Sum 41 is excellent in making repetitive songs on one album. In my opinion, Chuck is the most versatile album they made. Underclass Hero has got some cool tracks, but after listening to the first 3 tracks, you don't need to really listen to everything to get the impression of the album (except for King of the Contradiction).
Basically Deryck hates the bass, he wants it to all be about guitars and bass cant just be boring all the time, Cone's way would of worked so much better
Cone's bass cant even be heard on most Sum 41 songs! Deryck should of let him do it, when deryck said its not a bass going up there? What does he think they made a 19th fret for?
I think that Deryck was right. I'm a bassist myself, and also play guitar, and also a songwriter and I see what he was going for and it really wouldnt have been as powerful if he had gone higher, done what he wanted to do.
i feel for deryck, i'm the guitarist/singer/songwriter in my band, and not gonna lie i'm kinda a control freak about the shit we come up w/, but i def think it's sometimes a pain to tell the bassist or drummer to something a certain way when they don't wanna, but if you're the one who wrote the song in the first place (like deryck), i think you've got every right to do that.
Ye, I get the that feeling too. Though I can relate a LOT to it as well. The songs that he create are like his babies and when discussing the arrangements of the songs it's like arguing over how it should be raised.
You'd assume that for Good Charlotte's father as well. Maybe he just doesn't want to be part of Deryck's life. It sucks, but it's life. Some people are dicks.
That's what I like about my band. Most of the song writing is done by me and the guitarist. When Steve brings a riff, he just plays, I make a bassline, and the drummer does his thing. When I bring in a riff, I let Steve doe what he wants, and the drummer does what he wants. So in theory, all the songs are written by all us. We are a band, no the ______ Solo Project.
i know its obviously good to listen and to try out other things but if you are dead set on something YOU have written by yourself then its hard to change it i guess =/
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i can understand where both dyreck and cone are coming from arguing over that bass part, but dyreck wrote the song and thats what HE wants it to be and its fucking annoying when someone in your band doesnt play it the way it is written
MM that's true, but it's kinda stupid if a bandmate can take the song in a new direction that actually sounds better. Always be open for improvement, instead of being stuck up your own arse is probably the moral of this comment :P
i agree with you people, Cone should have to decide a little bit more ? Cause he is actually the bass player? Its he´s instrument and deryck should listen to him ? cause he is the one who can the instrument most. I like cone, i like deryck, but there is three in the band, not only one. BUt i guess they solve everything so its cool.
I know it sounds like he's conceited in this video talking about himself a lot but he is the guitar player, they write almost to all of the songs for his band. That's why he talks about himself a lot writing.
i can't believe that it's you saying that , if it was someone else, i'd be typing like 1000 F word/sec , he's the PRODUCER , he's supposed to boss around, and like Cone said : it's not a sign of an unhealthy relationship,they all want the best for this album , Deryck went a lil bit personal with UH , if he wanted a personal project, then he could do a side project , and every musician in the Punk Rock industry would love to do it with him.
Well just because Deryck is the producer doesn't mean he should restrict Cone's parts. I mean, he writes the songs AND chooses how he wants the band (the bass) to play their parts? Cone can't get creative if Deryck restricts him. Plus, when Greig Nori was producer he seemed to keep everything level and bass parts weren't repetative. It's good that they argue and get it out... but I think Cone should get to play what he wants too sometimes.
I love Cone so much
XD
dundeerox 3 weeks ago
Sum 41 is excellent in making repetitive songs on one album. In my opinion, Chuck is the most versatile album they made. Underclass Hero has got some cool tracks, but after listening to the first 3 tracks, you don't need to really listen to everything to get the impression of the album (except for King of the Contradiction).
Martijnnaber 1 month ago
They should have met half-ways, they do it twice with the bass low, then the other two times with it high... that's always how my band does it.
delgado4652 1 month ago
Basically Deryck hates the bass, he wants it to all be about guitars and bass cant just be boring all the time, Cone's way would of worked so much better
Jordo1900 2 months ago
This is how the creative process goes. it goes back and forth. one idea gets modified with another and with others.
redbarron718 2 months ago
fucking perfect album
phreshnphamous7 4 months ago
I WANNA SEE STEVO 32 WITH LONG HAIR!
182mAw 6 months ago
STEVO 32!!
182mAw 6 months ago
hmmz its good that cone wanted the octave thing...cause underclass hero has alot of that catchy g,d,em,c chord progressions...
but...how deryck it wanted was better..it fits the song more..
heerserjordi95 7 months ago
I wanna see "Making of Screaming Bloody Murder" ^^
underman0200 8 months ago 6
Wait Deryck never meet his father??
deadman66654 9 months ago
@deadman66654 not allegedly
underman0200 8 months ago
@deadman66654 yeah thats wat the song Dear Father is about
TheShadowslayer1000 8 months ago
Poor Cone it must be boring for him, although it sounds great so ...
But in the new album we can hear bass better so it's cool
IIHazel 9 months ago
I love the lyrics for his demos...better than the official lyrics for confusion and frustration in modern times
Acesofrazgriz14 10 months ago
screaming bloody murder is better XDD
xxxxCrAzYRoCkErxxxx 11 months ago
On The next song they do, i want to hear a BASS solo.
redbarron718 1 year ago
Cone's bass cant even be heard on most Sum 41 songs! Deryck should of let him do it, when deryck said its not a bass going up there? What does he think they made a 19th fret for?
