Hi i'm Evangelist Maurice Ellis and i would like to share some good news today and that is for you to be saved and miss hell and go to heaven pray this prayer say: Dear Lord Jesus forgive my sins and come into my heart, I believe you are the Son of God who died and rose again from the dead after 3 days (matthew 27:63) Thank you Lord Jesus for saving me.amen. write me if you prayed this prayer or to support my giving ministry. Evangelist Maurice Ellis p.o. box 470405 Los Angeles,CA.90047
Nah no way dude. John MacArthur Is preaching truth it's all backed up by scripture. he's not giving some smiley preacher peep talk he's dealing with the major issue of false conversions which lead many to hell.
@mamainmancj I thought we just clarified that "it`s all backed up by scripture" carries no weight ,as "Scripture" can be shown to be wrong. "Backed up by evidence" is what you should look for ,otherwise your critical thinking skills are not working. Take your biblical blinkers off dude and read some other books.
If you read more books ,your spelling wouldn`t be so shit. I was making the point that Science is a good thing ,and the fact that religious people dismiss it is a testament to their blindness. I dont really want you to contract a plague , but am merely telling you that the people who worked out how to cure it deserve some respect , not some froth about being evil.
John MacArthur is one of the few most bibically sound (in theology and doctrine) orthodox evangelical preachers in our time and I love listening to his sermons. God bless him!
There is a more recent two-part sermon MacArthur also gave in 2007 (68 yrs old). You really should hear this. It's focus is on Matthew 7:13-27. Prior to the sermons it was on Matthew 7:13-14 which is a great preparation prior to the full context. So, visit gtydotorg for those free sermons (In search field type 80-325 To hear the two part series though listen to 80-326 and 80-327. These are sermons some of you may want to hear and then send on to others in your prayer that they hear them too.
@Monstergoat66 Yes , the cost is abandoning man`s hard won empirical knowledge in favour of religious dogma that cannot withstand scientific scrutiny. The cost is the retardation of our rationality in favour of superstitious nonsense. The cost is reducing man to worthless wretched sheep in need of a totalitarian invigilator of everything you think or do , at the expense of our pride. The cost is accepting the drivel of intellectual lightweights like Macarthur in favour of better mentors.
@ilikezappa I see your faith is in mans finite intellectual capacity. That seems irrational at best to put your faith in something as limited as mans understanding. The God you are opposing is infinite and tells us that as high as the heavens (the cosmos) are above the earth, so are my thoughts and ways above yours. Any intellectually honest scientist would not rule out God without observational emperical evidence. Empericist's and Naturalist's are short sighted at best and not omniscient.
@hefty798 Hmmm , So why did you choose Jehovah , and not Zeus to believe in ? Please dont tell me it was man`s limited understanding , or considering the evidence that drew you to this conclusion ?
As a scientist , I dont rule out the existence of a creator. That would indeed be intellectually dishonest. I can , however, see that the Bible makes many factual claims which are wrong. So ,God possibly , Jehovah , no.
@ilikezappa we believe in Jehovah and not Zeus is because of Jesus Christ-the Son of God. the life and teaching and testimony of Jesus Christ is the cornerstone of why we believe in Jehovah.
The Bible makes no mistake in anything it declares. Your conclusion that it does is based on either an invalid interpretation of the text in question and/or an invalid observation and interpretation of that which you say invalidates the claim of the Bible. the Bible is the litmus, not the other way around.
Hi Hermit. I have heard the argument that the Bible is inerrant and it is merely our interpretation that is at fault before. The book of Genesis makes the claim that trees were created before the Sun. Is this the wrong interpretation or is that how it happened ? Was there a Global flood ? This would certainly be at odds with the evidence. Noah`s Ark ? You are pulling my chain.........
@hefty798 By the way , we can measure the size of the Cosmos now , and calculate its age. It kind of scuppers the cute Book of Genesis idea that the stars are pretty baubles created for men to look at or that the Earth is two weeks old , or whatever it is that the dogma you prefer would have you believe. Why you would prefer this book ,written by Iron age desert tribesmen who barely had the wheel , escapes me.
@ilikezappa So how did you do it? what was your reference for it's age? Or are you just believing what you are told? Where is your technology getting you, Does it make you happy and give you love?
@TheOringinalBRad Pretty much believing what the scientific consensus is ,based on my conclusion that its methodology is the most reliable way of establishing truth in these matters. I didn`t go out there and date the rocks myself ,if that`s what you mean. It seems better to me than believing the Pastor ,who is unlikely to know shit about science and therefore will be just spouting unsubstantiated dogma.
@TheOringinalBRad Does the fact that Humanity uses its rationality make me happy ? Of course. Otherwise I would be sitting in a cave waiting for the Gods to start a fire for me, instead of tucking into some pasta, with a rather fine bottle of Chianti. Dont knock science too readily my friend,or I will hope you contract bubonic plague and watch you pray for God to heal you. You will probably ask me for some Penicillin in the end I imagine
@ilikezappa for knockiong science you will hope I get a plauge what kind of heart speaks of that, certainly no friend of mine...of topic bu t since I am here.... God wrote only one book the devil has written thousands trying to explain it. Yeshua is Lord stand with him.
@ilikezappa nothing more wicked in this world than ingratitude. it is in fact the root of all wickedness. from it man has robbed God of the glory and thanksgiving due to his mercy and goodness to the children of men; by taking to themselves the credit of such things as penicillin, and even a mind to reason to improve upon the creature-comforts that we have come to know today. an ingratitude which must make one willfully ignorant of God's goodness, which eventually leads to absolute reprobation.
@ilikezappa nothing more wicked in this world than ingratitude. it is in fact the root of all wickedness. from it man has robbed God of the glory and thanksgiving due to his mercy and goodness to the children of men; by taking to themselves the credit of such things as penicillin, and even a mind to reason to improve upon the creature-comforts that we have come to know today. an ingratitude which must make one willfully ignorant of God's goodness, which eventually leads to absolute reprobation.
Dear Mr McArthur. I know I am saved. I am not a perfect woman I lose it from time to time. I confess my sins and repent. What does God do with my daily sins he forgets them. Can you imagine He God of the Universe forgets my sin. The Holy spirt convicts me. what must I do ? I must confess. repentance is daily for me. God knows my thoughts. my struggles , hopes and dreams. My sins are already paid in full. Jesus did that a looooooooong time ago. I am a sinner saved by Grace.
Now granted, I have a lot of respect for McArthur, I completely agree with his views on Chrismatics and the Chrismatic movement. He really drives it home in those areas. But I wish he could be more clear on the issue of salvation and how a person knows they are saved. Since this issue is far more crucial. We can muddy the waters and confuse other non essentials but salvation we need to be as clear as possible and I wish he or someone here who knows his viewpoint could help clear things up.
@cubeus19 why is this so hard for you to understand??? Salvation is by faith and faith alone. romans 10:9, these men and denominations muddy up the water so much for people to simply understand the truth, that salvation is simply BELIEVING in Christ, accepting his work on the cross and just leave it there. It's by faith and only thru faith.
Mr. MacArthur has sound points. I 've benefitted from his sermon often. However theologically he supports John Calvin's teaching. John Calvin was a well known reformer of the early church. He thought salvation is for God's few elect. basicaly few people get to be in heaven with Jesus. the rest of us are just tagging along.
if someone says they are saved and born again John McArthur probably will cross examine them and throw challenging questions like how?
McArthur is acting like if you have "true saving faith" God will basically turn you into a robot who cannot commit any sin or make any mistakes. Is that even possible? Do any of you all know anyone living today who does not sin or screw up from time to time? Is McArthur sinless on a 24/7 basis? Doesn't he make any mistakes, because if he does he may be a "false convert" as well. Man, even a topic like salvation is so confusing. :(
@cubeus19 the difference isn't whether or not one sins as the mark of true conversion. but it is marked by the hearts relationship to that sin. Rom. 6:21 points to the experience of shame that is not evident in the unbeliever. there is an actual hatred of the sin in one's life. a loathing even that leads one to be as the publican who knows all to well the wretchedness of the sinner that he is. but if this is where it ended, it would not provide any assurance.
