But where are these representatives who are willing to deny themselves power and popularity going to come from in this generation? The people that could serve in the manner you're describing would be hated and reviled for standing up and speaking out for self denial and altruism. At least, for what it's worth, that's the way I see it. I wouldn't mind seeing you run for a seat :D
So essentially, your saying that we should go back to the original form similar to the Confederation? I can agree to that to an Extent, I feel that people should actually pay more attention to this stuff.
At first when I read the title I was going to say that people need to have a say in there government system, but now I understand how we can still do that without voting, but now I don't understand why the voting system changed so much. If the original system worked and was the right way to vote then why did it change? and how can people who don't know anything about government change the system back?
@abnormal4 It changed for political reasons. I don't know for sure how well the system worked previously but I do know that the change that was made wasn't made for the right reasons. It was to ensure that our newly formed (at the time) two party system could remain a two party system. Since it was noted that the people tended to favor Democrats and Republicans the voting was changed so that primarily Democrats and Republicans could get and retain office.
so if every state has it's own needs, what's the point of unifing as a country? why doesn't each state just become a country and as it pleases? what is so important about a central government? is it money? to have more of it so there is a stronger economy?
Voting is bullshit. If you want to influence politics and legislation become a millionaire, hire lobbyists, make huge campaign donations to politicians and then give them a high paying position in your company when they retire from politics. Fuck corruption.
@manofthehourmagazine The point is and I stress this (if you can connect the dots) is that based on Libertarian ideology people are just too stupid to vote the President and that we should revert back to a different system of electing officials. It is the idea of inserting one's own view as the dominate view yet in this case suggesting that it is for the good of the people. So in the end people are self accountable for whom they vote for president like everything else.
I have always believed that voting for the next President isn't for me since I lack an interest in learning who the candidates are. This video actually helped me put into words something I can say to those who tell me to vote when telling them "I don't know who to vote for" isn't enough.
Carlin said it better. "Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. F*ck Hope.'"
@amanjohnx Thanks, you helped me understand a bit more not only about the history of our political system but legitimate operations of electing political officials.
@chaoticoli09 I feel exactly! the same way. For example, the coercion of government is so blatantly obvious, as is the collaboration between elites and politicians, but it's difficult to find the proper arguments to make without projecting generalizations as if the words government, politicians, and elites symbolize an entire faction. Also eliminating emotions is difficult in certain discussions.
@AmanJohnX What I wish to study is the presentment of "complex" material, such as politics (complex is obviously subjective), and find a way to keep the core concepts intact while explaining the material to the masses (Plebeians). I want to do it better than everyone else (not just make a claim and expect people to hear me out, but draw them somehow, perhaps the incitement of them or bringing up a point that attacks common misconceptions about the topic). I find you are excellent with this.
Unless you're the median voter, your vote will not change the election. Candidates are trying receive the median vote, that's why during the national election and even the primaries candidates seem to take similar campaign platforms. This strategy is focused on keeping the race close in hopes of winning the election.
I think u touch on a good point: community involvement. Most people don't b/c they feel that their vote doesn't make a difference. If states did have more power then maybe more ppl would vote. It's definitely troubling that less than 40% of Americans vote.
the thing is in the 90s when bill clinton was president proves your ending of your rant to be wrong the econmy was great under him and he got us out of debt and he got us a huge surplus and created millions of jobs
we vote for the senaters and the congress people its on the ballot as well you just have to know where to look and you can also do a write in vote if the ballot is missing it because there are somethings not on the ballot that you are just supposed to know about
states still choose the president like they always have the only problem is that the top 1% controlls what the president will do and right now the top 1% rules over 40% of the world and i would love for alan grayson to become president and know a lot of people who are doing a write in vote for him
the problem with your health care thing is that with alan graysons public option plan it would have been states opt out and people could opt out but the republicans didnt like that so we ended up getting a crapy bill that i would rather have then nothing and the bill goes under the 14th amendment that obama passed so its not breaking consitution and right now the biggest problem is THE GOVERNMENT DOESNT HAVE ANY POWER ITS THE TOP 1% TELLING THE GOVERMENT WHAT TO DO
louis from the david pakman show has said the same thing about voting i know that its not going to happen with nobody voting and the founding fathers did like democracy because they started the whole people vote for who they want to be president so to say that they didnt like democracy is just moronic
Don't worry, whether or not the you vote, an electoral college is put in place to vote for you. Ultimately deciding who our leaders will be. Thank you founding fathers. And welcome to a republic, where we're incorrectly represented.