Jordo1900 1 year ago
There's Cone's Tattoo at 1:00
madin182 1 year ago
2:50
Isn't that Skumfuck?
grassvalleystudios 1 year ago
@grassvalleystudios
Nah, it's the end of Pull the Curtain. Pretty similar, though.
r1verqueen 1 year ago
I think that Deryck was right. I'm a bassist myself, and also play guitar, and also a songwriter and I see what he was going for and it really wouldnt have been as powerful if he had gone higher, done what he wanted to do.
himaforlyf 1 year ago 2
What mic is he singing into at 3:00 and out?
TrodinX 1 year ago
The bass is pretty boring on Underclass Hero, it's kinda the same over again all the time. That's a shame cause it's a ver,very,very great album.
Julle7Julius 1 year ago
Anyone notice that Deryck is wearing Avril Lavigne socks
Justinman1992 1 year ago
i feel for deryck, i'm the guitarist/singer/songwriter in my band, and not gonna lie i'm kinda a control freak about the shit we come up w/, but i def think it's sometimes a pain to tell the bassist or drummer to something a certain way when they don't wanna, but if you're the one who wrote the song in the first place (like deryck), i think you've got every right to do that.
offspringgta 1 year ago
@offspringgta I know what you. Sometimes, it can drive someone insane to be a songwrtier
TheSUM41FREAK 1 year ago
I love sum 41 this has made me see deryk differently, he's a great front but rather selfish :)
josho46 1 year ago
this is why dave left because deruck is very selfish artisticly
Recedebo 1 year ago
Ye, I get the that feeling too. Though I can relate a LOT to it as well. The songs that he create are like his babies and when discussing the arrangements of the songs it's like arguing over how it should be raised.
geitepung 1 year ago
whats the song that deryck sings at 2:51 to 2.58?
anticena4life 2 years ago
@anticena4life pull the curtain
blackhawkRFLX 1 year ago
@Regited Well maybe his parents got drunk or something and never even learned eachothers name? Or soomething like that
mindthreat44 2 years ago
i think what cone wanted sounded batter anyways......lol stevo just has to sit there while they argue
crazymexicanomg 2 years ago 27
@crazymexicanomg So ... ?
ObsCure97Sum41 7 months ago
You'd assume that for Good Charlotte's father as well. Maybe he just doesn't want to be part of Deryck's life. It sucks, but it's life. Some people are dicks.
Bejinxd 2 years ago 4
That's what I like about my band. Most of the song writing is done by me and the guitarist. When Steve brings a riff, he just plays, I make a bassline, and the drummer does his thing. When I bring in a riff, I let Steve doe what he wants, and the drummer does what he wants. So in theory, all the songs are written by all us. We are a band, no the ______ Solo Project.
WowDudeFilms 2 years ago
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fuck sake wat a dick a bass player shud not b restricted like tha, fuck tha little poser deryck
gtufty789 2 years ago
i know its obviously good to listen and to try out other things but if you are dead set on something YOU have written by yourself then its hard to change it i guess =/
kierenalder 2 years ago 5
p.s i meant deryck.. i cant spell =P
kierenalder 2 years ago
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i can understand where both dyreck and cone are coming from arguing over that bass part, but dyreck wrote the song and thats what HE wants it to be and its fucking annoying when someone in your band doesnt play it the way it is written
kierenalder 2 years ago
MM that's true, but it's kinda stupid if a bandmate can take the song in a new direction that actually sounds better. Always be open for improvement, instead of being stuck up your own arse is probably the moral of this comment :P
tanguyen11 2 years ago
i agree with you =) i guess its just down to personal preference so whatever =)
kierenalder 2 years ago
ALL band members must have own opinion. its not about what ONE member wants, its not matter who wrote songs... all must be included
glutchman 2 years ago
Steve should decide :]
midnightinmotionband 2 years ago 2
i agree with you people, Cone should have to decide a little bit more ? Cause he is actually the bass player? Its he´s instrument and deryck should listen to him ? cause he is the one who can the instrument most. I like cone, i like deryck, but there is three in the band, not only one. BUt i guess they solve everything so its cool.
blomgren182 3 years ago
I know it sounds like he's conceited in this video talking about himself a lot but he is the guitar player, they write almost to all of the songs for his band. That's why he talks about himself a lot writing.
SweepxThexLeg 3 years ago
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deryck is a dumb
09Anything09 3 years ago
shut up motherfucker,
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hg9006 2 years ago
cones ideas were better no questions asked! No offense deryck!
Coneluvr41 3 years ago 24
Lol, I wouldn't go that far. I think Cone should get to write his parts though, since he plays it.
SociallyInept182 3 years ago 6
I'm quite fond of Deryck, but he needs to accept that this is not only his project.
phililili23 3 years ago 3
i can't believe that it's you saying that , if it was someone else, i'd be typing like 1000 F word/sec , he's the PRODUCER , he's supposed to boss around, and like Cone said : it's not a sign of an unhealthy relationship,they all want the best for this album , Deryck went a lil bit personal with UH , if he wanted a personal project, then he could do a side project , and every musician in the Punk Rock industry would love to do it with him.
Madjid41 3 years ago
Well just because Deryck is the producer doesn't mean he should restrict Cone's parts. I mean, he writes the songs AND chooses how he wants the band (the bass) to play their parts? Cone can't get creative if Deryck restricts him. Plus, when Greig Nori was producer he seemed to keep everything level and bass parts weren't repetative. It's good that they argue and get it out... but I think Cone should get to play what he wants too sometimes.
SturgisMcLaren 3 years ago
well deryck said he wanted an album that means alot to him so in a way I kinda get why he wants to change Cone's ideas.. but still i agree with you
KonshinBaka 3 years ago 2
Why is Deryck jocking on Cone?
SociallyInept182 3 years ago
coolio
deedee9 3 years ago