@cubeus19 as is concluded in Rom. 7 where Paul in recognizing the sin that was still in him found his only hope in Jesus Christ. many have guilt for sin, yet don't really want to be delivered from their sin, but only from the shame of it. if the Spirit has regenerated a heart with the seal of faith, that heart desires not only be cleansed of his guilt, but to also be delivered from the sin that is its cause. a faith, mind you, that lives in the hope found in Jesus Christ by his resurrection.
@cubeus19 the Holy Spirit through Paul tells us to: work out your own salvation with fear and trembling (Phil 2:12b). the false convert will be found to be putting his hopes on his changed life, his religious devotion, etc. the true convert, who indeed has found repentance in his heart-though he still sins, and is still a sinner-and makes every effort to walk in righteousness and holiness and love for one another; places no hope on anything he does or is, but puts all his hopes where it
@cubeus19 has always been-on Jesus Christ, the Rock of his Salvation. He will say amen, knowing that the Lord who is the Author and Finisher of faith will as Ps 138:8 declares: The LORD will perfect that which concerneth me: thy mercy, O LORD, endureth for ever: forsake not the works of thine own hands.
@cubeus19 and as the Lord has been showing me over and over again: I find, that no matter how terrible the times may be, especially when my sins are surrounding me (Ps. 49:5), and I find that my world to be like that of Jeremiah's as he penned Lamentations 3; that while i deserve every bit, and more of the troubles that afflict me, i can quietly wait upon the Lord as i am made to remember that his compassions fail not; that they are new every morning: great is thy faithfulness.
@cubeus19 when both Peter and Paul speak of the trial of our faith through manifold trials and temptations, there is often something missed by many readers. They mistakenly read it to mean that our faith is being made stronger. This is far from the truth. the faith that is given cannot be any stronger than it already is. what is being revealed to us through those trials is that that faith which is given to us will endure no matter what. If you wake up in the morning, and through your day
@cubeus19 you find that your soul is still calling unto the Lord, it is not because of your earnestness in calling upon the Lord; but upon the promise being kept daily, where the Spirit of God in you causes you to cry out, not just once a long time ago, but always and forever, each and every day throughout the day, Abba Father. This is not occuring in everyone. it is only occuring in those whom the Spirit has regenerated.
@cubeus19 you might be encouraged to notice that Peter's opening, and closing, exhortation in his 2nd epistle was that we would grow in grace, and the knowledge thereof-which is in our Lord Jesus Christ. He addressed it to those who had obtained like precious faith. notice he didn't exhort them to grow in faith, but in grace. as you grow in the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ-and begin to scratch the surface of the purity of his holiness and righteousness, you will soon see that you could
@cubeus19 never come even remotely close to that. it will in fact have the same effect on you as it did when Isaiah found himself before the throne of the Lord in Isaiah 6. you will be fearfully humbled in your soul at the contrasting revelation of Christ's holiness and righteousness and your own filthy sinfulness. it will be then, by the mercy of the Lord upon your soul, that you will see how it must be all of grace for there to be any hope for any one of us. it will destroy any delusions
@cubeus19 of our righteousness commending us in anyway towards God. it will not cause that heart to give up doing what is right, and pursuing that which is holy; but it will stop trying to think that any of that is securing peace with God; where as Isaiah later reveals that our peace is altogether dependant on what God himself does in us (Isaiah 26:12). That the peace we experience and have for all eternity is by the work of God in our soul. It is God himself who keeps us in perfect peace.
@cubeus19 are you at peace with God? on what basis do you rest that peace? are you resting it on Jesus Christ? or are you resting it on what you do or don't do, who you are are who you aren't? are you one of those that Jesus said was blessed (the poor in spirit, those that mourn, the meek, those that hunger and thirst after righteousness, etc)?
@cubeus19 salvation need not be confusing at all: it is really as simple as this: Are you trusting on the Lord Jesus Christ for all that you need, especially your peace with God? Or are you trusting on something other than Jesus Christ.
Jesus said he is The Way, The Truth, and the Life. He is not A way, A truth, or A life. Jesus is the ONLY WAY, the ONLY TRUTH, and the ONLY LIFE. Does your heart say Amen? Then you know the way of salvation. IT IS ALL OF CHRIST. Is he your ALL-your everything?
John MacAuthur and R.C. Sproul are the best two preachers of this age ! No other to come near them in giving the plain word of Jesus Christ in everyday language that a man can understand !
i Give God's Speed to these two preachers !
There is some other than are close and they are Richard Bennett and Leonard Ravenhill !
@turtle4aire I agree with you. Pastor MacArthur describes beautiful pictures when preaching. He is truly blessed by God and helps many understand the Word of God. His humor is also very good. Do you go to his utube channel? So many wonderful sermons. Bless You
@WisetSerpent Yes, he sure does, & I love EVERY sermon on it. In the Search at the top of the screen plug in John MacArthur GTY .... go to any sermon that is posted by GTY, click on GTY & you'll go to his channel. Maranatha
@kevinolenick Listen to what John has to say. You have to understand that not all who say "Lord, Lord" are going to enter His Kingdom. Many people don't even understand what "saved", "salvation", "faith", "Jesus", mean. Many churches are "clubs". Membership affords you special treatment. Yoga classes, kindergarten, inexpensive child care, carnivals in the parking lot, bingo, and many other shindigs. To be "one with Christ", to love Him with all your heart, are just 2 of the requirements.
This is one of the most sickest, perverted, twisted, attack on the believers Helmet of Salvation and Armor of GOD. Wow. Washerucess, Calvinist, TULIPS and the like never know if they are ever saved even when they may think they are one of the elected they are still not sure so they "perservere" still not knowing if they are. I have a video that exposes this religous spirit and false doctrine for what it is. All those justified by faith in believing Jesus Christ KEEP UR ARMOR ON PLEASE!
"But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."
@fasteddie389 Remember John's concern is that people ''hear'' the truth, he doesn't care about their feelings, he cares about their salvation. Read 2 Corinthians 7:10-13.. it talks about godly grief and it how it turns us to Jesus. ''offend'' in the verse your talking about would be if I claim to be a christian and have friends that are baby christians and my lifestyle totally contradicts what I preach. If John McArthur were to go get drunk, that would be offensive and a stumbling block for us.
the question that needs to be answered for assurance of salvation is: what is the strong foundation on which your hope is resting? is it resting on a decision? how much you pray? how much you read the bible? how often you share the gospel? or is all your hope on Christ, the Author and Perfector of faith? Are you believing in Christ alone? or are you believing in Christ plus your works to save you?
@HermitintheRain If you are truly trusting in Christ alone you have all the assurance that is needed. That complete trust will be evident in the fruit that flows through and in your life. Many try to manufacture those fruits as a means of assurance. But those who are born of the Spirit are finding that all those fruits are occuring by the work of the Spirit in and through you, and not by the efforts of man to produce them themselves.
@HermitintheRain You will also joyfully confess and praise the Lord in recognizing how all that you have-your hope, your faith, your love, your peace, your everything that is worth anything-is all by the grace of God the Father who, according to his sovereign will, has determined and is accomplishing his purpose of grace in your life in every respect, and in every detail.
@HermitintheRain At the end of it all-as the Holy Spirit pointed out at the end of Romans 8-if our hope is in God, our trust in Jesus, we have no reason to not rest in assurance of salvation. But if we, in anyway, are putting our hope in what we do-in praying, reading the bible, going to church, making a decision, witnessing, helping the poor, etc-we have every reason to be filled with anxiety and worry about our souls.
The righteousness of Christ Atonement comes from the effectual death of Christ.It is not the building but the foundation.Christ will save. No person will be lost who is elected.Though foolishness will be preached Christ is the one who saves,method may be deplorable but Christ is never deceived
McArtur like so many Americans is deceived because he believes Bin Laden and Alqaeda were responsible for the collapse of the twin towers and Building 7. Come on John check it out from the expert architects and structural engineers for 911 truth. Nano thermite explosives residue found in WTC dust.
