@maxxthemerciless I would agree with you, except for one instance: women are (were?) expected to risk or lay down their lives for their children, if not their mates. Evolutionary speaking, it would be stupid not to do so...if the young can rely on the father to still care for them, well then your genes are passed on anyway. I see the truth in your comment, but it is still disheartening. If I do something for a person, it's exemplary, but you do the same and it's trivialized? Not in *my* book.
you should add at the end "A strong woman doesn't break down and cry after being criticized by Rush Limbaugh, and require a consoling phone call from the President of the United States because her feelings were hurt".
@shamelessfootfucker Not at all. Strangely enough I don't dislike compliments if they are sincere, and I like the fact my friends don't consider me "mixed company". I thank you, sir, for recognizing that all women are not total bitches, even if 98% of them are :/
@hoppingmadmedia Also, I don't want to blow my own horn, these were little things that I've done. Taking a pay cut so my friend with a family didn't have to. Paying for dinner or the movie we saw. Watching their pets for free. Sleeping on the floor so they could have the bed. These are the things that define true friendship.
@hoppingmadmedia Unfortunately, I am only 25yr old and may be a bit naive, but I thought that most people were raised this way...Isn't the saying "respect your elders" and "needs of many over needs of few" still true? As all my friends are both male and at least 8-10yr older than me, it just makes sense that I would make sacrifices for their benefit...
@manwomanmyth But that is unfair, to both men AND women. Men should not be expected to always make sacrifices, b/c most men already make a lot. Women *should* be expected to make sacrifices, as they are adults and can support others the way they are supported. This, in my opinion, is why feminists have destroyed society; they are like children who want pocket money but don't want to do the chores to get it!
@manwomanmyth In your analysis of the Dr. Who scene, you make it sound like women have no sense of honor or can think of anyone except herself. Maybe I'm just weird, but there are many times I've given either physical or financial aid to my male friends, when it wasn't in "my" best interest. But as it helped my friends, I sucked it up and dealt with it.
@thylacinegurl Women are not the same as men and behave differently to men as a rule, especially in life or death situations. Women are less willing and less wired to self-sacrifice, Nature wanted it that way and it is supported by both men and women.
That's why the titanic went the way it did and it's why, to this day (and indefinitely into the future) it will continue to be 'women first'.
@manwomanmyth True, and this theory supports why men willingly go to war, allow themselves to be stripped of parental rights and roll over in divorce allowing women to take more that they deserve!
@thylacinegurl manwomanmyth is correct in saying that, as a rule, women behave completely differently in life or death situations and are less willing to self-sacrifice. However, it is commendable that you have "given either physical or financial aid" to your male friends. You say that you've done that "many times," but imagine if the "many times", were the times when you got away with *not* doing so, and that giving physical and financial aid was your constant life's duty.
@HoppingMadMedia When I say duty, I refer more to a societal expectation than anything. If you can imagine the heavy weight of this expectation being placed upon your for the entirety of your life, and those of your brothers and friends, and your father, and his father before him for generations, then you are beginning to scratch the surface of being a male.
@thylacinegurl you don't speak for the majority. Youre an individual. That's a compliment but considering youre woman, youre probably going to tke it as an insult.
@thylacinegurl The distinction, with you, however, is that nobody expects you to do it. Nobody expects you to sacrifice anything to anyone, let alone to men. The operative word here is "expects." Women have no such expectation to do anything that doesn't involve their personal self-interest, and even then they're not expected to operate with honor. If a woman behaves dishonorably, we chalk it up to one of the privileges of being a woman. If a man does so, he's a scoundrel.
One more thing: I noticed a trend on TV, when I used to watch TV: Brave women initiating a relationship with a man, in a direct, pseudo masculine way. "Hey, let's go out. Now." Women will never do this with men they want to fuck. Ever.
I'm a man who likes to work out and all that, and I can't help but notice how SOFT all those women look in these video samples you used. "Woman = tougher than men, despite having no conditioning!" And I suspect some believe that on a subconscious level. Well, until shit gets real.
According to Newton, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. What that means is x amount of misandry results in x amount of misogyny. It is common knowledge that men are stronger, more intelligent, determined and persistent than women (on average).
What I'm trying to say here is that I don't believe this whole feminist movement is going to last too much longer.
Then I realized all of these examples (except for Buffy - Buffy is a good show) show idiotic and silly examples of women being tough. Also, your ultimate point (that women are never the heroes and need to earn respect to be a proper commander) is still correct.
I'm reminded of Ayn Rand saying she'd never, ever vote for a woman to be commander-in-chief of the entire USA's military. Damn right.
I have to laugh at everyone complaining that he's using clips from films. Of course he is, he's demonstrating the ridiculous way women are constantly portrayed as superior to men in the media.
So men think that they're better than women because they like to build armies, fight with each other, and create war and suffering? If women ruled the world then we wouldn't need all that shit.
Eh, have you ever heard of Margret Thatcher and a little thing called The Falklands War? You are so full of it. There is a video in this series addressing that exact point. War is fought over territory and women are just as, if not even more territorial than men, so you cannot assume that war would not exist if women ruled.
But today there are women in the armies! On their own request!
So far women were not allowed to go to combat duty on the frontline.
But women are pushing for that "right" that as female soldiers they also be allowed to go to the front and to kill men there! Why? Its man-hating Feminist BS again. To kill, to destroy, to fuck up the lives of men in general: that's the aim of Feminism, nothing else. Why do the women want to kill in war if it is not necessary for them?
@BoadieMcLeod ya~ because women never street fight each other over small, stupid issues, so of course if they ruled the world there would be nothing but peace.....NOT!
@BoadieMcLeod so are you saying that there is something inherent in females such that they cannot and do not engage in violence at the level of war? while i agree that demonisation of feminism is wrong-headed, i do think that there is a misandryous streak in western culture today
To all the people saying "if it showed a man beating up a woman, it would be misogyny..", why does everyone take movies so literally? It's good guy vs bad guy. If the bad guy is a woman, and the good guy is a man, fine, I don't think people would complain that he kicked her ass. Maybe the question is: why are there no female "bad guys"? (e.g. most recent Indiana Jones movie). Just a thought...
"Asking the Queen how to do an oil change" is a bad metaphor - the UK's Queen passed intermediate level training in car mechanics during World War II - an oil change would be nothing for her, probably even today.
People forget that if only a fairly well-built guy bashes a relatively frail woman, she will almost certainly be knocked out from the blow. The difference in muscular strength and physical ability to withstand blows is huge.
As funny as it is too see all these clips of the fantastical ass kicking super bitch strung together and realising how ridiculous they are, I must admit I loved Xena and Buffy. Plus that bit in Aliens where Sigourney fights the queen in the Digger was totally believable, so probably not the best example.
@Sambucca I wasn't referring to the idea that the clips themselves are ridiculous. I think it's ridiculous to use hollywood nonsense to prove a point. By that same token, I can take a bunch of alien movies to prove that life exists outside of earth. Do some real research: talk to real people. I see enough hollywood on tv.
But there's a difference between a film like Alien, which tells its story in a fantastical science fiction world where the scope of our reality is clearly stretched, to a show like 24 which is based in a considerably more realistic universe. Besides werther it is sci-fi or not, the fact that all the computer hackers and code analysts in these dramas are female is still laughable. However they are clearly scripted as females to make a statement.
Haha, bullshit. No she wasn't. Her praised accomplishment was merely a reiteration of a programme that she herself did not write. Go research a bit more outside of the patronising feminist websites that laud women for the most trivial of accomplishments.
I loved all the Hollywood crap showing men being filled in by women, a scenario that you rarely, if ever would see reversed. A man beating the dogshit out of a woman to the same extent would be seen as mysoginistic yet women are supposed to see these ultraviolent women as positive role models.
Part 1 was good but part 2 is terrible. I don't see the issue with have women as a strong lead or being able to hold their own. Women are equal so there should have the same roles right? Why is this bad?
The imaginations of Hollywood writers are subjectively influenced by hot social topics and the rise of the ass-kicking female is an obvious feminist statement. As ridiculous as these clips appear, they do subconciously infer that women are just as capable at fighting and saving the day, as their male counterparts. Most people glued to their TV screens don't have any exposure to the reality and become brainwashed by the lie.
This video has nothing whatsoever to do with the rape of women, but now that you mention it, I doubt women like you know what the reality of rape is at all, so brainwashed are you by the misinformation and manipulated statistics gathering of feminists.
@BoadieMcLeod in Canada, the levels of domestic violence between men and women is roughly equal. However, the incidents of womenbeating children is higher than men beating children. The incidents of serious injury due to domestic violence is higher when men are involved in the violence. So those are the general rough stats. (women studies.....)
the only reason we know is because this is mandatorily documented in Ontario and BC. Yay. In places where this isn't documented, the ratio "drops" (is not reported) significantly.
Ah, hah! Always funny how the most obvious examples elude one at first...
heroic female self-sacrifice, where is it? First of all, let's ask the necessary question: is there less of those because women feel more entitled and cowardly than men / because society somehow portrays heroism as a male trait? Or... because the men watching don't want a pretty lady to sacrifice herself (or die, for that matter), because a pretty woman is like a treasure, and nothing hurts more than seeing one die?
