Hey Chris, a year later and you still haven't found time for an apology ? Calling me a dope, moronic and unintelligent ? Nice.
Here's some more FACTS:
1.The execution hoods had NO openings for the mouth. Do you need proof ?
2.The 8 hoods in the Smithsonian were worn by 6 of the conspirators and 2 suspects (Celestino and Richter). Surratt and Mudd NEVER wore hoods during the trial. Surratt was only hooded at her execution.
i am related to marry surratt my last name is surratt and she had no part in the killing of the president and megawolfgang is right she just had a house and they stayed there to hide and the sad thing is she was the first woman hung my the government
I was wrong when I stated they wore black hoods. jeelliott is correct that they were white execution hoods and that this was the only time that Mary wore one. They did not bring them in hooded. The execution hoods were put on after tying up their bodies. I think you confused the headbags in the Smithsonian with the hoods used at the execution. The male conspirators wore headbags for a great deal of time in prison but these were not what they were killed in. Mary never had to wear a headbag.
I had read that the three men all testified that Mary was in no way involved in the plot to kill the president. She just owned the boarding house in which they stayed and planed. I guess the nation was just out for vengeance?? Now I am no scoluer of U.S history so maybe some one who knows better can clarify. Was she a victim of circumstance?
None of the executed wore black hoods at the execution. They were all canvas white hoods that covered the mouths too. No one wants to see a tongue poke out of a hood.
Mary Surratt NEVER wore a hood during her incarceration and was given preferential treatment during her confinement by Gen. Hartranft and his staff.
Please do this story justice and keep it as accurate as possible. There's no need to take creative license. The story sells itself.
Mary Surratt NEVER was hooded and unlike the men, was never even shackled the entire time she was in custody. Yes there are 8 hoods in the Smithsonian, none of which were worn by Mary. If you call Laurie Verge at Surratts Tavern, she will verify this. BTW your footage is GREAT !! Wonderful job. Jeeliott is correct in stating that Mary recieved special treatment from Hartranft and staff.
WRONG! Alexander Gardner photographed the hanging, all four of the conspirators were hooded and the hoods WERE NOT BLACK. I suggest you study some history, specifically an excellent book recently published titled "Lincoln's Assassins by James L. Swanson & Daniel R. Weinberg. I've spent years researching the history of Mary Surratt. She was also shackled in prison...
Yes, Mary was hooded on the scafold but not while in custody. I cant find any source that states she was shackled in prison. Can you site the source and page # ? I would like this cleared up. You've spent years researching Mary. Are you published ? If so would like to read your work.
However, I'm pretty sure Mary Surratt never wore the white hood that the director used as his inspiration for the film. When she was hanged, she had to where a black hood just like everyone else but, unlike the other conspirators, she was saved from being forced to wear the white padded hoods doing her incarceration. The pastors on the scaffold with her thanked the guards for their kind treatment of her, which I doubt he would have done had she been forced to wear it
felixddr is correct. Creative licenses were indeed taken for this 26-minute dramatization of such a huge historic tale. Expect Redford's script to also be filled with liberties. As Oliver Stone once said, "Filmmakers aren't journalists, we're dramatists." It was a great experience making "Mary."
Yes but Stone and others filmmakers on historical subjects often take far to much liberty by selling these dramatizations as facts. Like the old joke says, the 3 worst things to ever happen to John F. Kennedy were Jackie Kennedy, Lee Harvey Oswald and Oliver Stone.
I hear you. Stil, in defense of Stone, I know that book sales on the Kennedy assassination skyrocketed following his film; which is healthy. And while I respect his right to express his opinions through his dramatization on the Kennedy killing, I just as equally disagreed with him on plenty of his assertions. I don't think he is to blame, however, for John and Jane Q Public's decision to take his film as fact. Silly, lazy, and naive John and Jane Q are to blame for that.
Hey Chris, a year later and you still haven't found time for an apology ? Calling me a dope, moronic and unintelligent ? Nice.
Here's some more FACTS:
1.The execution hoods had NO openings for the mouth. Do you need proof ?
2.The 8 hoods in the Smithsonian were worn by 6 of the conspirators and 2 suspects (Celestino and Richter). Surratt and Mudd NEVER wore hoods during the trial. Surratt was only hooded at her execution.
GROW UP and take a sip of humility.
jeelliott 8 months ago
Funny thing is, my baas's ancestor was Abe!
Nunchukawaria 1 year ago
That's funny, I'm related to her to except I'm from the side that changed thier names to Surrett out of shame. Must be the french blood.