I want to tell everyone out there is if you are having problems in your life and everything you have don is not working then you need to give it to the lord.
Because let me tell you that when I gave ny problems to the lord I didn't have to worry any more about them. It dosen't mean that you won't fall down we well all
Ways do that because everything is not good allt he times when you fall down you depend on god to get you up thats fath Jerry
What MacArthur isn't telling you is that Protestantism itself is built on sand. "Sola Scriptura" (Bible Only) and "Sola Fide" (Faith Only) are false, unbiblical doctrines.
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Christ didn't found 30,000+ squabbling denominations that cannot agree on anything. He founded ONE Church (Matthew 16:18).
Yeah, I can say from personal experience...Before God saved me, I worked in the office of a Word Faith church. We had a huge food ministry and very devoted passionate members in the church.. but a different (counterfeit) gospel was preached. I fell into a works based thing, prayed, read the bible, changed diapers in the nursery, tithed, named and claimes, etc...but was a false convert-ON STAFF!
FERRAGAMOS!!! If they are damned they damned themselves Jn 3:18.
My passion is toward those who believe!!! I am a gentlemen when it comes to negative volition as it relates to sharing the gospel, teaching doctrine, or dating!!!
I don't work myself up over what other people choose to believe. They have freewill. They have the right to go to hell. God is a Gentleman!!! It isn't his will that anyone perish; however, the sovereignty of God coexist with the freewill of man!!!
It doesn't surprise me or shock me to hear of all the nonsense people trust. Darkness = Darkness!!!!
My only responsibility is to present an accurate gospel and to study and teach doctrine!
Jesus doesn't know unbelievers!!! He doesn't have time for them, nor do I. They have negative volition toward the truth! I have preached circles around them to no avail!!! Leave em' be. Focus on those that are positive to toward the gospel. God has predestined us all. Which simply means that in eternity past he knew who would be positive and who would go negative and he provided grace for both. I don't know all that!!!
Personally I don't do anything about them, they are in darkness or in a perpetual state of carnality. They do not understand spiritual things. It is impossible for them to comprehend them because they DO NOT BELIEVE!!! I DUST OFF MY FERRAGAMOS AND KEEP IT MOVIN'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unbelievers are anyone who doesn't believe the Word of God. Because of their unbelief that cannot begin to understand it because it is spiritual phenomenon - they are not spiritual (pneumatikos) I Cor. 2.
I wish you would study 1 Cor. 2.. I think you would better understand that there are only 3 kinds of people, 2 of which are believers. Study that text in the Greek or with a New Scofield Study System.
Unbelievers are in utter darkness - TOTAL DEPRAVITY!!!
Constantine made Christianity popular for political reasons! As I stated previously, the power of the Word was hidden from those who are not spiritual 1 Cor. 2.
Paul says that those who defile the temple (false prophets) will be exposed and destroyed.
No one at the moment of salvation is required to ask forgiveness for sins. The fact is, sin is not an issue for eternal salvation. All sins were judged on the cross. Sin only becomes an issue in the temporal life of the believer 1 John 1.
I have a problem with the term "authentic born again". At the moment of salvation everyone is spiritually dead. One is totally oblivious to the 40+ things the HS does in that moment. At that moment all change is spiritual not temporal.
That is the dilemma. While it is every believers responsibility to search the scriptures, we have a severe lack of Doctrine be taught from the pulpit.
The tares are simply unbelievers. This is the reason why Jesus spoke in parables Matt.12.
There are those who reject the gospel but try to use it's power for their own purposes. That is the reason the gospel message was hidden.
There are believers who cannot understand spiritual things because of carnality. Thus they will never grow and be fruitful. There rewards will be wood, hay, and stubble, all of which will be consumed by fire.
@john146only Nonsense. There is no one experience that can transform someone who was spiritually dead. However, one can make a decision once to believe the gospel message and be eternally secure forever!!!
I'm starting to get the sense that you like to judge whether people are real or not. I think you are wasting your time. There are only believers and those who reject Christ. They can reject Him simply by not believing the gospel message, or adding to the gospel message, or changing it - rejecting it nonetheless!
There is no system of works or penance. God does all the work in regeneration. God does all the work in maturation through the believers faith in the Word.
Judas had an earthly agenda. He wanted to expedite the millennial reign of Christ and bring about what he hoped would be a militaristic kingdom of the Messiah.
Isaiah was talking directly to the Jews just as Paul did in Romans Chapters 10-12. The Jews did not believe the meaning behind the rituals. No faith in Christ = No salvation!
I do however admire the courage John has to not coward in his personal convictions and his willingness to admit when he is wrong (doctrinally) like he has many times. I do not like the controversy he tries to create by overstating his dogmas for marketing purposes. That is really perceived as legalism!
John is a legalist who does not understand grace. Spiritual maturity is the issue for the believer. Believer's are not maturing-Pastor's are not prepared to teach doctrine. Salvation is a work of God, alone. Feeling sorry and guilty for sin(s) does not add anything to it. Faith alone in Christ alone-God does all the work. So then the motivation of the believer is to grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ- study and believe the word of God. This is what leads to spiritual maturity.
@eche73 Though, if someone is truly saved, they will grow. Growth is the evidence of salvation. He asking us to test ourselves. To see if we have truly known God. For eternal life is to know the one and only God.
don't get what you mean by truly saved? Either you're a believer or not. Growth isn't the evidence of salvation according to Paul 1Cor. 3:1 one can be saved and never grow up! to say that person was never saved contradicts scripture! thus they are called carnal Christians - they are Christians nonetheless.
4:25 to 4:44 very true. Many may actually try another religion. A disappointed catholic may get angry and say they're now buddhist, etc.
A born again believer knows there in no free agency in Christianity. Praying to the Jesus of the Bible in good and bad times shows you're not only on the Right team, but the Only team.
You were not a christian at any time, you just went to try & infiltrate the church with your B.S. When Becky Fischer, the Jesus Camp & Westboro Baptist Church spoke out against your kind of behavior, YOU WENT ON ATTACK!! Get over it!!! Many are wrong in their thinking, THANK GOD not all take your twisted approach to finding a solution!! Stop lying to yourself. Christ doesn't turn anybody OFF! People like you do!!! Repent of ALL your sins or BURN in HELL!!
Maybe U are a Satanic plant here to cause a negative response to gods word.You have not the study of God's word that John has so why do you talk SHIT???????
"Don't stall the thread. " Don't act like a drill sergeant. I don't take orders from you. No, the transition was not dishonest. Rather, it was excessively kind, including myself as one who sometimes gets in trouble from assuming. The Bible assumes god, of course, in precisely the same way the Qu'ran assumes god, and the Iliad assumes Apollo. That's who the myth is ABOUT. That does not make it true. Invalidating the book invalidated YHWH. And the book is invalid.
"The Bible doesn't "prove" God, it assumes God." And we all know what happens when we make assumptions. The ONLY authoritative source of information about YHWH is the Bible. And the Bible is filled with error, absurdity, and incongruence. Such as the flat earth, the geocentric solar orbit, talking beasts, humans made of dust, and ridiculous creation sequence. Quoting the Bible to prove the existence of God is exactly like quoting JRR Tolkien to prove the existence of Hobbits. Exactly.
"you're attempting to illustrate Reformed eschatology" "because he's a Reformed theologian." "doesn't even apply AT ALL to Reformed theology. " Paulomycin The evidence is that your particular DIVISION of xianity is more important to you than xianity or even Christ. You're one of those Paul was speaking to: Now I beseech you, brethren.. that there be no divisions among you... every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. Is Christ divided?
"Statistics is social science and not real science" Statistics are often abused, for sure. Just like scripture. I took 2 years of Stats courses in university and I have been a medical researcher. I'm pretty good at spotting manipulative stats. As a counsellor I have also dealt face-to-face with the problem I am talking about here. I have the knowledge to state that christian kids have a higher suicide rate than nonchristian kids. Now that you've tossed your stone do you have something to say?
I don't believe that for one minute. Your research is flawed if the research is even real. Tell me where you got your research because I can not find anything like it.