Here's a few more examples apart from X2 (and X3... kinda):
-The Matrix Reloaded (ironically, Trinity was more convincing when acting tough, rather than the "feminine" homely wife)
-Return of the King (half: Eowyn doesn't kill herself, but she knows she's fucked, and ends up horribly injured [pretty unconvincing acting there, by the way - but that goes for her entire performance])
-Alien 3?
-End of Days
-Buffy, a few times (although examples in which...
... the woman sacrifices herself TO SOMEONE ELSE (mostly a male villain; or maybe a religious ritual, i.e. Iphigenia), like in the 1st season, should be excluded, because it's a variation of the ancient "girl for the dragon" trope, and is submissive/misogynistic in nature; that one rather cries for MALE examples)
-Aaaaaand, of course basically anytime a female hero risks her life to help her fellow agents, or whatever - happened God knows how many times in Alias and the like.
Although, of course, in that case, you've got tha cognitive dissonance again - are you gonna bash the film for "portraying a strong woman", or complain about women not being heroic enough while all the men are willing to die for their team?
... issues in those countries are really limited to "having to wear black"... you know what, I've got a feeling that if you had to part with these delusions, your psyche might not take that well.
Yea, women in the ME are forced to wear black, the men have to take it up the ass. That's how it is.
Anyone still having doubts about manwomanmyth's position? One thing I can say is, it sure does suit his username better than he thinks.
Can't handle stress, can't handle combat, can't handle work, can't handle illness... yea, that's what that means.
And yes, there a tendency in INSECURE men to be afraid of "strong women". But that's just some.
Anyway, why am I even arguing against this guy?
Bottom line, anyone coming here in the belief that this is a channel "shedding light on gender equality without the distortions of feminism", is wrong.
Of course, feminism itself, at its best, already does part of the job, as the notion that patriarchy (male positions in power, the notion that men are tougher, stronger, or more violent) damages men as well (rape accusations, domestic abuse in the public eye, etc. etc.).
This guy's (manwomanmyth) position is: men are better than women.
Also, apparently this guy doesn't get that NONE OF THE EXAMPLES of movies in which female characters go around pwning everyone, actually claim that women are stronger.
Because main action characters are known to do that - they go around, pwning everyone. Main characters, and sidekicks.
Sometimes they're female, more often male, though.
So the only complaint should be that there are too few female "mooks" in the mook armies.
So, um, what, this guy's point is that women can't be physically strong, and he lists all these examples as "unrealistic portrayal" of strong women (compared to male action stars, that is).
So, what, the supposed "reality" is that it's unrealistic for a woman to be brave enough to walk towards a gun?
Or that all of these tropes are applied less to male characters (as I've just disproven above)?
It's not quite clear what his point is, but what's clear is that he's a crank.
Also, the 4:00 example again - it's a bit funny how he apparently doesn't "buy" toughness, or even experience with violence, unless the character speaks in a clichéd Southern half-whisper...
Nick Nolte's character in Tropic Thunder appears to be MADE to make fun of guys like this.
Also, "24" had some cases of "evil women threatening good men", although most of the villainnesses there were moles / assistants.
Ironically, that show was still mainly a dickfest - most of the...
... alpha villains were men (figures), as well as most of the action heroes.
Seems like convenient self-reaffirming position for this dood to take - if there are tough evil women, that's "unrealistic", and if it's too many men, it's because "misandry" says men are evil and disposable.
So the more weaker, evil female characters, the more realistic, and less sexist, huh? Maybe I'm grasping at straws here, but this straw sticks out like a sore thumb in this video.
Men are more "believable" when playing "tough guy" roles, but the same stereotype seems to cause people to look away from female-on-male domestic abuse.
So... um... it's unrealistic to think that women could really pose a threat to their male partners, or... the false notion that women are weak causes us to take such claims less seriously?
One or the other! Preferably the latter one, though, as that's actually the sensible position to take.
Also, Elena Derevko from Alias was a very convincing alpha villain - dead-serious, and frightening.
Not as "feminine" as Lena Olin, and not one bit of a femme fatale.
Then, it had two other black villainnesses, both were "threatening men", but not sure how convincing they were - Gina Torres was way too cheesy to be taken seriously.
So, bottom line, is this dood's selective selection of clips worth anything? Maybe, but not terribly much.
Kinda ironic how the guy yelling stuff like "I would totally fuck you up and stomp a mud puddle in your ass" or believing in his own ass-pulled "abandoned daddy" theories, tells someone else to "get psychological help" - and that specifically for making more sense than him.
i think the only thing this video is saying is that there is a lot of misandry in hollywood, movies, the often-photographed (like models), celebrities, and other media. i almost never see man-hate anywhere in my family or the real world. when i do, it's just looked over or forgotten and seen as ridiculous.
@DannyBeeXV very often, and i think it's ridiculous and offensive towards men, just the way i feel about women and myself when i see women on tv and in movies portrayed like this. i'm totally baffled by it, always have been, even when i was young. i'm tired of seeing women seen as wimps unless they are superwomen. i have never behaved the way these women do, and i don't know one person who does. the few times i see it happen, they usually get a karmic slap in the face quickly.
@DannyBeeXV (continued) i implore you, men, understand that this is hollywood, not reality. i do though, think girls, beginning in teen years, are taught by movies and tv that they need to act like this (strong, independent, bitchy) but then later find out that that kind of behavior just does not prove fruitful. i am truly repelled by these women in tv and movies, and even more if they exist in real life. please don't lump us together, guys, there are decent girls out there.
@jennrichards84 These heroic women in movies are gorgeous for the same reason heroic men in film are gorgeous-they look good on camera and is part of what attracts people to watch these movies. Movie makers portray women as tough fighters in these films to attract more women to action films-and it's working. If you believe that women beating up men is a mans wet dream then you know nothing of men. Trust me. We do not dream of getting our asses kicked by girls.
At risk of raising a very contraversial subject: would you say that the ability and inclination to kill other humans is a male trait, i.e.: a man can handle being a killer (e.g.: your marine friend) AND a member of society while a woman in the same position is more likely to be a sociopath, i.e.: antisocial and sadistic, (not PERCIEVED as, but actually ARE). If so, would this be an extention of men having evoved to be hunters (opposed to gatheres), so killing is a more natural tendency?
@Taig32 "Controversy" is this channel's middle name.
Women and men have different abilities in all aspects: physical, mental, emotional. It so happens that in manipulating the world around us, men are more capable and more useful.
Be it building, inventing, designing, sustaining or indeed, destroying, men are the best equipped to do it.
The inclination to kill is human, the ability to do it 'well' is male. The exception is lethal violence against children: in this, it is women who shine.
@manwomanmyth Well doesn't that mean I was right? The inclination to kill children is sociopathic, since it is done out of pleasure, not to remove a threat.
@manwomanmyth Yes, better equipped to kill, but not necessarily "built for".
Men tend to be more geometric and application-oriented, women tend to be more abstract and personality-oriented. Women often focus on making each other feel better through problems. Men more often focus on fixing the problems themselves.
As such, killing goes against a woman's problem-solving methods, whereas men don't have much of an issue once it's established as a net good, like killing 1 to save 10.
@twooffour Understandable. Please note, I talk of tendencies, which by their own nature are simplified, yes. That wasn't my point. It wasn't about who is willing to act and who is lazy. It's simply about how the decisions are percieved. In computer terms it's like the same hardware and software, but one uses OpenGL, and the other DirectX. Same problems, similar solutions, different outlook.
EX. There was a study done on toddlers in how they solved a hedge maze. They were given one look of the map beforehand. They found that boys stored the image in their mind, and rotated it based on the position of the sun.
The girls looked for the key turning points, which direction to turn, and how to get to the next point. They used a network of landmarks.
Both are legitimate means of navigation and got the job done.
Maybe, statistically, these assertions are correct, but he said that "the ability to do it well is male". Not "somewhat more likely in men", but "male".
Um... no. A woman can learn a deadly combat style, kill people with weapons, and learn to "get rid of evidence", none of that is a male monopoly.
Dunno about fighting in armies much, but obviously, women are capable of killing in self-defense / defense of someone else / in retaliation without...
How well they'd be able to handle such an incident psychologically, is up to statistics, but obviously both genders can be affected by shock and guilt in the most various ways.
I noticed that Xena was this way before I even knew misandry, or male discrimination was a factual thing..
Every time any guy that wasn't submissive & had a perfectly NORMAL interest in the large breasted, provocatively dressed Xena was automatically a villain, and was generally played by an ugly or slobbering actor to put emphasis on how bad we Men are..
Its clear they make it their goal to put "masculine women" in films and TV. Just like its their goal to put Homosexuals in the spot light. Every TV show you see will have some reference to these, ie. a quirky character on the side who happens to be homo, or a man hater. It's to destroy culture and gender roles. This is why we have our present generation of mixed up people, who don't know who they are or how they fit in society. Hollywood and the public schools is raising us.
this video would be better if you used clips from Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Law and Order SVU, a show where it seems a woman gets raped every hour of every day in New York alone
To be honest I don't believe that females are the problem. They are a product of society - a society created by men and women, but is it necessarily that bad at the moment? Yeah women have more control, but men are still physically and mentally superior, we know that women control us we just accept it and move on.
