@ThePrimordialAtom you doubt the story becos you are not a muslim. You believe jesus died for your sins so u have salvation because you are a christian. I am a muslim, i believe that, that stone was brought by adam so I am kissing it. If you like agree with it ir not, this is what we believe. Can you give me a proof some where else that justifies that Jesus (PBUH)was God- not from the bible. You believe it becos the bible says so. Just like I believe because my prophet (PBUH) said so.
@ThePrimordialAtom Also, Don't you think that most people would come to the conclusion that people who kiss kneel to a device of death are just practicing beliefs that are more like devil worshiping. Would you not agree?
but the problem was they did not worship Allah alone but they had other gods which they associated with Allah, they worship it not as creator or Lord but they used to think that these gods were intermediates between them and Allah.“And if you (O Muhammad) ask them: ‘Who has created the heavens and the earth,’ they will certainly say: ‘Allaah[Luqmaan 31:25]
your argument has no ground .
keep repeating it only proves that you lost the argument and can not defend your belief
it was sent from heaven to prophet Abraham !!so you think it is ok for you to kiss the cross but it is not ok for prophet Muhmmad to kiss part of the heaven (black stone ).
Stop being so fatuous.
the black stone was sent to prophet Abraham and he built the kabba with his son Ishmael .
Arabs were some traces of Abraham religion when Muhammad(pbuh) was appointed as prophet...but the problem was they did not worship Allah alone
@ThePrimordialAtom We already gave you answers, take it or leave it. But You seem to be stuck and don't know how to get out from answering our only simple question. So you hang on desperately to your weak claim. I will not agree to anything you say until you answer WHY do you Kiss, kneel down to, and worship a torture device used to kill people?
Your comment was so inane I didn't think it necessay to respond - if you'd watched this video, you'd have your answer.
here is what you wrote :
Should I bow down to a cross I have no problem doing it if I wished and if I wanted to kiss a cross then I also would have no problem doing it and other things.
so you have no problem bowing down to the tool which your man god was hanged naked on it but you have a problem with the prophet kissing the black stone which i said before
@ThePrimordialAtom Well we didn't get a single answer from you about why do you kiss, kneel down to, and worship a torture device used to kill people? At least the Black Stone was directly from Heaven so it deserves to be kissed.
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
Say: O disbelievers! I worship not that which ye worship; Nor worship ye that which I worship. And I shall not worship that which ye worship. Nor will ye worship that which I worship. Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.
They were not opinions they were answers to your questions, and valid ones too. I don't blame IslamResponses being frustrated with you because you're simply a block head Moron.
to kiss it but even when i wrote Amar s hadith when she said:"No doubt, I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit anyone nor harm anyone. Had I not seen Allah's Apostle kissing you I would not have kissed you."
which shows the prophet did not commanded us to kiss it but you keep repeating the same argument without being able to address my question !
indeed some people are truly hopeless, as the Quran says, they are dumb, deaf, and blind.
u keep repeating the same argument .either you are slow or you need a medical glasses to read.
i said
the black stone was sent to prophet Ibrahim from heaven. the prophet kissed it because of that
if a soldier or some other person returns to his homeland after a long time so he kisses the soil of his land . Its his love, his affection for his homeland and nothing more. For itself soil is nothing, same way Black Stone for itself is nothing.
whats pagan is kneel and kissing a cross or a statue or picture of Mary and if you go historically of how the bible was written , you will discover with evidence that the bible was written to combine between paganism and Christianity to satisfy the roman emperor. on the other hand,
Prophet Muhamamd kissed part of the heaven however you kiss the tool which your man god was tortured and killed on at the same time you claim it has a healing power and help in exorcism
i visited the kabba many times and i never kissed the stone because as i said before the prophet did not commanded us to do so ,he kissed because it was sent from heaven to prophet Ibrahim thats it ,repeating the same argument without answering on my question only shows you have no argument to defend .
Good , Jesus never instructed his followers to kneel down to the cross or use it to heal Christians. my question still stands .
why do you worship or lets say kneel down to the tool which Jesus has been tortured and crucified on ?! you r supposed to hate the cross not glorifying it ?!
at least we do not kneel down to the black stone nor prostrate ourselves to it but you did kneel down to the cross and kiss it thinking it has a magical healing power etc .
hahahah.
do not come up with argument can be fired back to your face .
has already responded on your copy past argument but you keep repeating it because you are not looking for the truth at the same time you have not answered on my previsions question .
why do you kiss the cross and even many priests use it to get the devils out of some Christians and the claim it has a super power ?!
the prophet did not instruct us to kiss the black stone as you claimed and this has been proven in Amar hadith
We can see that Umar was even acknowledging that this stone had no power to do anything. So if the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) truly worshipped this stone then he should have at least informed his companions that this stone was an idol and that they should pray to it. However, we see that the companions did not do such a thing because the Prophet (peace be upon him) did not promote or believe in such a concept.
