Oh, poor John, having his free time with Rodney *cough*dates*cough* usurped by Keller! Seriously, she's, like, what, ten years younger than him at ~least~? Personally, I liked Ronon/Keller better. There was a time when I like Shweir too, but that was before I realized that Lizzie was practically eye-raping Shep every chance she got x3 Ah, John, you truly are the Pegasus Galaxy's bitch XD
@gylfie24linole I love Rodney to pieces, find him eminently shaggable & think Hewlett's splendid - but the writers asking us to buy Keller choosing Rodney over Ronon?!? Ronon is capable, competent, SMOKING hot and he has ten times McKay's emotional intelligence. Rodney's great and all, but, SO high maintenance - really, that particular narrative choice read as total fanboy self-insertion of fancying Jewel, rather than considering how her character WOULD behave.
@nomdesouris I know, seriously! I really liked the Ronon/Keller moments in early Season 4 and found them adorable! ^_^ The part in Quarantine when they were about to kiss was the only part of the episode I liked, apart from John freaking out about Teyla's baby x3
@gylfie24linole Oh my god, I just laughed into my pillow for a minute straight. xD Thank you for that, now I'll never be able to watch any of the episodes with Elizabeth 'raping' John again without bursting into giggles.
Also, I think the writers were going to have Ronon/Keller, but they just felt sorry that Rodney never gets the girl, so they wanted him to win over Ronon. But they didn't realize that JF and David Hewlett are totally putting slash undertones in the whole series...;)
Oh, lord, I had no idea that Joe supported it. Oh, I want to bake him a HUGE batch of cookies. Don't care that it was never canon, to know that he respected it: astounding.
BTW, it's not just mediocre shows that get ships, nor shows with weak female roles! Thanks for the upload!
Yeah, there used to be a vid, from a conference, where he said as much, playing up the scenes to go that way when they could've just have been normal. Plus, his joke that he and David are platonic, but 'McKay and Sheppard might not be'. The clip seems to have disappeared, though.
It's called slash, and it's not unique for SGA (other famous examples are Kirk/Spock and Starsky/Hutch). Where there's a mediocre TV show where male friendships are the focus and female characters are reduced to supporting characters, slash fans will write stories exploring these male friendships from a romantic and sexual perspective. I could link you to more comprehensive guides if you're interested. :)
@gaffsie I resent the implication that shows have to be mediocre (which SGA was not) or have females reduced to supporting roles (Elizabeth and Teyla were not supporting) to produce slash! I'm not angry, mind you - but neither of the things you stated have to be true to produce slash. Look at Star Trek DS9, for instance, which had both Garak/Bashir and Bashir/O'Brien despite Kira Nerys easily being the second most important character in the entire show with no lack of screen time.
I kept asking myself that question on how he knew what Rodney's password was. I love their scenes together. Reminds me a lot of Daniel Jackson and Jack O'Neill, and Jim Ellison and Blair Sandburg.
It's little moments like this that makes being a slasher all worth it. :P It's just a shame that the season 5 subtext suggests that it's onesided. John deserves better.
Heres my theory...Rodney was in love with Elizabeth and now shes gone and Rodneys getting over her and John still loves her so is mad at Rodney for getting over her so soon! Okay thats a load of rubbish...it would make a better storyline though...
I don't think John was jealous at all! He was just wondering why Rodney would do something like that on his day off...he didn't come off as jealous...
I guess what they officially went for was John being jealous that his BFF is spending time with a girl rather than him, but in this particular scene I really can't see how you can interpret as anything *but* jealousy with him walking out without another word
I showed this clip to a non-fandom friend of mine (she isn't even a slasher) and even she went with the 'the guy in black is wildly jealous' explanation. :D
He said that while his relationship with David Hewlett was completely platonic "John's relationship with Rodney might not be." The vid pops up every now and then here before it gets taken down.
Seriously, I really don't see how this can be interpreted any other way, even from the *writers'* perspective. This is a bone thrown to us, and we loves it, precious.
@darsynia Well, I'm not a slash fan so maybe that is way I can interpret that differently. But another interpretation would be that John knows what is going on and just wants to hear rodney admitting it, like best friends. And rodney's look could be that he just realized that John didn't buy that very unlikley explanation for Rodney goning to taht mission on a free day.
But i have to admit that the music at the end is kinda pointing in a different direction.