@ZhugeNaut Sure, Identity projection, if that's what you want to believe =) Anyways, you're a little off on the motivations behind the confederacy and all the intricacies of federalism...it's really not that hard to learn - check out the book "The Founding of the Democratic Republic" and read EXACTLY for yourself what the dudes who wrote the constitution said.
@ZhugeNaut The Founders knew that without the slavery, the south would never ratify, even though all the founders, being proponents of natural law, had ethical qualms against slavery...all of which were actively against it to the best of their circumstances....some, such as John Adams directly thru legal means in NY state...anyways, they realized it was a sad reality that would fade over time...and it did. Nothing is what it seems, don't be so trite about slavery.
they also dont look into the fact that the EPA and FDA are needed and that ron paul will lower property taxes and help out the top 1% even more then they already are getting helped and how the gold standered that ron paul wants us to go on is one of the main reasons the great depression happened not to mention without the entitlement programs everybodys parents and grandparents will die and that ron paul isnt even for the consitution hes against all women getting safe legal abortions
@AmanJohnX as a canadian citizen, I am glad Obama is in power because in here it give a good image of what title black smart people is in title to have if they work there way up.. maybe you just a plain pariote that just want power of your own state but Obama has what it take to rule your country he is good looking..lol and smart better then yourself?
@IsabelLovee i wish people who like ron paul would actually do research on what he wants to actually do with this country and how it would end up killing a lot of people litterally and getting rid of the EPA will also kill people in other countrys not just americans and same with going on the gold standered
@constitutionalswager Well, Ron Paul and I both studied political philosophy....like REAL political philosophy as in state of nature theories where you start from 0 people, and ask a million ethical questions until you have a full society built on ethics....the founding fathers did this as well, but in a MUCH more pragmatic way....Ron Paul is a man of reason....so was Socrates, and Jesus, and George Washington...notice a trend? =)
@AmanJohnX the problem with philosophys is that they look good on paper only but when they get put into play they are fail and with what ron paul wants to do will kill a lot of people
The person next to you might be an electrician, the girl next to you might be a nurse and the other guy next to you might be a doctor. While you, Aman, is pretty much a genius when it comes to politics. You wouldn't mess around with the electricity in your house, or stitch up your own wound so why should everybody be allowed to vote for a president? They, including me, probably doesn't know enough about politics so we shouldn't be allowed to vote. Simple as that, right?
@KapteinFruit Pretty much as simple! =) Except I can see how people feel entitled to have SOME say in politics seeing as it governs their rule of law...but yes, it's no big deal that some of us know more about electricity, or medicine...or politics =) I may kno a little bit, but I'm a moron with 99.99999999% things in life!
Here is the biggest destroyer of your argument. This country was created by taking the land away from the Native Americans. Essentially over time eradicating them and determining that if they (NA) didn't view landownership in the way in which white settlers did from Europe that it was free to take. So America was not started as a Republic or a Democracy. It was started by a terrorist takeover of land from it's first known settlers.
@manofthehourmagazine Well that doesn't negate my argument whatsoever...to do that I would have actually had to MAKE an argument talking about when and why people should vote...a task I Didn't feel like getting into today...I'm simply stating how the founders laid out voting, not my opinion. Also, it can be argued, not that this is how I feel, that the Native Americans did not have their land taken away from them seeing as they hadn't acquired it "justly"
@AmanJohnX The point is that with that history of how a nation was built on lies and an idea of liberty that extended to some people and not all is the direct reason why people are owed the right to vote for their commander-in-chief. And to piggyback off of one thing Libertairians often argue. By individuals voting for their President, they are self accountable for whom they have chosen to head the nation for at least a 4 year period.
@manofthehourmagazine And that was the biggest type of discrimination and yes you can call it racism. Because if the original 7 were complacent in creating a country at the expense of its original settlers, they too were just as much of a problem as the rest.
@manofthehourmagazine And so my suggestion Aman is to look at American History from more than just the euro-centric perspective and take into account how the founding and the expansion of this nation looked to the Native American, African Slaves and the Mexicans who lost the southwest which was their land. I'm sure then you will come to a different conclusion.
