A Bright Future for Some

[lanceuppercut22]

how stupid. seriously, what more can I say?

[antshant1]

this is a very immaturish way to counter arguments ..... at least give some supporting data for your claims.

[Felixkalm]

It is the economically rational thing to do and if this was truly a free market, a shift to those industries would have happened long ago. But palm greasing lobbyists and interest groups seeking immediate returns have blocked this natural economic shift out of self interest, at a cost to the prosperity of posterity. Short-sighted politics and short-sighted business models, that is why America is doomed to fail.

[Felixkalm]

As for jobs. As anyone is the Western world is well aware the manufacturing job market is collapsing and millions of blue collar workers are and have been for the past few decades joining the ranks of the unemployed. There is massive potential in retooling existing factories and warehouses to accommodate the production of these new energy systems and putting these people back to work in competitive industries.

[Felixkalm]

Every region needs to consider plans that are specific to their context and competitive advantage, putting windmills everywhere and slapping solar panels on every house is merely a bandage and fails to understand the complexity of this issue and the dynamic approaches necessary to combat this energy crisis.

[Felixkalm]

Furthermore, one should question what are the alternatives and why have they been so willfully neglected by policy makers. A focus on solely wind and solar power by environmentalists simply provides reactionary parties with the material necessary to contend these projects as they have many limitations and themselves require enormous amounts of energy for production and maintenance. The oceans are the most powerful and consistent force on the planet and also the most untapped energy resource.

[Felixkalm]

The environmental impact is minimal and with further research will be eliminated. This technology has been used by man since the Roman empire and has been slowly embraced around the world in contemporary projects such as the Rance Tidal Power Station in France.

It is the responsibility of ever citizen to question who is propagating this propaganda and why. Who is advantaged from a continued use of these methods and who is disadvantaged.

[Felixkalm]

Tidal energy has been proven to be the most effective and reliable source of energy as it relies on the natural unfliching cycles of the tide. The production of these technologies will produce new job markets in the manufacture and operation of these energy producing ventures.

[Felixkalm]

The main point which is completely missed by this coercive ad is that affordable energy does not have to come at the cost of jobs or personal consumption. What is needed is a shift to truly reliable and renewable energy sources freeing ourselves of dependence on countries who hold monopolies on oil.

[ackanob]

he's not trying to remove affordable energy just raise awareness of its effects and inform us about cleaner renewable energy as opposed to dirty coal that increases greenhouse gases.

[nonsensemusic]

this is an attack on Gore and not on his cause ... very petty, libertarians

[phantomlimb33]

Oh come on.

This is making such bold claims that can't be supported. Showing images of babies, school children and people living in poverty just to tug at the heartstrings isn't enough to make the argument valid. Al Gore is not being selfish and hypocritical, if we don't help stop (or as much as we can do) global warming, then no one will be well off.

[balmung789]

Haha, you guys crack me up.

[flyamanita]

Sources of data plz. I don't get what's being argued here; is it that the quantity of CO2 is insignificant or is it that even if it is, there's a natural global warming occurring anyway? What was with the claim of a cooling trend in 1998 when temps shot up around 2000? And are people seriously using the last two years as an example that temperatures are going to drop? I dunno, I think I'd look at the 5 year average, or some other part of the bigger picture. These arguments are pretty weak, guys.

[SauceMystery]

flyam

"the claim of a cooling trend in 1998 when temps shot up around 2000?"

No year since 1998 has been as warm or warmer than 1998. Also, there has been dramatic cooling since early 2007.

[richcook99]

Al Gore's worth in 2000: $1-2 million

Al Gore's worth today: $100-200 million

Global Warming has been very, very good to Al Gore.

[Worsthoofd]

Which obviously, totally, proves that global warming is false.

[MagentaTrue]

yes, al gore came to do good and has done very well indeed (im being sarcastic)

[mout12]

Where's Algore now?

[MagentaTrue]

hysteria about "manmade" global warming grows to record size

[OgallalaKnowhow]

Come on. Can you not find anything better to post? You havent even responded to my criticism, and then you go and post the same copypaste again.

How can you possibly accuse people of 'not discussing the science'?

[lennhart]

Speaking of IQs ...Bush Sr's IQ of 98 is only marginally better than the Shrub's at 91. Both men are little better than MORONS! And the US economy is the proof of it. I got the stats to prove that job growth, income and wealth inequites are all WORSE under GOP regimes. Probably because the GOP has a much lower average IQ than the rest of the population.