Society has pulled the wool over both sexes eyes - it just so happens it is in favour of women at the moment.
Eh, I don't know about the whole TX thing. Guise of a woman, but it's a machine. It's not a woman. Sure, it's definitely to appeal to the politically correct feminist crap, but still, story wise, not a woman. lol
While in general I really liked the re-imagined BSG series, it always really annoyed me that Starbuck is not only the best pilot (fair enough, I guess, maybe) but in one episode featuring a prison break, she is ackowledged to be the best sniper too. On the whole ship, a ship with its own dedicated marine force, a FEMALE pilot is the best shot, not to mention that the senior NCO of those marines is a middle-aged 5ft nothing woman... Cylon 6 beating up men I can take, at least she's a robot.
But guys like strong female characters. I'm turned on by strong women. It bothers me that there are so few REAL strong women. Their mostly a bunch of womanchilds that think they are grown up because they can call men children for doing things like playing video games rather than address the fact that they have no retirement money, a bunch of debt, no house, and no REAL financial independence.
Concerning the self-sacrifice: There are so many news article where the husband/father sacrifices himself for his spouse or spouse and children. There are articles about women sacrificing themselves for their children... but I don't see a news story about a woman dying for her spouse. Hmm.
yeah i can totally see the swat leader chick climbing up a mountain in afghanistan while carrying 100lbs gear on the body and i bet she even was first on top and killed all the taliban alone before the weak men even reached the top
i have been the airforece for over eight years. I haven't found this so called super woman yet. From my personal experince 70% to 80% become lazy whores who don't want to work sorry but if the truth hurts. None of the men respect them. Every time their is heavy lifting inovled (which is almost everyday in my job). The women usually steps back and watch. Even when they do help they usually need mans help. Many women see this bull on tv and believe it. Stop living in your fantasy world.
@thomaserossi can you explain how bsg is misandric? Not saying you are wrong; I'm just curious because I love that series and don't want to believe that it could carry such a taint.
Recent films I liked: The Next Three Days, Super 8, Source Code, The Adjustment Bureau.
TV shows are almost uniformly misandric, in my opinion. However, 'Entourage' is mostly good. First two seasons of 'Rescue Me' was good, Many aspects of 'Sopranos' good, 'Gary Unmarried' very good, 'Becker' quite good.
@manwomanmyth do you like Gone With the Wind? Rhett Butler honestly seems like the ultimate anti feminist? What about recent superhero movies like the Batman films, the first two Spider-Man, and the first Iron Man. I think they do a good job of showing heroic males who also have their own issues. The second Spider-Man film in particular.
I found something interesting about the new Bionic Women. The script was as Culturally Marxist and Feminist as you could get. I noticed on Hulu there were MANY negative comments pointing out how absurd all of this posturing was. Needless to say the show tanked. And it had nothing to do with the acting. The actresses in the show came from award winning shows like Battlestar Galactica, which is misandrist but it's not nauseating.
@Atreus21 I enjoyed Alien and Aliens, so don't get me wrong, but surely maternal instinct only goes so far against alien beasts with fangs, acid for blood and bad intentions.
@manwomanmyth To be fair, the mainly male marines did virtually all of the actual fighting (up till the climax), and ersatz family formed between Hicks, Ripley and Newt definitely had Hicks as the defender of the trio, Ripley only stepped up to defend News after Hicks was incapacitated. Not that she was cowardly or weak, but Hicks was by far the more competent fighter. Of course by the fourth film...
The 2009 movie GI Joe, had 2 scenes in which first a good (male) character and then a bad (male) character declared that they would not (or did not want to) hurt a female enemy soldier. Why? When both genders are just as capable of being a threat to your side, why would you NOT want to hurt an enemy female? Pure gender favoritism.
If both sides populated their armies with women, then there would be no wars, because each side would be told "dont hurt women". :P
And with the insurgence of "tough" women in popular culture and modern media, who still gets portrayed as the majority or fodder and "bad guys"? Men.
Even when women are portrayed as being just as skillful and strong as men, male characters still make up the fodder when the monster/alien/villain decimates the good guys forces AND male characters still make up the enemy forces when the good guys bust in guns ablazing
A memory from university of some sort of lecture in which the lecturer handed round his reproduction mediaeval broadsword. The sword was handed from man to man and all of us could hold it with one hand, although it was heavy. The sole woman present expressed her irritation when no one had handed it to her and so it was passed to her. She could not hold it with two hands and very nearly let it fall. Only prompt action stopped it from falling onto the head of the man in front of her.
Honestly why do women go to war to actually fight. Is it to prove a point? Or what? Because there's no point. They wouldn't survive in actual combat and the male soldiers would always have to look out for her.
There are tough women out there but they not smoking hot models. Most guys in the military will tell you that there are some women who want special treatment and use their gender, than their are the other ones whom do the job. After awhile the men forget their women cuse they kinda have to. They have to lock in their brains this is a man with a vagina bacause testorone goes crazy when ur sexually starved. It can even make a man think lady gaga is hot.
Joss Whedon has to be the master of the "powerful sexy female". I always laugh because it's such a ridiculous fantasy. The ethos seems to be, "I can outfight any man, and I look sexy doing it too!" The characters are pimped-up Barbie dolls with hyper-surreal combat abilities, absolutely nothing like real people. Of course, there are blatantly exaggerated portrayals of men too (Rambo etc.), but these at least have some small basis in reality.
By having a woman in the S.A.S in ultimate force i couldn't take the show seriously and stopped watching it because no woman is allowed in ANY elite or special forces regiment in the British armed forces
"With this, I can shoot the dick off a hummingbird."
I find it interesting that the aggression shown is not simply women being tough, but women being aggressive against men. The theme is very interesting, because the woman usually shows her toughness by humiliating and emasculating the man, not simply by being tough.
@chrisman737 I agree, That's stupid. Women should be tough by just being tough and portrayed as complete human beings. IMO this new stereotype of the uber-tough woman is just as shallow and one-dimensional as the more traditional stereotype of women as stupid, weak, and incompetent.
It reveals that the collective consciousness still has trouble seeing women as complete human beings.
There are exceptions to every rule, and there are women who can do what men do. It isn't common and we are promoting male traits as normal while completely denegrading natural female skills as being worthless. This harms everyone (whatever happened to respect?! That's probably been my push to be as capable as any male: I don't get respected as a woman with female abilities, only male abilities are worth anything in society). As for magic isn't imagination and dreaming more of a feminine trait?
@TwyztdValkyrie Let's put this in another way. Men are expected, by default, to be handy at a wide range of abilities. Even if a man has, for instance, never handled cement in his life, he's expected to be able to manage whatever task with it. Women never are. Men are expected to be useful. Women never are. The key word here is "expected." I think it is denigrating to women NOT to expect and demand competence.
I just watched Saw 3 again last night, and it reminded me of this video. A woman getting hit in the back twice with a pipe, punched in the face, and getting her faced slammed against the wall 5 times, is still able to thwart off and kill a trained (and completely pissed off) police officer.
This Hollywoood mis-representation of the reality of women's true strength is actually most dangerous to women themselves. Especially when they get out on the street, get over confident and yell at some guy they never met. They would be drawn into a false sense of security and then obliterated (physically) by the man they attack. (Verbally or otherwise).
Unless... uh... they're stronger than the guy they yell at?
NO one should go through life with false sense of security when it comes to provoking strangers - not women, not men (dealing with other men, and women too).
Even if you're a trained Kung Fu Wrestler champion, there are still ways a stranger on the street could do you severe damage under the right circumstances - don't start conflicts that could result in violence, full stop.
... is that they're statistically weaker than men - not that they're AUTOMATICALLY so.
Any trained woman is STRONGER than an untrained (or less trained) man. Any woman with combat experience and training, CAN KICK A DUDE'S ASS.
If you disagree, why don't you go challenge a female bodybuilder, or wrestler, and see how that turns out? They'll probably refuse out of sympathy, and you'll go all Black Knight from Monty Python on them.
So basically, YOU're suffering from a false sense of security, if you really believe that you can just yell at / attack any woman on the street, and get away unharmed if they get really pissed at you.
Independent of gender, if you want to yell at people on the street, you should better be good at estimating their strength and skills - but the possibilities of doing that are very limited.
@twooffour First of all try commenting on what was actually said. I myself saild nothing about yelling at or attacking women. For that you are totally fucked in the head. Also, the point I'm making is that take ANY man and woman that are the same age, weight and height, and the man will win against her every time. Once again, don't lie to your daughters to give them a false sense of security because they guy they attack could get them raped or murdered. I say this as a protective father .
"I myself saild nothing about yelling at or attacking women. For that you are totally fucked in the head."
Exactly. And the fact that you specifically mentioned women yelling at men being dangerous for the women, but not the other way around, implied that you thought, well, this:
"take ANY man and woman that are the same age, weight and height, and the man will win against her every time"
WRONG. So wrong, it defies the Spacetime of Space.
... in order to make such a MORONIC statement? People of your stupidity should never be allowed to raise children.
First of all, age has NOTHING to do with it, because weight and height are largely independent of the age - this goes especially for the adults; in teens, there's a phase where girls are taller than the boys of the same age.
Then, you forgot STRENGTH - what if they're of the same strength? Strength doesn't depend on weight (little hint: if McDonald's were but a niche...
