Personally I don't see that this particular speaker either exposed or defeated the other two. The sections of the Qurán that he quoted refer to the Jyzia tax -agreement- and whether or not non-believers pay it. Those who won't pay get mistreated. This is documented history from the Ottoman Empire. Those who did not pay the tax were persecuted. To use these verses in the way that he did, actually proves Shoebat's point. If the speaker were being truthful he would have mentioned the tax too.
At the end of the day, can someone please explain to me how the BEST example of a human being, claiming to be a messenger from GOD, at the AGE of 54 could marry and have sex with a 9 year old little girl who hadn't even reached puberty. So this is the great example Mohammad set for all mankind. Please explain your prophets way out of this one? ANY MAN KNOWS THIS IS WRONG IN SO MANY WAYS.
major manipulation of facts. Normal rhetoric from a bully pulpit. I always wonder why its fine for an Arab (bands of thieving nomads from Arabian Peninsula) to conquer a land with a bloody sword, and then assume their identities? Is he Egyptian, or Arabian? Both? Then what happened to the Egyptians? Dead or enslaved or just lost to the sands of the Sahara....
@heavenseeker5 how stupid ! Mohammed I the last messenger of Satan !!!! The Antichrist isn't a Jew my friend ! The Antichrist will be a Muslim who will be accompanied by a false Christ !
This is what all Muslims do, it's pathetic, always having to defend their Koran.Why because, It so contradictory. They will give you all the great verses promoting peace, BUT completely forget to mention and defend all the racist, hate filled and violent verses against all other people and religons.(that's why we have suicide bombers) This will always be a problem for Islam, and for those of us who can read, we know the truth. Islam is full of holes.
@amanwithdreams Muslims "always" have to defend their Koran," because most Christians are to lazy to read it, in-fact most don't read the Bible. Read a book and stop being a dumb Christian.
@Legend1One Which sura would you like me to comment on? Since you like to call people names, please note; calling yourself the "ONE LEGEND" is really, really dumb and egotistical. Is that the typical behaviour of a peaceful muslim?
@amanwithdreams Comment on Sura 1 - Al Fatiha. Now, to your second point, stating a fact is not name calling; as noted in your comment... "calling yourself the "ONE LEGEND" is really, really dumb and egotistical." So, I agree with your statement of fact... if my screen name were "ONE LEGEND," however, it's not ONE LEGEND, it's Legend One. Your the perfect case study, and you must admit you set yourself up on this one. LOL. But in all sincerity, since you asked, comment on Sura 1 (Al Fatiha).
@Legend1One "Legend One, One Legend" = Same meaning. I don't have an issue with this prayer, as it's really not a sura, as man made it up. It's a prayer to Allah, it's not inspired from Allah to man.
@Legend1One Please don't ask me to answer questions you should know as someone who says this prayer 5 times a day right? Unlike every other surah, Allah is in the second person. That is Allah is spoken to. It would be bizarre for the supposed divine author of a revelatory work to speak to himself, particularly to pledge to serve and seek help from himself. Therefore it's obviously a man made prayer, I don't know by who.
@amanwithdreams "Allah is in the second person."? Allah also refers to himself as "WE" in some Verses.
you really need to educate yourself more about when he uses such style of speech and why! When he uses I or My, it's about his love, forgiveness, care, etc. Using plural is usually about his power, glory, wrath, etc.
even in our daily conversation, sometimes we use a style of speech like that. In French, to show respect to someone you say, you address them by vous (plural you)....
@musnoure Ok Give me an example. I also speak french, what you are stating is wrong. "Vous" simply means YOU. Where on earth do you get your meaning from? It can only be in a plural form if you have it in a sentence, not on it's own. I also speak German and Italian.
@amanwithdreams "Allah is in the second person."? Allah also refers to himself as "WE" in some Verses." The Semetic Languages make us of something termed "the plural of magesty." So, when "WE" is used by Allah in the Holy Quran in regards to an act that he does, it does not mean he has help, but to the contrary the action is unilateral.
@amanwithdreams I just wanted you to say Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Do a little research on him. He was an umi (illiterate man) could not read or write his own name. Also, the Holy Quran is the highest standard of Arabic in the history of the semetic and Arabic speaking world, and it challenges it's detractors to produce a sentence like it. Question, could an umi person be the author of such a sura or book?
@Legend1One I believe that Mohammad could read and write and here's my proof as to why. The historian al Tabari writes: " Tabari 9:174 on Mohammad's death bed "The Messenger's pain became so severe he said, 'Give me pen and paper so I may write a document for you so you will never go astray after me.'" The Sahih collectors Muslim and Bukhari record the incident. Sunan Abu-Dawud recorded, "Apostle of Allah (pbuh) wrote the document for Umayr Dhu Marran.." So much for your mystical theory.
@amanwithdreams The Holy Quran tells us Prophet Muhammad was an umi. Where you got this nonsensical story from is beyond me, because it not from an authentic Hadith. Even if I agreed with your statement, it still doesn't explain how a human being could produce a master piece in language and prose like the Holy Quran. It's the epitome of the Arabic speaking people boldly challenging the disbelievers to produce a chapter like it... and believe me, many have tried and failed.
@Legend1One That's a riddiculous arguement, heres why. The koran is all over the place, it is just a collection of material, there is no organisation to the storys. Unlike the Holy Bible which has a consistent theme throughout.
It's also like telling someone try and write music like Mozart. NO one can, but that doesn't make him special, just the first in that style. Remember Mohammad used teachings from the Talmud and Bible, he didn't make them up.
@amanwithdreams My friend, the Holy Quran is composed unlike any other book on the planet... There is no "Once upon a time" lead in (like the Bible and every other book that's been authored by the hand of man). To the contrary, the Holy Quran is a book of instruction to mankind and not a fairy tale or drama, with plot points connecting Acts One, Two, and Three. You see, my friend, this further cements the case for the Quran. God's book is to tell us what to do, not provide us a colorful story.
@Legend1One The quran is a book of Bullshit and death and war and oppression against the real scumbags of the planet the Islamic Mooooslims. You Muslims can take your pedophile prophet Mohaaaammad and shove it. You allah is what we call Satan and your prophet is nothing more than a serial killer who bastardized the Torah and some of the Bible stolen the verses and made up his own sick twisted bullshit religion to give all you assholes a reason to be assholes. You're all children of the grave
@Ultramediacorp Your Bible is full of shit that is changed everyday by so called "scholars" to fit the society. You people worship Jesus Christ so much but quote me a single verse of any version of the Bible where Jesus himself declares him the God or that he should be worshipped. Being Son of God is the mythical bullshit that only low life fiction writers of the old ages can come up with. The western culture is full of immoral and unethic crap shown by their own media! Mfker!
@DrKaziFaisal: Whats the matter puss-cake? The pedophile profit Muhammad ream your ass to much as a child? Your Dad stone your sister after you nailed her and he had to Honor kill her and now you miss the sex? Or is it you can't look your mother in the face because of third degree burns you daddy made pouring sulfuric acid over her face for talkin smack to him to keep him from beating your dumb ass you terrorist piece of sharia shit.
@DrKaziFaisal Yeah maybe your book could use some updating to shit head. Stoning people killing gays all that bullshit dun seem very contemporary in todays civilized world shit head so go back to you cave and eat shit for all i care. Muslims are nothing but pigs
@DrKaziFaisal Why are you making the Jews look bad you crazy motherfucker, don't get your hands dirty but make others do the dirty jobs, is that what your sick religion teaches you. May the wives and sisters you raped fuck you up one day as revenge!
@DrKaziFaisal Jesus actually praised Peter for saying that He (Jesus) was the Christ. He was asked directly under oath by Ciaphas if he considered himself to be the Son of God, and he, without hesitation, said I am and you shall see the son of man seated at the right side of the Father in all his glory. Jesus refered to Himself as the Son of Man often as he was referring to his human incarnation. He appears throughout the Bible - including in the old Testament which most do not understand.
@amanwithdreams Now, you said the Holy Quran is "so contridictory" and asked that I pick any sura for you to comment on... I did... and in turn you didn't point out a contridiction, in-fact, you seemed to like it... other than the fact, as you say, it's not inspired by Allah (SAW). Therefore, I ask you to pick any sura to comment on.
Lastly, if I may ask, what is your religions background? Thank you.
@Legend1One I never said "every" sura is contradictory. There are some great teachings in Islam which most likely came about from judeo/Christian influences of the time. Islam is made up of pagan practices, (kissing the black stone) combined with judeo and Christian influences, with it's own mix thrown in for good measure.
If you actually study in detail you will find many of the teachings from Mohammad to be false, therefore making him out to be a false prophet.
@amanwithdreams When Jesus returns, will he bring another Holy Book as a guidance to people? No. Very simple to understand that the Quran embodies previous scriptures and the it's the FINAL book! Jesus's return is a sign of the end of the world and he will not return with other scriptures!
@musnoure When Jesus Christ returns every knee will bow. There is no need for another book as we already have the Holy BIble which guides us in every detail of life. The Koran NEVER brought any good new teachings for mankind. All the required teachings were completed with the NT.
@musnoure When Jesus Christ returns every knee will bow. There is no need for another book as we already have the Holy BIble which guides us in every detail of life. The Koran NEVER brought any good new teachings for mankind. All the required teachings were completed with the NT.
@musnoure Yes Jesus Is GOD. Col. 2:9 - "For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form." John 10:30-33 - "I and the Father are one." John 8:58 - "Jesus said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.'"
@amanwithdreams Sorry to step in here but I see you mentioned Islam is made up of pagan practices (kissing the black stone). Do you agree on the fact that the black stone was stolen once and even if it was dislocated, pilgrimage was NOT suspended and the direction of praying was NOT changed! Why?
