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  • lol he didn't dance, he just defined the burden of evidence.

  • Trolololololololo

  • Atheism makes no positive assumptions therefore does not owe proof

  • atheism is the rejection of a claim, that there is a god. You can reject a claim by showing, that the evidence presented is wrong or there is no evidence. I understand, that some people dont understand this but this is really all there is to it. If someone cant grasp this basic principle there really is no real point in arguing any further. I think Matt did the right thing in hanging up on you. He tried reasoning, he tried analogies. What else could he try?

  • Some questions are just too utterly dumbfounding to muster an answer for, especially the ones posed by theists demanding proof that atheism is correct or demanding proof that there is no god. It's dumbfounding because the question is constructed in a way that defies logic and doesn't make sense. To start with, a-theism is an absence of belief, theism is the act of believing without any evidence for that belief. The burden of proof lies with the theist to explain/ defend his belief.

  • not the other way around. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and trying to tongue-tie some one who doesn't buy your belief with as asinine question does not substantiate anything. It just diverts the attention away from your inflated validations of a belief that simply never has been validated and cannot be validated.

  • If you think you know it all, this is youtube, the stage is all yours, show us some real proof- something beyond reason of a doubt that would convince the most skeptical juries from the Supreme Courts.

    

  • Rock on logic and reality.  The debates with religions are over. Time to pull your fingers out of your ears and wake up to the real world.

  • That poor Matt tried all he could to explain why your question wasn't sound, and now you post this video showing you haven't got it yet. "Jesus thinks you're a jerk" (Frank Zappa).

  • After watching the actual conversation that he had the only thing that I can say is

    FAIL!

  • You are right! You got him good! He chickened out!

  • Seriously everyone, stop making fun of this guy/trying to argue. It's very clear that he is very deluded in his way of thinking... Or genuinely mentally handicapped. I'm betting a little of both... Go ahead and believe in your fairy tales guy, I don't think your going to make any sort of difference in the world either way.

  • @jenius124 Oh! Or he is a troll, in which case... Bravo sir.

  • The confusion is understandable; when words are left out of a title so it'll fit, the meaning becomes ambiguous. The original title:

    (The) Atheist Experience (Has) destroyed (creationist) Shock of God ('s arguments, and with such) Style!

  • I saw the video, I gotta say. If you don't know what a metaphor is, if you don't know what hes talking about. then Im afraid the crappy school you assisted at as a kid has defeated you, go ask for a refund.

  • My Troll sense is tingling.

  • Warning' Warning' here be trolls.

  • Du høres norsk ut.... :( Så flaut.

  • If you are going to imitate shock you have to sound a bit gayer than that. Really! Go listen to his videos. The guy is flaaammming.

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  • troll, ultimate troll...

  • The atheist experience destroyed Shock of God? That is so true!

  • My head hurts!

  • "Destroyed" SoG style? Does that mean the alleged destruction happened in your imagination?

    I'll quote something actually accurate and correct i found somewhere to describe SoG's debating skills:

    "Shockofgod trying to debate is like a pigeon trying to play chess - he doesn't understand the rules, shits on the board then flaps away, knocking over the pieces and claiming victory"

  • @hellhammerz666 exellent analogy

  • Stupid^10

  • it wasnt supposed to prove atheism is correct. you people piss me off

  • Sunderb00t delusion

  • Fucking retard.

  • You are an idiot. Or...I don't know. A troll? For Sagan's sake I really can't tell. This is hard.

  • that voice remember me of a cartoon character but can quite remember who..

  • you just proved to the whole of the world that you are a brainwashed idiot. they smashed your idiotic challenge with ease.

  • i know this is off topic but what the fuck is wrong with your voice man

  • You sir are stupid. There is no evidence of Atheism because atheism is a lack of belief. There is one book that talks of a god. How ever there are 3 books that talk of the one ring, prove which is truer.

  • You don't get it, John! Matt (at Atheist Experience) explained things very clearly.

  • Awesome parody of shockofgod, Im surprised people can't hear the irony.

  • You, my friend are a retard!