@darsynia Not just JF playing it to our favor...There are times when David Hewlett seems to play it our way too....Example: Season five, "The Shrine." God I love that episode, Rodney says he "Loves" Keller, but then he's running screaming for John's room in the middle of the night? Awesome.
i still have 14 minutes until it downloads, so maybe the next scene is going to eraser the fact that bit WAS SO OBVIOULSY JEALOUS JOHN AND EMBARRASSED RODNEY!
do the directors not have eyes? it was clearly written to make us buy the rodney/keller thing but FAILED UTTERLY since joe and david are clearly pandering to us tinhats. I LOVE IT, OBVS, but wow, i'm gonna have to get someone else to watch it and see what they think.
One of many reasons I love JFlan with a vengeance is that he's really playing up the McShep angle. David helps too, but he's all too often thwarted by the het-anvils the script keeps dropping on us.
Not to mention that these two just work against eachother and off each other in a way that (while I love her) David and Jewel just never will. Stick her back with Ronon, because I just can't take the "romance" scenes between she and Rodney seriously.
john and rodney should have kissed in several episodes.. that would have rocked
scorand 4 months ago
He bites his lip as he leaves aha
ZKY2 6 months ago 4
I don't recall why rodney is mumbling about minidase inhibitors ??
xadam2dudex 8 months ago
@xadam2dudex
Because he wants to remember medical type stuff since he'll be spending some time with Keller.
Usul573 6 months ago
John wasn't jealous, he never had the hots for Dr Keller. He was teasing Rodney. It was caveman that was competing with him for the Doc.
aclays 9 months ago
@aclays Epic missing of the point. It isn't KELLER he has the hots for... ^___^
Windrunner007 8 months ago
Javid. so hot.
FantasticMrPossum 10 months ago
Goddamnit. I was able to go through almost all 5 seasons sans slasher glasses. That's over now.
Atarsamain 10 months ago
Further proof that SGA is a slash-fest.
AlbinoMonkeyC 1 year ago
I only ship McShep because I despise McKeller. ^^
ArmedWithAComputer 1 year ago 4
xD Awww, John was like "Well $%*& you too, then. I'll go have some fun somewhere else." *pout pout pout*
Rodney was like "Awww, damn, I think I upset him...."
<3
SetFireGirl 1 year ago
I'm sorry but John is just to hot and nice to be gay.
Us women have a hard enough time find nice straight guys without the fictional nice guys being unavailable as well. lol
cazanne1992 1 year ago
all you McShep people are , what I like to call, wishful thinking
girlofgaga63 1 year ago
Out of context is out of context.
gilroy 1 year ago
This is a good one for the McShep dynamic. John just doesn't seem to like Keller much at all. ;)
hlotsislove 1 year ago
what epîsode is this clip from?
yopipo2486 1 year ago
This is awesome.
hlotsislove 1 year ago
Oh, poor John, having his free time with Rodney *cough*dates*cough* usurped by Keller! Seriously, she's, like, what, ten years younger than him at ~least~? Personally, I liked Ronon/Keller better. There was a time when I like Shweir too, but that was before I realized that Lizzie was practically eye-raping Shep every chance she got x3 Ah, John, you truly are the Pegasus Galaxy's bitch XD
gylfie24linole 1 year ago
@gylfie24linole I love Rodney to pieces, find him eminently shaggable & think Hewlett's splendid - but the writers asking us to buy Keller choosing Rodney over Ronon?!? Ronon is capable, competent, SMOKING hot and he has ten times McKay's emotional intelligence. Rodney's great and all, but, SO high maintenance - really, that particular narrative choice read as total fanboy self-insertion of fancying Jewel, rather than considering how her character WOULD behave.
John/Rodney is a much easier sell
nomdesouris 1 year ago
@nomdesouris I know, seriously! I really liked the Ronon/Keller moments in early Season 4 and found them adorable! ^_^ The part in Quarantine when they were about to kiss was the only part of the episode I liked, apart from John freaking out about Teyla's baby x3
Ronon/Keller and McShep FTW!!!!!
gylfie24linole 1 year ago 2
@gylfie24linole Oh my god, I just laughed into my pillow for a minute straight. xD Thank you for that, now I'll never be able to watch any of the episodes with Elizabeth 'raping' John again without bursting into giggles.
