Why the hell are you guys talking about what you thinknig fencing is?!?!?!?! in my mind id consider this spam >_> ....You all act like you KNOW fencing but you probably dont. =/
@Roarzambimaru Very true-thanks for bringing sanity back into this. Some of these guys are just preaching their own view on fencing as if its pure indisputable fact.
Fencing takes: Reflexes, ability to read other people and theyr tactics and to be able to use them against them, tactic eye, imagination, flexibility and some kind of bravery
your right fencing does take these things but dont forget the thing i love most about fencing it gives you your own finesse and style and helps you appreciate well.... you.
These fencers are Awesome! Fencing is a little bit about reflexes, but it is more of thinking it through. For instance if i were fencing you and i did 1 then you might do a or maybe b, generaly the better u r the more responses u have. The way to score a touch is to make your oponent make a mistake, or too setup an attack. Nice bout though!!
i have been fencing for almost a year now, and am already top of my advanced class, weird right? i think its because the others think they kno everything and don't pay any attention
Sorry, aber modernes Sport-Fechten (vor allem auf internationalem Wettkampf-Niveau) hat nichts mehr mit "echtem Fechten" zu tun! Ich bin auch begeisterter Sport-Fechter, aber froh darum, bei einem wirklichen Fechtmeister der alten Schule Lektionen zu bekommen. DAS ist Fechten!
in some ways, due to speed its far harder for people to do moves like Coules, Envelopments, binds, beats and other tricks like the point weapons do, which i think makes sabre less fun to fight as its less mental and the most physical of the weapons, depends on what you're good at.
lol guys kolobkov invented his own footwork style. so did eric boisse in france. thats why they fence so radically differently from others... that and the fact that kolobkov is a god
if you ask me a guy wasnt paying attention a bit enough thats why he was hit so easily no offence i mean they're still great fencers, im almost going to advance to metel and im nine
I've been fencing for three years, and I'd just like to say thanks for posting this video...and is it just me or does Kolbkov need to bring in his back leg a bit? I dunno, i could be wrong..they fenced a great bout. 5/5
This is true, bu the reason the formal style was invented was because it was a very good median that didn't put too much stress on your body. A too wide of a stance puts alot of strain on your knees.
NICE! I'm a fencer, though not professional and this video shows some useful moves! I'm glad someone posts real fencing on youtube, not foil or sabre. EPEE RULES!
what moves? I've only fenced for a year and really, the real skill here is using the basics the way these guys do. the most radical move here is either a fleche or the 1st parry
It's not really what they do, it's how they do it! You dont score by just making good moves, you score by using your reflexes and cunningness! These people know how to fence really good, by watching this you can learn a trick or two!
Fencing is actually about not using reflexes at all, rather to plan everything. If you have a reflex, your opponent can use it, so you have to constantly anticipate your opponents moves. An "easy" way to do this is to control them, to guide him in the right direction.
If you're interested in epee fencing tactics, you should check out the book written by 1980 Olympic gold medalist Johan Harmenberg, Fencing 2.0. It's a great read!
how can you plan something when there's an opponant? You can't possibly know what he's gonna do. You can study him if you want, but there's still no guarantee he'll do something expected. Ofcourse reflexes count, but other things are important too
well, you can "prepare" an action/movement, but there's no way in which your opponent will, necessarily, fall into your game. However, the point of fencing is to make your opponent fall into your game, thus your movements/attacks must be based on your own game, not on the opponent's. This means: taking for granted that the other guy will do this or that is a certain way to loose
Oh, good call. I imagine you are the authority on real dueling weapons, you must be an incredible fighter to be in such good health. How many actual duels did you say you fought? I bet if any one of these "boys" fought you in a duel they'd get killed wouldn't they? How sad that they don't kill each other in fencing anymore.
He's terrified but trying to be intimidating with aggressive posture rather than aggressive fencing. Just watch 4:40 and you'll see he's in the wrong mindset.
Verwijien came to my club a few weeks back i fenced him the score was 15-11 then later i found out who he was. lol i fenced him again later that day he killed me 15-3 o well
Oh my god, you are a loser. if you don't know how to use a french grip you deserve to go and, i don't know...do kendo or something. just shows how much of a loser that relies on a pistol grip you are.
He doesn't "rely" on it a-hole, he has never used anything else and probably doesn't know anyone decent with a french grip. At least he's asking and not just holding like a jackass with no control and claiming to be a "purist" fencer.