  • God doesn't exist, I have no evidence that he does exist.... Checkmate

  • You sir are a FUCKING IDIOT !! He destroyed you . how can you be so fucking stupid . You're acting like atheism is a faith system . Atheism is not a faith system . Atheism is a result of there being no evidence to back up the existence of god . If there was evidence of god ( instead of a book that's been constantly re-written ) everybody would believe in gods existence and there would be no such thing as atheism . I've never seen such a retarded video .

  • Jesus Sunder, you're a fucking idiot.

  • in less then 60 seconds he destroyed you. plain. and. simple.

  • Matt destroyed you when you called in. If you are too stupid to understand that atheism does not produce a claim therefore does not require evidence because there is literally nothing to provide evidence for, than that's your problem. Its like asking someone who says the lochness monster doesn't exist to provide proof that it doesn't it exist. It's not possible. If something doesn't exist, there is no evidence that it doesn't exist. The burden of proof is on the person making a positive claim

  • shockofgod is obsessed with the cock, its not even funny but its dead ass true. he wears blush and lipstick i swear to his god i know

  • yeha, SoG proved God is real about aswell as the French Constable i think it was in the 1600s proved that Giant Squid ARENT REAL when they were presented a large section of a Fin of one from when it was attempted to be hauled onto a boat but the rope was too tough on it and ripped the fin off cus the squid was too heavy and the constables answer was "its impossible for a creature so big to exist because it defies the laws of nature"

  • I clicked dislike even though I LOVE this video. Ignorance is funny.

  • you are a dumb ass!

  • "Prove that Atheism is accurate and correct." That statement is completely nonsensical. If the evidence for god(s) doesn't show up then you're an atheist. I don't say that there is no way in hell that there is not a god, but I say, according to the evidence presented by the theists, that their gods don't. Theists make the claim that their god WITHOUT QUESTION exists. Theists make that claim so they have the responsibility to prove that. It's not the atheist's fault if they don't measure up.

  • shockofgod likes dicks

  • You are what - being "funny", or retarded?

  • Evidence? like what? tide go in, tide go out, sun go up, sun go down,

  • you got a answer you just chose not to accept the answer.

  • Non belief doesn't require evidence.... What the hell are you thinking?  Fool.

  • What a fucking troll.... "mountains of evidence for christianity?" WHERE?

  • Aren't you just another special little liar for the zombie-boy on a stick! If you are the best that christianity has to offer then your religion is doomed. Why can't you post what Matt actually said? Are you afraid to show just how thoroughly pwned you were?

  • Congratulations. You have produced one of the dumbest videos on YouTube.

  • you are a fucking idiot

  • Look at your Dislike bar grow... you are a life failure.. and mentally insane.

  • wow... even the authors from the bible could not have done it worse than this!

  • There is no answer because there is no question, Atheism doesn't have any claims to prove, religion does.

  • "Provide proof and evidence that atheism is accurate and correct."

    Atheism doesn't have any claims to prove, what the hell do you want?

  • Once again: The origins of stupidity

  • MORONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

    

  • You're an idiot. There's no evidence for christianity or jesus. Atheism requires no evidence because it is a REJECTION of your lack of evidence.

  • Wow, a Christian video where I can actually post what I think as an atheist! I've got to give you some credit, if this were shockofgod's video I would have no chance of getting a comment through that wasn't basically agreeing with him to the letter.

  • He hung up when you refused to answer HIS question and present PROOF of YOUR claim. You are so fucking blind to reason, and straight answers. Yes I have seen that episode three or four times. You are the one who got owned!

  • Shockofgod fanboy that hasn't the mental capacity to understand the answer that was given in the video, even though it was quite clear

  • You have nothing to add

  • I know that this is proof and evidence that you're retarded

  • Not sure if troll ... or stupid...

  • @maynard789 BOTH! hehe

  • @maynard789 stupid

  • You are an idiot.

  • Here are some claims that are irrefutable by your own logic:

    1) Spaghetti Monster

    2) Leprechauns

    3) Unicorns

    4) Mini invisible dragons

    5) Big foot

    My claim is Spaghetti monster is the creator of the universe and he sent the other 4 beings as messengers for revelation.