Had I not seen the Prophet touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you.' Then he kissed it and said, 'There is no reason for us to do Ramal (in Tawaf) except that we wanted to show off before the pagans, and now Allah has destroyed them.' 'Umar added, '(Nevertheless), the Prophet did that and we do not want to leave it (i.e. Ramal).'
Did you check the 2 video responses i have posted on this video ?! i think not thats why you repeat the same argument . Western Scientists have confirmed that the black stone, which resides near the Kaaba in the Holy City of Mecca, is an outside meteorite object.
and we believe that this stone was sent down to prophet Ibrahim when he was building the Kabba with his son .
Amar bin Al katab said:
'By Allah! I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit nor harm.
I'm wondering why we never hear a whole sentence from Sam Shamoun once in this video, yet the message seems to be that this gentleman only tells lies. Does what this man say scare you? Why not link to what he says, rather than use rapid cut-edits to distort his words?
Let's hear both sides of the story before making up our minds...
@stronzo5785 For me, Sham Shame Shamoo is a vulgar disrespectful pig. He doesn't deserve to be heard because he's exposed for the lies he told and his dark hatred in his heart. If you want to hear him out, by all means look up his videos and watch for yourself.
Before you answer, the stone was sent by GOD Almighty Himself to descend to earth for the very purpose of determining the location of the Kaaba, then the Prophet was reasonable and within his rights to have special feelings for this Heavenly object. And again, he never worshiped it. He just respected the fact that it was a very special piece of stone with much impact on history and the entire practice of Islam. and that hadith makes it clear. If we lost it, we couldn't care less.
@ThePrimordialAtom BUKHARI: Volume 2, Book 26, Number 667 - Volume 2, Book 26, Number 675 - and MUSLIM:Book 007, Number 2914 clearly says that the stone is just a stone and does no harm or good, word for word. Now show me where did Muhammad teaches Muslim to worship the stone? Do we make icons of the stone like you did with the cross? And show me exactly where Muhammad instructed Muslim to kiss the stone like your false claim?
@ThePrimordialAtom the blackstone was thre before paganism. We believe that it was given to Adam when coming down to earth. Why do we kiss the kaaba? You kiss your mom and siblings because you cherish them. This stone was also given to our beloved father Adam(PBUHim) and our beloved mother Hawa(eve) (PBUHer) We are kissing it because that was he stone they were given. That was somehing they had held with their hands. We love them.
Can you or mr sam shamoun explain to us why do you kiss the cross the tool was used to crucify your man god naked on!! shouldn't you hate it instead of kissing it and bowing down to it?! we get sick from your false allegations against Islam , do not you have a job to live from ?!
brother Yahya:
I have posted a video response on this video from my other account (salm752) its title:
go wacth mirracles of Kaaba
lailazahir1111 6 days ago
God bless you brother , excellent vidoe
ayamen1 9 months ago
@ayamen1
Thank you very much.
YahyaSnow 9 months ago
@ThePrimordialAtom you doubt the story becos you are not a muslim. You believe jesus died for your sins so u have salvation because you are a christian. I am a muslim, i believe that, that stone was brought by adam so I am kissing it. If you like agree with it ir not, this is what we believe. Can you give me a proof some where else that justifies that Jesus (PBUH)was God- not from the bible. You believe it becos the bible says so. Just like I believe because my prophet (PBUH) said so.
SuperMaryam16 9 months ago
HE is not a schollar, he is a Duat like you :)
FATAL12SKILLZ 9 months ago
@ThePrimordialAtom Also, Don't you think that most people would come to the conclusion that people who kiss kneel to a device of death are just practicing beliefs that are more like devil worshiping. Would you not agree?
A2Neji 9 months ago
@ThePrimordialAtom
but the problem was they did not worship Allah alone but they had other gods which they associated with Allah, they worship it not as creator or Lord but they used to think that these gods were intermediates between them and Allah.“And if you (O Muhammad) ask them: ‘Who has created the heavens and the earth,’ they will certainly say: ‘Allaah[Luqmaan 31:25]
your argument has no ground .
keep repeating it only proves that you lost the argument and can not defend your belief
salam752 9 months ago 12
@salam752 what the hell r u talkin about go and study islam watch the deen show.
lailazahir1111 6 days ago
@ThePrimordialAtom
it was sent from heaven to prophet Abraham !!so you think it is ok for you to kiss the cross but it is not ok for prophet Muhmmad to kiss part of the heaven (black stone ).
