Grey Gardens - Pink Room

[Chuckscott]

John Waters could have produce and directed an amazing Grey Gardens.

[brigitfey]

@Chuckscott Or better yet, he could've cast Little Edie to do cameos in his films like Patty Hearst!

[jujugems]

Don't do it Edie, I'll get SO mad!!

[Bethycakesable]

"Unless a man understands music there's no point in my even meeting him."  Little Edie

[Mike6E]

I don't believe Al Maysles's story saying that Eugene only went to the house for fifteen minutes. How would they know so many details about his life (who he was related to, his birthdate, the fact that he was a twin, etc.). Also because the two women's stories match up so perfectly. Both agree that he showed and an proposed under the window, but Big Edie sent him away because he was poor. I doubt they would sit together and concoct matching lies. Something doesn't add up.

[kayllo15]

"i hope my bathing suite falls off....i hope it does!"

[stilesking]

This Scene was at first humorous and endearing then just heartbreaking. I really feel for these two woman. and to think that at this time outside their world America was gripped by Race violence. And their battling eachother. the only one each of them have.

[betterbblack]

God, I hate that old bitch. SO. Selfish.

[boomerlady]

end of life anger and frustration. sad.

[allhailhotsnail]

is it because it's a ~war~ song big edie hates it?!

[TheLadyjazzy1]

Jealous mama!!

[pusspleaser134]

I think Drew Barrymore deserves an Oscar for playing her!!! they both have captured these people as the life they lived!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BRAVO DREW!!!!!!!!!!!!! Peace  Barb

[NotADood]

@pusspleaser134 It was a made-for-TV movie, so she wouldn't have been eligible for an Oscar. However she did win a Golden Globe and a SAG award. She was also nominated for an Emmy but lost to Jessica Lange as Big Edie.

[dawnten]

Affluent families today still expect their daughters to "marry well". In my family no women ever had a real job. I am the black sheep, seeking real love ending up being independent and buying my own homes, cars etc.They could and would never do for themselves. You would think they would have had respect for that. Heck no. I am beneath them, the black sheep even after finding out that my "Miss perfect mother" had given my siblings up for adoption. Poor Beautiful Little Edie. :(

[dawnten]

It would be interesting to know how Big Edie's mother had treated her. My family had expectations as well. It took forty years before my epiphany that nothing I could or ever would do would make my own mother stop her jealous nasty demeanor which came with the realization that women such as this are so vain and narciccistic have no capacity to love anyone beyond themselves. Its still difficult to live knowing my mother never loved me. Discontinuing contact was the biggest gift to myself. :(

[thisismypassword901]

I don't think Eddie had any mental problems. If anything she probably had no confidence in herself or a sense of independence since everything was done for her, and this was probably caused by her mother. I don't know how people can admire Edith. Personally, I think what she did was wrong and should've let her daughter go.

[figfire]

@thisismypassword901 It's clear that she had mental problems. Both of them did. She shows a lot of signs of paranoia in the documentary.

[thisismypassword901]

@figfire Yeah I figure you're right. There had to be something wrong with them if they didn't see the mess they were living in. A normal person would have done something about it.

[Timmerjax]

God, I hate Big Edie.



[ohmaryjane]

I think Edie and her mom are beautiful women. But, she seems to control her daughter on every level. Edie is trying to express herself, her mother seems to cut it down in every way.

[HotBroodish]

Wish I could hear what each was saying a little better.. Can hardly understand it. It sounds like there was a polish man who took an interest in Little Edie once they started to fall out of society? And what does she mean when she says she had to put up with terrible people coming around? I can make assumptions but would love some real information.

[eupelia]

What a beautiful natural presentation of a dysfunctionally functional relationship....it's sad and funny and charming all at once

[MiamiPush2theLimit]

3:10 - 3:42 the way Big Edie talks to Little Edie reminds me so much of my mother. My God...

[rynwin1]

Couldn't she have just worn a wig?? I mean the scarves were just gaudy after a while.

[mwb1089]

I just love them. Sure...they are a little much and had their share of crazy, but they were so fun. Whenever I feel low or just plain pissed, I can watch them and all is swell. It's funny because they lived life but didn't. Interesting gals.

[michelleleawaldrop1]

oh god in heaven please don't let her bathing suit fall off

[afoolnluv35]

@michelleleawaldrop1 lol...beginning @ 2:53 when she says she hopes something falls off...then she says something did fall off! hilarious. i thought i was the only person who noticed this.