    I know they exist without a shadow of a doubt as they are a spiritual enchantment or unless you can prove that they don't exist.

    So what proof and evidence have you got that they don't exist?

  • Haha epic start by Matt, "Yeah didn't i say in the email that the conversation was over"

  • "I think that I may have defeated Matt Dillahunty." Hmmm. Let's check again; nope, you didn't. Matt hung up on you because your question was idiotic.

    Also, there are no "mountains of evidence" proving the divinity of Jesus of Nazareth. Just mountains of personal assertions.

  • Oh yeah he got pwned real hard now hahahaha, for effin sake man you're not even makeing any point here at all. Think a arguement through and repost a new better video. And YES i don't agree with this at all, and partly becaus you're not takeing this buisness with him you hide behind your desk. Call him up when the show is on and tell it to him "in person". Bitchblood is inside you!

  • You're an idiot. It's okay. Because you're an idiot, you don't realize your idiocy.

  • @xzaozinx "What about writings from :Thallus (52AD), Pliny the Younger (61-113AD),Suetonius (69-140AD),Tacitus (56-120AD),Mara Bar-Serapion (70AD),Phlegon (80-140AD),Lucian of Samosata:(115-200 A.D.)" WOW and surprisingly (NOT) from your own citation, every single one of them was born AFTER Jesus died. So clearly they had absolutely NO first hand knowlage of him. BTW perhaps you should actually read the Talmud sometime and see what it really says about Jesus instead of taking somebody's word.

  • dude...quit...if you are a christian then you arent supposed to be acting like this. your jesus would be ashamed, that is if he ever existed.

  • Im shocked at the amount of people that say Santa Claus does NOT exist. What proof do they have that Santa does NOT exist? They discovered it was their parents? That's NOT conclusive. Maybe Santa Claus just neglect some people & the adults feel ashamed about this fact, so they hide it from their offspring. Since they dont have proof that Santa does NOT exist, then, it's intellectually honest to keep believing that it exists... LOL... Yeah. 'Cuz possibility equals probability.

  • I do enjoy good satire.

  • I knew this Sunder guy was retarded... but dear god...

  • John Smith must be trolling is. I mean.. seriously? he can't be serious. If he is, I might as well me jesus christ and a unicorn at the same time. Oh, and I can move my head in all directions at the same time.

  • You sound soooo annoying, also you don't understand atheism

  • You obviously dont understand how it works "john smith", YOU are the one who has issued a claim. We have challenged this claim. YOU need to proove the validity of your claim. This has been the issue all along. when you deliver real proof, then and ONLY then can your claim be taken seriously. This has yet to happen.

  • You better approach this John "person" (in spirit of civil conversation) with a hypocrisy and delusion-resistant suit. Whatever infected his brain seems dangerous and highly corrossive to reason.

  • What proof can be found that something doesn't exist? By that logic that all that isn't disaproven is true. Atheism is a default position where you don't believe something without sufficent evidence. They don't have to prove that god doesn't exists, just like you don't have prove that there is no space hippo that farted everything into existence or a magic flying spageti monster.

  • Hey guys don't be mean to this guy, I think he's retarded. We have to draw the line somewhere.

  • What's funny is you have no fucking clue how ignorant and stupid you are.

  • Oh so you're the idiot who proposed that. No dude, you're not badass, you're an idiot. This has been asked more than one time and they're quite used to morons like you.

  • This guy is laughably, painfully, ignorant and, unfortunately, willfully so. He's not "retarded" or "stupid" as some would like to suggest. It just seems he doesn't know any better and is so compartmentalized, he thinks he has it all figured out. He doesn't understand that atheism is NOT a world view nor a positive assertion within itself that requires "proof & evidence". The simple fact he doesn't get that means his understanding is built on false pretenses and he's arguing against a straw man.

  • all these comments around me should say SOMETHING about your retardation and arrogance !!

  • what an incredibly stupid turd

  • LOL there's not one single piece of evidence for christianity.

    What would "evidence" for atheism be anyway???? Oh right you can't have evidence for non-existence.