@amanwithdreams Kissing the black stones represents nothing but as when a person returns to his homeland and kisses some of his homeland marks.
'Umar came near the Black Stone and kissed it and said "No doubt, I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit anyone nor harm anyone. Had I not seen Allah's Apostle kissing you I would not have kissed you."
@musnoure When I go away on holiday, I don't kiss anything other than my family when I return. Your explanation is pure nonsense. If Islam is so high on boasting about not having Idols, like the pagans once did, this is a completely contradictory practice. If the stone is useless as you claim, a non-living thing, therefore it's a pagan practice, and because Mohammad kissed it shows exactly why he is a false prophet. It's called Idolatry.
@amanwithdreams That is not a relevant example, I can simply say that people kiss pictures, don't they! Knowing that picture is an OBJECT. You did not respond when I asked why Muslims changed the direction of praying and pilgrimage was not suspended or paused when the black stone was taken away!
@musnoure The muslims changed the direction of praying because the Jews joked and stirred Mohammad claiming if it wasn't for them, he wouldn't even know which direction to pray in. In anger and to spite them he faced the opposite direction.
@musnoure This really shows your lack of BIblical knowledge. Obviously when Jesus was on Earth he was in the form of a man, divinely inspired, so it's obvious just like any man on earth he would pray to GOD in heaven where all his strength and divine spririt came from. Jesus never commanded people to do anything he asked to follow him. If the angels are higher ranking than us, even God commanded the angels to worship Jesus (Hebrews 1:6).
@musnoure JESUS CHRIST didn't have an ego to command people to worship him, he had other motives and reasons for coming to earth. And Jesus called them to him and said to them, “You know that those who are considered rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones exercise authority over them. But it shall not be so among you. But whoever would be great among you must be your servant, and whoever would be first among you must be slave of all.
Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, cont....
@musnoure even death on a cross. Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Then in brief there is the story of when Jesus went to Bethphage and Bethany on the Mount Olive. cont...
@musnoure That was from Luke 19:28-44. The Gospel of John which is all about Jesus' self manifestation as God and as Messiah. Over and over in his signs, preaching and actions he proclaims himself God, asserts authority belonging only to God, and is condemned to death for claiming to be God. He never commanded to be worshiped as he came to serve as a man, not to be served.
@amanwithdreams Well, how can he command people to worship him if he is not God? We know that he came out of Mary's womb, he was a human being so he can't be God.
@amanwithdreams No need for another book, as you stated, that's why the Quran was the last revelation! The argument here is, you believe the Bible is the guidance and I believe it's the Quran.
Let me ask you this, Did Jesus abolish the Old Testament or not?
@musnoure NO Jesus did not abolish the OT. The Old Testament laws are categorized in three groups: the civil, the priestly, and the moral. The civil laws must be understood in the context of a theocracy. Though the Jewish nation in the Old Testament was often headed by a king, it was a theocratic system with the Scriptures as a guide to the nation. Those laws that fall under this category are not applicable today because we are not under a theocracy.
@musnoure The priestly laws dealing with the Levitical and Aaronic priesthoods were representative of the future and true High Priest Jesus, who offered Himself as a sacrifice on the cross. Since Jesus fulfilled the priestly laws, they are no longer necessary to be followed and are not now applicable.
The moral laws, on the other hand, are not abolished, because the moral laws are based upon the character of God. cont....
@musnoure Since God's holy character does not change, the moral laws do not change either. Therefore, the moral laws are still in effect.
In the New Testament we do not see a reestablishment of the civil or priestly laws. But we do see a reestablishment of the moral law. This is why we see New Testament condemnation of homosexuality as a sin but not with the associated death penalty.
@amanwithdreams The complication lies in the Trinity. We know there is no clear cut answer for Who is God in Christianity, don't give me the 3 in 1! Why He does not make it so clear and easy for people so they can worship him? A lot of Christians worship Jesus or worship God through Jesus which in this case does not make him as God.
@musnoure The muslims changed the direction of praying because the Jews joked and stirred Mohammad claiming if it wasn't for them, he wouldn't even know which direction to pray in. In anger and to spite them he faced the opposite direction.
@amanwithdreams My native language is Arabic, I read the Quran in Arabic and English, so I know what I read and I know what does "man" mean in all contexts. Now, what Verse are you talking about and what is your question?
@amanwithdreams Allow me to quote you: "This is what all Muslims do, it's pathetic, always having to defend their Koran.Why because, It so contradictory."
Now, I ask that you find one out right contradiction in the Holy Quran, a book revealed over a 23 year period. Secondly, nowhere in the Holy Quran does it say for believers to kiss the black stone, the Prophet did so out of emotion.
Lastly, the Holy Prophet (PBUH) was the Holy Quran, now name one teaching of the Prophet that was false.
@Legend1One One contradiction, oh please that's too easy. Lets start with the fact that all muslims claim the koran is in it's pure arabic form, every word correct and in arabic right.? Wrong....Look what the Shafi’i quoted on the above mentioned verses (16:103 and 41:44). The Shafi’i want to defend these verses but he is not able to ignore the facts which all Muslim scholars verify along with the companions and the legists such as ibn ’Abbas, Mujahid, ibn Jubayr, ’Akrama, and ’Ata. cont.....
@amanwithdreams LOL... In what way does (16:103 and 14:44) contradict or cancell each other? My friend, please get a Holy Quran and read it. You're funny... a complete riot... I haven't seen a stretch this far since Jakie Robinson tried to turn an infield single into a double.
@Legend1One Also included in this group is the Suyuti as well as other scholars like Dr. Muhammad Rajab who expressed his views in "Solidarity" (al-Tadamun) magazine (April, 1989 issue). In his book, "The Itqan" (part 2, pp. 108-119), the Suyuti lists 118 non-Arabic words recorded in the Qur’an. Ibn ’Abbas, himself (along with other great Companions) asserts that some Qur’anic words are Persian, Ethiopian and Nabatean (p. 105). Dr. Bayyumi also confirms the Suyuti’s opinions and views. cont.....
@Legend1One It is obvious that this is a contradiction, especially since there are about 118 non-Arabic words—not just five or ten words. The simple explanation for this contradiction is that Muhammad himself did not know that the origin of the words he employed in the Qur’an were non-Arabic. He was not aware that some of them were Persian, Ethiopian, Berber, Turkish and Nabatean; thus, he claimed that the entire Qur’an was revealed in pure Arabic language.
@amanwithdreams This is a riot, people, as in fun-un-ny! My friend, your talking about "borrowed" words. Certainly there are borrowed words in the Holy Quran, but the word had been intergrated into the Arabic language.
Example: Do you drink alcohol?
Now, in the above example, the word "alcohol" is a borrowed word (from arabic), however, the sentence is pure English, because the word alcohol has been completely swallowed by the english language.
@Legend1One Excuse me. You have been proven wrong clearly and your way of dealing with it is to cover it up with humour, unfortunatley you can't defend the fact that there are 118 words which are not original arabic words, therefore the Koran cannot be 100% from God. You fail and all english comes from early forms of language. Borrowed words? Now I am laughing, English borrows words not the other way round.
@amanwithdreams What makes you think that the Arabic language, like English, is not a borrowed language from previous languaged. As you know, Arabic, along with Hebrew, Aramaic, and others is a branch of Cush languaged, many of which are now termed "dead languaged." The verse regarding it being an Arabic Quran has to do with it coming to an Arabic speaking people. Allah (God) is the author of all languages not just the Arabic langauge, so, once again, you've lost me. I'm dumfounded with you.
@Legend1One Another contradictioni in the chapter, "al Waqiha," the Qur’an talks about those who are destined to enter paradise. It states in verses 13 & 14 that the majority will be from the nations who came before Muhammad and the minority will be from peoples who believed in Muhammad. But in the same chapter (verses 39 & 40), it is said that the majority will be from those people who came before and after Muhammad also. This is a contradiction in the same chapter.
@amanwithdreams I don't mean to be disrespectful, however, your reading comprehension is low. Verses 13 - 14 is a prophesy regarding the umma (Muslim community) in the hear after... the best muslims being the companions of the Prophet (PBUH) and the generation of muslim immediately following his advent being more faithful and deserving of the Hear after than those of us in later generation. Verses 39-40 says that their will be many from old (the Prophets time) and many of later (end time) will
@amanwithdreams ...basically, will have their reward. This is not a contradiction. Many from both generation (the Prophets up to the final generation) will be rewarded for what they've earned, although the bell curve will tilt towards those nearest the Prophets time (PBUH). Furthermore, the Holy Quran speaks about the companions of the Prophet as being the best generation of muslims, and in an Hadith it says that 3 generation after the Prophet the umma would begin to fall back (to disbelief).
@Legend1One The false hood of mohammad. The Satanic Verses, not from Christian or Jewish sources, but from early Muslim writings. Accounts of the Satanic Verses are given in a number of early sources, including: (1) Ibn Ishaq, (2) Wakidi, (3) Ibn Sa’d, (4) al-Tabari, (5) Ibn Abi Hatim, (6) Ibn al-Mundhir, (7) Ibn Mardauyah, (8) Musa ibn 'Uqba, and (9) Abu Ma'shar.[6] According to the great Muslim scholar Ibn Hajar, three chains of transmission (isnad) cont.....
@Legend1One..... in these accounts "satisfy the conditions requisite for an authentic report."[7] Moreover, Sahih al-Bukhari, Islam’s most trusted source on the life of Muhammad, gives indirect confirmation of the event also. If a prophet call fall victim to black magic or satan, he is definately no prophet of GOD, no matter what spin you put on it. It was foretold in the Holy Bible that any prophet who claims false Gods, which mohammad did and false prophercies he cannot be a true prophet.