[jenniferashley99]

It's sad how Little Edie died. What I find interesting was they seemed trapped by one another and yet Little Edie requested not to be buried by her mother..instead her ashes where scattered throughout the ocean.

[AngeliaClaire]

The mother there didn't want to be alone needed a maid. A doting loving daughter. screw men I bet she thought. She is nuts. I would lose my hair with all that nagging and bitching too! SHEESE! Yeah cover yourself with a turtleneck instead of a robe what a trend setter. NOT!

[AngeliaClaire]

The mother there didn't want to be alone needed a maid. A doting loving daughter. screw men I bet she thought. She is nuts. I would lose my hair with all that nagging and bitching too! SHEESE!

[AngeliaClaire]

The mother there didn't want to be alone needed a maid. A doting loving daughter. screw men I bet she thought. She is nuts.

[caleb6868]

Two personalities trapped by each other .

[duartefilnetcabo]

My compliments for being here publishing this. I consider most of comments - let's make justice to the guys, I just saw one or two! - as frivolous. You don't feel, gentlemen and ladies! That's something to regret for. In many respects it is a framework of a successful relationship to conflict and an authentic and in many respects courageous example of life. HUMANITY. Does that rings any bell on you?

[caleb6868]

It should be called a life show.

[JelloFarming]

"Something fell out just then" Ya, it was your old weathered boob that fell out Big Edie and it was your own fault for using a sweater for a halter top!

[babyygrl555]

How sad. Little Edie was absolutely gorgeous and she was stuck in the house. She needed to be independent and you can tell that's what her personality is and she was never married and never had children.

[jpschubbs]

Good Lord. How unfortunate.

[FunKills1969]

It is not a reality show, as this indicates some sort of scripting and sensationalism. It is a pure documentary, made by the best filmmakers we have ever seen in this genre. The Maysles are respectful of their subjects, whereas reality shows show no love for their subjects. There is no "blame" to be placed here, not on Big or Little Edie. They loved eachother. Litlle Edie was not "held" anywhere. The perfect documentary! (The "movie" was an abortion & I want Drew Barrymores head on a plate.)

[Iittleblackchook]

I never had a minutes fun ... Not a minute !

[liisaks]

An awful story, but fascinating.

They lost everything through having serious mental problems (basing this on the film - not real evidence).

Little Edie could always have left home - for whatever reasons she chose not to. Her mother obviously didn't help, but its not fair to blame everything on her.

[mmdillon1]

After realizing neither $ nor other developments (fame, marriage, etc.) when the Maysles' showed their film, little Edie was desperate to sell the house and move to a smaller place closer to PEOPLE. But big Edie said she couldn't sell the house as long as she (big Edie) was alive. She refused to share her daughter with ANYONE. Little Edie was pushed to the edge of sanity by her control-freak, selfish mother. I don't blame her for offing that old bag. An accident with her walker? Yeah, right...

[creolelady182]

Thats the reason why Phlelan beale left Big Edie, becasue she was a self indulgent selfish manipulative monster and thats why her daughter had mental problems. So typical of privileged women who think that the man needs to support them financially for life. They could'nt get or hold a job if they tried.

[57timmyb]

@creolelady182 Big Eadie was controlling but she too was a victim of her time, her class, and the fact that her financial life was dictated by men. She did what women of her class were raised to do; marry well. What she wouldn't do is spend her time going to social events with society women. She was singer and wanted a career to which her husband objected to and stifled. Neither one of these women were able to live the life they wanted.

[creolelady182]

@57timmyb

Little Edy's father GOT HER A JOB WHEN SHE WAS IN nEW yORK BUT REFUSED TO STICK WITH IT BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT THAT THE MAN SHOULD SUPPORT HER FOR LIFE WITHOUT QUESTION, SO DO NOT GIVE ME THAT CRAP ABOUT BEING WOMEN OF A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD-THE FACT IS THEY DID NOT WANT TO WORK-THEY DID NOT EVEN CLEAN THEIR HOUSE OR DO YARD WORK.

[57timmyb]

@creolelady182 Thank you for putting me in my place. You sound like of those "mean nasty Republicans" little Edie refers to.

[creolelady182]

@57timmyb

No I am not a nasty Republican-just a person who is realistic and fended for myself .Although my parents could have picked up the tab for everything -they chose to teach my brother and I how to manage money, get a bank account at age 12 , do taxes and my brother and I got our first summer job at age 12. They taught us well and that why we manage our lives today.

