Interesting all these comments about what is wrong with lawyers. Nothing is wrong with lawyers, in the appropriate amount. My spoof was a rebuttal on the Libs failed ad about Labor pollies having union backgrounds pointing out the legal connection behind pretty much every Coalition front-bencher. BTW the Coalition lost and this is the first time I have even been bothered to come check out these posts. So it seems like a case of sour grapes from Liberal supporters to me.
"This time we won't be fooled"...so true mate, Australians finally looked behind the curtain and saw the wizard wasn't so flash. With the calibre of opposition leaders, the liberals will remain in opposition for many years to come, where they belong.
oh i know.. how about inventing a BS protocol to profit old media share holders investing in BS engery while Eco bashing China, Japan, and the USA for a bit first..
Funny no high voltage power grids in those propaganda green engery photos..
hay ruddy;
hows that pulp mill going,
hows that Digital Rights Managment going,
hows the 500 pages every month of junk mail going...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Is all I have to say to you liberal supporters. For once the people of Australia showed we aint gonna take it anymore. Howard has ridden a wave of good fortune for too long. Lets all remember the PM who lost his seat.
so you would rather kill what we have now for a measly $50 in the mail which will become worthless if labor gets elected?
pfft labor will ruin the country, kevin rudd is a lone man, his members aren't with him. when they have thir own idea, he shuts them up. take peter garret for example, he said he was going to do something he belived in.... kevin rudd made him do a backflip
Ok I think I need to make the point that this video was my first ever YouTube attempt and I was very much using irony to make my point. Whilst I still think that lawyers are overrepresented in Parliament I should also note that there are a number of very good lawyers out there. Peter Russo and Julian Burnside come to my mind and some good friends of mine are lawyers.
Yet they attack University Unions as the breeding ground of future "non-Liberal" politicians. I think Christopher Pyne maybe had to pay HECS. He looks young enough. Might explain why he looks like he just sucked on a lemon every time he speaks.
how can the wanker who made this otherwise footage draw the conclusion that lawyers and bankers are out of touch? ok so Joe macdonald and his henchmen are not? so Union officials are up to date? aging rockstars and former news readers and journos are all up to scratch? get a life ffs
Dear "impolite" poster. The point is that if the Liberal Party can use reductivism to claim that if one has any sort of Union affiliation that makes you only a Unionist and nothing else and therefore non-representative and therefore not fit to govern. Then so can I by pointing out that most of the Coalition frontbench have a law degree.
I'm glad we have people with legal training MAKING LAWS, I'm also glad we have people with a finance background running the economy. If anything this video is positive for the government.
That's right. Lawyers are so good at writing laws. That's why there are tens of thousands of them in Australia writing them and arguing and squabbling over them.
They're good at writing laws which benefit the right-wing agenda they stand for (sticking up for rich rich people, trying their hardest to make them richer).... Whereas unionists write laws which protect the rights of the normal worker. And Hawke was much better for the economy than Howard's war mongering group...
I wish Labor would run negative attack ads like this. Hopefully they will in the last week to make everyone wake up and realise what they are getting when they elect Coalition MPs. Keep up the good work. Maybe a parody of the Liberal anti-Garrett ad parodying Tony Abbott? Cheers.
I dislike Liberal's policies...but remember, there are lawyers who vote Labor. But they are probably human rights or lawyers for the common good...not spin-doctors with wigs
I agree there are some very good lawyers who do a good job for the people they serve. Just like there is the occasional union official who does a bad job whilst the rest are doing a very good job for employees.
How foolish. Even Costello admits he can't back the 70% claim. Swan never worked for a Union. Gillard was a lawyer (ironic I know) who was hired by unions - even Costello and Turnbull worked for unions as lawyers. As for banks generating wealth for the community (lol!). Banks lend money to entrepreneurs who are prepared to risk to generate wealth for themselves and the community - the banks take in money whether businesses succeed or not. The Unions brought us wage constraint under the Accord.
I have to agree with Joshua though - lawyers still represent a decent cross-section of society (including the unions, as you pointed out), whereas unionists don't.
Oh what rot! Most paid union officials were once workers in their industry who were good workplace activists and got promoted according to their performance. This means they come from professional backgrounds, trade backgrounds, labourer backgrounds. There are heaps of nurses, teachers, truck drivers, builders, engineers, firemen, policemen etc... male and female, young and old persons filling the ranks of union officials. As KR says - let's put all the facts on the table.
What the Liberals are attempting to point out is that this will upset the union/workers and employers/business balance. Especially in a time when unemployment is at record lows, giving added power to unions doesn't seem like a logical thing to do.