@amanwithdreams "Satanic verses?" Don't swollow the nonsense that the enemies of Islam (The Prophet) propogated. This is were you go far astray. Now, to bring you back on point, you quoted 9 names, but NO verses of satanic orgin in the Holy Quran. So, are there any satanic verses that can be found in the pages of the Holy Quran? If so, Chapter and verse please.
Maybe you should just agree that their is no "satanic verse" anywhere in the Holy Quran. There may be some in the hearts of men, not HQ
@amanwithdreams Now, if you can't or don't provide proof to your aformentioned claims, that makes you a liar. Agreed? Keep in mind, all of your wittnesses must be found in The Holy Quran! (We're in court, so to speak, so, prove your case.) Provide Sura (Chapter) and verse please.
@amanwithdreams Sura 56 has been clearly been answered. I just read sura 53:19-23, what's the contradiction here? Your reading comprehension is truly lacking. (S.O.S....Anyone who chooses to, please read Sura 53:19-23 in the Holy Quran and inform me of it's contradiction.)
@amanwithdreams I pray you study the life of Jesus Christ and learn the truth from the darkness you are following. There is no other saviour other than Jesus Christ. It's so obvious yet Muslims don't think it through. IF Mohammad was the final seal of prophets then why does Islam teach that Jesus Christ will be returning. That means Jesus will be the final seal and Mohammd is not, making all the claims about Mohammad as false. Very simple.
@Legend1One I am a Christian. One of the other biggest problems is that Mohammad had many self serving revelations. Even Aisha commented on this as it was so obvious. The law for Muslims is to have only 4 wives, yet Mohammad claimed he had received a special law to allow him to have as many as he liked. At 54 years of age he married and had sex with a pre-pubescent girl. Explain to me how a man of GOD would do such a thing??
Who cares which countries the Muslims suicide bombers came from, either way they came from following the religion of Islam. That is a fact, no matter what spin you put on it. Without the Sura's from the Koran which also promote violence, racism and jihad, suicide bombers wouldn't exist.
This Fadel guy pulls out personal experiences of his coptic christian and jewish egyptian friends as if it represents the majority. It is the majority that counts and stands for something. Just because you go to A Jewish watchmen for your yearly repairs, it doesn't mean that the majority of Jews in the middle east did not flee to Israel at it's birth because they did.
@particle58 antichrist my ignorant friend, is found in the scripture being a Jew. Muhammad is an Arab...Try finding the error. No insult please, we know the truth can be annoying, opening your eyes to something that shows you, that all you did believe in wasn't true, thus rejecting it, is more easy than accepting it...Muhammad (PBUH) is the last messenger of God, how is it so hard to accept it ? give YOURSELF a chance and learn about it from honest and qualified people.
Is this guy making and advertisement for halal kebabs? haha and why is he all over the place? he looks like a clown just needs one moneky there to make the show more interesting! muhamed monkey is dead sadly lol ;-)))
what kills me here is how these muslims don't see that spreading their religion is dangerous.....if you have freedom now and the muslims succede in out-numbering the infidels then Sharia will prevail....they will re-create the facist islamic government control that so many have tried to escape from for a better life in a free country....the key here is women...and muslim men know it.....islamic women need to wake up and take a look at Syria...Iran....Afghanistan...where the muslims are majority
@preservwestculture What are you talking about? Syrian and Iranian women are very educated (look at the numbers of men and women enrolled in colleges there). Afghanistan is a war torn country and they are culturally a bit backwards, but that can change one day (if the war ends).
Islam is not the enemy, nor is Sharia. Islam is about protecting life and property and dignity and freedom to practice religion (not freedom to denigrate what people hold sacred).
how bout the moderates standing up against the radical Islam like the Widerstand in Germany and not blaming the West only for standing up against radical Islam??
@theromashka1 You sound like a mindless sports fan that irrationally cheers for "your team." Why not try to be objective and hear people out and make up your own mind? Why not research the matter honestly?
Remember, the "winner" is not the person who happens to have the truth, it's the person who ENDS UP WITH the truth, no matter what it is.
@amuslimguy I think that most rational thing is to chose the group that supports civilized behavior and not backwardness and violence. Walid Shoebat and Nonie Darwish are my heros. They both are ex muslims and support the only genuine democracy in the Middle East. People like that get tremendous respect from me simply because they were smart enough to realize things they stand for today!
@theromashka1 Did anything that Fadel said contravene 'civilized behavior' and support 'backwardness and violence?' I think not.
Democracy is great for the people living within it, but it can mean absolutely nothing to other nations if it's an oppressive nation that brutally occupies it's neighbor. Why should this excuse its behavior? A hypothetical monarchy that deals justly with people is better than a brutal democracy.
Btw, choose your heroes more wisely. Walid has been exposed as a fake.
@amuslimguy Not at all, Fadel is a very smart man. You said that i blindly cheer for my group and I explained you why I support these people. I don't know and I don't care what means nothing to whom. Democracy is the only way to go. Other ways are simply barbaric and against peoples basic human rights.
And regarding brutal occupation you are absolutely right! Muslims should stop occupying 98% of the Middle East and learn to live peacefully with others!
@theromashka1 Look, you're confused here. This debate is about whether Islam's normative teachings promote violence with other people. Democracy has to do with how a government rules its people. This has nothing to do with whether this democracy is peaceful with OTHER people or if it's unjustly violent.
This is why I scratch my head at comments like yours, which we often hear in defense of Israel. When people condemn its brutality and violence towards OTHERS, it responds that it's a democracy!
@amuslimguy Israeli brutality? There is no such thing. There is Islamic brutality and aggression and Israeli retaliation. Islamic aggression is what made Israeli army on of the top armies in the world. Constant real time training. And yes, Israel is the only genuine democracy in the Middle East, that is why our country and society have better moral values then our violent and backward neighbors.
@theromashka1 Okay, well I didn't realize you were Israeli. Then I don't expect you to see anyone else's perspective.
Islam protected the rights of Jews in Palestine for centuries, and they lived side by side in Muslim Spain. The only "agression" you see is in response to the establishment of a state where the native inhabitants were expelled at gunpoint, with many of the refugees concentrated in camps with military checkpoints. You've got things backwards. But I'm not going to debate history.
@amuslimguy ......it's Jewish land now...get over yourself......it was given to the Jews by the civilized world.....because the Jews have a history there.......so accept reality you idiot......it is what it is.......they are there...the Jews were peaceful people of the book according to the history I have studied....the reason they are hated by muslims is because the barbaric so-called prophet Mohammed could not persuade them awayfrom their religion.....into his....so he killed them....pedophile
@preservwestculture Explain the 6,000,000 Million Jews that were killed by your Christian Nazi Party. I wonder what happened there?
Also ever read the Old Testament lately about the Peacful Jews. Ever read about the Stern Gang? The Ergun Gang? The King David Bombing? The Levon affair? The USS Liberty?
I dont know which history you are reading but I you need to pull your head out of your ASS.
@preservwestculture what history did you read? That's false. The Prophet respected their right to remain Jews and practice their religion and would defend their right. The tribes in Medina that committed treason met their fate according to their own justice system. Otherwise, Jews have been allowed to live peacefully within Muslim lands for centuries, and that will continue. The oppressive expansionist state of Israel is an exception. And the "civilized world" is really the militarized world.
@nidal07796 Nuking terrorist who shoots rockets on Israeli civilians while hiding among their own. That is a typical barbaric islamic behavior. In every normal society real men protect women and children first. In case of Islamist from gaza they are hiding among civilians. Brave soldiers of allah...LOL!
@theromashka1 typical you stole their land of them and push them up all the way to gaza and fucking carpet bomb them beacuse of one or two individuals who throw khatousha rockets that are home made and dont even kill anyone dont be foolish your ignorant proparly zionist or american stupid and uneducated every intifada more kids and women are killed the un headquarters in gaza the secondry school or where the barbaric islamits hiding there or the gaza flotilla they were barbaric islamists too.
@nidal07796 They wish that it would be their land. Their land is in 22 arabic countries and 57 islamic countries!
Brave Israeli soldiers risking their own lives to protect so called civilians who do everything to assist the terrorists including sending their own children to be a human shield. Humans don't do that. Humans protect their kids from harm. Savages send their kids to death with suicide belts!
@theromashka1 ....these idiots have managed to take the last thing muslim women have awayfrom them....the God-given innate desire to love and protect their children....it's a sick sick sick society......and I have enough faith to know that they will not succede for much longer....evil never does......islam is going down....
Spoken like a true Child of Incest and a Lover of Sodomy.
yeah it is obvious you would take a fraud for a Hero right? What a nice role model to have, maybe you should recommend Ron Jeremy for your Mother she might enjoy his member like the Aholah and Aholibah of the Old Testament that enjoyed the Members of Donkies and Discharge of Horses. This is what Geert Wilders Believes in so since he is your hero you should follow his ways, right? or would that be too much?
@szuhbi I am not muslim and my parents are not related! Children of incest are majority of muslim community of the Middle East because majority of marriages in M.E are first and second cousin marriage! Sodomy?! What is that ?! You mean Islamic pedophilia or Islamic bestiality? Even your prophet loved to rape little girls and had many war captives that he used for sex. If that is your man of god I know exactly who you are!