[57timmyb]

@creolelady182 Kudos to your parents for instilling good values in you. More of that would be a good thing. Not everyone is lucky to be guided well. Too bad they couldn't give you some heart too.

[creolelady182]

@57timmyb

Heart don't pay the bills

[duartefilnetcabo]

@creolelady182 Oh oh oh! That 's no reason to see the difference as bad, honey. Is it?

[duartefilnetcabo]

@creolelady182

Ooh! Another lady who represses herself! That shows up as she writes this way folks.

"Why?", would you ask. Well, look how she blames whoever acts differently - even without understanding the nature of his or her responses to life. Much to look into, yes?

[duartefilnetcabo]

@57timmyb

Ah! Much better! Only... there are no victims, dear! Only men and women who choose differently for various reasons! How assertive this guy, no?!

[AngeliaClaire]

newspaper for a tablecloth? Watching this drives me to clean.

[AngeliaClaire]

newspaper for a tablecloth?

[AngeliaClaire]

newspaper for a tablecloth? 

[treasurehiding9]

Priceless!!!!!!!!

[thebjm1967]

i love that pink room! it is a shame the new owners demolished that sun deck!

[superhetoric]

"there's an extra knife... i'll put it in the middle."

[iriswhitfield]

Little Eadie was trapped in mind and spirit. She clearly never ages in her mind.

No she is not mentally ill, just trapped. I see a few signs of bi-polar but mainly -- depression from leaving the real world.

[kory9]

@iriswhitfield Good perception.

[rootbeeronbroadway]

both of their stories hold such power and emotion that each of these ladies deserve their own film <3

[DejayWhatsUp]

So filled with life, but its so sad. =(

[traceymanzano]

I love how edie sings all the time! the mom is a giant NAG!

[traceymanzano]

How crazy! Ediie is  the positive energy while her mom is a nag! The mother dishes out insults and threats each time she wants to shut edie up

[hilljayne]

This is heart wrenching. I love Little Edie so much.

[LastChanceLife]

Little Edie is acting out and openly defying her mother's pleas for silence as protest for bitter feelings she harbored against her mother's meddling in her love life. My favorite line is "You've had enough fun all your life. I haven't had one minute of fun, not one minute,"

"Everything is perfectly disgusting on account of you."

[Gaygarious]

Did mental illness run in the Bouviers? Can anyone tell me? I'd love to know... I guess I'd like to know because I think it would make great small or large talk... at a party or on the bus or at the supermarket... I really would like to know!

[EuroMix77]

@Gaygarious:: I am not a therapist or psychoanalyst but I did work in psychology, & with patients of clinical disorders for four years... I have to say that I come from a conservative family, per se' very much like the Beales, etc... When one comes from a family like this, there are many expectancies, esp. per the women. Though I'm a male I feel the pull of familial expectancies, lineage and to know who you are. It's tiring and can drive anyone mad.

[Gaygarious]

@EuroMix77 I could have had a similar situation with my mother, but I broke away from those "ties" and through therapy and learned to be me!

[Julietwink]

Last night I saw Grey Gardens on HBO. I had never heard of this, but the film w/ Drew Barrymore & Jess.Lange was a very accurate portrayal I now discover. Wow; very accurate indeed.

I cried in both sadness & joy for these women. I can understand their denial to their environment because after a while of living in sadness you just don't see the clutter. Your mind protects itself. Theirs is a most extreme example, but I can see how it could happen. Poor little ladies God Bless them.

[bessieSmith]

Ha Ha! I've got to have some professional music.

[badpenny1118]

Look at how cheap those food prices were...(expensive when the minimum wage was $1.50 though). Little Edie was hilarious...she seems to have had a great sense of humor.

[crackrockcandy]

i've got to have some professional music!

[AniceAct]

haha.. is this a reality show or soap opera?

... they are so funny, but yet it's sad..especially for Little Edie! Big Edie was selfish by keeping Little Edie from being independent..she literally ran her daughter crazy.

[queenofexcess1]

@AniceAct It was considered a documentary, but it probably could go down in the books as one of the very first true reality shows!

[kakadoodoo3000]

@queenofexcess1 exactly what i was thinking! LOL

[AniceAct]

@queenofexcess1 So true! This is like a damn reality show, haha!

[labz77]

@AniceAct

People always criticise Big Edie. I don't think we really know how it was, or should judge. They were both wonderful.

[AniceAct]

@labz77 calling it how I see it.. it's reality, some mothers smother and hold back their grown children to keep them around. sad.