Another point - lawyers represent people from different backgrounds too, so by the same token the Liberal Party had an acceptable cross-section of society on its front bench.
There have always been unionists and lawyers in parlt. The Libs are pushing hyperbole. Labor is no more or less representative of its core constituency this time than is the Coalition. At the end of the day the voter has a complex choice part of this will be should the representatives of capital or labour take our society forward. Labor have successfully prosecuted the case that the capitalists have taken Australia far too far from core values of mateship and a fair go
So you've conceded the point that Labour doesn't embody a cross-section of society, but more from the workers/union end?
Good - I'm glad we've got some honesty here; that's the only thing I'm trying to point out. Whether or not the government will be too far to the left, as the Liberals are pushing, is another question.
The point of this video I think is that it's entirely hypocritical for the liberals to claim that Labour only represents limited interest groups in society when the liberal party is probably more guilty of such an accusation. The liberal party represents a powerful minority (capital, baking) who have fooled many into beliving only they know how to run the economy by mystifying economic processes.
laywer = give me your money and i will lie, discredit or anything required good or bad to get more money.
banker = I give you money, but give me all your money, your car and your home latter thnx, enjoy the streets.
Past 10 years seems unemployment is increasing, its just more people are just going back to uni or some type of partial work, yet there no longer classified unemployed, plus drugs/drinking and other activities rather then holding a fulltime job seem popular these days.
What level of education do you need to be a union offical compared to that of a lawyer?....None. Personally i like Rudd over Howard but unfortunately it's the bench of the labor party that makes my decision. What will big business do if Labor gets in.....sack a shit load of people whilst they have they chance..or close their business here and take it overseas.
VOTE LABOR AND LETS GO BACK TO 17.75% INTEREST RATES
5 major economic reforms brought to you by ALP and the Unions 1.floating the dollar 2.deregulating the banks 3.enterprise bargaining 4.superannuation 5.eliminating tarrifs. Howard and Costello's contribution? A GST. No Workchoices is not a reform - its a retro to the Master and Servants Act. The real cost of a mortgages and owning a home is 2x now under JWH than it ever was under Hawke/Keating. The Libs are cunning and desperate and they have certainly fooled you with their propaganda.
Yeah but they induced a recession through there policies. Over spent so we had 96 billion dollars of debt. And left a 10 billion budget surplus.
You can reform everything you want but if you cant add numbers like labor (tax plan) you can't manage a 1.1 trillion dollar economy.
Plus owning a home now is harder because people spend like mad on things they can't afford. Houses on average are 2 times larger than they used to be.
Interesting all these comments about what is wrong with lawyers. Nothing is wrong with lawyers, in the appropriate amount. My spoof was a rebuttal on the Libs failed ad about Labor pollies having union backgrounds pointing out the legal connection behind pretty much every Coalition front-bencher. BTW the Coalition lost and this is the first time I have even been bothered to come check out these posts. So it seems like a case of sour grapes from Liberal supporters to me.
drallew1 2 years ago
"This time we won't be fooled"...so true mate, Australians finally looked behind the curtain and saw the wizard wasn't so flash. With the calibre of opposition leaders, the liberals will remain in opposition for many years to come, where they belong.
backtobelmore 3 years ago
I tried to support anonleft, but it wouldn't let me!
Marysue52 4 years ago
Good vid.
costy1511 4 years ago
oh i know.. how about inventing a BS protocol to profit old media share holders investing in BS engery while Eco bashing China, Japan, and the USA for a bit first..
Funny no high voltage power grids in those propaganda green engery photos..
hay ruddy;
hows that pulp mill going,
hows that Digital Rights Managment going,
hows the 500 pages every month of junk mail going...
ozbs 4 years ago
:-)
HAY WEVY07? SPANNERS: Illegaly trashing Oz with Advertisment on RTA road signs and public lands by the ALP/UNIONS works...
Each state allows more than 500 A4 pages every month of fake recycling to all australian mail boxes to rig elections for old media!
:-(
ozbs 4 years ago
New projects ? Fast Broadband ? Renewable Energy ? Not many Engineers or Builders.
11 years of No Hope Howard, what were we thinking ?
Build Australia ?
A forrest of laws and no trees.
coalltar 4 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Is all I have to say to you liberal supporters. For once the people of Australia showed we aint gonna take it anymore. Howard has ridden a wave of good fortune for too long. Lets all remember the PM who lost his seat.
Luciferjjj 4 years ago
so you would rather kill what we have now for a measly $50 in the mail which will become worthless if labor gets elected?
pfft labor will ruin the country, kevin rudd is a lone man, his members aren't with him. when they have thir own idea, he shuts them up. take peter garret for example, he said he was going to do something he belived in.... kevin rudd made him do a backflip
823265 4 years ago
Yeah they are also kill Iraqi childern, they are EVIL lawyers.