@theromashka1 No they dont need to be related, no one ever said you are the seed of your father, I was thinking more like your mother slept with her brother as Per the BIBLE but its your poor daddy who does not know. You do not know what Sodomy is? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA .... Ask your daddy he will tell you
at least muslim countries nor the quran has a law that allows people to have sex with animals! if you did not now england is the only western country wich has prohibited zophilia or beastiality! and some states in the us has prohibited it and some haven´t so your actually insulting yourself more with goat banging stuff even doe i am aware their are some crasy people calling themselves muslims that might be guilty of such filthy axt
@courtesy55 Making laws against bestiality doesn't prevent the muslims to practice bestiality on daily basis. By the way western countries have laws against pedophilia which muslims practice freely in their countries. We know that pedophilia is amoral as many other things that muslims practice. That is why our morals are superior to the one's practiced in Islamic world!
yeah but i said i know that their are some muslims whom does these immoral actions or people that call themselves muslims but their actions would not be considered muslim by the majority of muslim community, & the same way making laws against beastiality or pedophilia have not stoped western people from commiting acts of beastiality or pedophilia neither, growing up in western countries i have seen many older men offering to buy alcoholic and drugs to youngsters in return for xxx
i would tell you this i know for a fact that most western people or at least a lot of them if you were to show these acts they would consider them kind of kinky,odd or bad!but you know most muslims consider acts of beastiality or pedophilia odd to & crasy just like you!the problem is some western people wants it to look like okay they all love this but we on the other hand condemn it while in reality most muslims don´t care just as long as their family stay away from the actions!
@theromashka1 You are one dumb rat no jokes your not even worthy of being classed as a human being, read the Qur'an stop basing the actions of some deranges so called 'Muslims' who do do some dirty acts but do not base thier actions on Islam read the Qur'an or shut up you ugly hater.
@theromashka1 Oh so you admit you are not the son of your father.. that's applying the Bible to the letter. hey it is not my fantasy it is your bibles teachings ok incest child.
@preservwestculture who is going to take down islam? your going to take Islam down with what? your comments on youtube will take down Islam? or with the useless american army that cannot even beat the Taliban is going to take down Islam? With the suffering economies of the west? you talk a lot of shit I noticed if you want me comments in a place like this it pays to watch what you say.or you will make a fool of yourself. But it is too late now
@theromashka1 brave israelli soilders killing kids and women your nation needs hitler again anyway the europeans didnt want you so they gave your problem to the arab they know what decieving shit your capable off .all i say your nation reminds me of the nazis i guess history repeats its self therfore i come to a conclusion heil hitler may he come back and burn all your souls
arabs are more humans than the westerns but islam made them go somewhere else.by the way arabs are much more intelligents than you and us but again islam extremism and stand still doctrin is keeping them behind now
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
For further study - Ephesians 2:1-10
What a truth - the message of our key verse in our reading today, verse 8. It is the grace of our wonderful Lord and Savior Jesus Christ - it is the grace by which we are saved. There was no work that I could do to be made pure, only the blood of Jesus Christ could cleanse me, and you, and make us whole.
even in oxford, in a supposed debate, we have denial and contortion, and this ridiculous muslim with his moh-bot cheerleaders, turns a place of serious study
into,(as usual with muslims, ie THE lowest common denominator :-) pantomime
read the history of Islamic wars and how they treated the people and read the history of Christian wars and how they treated the people . and also read the life system in the past
if you really really want the truth you will get it
read this read that! wir are passed the religion we have the humanism period now! we fought religion and left the dark ages and now because of muslims we talking about stone age!! this is where they live!
Such hate is such weakness. I wish before someone follows a certain propaganda or belief they would search in its "unbiased" content, what it teaches in morals and values.
Its sad that this world rarely has any real peaceful ppl. Just because someone is born in something and uses it to act like a jerk and selectively uses its scriptures to justify there corrupt means to an end doesn't make them right, ethical, or what they claim: Jewish, Christian or Muslim.
Man, you bring yourself down to the level of a shoe....! This walid's last name is shoe and Bat and the name suits him. He lies and fools naive Americas while they are not aware of facts. We have many other fools that are shoes to, poeple like Wafa Sultan, Brigitte Gabriel and some others.
@sirjambo Nice try. According to ur own bible, Adam lived to be 1000 yrs old, Noah 900 yrs old. According to ur own bible, Joseph was over 90, Mary not even 10. Care to xplain ? No. But I'll answer ur question, cuz you aint got no answer for me.
@sirjambo the purpose of this marriage, it was purely for sociopolitical reason. The Prophet's main concern was the future of Islam. He was interested in strengthening the Muslims by all bonds. This also explains the reason why he married the daughter of `Umar, his Second Successor. It was by his marriage to Juwayriyyah that he gained the support for Islam of the whole clan of Bani Al-Mustaliq and their allied tribes.
i'd call that a strut.
thought about it long and hard. its a strut alright.
cpnankin 2 weeks ago
Dude needs subtitles
dur1al 1 month ago
Personally I don't see that this particular speaker either exposed or defeated the other two. The sections of the Qurán that he quoted refer to the Jyzia tax -agreement- and whether or not non-believers pay it. Those who won't pay get mistreated. This is documented history from the Ottoman Empire. Those who did not pay the tax were persecuted. To use these verses in the way that he did, actually proves Shoebat's point. If the speaker were being truthful he would have mentioned the tax too.
pilotsvoice 4 months ago 2
At the end of the day, can someone please explain to me how the BEST example of a human being, claiming to be a messenger from GOD, at the AGE of 54 could marry and have sex with a 9 year old little girl who hadn't even reached puberty. So this is the great example Mohammad set for all mankind. Please explain your prophets way out of this one? ANY MAN KNOWS THIS IS WRONG IN SO MANY WAYS.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
major manipulation of facts. Normal rhetoric from a bully pulpit. I always wonder why its fine for an Arab (bands of thieving nomads from Arabian Peninsula) to conquer a land with a bloody sword, and then assume their identities? Is he Egyptian, or Arabian? Both? Then what happened to the Egyptians? Dead or enslaved or just lost to the sands of the Sahara....
falafelnsalsa 7 months ago
@heavenseeker5 how stupid ! Mohammed I the last messenger of Satan !!!! The Antichrist isn't a Jew my friend ! The Antichrist will be a Muslim who will be accompanied by a false Christ !
ledgendgoku1 7 months ago
@heavenseeker5 how stupid ! Mohammed I the last
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TheToyotauser 9 months ago
Sounds like the koran is hecka confusing and makes.....no sense!
TheToyotauser 9 months ago
This is typical of these lying muslim pigs. they use deception and half truth to make out that islam is peace and freedom. the libs eat this up.
desiguy55 9 months ago
This is what all Muslims do, it's pathetic, always having to defend their Koran.Why because, It so contradictory. They will give you all the great verses promoting peace, BUT completely forget to mention and defend all the racist, hate filled and violent verses against all other people and religons.(that's why we have suicide bombers) This will always be a problem for Islam, and for those of us who can read, we know the truth. Islam is full of holes.
amanwithdreams 9 months ago
@amanwithdreams Muslims "always" have to defend their Koran," because most Christians are to lazy to read it, in-fact most don't read the Bible. Read a book and stop being a dumb Christian.
Legend1One 7 months ago
@Legend1One Which sura would you like me to comment on? Since you like to call people names, please note; calling yourself the "ONE LEGEND" is really, really dumb and egotistical. Is that the typical behaviour of a peaceful muslim?
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
what a great muslim doing what his antichrist told him to do LIE LIE LIE
5042024 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams Comment on Sura 1 - Al Fatiha. Now, to your second point, stating a fact is not name calling; as noted in your comment... "calling yourself the "ONE LEGEND" is really, really dumb and egotistical." So, I agree with your statement of fact... if my screen name were "ONE LEGEND," however, it's not ONE LEGEND, it's Legend One. Your the perfect case study, and you must admit you set yourself up on this one. LOL. But in all sincerity, since you asked, comment on Sura 1 (Al Fatiha).
Legend1One 7 months ago
@Legend1One "Legend One, One Legend" = Same meaning. I don't have an issue with this prayer, as it's really not a sura, as man made it up. It's a prayer to Allah, it's not inspired from Allah to man.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams Yes, it is a prayer to Allah (God), and if it's not inspired by Allah, who made it up? What man made it up?
Legend1One 7 months ago
@Legend1One Please don't ask me to answer questions you should know as someone who says this prayer 5 times a day right? Unlike every other surah, Allah is in the second person. That is Allah is spoken to. It would be bizarre for the supposed divine author of a revelatory work to speak to himself, particularly to pledge to serve and seek help from himself. Therefore it's obviously a man made prayer, I don't know by who.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams "Allah is in the second person."? Allah also refers to himself as "WE" in some Verses.
you really need to educate yourself more about when he uses such style of speech and why! When he uses I or My, it's about his love, forgiveness, care, etc. Using plural is usually about his power, glory, wrath, etc.
even in our daily conversation, sometimes we use a style of speech like that. In French, to show respect to someone you say, you address them by vous (plural you)....
musnoure 7 months ago
@musnoure Ok Give me an example. I also speak french, what you are stating is wrong. "Vous" simply means YOU. Where on earth do you get your meaning from? It can only be in a plural form if you have it in a sentence, not on it's own. I also speak German and Italian.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams Of course if you have it in a sentence, that is very obvious, duh!
God refers to himself in SENTENCES, do you open the book and find in one page that contains only We, or You in plural, no!
I gave you an example from the Bible, not enough? Want more examples from the Bible?
musnoure 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams "Allah is in the second person."? Allah also refers to himself as "WE" in some Verses." The Semetic Languages make us of something termed "the plural of magesty." So, when "WE" is used by Allah in the Holy Quran in regards to an act that he does, it does not mean he has help, but to the contrary the action is unilateral.
Legend1One 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams I just wanted you to say Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Do a little research on him. He was an umi (illiterate man) could not read or write his own name. Also, the Holy Quran is the highest standard of Arabic in the history of the semetic and Arabic speaking world, and it challenges it's detractors to produce a sentence like it. Question, could an umi person be the author of such a sura or book?