"Theotoxins are not scientifically proven." Actually, they are. I am a retired counsellor, specializing in Substance Abuse and Family Violence. If you will examine the statistics you will see that christian kids have a higher suicide rate than nonchristian kids. And I think it's very easy to see why; the perpetual instilling of fear and shame and guilt and threats. Plus, of course, the forfeiture of integrity necessary for the required social posturing. Very toxic stuff. Which is why I'm here.
"christian kids have a higher suicide rate than nonchristian kids"
LMAO ... you can`t be serious.
i assume by "christian kids",you mean everyone who professes to be christian.hell,if that`s the case then sweden is a christian nation!
the REAL truth is that NON religious people are BY FAR more likely to kill themselves than religious people.there are bridges in scandinavia that are famous for suicide jumps!
it makes perfect sense that atheism would lead to depression.
if you want to compare american kids with american kids,fine.what you conveniently leave out is that what you call "christian" kids are not necessarily PRACTICING christians.
if you compare PRACTICING RELIGIOUS people with NON RELIGIOUS people then you will see my point.
same thing with prison stats.probably 90% of the prison population are probably christian but what percentage of them do you HONESTLY think were PRACTICING CHRISTIANS?
is the drug dealer on the corner a PRACTICING christian?
is the prostitute walking the streets a PRACTICING christian?
is the gangbanger on the street a PRACTICING christian?
i know many gangbangers and most of them would probably tell you they are "christian" when you and i both know that they haven`t a clue what christianity is lol.
so if you want to be intellectually honest then compare practicing religious people to non religious people.
um ... no.the bible CLEARLY teaches that ALL are sinners.
"are you a practicing christian?"
yes but that doesn`t mean i`m incapable of commiting sin.if by "christian" you mean truly living a christ like life on every possible level then i`m not a "christian".using that definition then NOBODY is a christian.
"why do you know many gangbangers?"
i live in a gang infested area.christians are PART of the world but not OF the world,remember?
ImagineFree "anyone who is not born of God cannot sin" Casper um ... no.the bible CLEARLY teaches that ALL are sinners. The Bible "whosoever sinneth, hath not seen him, nor known him. .. LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU. He that commmitteth sin is of the devil. Whosoever is born of God, COMMITTETH NOT SIN: for his seed abideth in him, and he CAN NOT SIN, because he is born of God." 1 John 3 Take your pick.
you really think a child who believes he has a meaningless origin and a meaningless fate is not going to have more bouts of depression than a child who believes he has a purposeful origin and a purposeful fate? that`s just intellectually dishonest.
"do you realize that a child (or adult) is most likely to fall into depression due to a sense of meaninglessness?" No, I don't "realize" this because it is simply untrue.. I was a pastor for 40 years and professional counsellor for twenty. I am speaking from personal, extensive, professional observation. Christians are more afraid of death and dying than unbelievers are, and christian (and chritianized) kids have a higher rate of mental illness and suicide than unchurched kids.
AMEN
proclub77 2 hours ago
Much needed message
nightwanderer1626 2 months ago
Pastor John has helped my Bible study so much! Thank you John!
midterngrades 2 months ago
Hi i'm Evangelist Maurice Ellis and i would like to share some good news today and that is for you to be saved and miss hell and go to heaven pray this prayer say: Dear Lord Jesus forgive my sins and come into my heart, I believe you are the Son of God who died and rose again from the dead after 3 days (matthew 27:63) Thank you Lord Jesus for saving me.amen. write me if you prayed this prayer or to support my giving ministry. Evangelist Maurice Ellis p.o. box 470405 Los Angeles,CA.90047
millionairenow15 4 months ago
@millionairenow15 your YT name says it all Maurice. Good luck with your new Church business
ilikezappa 4 months ago
Nah no way dude. John MacArthur Is preaching truth it's all backed up by scripture. he's not giving some smiley preacher peep talk he's dealing with the major issue of false conversions which lead many to hell.
mamainmancj 4 months ago 3
@mamainmancj I thought we just clarified that "it`s all backed up by scripture" carries no weight ,as "Scripture" can be shown to be wrong. "Backed up by evidence" is what you should look for ,otherwise your critical thinking skills are not working. Take your biblical blinkers off dude and read some other books.
ilikezappa 4 months ago
This guy is so full of crap. sad part is I think he beileves what he's saying.
lostbot101 4 months ago
If you read more books ,your spelling wouldn`t be so shit. I was making the point that Science is a good thing ,and the fact that religious people dismiss it is a testament to their blindness. I dont really want you to contract a plague , but am merely telling you that the people who worked out how to cure it deserve some respect , not some froth about being evil.
ilikezappa 6 months ago
John MacArthur is one of the few most bibically sound (in theology and doctrine) orthodox evangelical preachers in our time and I love listening to his sermons. God bless him!
MiniCakeification 8 months ago 7
@MiniCakeification Biblically sound , possibly . Mentally sound ? Far from it. He believes in Witchcraft
Back to the 14th century with you Mr MacArthur. We have moved beyond your folklore explanations of Creation.
ilikezappa 7 months ago
There is a more recent two-part sermon MacArthur also gave in 2007 (68 yrs old). You really should hear this. It's focus is on Matthew 7:13-27. Prior to the sermons it was on Matthew 7:13-14 which is a great preparation prior to the full context. So, visit gtydotorg for those free sermons (In search field type 80-325 To hear the two part series though listen to 80-326 and 80-327. These are sermons some of you may want to hear and then send on to others in your prayer that they hear them too.
earformusic 8 months ago in playlist ComeTell.Me
4:55 are pictures of the Electronic Gaming Magazine staff, lawls.
FearMonstro 8 months ago
A great pastor!!
ELOHIM7771 9 months ago 6
@Monstergoat66 Yes , the cost is abandoning man`s hard won empirical knowledge in favour of religious dogma that cannot withstand scientific scrutiny. The cost is the retardation of our rationality in favour of superstitious nonsense. The cost is reducing man to worthless wretched sheep in need of a totalitarian invigilator of everything you think or do , at the expense of our pride. The cost is accepting the drivel of intellectual lightweights like Macarthur in favour of better mentors.
ilikezappa 9 months ago
@ilikezappa I see your faith is in mans finite intellectual capacity. That seems irrational at best to put your faith in something as limited as mans understanding. The God you are opposing is infinite and tells us that as high as the heavens (the cosmos) are above the earth, so are my thoughts and ways above yours. Any intellectually honest scientist would not rule out God without observational emperical evidence. Empericist's and Naturalist's are short sighted at best and not omniscient.
hefty798 7 months ago
@hefty798 Hmmm , So why did you choose Jehovah , and not Zeus to believe in ? Please dont tell me it was man`s limited understanding , or considering the evidence that drew you to this conclusion ?
As a scientist , I dont rule out the existence of a creator. That would indeed be intellectually dishonest. I can , however, see that the Bible makes many factual claims which are wrong. So ,God possibly , Jehovah , no.
ilikezappa 7 months ago
@ilikezappa we believe in Jehovah and not Zeus is because of Jesus Christ-the Son of God. the life and teaching and testimony of Jesus Christ is the cornerstone of why we believe in Jehovah.
The Bible makes no mistake in anything it declares. Your conclusion that it does is based on either an invalid interpretation of the text in question and/or an invalid observation and interpretation of that which you say invalidates the claim of the Bible. the Bible is the litmus, not the other way around.
HermitintheRain 5 months ago
Hi Hermit. I have heard the argument that the Bible is inerrant and it is merely our interpretation that is at fault before. The book of Genesis makes the claim that trees were created before the Sun. Is this the wrong interpretation or is that how it happened ? Was there a Global flood ? This would certainly be at odds with the evidence. Noah`s Ark ? You are pulling my chain.........
ilikezappa 5 months ago
@hefty798 By the way , we can measure the size of the Cosmos now , and calculate its age. It kind of scuppers the cute Book of Genesis idea that the stars are pretty baubles created for men to look at or that the Earth is two weeks old , or whatever it is that the dogma you prefer would have you believe. Why you would prefer this book ,written by Iron age desert tribesmen who barely had the wheel , escapes me.
ilikezappa 7 months ago
@ilikezappa So how did you do it? what was your reference for it's age? Or are you just believing what you are told? Where is your technology getting you, Does it make you happy and give you love?