[knick31]

Looks likes like you are under the spell of the whacky left. Time to up your meds my friend and by the way where are your facts?

[OgallalaKnowhow]

This video is absolutely absurd. Its a political smear, with nothing to do with any actual science or technology.

CEI offers no supporting data, does not refer to any specific bills, or programs, or anything at all!

Showing images of African society, as a means to contrast with the absurd lifestyles of celebrities, is completely irrelevant to American energy policy or anything that CEI is engaged with.

It is offensive to use the lives of these people to push a political agenda in America.

[CandelarioGalvan]

OgallalaKnowhow

Dude Al Gore is an american that is FUCK the shit out of idiots who buy his book.

I laugh my ass off everytime he is out of the US and idiots pay to see him

GO AL GO

The South has risen again. Stick it to them dumb ass Yankees

ha ha ha ha ha

[MagentaTrue]

The Al Gore twisty straw light bulbs have dangerous amounts of mercury in them and must be disposed of in a special manner

They are not supposed to be just thrown in the garbage.

So it cost more to dispose of them because:

firstly, separate handling in disposal

and secondly, they must use a "safe" method of destruction for them so that they don't do real harm (unlike the contrived harm of 'manmade' co2) to the environment.

Problem is people are throwing them in the trash. Good job Al Gore.

[MagentaTrue]

ANTARCTIC ICE GROWS TO RECORD SIZE

It is now at 16.17 million sq. km.

The old record is 16.03 million sq. km

And the Antarctic is still growing.

In Al Gore's predictions this wasn't supposed to happen.

[OgallalaKnowhow]

MagentaTrue: why would you continue to post the same message, right after being shown that it was irrelevant?

[OgallalaKnowhow]

You cannot look at the Antarctic as a whole. There are two major glaciers; the West, including the peninsula, and the larger East.

The West is definitely melting. Just type 'Larsen B' in google and go to the NSIDC page to see the collapse of a huge bloc of the peninsula's ice shelf. If all the west would melt, thats 6 M sea level rise.

The larger Eastern bloc is cooling, and expanding. It would take a temp rise of 30 degrees to start any melting there.

Total growth masks local melting.

[Vierotchka]

It grew only in surface, but not in thickness, so it is quite meaningless.

[tuttt99]

Al Gore DISGUSTS me.

[Vierotchka]

That's because you have no taste in men.

[tuttt99]

Oh, so you *like* fat, privileged, condescending, sanctimonious, conniving hypocrites that hold you in utter contempt.

That's sad.

[Vierotchka]

Nope, because I don't like you, and you fit that description to a T.

[tuttt99]

That's what I like about you so-called liberals. You're all so "tolerant".

[MagentaTrue]

Leni Refinstahl would be proud of the propaganda methods in this video

[Vierotchka]

Hear hear!

[MagentaTrue]

i was joking.

Al gore is pushing the biggest scam in the history of the world. That is not a joke.

His lies must be exposed.

[Vierotchka]

Pure, unadulterated excreta bovines.

[Timesobserver]

It's high time that Al Gore should be forced into a real, honest debate, as John Coleman suggested.

Why are Greenies the ones that tell us we need to keep an open mind on alleged man-made global warming but they usually end up belittling anyone who says that may not be the case?

I wrote a column on this and it's at:

timesobserver DOT blogspot DOT com

[jgardner422]

Also, why is this video pointing out the poor people in global south nations? It's not like the people who made this video really care about them anyway.

[Timesobserver]

Actually, neither is Gore if he's not doing what he's tell us to do.

[jgardner422]

this video is the biggest crock of BS. from a scientific viewpoint, this video doesn't address any critical issues except the loss of jobs. From a moderate standpoint, I find it funny that conservative videos like this bash this issue for creating job loss but conservatives are the biggest proponents of free trade - which cuts job because of labor immobility. This attack is very counterintuitive.

[DoctorOhh]

CEI is a libertarian think tank not a conservative group.

[Vierotchka]

Libertarians are conservatives, they are pot-smoking unbelievers but very conservatives. In fact, they are even worse than conservatives, their philosophy is one of total greed and selfishness and disregard for their fellow men and for future generations.

[Vierotchka]

Same same.

[steven3292]

free trade does not create job loss, having the highest corporate income tax of any legitimate country does.