@twooffour Time for a little education you fucking retard. People get weaker as they get older so yes, age, weight and hieght play a huge roll even it it's men against men. Quit being so pissed off at the world because you were born a female. My point here is don't put other females with common sense in danger by telling them they are invincible then they go down a dark alley somewhere and get raped and or murdered. I would never tell my daughter such an idiotic lie to put her in danger.
@twooffour I noticed the only comment you didnt respond to was the one regarding combat and how your insignificant fresh off the tit ass has NEVER served in the military much less in a war. I also notice you gave no response regarding how your father abandond your sorry ass. Your just a 19 year old raging liberal pussy boy who hasnt got a fucking clue how anything works in this world. What is your obsession with having girls fight men? Are you really that fucked up in the head? Get some help.
"What is your obsession with having girls fight men? Are you really that fucked up in the head?"
Your retardation starts reaching cosmic levels now... what "obsession"? It's the TOPIC of the "debate" here... you said women couldn't win against men in combat (under "equal circumstance), I said you're wrong.
Girls don't HAVE to fight men, they also shouldn't ATTACK them (no one "should" attack anyone), I'm only saying they still have a chance of winning, whether in attack or defense.
@twooffour If your not a female then what is your psychotic obsession with having women fight men? I'm sure it's because youre such a pussy that any other male you've fought has beat the fucking shit our of your scrawny ass. You scroungy little fucking worm. For example. If you were to fight me, I would totally fuck you up and stomp a mud puddle in your ass. So go get a life, find your piece of shit father and learn to be a man yourself once and for all.
But hey, some woman could be stronger than you, and beat YOU up. That would actually validate my point ;)
Confused?
Point is, if you really wanna be a "man", learn to discuss properly, and quit yelling, threatening and waving your arms over the internet - it's stupid, pointless and pathetic.
Of course, that has not so much to do with being a "man", as having tolerable CHARACTER without major insecurities waiting to be revealed.
@maxxthemerciless I would agree with you, except for one instance: women are (were?) expected to risk or lay down their lives for their children, if not their mates. Evolutionary speaking, it would be stupid not to do so...if the young can rely on the father to still care for them, well then your genes are passed on anyway. I see the truth in your comment, but it is still disheartening. If I do something for a person, it's exemplary, but you do the same and it's trivialized? Not in *my* book.
thylacinegurl 16 hours ago
you should add at the end "A strong woman doesn't break down and cry after being criticized by Rush Limbaugh, and require a consoling phone call from the President of the United States because her feelings were hurt".
twoshotdqm 19 hours ago
@shamelessfootfucker Not at all. Strangely enough I don't dislike compliments if they are sincere, and I like the fact my friends don't consider me "mixed company". I thank you, sir, for recognizing that all women are not total bitches, even if 98% of them are :/
thylacinegurl 1 day ago
@hoppingmadmedia Also, I don't want to blow my own horn, these were little things that I've done. Taking a pay cut so my friend with a family didn't have to. Paying for dinner or the movie we saw. Watching their pets for free. Sleeping on the floor so they could have the bed. These are the things that define true friendship.
thylacinegurl 1 day ago
@hoppingmadmedia Unfortunately, I am only 25yr old and may be a bit naive, but I thought that most people were raised this way...Isn't the saying "respect your elders" and "needs of many over needs of few" still true? As all my friends are both male and at least 8-10yr older than me, it just makes sense that I would make sacrifices for their benefit...
thylacinegurl 1 day ago
@manwomanmyth But that is unfair, to both men AND women. Men should not be expected to always make sacrifices, b/c most men already make a lot. Women *should* be expected to make sacrifices, as they are adults and can support others the way they are supported. This, in my opinion, is why feminists have destroyed society; they are like children who want pocket money but don't want to do the chores to get it!
thylacinegurl 1 day ago
@manwomanmyth In your analysis of the Dr. Who scene, you make it sound like women have no sense of honor or can think of anyone except herself. Maybe I'm just weird, but there are many times I've given either physical or financial aid to my male friends, when it wasn't in "my" best interest. But as it helped my friends, I sucked it up and dealt with it.
thylacinegurl 1 day ago
@thylacinegurl Women are not the same as men and behave differently to men as a rule, especially in life or death situations. Women are less willing and less wired to self-sacrifice, Nature wanted it that way and it is supported by both men and women.
That's why the titanic went the way it did and it's why, to this day (and indefinitely into the future) it will continue to be 'women first'.
manwomanmyth 1 day ago 3
@manwomanmyth True, and this theory supports why men willingly go to war, allow themselves to be stripped of parental rights and roll over in divorce allowing women to take more that they deserve!
johnnyprescott 1 day ago
@thylacinegurl manwomanmyth is correct in saying that, as a rule, women behave completely differently in life or death situations and are less willing to self-sacrifice. However, it is commendable that you have "given either physical or financial aid" to your male friends. You say that you've done that "many times," but imagine if the "many times", were the times when you got away with *not* doing so, and that giving physical and financial aid was your constant life's duty.
HoppingMadMedia 1 day ago 2
@HoppingMadMedia When I say duty, I refer more to a societal expectation than anything. If you can imagine the heavy weight of this expectation being placed upon your for the entirety of your life, and those of your brothers and friends, and your father, and his father before him for generations, then you are beginning to scratch the surface of being a male.
HoppingMadMedia 1 day ago
@HoppingMadMedia but only barely.
HoppingMadMedia 1 day ago
@thylacinegurl you don't speak for the majority. Youre an individual. That's a compliment but considering youre woman, youre probably going to tke it as an insult.
shamelessfootfucker 1 day ago
@shamelessfootfucker or just might think of me as "too nice" for not catering to a woman's latent masochistic urge.
shamelessfootfucker 1 day ago
@thylacinegurl The distinction, with you, however, is that nobody expects you to do it. Nobody expects you to sacrifice anything to anyone, let alone to men. The operative word here is "expects." Women have no such expectation to do anything that doesn't involve their personal self-interest, and even then they're not expected to operate with honor. If a woman behaves dishonorably, we chalk it up to one of the privileges of being a woman. If a man does so, he's a scoundrel.
MaxxTheMerciless 20 hours ago
I would ask the Queen about how to change oil--she was a mechanic during WW2. As a Briton, you should know that.
ek4elite 2 days ago
One more thing: I noticed a trend on TV, when I used to watch TV: Brave women initiating a relationship with a man, in a direct, pseudo masculine way. "Hey, let's go out. Now." Women will never do this with men they want to fuck. Ever.
sillygoose544 3 days ago
I'm a man who likes to work out and all that, and I can't help but notice how SOFT all those women look in these video samples you used. "Woman = tougher than men, despite having no conditioning!" And I suspect some believe that on a subconscious level. Well, until shit gets real.
sillygoose544 3 days ago
According to Newton, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. What that means is x amount of misandry results in x amount of misogyny. It is common knowledge that men are stronger, more intelligent, determined and persistent than women (on average).
What I'm trying to say here is that I don't believe this whole feminist movement is going to last too much longer.
killer2611 3 days ago
Asking a women how to run an army is like asking the queen to do an oil change? lol the queen actually trained as a mechanic you silly sausage!!
caroline713 3 days ago
I wanted to rage about your examples.
Then I realized all of these examples (except for Buffy - Buffy is a good show) show idiotic and silly examples of women being tough. Also, your ultimate point (that women are never the heroes and need to earn respect to be a proper commander) is still correct.
I'm reminded of Ayn Rand saying she'd never, ever vote for a woman to be commander-in-chief of the entire USA's military. Damn right.
piecharthosen 3 days ago
Ada Lovelace: The most overrated figure in the history of computing: watch?v=s526JfQhEx8
UnrationedRationale 4 days ago
I have to laugh at everyone complaining that he's using clips from films. Of course he is, he's demonstrating the ridiculous way women are constantly portrayed as superior to men in the media.
Restayvien 1 week ago 19
So men think that they're better than women because they like to build armies, fight with each other, and create war and suffering? If women ruled the world then we wouldn't need all that shit.
BoadieMcLeod 1 week ago
@BoadieMcLeod
Eh, have you ever heard of Margret Thatcher and a little thing called The Falklands War? You are so full of it. There is a video in this series addressing that exact point. War is fought over territory and women are just as, if not even more territorial than men, so you cannot assume that war would not exist if women ruled.
Sambucca 1 week ago
@BoadieMcLeod
But today there are women in the armies! On their own request!
So far women were not allowed to go to combat duty on the frontline.
But women are pushing for that "right" that as female soldiers they also be allowed to go to the front and to kill men there! Why? Its man-hating Feminist BS again. To kill, to destroy, to fuck up the lives of men in general: that's the aim of Feminism, nothing else. Why do the women want to kill in war if it is not necessary for them?
MrWHun 1 week ago
@BoadieMcLeod ya~ because women never street fight each other over small, stupid issues, so of course if they ruled the world there would be nothing but peace.....NOT!
Natsukashii3 1 week ago
@BoadieMcLeod so are you saying that there is something inherent in females such that they cannot and do not engage in violence at the level of war? while i agree that demonisation of feminism is wrong-headed, i do think that there is a misandryous streak in western culture today
lajungesombre 4 days ago
@BoadieMcLeod
If you think there'd be no violence if women ruled the world then you're an idiot.