  • Was it madness when the Unicorn is referred to several times in the bible as a real animal????

  • WTF? Are you a ruh-tard? 

  • I was allmost convinced that the bible was true (NOT), after hearing this I am back to being a atheist.

  • You got your ass handed to you moron

  • Don't think you defeated Matt though, sorry.

  • Religious video fail.

  • lmfao

  • @RRoocckkyy50 Heh as I recall those idiots beat around the bush and provided no shred of evidence that atheism is the correct belief system, you know why? Because they know they're wrong.

  • @CosmosFiddler no actually those who claim there is no God must provide the proof. Atheists saying Christians have to is just a way of avoiding the truth. Btw lol Atheists only attack Christianity, there are other religions like muslim n such, atheists just are afraid of the true god.

  • @CrashHavokTV Attack christianity ? give me a proof "Hard Cold Fact Written by real historian" of any god. from christian to well, any kind of religion you know ? why are you christian peeps feelin insecure anyway ? if you believe in your faith just go ! don't bother us. in my life experience, its always the "religious" sort that come up to me and start telling me about god. so you might wanna revise that "atheist attack christian". well for my life sake.

  • @scrubbyjoe1 Why don't you take the initiative to find the proof and evidence yourself like I did. Atheists are lazy idiots. If you don't see the evidence of god you're freakin blind.

  • i think you should make a new video.you see i don't believe you,when you say you have mountains of evidence for Christianity.now mind you i do not count anything written in the bible or testimony.i want real evidence,testable evidence.i really cant wait to see it just label it real evidence for god or jesus .

  • Fantasy. Like your religion and your god. Typically arrogant Christian thinking. The request for proof that atheism is 'correct' is stupid. It demonstrates you don't understand the meaning of the word 'atheism'. It pertains to a lack of belief in a god. Those who believe in a god are those who must provide evidence. Why ask someone to provide evidence that 'disbelief' is correct? Dumb. Can't win on word play. What can't be proven outright can't be expected to gain believers. Truth wins.

  • this is actually hilarious both his voice and delusions

  • You're such a moron. At least you sound like Skwisgaar. That must be mildly entertaining.

  • Okay, I watched the episode in question. John Smith completely ignores a legitimate answer to his question and then repeats the question in a nonsensical fashion. It pains me to hear people like John who are so divorced from reasonable and rational thinking. Assuming that John attained some level of schooling, it troubles me deeply that this type of thinking is the product of some teacher's efforts.

  • @teaohar2 Homeschooling at its finest :D

  • @teaohar2 I know right? It's scary how much ideology can influence rationality and critical thinking. In a neurological study, completely good-natured and otherwise rational Christians were asked to think about god. There were electrodes attached to the brain to monitor which parts of the brain were stimulated. Turns out that the same spots were stimulated when people associated with actual human beings. That is fucking frightening. You can see why some call religion a mental illness.

  • I wonder... who is it you are really trying to convince?

  • "I'm going to provide the links below so you can see how stupid I actually am."

  • You did no such thing! I saw him whoop you! LOL! You Tube vlogger “village1diot “ has the video clipping of Atheist Experience when you called in & Matt Dillahunty executed a field goal kick to your crotch! You damned liar! LMAO!!

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  • why don't you play the clip??answer Matt owned you and made you look like a dip shit,thats why.

    then you make this pathetic vid and claim you won?? you got schooled you looked like the fool that you are.some people are so far behind in the race they think they are out in front,you are one of those people

  • This may be the most ridiculous video I've seen in a long time.

    Mat hung up on you because you were unable or unwilling to understand the simple notion of burden of proof. You make the same stupid error that Shockofgod makes.

    If you don't get the comparison between the invisible unicorn and your god, then you are simply too dumb to bother with.

  • He didn't answer your question because you didn't accept his original answer..

  • fucking dipshit

  • You are a stupid fucking idiot.

  • Atheism isn't the proof of anything, It's refraining from believing upon something which there is lack of evidence to. That's the genius of atheism. You can't tell someone to prove atheism, because it has nothing that has to be proven. On the other hand, just because there was a guy named Jesus doesn't mean Christianity is 100% fact. There's a crack dealer down the street who thinks he's god. Do we just take the word of one person and blindly follow it for eternity without question? I hope not.