I think it is 35%

[awrocksu98110777]

growapair is spot on. You know what, the next time drop a spiral lighbulb, im going to call the haz mat team. Them im going to sue the pants off the maker. Seriously though, you liberals are the biggest idiots ever. Were not buying your lies

[Vierotchka]

Funny how the majority of people with high IQs are liberals, whereas the overwhelming majority of people with low IQs are conservatives - as your post amply demonstrates.

[Vierotchka]

Proof that more and more long-distance commercial flights are flying with few or no passengers: w w w . dailymail . co . uk / pages / live / articles / news / news . h t m l ? in _ article _ id = 535229 & in _ page _ id = 1770 (remove all spaces)

[awrocksu98110777]

hope you good liberals can sleep at night, as each passing moment brings with it a slow, painfull, empty death. The death of 6,000 babies that slowly starved to death because your irresponsible policies led to their starvation. Is it compassion to have more love for a planet than its people. In return you destroy both,. You green nazis should be ashamed of yourself. By the way, god made a strong planet, and it will be here long after u.

[FasterThanYou321]

al-gore should be jailed for criminal fraud. He is a liar and quite likely mentally unstable. He flies around the world in private jets and I'm supposed to switch out my perfectly safe and reliable 50-cent light bulbs for $6 CFE's that contain mercury? Bullshit! Go to hell, al-gore! You're only fooling the liberal idiots...

[growapair]

Trivia.

51 million compact fluorescent light bulbs contain 2 gallons of mercury.Did the math.

google: "That Newfangled Light Bulb nyt".

Unlike traditional light bulbs, each of these spiral bulbs has a tiny bit of a dangerous toxin — around 5 milligrams of mercury. And although one dot of mercury might not seem so bad, almost 300 million compact fluorescents were sold in the United States last year.

12 gallons of mercury in 300 million new bulbs.

How much pollution to make them? greenasses?

[bigbillyb0b]

What is the goal of this? Just use more energy even if you pay more to save your job?

How is using renewable energy elimintating more jobs than it creats?

By the way...CEI-Dueshbags

[creater3b]

This is such bs, complete propaganda. Its misleading & deceptive! Renewable energy can be affordable (and in many cases already is) if people like the makers of this film would stop spending so much time, and money, fighting against the logical, healthy choice for the people & the earth which is renewable energy. Environmentally friendly technologies actually already benefited our economy and economies around the world & there is the potential for it to provide us with so much more economic game

[darkphotn]

Renewable energy ISN'T afforable. If it was, companies would stop using other energy methods and use renewable energy instead, because "renewable" means "don't have to pay for raw coal/oil/etc."

How much does it cost to build a 100 HP solar engine? About a million bucks. A 100 HP gasoline engine, on the other hand, costs $2,000 or so. Affordable my ass.

[Vierotchka]

There are many affordable technologies for renewable energies. Take a look around at earthship dot net

Spreading the lies you wrote is doing a great disservice to humanity.

[Vierotchka]

Oh, ever heard of Brown's Gas?

[Ellit61]

Ok, these people maybe right about everything they tell. BUT: Do they offer a solution to the problem? NO, they don't. They're just saying, they NEED ENERGY. Yep. Of course, we all need it!!!

But fact is, that energy sources are limited and we have to live with that now and in the future. So we must embrace any alternate source of energy. But this spot says nothing about that. It's just wanting...LOL

[westory]

There is no one lower than the greed heads that tell big lies like this about who is killing the planet. But living modestly is the only way to reduce one's impact, and a Lear is not modest. A Hummer is bad, but that doesn't mean a Prius is good; just less evil. Speak truth and I'll applaud. Start bicycling and I'll cheer.

[BelieveIt1051]

Great commercial and message, bad narrator. Couldn't they find someone who does sound like a geek with a hint of Kerrmit The Frog?

[Vierotchka]

Al Gore also has covered his mansion with solar panels and is not using any electricity from the grid but feeds electricity INTO the grid, so he can use as much of the electricity his solar panels produce as he wants. All the Gore family's cars are hybrids, too. I hate the liars who spread such mendacious and slanderous stories about Gore just because they don't want to make the necessary sacrifices and changes to their wasteful, profligate and destructive (to most of the world) lifestiyes.

[Vierotchka]

Ooops! That last word above should read "lifestyles".

[golfboston]

LOL... I can just picture Tipper dropping off Algore in their hybrid at the airpoort as he jumps on his private lear jet.

[Vierotchka]

A lear jet uses less fuel per passenger than does a commercial passenger plane, so he is minimizing his carbon print by using a lear jet rather than commercial flights.

[Vierotchka]

Taking a private jet, Bombardier Learjet 45 Super-Light Business Jet.