Nunchukawaria 1 year ago
i am related to marry surratt my last name is surratt and she had no part in the killing of the president and megawolfgang is right she just had a house and they stayed there to hide and the sad thing is she was the first woman hung my the government
bigman12394 1 year ago
I was wrong when I stated they wore black hoods. jeelliott is correct that they were white execution hoods and that this was the only time that Mary wore one. They did not bring them in hooded. The execution hoods were put on after tying up their bodies. I think you confused the headbags in the Smithsonian with the hoods used at the execution. The male conspirators wore headbags for a great deal of time in prison but these were not what they were killed in. Mary never had to wear a headbag.
felixddr 1 year ago
I had read that the three men all testified that Mary was in no way involved in the plot to kill the president. She just owned the boarding house in which they stayed and planed. I guess the nation was just out for vengeance?? Now I am no scoluer of U.S history so maybe some one who knows better can clarify. Was she a victim of circumstance?
MegaWolfgang 1 year ago
None of the executed wore black hoods at the execution. They were all canvas white hoods that covered the mouths too. No one wants to see a tongue poke out of a hood.
Mary Surratt NEVER wore a hood during her incarceration and was given preferential treatment during her confinement by Gen. Hartranft and his staff.
Please do this story justice and keep it as accurate as possible. There's no need to take creative license. The story sells itself.
jeelliott 2 years ago
Look closer, ya dope. No one is wearing a black hood.
And no, they didn't cover the mouths either.
There are no tongues poking out of hoods.
And she and the prisoners MOST certainly word these hoods during a time of their incarceration, as seen by the hoods they wore in the Smithsonian.
What other ridiculous, unintelligent and moronic comments ya got, wonder boy?
cking11111 2 years ago
Mary Surratt NEVER was hooded and unlike the men, was never even shackled the entire time she was in custody. Yes there are 8 hoods in the Smithsonian, none of which were worn by Mary. If you call Laurie Verge at Surratts Tavern, she will verify this. BTW your footage is GREAT !! Wonderful job. Jeeliott is correct in stating that Mary recieved special treatment from Hartranft and staff.
bassplaynme 2 years ago
WRONG! Alexander Gardner photographed the hanging, all four of the conspirators were hooded and the hoods WERE NOT BLACK. I suggest you study some history, specifically an excellent book recently published titled "Lincoln's Assassins by James L. Swanson & Daniel R. Weinberg. I've spent years researching the history of Mary Surratt. She was also shackled in prison...
swimmart 2 years ago
Yes, Mary was hooded on the scafold but not while in custody. I cant find any source that states she was shackled in prison. Can you site the source and page # ? I would like this cleared up. You've spent years researching Mary. Are you published ? If so would like to read your work.
abesdemise 2 years ago
Looks very interesting.
However, I'm pretty sure Mary Surratt never wore the white hood that the director used as his inspiration for the film. When she was hanged, she had to where a black hood just like everyone else but, unlike the other conspirators, she was saved from being forced to wear the white padded hoods doing her incarceration. The pastors on the scaffold with her thanked the guards for their kind treatment of her, which I doubt he would have done had she been forced to wear it
felixddr 2 years ago
felixddr is correct. Creative licenses were indeed taken for this 26-minute dramatization of such a huge historic tale. Expect Redford's script to also be filled with liberties. As Oliver Stone once said, "Filmmakers aren't journalists, we're dramatists." It was a great experience making "Mary."
watermark4 2 years ago
Yes but Stone and others filmmakers on historical subjects often take far to much liberty by selling these dramatizations as facts. Like the old joke says, the 3 worst things to ever happen to John F. Kennedy were Jackie Kennedy, Lee Harvey Oswald and Oliver Stone.
Still cant wait to see this film.
bassplaynme 2 years ago
I hear you. Stil, in defense of Stone, I know that book sales on the Kennedy assassination skyrocketed following his film; which is healthy. And while I respect his right to express his opinions through his dramatization on the Kennedy killing, I just as equally disagreed with him on plenty of his assertions. I don't think he is to blame, however, for John and Jane Q Public's decision to take his film as fact. Silly, lazy, and naive John and Jane Q are to blame for that.
cking11111 2 years ago
True, we all need to read more and come to our own conclusions. Myself, I believe that Oswald acted alone.
bassplaynme 2 years ago
Can't wait to see!
bastinibach 2 years ago
Huuzah!! Congrats on the Video 72nd NYVI and the RACW! You guys did a great job.
kritty50 2 years ago