TheOringinalBRad 7 months ago
@TheOringinalBRad Pretty much believing what the scientific consensus is ,based on my conclusion that its methodology is the most reliable way of establishing truth in these matters. I didn`t go out there and date the rocks myself ,if that`s what you mean. It seems better to me than believing the Pastor ,who is unlikely to know shit about science and therefore will be just spouting unsubstantiated dogma.
ilikezappa 7 months ago
@TheOringinalBRad Does the fact that Humanity uses its rationality make me happy ? Of course. Otherwise I would be sitting in a cave waiting for the Gods to start a fire for me, instead of tucking into some pasta, with a rather fine bottle of Chianti. Dont knock science too readily my friend,or I will hope you contract bubonic plague and watch you pray for God to heal you. You will probably ask me for some Penicillin in the end I imagine
ilikezappa 7 months ago
@ilikezappa for knockiong science you will hope I get a plauge what kind of heart speaks of that, certainly no friend of mine...of topic bu t since I am here.... God wrote only one book the devil has written thousands trying to explain it. Yeshua is Lord stand with him.
TheOringinalBRad 6 months ago
@ilikezappa nothing more wicked in this world than ingratitude. it is in fact the root of all wickedness. from it man has robbed God of the glory and thanksgiving due to his mercy and goodness to the children of men; by taking to themselves the credit of such things as penicillin, and even a mind to reason to improve upon the creature-comforts that we have come to know today. an ingratitude which must make one willfully ignorant of God's goodness, which eventually leads to absolute reprobation.
HermitintheRain 5 months ago
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@ilikezappa nothing more wicked in this world than ingratitude. it is in fact the root of all wickedness. from it man has robbed God of the glory and thanksgiving due to his mercy and goodness to the children of men; by taking to themselves the credit of such things as penicillin, and even a mind to reason to improve upon the creature-comforts that we have come to know today. an ingratitude which must make one willfully ignorant of God's goodness, which eventually leads to absolute reprobation.
HermitintheRain 5 months ago
Dear Mr McArthur. I know I am saved. I am not a perfect woman I lose it from time to time. I confess my sins and repent. What does God do with my daily sins he forgets them. Can you imagine He God of the Universe forgets my sin. The Holy spirt convicts me. what must I do ? I must confess. repentance is daily for me. God knows my thoughts. my struggles , hopes and dreams. My sins are already paid in full. Jesus did that a looooooooong time ago. I am a sinner saved by Grace.
changeishere2008 10 months ago
@changeishere2008 Sounds good, now for encouragement read 1 John and Romans 6.
Shoots1978 7 months ago
Now granted, I have a lot of respect for McArthur, I completely agree with his views on Chrismatics and the Chrismatic movement. He really drives it home in those areas. But I wish he could be more clear on the issue of salvation and how a person knows they are saved. Since this issue is far more crucial. We can muddy the waters and confuse other non essentials but salvation we need to be as clear as possible and I wish he or someone here who knows his viewpoint could help clear things up.
cubeus19 1 year ago
@cubeus19 why is this so hard for you to understand??? Salvation is by faith and faith alone. romans 10:9, these men and denominations muddy up the water so much for people to simply understand the truth, that salvation is simply BELIEVING in Christ, accepting his work on the cross and just leave it there. It's by faith and only thru faith.
voiceofelijah2012 1 year ago
@cubeus19
Mr. MacArthur has sound points. I 've benefitted from his sermon often. However theologically he supports John Calvin's teaching. John Calvin was a well known reformer of the early church. He thought salvation is for God's few elect. basicaly few people get to be in heaven with Jesus. the rest of us are just tagging along.
if someone says they are saved and born again John McArthur probably will cross examine them and throw challenging questions like how?
changeishere2008 10 months ago
McArthur is acting like if you have "true saving faith" God will basically turn you into a robot who cannot commit any sin or make any mistakes. Is that even possible? Do any of you all know anyone living today who does not sin or screw up from time to time? Is McArthur sinless on a 24/7 basis? Doesn't he make any mistakes, because if he does he may be a "false convert" as well. Man, even a topic like salvation is so confusing. :(
cubeus19 1 year ago
@cubeus19 the difference isn't whether or not one sins as the mark of true conversion. but it is marked by the hearts relationship to that sin. Rom. 6:21 points to the experience of shame that is not evident in the unbeliever. there is an actual hatred of the sin in one's life. a loathing even that leads one to be as the publican who knows all to well the wretchedness of the sinner that he is. but if this is where it ended, it would not provide any assurance.
HermitintheRain 11 months ago
@cubeus19 as is concluded in Rom. 7 where Paul in recognizing the sin that was still in him found his only hope in Jesus Christ. many have guilt for sin, yet don't really want to be delivered from their sin, but only from the shame of it. if the Spirit has regenerated a heart with the seal of faith, that heart desires not only be cleansed of his guilt, but to also be delivered from the sin that is its cause. a faith, mind you, that lives in the hope found in Jesus Christ by his resurrection.
HermitintheRain 11 months ago
@cubeus19 the Holy Spirit through Paul tells us to: work out your own salvation with fear and trembling (Phil 2:12b). the false convert will be found to be putting his hopes on his changed life, his religious devotion, etc. the true convert, who indeed has found repentance in his heart-though he still sins, and is still a sinner-and makes every effort to walk in righteousness and holiness and love for one another; places no hope on anything he does or is, but puts all his hopes where it
HermitintheRain 11 months ago
@cubeus19 has always been-on Jesus Christ, the Rock of his Salvation. He will say amen, knowing that the Lord who is the Author and Finisher of faith will as Ps 138:8 declares: The LORD will perfect that which concerneth me: thy mercy, O LORD, endureth for ever: forsake not the works of thine own hands.
HermitintheRain 11 months ago
@cubeus19 and as the Lord has been showing me over and over again: I find, that no matter how terrible the times may be, especially when my sins are surrounding me (Ps. 49:5), and I find that my world to be like that of Jeremiah's as he penned Lamentations 3; that while i deserve every bit, and more of the troubles that afflict me, i can quietly wait upon the Lord as i am made to remember that his compassions fail not; that they are new every morning: great is thy faithfulness.
HermitintheRain 11 months ago
@cubeus19 when both Peter and Paul speak of the trial of our faith through manifold trials and temptations, there is often something missed by many readers. They mistakenly read it to mean that our faith is being made stronger. This is far from the truth. the faith that is given cannot be any stronger than it already is. what is being revealed to us through those trials is that that faith which is given to us will endure no matter what. If you wake up in the morning, and through your day
HermitintheRain 11 months ago
@cubeus19 you find that your soul is still calling unto the Lord, it is not because of your earnestness in calling upon the Lord; but upon the promise being kept daily, where the Spirit of God in you causes you to cry out, not just once a long time ago, but always and forever, each and every day throughout the day, Abba Father. This is not occuring in everyone. it is only occuring in those whom the Spirit has regenerated.
HermitintheRain 11 months ago
@cubeus19 you might be encouraged to notice that Peter's opening, and closing, exhortation in his 2nd epistle was that we would grow in grace, and the knowledge thereof-which is in our Lord Jesus Christ. He addressed it to those who had obtained like precious faith. notice he didn't exhort them to grow in faith, but in grace. as you grow in the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ-and begin to scratch the surface of the purity of his holiness and righteousness, you will soon see that you could
HermitintheRain 11 months ago
@cubeus19 never come even remotely close to that. it will in fact have the same effect on you as it did when Isaiah found himself before the throne of the Lord in Isaiah 6. you will be fearfully humbled in your soul at the contrasting revelation of Christ's holiness and righteousness and your own filthy sinfulness. it will be then, by the mercy of the Lord upon your soul, that you will see how it must be all of grace for there to be any hope for any one of us. it will destroy any delusions
HermitintheRain 11 months ago
@cubeus19 of our righteousness commending us in anyway towards God. it will not cause that heart to give up doing what is right, and pursuing that which is holy; but it will stop trying to think that any of that is securing peace with God; where as Isaiah later reveals that our peace is altogether dependant on what God himself does in us (Isaiah 26:12). That the peace we experience and have for all eternity is by the work of God in our soul. It is God himself who keeps us in perfect peace.
