to be shutdown because of this bob tur person cause if some one can shut it down right know its him i hate him....
fasterraper 4 years ago
BORING!
Bndr6 4 years ago
haha looks lyk ur readin :P
munibr12 4 years ago
1.65b acctualy (1,650,000,000) and this is a good vid. it makes a point
dxinuyasha 4 years ago
I work with animal shelter dogs, because of You Tube, (I post mini videos here), the lives of a lot of dogs that are still on earth today would have been killed. I thank You Tube for giving me another tool for the on going job saving lives of helpless shelter dogs that are on death roll at the shelter.
NEWDAWN DOG RESCUE
newdawnrescue 4 years ago
Bob Tur needs to realize he's making himself very unpopular. His video(s) are a record of doccumented history. That is knowledge for future generations and YouTube provides the doccumentation for us to experience. Historical documentation needs seperate rules of copyright. Sorry, if you make an historical event public, it belongs to the planet. End of story. You should get paid for your work, but not ad-infinitum.
WTCVET 4 years ago
amen to that!!!!!
nfide 4 years ago 2
good video...very informative! but sometimes i like watching videos that are illegal...this sucks...can't they work something out...like give royalties to the content owners.
sweetreview 4 years ago
Great Vid. Unfortunately, if everyone takes down 3rd party clips, YouTube wont be as popular anymore. Majority of the clips will have some morons jumping off 5-story buildings on their skateboards. And flag them? Ha! Thats like a kid in the class remind a teacher to give the whole class their homework.
mightyd99 4 years ago
full support "YouTUBE"
chemistry111 4 years ago
Bob Tur already made his money on his videos and stills of the LA Riot. The guy is money hungry asking to sue for $1Billion dollars. Where does this crap end? I can see perhaps suing for a regular copyright infringement which is no where near $1Billion dollars.
cadrecreative 4 years ago
Bob Tur stinks i mean i love youtube it's so much fun i mean my sister learn how to play the piano cause of here. i get to watch stuff and great soccer shots that i miss only here. i stay in touch with play i would probaly never have talk to on my email. Youtube should not get sued.
flysten 4 years ago
Bob Tur needs another bhobby besides filing law suits
Bluefairy513 4 years ago
I JUST found out how much they were sued for...1,000,000,000...that's a lot of zeros
elephantsrock4333 4 years ago
The whole copyright thing has BECOME criminal. People should only profit from the shows they give. The engineers that invented digitalisation and recording don't see a penny of the billions that comes into the media sector. (the companies that exploit their knowledge get a big cut). In addition only lawyers benefit from any copyright case. Put a stop to lawyer tyranny, and their manipulation of the world. Except this dude, he helps fight against censorship, and people holding onto power
Avionicgenius 4 years ago
thank you youtube a.k.a. google is destroying the web
ihatesite 4 years ago
No their not distroying the web idiot, google is the best search engine their is and i love google and know this bob tur person sued youtube because of a video that he filmed 15 years ago and kknow is here and any ways who cares about his stupid news video i mean it was from 15 years ago and who watches the news anyways this is ridicules ......
fasterraper 4 years ago
i dont like copyright why did they even think of it?
xXtortionXx 4 years ago
Never came up with anything worth selling, xXtortionXx? There you go. :P
Oxygn8765309 4 years ago
Use the principle of "eminent domain" for these low-bit-rate, highly degraded, commercially unusable but richly valuable videos so the private interests who have legal claims to this content can't snatch it away. At the very least some copyright exemption needs to be applied. My account was suspended with over 70 videos mostly edited classic tv shows with over half a million viewers. A lot of hard work down the TUBES!!!!
IMBakz 4 years ago
I love this vid.
can I messaage you for CR law help?
gat6000 4 years ago
copyright principles are NOT relative to youtube since it is on the internet.
sounds new? welcome to the internet =)
QuadmanSwe 4 years ago
I counld't agree more
Rory567 4 years ago
I'm not flagging videos! Because most people come here to watch clips of their favourite shows not some retarded person making pointless videos.
andyee2 4 years ago
I agree! I mean what if people don't have time to watch tv, and they don't feel like paying upwards of $50 dollars for the whole season, especially since the shows make money off the ratings already! These people just want more money, they dont really care about copyright infringment, they care that their stuff is on here being watched for free. greedy bastards.
ivana331 4 years ago
I enjoyed the video, thanks a lot for posting it. I had a big problem with your speculation that Google has no way of tracking which videos get ad revenue; c'mon, it's their business! But overall, great job. And congratulations on the 50+ videos with tagged as "FOTCV"!
ronocdh 4 years ago
YESS everybody stop downloading so that CEO's of record and movie companies can keep their lifestyle of luxury!!!