  • you are an idiot!! wow you are a true FuckTard!!

  • hahaha. im glad the world doesnt revovle around your logic. i belive you are a pedophile and love dildos. now i wrote a book and have friends that agree with me, and they too wrote books about my book about u. so there ya go. mountains of evidence you are a pedophile and love dildos( but have never commited such act or have yet used dildos). now please present me some proof that you dont think that way.

  • 'mountains of evidence' ??? LOL where? mountains exist, we have proof of mountains, just none made of evidence for your 'god', (btw if you lived somewhere else you would blindly follow a different god and claim the god you currently follow is false - so basically the kind of god you believe in, on the main, is determined on geography - what kind of god is that!)

  • Sorry John - but you have got nothing with this. Looking through the various threads it seems that you have had a number of email and verbal exchanges with him in which you appear to fail to get the point. Your proposition (if you will permit me to summarise) is that the universe was created and the creator god has a special relationship with humans and reveals himself to us exclusively through the bible - that proposition bears the burden of proof - not Matt.

  • Dabating a creationist is like playing chess with a pigeon, they will knok the pieces down, crap un the borad and then claim victory.

  • You can't compare atheism with christianity. They are not opposite possitions.

    You can compare atheism with theism an dhere I agree with you. Atheists have no prove whether there is a god or not, but neither do you. You claim you know there is a god so the burden of proof is on you, not the atheist who does'nt claim anything, other than you're wrong in your claim. Is that really so hard to understand?

    You may compare christianity wit other religions like, buddism, thor, shiva, juju, etc etc.

  • "Rock on Christianity!" ...GOD that's embarrassing :\

  • how do you prove something doesn't exist? i can't prove god doesn't exist, just as i can't prove bigfoot doesn't exist...i'm open to the possibility of all, however unlikely. but when i see proof, then i'll have an actual reason to believe. it's really disgusting that such an established religion has only a nonsense question to fall back on. you can be a rational christian. it's not necessary to shut out reality, but rather adapt your beliefs to reality, not the other way around

  • Christians-Please provide sufficient evidence that Christianity is accurate and correct.

    Atheists-Please provide sufficient evidence that Atheism is accurate and correct.

  • Atheism is not provable and Christianity has overwhelming evidence that it is true. The Existence of Israel is evidence of God. No other nation in history has been sread throughout the world and retained it's culture and history as Israel and then come back together as a nation just as the scripture foretold to the day and year. Israel as a nation is truly a Miricle of God. Prophecy,Archaeology, Historical documents,Eye witness accounts,DNA Digital Code,Sybiosis,Seperate sexes,Fibonacci..ect

  • Maybe they heard "the question" so many times already that they don't bother answering it? I'm no atheist, but I think there is a fairly reasonable way to answer it:

    "Based on my observations of reality and the failure of religion (as seen by me) to account for the existence of deities, I find Atheism to be a fairly accurate and (as I'm convinced in my mind) correct position until proven wrong" - I can't think of a better way they would have answered this.

    It's all belief and opinion, folks.

  • Not many people realize that atheism is faith as well...

  • i am a Christian but this is a fail

  • hahah...this is just pathetic.

  • Wow this must have made you a nominee for the 'Troll of the Year' awards.

  • ...Wow.

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  • holy fuck that there even exist ppl like this is mindboggling!

    if aliens ever came toearth they probably left and put a retard stamp on this planet coz of the stupidity of religion.

  • @Trigggggggggggger stupidity??? and you mention aliens?? you are the moron mentioning aliens..that dont exist...

  • @thewheel246 Can you prove that aliens dont exist?

    Christian logic.

    Btw my comment was more of a joke then a statement that aliens visisted earth.

  • he tried to explain to you in simple terms that an imbicile would understand, a feasable answer to your idiotic ranting. if if went over your head then you must be too stupid to realise you are stupid. why go through life just being an idiot when you can vidio it, put it on you tube, and show the world.