@manofthehourmagazine I can't believe I'm getting this perspective....I've been preaching what you've said since I could remember, I could probably give you MORE to fuel your perspective...I spent most of my teenage years with a deep resentment of "white people" in general for all the "problems" they've caused around the globe via colonialism...but I grew out of that thinking when I looked deeper at the issues.
@AmanJohnX Actually, this is not about a deep resentment of white people or not. I don't have one. Yet because these are the facts of history they strengthen my position that every person (no matter how you feel about it) should continue to be self accountable for their votes and that extends to the President. You can't have selective self accountability. So Americans are accountable to whom they elect as president even if you or I don't like it.
@manofthehourmagazine I mean, do you really think I of all people, am unaware of what happened to the native americans or blacks....but that's an EMOTIONAL appeal...the questions are more of "what entitles somebody to land?" "is ANYONE ever entitled to land?" - "Is it wrong to take froma native people's what isn't actually theirs?" "Is that land theirs?" when you begin to investigate the questions more thoroughly - interesting things happen.
@AmanJohnX And no EMOTIONAL APPEAL. It is just the different realities based history that many Libertarians, Liberals and Conservatives selectively omit from their ideological prospective. By the way I don't follow any particular political ideology because they are all inherently flawed to the point of disillusionment. This sums up the rest of your argument How about I come and take your home? Who says it is yours? If I decide I want your home, your land, etc...
@manofthehourmagazine As long as I believe that you don't own it then it is mines for the taking. Yet if you investigate further they would signed treaties with the Native Americans only to renig on them if they didn't believe the land was theirs to begin with. And here's the Zinger, the European settlers figured out over a period of time that the way THEY viewed ownership of land and the way Native Americans viewed it was culturally different.
@AmanJohnX: So let me answer it in two folds. Whether it was the Jamestown Settlement or the The Pilgrims, knowingly or unknowingly it was the beginning of the end of the Native Americans and Mexicans (in the southwest) as they knew it. Now as for your second question. Yes it bad when you obstruct people's (and here's the zinger) liberties and their rights in-which they were not engaging in criminal activity against the future occupiers, yet were ultimately taken advantage of...
@manofthehourmagazine And seen as savages and in many ways since they were not Christian most of the new settlers over time felt justified in taking in the land. And if they refused to move they just killed them up. So if it is the type discrimination where one steals land from another for their own use and thus creates a system of government which further obstructs the original settlers then I am against that type of discrimination
Its kinda hard to rely on a person to vote for you. The only person you can rely on is yourself, but like you said...the majority of this is our fault. That the mistake of the majorities ignorance and self greed affects the rest of the populous.
I think people could make good judgement, the masses have the ability to make honest good choices. The only problem is the media that propagates them to one idea, a false idea that is then propagated in so many forms they believe its their own.
@MrAthanz Exactly, the Plebians are people who just follow conventions, they may be legitimately good, and want to make honest decisions, but I don't think when it comes to voting we can trust people to make good decisions for president! ONLY at a local level where they actually KNOW what's at stake...a plebian in Ohio should NOT have a say over what a person in Texas should do about healthcare! You rely on yourself to make the FIRST good vote, and that representative vote for the next
@godschild60071 Well, the government need not and should not reflect any religious values...their legitimate role is to protect our rights and implement a few things for kids. That's about it....In today's where there is no Moral/Ethical guidance....the media guides us b/c Religion has failed to use reason to appeal to the non-plebians, and philosophy is too inaccessible to many b/c of their own biases of what philosophy IS. So now, Jersey shore teaches us.
This is kind of ridiculous. People shouldn't vote but you endorse Ron Paul for president? I don't get it. Like @manofthehourmagazine said, your stance on this is unclear.
@trueking2008 Is it ridiculous? Ron Paul is the one candidate MOST in line, if not completely in line with the constitution...which is why I said at the end I hardly ever endorse a candidate, if one person were to make sure people can't vote for president, it'd be Ron Paul...but he'd NEVER say that in the campaign. And your argument assumes I'm "People" what if I don't consider myself a part of the plebian class? In this video I sidestepped that issue for another time.
Is it your opinion that people should not vote? Or is it a fact that the people who who put the country together didn't want us to be able to vote? Clarify.
@manofthehourmagazine It is a fact that the people who put the country together both feared democracy, and did not want people to vote for the president.