Try to hold it up like a broomstick near the end away from the bristles. Your thumb should be over, fingers under, and your index finger even (underneath) with the thumb. You can either hold it at the very end with the pommel in your palm (like a jackass since you get it knocked out of your hand every action) or you can keep the pommel around where you take your pulse on the wrist. You should be supinated (fingers up) and take actions just like with the pistol grip.
how come in fencing all they do it thrust and parry, there are no slashes really, i mean hasnt modern fencing evolved from 16th-18th century fencing. it seems like they should be slashing and thrusting instead of just thrusting
It's off of the traditional weapons. There never was a slashing and thrusting weapon out there although sabre would be the closest. Or at least not one which was used in fencing.
Foil and Epee are all about parrying and stop hitting, lunging, parry repost, fleshing, etc. Sabre you can also get a point by hitting with the sides of the blade, which is why there is slashing involved.
how can you call it gay and then ask for foil or sabre? Epee and Foil fencing aren't differents sports, they're different applications of fencing. PS All foil people do is charge and wave their foils around anyways.
at 1:41 they get all tangled up. hate it when that happens.
mooseface97 1 year ago
Why the hell are you guys talking about what you thinknig fencing is?!?!?!?! in my mind id consider this spam >_> ....You all act like you KNOW fencing but you probably dont. =/
Roarzambimaru 1 year ago
@Roarzambimaru Very true-thanks for bringing sanity back into this. Some of these guys are just preaching their own view on fencing as if its pure indisputable fact.
TheGatosarnoso 5 months ago
Most matches its usually the aggressor that takes the win
cv9113366 1 year ago
Makes me want to stand on the piste right now :-D.
Lord0fSteel 2 years ago
pero que pedo que tienen con el marcador y las luces
diego000gf 2 years ago
the camera sucks. fencing is awsome. i fence sabre though not epee. i used to fence foil
macbrosstudios 2 years ago
Fencing takes: Reflexes, ability to read other people and theyr tactics and to be able to use them against them, tactic eye, imagination, flexibility and some kind of bravery
(This is just what I think)
Rofllmaolol9 2 years ago
your right fencing does take these things but dont forget the thing i love most about fencing it gives you your own finesse and style and helps you appreciate well.... you.
can i get an amen.
GatameOne 2 years ago 2
Amen!
Needham90 2 years ago
+strength endurance and athleticism
dont forget those they are very important
screamosexual94 2 years ago
These fencers are Awesome! Fencing is a little bit about reflexes, but it is more of thinking it through. For instance if i were fencing you and i did 1 then you might do a or maybe b, generaly the better u r the more responses u have. The way to score a touch is to make your oponent make a mistake, or too setup an attack. Nice bout though!!
SoURManDuDE 2 years ago
wats that thing on their back?...
lttinidor 3 years ago
Their surnames. u can get ur surname and country on ur back e.g Azanrouzia-Kouzankov RUS
sktorm 2 years ago
i have been fencing for almost a year now, and am already top of my advanced class, weird right? i think its because the others think they kno everything and don't pay any attention
tyandrichie 3 years ago
So big-headed of you
pinquifrustri 2 years ago 2
Where the hell is the 3rd part?
ranzo60 3 years ago
Sorry, aber modernes Sport-Fechten (vor allem auf internationalem Wettkampf-Niveau) hat nichts mehr mit "echtem Fechten" zu tun! Ich bin auch begeisterter Sport-Fechter, aber froh darum, bei einem wirklichen Fechtmeister der alten Schule Lektionen zu bekommen. DAS ist Fechten!
leuchtfeuer1 3 years ago
Ja!
Sie sind richtig!
STOPm3323 3 years ago
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Such a boring match
hulppy 3 years ago
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sorry this is so stupid but i love my mom deeply if u dont post this over 10 videos ur mom will die in 4 hours
gleen76 3 years ago
Man I love Fencing
Nothing better than the thrill of being on the piste
STOPm3323 3 years ago 3
totally agree, what weapon do you fence with?
jumperboy1976 3 years ago
Epee competitively, but I'll fence all weapons.
You'll find them on my channel
STOPm3323 3 years ago
Ok, I will watch it! Thanks!
leuchtfeuer1 3 years ago
Epee. For about 15 years now.