Legend1One 7 months ago
@Legend1One I believe that Mohammad could read and write and here's my proof as to why. The historian al Tabari writes: " Tabari 9:174 on Mohammad's death bed "The Messenger's pain became so severe he said, 'Give me pen and paper so I may write a document for you so you will never go astray after me.'" The Sahih collectors Muslim and Bukhari record the incident. Sunan Abu-Dawud recorded, "Apostle of Allah (pbuh) wrote the document for Umayr Dhu Marran.." So much for your mystical theory.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams The Holy Quran tells us Prophet Muhammad was an umi. Where you got this nonsensical story from is beyond me, because it not from an authentic Hadith. Even if I agreed with your statement, it still doesn't explain how a human being could produce a master piece in language and prose like the Holy Quran. It's the epitome of the Arabic speaking people boldly challenging the disbelievers to produce a chapter like it... and believe me, many have tried and failed.
Legend1One 7 months ago
@Legend1One That's a riddiculous arguement, heres why. The koran is all over the place, it is just a collection of material, there is no organisation to the storys. Unlike the Holy Bible which has a consistent theme throughout.
It's also like telling someone try and write music like Mozart. NO one can, but that doesn't make him special, just the first in that style. Remember Mohammad used teachings from the Talmud and Bible, he didn't make them up.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams My friend, the Holy Quran is composed unlike any other book on the planet... There is no "Once upon a time" lead in (like the Bible and every other book that's been authored by the hand of man). To the contrary, the Holy Quran is a book of instruction to mankind and not a fairy tale or drama, with plot points connecting Acts One, Two, and Three. You see, my friend, this further cements the case for the Quran. God's book is to tell us what to do, not provide us a colorful story.
Legend1One 7 months ago
@Legend1One The quran is a book of Bullshit and death and war and oppression against the real scumbags of the planet the Islamic Mooooslims. You Muslims can take your pedophile prophet Mohaaaammad and shove it. You allah is what we call Satan and your prophet is nothing more than a serial killer who bastardized the Torah and some of the Bible stolen the verses and made up his own sick twisted bullshit religion to give all you assholes a reason to be assholes. You're all children of the grave
Ultramediacorp 6 months ago
@Ultramediacorp Son, you have been completely overtaken by deceit and deception, and blinded by hate and lack of knowledge.
Legend1One 6 months ago
@Ultramediacorp Your Bible is full of shit that is changed everyday by so called "scholars" to fit the society. You people worship Jesus Christ so much but quote me a single verse of any version of the Bible where Jesus himself declares him the God or that he should be worshipped. Being Son of God is the mythical bullshit that only low life fiction writers of the old ages can come up with. The western culture is full of immoral and unethic crap shown by their own media! Mfker!
DrKaziFaisal 6 months ago in playlist Islam
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Ultramediacorp 6 months ago
@DrKaziFaisal: Whats the matter puss-cake? The pedophile profit Muhammad ream your ass to much as a child? Your Dad stone your sister after you nailed her and he had to Honor kill her and now you miss the sex? Or is it you can't look your mother in the face because of third degree burns you daddy made pouring sulfuric acid over her face for talkin smack to him to keep him from beating your dumb ass you terrorist piece of sharia shit.
Ultramediacorp 6 months ago
@DrKaziFaisal May the Jews Kill every damn one of you mother fuckers
Ultramediacorp 6 months ago
@DrKaziFaisal Yeah maybe your book could use some updating to shit head. Stoning people killing gays all that bullshit dun seem very contemporary in todays civilized world shit head so go back to you cave and eat shit for all i care. Muslims are nothing but pigs
Ultramediacorp 6 months ago
@Ultramediacorp you are the biggest pig
gobuddyboy 6 months ago
@DrKaziFaisal Why are you making the Jews look bad you crazy motherfucker, don't get your hands dirty but make others do the dirty jobs, is that what your sick religion teaches you. May the wives and sisters you raped fuck you up one day as revenge!
DrKaziFaisal 6 months ago
@DrKaziFaisal Jesus actually praised Peter for saying that He (Jesus) was the Christ. He was asked directly under oath by Ciaphas if he considered himself to be the Son of God, and he, without hesitation, said I am and you shall see the son of man seated at the right side of the Father in all his glory. Jesus refered to Himself as the Son of Man often as he was referring to his human incarnation. He appears throughout the Bible - including in the old Testament which most do not understand.
pilotsvoice 4 months ago 2
@amanwithdreams Now, you said the Holy Quran is "so contridictory" and asked that I pick any sura for you to comment on... I did... and in turn you didn't point out a contridiction, in-fact, you seemed to like it... other than the fact, as you say, it's not inspired by Allah (SAW). Therefore, I ask you to pick any sura to comment on.
Lastly, if I may ask, what is your religions background? Thank you.
Legend1One 7 months ago
@Legend1One I never said "every" sura is contradictory. There are some great teachings in Islam which most likely came about from judeo/Christian influences of the time. Islam is made up of pagan practices, (kissing the black stone) combined with judeo and Christian influences, with it's own mix thrown in for good measure.
If you actually study in detail you will find many of the teachings from Mohammad to be false, therefore making him out to be a false prophet.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
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amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams When Jesus returns, will he bring another Holy Book as a guidance to people? No. Very simple to understand that the Quran embodies previous scriptures and the it's the FINAL book! Jesus's return is a sign of the end of the world and he will not return with other scriptures!
musnoure 7 months ago
@musnoure When Jesus Christ returns every knee will bow. There is no need for another book as we already have the Holy BIble which guides us in every detail of life. The Koran NEVER brought any good new teachings for mankind. All the required teachings were completed with the NT.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@musnoure When Jesus Christ returns every knee will bow. There is no need for another book as we already have the Holy BIble which guides us in every detail of life. The Koran NEVER brought any good new teachings for mankind. All the required teachings were completed with the NT.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams Jesus is not the savior, Muhammad is not the savior, all prophets are not saviors, the only savior is God!
Is Jesus God?
musnoure 7 months ago
@musnoure Yes Jesus Is GOD. Col. 2:9 - "For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form." John 10:30-33 - "I and the Father are one." John 8:58 - "Jesus said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.'"
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@musnoure Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams Sorry to step in here but I see you mentioned Islam is made up of pagan practices (kissing the black stone). Do you agree on the fact that the black stone was stolen once and even if it was dislocated, pilgrimage was NOT suspended and the direction of praying was NOT changed! Why?
musnoure 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams Kissing the black stones represents nothing but as when a person returns to his homeland and kisses some of his homeland marks.
'Umar came near the Black Stone and kissed it and said "No doubt, I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit anyone nor harm anyone. Had I not seen Allah's Apostle kissing you I would not have kissed you."
Volume 2, Book 26, Number 675:
musnoure 7 months ago
@musnoure When I go away on holiday, I don't kiss anything other than my family when I return. Your explanation is pure nonsense. If Islam is so high on boasting about not having Idols, like the pagans once did, this is a completely contradictory practice. If the stone is useless as you claim, a non-living thing, therefore it's a pagan practice, and because Mohammad kissed it shows exactly why he is a false prophet. It's called Idolatry.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams That is not a relevant example, I can simply say that people kiss pictures, don't they! Knowing that picture is an OBJECT. You did not respond when I asked why Muslims changed the direction of praying and pilgrimage was not suspended or paused when the black stone was taken away!
musnoure 7 months ago
@musnoure The muslims changed the direction of praying because the Jews joked and stirred Mohammad claiming if it wasn't for them, he wouldn't even know which direction to pray in. In anger and to spite them he faced the opposite direction.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams When Jesus fell on his face and prayed, whom he prayed to, God or himself?
Does Jesus commands people to worship him, no where in the bible does it say so, quote me one Verse, just one.
musnoure 7 months ago
@musnoure This really shows your lack of BIblical knowledge. Obviously when Jesus was on Earth he was in the form of a man, divinely inspired, so it's obvious just like any man on earth he would pray to GOD in heaven where all his strength and divine spririt came from. Jesus never commanded people to do anything he asked to follow him. If the angels are higher ranking than us, even God commanded the angels to worship Jesus (Hebrews 1:6).
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@musnoure JESUS CHRIST didn't have an ego to command people to worship him, he had other motives and reasons for coming to earth. And Jesus called them to him and said to them, “You know that those who are considered rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones exercise authority over them. But it shall not be so among you. But whoever would be great among you must be your servant, and whoever would be first among you must be slave of all.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@musnoure For even the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
- Mark 10:42-45
Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, cont....
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@musnoure even death on a cross. Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Then in brief there is the story of when Jesus went to Bethphage and Bethany on the Mount Olive. cont...
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@musnoure That was from Luke 19:28-44. The Gospel of John which is all about Jesus' self manifestation as God and as Messiah. Over and over in his signs, preaching and actions he proclaims himself God, asserts authority belonging only to God, and is condemned to death for claiming to be God. He never commanded to be worshiped as he came to serve as a man, not to be served.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams Well, how can he command people to worship him if he is not God? We know that he came out of Mary's womb, he was a human being so he can't be God.
musnoure 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams I am not a Biblical scholar, I am just pointing out he inexplicable.
musnoure 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams No need for another book, as you stated, that's why the Quran was the last revelation! The argument here is, you believe the Bible is the guidance and I believe it's the Quran.
Let me ask you this, Did Jesus abolish the Old Testament or not?
musnoure 7 months ago
@musnoure NO Jesus did not abolish the OT. The Old Testament laws are categorized in three groups: the civil, the priestly, and the moral. The civil laws must be understood in the context of a theocracy. Though the Jewish nation in the Old Testament was often headed by a king, it was a theocratic system with the Scriptures as a guide to the nation. Those laws that fall under this category are not applicable today because we are not under a theocracy.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@musnoure The priestly laws dealing with the Levitical and Aaronic priesthoods were representative of the future and true High Priest Jesus, who offered Himself as a sacrifice on the cross. Since Jesus fulfilled the priestly laws, they are no longer necessary to be followed and are not now applicable.