HermitintheRain 11 months ago
@cubeus19 are you at peace with God? on what basis do you rest that peace? are you resting it on Jesus Christ? or are you resting it on what you do or don't do, who you are are who you aren't? are you one of those that Jesus said was blessed (the poor in spirit, those that mourn, the meek, those that hunger and thirst after righteousness, etc)?
HermitintheRain 11 months ago
@cubeus19 salvation need not be confusing at all: it is really as simple as this: Are you trusting on the Lord Jesus Christ for all that you need, especially your peace with God? Or are you trusting on something other than Jesus Christ.
Jesus said he is The Way, The Truth, and the Life. He is not A way, A truth, or A life. Jesus is the ONLY WAY, the ONLY TRUTH, and the ONLY LIFE. Does your heart say Amen? Then you know the way of salvation. IT IS ALL OF CHRIST. Is he your ALL-your everything?
HermitintheRain 11 months ago
John MacAuthur and R.C. Sproul are the best two preachers of this age ! No other to come near them in giving the plain word of Jesus Christ in everyday language that a man can understand !
i Give God's Speed to these two preachers !
There is some other than are close and they are Richard Bennett and Leonard Ravenhill !
turtle4aire 1 year ago
@turtle4aire I agree with you. Pastor MacArthur describes beautiful pictures when preaching. He is truly blessed by God and helps many understand the Word of God. His humor is also very good. Do you go to his utube channel? So many wonderful sermons. Bless You
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 year ago
@JesusHoldMyHand1
John MacArthur has a youtube channel?
WisetSerpent 1 year ago
@WisetSerpent Yes, he sure does, & I love EVERY sermon on it. In the Search at the top of the screen plug in John MacArthur GTY .... go to any sermon that is posted by GTY, click on GTY & you'll go to his channel. Maranatha
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 year ago
@turtle4aire maybe the best Pulpit Pimps and liars LOL
martlut 1 year ago
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I know that Jesus had His Disciples take a survey to make sure everything is right.
I think He sais "You call upon my Name and you will be saved>"
John Macarthur is still dangerous.
kevinolenick 1 year ago
I know that Jesus had His Disciples take a survey to make sure everything is right.
I think He sais "You call upon my Name and ypu will be saved>"
John Macarthur is still dangerous.
kevinolenick 1 year ago
@kevinolenick Listen to what John has to say. You have to understand that not all who say "Lord, Lord" are going to enter His Kingdom. Many people don't even understand what "saved", "salvation", "faith", "Jesus", mean. Many churches are "clubs". Membership affords you special treatment. Yoga classes, kindergarten, inexpensive child care, carnivals in the parking lot, bingo, and many other shindigs. To be "one with Christ", to love Him with all your heart, are just 2 of the requirements.
JesusHoldMyHand1 1 year ago
It's a delusion? Wow! That's really calling the kettle black.
hyoidbone54 1 year ago
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This is one of the most sickest, perverted, twisted, attack on the believers Helmet of Salvation and Armor of GOD. Wow. Washerucess, Calvinist, TULIPS and the like never know if they are ever saved even when they may think they are one of the elected they are still not sure so they "perservere" still not knowing if they are. I have a video that exposes this religous spirit and false doctrine for what it is. All those justified by faith in believing Jesus Christ KEEP UR ARMOR ON PLEASE!
PureGraceEvangelism 1 year ago
Jesus' warning to John McArthur:
"But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."
Matthew 18 : 6
fasteddie389 1 year ago 2
@fasteddie389 Remember John's concern is that people ''hear'' the truth, he doesn't care about their feelings, he cares about their salvation. Read 2 Corinthians 7:10-13.. it talks about godly grief and it how it turns us to Jesus. ''offend'' in the verse your talking about would be if I claim to be a christian and have friends that are baby christians and my lifestyle totally contradicts what I preach. If John McArthur were to go get drunk, that would be offensive and a stumbling block for us.
BrianP1203 1 year ago
the question that needs to be answered for assurance of salvation is: what is the strong foundation on which your hope is resting? is it resting on a decision? how much you pray? how much you read the bible? how often you share the gospel? or is all your hope on Christ, the Author and Perfector of faith? Are you believing in Christ alone? or are you believing in Christ plus your works to save you?
HermitintheRain 1 year ago
@HermitintheRain If you are truly trusting in Christ alone you have all the assurance that is needed. That complete trust will be evident in the fruit that flows through and in your life. Many try to manufacture those fruits as a means of assurance. But those who are born of the Spirit are finding that all those fruits are occuring by the work of the Spirit in and through you, and not by the efforts of man to produce them themselves.
HermitintheRain 1 year ago
@HermitintheRain You will also joyfully confess and praise the Lord in recognizing how all that you have-your hope, your faith, your love, your peace, your everything that is worth anything-is all by the grace of God the Father who, according to his sovereign will, has determined and is accomplishing his purpose of grace in your life in every respect, and in every detail.
HermitintheRain 1 year ago
@HermitintheRain At the end of it all-as the Holy Spirit pointed out at the end of Romans 8-if our hope is in God, our trust in Jesus, we have no reason to not rest in assurance of salvation. But if we, in anyway, are putting our hope in what we do-in praying, reading the bible, going to church, making a decision, witnessing, helping the poor, etc-we have every reason to be filled with anxiety and worry about our souls.
HermitintheRain 1 year ago
The righteousness of Christ Atonement comes from the effectual death of Christ.It is not the building but the foundation.Christ will save. No person will be lost who is elected.Though foolishness will be preached Christ is the one who saves,method may be deplorable but Christ is never deceived
polopowers1 1 year ago
@polopowers1 very well said
shinesthrudarain 1 year ago
This is garbage. MacSatan is a deceiver! I would say he's deceived rather than saved. Salvation is easy. John 4:14.
jacksmack77 1 year ago
McArtur like so many Americans is deceived because he believes Bin Laden and Alqaeda were responsible for the collapse of the twin towers and Building 7. Come on John check it out from the expert architects and structural engineers for 911 truth. Nano thermite explosives residue found in WTC dust.
fish5133 1 year ago
@fish5133 You Obviously don't know the intentions of Islam extremist
Jiballin 1 year ago
My friends 07/01/10 3:32 AM
I want to tell everyone out there is if you are having problems in your life and everything you have don is not working then you need to give it to the lord.
Because let me tell you that when I gave ny problems to the lord I didn't have to worry any more about them. It dosen't mean that you won't fall down we well all
Ways do that because everything is not good allt he times when you fall down you depend on god to get you up thats fath Jerry
watkins49ok 1 year ago
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bizzarreangel 1 year ago
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@Dystopiologist "Christ didn't found 30,000+ squabbling denominations that cannot agree on anything. He founded ONE Church (Matthew 16:18"
Amen! And that sure isn't Rome who teaches against Biblical truth. Christ's Church consists of all true believers.
boan000 1 year ago
What MacArthur isn't telling you is that Protestantism itself is built on sand. "Sola Scriptura" (Bible Only) and "Sola Fide" (Faith Only) are false, unbiblical doctrines.
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Christ didn't found 30,000+ squabbling denominations that cannot agree on anything. He founded ONE Church (Matthew 16:18).
Dystopiologist 1 year ago
true!true!true God bless you John!!
myway2sheger 1 year ago 2
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DreamsofMajesty 2 years ago
Sadly, one of the very few real man of God.
Good job, Mr. McArthur..!!!
Yeshua bless you!!