@manofthehourmagazine They wanted people to vote...vote where people could actually make good decisions...when the power affects THEM, which was supposed to be local...however, as more power shifts to the central government, more people are trying to get THEIR president, which is a horrible thing as this reflects that the president has mass appeal ....this should not necessarily be the case.
But where are these representatives who are willing to deny themselves power and popularity going to come from in this generation? The people that could serve in the manner you're describing would be hated and reviled for standing up and speaking out for self denial and altruism. At least, for what it's worth, that's the way I see it. I wouldn't mind seeing you run for a seat :D
StraightAheadJazz 1 month ago
and its even better because in my history class we're dealing with america's social and economic history right now :)
incitanemxx 1 month ago
i learn more from you than i do in school ! seriously :)
incitanemxx 1 month ago
great video :)
incitanemxx 1 month ago
I like him too.
Amatullah83 1 month ago
So essentially, your saying that we should go back to the original form similar to the Confederation? I can agree to that to an Extent, I feel that people should actually pay more attention to this stuff.
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At first when I read the title I was going to say that people need to have a say in there government system, but now I understand how we can still do that without voting, but now I don't understand why the voting system changed so much. If the original system worked and was the right way to vote then why did it change? and how can people who don't know anything about government change the system back?
abnormal4 1 month ago
@abnormal4 It changed for political reasons. I don't know for sure how well the system worked previously but I do know that the change that was made wasn't made for the right reasons. It was to ensure that our newly formed (at the time) two party system could remain a two party system. Since it was noted that the people tended to favor Democrats and Republicans the voting was changed so that primarily Democrats and Republicans could get and retain office.
Bromopar 1 month ago
so if every state has it's own needs, what's the point of unifing as a country? why doesn't each state just become a country and as it pleases? what is so important about a central government? is it money? to have more of it so there is a stronger economy?
TheKaitn 1 month ago
have to say i enjoyed your reasoning, good job =)
relaxedpro 1 month ago
Voting is bullshit. If you want to influence politics and legislation become a millionaire, hire lobbyists, make huge campaign donations to politicians and then give them a high paying position in your company when they retire from politics. Fuck corruption.
Shadowlit001 1 month ago
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@manofthehourmagazine The point is and I stress this (if you can connect the dots) is that based on Libertarian ideology people are just too stupid to vote the President and that we should revert back to a different system of electing officials. It is the idea of inserting one's own view as the dominate view yet in this case suggesting that it is for the good of the people. So in the end people are self accountable for whom they vote for president like everything else.
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I have always believed that voting for the next President isn't for me since I lack an interest in learning who the candidates are. This video actually helped me put into words something I can say to those who tell me to vote when telling them "I don't know who to vote for" isn't enough.
shadowata 2 months ago
Carlin said it better. "Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. F*ck Hope.'"
smegmasaurus 2 months ago
@amanjohnx Thanks, you helped me understand a bit more not only about the history of our political system but legitimate operations of electing political officials.
st3jace 2 months ago
@chaoticoli09 I feel exactly! the same way. For example, the coercion of government is so blatantly obvious, as is the collaboration between elites and politicians, but it's difficult to find the proper arguments to make without projecting generalizations as if the words government, politicians, and elites symbolize an entire faction. Also eliminating emotions is difficult in certain discussions.
st3jace 2 months ago
@AmanJohnX What I wish to study is the presentment of "complex" material, such as politics (complex is obviously subjective), and find a way to keep the core concepts intact while explaining the material to the masses (Plebeians). I want to do it better than everyone else (not just make a claim and expect people to hear me out, but draw them somehow, perhaps the incitement of them or bringing up a point that attacks common misconceptions about the topic). I find you are excellent with this.
chaoticoli09 2 months ago
Unless you're the median voter, your vote will not change the election. Candidates are trying receive the median vote, that's why during the national election and even the primaries candidates seem to take similar campaign platforms. This strategy is focused on keeping the race close in hopes of winning the election.
yellowbrickroad 2 months ago
u look so young in this video. but thats good!!! = )
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I also think that it's total BS that states like Iowa have such a say in who should be our next president.
Tregnier52 2 months ago
@Tregnier52 that should be: " most ppl don't VOTE..."
Tregnier52 2 months ago
I think u touch on a good point: community involvement. Most people don't b/c they feel that their vote doesn't make a difference. If states did have more power then maybe more ppl would vote. It's definitely troubling that less than 40% of Americans vote.