Also, I think the writers were going to have Ronon/Keller, but they just felt sorry that Rodney never gets the girl, so they wanted him to win over Ronon. But they didn't realize that JF and David Hewlett are totally putting slash undertones in the whole series...;)
SetFireGirl 1 year ago
whitc ep is this
Kullgutt39 1 year ago
I just love how John catches Rodney primping and then flounces out of there!
intheparlance 2 years ago 3
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what are people on about? john is not sad! geez
kwikcucumber 2 years ago
Oh, lord, I had no idea that Joe supported it. Oh, I want to bake him a HUGE batch of cookies. Don't care that it was never canon, to know that he respected it: astounding.
BTW, it's not just mediocre shows that get ships, nor shows with weak female roles! Thanks for the upload!
looneyngilo2 2 years ago 4
Wait, are you serious?! He really supports it? How did you find out about this little gem of information?! :D
Celestialess 2 years ago 3
Yeah, there used to be a vid, from a conference, where he said as much, playing up the scenes to go that way when they could've just have been normal. Plus, his joke that he and David are platonic, but 'McKay and Sheppard might not be'. The clip seems to have disappeared, though.
looneyngilo2 2 years ago 6
Really?
He hinted at that, odd.
Maybe he's just toying with us.
Usul573 2 years ago
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Can someone please explain to me the strange obsession a lot of SGA fans have with John and Rodney getting it on?
zaqqazxsw 2 years ago
It's called slash, and it's not unique for SGA (other famous examples are Kirk/Spock and Starsky/Hutch). Where there's a mediocre TV show where male friendships are the focus and female characters are reduced to supporting characters, slash fans will write stories exploring these male friendships from a romantic and sexual perspective. I could link you to more comprehensive guides if you're interested. :)
gaffsie 2 years ago 37
@gaffsie I resent the implication that shows have to be mediocre (which SGA was not) or have females reduced to supporting roles (Elizabeth and Teyla were not supporting) to produce slash! I'm not angry, mind you - but neither of the things you stated have to be true to produce slash. Look at Star Trek DS9, for instance, which had both Garak/Bashir and Bashir/O'Brien despite Kira Nerys easily being the second most important character in the entire show with no lack of screen time.
simplystreeptacular 6 months ago
You say obsession, like it's a bad thing ;) It's slash, it's mostly harmless :D
willowscat1 2 years ago 3
It almost looks like he's about to cry.
lizzy171002 2 years ago 6
OMG so true!
Wapeci 2 years ago
Pouting flouncing John is just a drop of proof in the sea of slash that is this show.
John knowing Rodney's password in Quarantine, all their scenes in Miller's crossing, The Defiant One, etc.
My slash goggles are permanently attached.
WinslettSam 2 years ago 29
Oh, same here. Now if only Rodney could stop deluding himself that he's heterosexual, everything would be perfect. ;)
gaffsie 2 years ago 11
@gaffsie That's is the truth!!! they were so many opportunities with John and he missed them all ; -)
perfectpillion 8 months ago
@gaffsie Flounce? Care to explain wise one to those who are less educated?
RosemaryWeir 7 months ago
@RosemaryWeir In this case, 'flounce' means leaving in a huff.
gaffsie 7 months ago
Depends on how you view it, I never really thought about it when I saw the whole show.
Usul573 2 years ago
I kept asking myself that question on how he knew what Rodney's password was. I love their scenes together. Reminds me a lot of Daniel Jackson and Jack O'Neill, and Jim Ellison and Blair Sandburg.
babe684 2 years ago 2
Ok. Sorry. I just don't see it.
rochllejg 3 years ago
just to add to it all, the sad music at the end.
i'm not a McShep fan at all but even i have to admit, this is pretty good evidence for McShep being reality :P
SchoolSarge 3 years ago 16
It's little moments like this that makes being a slasher all worth it. :P It's just a shame that the season 5 subtext suggests that it's onesided. John deserves better.
gaffsie 3 years ago
I love how John flounces out of Rodney's room. Rodney looks so guilty!
Poor John!
gillianinoz 3 years ago
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Heres my theory...Rodney was in love with Elizabeth and now shes gone and Rodneys getting over her and John still loves her so is mad at Rodney for getting over her so soon! Okay thats a load of rubbish...it would make a better storyline though...
Holzbbz64 3 years ago
That's a better storyline than John being secretly in love with Rodney? You're kidding. Nothing beats that. Well, other than the obvious. ;)
vanecaptures 3 years ago 5
Haha that is a good storyline ;) The secret relationship of John+Rodney? Hah i can see that too!
Holzbbz64 3 years ago
I don't think John was jealous at all! He was just wondering why Rodney would do something like that on his day off...he didn't come off as jealous...