PissedBogan 4 years ago
Ok I think I need to make the point that this video was my first ever YouTube attempt and I was very much using irony to make my point. Whilst I still think that lawyers are overrepresented in Parliament I should also note that there are a number of very good lawyers out there. Peter Russo and Julian Burnside come to my mind and some good friends of mine are lawyers.
drallew1 4 years ago
And WorkChoices has created a balance between employer and employee?
Get real!
annipetama 4 years ago
The irony is that all of these 'lawyers' got their education and training at Australian Universities for free. They never had a HECS to pay.
costy1511 4 years ago
Yet they attack University Unions as the breeding ground of future "non-Liberal" politicians. I think Christopher Pyne maybe had to pay HECS. He looks young enough. Might explain why he looks like he just sucked on a lemon every time he speaks.
drallew1 4 years ago
I reckon he sucks on Costello's lemon
annipetama 4 years ago
how can the wanker who made this otherwise footage draw the conclusion that lawyers and bankers are out of touch? ok so Joe macdonald and his henchmen are not? so Union officials are up to date? aging rockstars and former news readers and journos are all up to scratch? get a life ffs
YaguBro 4 years ago
Dear "impolite" poster. The point is that if the Liberal Party can use reductivism to claim that if one has any sort of Union affiliation that makes you only a Unionist and nothing else and therefore non-representative and therefore not fit to govern. Then so can I by pointing out that most of the Coalition frontbench have a law degree.
drallew1 4 years ago
I'm glad we have people with legal training MAKING LAWS, I'm also glad we have people with a finance background running the economy. If anything this video is positive for the government.
RPFeynman602 4 years ago
That's right. Lawyers are so good at writing laws. That's why there are tens of thousands of them in Australia writing them and arguing and squabbling over them.
drallew1 4 years ago
It'd be good to have some people in charge of industrial relations who care about the workers, too.
anonleft 4 years ago
belive it or not mate... thats democracy, laws are made to be changed and argued over
823265 4 years ago
As are Governments.
drallew1 4 years ago
They're good at writing laws which benefit the right-wing agenda they stand for (sticking up for rich rich people, trying their hardest to make them richer).... Whereas unionists write laws which protect the rights of the normal worker. And Hawke was much better for the economy than Howard's war mongering group...
j0elc 4 years ago
Sure, we should be very glad they have legal training - trained to lie, obscure facts, and win their case at all costs.
RasputinEyes 4 years ago
And can you please actually allow my comments to be displayed?
This is censorship, and it demonstrates your own bias in that you are unwilling to give equal representation to arguments for the opposition.
hurikai 4 years ago
Hey, if you want to be paranoid be so.
But I believe all of your comments have been displayed.
drallew1 4 years ago
everyone knows lawyers are c*nts, just speak to one
majikrush 4 years ago
I wish Labor would run negative attack ads like this. Hopefully they will in the last week to make everyone wake up and realise what they are getting when they elect Coalition MPs. Keep up the good work. Maybe a parody of the Liberal anti-Garrett ad parodying Tony Abbott? Cheers.
snabymom 4 years ago
Hi Snabymom thanks heaps. Check out my Abbott and Costello ads as well.
drallew1 4 years ago
I dislike Liberal's policies...but remember, there are lawyers who vote Labor. But they are probably human rights or lawyers for the common good...not spin-doctors with wigs
jampt1989 4 years ago
Thanks jampt1989
I agree there are some very good lawyers who do a good job for the people they serve. Just like there is the occasional union official who does a bad job whilst the rest are doing a very good job for employees.
drallew1 4 years ago
Most of people there only have law degrees, many didn't practice and have much more experience in life than unionist labor front benchers.
For example Tony Abbott was never a lawyer he was a journalist and plant manager.
Alexander Downer was never a banker her was an economist and diplomat.
Plus unionists are worse than lawyers because lawyers represent many different people across the community, unionist don't
And Bankers generate wealth for the community, unionists don't.
joshuaarm 4 years ago
How foolish. Even Costello admits he can't back the 70% claim. Swan never worked for a Union. Gillard was a lawyer (ironic I know) who was hired by unions - even Costello and Turnbull worked for unions as lawyers. As for banks generating wealth for the community (lol!). Banks lend money to entrepreneurs who are prepared to risk to generate wealth for themselves and the community - the banks take in money whether businesses succeed or not. The Unions brought us wage constraint under the Accord.
drallew1 4 years ago
I have to agree with Joshua though - lawyers still represent a decent cross-section of society (including the unions, as you pointed out), whereas unionists don't.
hurikai 4 years ago
Oh what rot! Most paid union officials were once workers in their industry who were good workplace activists and got promoted according to their performance. This means they come from professional backgrounds, trade backgrounds, labourer backgrounds. There are heaps of nurses, teachers, truck drivers, builders, engineers, firemen, policemen etc... male and female, young and old persons filling the ranks of union officials. As KR says - let's put all the facts on the table.
drallew1 4 years ago
I don't think you get the point -
What the Liberals are attempting to point out is that this will upset the union/workers and employers/business balance. Especially in a time when unemployment is at record lows, giving added power to unions doesn't seem like a logical thing to do.