I always wanted to learn/fence sabre (Säbel) also. But there's no club or school near my home town where I could learn this weapon...!
leuchtfeuer1 3 years ago
that's too bad, i've done 3 months of foil now and i switched to sabre, they both are a lot of fun, but sabre is a bit more intensive.
jumperboy1976 3 years ago
Yes, I also think so!
Many greetings from Germany and all the best for you and your further "fencing-career"! :o)
leuchtfeuer1 3 years ago
viele grusen zuruck aus belgien!! :)
jumperboy1976 3 years ago
well saber happens to have alot of footwork
redmonicus 2 years ago
Ive done epee now for 2-3 months now but sabre is interesting but doesnt seem to have enough "Sword Action", Is this true?
globetrottingchris 2 years ago
in some ways, due to speed its far harder for people to do moves like Coules, Envelopments, binds, beats and other tricks like the point weapons do, which i think makes sabre less fun to fight as its less mental and the most physical of the weapons, depends on what you're good at.
SMBainbridge 2 years ago
sabre is faster,but if both opponets are skilled enough,and know how to predict their opponets move,then the match could last quite a while.
Candelaria1993 2 years ago
i miss my fencing classes!
jonathanairbusboy 3 years ago
me too!
cmsahe 3 years ago
the third bout was a bit messy though. amazing fight they use very wide foot work, it must be hard to pull that off
Bloodlusta 3 years ago
lol guys kolobkov invented his own footwork style. so did eric boisse in france. thats why they fence so radically differently from others... that and the fact that kolobkov is a god
demosthenes760 3 years ago 2
2:22 i don't think kolobkov needs to work on footwork... :D
tobiasnixon 3 years ago
Пойдите Россия! Кто соглашается со мной?
SoldierMan750 3 years ago
if you ask me a guy wasnt paying attention a bit enough thats why he was hit so easily no offence i mean they're still great fencers, im almost going to advance to metel and im nine
mattfred1 3 years ago
don't you start with metal no matter what age you are???
Bloodlusta 3 years ago
I've been fencing for three years, and I'd just like to say thanks for posting this video...and is it just me or does Kolbkov need to bring in his back leg a bit? I dunno, i could be wrong..they fenced a great bout. 5/5
1234shuturmouth 3 years ago
each person fences their own style so, whatever
redmonicus 3 years ago 2
This is true, bu the reason the formal style was invented was because it was a very good median that didn't put too much stress on your body. A too wide of a stance puts alot of strain on your knees.
STOPm3323 3 years ago
OMG!!! Will i ever fence like them???????? are they gods?
great work with feet by Verwulen and great defence patience by Kolobkov!!!1
partetimouti 3 years ago
Kolobkov is really good...I loses him with the same score like as a Verwiljen...
alexano12 4 years ago
NICE! I'm a fencer, though not professional and this video shows some useful moves! I'm glad someone posts real fencing on youtube, not foil or sabre. EPEE RULES!
GuranAnka 4 years ago
what moves? I've only fenced for a year and really, the real skill here is using the basics the way these guys do. the most radical move here is either a fleche or the 1st parry
joeb094 4 years ago
It's not really what they do, it's how they do it! You dont score by just making good moves, you score by using your reflexes and cunningness! These people know how to fence really good, by watching this you can learn a trick or two!
GuranAnka 4 years ago
touche
joeb094 4 years ago
Fencing is actually about not using reflexes at all, rather to plan everything. If you have a reflex, your opponent can use it, so you have to constantly anticipate your opponents moves. An "easy" way to do this is to control them, to guide him in the right direction.
If you're interested in epee fencing tactics, you should check out the book written by 1980 Olympic gold medalist Johan Harmenberg, Fencing 2.0. It's a great read!
getsallad 3 years ago 6
how can you plan something when there's an opponant? You can't possibly know what he's gonna do. You can study him if you want, but there's still no guarantee he'll do something expected. Ofcourse reflexes count, but other things are important too
GuranAnka 3 years ago 3
well, you can "prepare" an action/movement, but there's no way in which your opponent will, necessarily, fall into your game. However, the point of fencing is to make your opponent fall into your game, thus your movements/attacks must be based on your own game, not on the opponent's. This means: taking for granted that the other guy will do this or that is a certain way to loose
neverenough1984 3 years ago
Im a foilist, you think it'd be a good read for me?
schokoprinz 3 years ago
Definitely, it's an interesting read no matter what. The tactics, however, are more easily applicable to epee.
getsallad 3 years ago
Where is part 3!?