UnknownUserName4267 1 day ago
what really pisses me off is that violence against men is acceptable
TrueBlueCanuck 1 week ago
To all the people saying "if it showed a man beating up a woman, it would be misogyny..", why does everyone take movies so literally? It's good guy vs bad guy. If the bad guy is a woman, and the good guy is a man, fine, I don't think people would complain that he kicked her ass. Maybe the question is: why are there no female "bad guys"? (e.g. most recent Indiana Jones movie). Just a thought...
logobrain 2 weeks ago
"Asking the Queen how to do an oil change" is a bad metaphor - the UK's Queen passed intermediate level training in car mechanics during World War II - an oil change would be nothing for her, probably even today.
avidalocan 2 weeks ago 2
People forget that if only a fairly well-built guy bashes a relatively frail woman, she will almost certainly be knocked out from the blow. The difference in muscular strength and physical ability to withstand blows is huge.
avidalocan 2 weeks ago
As funny as it is too see all these clips of the fantastical ass kicking super bitch strung together and realising how ridiculous they are, I must admit I loved Xena and Buffy. Plus that bit in Aliens where Sigourney fights the queen in the Digger was totally believable, so probably not the best example.
Sambucca 2 weeks ago
@Sambucca I wasn't referring to the idea that the clips themselves are ridiculous. I think it's ridiculous to use hollywood nonsense to prove a point. By that same token, I can take a bunch of alien movies to prove that life exists outside of earth. Do some real research: talk to real people. I see enough hollywood on tv.
logobrain 2 weeks ago
@logobrain
But there's a difference between a film like Alien, which tells its story in a fantastical science fiction world where the scope of our reality is clearly stretched, to a show like 24 which is based in a considerably more realistic universe. Besides werther it is sci-fi or not, the fact that all the computer hackers and code analysts in these dramas are female is still laughable. However they are clearly scripted as females to make a statement.
Sambucca 2 weeks ago
@Sambucca Actually, the first computer programmer was a woman named Ada Lovelace.
BoadieMcLeod 1 week ago
@BoadieMcLeod
Haha, bullshit. No she wasn't. Her praised accomplishment was merely a reiteration of a programme that she herself did not write. Go research a bit more outside of the patronising feminist websites that laud women for the most trivial of accomplishments.
Sambucca 1 week ago
I loved all the Hollywood crap showing men being filled in by women, a scenario that you rarely, if ever would see reversed. A man beating the dogshit out of a woman to the same extent would be seen as mysoginistic yet women are supposed to see these ultraviolent women as positive role models.
taffwob 3 weeks ago
i agree with all, except with the use of alien, Sigourney is still cool
mikesomething 3 weeks ago
@mikesomething Yeah, she didn't make it look easy, she just made it look possible.
RictusHolloweye 3 weeks ago
Part 1 was good but part 2 is terrible. I don't see the issue with have women as a strong lead or being able to hold their own. Women are equal so there should have the same roles right? Why is this bad?
mariotaz 4 weeks ago
"women have always been the ones rescued first, while men perished" Ok. So who came up with these rules in the first place? Aren't they now outdated?
logobrain 4 weeks ago
Why all the hollywood nonsense? stop talking about it, it's not illustrating anything except movie writers' wild imaginations
logobrain 4 weeks ago
@logobrain
Agreed. Using Hollywood is a bad idea.
mariotaz 4 weeks ago
@logobrain
The imaginations of Hollywood writers are subjectively influenced by hot social topics and the rise of the ass-kicking female is an obvious feminist statement. As ridiculous as these clips appear, they do subconciously infer that women are just as capable at fighting and saving the day, as their male counterparts. Most people glued to their TV screens don't have any exposure to the reality and become brainwashed by the lie.
Sambucca 2 weeks ago
@Sambucca Yeah, you're right. The extremely high percentages of women who are raped and beaten by men have no idea of what reality really is.
BoadieMcLeod 1 week ago
@BoadieMcLeod
This video has nothing whatsoever to do with the rape of women, but now that you mention it, I doubt women like you know what the reality of rape is at all, so brainwashed are you by the misinformation and manipulated statistics gathering of feminists.
Sambucca 1 week ago 8
@BoadieMcLeod in Canada, the levels of domestic violence between men and women is roughly equal. However, the incidents of womenbeating children is higher than men beating children. The incidents of serious injury due to domestic violence is higher when men are involved in the violence. So those are the general rough stats. (women studies.....)
lajungesombre 4 days ago
the only reason we know is because this is mandatorily documented in Ontario and BC. Yay. In places where this isn't documented, the ratio "drops" (is not reported) significantly.
piecharthosen 3 days ago
Well Xena's now the wife of Batiatus. lol
Yardidol 4 weeks ago
Letting women beat the crap out of men in movies is like letting the kid with down syndrome score a touchdown in P.E.
The only difference is that women are vain enough to think it means something.
intercourseman69 1 month ago
Ah, hah! Always funny how the most obvious examples elude one at first...
heroic female self-sacrifice, where is it? First of all, let's ask the necessary question: is there less of those because women feel more entitled and cowardly than men / because society somehow portrays heroism as a male trait? Or... because the men watching don't want a pretty lady to sacrifice herself (or die, for that matter), because a pretty woman is like a treasure, and nothing hurts more than seeing one die?
twooffour 1 month ago
Just one for the philosophers there.
Here's a few more examples apart from X2 (and X3... kinda):
-The Matrix Reloaded (ironically, Trinity was more convincing when acting tough, rather than the "feminine" homely wife)
-Return of the King (half: Eowyn doesn't kill herself, but she knows she's fucked, and ends up horribly injured [pretty unconvincing acting there, by the way - but that goes for her entire performance])
-Alien 3?
-End of Days
-Buffy, a few times (although examples in which...
twooffour 1 month ago
... the woman sacrifices herself TO SOMEONE ELSE (mostly a male villain; or maybe a religious ritual, i.e. Iphigenia), like in the 1st season, should be excluded, because it's a variation of the ancient "girl for the dragon" trope, and is submissive/misogynistic in nature; that one rather cries for MALE examples)
-24: Some random female cop in the last season.
twooffour 1 month ago
-Aaaaaand, of course basically anytime a female hero risks her life to help her fellow agents, or whatever - happened God knows how many times in Alias and the like.
Although, of course, in that case, you've got tha cognitive dissonance again - are you gonna bash the film for "portraying a strong woman", or complain about women not being heroic enough while all the men are willing to die for their team?
Difficult decision!
Oh, and real-life, almost forgot:
twooffour 1 month ago
en . wikipedia . org / wiki / List_of_tablets_on_the_Memorial_to_Heroic_Self_Sacrifice
Like every 5th individual is a woman. FUCK you.
twooffour 1 month ago
Oh wait, I'm not done yet...
"In the Middle East, women sure have it rough
Agreed. But not as rough as men have it."
The point here, you disingenuous prick, is that WOMEN ARE OPPRESSED BY MEN in those states.
As mandated by the Islamic religion, too.
Yea, that religion is cruel to men, as well, but they're not oppressed by women, but by themselves.
"Well, men are forced to fight and die. Is oppression in the middle East really about women’s clothing?"
To all of those who think women's...
twooffour 1 month ago
@twooffour
... issues in those countries are really limited to "having to wear black"... you know what, I've got a feeling that if you had to part with these delusions, your psyche might not take that well.
Yea, women in the ME are forced to wear black, the men have to take it up the ass. That's how it is.
Anyone still having doubts about manwomanmyth's position? One thing I can say is, it sure does suit his username better than he thinks.
twooffour 1 month ago
Also, here's a sample from manwomanmyth's website:
""Men are afraid of strong women."
1.No. A strong women doesn’t need affirmative action. It’s the majority of women, the weak women that cause trouble for men
2.No. Strong women are an asset, it’s toxic women that men are wary of.
3.If only there was such a thing as a strong woman…
4.Men have yet to encounter strong women, how could they be afraid of them?"
I see, it's in the "snappy comebacks" section, but it's pretty clear that this is
twooffour 1 month ago
@twooffour
... his actual view.
THERE ARE NO STRONG WOMEN. ALL OF THEM ARE WEAK.
Can't handle stress, can't handle combat, can't handle work, can't handle illness... yea, that's what that means.
And yes, there a tendency in INSECURE men to be afraid of "strong women". But that's just some.
Anyway, why am I even arguing against this guy?
Bottom line, anyone coming here in the belief that this is a channel "shedding light on gender equality without the distortions of feminism", is wrong.
twooffour 1 month ago
@twooffour
Of course, feminism itself, at its best, already does part of the job, as the notion that patriarchy (male positions in power, the notion that men are tougher, stronger, or more violent) damages men as well (rape accusations, domestic abuse in the public eye, etc. etc.).
This guy's (manwomanmyth) position is: men are better than women.
Take it for it is, ladies and gentlemen.
twooffour 1 month ago
@twooffour
*"as the notion that ... is prominent in feminism", but maybe they're overlooking some problems for men that are NOT a result of patriarchy?
Forget about all that: This guy's...*
twooffour 1 month ago
Also, apparently this guy doesn't get that NONE OF THE EXAMPLES of movies in which female characters go around pwning everyone, actually claim that women are stronger.