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the thing is in the 90s when bill clinton was president proves your ending of your rant to be wrong the econmy was great under him and he got us out of debt and he got us a huge surplus and created millions of jobs
kazooga1234 2 months ago
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we vote for the senaters and the congress people its on the ballot as well you just have to know where to look and you can also do a write in vote if the ballot is missing it because there are somethings not on the ballot that you are just supposed to know about
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states still choose the president like they always have the only problem is that the top 1% controlls what the president will do and right now the top 1% rules over 40% of the world and i would love for alan grayson to become president and know a lot of people who are doing a write in vote for him
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the problem with your health care thing is that with alan graysons public option plan it would have been states opt out and people could opt out but the republicans didnt like that so we ended up getting a crapy bill that i would rather have then nothing and the bill goes under the 14th amendment that obama passed so its not breaking consitution and right now the biggest problem is THE GOVERNMENT DOESNT HAVE ANY POWER ITS THE TOP 1% TELLING THE GOVERMENT WHAT TO DO
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louis from the david pakman show has said the same thing about voting i know that its not going to happen with nobody voting and the founding fathers did like democracy because they started the whole people vote for who they want to be president so to say that they didnt like democracy is just moronic
kazooga1234 2 months ago
Don't worry, whether or not the you vote, an electoral college is put in place to vote for you. Ultimately deciding who our leaders will be. Thank you founding fathers. And welcome to a republic, where we're incorrectly represented.
Orlando2914 2 months ago
the bill of rights...that was drafted 100 years before slavery ended?ROFL.
No. We should let the elites run the whole show. Why give he peons an opinion?
The state theory as you interpret it actually ended when they drafted the constitution.
What youre talking about. Is the confederacy which was the previous form of government.
The argument the confederate states argued. They seceded and called themselves the confederacy.
"The American people are not "intelligent"
Identity projection?
ZhugeNaut 2 months ago
@ZhugeNaut Sure, Identity projection, if that's what you want to believe =) Anyways, you're a little off on the motivations behind the confederacy and all the intricacies of federalism...it's really not that hard to learn - check out the book "The Founding of the Democratic Republic" and read EXACTLY for yourself what the dudes who wrote the constitution said.
AmanJohnX 2 months ago
@ZhugeNaut The Founders knew that without the slavery, the south would never ratify, even though all the founders, being proponents of natural law, had ethical qualms against slavery...all of which were actively against it to the best of their circumstances....some, such as John Adams directly thru legal means in NY state...anyways, they realized it was a sad reality that would fade over time...and it did. Nothing is what it seems, don't be so trite about slavery.
AmanJohnX 2 months ago
they also dont look into the fact that the EPA and FDA are needed and that ron paul will lower property taxes and help out the top 1% even more then they already are getting helped and how the gold standered that ron paul wants us to go on is one of the main reasons the great depression happened not to mention without the entitlement programs everybodys parents and grandparents will die and that ron paul isnt even for the consitution hes against all women getting safe legal abortions
kazooga1234 2 months ago
@AmanJohnX as a canadian citizen, I am glad Obama is in power because in here it give a good image of what title black smart people is in title to have if they work there way up.. maybe you just a plain pariote that just want power of your own state but Obama has what it take to rule your country he is good looking..lol and smart better then yourself?
princessJensa 1 month ago
Ron Paul!!!! And I wish every person would watch this!!
IsabelLovee 2 months ago
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@IsabelLovee i wish people who like ron paul would actually do research on what he wants to actually do with this country and how it would end up killing a lot of people litterally and getting rid of the EPA will also kill people in other countrys not just americans and same with going on the gold standered
kazooga1234 2 months ago
Amazing, albeit tangential, summary of the reality of US politics.