Another point - lawyers represent people from different backgrounds too, so by the same token the Liberal Party had an acceptable cross-section of society on its front bench.
hurikai 4 years ago
There have always been unionists and lawyers in parlt. The Libs are pushing hyperbole. Labor is no more or less representative of its core constituency this time than is the Coalition. At the end of the day the voter has a complex choice part of this will be should the representatives of capital or labour take our society forward. Labor have successfully prosecuted the case that the capitalists have taken Australia far too far from core values of mateship and a fair go
drallew1 4 years ago
So you've conceded the point that Labour doesn't embody a cross-section of society, but more from the workers/union end?
Good - I'm glad we've got some honesty here; that's the only thing I'm trying to point out. Whether or not the government will be too far to the left, as the Liberals are pushing, is another question.
hurikai 4 years ago
Of course, it wouldn't be the "Labor Party" otherwise and I wouldnt support it. Life is about choices after all. Have enjoyed the debate.
drallew1 4 years ago
The point of this video I think is that it's entirely hypocritical for the liberals to claim that Labour only represents limited interest groups in society when the liberal party is probably more guilty of such an accusation. The liberal party represents a powerful minority (capital, baking) who have fooled many into beliving only they know how to run the economy by mystifying economic processes.
feef87 4 years ago
laywer = give me your money and i will lie, discredit or anything required good or bad to get more money.
banker = I give you money, but give me all your money, your car and your home latter thnx, enjoy the streets.
Past 10 years seems unemployment is increasing, its just more people are just going back to uni or some type of partial work, yet there no longer classified unemployed, plus drugs/drinking and other activities rather then holding a fulltime job seem popular these days.
JINGWA64 4 years ago
Wake up what are you talking about, Unions also represent many different people across the commnunity also, plus laywers charge more for their help.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
Legendary stuff, mate. You did the video yourself, or was it one of Labor's campaigns? I haven't seen this yet until now. Ta, for the clip, mate.
Phil28168 4 years ago
totally myself, thanks
drallew1 4 years ago
i wonder if all the apologies yesterday by tony abbott will lead to sorry from mr howard?
fantasticini 4 years ago
Truth and Justice practiced by a bunch of lawyers?
Gunnabee 4 years ago
What level of education do you need to be a union offical compared to that of a lawyer?....None. Personally i like Rudd over Howard but unfortunately it's the bench of the labor party that makes my decision. What will big business do if Labor gets in.....sack a shit load of people whilst they have they chance..or close their business here and take it overseas.
VOTE LABOR AND LETS GO BACK TO 17.75% INTEREST RATES
WAR79SWIFT 4 years ago
5 major economic reforms brought to you by ALP and the Unions 1.floating the dollar 2.deregulating the banks 3.enterprise bargaining 4.superannuation 5.eliminating tarrifs. Howard and Costello's contribution? A GST. No Workchoices is not a reform - its a retro to the Master and Servants Act. The real cost of a mortgages and owning a home is 2x now under JWH than it ever was under Hawke/Keating. The Libs are cunning and desperate and they have certainly fooled you with their propaganda.
drallew1 4 years ago
Yeah but they induced a recession through there policies. Over spent so we had 96 billion dollars of debt. And left a 10 billion budget surplus.
You can reform everything you want but if you cant add numbers like labor (tax plan) you can't manage a 1.1 trillion dollar economy.
Plus owning a home now is harder because people spend like mad on things they can't afford. Houses on average are 2 times larger than they used to be.
joshuaarm 4 years ago
Refer to above. Libs have no plan for the future.
drallew1 4 years ago
Yeah the point is very well made...but it could use some humour. Search "Liberal Scare" for the Evil Bunny - it's very funny!
goodgoatee 4 years ago
thanks, point taken
i've seen the scare bunny - he is very scarey!
drallew1 4 years ago
Excellent.
tufnel1970 4 years ago
about time this one is up
crackers95 4 years ago
Great work.
burpwind 4 years ago
Great stuff - well done
sneakyam 4 years ago