Because main action characters are known to do that - they go around, pwning everyone. Main characters, and sidekicks.
Sometimes they're female, more often male, though.
So the only complaint should be that there are too few female "mooks" in the mook armies.
twooffour 1 month ago
2:52
24 (season 6), Master and Commander, Ronin, Lost (all men)
3;27 Supernatural ;)
4:00 Great, he doesn't know the difference between "bad acting" and "woman".
Kristanna Loken and Michelle from 24 are good examples of "believablly" tough women.
Jennifer Garner in Alias plays "vulnerable" outside of the "tense scenes", but the whole show there is like that.
7:56 X-men 2
9:00 Yea, some men ARE afraid of strong women, it's called insecurity. Not all women, obviously.
twooffour 1 month ago
@twooffour
So, um, what, this guy's point is that women can't be physically strong, and he lists all these examples as "unrealistic portrayal" of strong women (compared to male action stars, that is).
So, what, the supposed "reality" is that it's unrealistic for a woman to be brave enough to walk towards a gun?
Or that all of these tropes are applied less to male characters (as I've just disproven above)?
It's not quite clear what his point is, but what's clear is that he's a crank.
twooffour 1 month ago
@twooffour
Also, the 4:00 example again - it's a bit funny how he apparently doesn't "buy" toughness, or even experience with violence, unless the character speaks in a clichéd Southern half-whisper...
Nick Nolte's character in Tropic Thunder appears to be MADE to make fun of guys like this.
Also, "24" had some cases of "evil women threatening good men", although most of the villainnesses there were moles / assistants.
Ironically, that show was still mainly a dickfest - most of the...
twooffour 1 month ago
@twooffour
... alpha villains were men (figures), as well as most of the action heroes.
Seems like convenient self-reaffirming position for this dood to take - if there are tough evil women, that's "unrealistic", and if it's too many men, it's because "misandry" says men are evil and disposable.
So the more weaker, evil female characters, the more realistic, and less sexist, huh? Maybe I'm grasping at straws here, but this straw sticks out like a sore thumb in this video.
twooffour 1 month ago
@twooffour
Men are more "believable" when playing "tough guy" roles, but the same stereotype seems to cause people to look away from female-on-male domestic abuse.
So... um... it's unrealistic to think that women could really pose a threat to their male partners, or... the false notion that women are weak causes us to take such claims less seriously?
One or the other! Preferably the latter one, though, as that's actually the sensible position to take.
twooffour 1 month ago
@twooffour
Also, Elena Derevko from Alias was a very convincing alpha villain - dead-serious, and frightening.
Not as "feminine" as Lena Olin, and not one bit of a femme fatale.
Then, it had two other black villainnesses, both were "threatening men", but not sure how convincing they were - Gina Torres was way too cheesy to be taken seriously.
So, bottom line, is this dood's selective selection of clips worth anything? Maybe, but not terribly much.
twooffour 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Kinda ironic how the guy yelling stuff like "I would totally fuck you up and stomp a mud puddle in your ass" or believing in his own ass-pulled "abandoned daddy" theories, tells someone else to "get psychological help" - and that specifically for making more sense than him.
Just saying - it's highly ironic. ;)
twooffour 1 month ago
I"m reminded of the recent move "SALT," with rail-thin Angelina Jolie throwing around beefy men like they were plastic dolls :)
GetMeThere1 1 month ago
i dont think xena had special powers. she just knew how to kick ass. i always had a crush on her.
smoking1212 1 month ago
i think the only thing this video is saying is that there is a lot of misandry in hollywood, movies, the often-photographed (like models), celebrities, and other media. i almost never see man-hate anywhere in my family or the real world. when i do, it's just looked over or forgotten and seen as ridiculous.
PopeOfTheUniverse 2 months ago
@PopeOfTheUniverse How many movies have you seen when a man gets hit in the nuts?
DannyBeeXV 1 month ago
@DannyBeeXV very often, and i think it's ridiculous and offensive towards men, just the way i feel about women and myself when i see women on tv and in movies portrayed like this. i'm totally baffled by it, always have been, even when i was young. i'm tired of seeing women seen as wimps unless they are superwomen. i have never behaved the way these women do, and i don't know one person who does. the few times i see it happen, they usually get a karmic slap in the face quickly.
PopeOfTheUniverse 1 month ago
@DannyBeeXV (continued) i implore you, men, understand that this is hollywood, not reality. i do though, think girls, beginning in teen years, are taught by movies and tv that they need to act like this (strong, independent, bitchy) but then later find out that that kind of behavior just does not prove fruitful. i am truly repelled by these women in tv and movies, and even more if they exist in real life. please don't lump us together, guys, there are decent girls out there.
PopeOfTheUniverse 1 month ago
@PopeOfTheUniverse
Don't worry, the "guys" that AREN'T dumb / out of touch won't lump women together.
Don't "implore" them, also, reprimand them with a fist of common sense and righteousness ;)
twooffour 1 month ago
@DannyBeeXV
Comical or serious? Because the overwhelming comical examples don't count - cartoon violence =/= serious violence.
Anyway, Scrubs has about the same amount of comical slapstick accidents happen to characters of either gender.
twooffour 1 month ago
@DannyBeeXV
Oh, Little Britain had an episode where a girl got her nipples twisted (by the fat one), that was played for laughs, as well.
You might bump into examples like that elsewhere, although less frequently.
twooffour 1 month ago
I wonder why all these women are drop dead gorgeous? Seems like a sexy wet dream..men create! These movies were made by men for men!
jennrichards84 2 months ago 4
@jennrichards84 These heroic women in movies are gorgeous for the same reason heroic men in film are gorgeous-they look good on camera and is part of what attracts people to watch these movies. Movie makers portray women as tough fighters in these films to attract more women to action films-and it's working. If you believe that women beating up men is a mans wet dream then you know nothing of men. Trust me. We do not dream of getting our asses kicked by girls.
eskimospy77 1 month ago
At risk of raising a very contraversial subject: would you say that the ability and inclination to kill other humans is a male trait, i.e.: a man can handle being a killer (e.g.: your marine friend) AND a member of society while a woman in the same position is more likely to be a sociopath, i.e.: antisocial and sadistic, (not PERCIEVED as, but actually ARE). If so, would this be an extention of men having evoved to be hunters (opposed to gatheres), so killing is a more natural tendency?
Taig32 2 months ago
@Taig32 "Controversy" is this channel's middle name.
Women and men have different abilities in all aspects: physical, mental, emotional. It so happens that in manipulating the world around us, men are more capable and more useful.
Be it building, inventing, designing, sustaining or indeed, destroying, men are the best equipped to do it.
The inclination to kill is human, the ability to do it 'well' is male. The exception is lethal violence against children: in this, it is women who shine.
manwomanmyth 2 months ago 7
@manwomanmyth Well doesn't that mean I was right? The inclination to kill children is sociopathic, since it is done out of pleasure, not to remove a threat.
Taig32 2 months ago
@Taig32
OR out of desperation / convenience. Same when men kill their children ;)
twooffour 1 month ago
@manwomanmyth Yes, better equipped to kill, but not necessarily "built for".
Men tend to be more geometric and application-oriented, women tend to be more abstract and personality-oriented. Women often focus on making each other feel better through problems. Men more often focus on fixing the problems themselves.
As such, killing goes against a woman's problem-solving methods, whereas men don't have much of an issue once it's established as a net good, like killing 1 to save 10.
esepc40991 1 month ago
@esepc40991
I'm a dude who rather tends to face up to problems rather than solve them - it's spelled LAZINESS.
Know plenty of dudes who're just like that, and some "I'm gonna solve this one!" women.
Your opinion is simplified and dumbed down AT BEST.
twooffour 1 month ago
@twooffour Understandable. Please note, I talk of tendencies, which by their own nature are simplified, yes. That wasn't my point. It wasn't about who is willing to act and who is lazy. It's simply about how the decisions are percieved. In computer terms it's like the same hardware and software, but one uses OpenGL, and the other DirectX. Same problems, similar solutions, different outlook.
esepc40991 1 month ago
EX. There was a study done on toddlers in how they solved a hedge maze. They were given one look of the map beforehand. They found that boys stored the image in their mind, and rotated it based on the position of the sun.
The girls looked for the key turning points, which direction to turn, and how to get to the next point. They used a network of landmarks.
Both are legitimate means of navigation and got the job done.
esepc40991 1 month ago
@esepc40991
K.
twooffour 1 month ago
@Taig32
Um, why do you listen to this crank?
Maybe, statistically, these assertions are correct, but he said that "the ability to do it well is male". Not "somewhat more likely in men", but "male".
Um... no. A woman can learn a deadly combat style, kill people with weapons, and learn to "get rid of evidence", none of that is a male monopoly.
Dunno about fighting in armies much, but obviously, women are capable of killing in self-defense / defense of someone else / in retaliation without...
twooffour 1 month ago
@Taig32
... otherwise being "sociopathic".
How well they'd be able to handle such an incident psychologically, is up to statistics, but obviously both genders can be affected by shock and guilt in the most various ways.
twooffour 1 month ago
I noticed that Xena was this way before I even knew misandry, or male discrimination was a factual thing..