Yanks4Life23519 3 years ago
I guess what they officially went for was John being jealous that his BFF is spending time with a girl rather than him, but in this particular scene I really can't see how you can interpret as anything *but* jealousy with him walking out without another word
vanyadolly 3 years ago 8
Is there any way to interpret this except for John being jealous and hating Jennifer's guts? 'Cause I'm not seeing it.
RotHHF 3 years ago 10
I showed this clip to a non-fandom friend of mine (she isn't even a slasher) and even she went with the 'the guy in black is wildly jealous' explanation. :D
gaffsie 3 years ago
You see what you want to see. :)
sandragojani 3 years ago
Yes, yes I do. What's your point?
RotHHF 3 years ago
Since Joe Flanigan is a McShepper? Not really. ^^
DragonLady392 3 years ago 9
Waitwaitwait. When did he say this? Do you have a link or something? Because I'd LOVE to read/see that. :D
StargateFan8379 3 years ago
He said that while his relationship with David Hewlett was completely platonic "John's relationship with Rodney might not be." The vid pops up every now and then here before it gets taken down.
DragonLady392 3 years ago 11
Do you happen to remember what the video was called?
I love that even the actors see the connection between those two characters. :D
StargateFan8379 3 years ago 3
I don't remember the con's name, I'm afraid. I found it under "JoeF McShep" of all things.
DragonLady392 3 years ago
I'll be on the lookout. Thanks!
StargateFan8379 3 years ago
Aah so canon *tear in eye while she's in her happy place*
jeecmon 3 years ago 6
Ah, I just love how it's totally canon that John's in love with Rodney~
alexiaheart 3 years ago 45
John Sheppard you soooo just it ur lip when u checked out rodney! i saw it!
<3
LaurieLover89 3 years ago 5
come on boys stop joking yourselves!
just jump eachother...(and let me watch=])
i love mcshep! why must the writers toy with our slashy emotions!?!?
<3
LaurieLover89 3 years ago 11
Oh /John/. No one really believes you're straight.
MirrorMasque 3 years ago 14
Except for the producers, but they're clearly deluded. ;)
gaffsie 3 years ago
You're right lol
yeon122 3 years ago 2
*giggles* wow, yeah we really buy the whole Rodeny is totally straight now don't we. It really helped to have a pouty/sulky John convince us!
MistressTitania 3 years ago 7
'Flannie,' you are SO playing this our way! \o/
Seriously, I really don't see how this can be interpreted any other way, even from the *writers'* perspective. This is a bone thrown to us, and we loves it, precious.
Rodney looks so GUILTY at the end! Wheeee.
darsynia 3 years ago 16
@darsynia Well, I'm not a slash fan so maybe that is way I can interpret that differently. But another interpretation would be that John knows what is going on and just wants to hear rodney admitting it, like best friends. And rodney's look could be that he just realized that John didn't buy that very unlikley explanation for Rodney goning to taht mission on a free day.
But i have to admit that the music at the end is kinda pointing in a different direction.
katschi14 1 year ago
@darsynia Not just JF playing it to our favor...There are times when David Hewlett seems to play it our way too....Example: Season five, "The Shrine." God I love that episode, Rodney says he "Loves" Keller, but then he's running screaming for John's room in the middle of the night? Awesome.
SetFireGirl 1 year ago
jflans is love. i just, i can't even. its just RIDICULOUS the amount of GLEE i have for him.
oh, jflans. never change!
callmecountess 3 years ago 7
DUDE! i'm sorry but WHAT?!
i still have 14 minutes until it downloads, so maybe the next scene is going to eraser the fact that bit WAS SO OBVIOULSY JEALOUS JOHN AND EMBARRASSED RODNEY!
do the directors not have eyes? it was clearly written to make us buy the rodney/keller thing but FAILED UTTERLY since joe and david are clearly pandering to us tinhats. I LOVE IT, OBVS, but wow, i'm gonna have to get someone else to watch it and see what they think.
callmecountess 3 years ago 6
One of many reasons I love JFlan with a vengeance is that he's really playing up the McShep angle. David helps too, but he's all too often thwarted by the het-anvils the script keeps dropping on us.
gaffsie 3 years ago
Not to mention that these two just work against eachother and off each other in a way that (while I love her) David and Jewel just never will. Stick her back with Ronon, because I just can't take the "romance" scenes between she and Rodney seriously.
amythrace821 3 years ago 13