[labz77]

@AniceAct according to the Maysles, the Eugene guy was a travelling salesman who came by the house once, and didn't know Edie at all, but she turned it into a great drama about how her mother had prevented her marrying an aristocrat.

[Cloudleaf13]

I'm having trouble distinguishing whether this is a deleted scene from the movie or a part of the actual documentary...

[queenofexcess1]

@Cloudleaf13 I'm pretty sure I took this from 'The Beales Of Grey Gardens'.

[KekoaOnorati]

@queenofexcess1 Actually I believe it comes from the original documentary somewhere towards the very end. I remember watching it with a group of friends and seeing everyone go nuts over Big Edie's "boob shot".

[kswytak]

@Cloudleaf13 It's from the original film, how can you forget big edie's wardrobe malfunction?

[Cloudleaf13]

@kswytak lol woops. My bad. x)

[kswytak]

@Cloudleaf13 Grey Gardens and The Beales blend together in my memory as well, but I remembered sharing the film with my sister way before I saw "The Beales" and I tied a sweater around my torso right before that scene for dramatic effect. ;-)

[Cloudleaf13]

@kswytak Lolz!

[jsbach15]

@Cloudleaf13 Theses are the real Beales of Grey Gardens.

[figfire]

@Cloudleaf13 It is a scene from the documentary. You should watch it. I streamed it on Netflix.

[lukemack]

not crazy....artistic temperment....only other artists can understand

[3909clancy]

Its like watching two patients in the mental ward

[yellowwitch1]

there is a name for the disease that makes people live in filth, can't remember what it is, but this has got nothing to do with poverty or wealth or the fact they didn't have any money to keep the house. very sad...

[rscmrcmd]

@yellowwitch1 yeah, they're called slobs.

[yellowwitch1]

@rscmrcmd to be honest, I think they are not functioning, its more than being a slob! and they are probably drunk too...

[cbrun67176]

The strange part is when they contacted the man little Edie was talking about in the end it turned out at the most they had only had a 5 min conversation and that was it.

[KKfromTN]

Now this is the kind of reality show I could and would watch everyday. I can not stop watching Big Edie and Little Edie. I never tire of them.

These are two of the most wonderful and entertaining humans that ever lived. I just love them both!!!

[iddntneedtocthat]

"There's an extra knife, I'll put it in the middle." LOLLLL WHAAAT

[NJHater]

@iddntneedtocthat lol, i laughed at that part too

[danyelejames]

thats soo sad i saw the movie and could not stop crying the way they lived was just,just so sad no one should be that way and poor little eidie she never had a chance to live her life she was stuck in that dirty pit of a house with her crazy mother that minipulated her into staying there,misurabley..............­............it just seemed like they where both crazy and ill but,they were just blocked from the world

[cbrun67176]

lol that saggy tittied freak

[TheLadyjazzy1]

poor little edie!! trapped in that dump and taking care of big edie!! glad she had a few years without her!! rip little edie!!!

[sleepypoodle]

I feel very angry with the Maysles for allowing the footage of Big Edie revealing her boobs to be shown.

These women had little remaining dignity as it was, and that scene was so unnecessary.

[kraftymomma1979]

i agree it was unnecessary. I don't know that Big Edie lost her dignity though; she was a very strong lady regardless of how the men in her life neglected her needs and rights. Her decision to be reclusive was part of how she kept her dignity, I think.

[sleepypoodle]

I didn't mean that they were undignified but that the media and East Hampton residents strove to rob them of their dignity by casting judgments based on the choices they made which were contrary to the pre-conditioned expectations of 'normal' society.

[computerhoney]

funny at 2:30 when she says im your mother remember me ?--also when she says her voice is beautifully trained an she never tried to attract men with it --too much --but very sad --so eccentric --in todays society they may have gone far

[asoberprep]

I loved when she said that too "I'm your mother! remember me!" It's amazing to me the daughter wasn't committed she seemed so crazy yet she was an English Lit major.

[sleepypoodle]

I don't think that either lady was 'crazy', but having a degree in English Lit. does not provide proof of sanity; it's quite possible to be an intellectual but also insane. Moreover, the mental illness of 'endogenous depression' may affect those of above average intelligence with a propensity for deep thought or highly analytical natures because their sensitive or empathetic natures may result in deeply disturbed psyches, disillusion, hopelessness and profound disappointed in our flawed world.

[KOHANDOOZ]

3:09- 3:17 that dialogue breaks my heart. Little Eddie didnt have a chance at her own life...