Every time any guy that wasn't submissive & had a perfectly NORMAL interest in the large breasted, provocatively dressed Xena was automatically a villain, and was generally played by an ugly or slobbering actor to put emphasis on how bad we Men are..
Klaus1386 2 months ago
@Klaus1386
Or maybe Xena disliked them because they were ugly and slobbering ;)
twooffour 1 month ago
Its clear they make it their goal to put "masculine women" in films and TV. Just like its their goal to put Homosexuals in the spot light. Every TV show you see will have some reference to these, ie. a quirky character on the side who happens to be homo, or a man hater. It's to destroy culture and gender roles. This is why we have our present generation of mixed up people, who don't know who they are or how they fit in society. Hollywood and the public schools is raising us.
CrackerJayherber 2 months ago
@CrackerJayherber
Hehehehe, the confused&irritated conservative... oh no, "gender roles" are all getting mixed up!
twooffour 1 month ago
@twooffour Shut the fuck up guy. You talk too much...
CrackerJayherber 1 month ago
@CrackerJayherber
Hey, fuck *you*, man!
twooffour 1 month ago
this video would be better if you used clips from Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Law and Order SVU, a show where it seems a woman gets raped every hour of every day in New York alone
ShriekoftheVulture3 2 months ago
To be honest I don't believe that females are the problem. They are a product of society - a society created by men and women, but is it necessarily that bad at the moment? Yeah women have more control, but men are still physically and mentally superior, we know that women control us we just accept it and move on.
Society has pulled the wool over both sexes eyes - it just so happens it is in favour of women at the moment.
saetazmjsxmkxk 2 months ago
I remember that King Arthur movie! I was so afraid for the girl in those fights, but it was cute and unexpected how tough she was.
jaymthegenius 2 months ago
And the funny thing is, this is also coupled with the point you also made: women are rarely, if ever, killed on screen.
PachucoDesigns 3 months ago
Eh, I don't know about the whole TX thing. Guise of a woman, but it's a machine. It's not a woman. Sure, it's definitely to appeal to the politically correct feminist crap, but still, story wise, not a woman. lol
PachucoDesigns 3 months ago
While in general I really liked the re-imagined BSG series, it always really annoyed me that Starbuck is not only the best pilot (fair enough, I guess, maybe) but in one episode featuring a prison break, she is ackowledged to be the best sniper too. On the whole ship, a ship with its own dedicated marine force, a FEMALE pilot is the best shot, not to mention that the senior NCO of those marines is a middle-aged 5ft nothing woman... Cylon 6 beating up men I can take, at least she's a robot.
Taig32 3 months ago
take a closer look where you are heading "Western World" you have become the womans bitch
FuckGayrece 3 months ago
But guys like strong female characters. I'm turned on by strong women. It bothers me that there are so few REAL strong women. Their mostly a bunch of womanchilds that think they are grown up because they can call men children for doing things like playing video games rather than address the fact that they have no retirement money, a bunch of debt, no house, and no REAL financial independence.
rexxthunder 3 months ago
When will women realize that feminism is a failure. It has turned our men into sweet simpy manginas and captain save a hoes.
Israel5058 4 months ago
Concerning the self-sacrifice: There are so many news article where the husband/father sacrifices himself for his spouse or spouse and children. There are articles about women sacrificing themselves for their children... but I don't see a news story about a woman dying for her spouse. Hmm.
themondracon 5 months ago
yeah i can totally see the swat leader chick climbing up a mountain in afghanistan while carrying 100lbs gear on the body and i bet she even was first on top and killed all the taliban alone before the weak men even reached the top
happosai27 5 months ago in playlist Weitere Videos von manwomanmyth
i have been the airforece for over eight years. I haven't found this so called super woman yet. From my personal experince 70% to 80% become lazy whores who don't want to work sorry but if the truth hurts. None of the men respect them. Every time their is heavy lifting inovled (which is almost everyday in my job). The women usually steps back and watch. Even when they do help they usually need mans help. Many women see this bull on tv and believe it. Stop living in your fantasy world.
formassio71 6 months ago
@thomaserossi can you explain how bsg is misandric? Not saying you are wrong; I'm just curious because I love that series and don't want to believe that it could carry such a taint.
DrNordo 6 months ago
hey manwomanmyth, I am wonder, what are the most non feminist/non manhating films and TV shows you have seen?
ShriekoftheVulture3 6 months ago
@ShriekoftheVulture3 My website has some film reviews.
Recent films I liked: The Next Three Days, Super 8, Source Code, The Adjustment Bureau.
TV shows are almost uniformly misandric, in my opinion. However, 'Entourage' is mostly good. First two seasons of 'Rescue Me' was good, Many aspects of 'Sopranos' good, 'Gary Unmarried' very good, 'Becker' quite good.
manwomanmyth 6 months ago
@manwomanmyth do you like Gone With the Wind? Rhett Butler honestly seems like the ultimate anti feminist? What about recent superhero movies like the Batman films, the first two Spider-Man, and the first Iron Man. I think they do a good job of showing heroic males who also have their own issues. The second Spider-Man film in particular.
ShriekoftheVulture3 6 months ago
@manwomanmyth you haven't watched for colored girls by tyler perry..rent it..
mrcharles007 3 months ago
I found something interesting about the new Bionic Women. The script was as Culturally Marxist and Feminist as you could get. I noticed on Hulu there were MANY negative comments pointing out how absurd all of this posturing was. Needless to say the show tanked. And it had nothing to do with the acting. The actresses in the show came from award winning shows like Battlestar Galactica, which is misandrist but it's not nauseating.
thomaserossi 6 months ago
In Aliens' defense, the movie's underlying theme was maternal instinct. And manliness fared pretty well. Hicks was awesome.
Atreus21 6 months ago
@Atreus21 I enjoyed Alien and Aliens, so don't get me wrong, but surely maternal instinct only goes so far against alien beasts with fangs, acid for blood and bad intentions.
manwomanmyth 6 months ago
@manwomanmyth To be fair, the mainly male marines did virtually all of the actual fighting (up till the climax), and ersatz family formed between Hicks, Ripley and Newt definitely had Hicks as the defender of the trio, Ripley only stepped up to defend News after Hicks was incapacitated. Not that she was cowardly or weak, but Hicks was by far the more competent fighter. Of course by the fourth film...
Taig32 3 months ago
The 2009 movie GI Joe, had 2 scenes in which first a good (male) character and then a bad (male) character declared that they would not (or did not want to) hurt a female enemy soldier. Why? When both genders are just as capable of being a threat to your side, why would you NOT want to hurt an enemy female? Pure gender favoritism.
If both sides populated their armies with women, then there would be no wars, because each side would be told "dont hurt women". :P
ColonelCosmic 6 months ago
And with the insurgence of "tough" women in popular culture and modern media, who still gets portrayed as the majority or fodder and "bad guys"? Men.
Even when women are portrayed as being just as skillful and strong as men, male characters still make up the fodder when the monster/alien/villain decimates the good guys forces AND male characters still make up the enemy forces when the good guys bust in guns ablazing
ColonelCosmic 6 months ago
A memory from university of some sort of lecture in which the lecturer handed round his reproduction mediaeval broadsword. The sword was handed from man to man and all of us could hold it with one hand, although it was heavy. The sole woman present expressed her irritation when no one had handed it to her and so it was passed to her. She could not hold it with two hands and very nearly let it fall. Only prompt action stopped it from falling onto the head of the man in front of her.
WilliamGruff 6 months ago
Honestly why do women go to war to actually fight. Is it to prove a point? Or what? Because there's no point. They wouldn't survive in actual combat and the male soldiers would always have to look out for her.
Dannyxlz 6 months ago
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Dannyxlz 6 months ago
There are tough women out there but they not smoking hot models. Most guys in the military will tell you that there are some women who want special treatment and use their gender, than their are the other ones whom do the job. After awhile the men forget their women cuse they kinda have to. They have to lock in their brains this is a man with a vagina bacause testorone goes crazy when ur sexually starved. It can even make a man think lady gaga is hot.
stumodman 6 months ago
Yes but Hollywood is a business. It's better for your bottom line if you can appeal to more then half the population.
mikemcdonald113 7 months ago 3
Joss Whedon has to be the master of the "powerful sexy female". I always laugh because it's such a ridiculous fantasy. The ethos seems to be, "I can outfight any man, and I look sexy doing it too!" The characters are pimped-up Barbie dolls with hyper-surreal combat abilities, absolutely nothing like real people. Of course, there are blatantly exaggerated portrayals of men too (Rambo etc.), but these at least have some small basis in reality.
lyris1 8 months ago
Hollywood portrays these "uberwenchen" all too often. But then who really believes anything hollywood tells you.
taffwob 9 months ago
What the Fuck Womans are a fuucking AND NOT BETTER AS MEN!!!
ITS NOT BETTER TO BE THE PERSON WHO IS FUCKED UP HAHAHA BITCHES.
PsychoMikeOriginal 10 months ago
@PsychoMikeOriginal Can't wait to buy your book
Abobojo 9 months ago
By having a woman in the S.A.S in ultimate force i couldn't take the show seriously and stopped watching it because no woman is allowed in ANY elite or special forces regiment in the British armed forces
infidel1978 10 months ago
10 stars
uratrick 10 months ago
"With this, I can shoot the dick off a hummingbird."