* Normal cruise speed = 846 km/h

* Fuel consumption at average cruise = 579 L/h

* Passenger capacity = 9 (max)

* Fuel consumption per km = 579 ÷ 846 = 0.684 L/km

Thus, CO2 emission rate = 0.684 x 2.580 = 1.766 kg/km

(L = Liter, km = kilometer)

[Vierotchka]

Taking Boeing series

a) 737-400

* Cruising speed = 809 km/h

* Fuel consumption = 2377 kg/h or 2935 L/h (kerosene density = 0.81 kg/L)

* Passenger capacity = 168 (max)

* Fuel consumption per km = 2935 ÷ 809 = 3.628 L/km

Thus, CO2 emission rate = 3.628 x 2.580 = 9.360 kg/km

[tennis0034]

Vierotchka, Don't agree with some of your numbers (max capacity on a 737-400 is actually 188, not 168 you say), you forgot to divide the fuel consumption per km with the number of passengers. Using your own numbers (again, think they're suspect): Learjet:0.684L/km/9 passengers = 0.076L/km/person 737: 3.628L/km/168 passengers = 0.0216

So the 737 is still at least 3 1/2 times as efficient as a Learjet (per passenger mile)

[Vierotchka]

I don't know if you're aware of the fact that many commercial flights from the US to Europe are half empty. Recently, an American Airlines from the US to London carried only five passengers. Also, because of price hikes due to the price of oil, fewer and fewer people in the US are traveling by air. So, ultimately, a Lear Jet, on average, uses less fuel than a commercial passenger jet, per passenger.

[ransdawg]

You will do anything find anything say anything to defend your savior

[Vierotchka]

I don't have nor need a saviour, I'm not a conservative.

[tennis0034]

Vierotchka, While you describe an antecdotal case of the American airlines flight, the vast majority of flights (both domestic and international) are completely full -- and it isn't in the airlines interest to fly their planes empty (they will normally cancel flights) -- I continue to maintain that flying commercial is much more economical than with a private jet

[Vierotchka]

They used to be, but not any more. The number of people flying to the USA has dropped considerably because of Bush, and the number of people flying out of the USA has also dropped considerably because of the collapsing dollar.

[Vierotchka]

Here is the proof that more and more long-distance commercial flights are flying with few or no passengers: w w w . dailymail . co . uk / pages / live / articles / news / news . h t m l ? in _ article _ id = 535229 & in _ page _ id = 1770 (remove all spaces)

[DoctorOhh]

The fact that he is flying is NOT limiting his carbon footprint.

The biggest lie I hear and I'm tired of, is folks saying CO@ is a pollutant. What I exhale is not a pollutant.

Clean coal technology is here today and can easily last 200 years. Most likely a natural transition to a better energy source will occur within the next 50.

All this world catastrophe alarmism is just the politics of fear attempting to sway folks toward a global redistribution of wealth. Backdoor socialism.

[Vierotchka]

I haven't heard anyone say that CO2 is a pollutant. It is, however, a greenhouse gas, and human activity has dramatically increased the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. It is not a pollutant, but I defy you to breathe nothing but CO2 for a few hours.

Clean coal technology is not all that clean, and it is extremely expensive. Furthermore, were it to be generalized globally, it might last 200 years, but we would have run out of coal long before that.

[lennhart]

You are correct. Greenhouse gases are natural components of the atmosphere, carbon dioxide and, therefore, NOT a pollutant. However, C02 does --as you say --contribute to the greenhouse effect. A little warming is a good thing. Without CO2, we might all freeze to death in a world made unlivable at about uninhabitable at an average of about −19 °. But a lot of C02 is just as bad. We might all cook.

[TheSharpenedPen]

Water vapor makes up 95% of the greenhouse gases. CO2 contributions from humans cause 0.117% of the greenhouse effect. This is insignificant! Even w/ complete adherence to the Kyoto Protocol, or worse still, the elimination of all human life from the planet, we would have an insignificant impact. CO2 emissions FOLLOW global warming trends because CO2 is an indication of more LIFE on the planet - possible due to warmer temperatures. However, did you know that 2006 and 2007 were COOLER than 2005?

[MagentaTrue]

TheSharp

it's not 0.117. It's 0.017. probably just a typo by you.

The temp drop in 2007 was a record in temp drops. The cooling is supposed to continue.