[RetroVGamer]

I was born Nov 14th. That freaked me out when she said that, Hehe.

[bluregard7]

haha..i love them both

[TheLadyjazzy1]

too bad big edie was soooo jealous of little edie!!

[jaysmic24]

poor lil edie..she should have eloped with eugene! :(

[MollyAnnaD]

I cant stop wondering why little Edie, didnt clean up all the mess, with dirth filth and empty cans of catfood??+ was she too posh or what was the problem? It seems like their both werent aware of the dirt they were living in?? Strange...that they just wont wake up and see that they live in a total misery....

[giannireb68]

East Hampton only had private garbage pickup in those days (I think it still does) The only alternative was to drive your trash to the dump. For a long time the ladies would have somebody (a gardener or handyman) help out for a couple of bucks, but by the late 60's they were virtually penniless so they simply let the trash fill up room by room. They could of just tossed it outside but believe or not, they were afraid of what the neighbors would think.

[sleepypoodle]

I don't see why Jerry couldn't have helped a bit more, he just seemed like a lazy, opportunistic sponger, he's still capitalising from them even today by selling signed photographs for fifty dollars apiece on his website, but the less said about him the better.

[yellowwitch1]

@MollyAnnaD I think they were mentally ill. and probably very lazy people at the same time. I mean big eddie was 35 when her husband left, couldn't she get a f**ing job like everyone else??

[TheLadyjazzy1]

love them both!!! they both drank a lot. that was the downfall for both of them. the house was a mess and they just really didn't care!! they sang and danced their troubles away. they loved fighting with each other and then making up. so funny. GOD BLESS THEM!!

[Lexkiddo]

Why does she call whatever it was she was wearing a bathing suit?That was always funny to me.

[EtrangerStranger]

"I'm your mother, remember me?!"

God, I love this women.

[goldengirl67]

It's as if lil Edie is goding her mother, taunting her to the breaking point with that annoying song.

[Mike6E]

The best part is Big Edie yelling at her at the top of her lungs and Little Edie not being affected by it at all. I love these women.

[rscmrcmd]

"Well my voice is beautifully trained. I never tried to attract men with it." How funny.

[TRISTADOLL]

i havent looked through all the comments but.............. AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICE LITTLE EDIE WITHOUT AND THEN SUDDENLY WITH MAKE UP??!!! WHAT THA!?

[cuddlyangl]

I noticed it but this was edited for the documentary and they filmed hours of footage so it's probably spliced somewhere.

[giannireb68]

The most exquisite mutual torture I have ever seen. And as for the viewer, well, we will never know who's telling the REAL truth, will we? Just for that these gals deserve two films a cable feature and a musical.

[sophizzy]

Edie's revenge!

[NikkiClo]

Big Edie is so funny, love when her dress falls off she is priceless..how did the two brothers filming not wet themselves laughing?!

[FredericaBimble]

"I've got to have some professional music!" Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha........

[xelaresom27]

Something fell off just then.

[Messylin]

"I hope my bathing suit falls off - I HOPE IT DOES!!!"

[rainbowpills]

fuck. this reminds me of my family.

[JelloFarming]

I think her boob fell out at 2:54

[trinitee79]

so sad. poor lil edie, who gave in to her mentally abusive and manipulative mother.

she really could have been famous.

[Team180B]

@trinitee79 she is famous!

[taraniso]

"he's..32, and she's 52!"

[Enslaved10]

A even crazier family than the Jacksons.,

[dragonfly4evr]

LMAO>>>I have to say though Little Edie is like a petulant child. I think she behaves the way she does just to get under Big Edies skin.

[dragonfly4evr]

Big Edie wasn't really very nice to her

[giannireb68]

"A strong hand said the priest..."

[dugger80]

Wow, Jessica and Drew got there portrayals straight on- amazing. Both Edies were very interesting people.

[sookiestackhouse2u]

little edie, you're my hero!!!!

[Valapaca]

The mother drove little edie nuts...

[renejosundvall]

I'm seriously thinking BIG Edie made little Edie nuts! After BE died, LE had a fairly normal life in Florida.

[AdArmand]

"I think that was ABSOLUTELY cruel to drive the ONLY beau away!!!!"

[justinbluehall]

"Everything is perfectly disgusting on a count of you!" "You did it!"

[swampzoid]

"my voice is beautiful and trained"

[mbjp100]

the most fascinating mother and daughter to ever grace this earth.