The moral laws, on the other hand, are not abolished, because the moral laws are based upon the character of God. cont....
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@musnoure Since God's holy character does not change, the moral laws do not change either. Therefore, the moral laws are still in effect.
In the New Testament we do not see a reestablishment of the civil or priestly laws. But we do see a reestablishment of the moral law. This is why we see New Testament condemnation of homosexuality as a sin but not with the associated death penalty.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams Jesus did not come to destroy the Old Testament and we all should agree on that.
Did Jesus allow eating pork and drinking wine or not?
musnoure 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams The complication lies in the Trinity. We know there is no clear cut answer for Who is God in Christianity, don't give me the 3 in 1! Why He does not make it so clear and easy for people so they can worship him? A lot of Christians worship Jesus or worship God through Jesus which in this case does not make him as God.
Is there a Yes/no answer for is God Jesus?
I don't think so!
musnoure 7 months ago
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@musnoure The muslims changed the direction of praying because the Jews joked and stirred Mohammad claiming if it wasn't for them, he wouldn't even know which direction to pray in. In anger and to spite them he faced the opposite direction.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams Since you're Christian. you should be able to understand the style of speech in the Bible.
“Then God said, “Let us make man in our image” [Genesis 1:26], a plurality in God?
There are many many Verses in the Bible where that style of speech is applied... Don't be confused!
musnoure 7 months ago
@musnoure Look up the word "man" in arabic. When God said man, he is refering to both man and woman. I am not confused.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams My native language is Arabic, I read the Quran in Arabic and English, so I know what I read and I know what does "man" mean in all contexts. Now, what Verse are you talking about and what is your question?
musnoure 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams Allow me to quote you: "This is what all Muslims do, it's pathetic, always having to defend their Koran.Why because, It so contradictory."
Now, I ask that you find one out right contradiction in the Holy Quran, a book revealed over a 23 year period. Secondly, nowhere in the Holy Quran does it say for believers to kiss the black stone, the Prophet did so out of emotion.
Lastly, the Holy Prophet (PBUH) was the Holy Quran, now name one teaching of the Prophet that was false.
Legend1One 7 months ago
@Legend1One One contradiction, oh please that's too easy. Lets start with the fact that all muslims claim the koran is in it's pure arabic form, every word correct and in arabic right.? Wrong....Look what the Shafi’i quoted on the above mentioned verses (16:103 and 41:44). The Shafi’i want to defend these verses but he is not able to ignore the facts which all Muslim scholars verify along with the companions and the legists such as ibn ’Abbas, Mujahid, ibn Jubayr, ’Akrama, and ’Ata. cont.....
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams LOL... In what way does (16:103 and 14:44) contradict or cancell each other? My friend, please get a Holy Quran and read it. You're funny... a complete riot... I haven't seen a stretch this far since Jakie Robinson tried to turn an infield single into a double.
Legend1One 7 months ago
@Legend1One Also included in this group is the Suyuti as well as other scholars like Dr. Muhammad Rajab who expressed his views in "Solidarity" (al-Tadamun) magazine (April, 1989 issue). In his book, "The Itqan" (part 2, pp. 108-119), the Suyuti lists 118 non-Arabic words recorded in the Qur’an. Ibn ’Abbas, himself (along with other great Companions) asserts that some Qur’anic words are Persian, Ethiopian and Nabatean (p. 105). Dr. Bayyumi also confirms the Suyuti’s opinions and views. cont.....
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@Legend1One It is obvious that this is a contradiction, especially since there are about 118 non-Arabic words—not just five or ten words. The simple explanation for this contradiction is that Muhammad himself did not know that the origin of the words he employed in the Qur’an were non-Arabic. He was not aware that some of them were Persian, Ethiopian, Berber, Turkish and Nabatean; thus, he claimed that the entire Qur’an was revealed in pure Arabic language.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams This is a riot, people, as in fun-un-ny! My friend, your talking about "borrowed" words. Certainly there are borrowed words in the Holy Quran, but the word had been intergrated into the Arabic language.
Example: Do you drink alcohol?
Now, in the above example, the word "alcohol" is a borrowed word (from arabic), however, the sentence is pure English, because the word alcohol has been completely swallowed by the english language.
Like I said, you are truly a riot! Unbelievable!
Legend1One 7 months ago
@Legend1One Excuse me. You have been proven wrong clearly and your way of dealing with it is to cover it up with humour, unfortunatley you can't defend the fact that there are 118 words which are not original arabic words, therefore the Koran cannot be 100% from God. You fail and all english comes from early forms of language. Borrowed words? Now I am laughing, English borrows words not the other way round.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams What makes you think that the Arabic language, like English, is not a borrowed language from previous languaged. As you know, Arabic, along with Hebrew, Aramaic, and others is a branch of Cush languaged, many of which are now termed "dead languaged." The verse regarding it being an Arabic Quran has to do with it coming to an Arabic speaking people. Allah (God) is the author of all languages not just the Arabic langauge, so, once again, you've lost me. I'm dumfounded with you.
Legend1One 7 months ago
@Legend1One Another contradictioni in the chapter, "al Waqiha," the Qur’an talks about those who are destined to enter paradise. It states in verses 13 & 14 that the majority will be from the nations who came before Muhammad and the minority will be from peoples who believed in Muhammad. But in the same chapter (verses 39 & 40), it is said that the majority will be from those people who came before and after Muhammad also. This is a contradiction in the same chapter.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams I don't mean to be disrespectful, however, your reading comprehension is low. Verses 13 - 14 is a prophesy regarding the umma (Muslim community) in the hear after... the best muslims being the companions of the Prophet (PBUH) and the generation of muslim immediately following his advent being more faithful and deserving of the Hear after than those of us in later generation. Verses 39-40 says that their will be many from old (the Prophets time) and many of later (end time) will
Legend1One 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams ...basically, will have their reward. This is not a contradiction. Many from both generation (the Prophets up to the final generation) will be rewarded for what they've earned, although the bell curve will tilt towards those nearest the Prophets time (PBUH). Furthermore, the Holy Quran speaks about the companions of the Prophet as being the best generation of muslims, and in an Hadith it says that 3 generation after the Prophet the umma would begin to fall back (to disbelief).
Legend1One 7 months ago
@Legend1One The false hood of mohammad. The Satanic Verses, not from Christian or Jewish sources, but from early Muslim writings. Accounts of the Satanic Verses are given in a number of early sources, including: (1) Ibn Ishaq, (2) Wakidi, (3) Ibn Sa’d, (4) al-Tabari, (5) Ibn Abi Hatim, (6) Ibn al-Mundhir, (7) Ibn Mardauyah, (8) Musa ibn 'Uqba, and (9) Abu Ma'shar.[6] According to the great Muslim scholar Ibn Hajar, three chains of transmission (isnad) cont.....
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@Legend1One..... in these accounts "satisfy the conditions requisite for an authentic report."[7] Moreover, Sahih al-Bukhari, Islam’s most trusted source on the life of Muhammad, gives indirect confirmation of the event also. If a prophet call fall victim to black magic or satan, he is definately no prophet of GOD, no matter what spin you put on it. It was foretold in the Holy Bible that any prophet who claims false Gods, which mohammad did and false prophercies he cannot be a true prophet.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams "Satanic verses?" Don't swollow the nonsense that the enemies of Islam (The Prophet) propogated. This is were you go far astray. Now, to bring you back on point, you quoted 9 names, but NO verses of satanic orgin in the Holy Quran. So, are there any satanic verses that can be found in the pages of the Holy Quran? If so, Chapter and verse please.
Maybe you should just agree that their is no "satanic verse" anywhere in the Holy Quran. There may be some in the hearts of men, not HQ
Legend1One 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams Now, if you can't or don't provide proof to your aformentioned claims, that makes you a liar. Agreed? Keep in mind, all of your wittnesses must be found in The Holy Quran! (We're in court, so to speak, so, prove your case.) Provide Sura (Chapter) and verse please.
Legend1One 7 months ago
@Legend1One I have clearly stated the chapters and versus for the 56th Sura. So please re-read. I don't lie thank you. Also read Sura 53:19-23.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams Sura 56 has been clearly been answered. I just read sura 53:19-23, what's the contradiction here? Your reading comprehension is truly lacking. (S.O.S....Anyone who chooses to, please read Sura 53:19-23 in the Holy Quran and inform me of it's contradiction.)
This is no longer funny, it's sad.
Legend1One 7 months ago
@amanwithdreams I pray you study the life of Jesus Christ and learn the truth from the darkness you are following. There is no other saviour other than Jesus Christ. It's so obvious yet Muslims don't think it through. IF Mohammad was the final seal of prophets then why does Islam teach that Jesus Christ will be returning. That means Jesus will be the final seal and Mohammd is not, making all the claims about Mohammad as false. Very simple.
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
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@Legend1One I am a Christian. One of the other biggest problems is that Mohammad had many self serving revelations. Even Aisha commented on this as it was so obvious. The law for Muslims is to have only 4 wives, yet Mohammad claimed he had received a special law to allow him to have as many as he liked. At 54 years of age he married and had sex with a pre-pubescent girl. Explain to me how a man of GOD would do such a thing??
NO man of GOD would. Only a great deciever would.