[MagentaTrue]

there has been a cooling trend since 1998

[TheSharpenedPen]

Thanks for clarifying that. Our contribution to Global warming is ludicrous. This is a scam designed to establish what they call "global governance" & "civil society". If mankind is responsible for global warming, given our minuscule contributions, then that means that the earth's ecosystem is incredibly fragile. It would also mean that there is no way in hell that we could ever hope to turn the trend around. Luckily, we're not the cause and the earth is already cooling.

[superlulucake]

our ecosystem IS incredibly fragile

[SauceMystery]

Peer-reviewed :

showing computer climate model outputs not matching observation, in other words, what the computer models predict isn't happening :

Complete PDF available to read free online. From abstract :

"These conclusions contrast strongly with those of recent publications... Copyright 2007 Royal Meteorological Society.... Received 31 May 2007; Accepted 11 October 2007"

search :

International Journal of Climatology of the Royal Meteorological Society [DOI: 10.1002/joc.1651]

[Vierotchka]

As for your last paragraph, that is simply the latest and totally mendacious buzzword from the greedy and selfish right, it reflects very negatively on those who utter and spread it.

[master0909]

Actually, he's on the board of that firm. Anything that helps renewables will not only help him, but also everyone else involved (Google, Microsoft, etc.). That's just the same free-marketing thinking CEI supports. So... what's your point?

[RayLRiv]

OK - our fossil-fuel derived energy supplies are dwindling and demand is spiking prices.

The logical solution - NUCLEAR power!

[master0909]

right... then that's just transferring one pollution for another. Not to mention the time it takes to construct one plant, the high cost, the lower jobs developed (compared to other renewables).

[golfboston]

Wake up, sheeple. "Global Warming" is simply a Trojan Horse for socialism.

Hiding behind every Al Gore-approved Green Idea is a big FAT TAX.

[master0909]

If you like low taxes, move to any third world country. I'm sure their lack of social services have something to do with low taxes.

[master0909]

You want low taxes? Move to a developing country. I'm sure their lack of social services have nothing to do with taxes... and don't say it's because of improper governance. Governments can't exist without an income.

[Vierotchka]

Pure, unadulterated excreta bovines.

[Deucebot]

So wait - who wants to limit affordable energy? That's a specious argument. What does that even mean? Dirty coal?

Doesn't Gore just advocate cleaner energy through new technology? I'm guessing that 3rd World peoples will be much more devastated by climate change than they would restrictions on the use of coal in the United States.

Also, why a hit piece on a former Vice President who is entirely uninvolved in politics right now?

Shameless.

[drook52]

The law of unintended consequences applies here. Just as we've caused food prices to sky-rocket by mandating very questionable ethanol fuel, the energy curtailment required to attain genuine CO2 reductions would have the result of limiting affordable energy. The unintended consequence of this issue would be more suffering in developing countries.

That is shameless.

[Deucebot]

The problem is that there is zero evidence to support that claim in this instance. What specifically has Gore advocated that would eliminate the ability of 3rd World countries to provide enough energy?

There are about 8 logical leaps required to get there. But, then, actual evidence doesn't appear to be valued by this crowd...

[Vierotchka]

Solar energy.

[tuttt99]

Solar Energy is an illusion. 1/2 horsepower per square yard is the most there is anywhere on earth. You are NOT going to run an industrial society on that.

If you try to sustain ten people with an "infinite" supply of water that can only deliver one gallon per day, it won't be long at all until the majority of them are dying of thirst.

[Vierotchka]

You are so wrong that it is quite risible!

w w w . scientificblogging . com /news/ making_water_from_thin_air

h t t p : // blogs .business2 . com/greenwombat / 2007/ 09/ solar-nation--2 . h t m l

Furthermore, whole towns are supplied with solar energy in France, among other places.

[jelink22]

Gore is trying to make it difficult to build the cheapest kind of power plants -- the one ones fueled with COAL. Poor countries can't afford more expensive energy sources, and ALL the other kinds are more expensive to build and operate. Solar and wind power are NOT cheaper alternatives. There: one logical statement, expressed three ways.

[master0909]

I don't even know where to begin... like for instance, stating that enviros want to limit energy access for third world. I don't exactly see what CEI is doing to help people in the third world. If anything, there are projects to improve their standard of living via solar PV and off-grid solutions.

What a stupid ad

[Vierotchka]

Hear hear. CEI has no credibility and is a collection of selfish greedy individuals who don't give a sh!it about their children's and grand-children's future.

[afkamistan]

Or they utilize other people's selfishness to create the get the best out of something.