Stop being so fatuous.
the black stone was sent to prophet Abraham and he built the kabba with his son Ishmael .
Arabs were some traces of Abraham religion when Muhammad(pbuh) was appointed as prophet...but the problem was they did not worship Allah alone
salam752 9 months ago 9
@ThePrimordialAtom We already gave you answers, take it or leave it. But You seem to be stuck and don't know how to get out from answering our only simple question. So you hang on desperately to your weak claim. I will not agree to anything you say until you answer WHY do you Kiss, kneel down to, and worship a torture device used to kill people?
A2Neji 9 months ago
@ThePrimordialAtom
Your comment was so inane I didn't think it necessay to respond - if you'd watched this video, you'd have your answer.
here is what you wrote :
Should I bow down to a cross I have no problem doing it if I wished and if I wanted to kiss a cross then I also would have no problem doing it and other things.
so you have no problem bowing down to the tool which your man god was hanged naked on it but you have a problem with the prophet kissing the black stone which i said before
salam752 9 months ago 4
@ThePrimordialAtom Well we didn't get a single answer from you about why do you kiss, kneel down to, and worship a torture device used to kill people? At least the Black Stone was directly from Heaven so it deserves to be kissed.
A2Neji 9 months ago
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Al-Kafiroon
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
Say: O disbelievers! I worship not that which ye worship; Nor worship ye that which I worship. And I shall not worship that which ye worship. Nor will ye worship that which I worship. Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.
ooJesusIsMuslimoo 9 months ago 4
@ThePrimordialAtom The Black Stone was sent before Paganism!
They were not opinions they were answers to your questions, and valid ones too. I don't blame IslamResponses being frustrated with you because you're simply a block head Moron.
A2Neji 9 months ago
@ThePrimordialAtom You have a serious problem listening to others. There are two brothers here who answered your question already. Open your eyes!
A2Neji 9 months ago
@ThePrimordialAtom
to kiss it but even when i wrote Amar s hadith when she said:"No doubt, I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit anyone nor harm anyone. Had I not seen Allah's Apostle kissing you I would not have kissed you."
which shows the prophet did not commanded us to kiss it but you keep repeating the same argument without being able to address my question !
indeed some people are truly hopeless, as the Quran says, they are dumb, deaf, and blind.
IslamResponses 9 months ago
@ThePrimordialAtom
u keep repeating the same argument .either you are slow or you need a medical glasses to read.
i said
the black stone was sent to prophet Ibrahim from heaven. the prophet kissed it because of that
if a soldier or some other person returns to his homeland after a long time so he kisses the soil of his land . Its his love, his affection for his homeland and nothing more. For itself soil is nothing, same way Black Stone for itself is nothing.
you claimed the prophet ordered us
IslamResponses 9 months ago
@ThePrimordialAtom
Just admit, that your priests who claim the cross has a healing power are punch of lairs .in fact :
it was proven several times on tv ,they are lairs ,thats why church has no respect or rule any more in north American society and Europe .
my question still stands :
why do you kneel down to the tool which your man god was tortured on ?you r supposed to hate it
as brother Yahya said :
arguing with the foolish ,they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience .
IslamResponses 9 months ago
@ThePrimordialAtom
whats pagan is kneel and kissing a cross or a statue or picture of Mary and if you go historically of how the bible was written , you will discover with evidence that the bible was written to combine between paganism and Christianity to satisfy the roman emperor. on the other hand,
Prophet Muhamamd kissed part of the heaven however you kiss the tool which your man god was tortured and killed on at the same time you claim it has a healing power and help in exorcism
IslamResponses 9 months ago
sam is a pig.
gobuddyboy 9 months ago
@ThePrimordialAtom
i visited the kabba many times and i never kissed the stone because as i said before the prophet did not commanded us to do so ,he kissed because it was sent from heaven to prophet Ibrahim thats it ,repeating the same argument without answering on my question only shows you have no argument to defend .
again :
why do you kiss and bow down to the cross ?!
IslamResponses 9 months ago
@ThePrimordialAtom
Good , Jesus never instructed his followers to kneel down to the cross or use it to heal Christians. my question still stands .
why do you worship or lets say kneel down to the tool which Jesus has been tortured and crucified on ?! you r supposed to hate the cross not glorifying it ?!
IslamResponses 9 months ago
@ThePrimordialAtom
at least we do not kneel down to the black stone nor prostrate ourselves to it but you did kneel down to the cross and kiss it thinking it has a magical healing power etc .
hahahah.
do not come up with argument can be fired back to your face .