Adria20 4 years ago
Let's not forget the Video Gaming industry! I see all these Machinima (video game) videos! Aren't they also commiting copyright infringement due to using video game footage in their videos?
JNSBSB 4 years ago
No machinima makes sure they cant be sued if you watch Machinimas videos it does say it gets permission before use
paulkay 4 years ago
they probably asked permission
kitsune450 3 years ago
Thanks Ron in Washington. Yeah, I have a legal mind when it comes to my human right to free speech. xxx Nottingham, UK. p.s. I don't see any ads!!
benzoylation 4 years ago
I think this is a great video, and I'm not a lawyer myself, but as a fellow youtuber I want to do whatever I can to support youtube. Rock on, Ron!
RoboTuba 4 years ago
Excellent Video, very informative and useful. I'll consider putting up my first video soon just cause of this. Only problem (technical here) is that the green-screen effect wasn't done very well (you could see remnants and artifacts to the right of the person). Anyway, I wholeheartedly support this video. FOTCV, here I come!
dchaosblade 4 years ago
Excellent video. It's nice to hear someone defending a share service without going overboard and defending the use of unauthorized copywritten content.
The voluntary involvement of large media companies(NBC etc)in videosharing works in YouTube's favor. This shows that they are not bothered by the site and are eager to benefit from the potential marketing boost.
That being said, YouTube should make more of an effort to crack down on unauthorized content to stay out of trouble.
jonesuf 4 years ago
YOU TUBE MAKES MONEY?
shakaama 4 years ago
In ads they do, nice video
isdp2 4 years ago
any website whose address ends with ".com" makes money
Painkiller24 4 years ago
Very Informative, and im not a law geek. :P
xetlive 4 years ago
I hate the copyright laws...thats why my other account got banned...
PheenixTears420 4 years ago
Copyright laws exist so that artists can be successful and continue to create media for you to enjoy. Copyright also exists so that original concepts won't be destroyed by non-canon content.
alezunde 4 years ago
A friend of mine in the recording industry tole me they're as corrupt as boxing promoters and cheat the hell out of struggling artists. Of course, if their pilfered goods are copied on a low-quality, non-profit made-with-love video that I doubt causes them Any loss, they scream. Greedy Corporate Bums rule the world, alas. Some day we'll get rid of them.
cybervigilante 4 years ago
Sadly, the illegal ones are my favorite and I don't want to flag them! If they were gone ... I doubt I'd care about YouTube.
1337Batgirl 4 years ago 2
Exactly what I was thinking when he said that!
liz1060 3 years ago
Information is free.
awfultin 4 years ago
I agree with most of the content being bad, i.e: whole episodes of shows uploaded. But stuff like: Movie clips/ fan made music videos and the like do more to help then hurt. You could see a movie clip on youtube and like it so much that you'll go out and buy the movie. Fan made music vidoes (amv's, videos using movies) are not wrong. They're just fun to make, that's all.
David999999 4 years ago
I can rarely be bothered with television. Were it not for Youtube, my recent purchases of music from artists encountered here would not have been made.
unlikely2 4 years ago
Consider lawschool? I'm acing it! :D You know when you watch something like this for recreation you're a lawgeek.
d00deth 4 years ago
LAME! crack down on serial killers and bwank robbers. Forget people who can't make a living paying for people who make millions/year!
TargettR 4 years ago
It's fun while it lasted. Everything's limited, not forever.
silvianraccoon 4 years ago
damn this is just great Viacom and NBC should know by now its not youtube's fault nor is it ours all we are doing is watching the episode or movie by the network it was programmed on the network that is not illegal there is nothing wrong with that
Adog952 4 years ago
You know Youtube is being sued by VIACOM, NBC, ect. I say their just bunch of ASSHOLES. And you can't protect copyright vidoes, it's becuase everyone records the shows and have them view on our website, anyone agreeds? Plus no commercials.
genestarwindjf 4 years ago
youtube better not get sued
riceboi78 4 years ago
As every clip has a 100MB limit & mono soundtrack the quality is inferior.
As for music video/TV clips it's actually doing the publishers more good than harm because it's advertising their material.
nicmeddy 4 years ago