Theobrothers 2 months ago
hey question, do you have a lisp? lol just askin ;)
MsCloclo22 2 months ago
funny a lot of this is what Ron Paul stands for Ron Paul 2012!!!!!!!
constitutionalswager 2 months ago
@constitutionalswager Well, Ron Paul and I both studied political philosophy....like REAL political philosophy as in state of nature theories where you start from 0 people, and ask a million ethical questions until you have a full society built on ethics....the founding fathers did this as well, but in a MUCH more pragmatic way....Ron Paul is a man of reason....so was Socrates, and Jesus, and George Washington...notice a trend? =)
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@AmanJohnX the problem with philosophys is that they look good on paper only but when they get put into play they are fail and with what ron paul wants to do will kill a lot of people
kazooga1234 2 months ago
@AmanJohnX no , don't agree either
bonnevie9 2 months ago
09.50 was the best part.
morhys23 2 months ago
The person next to you might be an electrician, the girl next to you might be a nurse and the other guy next to you might be a doctor. While you, Aman, is pretty much a genius when it comes to politics. You wouldn't mess around with the electricity in your house, or stitch up your own wound so why should everybody be allowed to vote for a president? They, including me, probably doesn't know enough about politics so we shouldn't be allowed to vote. Simple as that, right?
KapteinFruit 2 months ago
@KapteinFruit Pretty much as simple! =) Except I can see how people feel entitled to have SOME say in politics seeing as it governs their rule of law...but yes, it's no big deal that some of us know more about electricity, or medicine...or politics =) I may kno a little bit, but I'm a moron with 99.99999999% things in life!
AmanJohnX 2 months ago
Here is the biggest destroyer of your argument. This country was created by taking the land away from the Native Americans. Essentially over time eradicating them and determining that if they (NA) didn't view landownership in the way in which white settlers did from Europe that it was free to take. So America was not started as a Republic or a Democracy. It was started by a terrorist takeover of land from it's first known settlers.
manofthehourmagazine 2 months ago
@manofthehourmagazine Well that doesn't negate my argument whatsoever...to do that I would have actually had to MAKE an argument talking about when and why people should vote...a task I Didn't feel like getting into today...I'm simply stating how the founders laid out voting, not my opinion. Also, it can be argued, not that this is how I feel, that the Native Americans did not have their land taken away from them seeing as they hadn't acquired it "justly"
AmanJohnX 2 months ago
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@AmanJohnX The point is that with that history of how a nation was built on lies and an idea of liberty that extended to some people and not all is the direct reason why people are owed the right to vote for their commander-in-chief. And to piggyback off of one thing Libertairians often argue. By individuals voting for their President, they are self accountable for whom they have chosen to head the nation for at least a 4 year period.
manofthehourmagazine 2 months ago
@manofthehourmagazine And that was the biggest type of discrimination and yes you can call it racism. Because if the original 7 were complacent in creating a country at the expense of its original settlers, they too were just as much of a problem as the rest.
manofthehourmagazine 2 months ago
@manofthehourmagazine And so my suggestion Aman is to look at American History from more than just the euro-centric perspective and take into account how the founding and the expansion of this nation looked to the Native American, African Slaves and the Mexicans who lost the southwest which was their land. I'm sure then you will come to a different conclusion.
manofthehourmagazine 2 months ago
@manofthehourmagazine I can't believe I'm getting this perspective....I've been preaching what you've said since I could remember, I could probably give you MORE to fuel your perspective...I spent most of my teenage years with a deep resentment of "white people" in general for all the "problems" they've caused around the globe via colonialism...but I grew out of that thinking when I looked deeper at the issues.
AmanJohnX 2 months ago
@AmanJohnX Actually, this is not about a deep resentment of white people or not. I don't have one. Yet because these are the facts of history they strengthen my position that every person (no matter how you feel about it) should continue to be self accountable for their votes and that extends to the President. You can't have selective self accountability. So Americans are accountable to whom they elect as president even if you or I don't like it.
manofthehourmagazine 2 months ago
@manofthehourmagazine I mean, do you really think I of all people, am unaware of what happened to the native americans or blacks....but that's an EMOTIONAL appeal...the questions are more of "what entitles somebody to land?" "is ANYONE ever entitled to land?" - "Is it wrong to take froma native people's what isn't actually theirs?" "Is that land theirs?" when you begin to investigate the questions more thoroughly - interesting things happen.
AmanJohnX 2 months ago
@AmanJohnX And no EMOTIONAL APPEAL. It is just the different realities based history that many Libertarians, Liberals and Conservatives selectively omit from their ideological prospective. By the way I don't follow any particular political ideology because they are all inherently flawed to the point of disillusionment. This sums up the rest of your argument How about I come and take your home? Who says it is yours? If I decide I want your home, your land, etc...
manofthehourmagazine 2 months ago
@manofthehourmagazine As long as I believe that you don't own it then it is mines for the taking. Yet if you investigate further they would signed treaties with the Native Americans only to renig on them if they didn't believe the land was theirs to begin with. And here's the Zinger, the European settlers figured out over a period of time that the way THEY viewed ownership of land and the way Native Americans viewed it was culturally different.
manofthehourmagazine 2 months ago
@manofthehourmagazine Were THEY the ones who came over as pilgrims, or settled in Jamestown in roughly 1600? Is discrimination necessarily bad?