Amen.Shalom
hammerandnails777 2 years ago 24
"Whe are at the point where we must come down from our religious trees & go hunting in the vast savannas of atheism." -- Reason & Evidence
miles101457 2 years ago
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eche73 2 years ago
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carolinahusker27 2 years ago
Yeah, I can say from personal experience...Before God saved me, I worked in the office of a Word Faith church. We had a huge food ministry and very devoted passionate members in the church.. but a different (counterfeit) gospel was preached. I fell into a works based thing, prayed, read the bible, changed diapers in the nursery, tithed, named and claimes, etc...but was a false convert-ON STAFF!
carolinahusker27 2 years ago 22
@carolinahusker27 I totally understand what you are saying. But Thank God that he saved me.! :)
koolchick592 1 year ago
@carolinahusker27 What happened then? Can you tell me how you know you got saved? I am very interested in listening to your story.
blicksflicks 1 year ago
@john146only
Hell is place for those who reject salvation through faith alone in Christ alone.
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only
one must never underestimate the power of God's grace even toward unbelievers. Even in darkness God is gracious toward the lost.
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only
Understand that it is our personal responsibility to grow in the grace and knowledge of Christ.
Studying the Bible is great, but Doctrine is imperative!!!
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only
FERRAGAMOS!!! If they are damned they damned themselves Jn 3:18.
My passion is toward those who believe!!! I am a gentlemen when it comes to negative volition as it relates to sharing the gospel, teaching doctrine, or dating!!!
eche73 2 years ago
Once again, Faith alone in Christ alone!
I don't work myself up over what other people choose to believe. They have freewill. They have the right to go to hell. God is a Gentleman!!! It isn't his will that anyone perish; however, the sovereignty of God coexist with the freewill of man!!!
It doesn't surprise me or shock me to hear of all the nonsense people trust. Darkness = Darkness!!!!
My only responsibility is to present an accurate gospel and to study and teach doctrine!
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only
Jesus doesn't know unbelievers!!! He doesn't have time for them, nor do I. They have negative volition toward the truth! I have preached circles around them to no avail!!! Leave em' be. Focus on those that are positive to toward the gospel. God has predestined us all. Which simply means that in eternity past he knew who would be positive and who would go negative and he provided grace for both. I don't know all that!!!
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only
Personally I don't do anything about them, they are in darkness or in a perpetual state of carnality. They do not understand spiritual things. It is impossible for them to comprehend them because they DO NOT BELIEVE!!! I DUST OFF MY FERRAGAMOS AND KEEP IT MOVIN'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only
Absolutely!!! They never Believed from the first!!!
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only
Not my point I was trying to help you with your point!!!
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only
Sure thing!!!
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only
Unbelievers are anyone who doesn't believe the Word of God. Because of their unbelief that cannot begin to understand it because it is spiritual phenomenon - they are not spiritual (pneumatikos) I Cor. 2.
I wish you would study 1 Cor. 2.. I think you would better understand that there are only 3 kinds of people, 2 of which are believers. Study that text in the Greek or with a New Scofield Study System.
Unbelievers are in utter darkness - TOTAL DEPRAVITY!!!
eche73 2 years ago
Sadly, many church buildings are filled with false converts.
carolinahusker27 2 years ago
@john146only
Read Jeremiah 3!
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only
Constantine made Christianity popular for political reasons! As I stated previously, the power of the Word was hidden from those who are not spiritual 1 Cor. 2.
Paul says that those who defile the temple (false prophets) will be exposed and destroyed.
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only
How can you tell if it's a whore according to Jeremiah?
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only
If they are fake, they are not Christians!!!!
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only
Sola Scriptura, Sola Fide, Sola Christos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
eche73 2 years ago 2
@john146only
I can show scriptures all day long! What is more important than that is exegesis and context!!! For that we need a better format!!!
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only
Jesus doesn't know "Unbelievers"!!! This is not complicated!!!
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only
Nope. And by the tag "New Christians" I don't want to know!!!
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only
"throwing scriptures"... that's my point!!! You are throwing scriptures like they are stones...
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only
No one at the moment of salvation is required to ask forgiveness for sins. The fact is, sin is not an issue for eternal salvation. All sins were judged on the cross. Sin only becomes an issue in the temporal life of the believer 1 John 1.
I have a problem with the term "authentic born again". At the moment of salvation everyone is spiritually dead. One is totally oblivious to the 40+ things the HS does in that moment. At that moment all change is spiritual not temporal.
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only
That is the dilemma. While it is every believers responsibility to search the scriptures, we have a severe lack of Doctrine be taught from the pulpit.
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only
The tares are simply unbelievers. This is the reason why Jesus spoke in parables Matt.12.
There are those who reject the gospel but try to use it's power for their own purposes. That is the reason the gospel message was hidden.
There are believers who cannot understand spiritual things because of carnality. Thus they will never grow and be fruitful. There rewards will be wood, hay, and stubble, all of which will be consumed by fire.
eche73 2 years ago
Salvation is a work of God, not a work of man!!!
eche73 2 years ago 3
@eche73 The deception is once a person is saved his temporal life is changed in that instant.
The truth is simply that one believes the gospel message and God does the work of eternal salvation, not the one who believes.
The believer is mandated to grow in grace and knowledge of Christ through the Word. Faith in the Word of God changes the believer's temporal behavior.
The problem is those who have been called to disseminate the Word are not prepared to do so.
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only
Hello, no one can be born again and be unregenerate!!! They can be carnal and spiritually immature.
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only Nonsense. There is no one experience that can transform someone who was spiritually dead. However, one can make a decision once to believe the gospel message and be eternally secure forever!!!
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only I was crystal clear. You are emotional and want to fight about nothing. You gave a bunch of Biblical references taken out of context.
eche73 2 years ago
Ephesians 2:8
I'm starting to get the sense that you like to judge whether people are real or not. I think you are wasting your time. There are only believers and those who reject Christ. They can reject Him simply by not believing the gospel message, or adding to the gospel message, or changing it - rejecting it nonetheless!
There is no system of works or penance. God does all the work in regeneration. God does all the work in maturation through the believers faith in the Word.
eche73 2 years ago
Faith alone in Christ alone!!!
eche73 2 years ago
Judas had an earthly agenda. He wanted to expedite the millennial reign of Christ and bring about what he hoped would be a militaristic kingdom of the Messiah.
He rejected the idea of a spiritual Kingdom.
eche73 2 years ago
Unbelievers!
eche73 2 years ago
Isaiah was talking directly to the Jews just as Paul did in Romans Chapters 10-12. The Jews did not believe the meaning behind the rituals. No faith in Christ = No salvation!
eche73 2 years ago
This text deals with fellowship not salvation!
eche73 2 years ago
@john146only Ummm...i think you worded this wrong. You accused God of wickedness.
Jimbo3783 2 years ago
I do however admire the courage John has to not coward in his personal convictions and his willingness to admit when he is wrong (doctrinally) like he has many times. I do not like the controversy he tries to create by overstating his dogmas for marketing purposes. That is really perceived as legalism!
eche73 2 years ago
John is a legalist who does not understand grace. Spiritual maturity is the issue for the believer. Believer's are not maturing-Pastor's are not prepared to teach doctrine. Salvation is a work of God, alone. Feeling sorry and guilty for sin(s) does not add anything to it. Faith alone in Christ alone-God does all the work. So then the motivation of the believer is to grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ- study and believe the word of God. This is what leads to spiritual maturity.
eche73 2 years ago
@eche73 Though, if someone is truly saved, they will grow. Growth is the evidence of salvation. He asking us to test ourselves. To see if we have truly known God. For eternal life is to know the one and only God.
Jimbo3783 2 years ago
don't get what you mean by truly saved? Either you're a believer or not. Growth isn't the evidence of salvation according to Paul 1Cor. 3:1 one can be saved and never grow up! to say that person was never saved contradicts scripture! thus they are called carnal Christians - they are Christians nonetheless.
eche73 2 years ago
My parent's pastor in Alabama is like what he said in 4:59.
whitedragonawa 2 years ago
"Man has never commited evil so fully and so joyfully as when they do it for religious convictions." - Blaise Pascal
miles101457 2 years ago
wow, you quote a man that became a Christian? thats weird.
prn72271 2 years ago
4:25 to 4:44 very true. Many may actually try another religion. A disappointed catholic may get angry and say they're now buddhist, etc.