  • Is it me or does this guy sound like John Turturro in Mr. Deeds? Sneaky Sneaky.

  • The fact that this guy didn't get the unicorn example is proof enough that he lost. He just didn't like the fact that his lack of evidence is a valid reason not to believe.

  • COCKSUCKER

  • Matt did answer the question more than once and explained why your question is not a valid question to begin with. Atheism isn't an assertion, it is a rejection of belief in god(s). No god in all of the history of man has been proven to exist. The one making the claim must provide evidence (aka - all thiests), otherwise the claim can and will be rejected. Your question is like asking for evidence that Tom Cruise doesn't have magical powers. It's idiotic.

  • no, he made an idiot of you there, and you just confirmed it here. show us this mountain of evidence you have.

  • people can believe in whatever they want just you people don't have to strike other for their belief this goes for both christians and atheists I'm a christian myself and people don't get religion and faith isn't the same blind faith is how you should believe in god and if you keep saying give me evidence of him existing then this is not your thing... so please make peace and share love and not fight because we have different beliefs

  • hey all you christians you missed the boat on your saviors return. back in the 90's. remember GG Allin? if you don't know about him, look up GG Allin on wikipedia or find the story of the angel telling Merle Allin sr. his wife will give birth to the new messiah. if you love Jesus, then you love GG. find the real jesus christ and follow his new message and complete your destiny.

  • LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO­LOLOLOL.

    Wow, you are absolutely the most retarded human being I have ever heard talk. Do you seriously not get it? Nonsensical, look the fucking word up. Fuck! 

  • no, you prove your side of the arguement. and you cant.

  • The reason the question cannot be answered is because the question makes no sense. It is like asking what does yellow taste like? Or how fast is nine? the question is nonsensical, thus there can be no answer.

  • 1. Atheism is a response to a positive claim. Atheism is not a positive claim. You are an idiot.

    2. Evidence for god please...

  • @BlindleadintheBlind And you probobably never will.

    Logic leads most Athiests to a theory and a position on religion - That point for me being "there are over 2'000 (ignoring all the sub religious divisions) Gods, not all can be right and they all have the same amount of evidence (i.e. a holy book or scripture of somekind) the most likley conclussion is no one has it right" so until some can prove something the default position is to essentially sit on the sidlines and wait.

  • I'm honestly trying to figure out if this is satire... :S If so, bravo on the voice very good and close to the real one.

    If it isn't satire matt did answer the question... Twice. i.e. prove the lock ness monster doesn't exist - until you do you better get re writting all the species books.

  • All religion is dangerous, divisive , infantile nonsense.

  • Yo this to all atheist out there a world without god is a world of death and blood no good at all just hate,pain and rage a world will not the strongest live the longest but the ture deivl in human skin that's the world you want so bad a world of sin fine do what ya do there is a place ya know what it is Hell

  • What are you on about.. For a start the world with god (i.e. when the church was allowed to do whatever the hell it liked) was called the dark ages for a reason. Secondly you just have to look at basic statisical analysis for example, Sweden is the most Athiestic nation on Earth and is better then most countries in terms of crimes (particularly violent ones)

    Or how about 15% of the US population being Atheistic and making up only 0.2% of the prison population - your argument is obviously flawed.

  • @GTKDYLAN God doesnt let you articulate your position very well, does he?

  • @gunfiremessiah with out god you die

  • Is Matt a Drag Queen?

  • Are you literally trying to sound stupid? are you a pranker?

  • SunderN00b :D

  • This guy still doesn't get it? And he takes it as proof that he's clever? Oh my.

  • yeah - now i just watched the video...

    you really need to understand the relation of positive/negative claims and burden of proof. they didn't fail. you defeated no one...

  • At least this guy doesn't disable the ratings and only allow comment that say good things like shockofgod.

  • In Leviticus 21 it says to murder homosexuals if they are to lay with another man.... moral? Says to stone your disobedient children to death... still moral? Says owning and selling slaves is OK, also says if a women is raped she must marry her rapist or be put to death... NOT moral. MORON!

  • i feel sorry that this man has no sense of logic or metaphors.