AmanJohnX 2 months ago
@AmanJohnX: So let me answer it in two folds. Whether it was the Jamestown Settlement or the The Pilgrims, knowingly or unknowingly it was the beginning of the end of the Native Americans and Mexicans (in the southwest) as they knew it. Now as for your second question. Yes it bad when you obstruct people's (and here's the zinger) liberties and their rights in-which they were not engaging in criminal activity against the future occupiers, yet were ultimately taken advantage of...
manofthehourmagazine 2 months ago
@manofthehourmagazine And seen as savages and in many ways since they were not Christian most of the new settlers over time felt justified in taking in the land. And if they refused to move they just killed them up. So if it is the type discrimination where one steals land from another for their own use and thus creates a system of government which further obstructs the original settlers then I am against that type of discrimination
manofthehourmagazine 2 months ago
@manofthehourmagazine There is no logical argument for that type of greed.
manofthehourmagazine 2 months ago
Its kinda hard to rely on a person to vote for you. The only person you can rely on is yourself, but like you said...the majority of this is our fault. That the mistake of the majorities ignorance and self greed affects the rest of the populous.
I think people could make good judgement, the masses have the ability to make honest good choices. The only problem is the media that propagates them to one idea, a false idea that is then propagated in so many forms they believe its their own.
MrAthanz 2 months ago
@MrAthanz What do you do about that?
MrAthanz 2 months ago
@MrAthanz Exactly, the Plebians are people who just follow conventions, they may be legitimately good, and want to make honest decisions, but I don't think when it comes to voting we can trust people to make good decisions for president! ONLY at a local level where they actually KNOW what's at stake...a plebian in Ohio should NOT have a say over what a person in Texas should do about healthcare! You rely on yourself to make the FIRST good vote, and that representative vote for the next
AmanJohnX 2 months ago
the goverment is a direct reflection of our society faithless.
godschild60071 2 months ago
@godschild60071 Well, the government need not and should not reflect any religious values...their legitimate role is to protect our rights and implement a few things for kids. That's about it....In today's where there is no Moral/Ethical guidance....the media guides us b/c Religion has failed to use reason to appeal to the non-plebians, and philosophy is too inaccessible to many b/c of their own biases of what philosophy IS. So now, Jersey shore teaches us.
AmanJohnX 2 months ago
This is kind of ridiculous. People shouldn't vote but you endorse Ron Paul for president? I don't get it. Like @manofthehourmagazine said, your stance on this is unclear.
trueking2008 2 months ago
@trueking2008 Is it ridiculous? Ron Paul is the one candidate MOST in line, if not completely in line with the constitution...which is why I said at the end I hardly ever endorse a candidate, if one person were to make sure people can't vote for president, it'd be Ron Paul...but he'd NEVER say that in the campaign. And your argument assumes I'm "People" what if I don't consider myself a part of the plebian class? In this video I sidestepped that issue for another time.
AmanJohnX 2 months ago
MAN YOUR TELLING THE TRUTH.
godschild60071 2 months ago
Is it your opinion that people should not vote? Or is it a fact that the people who who put the country together didn't want us to be able to vote? Clarify.
manofthehourmagazine 2 months ago
@manofthehourmagazine It is a fact that the people who put the country together both feared democracy, and did not want people to vote for the president.
AmanJohnX 2 months ago
@manofthehourmagazine They wanted people to vote...vote where people could actually make good decisions...when the power affects THEM, which was supposed to be local...however, as more power shifts to the central government, more people are trying to get THEIR president, which is a horrible thing as this reflects that the president has mass appeal ....this should not necessarily be the case.
AmanJohnX 2 months ago
Its broken.. ;D
misslisritchh 2 months ago
@misslisritchh >;)
AmanJohnX 2 months ago
Are the views broken or am I the first viewer? O.o
Peeveser 2 months ago
@Peeveser first! =P
AmanJohnX 2 months ago