Peace
amanwithdreams 7 months ago
Who cares which countries the Muslims suicide bombers came from, either way they came from following the religion of Islam. That is a fact, no matter what spin you put on it. Without the Sura's from the Koran which also promote violence, racism and jihad, suicide bombers wouldn't exist.
amanwithdreams 9 months ago
This Fadel guy pulls out personal experiences of his coptic christian and jewish egyptian friends as if it represents the majority. It is the majority that counts and stands for something. Just because you go to A Jewish watchmen for your yearly repairs, it doesn't mean that the majority of Jews in the middle east did not flee to Israel at it's birth because they did.
CREATIVE3 11 months ago
Muhammad is an antichrist, everything Walid and Nonie said are absolutely true. Fuck this fadel pigfucker.
particle58 11 months ago
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heavenseeker5 8 months ago
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@particle58 antichrist my ignorant friend, is found in the scripture being a Jew. Muhammad is an Arab...Try finding the error. No insult please, we know the truth can be annoying, opening your eyes to something that shows you, that all you did believe in wasn't true, thus rejecting it, is more easy than accepting it...Muhammad (PBUH) is the last messenger of God, how is it so hard to accept it ? give YOURSELF a chance and learn about it from honest and qualified people.
Salam.
heavenseeker5 8 months ago
Fat Guy was rude with walids name!!!
MegaTrueTalk 11 months ago
fadel applied al-taqyyja. Typical islamic deception(lies) Bravo Walid and Darwish
goldchrist1 11 months ago 2
@goldchrist1 Sorry to tell you that but Mr. Fadil FUCKED them both, Nice work Mr. Fadil FUCK those two pieces of shit til their asses bleed
samionita2008 9 months ago
@samionita2008 I have not seen any sex there?. But I saw some horse sex lately clip from Pakistan.
goldchrist1 9 months ago
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Please talk science and technology to relief humanity on pimitivity. And not trival issues of Religion
ipadibi 1 year ago
Please talk science and technology to relief humanity on pimitivity. And not trival issues of Religion!
ipadibi 1 year ago
Please talk science and technology to relief humanity on pimitivity.
ipadibi 1 year ago
i hard him first time he is so owsome,,,waoo Allah may blace on you,,
amirzubairmughal 1 year ago
Is this guy making and advertisement for halal kebabs? haha and why is he all over the place? he looks like a clown just needs one moneky there to make the show more interesting! muhamed monkey is dead sadly lol ;-)))
ainanor 1 year ago
@ainanor Can you send me a friend invitation? I'd like to be your friend, I like what you stand for and the halal kebabs. Yummy. ;-) :-D
BoAbkal 1 year ago
what kills me here is how these muslims don't see that spreading their religion is dangerous.....if you have freedom now and the muslims succede in out-numbering the infidels then Sharia will prevail....they will re-create the facist islamic government control that so many have tried to escape from for a better life in a free country....the key here is women...and muslim men know it.....islamic women need to wake up and take a look at Syria...Iran....Afghanistan...where the muslims are majority
preservwestculture 1 year ago
@preservwestculture What are you talking about? Syrian and Iranian women are very educated (look at the numbers of men and women enrolled in colleges there). Afghanistan is a war torn country and they are culturally a bit backwards, but that can change one day (if the war ends).
Islam is not the enemy, nor is Sharia. Islam is about protecting life and property and dignity and freedom to practice religion (not freedom to denigrate what people hold sacred).
amuslimguy 1 year ago
Repent fadel, or you will burn in hell. Accept that JESUS is the only GOD and Saviour, or you will burn forever in hell.
Allah is Satan.
ponchorhino 1 year ago
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Criminal JEWS are behind the terrorism attacks, only to blame the Muslims.
Watch: "911 Missing Links" "Dancing Israelis on 911" "protocol elder of Zion" "USS Liberty Dead in the Water"
jayezzo 1 year ago
how bout the moderates standing up against the radical Islam like the Widerstand in Germany and not blaming the West only for standing up against radical Islam??
INdiverCT 1 year ago
Go Walid Shoebat and Nonie Darwish! Great job!
theromashka1 1 year ago
@theromashka1 You sound like a mindless sports fan that irrationally cheers for "your team." Why not try to be objective and hear people out and make up your own mind? Why not research the matter honestly?
Remember, the "winner" is not the person who happens to have the truth, it's the person who ENDS UP WITH the truth, no matter what it is.
May God guide all sincere people to His truth.
amuslimguy 1 year ago
@amuslimguy I think that most rational thing is to chose the group that supports civilized behavior and not backwardness and violence. Walid Shoebat and Nonie Darwish are my heros. They both are ex muslims and support the only genuine democracy in the Middle East. People like that get tremendous respect from me simply because they were smart enough to realize things they stand for today!
theromashka1 1 year ago
@theromashka1 Did anything that Fadel said contravene 'civilized behavior' and support 'backwardness and violence?' I think not.
Democracy is great for the people living within it, but it can mean absolutely nothing to other nations if it's an oppressive nation that brutally occupies it's neighbor. Why should this excuse its behavior? A hypothetical monarchy that deals justly with people is better than a brutal democracy.
Btw, choose your heroes more wisely. Walid has been exposed as a fake.
amuslimguy 1 year ago
@amuslimguy Not at all, Fadel is a very smart man. You said that i blindly cheer for my group and I explained you why I support these people. I don't know and I don't care what means nothing to whom. Democracy is the only way to go. Other ways are simply barbaric and against peoples basic human rights.
And regarding brutal occupation you are absolutely right! Muslims should stop occupying 98% of the Middle East and learn to live peacefully with others!
theromashka1 1 year ago
@theromashka1 Look, you're confused here. This debate is about whether Islam's normative teachings promote violence with other people. Democracy has to do with how a government rules its people. This has nothing to do with whether this democracy is peaceful with OTHER people or if it's unjustly violent.
This is why I scratch my head at comments like yours, which we often hear in defense of Israel. When people condemn its brutality and violence towards OTHERS, it responds that it's a democracy!
amuslimguy 1 year ago
@amuslimguy Israeli brutality? There is no such thing. There is Islamic brutality and aggression and Israeli retaliation. Islamic aggression is what made Israeli army on of the top armies in the world. Constant real time training. And yes, Israel is the only genuine democracy in the Middle East, that is why our country and society have better moral values then our violent and backward neighbors.
theromashka1 1 year ago
@theromashka1 Okay, well I didn't realize you were Israeli. Then I don't expect you to see anyone else's perspective.
Islam protected the rights of Jews in Palestine for centuries, and they lived side by side in Muslim Spain. The only "agression" you see is in response to the establishment of a state where the native inhabitants were expelled at gunpoint, with many of the refugees concentrated in camps with military checkpoints. You've got things backwards. But I'm not going to debate history.
amuslimguy 1 year ago
@amuslimguy ......it's Jewish land now...get over yourself......it was given to the Jews by the civilized world.....because the Jews have a history there.......so accept reality you idiot......it is what it is.......they are there...the Jews were peaceful people of the book according to the history I have studied....the reason they are hated by muslims is because the barbaric so-called prophet Mohammed could not persuade them awayfrom their religion.....into his....so he killed them....pedophile
preservwestculture 1 year ago
@preservwestculture Explain the 6,000,000 Million Jews that were killed by your Christian Nazi Party. I wonder what happened there?
Also ever read the Old Testament lately about the Peacful Jews. Ever read about the Stern Gang? The Ergun Gang? The King David Bombing? The Levon affair? The USS Liberty?
I dont know which history you are reading but I you need to pull your head out of your ASS.
szuhbi 1 year ago
@preservwestculture what history did you read? That's false. The Prophet respected their right to remain Jews and practice their religion and would defend their right. The tribes in Medina that committed treason met their fate according to their own justice system. Otherwise, Jews have been allowed to live peacefully within Muslim lands for centuries, and that will continue. The oppressive expansionist state of Israel is an exception. And the "civilized world" is really the militarized world.
amuslimguy 1 year ago
@theromashka1 retaliation hitting women and children who throw stones nuking them you fucking zionist bastards heil hitler u deserve him
nidal07796 1 year ago
@nidal07796 Nuking terrorist who shoots rockets on Israeli civilians while hiding among their own. That is a typical barbaric islamic behavior. In every normal society real men protect women and children first. In case of Islamist from gaza they are hiding among civilians. Brave soldiers of allah...LOL!
theromashka1 1 year ago
@theromashka1 typical you stole their land of them and push them up all the way to gaza and fucking carpet bomb them beacuse of one or two individuals who throw khatousha rockets that are home made and dont even kill anyone dont be foolish your ignorant proparly zionist or american stupid and uneducated every intifada more kids and women are killed the un headquarters in gaza the secondry school or where the barbaric islamits hiding there or the gaza flotilla they were barbaric islamists too.
nidal07796 1 year ago
@nidal07796 They wish that it would be their land. Their land is in 22 arabic countries and 57 islamic countries!