SincereAgape 4 years ago
Kolobkov is the best fencinger in the world, this is true))))
jarik666 4 years ago
Marvelous touch at 2.45
geringasG 4 years ago
i agree
violindude415 4 years ago
3.13! that is a nice touch as well!
GuranAnka 4 years ago
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these boys would piss themselves with real duelling weapons. fenicng has turned into a sad affair. a magnificent art.
Lafaugere 4 years ago
Oh, good call. I imagine you are the authority on real dueling weapons, you must be an incredible fighter to be in such good health. How many actual duels did you say you fought? I bet if any one of these "boys" fought you in a duel they'd get killed wouldn't they? How sad that they don't kill each other in fencing anymore.
Good call. Very good call.
schiefthemighty 4 years ago 14
thumbs up bro.
ilovemypiano 4 years ago
You rock something fierce, dude!
santiano42 4 years ago
I'm confused because the post-production scoring is opposite of the scoring on the piste monitor...
poutouellet 4 years ago 2
the piste monitor is correct and the post production is flipped, kolobkov (rus) is fencing on our left
geringasG 4 years ago
Just quickly, what's with Verdmullen not bending his back leg? Is he injured or something? Thats a really basic error...wtf?
ironmanalasdair 4 years ago
He's terrified but trying to be intimidating with aggressive posture rather than aggressive fencing. Just watch 4:40 and you'll see he's in the wrong mindset.
SHAUNMcgarnagul 4 years ago
Verwijien came to my club a few weeks back i fenced him the score was 15-11 then later i found out who he was. lol i fenced him again later that day he killed me 15-3 o well
cfish523 4 years ago
can anyone tell mi how to use a french grip??? pls!!!
pixma321 4 years ago
Oh my god, you are a loser. if you don't know how to use a french grip you deserve to go and, i don't know...do kendo or something. just shows how much of a loser that relies on a pistol grip you are.
pballa92 4 years ago
just a matter of preference, i can use both and i prefer Belgian pistol.
schokoprinz 4 years ago
He doesn't "rely" on it a-hole, he has never used anything else and probably doesn't know anyone decent with a french grip. At least he's asking and not just holding like a jackass with no control and claiming to be a "purist" fencer.
SHAUNMcgarnagul 4 years ago
Try to hold it up like a broomstick near the end away from the bristles. Your thumb should be over, fingers under, and your index finger even (underneath) with the thumb. You can either hold it at the very end with the pommel in your palm (like a jackass since you get it knocked out of your hand every action) or you can keep the pommel around where you take your pulse on the wrist. You should be supinated (fingers up) and take actions just like with the pistol grip.
SHAUNMcgarnagul 4 years ago
go pavel! go pavel! go russia!
yeah, russia's the best!
LaRussichee 4 years ago
how come in fencing all they do it thrust and parry, there are no slashes really, i mean hasnt modern fencing evolved from 16th-18th century fencing. it seems like they should be slashing and thrusting instead of just thrusting
gotrice1598 4 years ago
It's off of the traditional weapons. There never was a slashing and thrusting weapon out there although sabre would be the closest. Or at least not one which was used in fencing.
yaria 4 years ago
Foil and Epee are all about parrying and stop hitting, lunging, parry repost, fleshing, etc. Sabre you can also get a point by hitting with the sides of the blade, which is why there is slashing involved.
sonny102 4 years ago 2
well, there is slashing in sabre fencing
durandcrosby 4 years ago
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fucking gay sport. please post foil or sabre
uberderre 4 years ago
how can you call it gay and then ask for foil or sabre? Epee and Foil fencing aren't differents sports, they're different applications of fencing. PS All foil people do is charge and wave their foils around anyways.
sonny102 4 years ago
So true about the Foil man. Epee is the shit.
Patrikkri 4 years ago
no freaking way, not with the new timing. besides, the verdmullen guy looks so awkward...
Gilgamesh417 4 years ago
this stinks
peacefulwarrior 4 years ago
true..but ive seen alotta guys with crummy footwork, but their smart and quick so it doesnt matter (especially if bladework is their forte).
nick888kcin 4 years ago
the dutch guy's footwork is all over the place
robp88 4 years ago
It is great!Where is the 3/3?
ghillsilent 4 years ago