IslamResponses 9 months ago
@ThePrimordialAtom
i see other brother his user name ( La19000 )
has already responded on your copy past argument but you keep repeating it because you are not looking for the truth at the same time you have not answered on my previsions question .
why do you kiss the cross and even many priests use it to get the devils out of some Christians and the claim it has a super power ?!
the prophet did not instruct us to kiss the black stone as you claimed and this has been proven in Amar hadith
IslamResponses 9 months ago
Brother Yahaya:
Where is the other video?! i have posted 2 videos the other one title is :
(The black stone is a Meteorite sent from space.)
did you receive it or not ?
IslamResponses 9 months ago
@IslamResponses
YT only showed 1 vid response. Please try it again as I only saw one and approved it immediately. JazakAllah
YahyaSnow 9 months ago
We can see that Umar was even acknowledging that this stone had no power to do anything. So if the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) truly worshipped this stone then he should have at least informed his companions that this stone was an idol and that they should pray to it. However, we see that the companions did not do such a thing because the Prophet (peace be upon him) did not promote or believe in such a concept.
IslamResponses 9 months ago
@ThePrimordialAtom
Had I not seen the Prophet touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you.' Then he kissed it and said, 'There is no reason for us to do Ramal (in Tawaf) except that we wanted to show off before the pagans, and now Allah has destroyed them.' 'Umar added, '(Nevertheless), the Prophet did that and we do not want to leave it (i.e. Ramal).'
IslamResponses 9 months ago
@ThePrimordialAtom
Did you check the 2 video responses i have posted on this video ?! i think not thats why you repeat the same argument . Western Scientists have confirmed that the black stone, which resides near the Kaaba in the Holy City of Mecca, is an outside meteorite object.
and we believe that this stone was sent down to prophet Ibrahim when he was building the Kabba with his son .
Amar bin Al katab said:
'By Allah! I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit nor harm.
IslamResponses 9 months ago
I'm wondering why we never hear a whole sentence from Sam Shamoun once in this video, yet the message seems to be that this gentleman only tells lies. Does what this man say scare you? Why not link to what he says, rather than use rapid cut-edits to distort his words?
Let's hear both sides of the story before making up our minds...
stronzo5785 9 months ago
@stronzo5785 For me, Sham Shame Shamoo is a vulgar disrespectful pig. He doesn't deserve to be heard because he's exposed for the lies he told and his dark hatred in his heart. If you want to hear him out, by all means look up his videos and watch for yourself.
A2Neji 9 months ago
Before you answer, the stone was sent by GOD Almighty Himself to descend to earth for the very purpose of determining the location of the Kaaba, then the Prophet was reasonable and within his rights to have special feelings for this Heavenly object. And again, he never worshiped it. He just respected the fact that it was a very special piece of stone with much impact on history and the entire practice of Islam. and that hadith makes it clear. If we lost it, we couldn't care less.
La19000 9 months ago
@ThePrimordialAtom BUKHARI: Volume 2, Book 26, Number 667 - Volume 2, Book 26, Number 675 - and MUSLIM:Book 007, Number 2914 clearly says that the stone is just a stone and does no harm or good, word for word. Now show me where did Muhammad teaches Muslim to worship the stone? Do we make icons of the stone like you did with the cross? And show me exactly where Muhammad instructed Muslim to kiss the stone like your false claim?
La19000 9 months ago
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La19000 9 months ago
The dude's middle name is sham.
La19000 9 months ago
Sorry the other video brother , i made it 3 years ago ,it contains islamic song .its title:
(The black stone and sheep's worshipers dirty mentality)
i have posted as well as a video response to your video .
salam752 9 months ago
@ThePrimordialAtom the blackstone was thre before paganism. We believe that it was given to Adam when coming down to earth. Why do we kiss the kaaba? You kiss your mom and siblings because you cherish them. This stone was also given to our beloved father Adam(PBUHim) and our beloved mother Hawa(eve) (PBUHer) We are kissing it because that was he stone they were given. That was somehing they had held with their hands. We love them.
SuperMaryam16 9 months ago
@ThePrimordialAtom
Can you or mr sam shamoun explain to us why do you kiss the cross the tool was used to crucify your man god naked on!! shouldn't you hate it instead of kissing it and bowing down to it?! we get sick from your false allegations against Islam , do not you have a job to live from ?!
brother Yahya:
I have posted a video response on this video from my other account (salm752) its title:
The black stone is a Meteorite sent from space
please accept it and i am going to post another
IslamResponses 9 months ago 2
man sams a liar, no actually snow boy is a idiot who cuts and shoves things together for his own inflated ego trip
followerofjesus1984 9 months ago