A born again believer knows there in no free agency in Christianity. Praying to the Jesus of the Bible in good and bad times shows you're not only on the Right team, but the Only team.
vdvsoldat 2 years ago
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John is a rebellious criminal, influenced by SATAN to prepare his listeners to accept ANTICHRIST,
SABBATH (4th commandment) trashers are deceived and are as dangerous as Jim Jones.
John = 2 Cor 11:15, Matt 5:19, Ez 22:25-29
gettalifenow 2 years ago
RO 13:14 Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the sinful nature.
1apadilla 2 years ago
its better than cheap grace, its free
stonerolledaway 2 years ago 2
salvation is as hard as accepting a gift, tough
stonerolledaway 2 years ago 2
I love John McArthur's ministry
majesticgift 2 years ago 9
"Theism IN GENERAL is not ruled out for the sake of one book alon"
You seem to be the one shifting the goal posts.
I was discussing the Bible and YHWH.
I am not interested in the topic of theism,
as that is not the topic of this video.
Also, I am about fed up with your personal insults and insinuations and accusations, so either stick to the issues
or find another whipping boy.
Even in religious discussion there is such a thing as ethics.
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
You were not a christian at any time, you just went to try & infiltrate the church with your B.S. When Becky Fischer, the Jesus Camp & Westboro Baptist Church spoke out against your kind of behavior, YOU WENT ON ATTACK!! Get over it!!! Many are wrong in their thinking, THANK GOD not all take your twisted approach to finding a solution!! Stop lying to yourself. Christ doesn't turn anybody OFF! People like you do!!! Repent of ALL your sins or BURN in HELL!!
wayinoutreach 2 years ago
"You were not a christian at any time, you just went to try..."
What an imagination you have, wayout.
Accusations, lies, judging, tale-bearing...
aren't these sins?
Better put a stop to you hypocrisy
before your god has to punish you!
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
Why do people like you come to these sights? You are clearly NOT here to get any Spiritual enlightenment so go away!!
wayinoutreach 2 years ago
U are filled with hate.
187cisoULcRUNcHER 2 years ago
Maybe U are a Satanic plant here to cause a negative response to gods word.You have not the study of God's word that John has so why do you talk SHIT???????
187cisoULcRUNcHER 2 years ago
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
"The God of the Bible is only one of many possible Gods to consider. "
Were you wishing to discuss some other god?
Thor, perhaps, or Zeus?
You are making no sense.
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
"You made a smooth transition from "it" to "we.""
What are you getting at?
How can I refer to scripture as "we"?
You;'re trying to force duplicity into my words
that simply does not exist.
Enough with the attempt at character assassination;
do you have any evidence or logic
with which to refute my assertions, or do you not?
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
Perhaps we should discuss an issue
that can be readily examined
and that has enormous implications for the validity of christianity;
the ONLY authoritative source of christian doctrine is the Bible.
The Bible says the earth is flat.
And that the sun revolves around the earth.
And that humans are made of dirt.
And that snakes and donkeys talk.
And that animals appeared AFTER man but BEFORE woman.
Is this a book you want to rely on for your view of reality?
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
"Great minds discuss ideas.
Average minds discuss events.
Small minds discuss people."
-- Eleanor Roosevelt
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
Paulomycin
I discuss issues.
You discuss me.
Think about it.
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
And yet more tedium.
Have you NOTHING to offer besides insult?
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
Why does this seem tediously familiar?
I post some verifiable facts about the Bible
(which is the topic of this video).
You respond with insults, judgements, snide comments,
and never address the topic under discussion.
You seem to feel that throwing stones at me
is as legitimate an argument
as actually bringing a few FACTS to the table.
Why is that?
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
" then why are you floating that lame "dozen puppies" analogy?"
To wake people up to the reality behind this teaching.
Nothing "guilt-tripping" about it.
Jesus used the same technique, according to your bible.
There's no need for hostility and insults.
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
"Fake authority with fake statistics "
Your assumptions are erroneous.
And it's not about guilt-tripping,
that's the job of xianity.
I'm simply pointing out the fruit of your religion.
Jesus used to do that, you know.
And it made the (Reformed) Pharisees so angry
that they killed him.
History repeats itself.
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
Paulomycin
I keep talking about the ISSUE.
You keep talking about ME.
How about addressing the issues like an adult
rather than just name-calling?
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
I don't believe that for one minute. Your research is flawed if the research is even real. Tell me where you got your research because I can not find anything like it.
jhudd2 3 years ago
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
"christian kids have a higher suicide rate than nonchristian kids"
LMAO ... you can`t be serious.
i assume by "christian kids",you mean everyone who professes to be christian.hell,if that`s the case then sweden is a christian nation!
the REAL truth is that NON religious people are BY FAR more likely to kill themselves than religious people.there are bridges in scandinavia that are famous for suicide jumps!
it makes perfect sense that atheism would lead to depression.
CasperTheMeanieGhost 3 years ago
"bridges in scandinavia"
Yes, people love to quote the Scandinavian statistics.
Which is what we call a Red Herring.
I am not comparing different nations,
with different histories and standards of living
and ethnicities and expectations.
I am comparing North American kids with North American kids.
Christian kids have a higher suicide ate than unbelievers.
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
if you want to compare american kids with american kids,fine.what you conveniently leave out is that what you call "christian" kids are not necessarily PRACTICING christians.
if you compare PRACTICING RELIGIOUS people with NON RELIGIOUS people then you will see my point.
same thing with prison stats.probably 90% of the prison population are probably christian but what percentage of them do you HONESTLY think were PRACTICING CHRISTIANS?
CasperTheMeanieGhost 3 years ago
is the drug dealer on the corner a PRACTICING christian?
is the prostitute walking the streets a PRACTICING christian?
is the gangbanger on the street a PRACTICING christian?
i know many gangbangers and most of them would probably tell you they are "christian" when you and i both know that they haven`t a clue what christianity is lol.
so if you want to be intellectually honest then compare practicing religious people to non religious people.
CasperTheMeanieGhost 3 years ago
" if you want to be intellectually honest then compare practicing religious people to non religious people.'
Okay, let's see what your bible says about that.
Hmmm...
It says that anyone who is born of god CAN NOT SIN.
So how's that working out for you, Casper?
Are you a PRCATICING christian?
BTW, why do you know many gangbangers?
Your bible says not to hang out with those guys.
But then you're not a PRACTICING christian, right?
Please keep your sarcasm and anger elsewhere.
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
"anyone who is not born of God cannot sin"
um ... no.the bible CLEARLY teaches that ALL are sinners.
"are you a practicing christian?"
yes but that doesn`t mean i`m incapable of commiting sin.if by "christian" you mean truly living a christ like life on every possible level then i`m not a "christian".using that definition then NOBODY is a christian.
"why do you know many gangbangers?"
i live in a gang infested area.christians are PART of the world but not OF the world,remember?
CasperTheMeanieGhost 3 years ago
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Imaginefree69 3 years ago
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
you`re INTENTIONALLY misrepresenting that text and you know it.
CasperTheMeanieGhost 3 years ago
"what you call "christian" kids are not necessarily PRACTICING christians."
Let's say kids who believe the christian message
of guilt and shame and fear and threats
as opposed to kids who do not believe that nonsense.
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
you`re crazy ...
you really think a child who believes he has a meaningless origin and a meaningless fate is not going to have more bouts of depression than a child who believes he has a purposeful origin and a purposeful fate? that`s just intellectually dishonest.
CasperTheMeanieGhost 3 years ago
The xian teaching is of an omnipotent, omniscient being
who has been shown repeatedly to have no compunction
in wreaking the most heinous acts on huge populations
and who boasts of having built a horrible eternal torture chamber
and who has made the way very narrow indeed
and who has now taken a personal interest in YOU.
It's simply irresponsible to broadcast that poisonous idea.
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
"it`s simply irresponsible to broadcast that poisonous idea"
NO idea is more poisonous than teaching a child that her or she has a meaningless origin and a meaningless fate.that`s boderline child abuse.
do you realize that a child (or adult) is most likely to fall into depression due to a sense of meaninglessness?
CasperTheMeanieGhost 3 years ago
Imaginefree69 3 years ago