1925 HMV Model 460 "Lumiere" Gramophone playing "Just a Blue Eyed Blonde"

[PanRzehak]

is this an original lp :o

i would offer my life to get owner of graophone and various lp_s damn

[rweerakkody4565]

Isn't the reading-head too heavy for the record? Wont its weight slowly erase or blunt the recording?

[MrKEGreene]

Just curious, is the pleated diaphragm and support arm heavy? Or is there a system to bear weight so the record doesn't take the whole weight of the sound reproduction assembly? Visually, it looks heavy. Just wondering how this machine would treat a record? Better, worse, same as a Victor Orthophonic? Pity there aren't more of them, it sounds and looks fantastic!

[gramophoneworld]

Sir, It is fantastic I like it  I have a good collection of Gramophone and record player am also a Mechanic

[FoxCleaning]

All the lead up is agitating & not necessary. Great recordings though!

[alltheway62]

try fibre needles, you can adjust the weight in such a way the needle will play many many records without losing sound quality!

[mjanesthomasb]

The Radio gram version of this machine was owned by J P Getty Jnr, t he radio part of the machine was a crystal set, with a moving iron high impedance ear piece as the head phones of the day used, as that's all the crystal sets could power.

[mjanesthomasb]

The needle was placed on either the record or the ear piece to amplify the motions of such Unfortunately the lumiere pleated diaphragm was so effective an amplifier the vibrations given off by it knocked the cats whisker off the position it had on the Germanium crystal meaning the radio could never stay in tune!

[alltheway62]

the weight of the needle can be adjusted.  A well- cut fibre needle will last a long time on these gramophones !!!

[Moooperator]

Love the gold plating on this model!!!

[gramophoneshane]

Beautiful 460!

[TuxedoRonny]

Wow! So loud, you wouldn't think! How much does the reproducer weigh? It doesn't look like it should weigh as much as a pot metal one + tone arm, if so it must be easier on the records! But of course looks can be deceiving, still I wish I had one!

[funkyladybean]

Wish I knew someone who could lend me a working one, either new or old for my Victorian picnic on May 22 2010. Can't really afford a good one but don't want to put money into one that is junk and will ruin my 78's or worse yet- not work at all and also be non-returnable.

[funkyladybean]

Wish I knew someone who could lend me a working one, either new or old for my Victorian picnic on May 22 2010. Can't really afford a good one but don't want to put money into one that is junk and will ruin my 78's or worse yet- not work at all and also be non-returnable.

[78rpmblog]

Looks and sounds great - must be heavy on the records though?

[gregoryagogo]

Super-Neeto! Sounds almost better then the other style!

[Idelia412]

I looked for one of these machines back in 1983 while stationed in Great Britian but never found one! I did find the other machine made only in Great Britian a EMG Handmade Gramophone that I brought back to the state. Nice Post!

[radioianj]

Gerry Wells owns a radiogram version of this phonograph--it has an opening front panel and a crystal set inlaid into it-you put the Lumiere speaker onto a fitting on the top panel to hear radio-it came from EMI at Hayes, Middlesex. Its quite possibly the only radiogram version in the World.

[VTMCompany]

this machine is certainly a beauty...just look at that gold plating everywhere!

[1926VictorCredenza]

I've always wanted to see one of these puppies in action! Super... just super!

[buzzbaybear]

What an amazing gramophone. I never heard of such a reproducing system before. As wizzfoot said- very ingenious and the precursor to the cone speaker. One wonders why the radio industry stuck with horn loud speakers so long. Imagine this machine with a paper cone diaphragm. eee- it might have delayed electronic amplifiers by decades- lol

[jackpaynefan]

What a beautiful gramophone. It looks in pristine condition. Great choice of record too. One of the few Debroy Somers I'm still seeking. Perhaps one day I may add one to my collection & the record too! Absolutely wonderful demonstration. Thank you.

[85scampi]

So thats what the back of the diaphragm looks like!!.

[wizzfoot]

thanks for posting, that is one mint machine, and diaphragm is ingenius and precursor to paper speaker surely. how does vibration from needle transmit (i couldn't see where main tone arm went to center of device)? love the sound, much nicer then a horn for sure

[spannerworks1]

Hi

This must be a rare machine as you say for HMV as I have seen one before.

In mint condition

Richard