Brave Israeli soldiers risking their own lives to protect so called civilians who do everything to assist the terrorists including sending their own children to be a human shield. Humans don't do that. Humans protect their kids from harm. Savages send their kids to death with suicide belts!
theromashka1 1 year ago
@theromashka1 ....these idiots have managed to take the last thing muslim women have awayfrom them....the God-given innate desire to love and protect their children....it's a sick sick sick society......and I have enough faith to know that they will not succede for much longer....evil never does......islam is going down....
preservwestculture 1 year ago
@preservwestculture I agree! Thanks for your comment! And by the way, Geert Wilders is my hero!
theromashka1 1 year ago
@theromashka1
Spoken like a true Child of Incest and a Lover of Sodomy.
yeah it is obvious you would take a fraud for a Hero right? What a nice role model to have, maybe you should recommend Ron Jeremy for your Mother she might enjoy his member like the Aholah and Aholibah of the Old Testament that enjoyed the Members of Donkies and Discharge of Horses. This is what Geert Wilders Believes in so since he is your hero you should follow his ways, right? or would that be too much?
szuhbi 1 year ago
@szuhbi I am not muslim and my parents are not related! Children of incest are majority of muslim community of the Middle East because majority of marriages in M.E are first and second cousin marriage! Sodomy?! What is that ?! You mean Islamic pedophilia or Islamic bestiality? Even your prophet loved to rape little girls and had many war captives that he used for sex. If that is your man of god I know exactly who you are!
theromashka1 1 year ago
@theromashka1 No they dont need to be related, no one ever said you are the seed of your father, I was thinking more like your mother slept with her brother as Per the BIBLE but its your poor daddy who does not know. You do not know what Sodomy is? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA .... Ask your daddy he will tell you
you uneducated cum bucket.
szuhbi 1 year ago
@szuhbi What a sick fantasy you have got, filthy goat banger! Go bang your farm animals, abuse your women and don't forget to pray five times!
theromashka1 1 year ago
@theromashka1
at least muslim countries nor the quran has a law that allows people to have sex with animals! if you did not now england is the only western country wich has prohibited zophilia or beastiality! and some states in the us has prohibited it and some haven´t so your actually insulting yourself more with goat banging stuff even doe i am aware their are some crasy people calling themselves muslims that might be guilty of such filthy axt
courtesy55 1 year ago
@courtesy55 Making laws against bestiality doesn't prevent the muslims to practice bestiality on daily basis. By the way western countries have laws against pedophilia which muslims practice freely in their countries. We know that pedophilia is amoral as many other things that muslims practice. That is why our morals are superior to the one's practiced in Islamic world!
theromashka1 1 year ago
@theromashka1
yeah but i said i know that their are some muslims whom does these immoral actions or people that call themselves muslims but their actions would not be considered muslim by the majority of muslim community, & the same way making laws against beastiality or pedophilia have not stoped western people from commiting acts of beastiality or pedophilia neither, growing up in western countries i have seen many older men offering to buy alcoholic and drugs to youngsters in return for xxx
courtesy55 1 year ago
@theromashka1
i would tell you this i know for a fact that most western people or at least a lot of them if you were to show these acts they would consider them kind of kinky,odd or bad!but you know most muslims consider acts of beastiality or pedophilia odd to & crasy just like you!the problem is some western people wants it to look like okay they all love this but we on the other hand condemn it while in reality most muslims don´t care just as long as their family stay away from the actions!
courtesy55 1 year ago
@theromashka1 You are one dumb rat no jokes your not even worthy of being classed as a human being, read the Qur'an stop basing the actions of some deranges so called 'Muslims' who do do some dirty acts but do not base thier actions on Islam read the Qur'an or shut up you ugly hater.
edlgotbanged 1 year ago
@theromashka1 Oh so you admit you are not the son of your father.. that's applying the Bible to the letter. hey it is not my fantasy it is your bibles teachings ok incest child.
szuhbi 1 year ago
@szuhbi Where did I admit that, you silly camel jockey?! To send you some glasses for better reading comprehension!?
theromashka1 1 year ago
@theromashka1 well you did not say you are not? did you now? I dont see it there? Having a sick fantasy does not mean it did not occur.
szuhbi 1 year ago
@preservwestculture who is going to take down islam? your going to take Islam down with what? your comments on youtube will take down Islam? or with the useless american army that cannot even beat the Taliban is going to take down Islam? With the suffering economies of the west? you talk a lot of shit I noticed if you want me comments in a place like this it pays to watch what you say.or you will make a fool of yourself. But it is too late now
szuhbi 1 year ago
@theromashka1 brave israelli soilders killing kids and women your nation needs hitler again anyway the europeans didnt want you so they gave your problem to the arab they know what decieving shit your capable off .all i say your nation reminds me of the nazis i guess history repeats its self therfore i come to a conclusion heil hitler may he come back and burn all your souls
nidal07796 1 year ago
Islam is threat to the West. Left wing hypocrites in Oxford don't speak for the rest of the world!
theromashka1 1 year ago
arabs are more humans than the westerns but islam made them go somewhere else.by the way arabs are much more intelligents than you and us but again islam extremism and stand still doctrin is keeping them behind now
sandmansea 1 year ago
@sandmansea no, they are misunderstanding what islam is and they are getting away from their religion. That is why!!
SuperMaryam16 1 year ago
this is not debate
this is an idiot guy that speak shit
Where is Nonie Darwish and Walid Shoebat
TheUria24 1 year ago
with islam? the islam in sivas against alevit, the islam in kurdistan, in somalia, in iran in irak the sunni against the shia and so one.
johannsobieski 1 year ago
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talking with baron münchhasen!!!
johannsobieski 1 year ago
talking with baron münchhasen!!!
johannsobieski 1 year ago
wow i love yhat video
umn90 1 year ago
Ephesians 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
For further study - Ephesians 2:1-10
What a truth - the message of our key verse in our reading today, verse 8. It is the grace of our wonderful Lord and Savior Jesus Christ - it is the grace by which we are saved. There was no work that I could do to be made pure, only the blood of Jesus Christ could cleanse me, and you, and make us whole.
Thank you Jesus.
spiritslain 1 year ago
even in oxford, in a supposed debate, we have denial and contortion, and this ridiculous muslim with his moh-bot cheerleaders, turns a place of serious study
into,(as usual with muslims, ie THE lowest common denominator :-) pantomime
the usual slippery babble, & half truth
laughable drivel
secula4eva 1 year ago
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@secula4eva
this man using taqiyya
hannahr77 1 year ago
WELL SAID BROTHER SULAYMAN PUT THAT ZIONIST VERMIN SHOEBAT WHERE HE BELONGS IN THE SEWERS ....
82shahin 1 year ago
'Islam does' not allow its followers to accept slavery'
BUT
it does allow them to enslave people and even allows them to have sex with slave women.
Thats hypocrisy at its best...
isarvesh 1 year ago
@isarvesh
O SHIT WHY DO ALL HYPOCRITES TALK FROM THEIR BACKSIDE....
WHY CANT THEY ADDMIT WHAT THEY DID TO 12 MILLION AFRICANS DURING THE DARK AGES AND STOP ACCUSING OTHERS OF BIENG HYPOCRITES
82shahin 1 year ago
@isarvesh
read the history of Islamic wars and how they treated the people and read the history of Christian wars and how they treated the people . and also read the life system in the past
if you really really want the truth you will get it
sorry my english is bad
sorry my english is bad
kuwaiti922 1 year ago
@kuwaiti922
read this read that! wir are passed the religion we have the humanism period now! we fought religion and left the dark ages and now because of muslims we talking about stone age!! this is where they live!
johannsobieski 1 year ago
Such hate is such weakness. I wish before someone follows a certain propaganda or belief they would search in its "unbiased" content, what it teaches in morals and values.
Its sad that this world rarely has any real peaceful ppl. Just because someone is born in something and uses it to act like a jerk and selectively uses its scriptures to justify there corrupt means to an end doesn't make them right, ethical, or what they claim: Jewish, Christian or Muslim.
nhwar 1 year ago
InshAllah, he will guide people through the right path
hamidalmuslim 1 year ago
firts the difference between a person without any belief and a person
who beliefs in Allah( the ONLY GOD)its like the difference between a
living and a cadaver. so you are not in the position to be saying anything
about a believer let alone a wholy profet
2nd yes theres authentic proof that he only got engaged with aisha while nine her father suggested told muhammed(pbuh) to marry his daughter when
she grew ripe for it. it was only when she was 14 that she moved in with him(allah knows best)
5jama 1 year ago
Man, you bring yourself down to the level of a shoe....! This walid's last name is shoe and Bat and the name suits him. He lies and fools naive Americas while they are not aware of facts. We have many other fools that are shoes to, poeple like Wafa Sultan, Brigitte Gabriel and some others.
MARZOOGI 1 year ago
@MARZOOGI Can you tell me what a man over 50 who gets aroused by and then has sex with the 9 year old is considered in islam?
sirjambo 1 year ago
@sirjambo Can you tell me why Joseph who was over 90 married Virgin MAry who was under 10 ? She was 12 when she gave birth to Jesus.
pakifighter 1 year ago
@pakifighter UNDER 10? That's funny and wrong, but nice try.
Where did you get that info from?
And more importantly why do you believe it to be true?
Men did NOT live to 90 2000+ years ago.
Now back to your beloved profit;
What do you call a man over 50 who gets aroused by and then has sex with a 9 year old girl?
I know it's very hard for muslims to answer but give it a try.
You could lie if you want to because muslims love to do that to protect their profit and "holy" quran.
sirjambo 1 year ago
@sirjambo Nice try. According to ur own bible, Adam lived to be 1000 yrs old, Noah 900 yrs old. According to ur own bible, Joseph was over 90, Mary not even 10. Care to xplain ? No. But I'll answer ur question, cuz you aint got no answer for me.
pakifighter 1 year ago
@pakifighter Why do you assume I am a christian?
HOW can you BELIEVE that ANYONE thousands of years ago lived for OVER 900 years?
Are you that gullible?
Unless you provide proof (bible and quran are not proof) I cannot believe these to be true.
sirjambo 1 year ago
@sirjambo You must be a loser then.
pakifighter 1 year ago
@pakifighter Wrong again pedo boy.
I am not a muslim so the loser is you.
Why are you so afraid to answer the question?
Does the truth about your beloved profit hurt?
sirjambo 1 year ago
@sirjambo the purpose of this marriage, it was purely for sociopolitical reason. The Prophet's main concern was the future of Islam. He was interested in strengthening the Muslims by all bonds. This also explains the reason why he married the daughter of `Umar, his Second Successor. It was by his marriage to Juwayriyyah that he gained the support for Islam of the whole clan of Bani Al-Mustaliq and their allied tribes.