I find it interesting that the aggression shown is not simply women being tough, but women being aggressive against men. The theme is very interesting, because the woman usually shows her toughness by humiliating and emasculating the man, not simply by being tough.
chrisman737 10 months ago
@chrisman737 Could not have stated that better myself.
Abobojo 9 months ago
@chrisman737 I agree, That's stupid. Women should be tough by just being tough and portrayed as complete human beings. IMO this new stereotype of the uber-tough woman is just as shallow and one-dimensional as the more traditional stereotype of women as stupid, weak, and incompetent.
It reveals that the collective consciousness still has trouble seeing women as complete human beings.
BoggiD101 5 months ago 2
Invariably, what Hollywood does to make women the equal or superior to men is to make every male around her inferior, incompetent, and stupid.
TheWyldeGoose 10 months ago
@TheWyldeGoose True.
jakestep17 10 months ago
There are exceptions to every rule, and there are women who can do what men do. It isn't common and we are promoting male traits as normal while completely denegrading natural female skills as being worthless. This harms everyone (whatever happened to respect?! That's probably been my push to be as capable as any male: I don't get respected as a woman with female abilities, only male abilities are worth anything in society). As for magic isn't imagination and dreaming more of a feminine trait?
TwyztdValkyrie 10 months ago
@TwyztdValkyrie Let's put this in another way. Men are expected, by default, to be handy at a wide range of abilities. Even if a man has, for instance, never handled cement in his life, he's expected to be able to manage whatever task with it. Women never are. Men are expected to be useful. Women never are. The key word here is "expected." I think it is denigrating to women NOT to expect and demand competence.
TheWyldeGoose 10 months ago
Ana Lucia CAN train an army, trust me.:) It's possible as it was actually all in Jack's head.
Speirsbg 11 months ago
From this point forward. Phuck hollywood.
FingSpaghettiMonster 11 months ago
Manwomanmyth,
What you are doing is so supremely important and well done, I am in awe. I thank you so very much.
Los Angeles
FingSpaghettiMonster 11 months ago
I just watched Saw 3 again last night, and it reminded me of this video. A woman getting hit in the back twice with a pipe, punched in the face, and getting her faced slammed against the wall 5 times, is still able to thwart off and kill a trained (and completely pissed off) police officer.
SoggyPizzaPockets1 11 months ago
This Hollywoood mis-representation of the reality of women's true strength is actually most dangerous to women themselves. Especially when they get out on the street, get over confident and yell at some guy they never met. They would be drawn into a false sense of security and then obliterated (physically) by the man they attack. (Verbally or otherwise).
Xcorgi 1 year ago 14
@Xcorgi
Unless... uh... they're stronger than the guy they yell at?
NO one should go through life with false sense of security when it comes to provoking strangers - not women, not men (dealing with other men, and women too).
Even if you're a trained Kung Fu Wrestler champion, there are still ways a stranger on the street could do you severe damage under the right circumstances - don't start conflicts that could result in violence, full stop.
However, the "reality" of female strength...
twooffour 1 month ago
@Xcorgi
... is that they're statistically weaker than men - not that they're AUTOMATICALLY so.
Any trained woman is STRONGER than an untrained (or less trained) man. Any woman with combat experience and training, CAN KICK A DUDE'S ASS.
If you disagree, why don't you go challenge a female bodybuilder, or wrestler, and see how that turns out? They'll probably refuse out of sympathy, and you'll go all Black Knight from Monty Python on them.
twooffour 1 month ago
@Xcorgi
So basically, YOU're suffering from a false sense of security, if you really believe that you can just yell at / attack any woman on the street, and get away unharmed if they get really pissed at you.
Independent of gender, if you want to yell at people on the street, you should better be good at estimating their strength and skills - but the possibilities of doing that are very limited.
twooffour 1 month ago
@twooffour First of all try commenting on what was actually said. I myself saild nothing about yelling at or attacking women. For that you are totally fucked in the head. Also, the point I'm making is that take ANY man and woman that are the same age, weight and height, and the man will win against her every time. Once again, don't lie to your daughters to give them a false sense of security because they guy they attack could get them raped or murdered. I say this as a protective father .
Xcorgi 1 month ago
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@Xcorgi
"I myself saild nothing about yelling at or attacking women. For that you are totally fucked in the head."
Exactly. And the fact that you specifically mentioned women yelling at men being dangerous for the women, but not the other way around, implied that you thought, well, this:
"take ANY man and woman that are the same age, weight and height, and the man will win against her every time"
WRONG. So wrong, it defies the Spacetime of Space.
Just how out of touch do you have to be...
twooffour 1 month ago
@Xcorgi
... in order to make such a MORONIC statement? People of your stupidity should never be allowed to raise children.
First of all, age has NOTHING to do with it, because weight and height are largely independent of the age - this goes especially for the adults; in teens, there's a phase where girls are taller than the boys of the same age.
Then, you forgot STRENGTH - what if they're of the same strength? Strength doesn't depend on weight (little hint: if McDonald's were but a niche...
twooffour 1 month ago
@twooffour Time for a little education you fucking retard. People get weaker as they get older so yes, age, weight and hieght play a huge roll even it it's men against men. Quit being so pissed off at the world because you were born a female. My point here is don't put other females with common sense in danger by telling them they are invincible then they go down a dark alley somewhere and get raped and or murdered. I would never tell my daughter such an idiotic lie to put her in danger.
Xcorgi 1 month ago
@Xcorgi
"Quit being so pissed off at the world because you were born a female."
Lol, I'm not.
"People get weaker as they get older so yes"
UNEVENLY. Way to miss the point.
"by telling them they are invincible"
Nice, neither do I. No one is "invincible", and no one should start violent conflicts, I thought I had made that clear in my previous post.
twooffour 1 month ago
@twooffour I noticed the only comment you didnt respond to was the one regarding combat and how your insignificant fresh off the tit ass has NEVER served in the military much less in a war. I also notice you gave no response regarding how your father abandond your sorry ass. Your just a 19 year old raging liberal pussy boy who hasnt got a fucking clue how anything works in this world. What is your obsession with having girls fight men? Are you really that fucked up in the head? Get some help.
Xcorgi 1 month ago
@Xcorgi
"the only comment you didnt respond to was the one regarding combat"
Except I did respond to that - combat is the main topic of this "discussion" after all, you know.
"how your insignificant fresh off the tit ass has NEVER served in the military"
Addressed that one, as well - why don't you go back and read it (after you've learned to)?
"I also notice you gave no response regarding how your father abandond your sorry ass."
Maybe because it was an idiotic, childish, and presumptuous...
twooffour 1 month ago
@Xcorgi
... cheap shot on your part not worth addressing?
But hey, if you insist - my father didn't "abandon" me, we still live under the same roof and get along perfectly fine.
Why you even wanted me to address your moronic "insult" is beyond me.
"how anything works in this world."
You mean, like that if a woman and a man have the same strength and combat skills (and other equal cirumstances), they're a match to each other?
That kind of thing?
twooffour 1 month ago
@Xcorgi
"What is your obsession with having girls fight men? Are you really that fucked up in the head?"
Your retardation starts reaching cosmic levels now... what "obsession"? It's the TOPIC of the "debate" here... you said women couldn't win against men in combat (under "equal circumstance), I said you're wrong.
Girls don't HAVE to fight men, they also shouldn't ATTACK them (no one "should" attack anyone), I'm only saying they still have a chance of winning, whether in attack or defense.
twooffour 1 month ago
@twooffour If your not a female then what is your psychotic obsession with having women fight men? I'm sure it's because youre such a pussy that any other male you've fought has beat the fucking shit our of your scrawny ass. You scroungy little fucking worm. For example. If you were to fight me, I would totally fuck you up and stomp a mud puddle in your ass. So go get a life, find your piece of shit father and learn to be a man yourself once and for all.
Xcorgi 1 month ago
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@Xcorgi
"what is your psychotic obsession with having women fight men?"
Again, no "psychotic obsession", I'm just discussing abilities.
My view is correct, yours is indefensible bullshit.
Quit claiming "psychotic obsessions" in your opponent just because you can't defend your position.
There are no words to describe just how immature, and... unpleasant that is.
"I'm sure it's because youre such a pussy that any other male you've fought has beat the fucking shit our of your scrawny ass."
twooffour 1 month ago
@Xcorgi
What does that even have to do with anything?
FYI, I stopped fighting after primary school - there, I was pretty much in the middle of the chain, as far as "strength" goes.
"For example. If you were to fight me, I would totally fuck you up and stomp a mud puddle in your ass."
Ah, I get it, you're an angry internet tough guy with nothing valid to say. Thanks for blowing your cover!
So what, might makes right? Or even more so, might makes... correct? You think if you beat someone up..
twooffour 1 month ago
@Xcorgi
... that's gonna validate ANY of your points?
But hey, some woman could be stronger than you, and beat YOU up. That would actually validate my point ;)
Confused?
Point is, if you really wanna be a "man", learn to discuss properly, and quit yelling, threatening and waving your arms over the internet - it's stupid, pointless and pathetic.
Of course, that has not so much to do with being a "man", as having tolerable CHARACTER without major insecurities waiting to be revealed.
twooffour 1 month ago